BB28 Drew Deep Dive Part 2

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[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_17] Hey, Rob here. You're listening to part two of Taran Armstrong's deep dive with Drew Campbell. If you missed part one, it is in our Big Brother podcast feed at weknowbigbrother.com. The full six-hour interview is posted as one video on our YouTube channel as well. Enjoy part two of Taryn with Drew Campbell.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_08] Lala wins the wall. Lala wins the wall. Crazy. Honestly, legendary. We really thought this was going to be Kamu. Yeah. Because the feeds went down before the ending was shown. Yeah. Did you like the final two?

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Yeah, I wanted that one so bad.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. For a while, you were a top pick for winner. But, yeah.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02] That's what it is. Probably would. Probably would. Yeah.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_08] Um, but Lala wins this and... And Kalshi goes crazy. Someone retires. It's wild. Yeah. Um, so, uh, Lala's target is Devon's.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_08] She wants Devon's out. But Devon's has their alliance with Taylor primaries. Devon says, hey, Taylor, like anything you can do to back me up with Lala? Like, help me out.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_08] She says, I will. So Lala tells Taylor, Devon's is my target. I want him gone. Uh, she still holds a grudge about the Rome thing. She thinks that he's the biggest threat in the game. Yeah. Taylor says, well, he did ask me to put in a good word for him. And also, he's almost definitely got a power.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_08] So if we try to target him, it'll backfire. Jason said that we needed to wait to target Devon's until like after the blockbuster is over, basically. Yeah. Um, and so.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_03] OP power, man.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_08] Taylor talks Lala out of nominating Devon's, which to her credit would have backfired.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_08] Would have likely led to Taylor going on the block on Lala's HOH. True. If Devon's had been nominated to use the diamond power of you don't know itself.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_03] Mm-hmm.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_08] Um.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_03] And then you think he would have put Taylor?

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_08] That was the assumption, right? Yeah. Because if, if the, if the idea is that like Devon's goes up on the block, um, potentially against like, you know, it wouldn't have been D likely, but like, um, you know, at this point. Probably I was thinking it would be like me, Barrett, Devon's like in a world. Well, the thing is that like, depending on who else is on the block, you don't necessarily want to put up a competitor.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_08] You want to like, if, if there was somebody else in the block like D or Angela, though they weren't on the block, um, that you wanted to protect, then you might not want to put a competitor in.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02] That makes sense.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_08] Or, or just like, Hey, if Lala is going to target me, that means Taylor has betrayed me. Um, like I can use this to put up Taylor on Lala's age.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_03] Like likelihood, like maybe somebody next to her wins the blockbuster. We just get rid of her.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. And Kamu is going to do a very good job of reintegrating with Devon's and D soon. So it likely wouldn't have been coming with this point. Um, in, in like, there's no real reason to put up Haley or Chuck by the time they get the shot taken at them. So like, it's really like, we don't know for sure. Yeah. But like, bottom line is it likely would have backfired. Still. I went to time was like, you got to do it. You got to try.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_08] If he's got a power, like you have to try because if you miss your shot now, he's still got the power for next time.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_08] Of course they, nobody can know fricking thing lasts for six weeks.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Like kind of wild, but you know, shout out Taylor.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_08] Um, so, okay. Devon's is off the table. Lala's target is Haley then.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_08] Um, and they'll backdoor Haley, you bear it and Kamu will be the noms. Yeah. That's the idea. That's what they'll keep Chuck off the block. Um, and Taylor tells a lot that we need to use this week to gather information, build alliances. Like she's finally got some power. She wants to use it. Um, and so Lala tells you and Barrett and Kamu all you're going to be pawns. Yeah. Kamu tries to fight. It doesn't work. You two try to fight. It doesn't work. You two go back. Doesn't work again. Yeah. I was just trying to get him off.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_08] Kamu goes back and it works. And this is why he talks to Yash. Uh, and they both agree. They were boats to keep lyric.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_05] Yes.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_08] They finally can realize that they still don't trust Chuck. They think Chuck has screwed them. Don't trust Chuck. Um, and so, uh, and listen, it's Chuck time.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_03] Oh, I've been dying to hear that. I keep hearing people keep saying that like it's Chuck time and I love it. It's Chuck time. It's Chuck time might be the best quote of the whole season.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_08] Uh, it's Chuck time. Well, listen, I can tell you, I did the soundbite tournament. I do a soundbite tournament every season. Uh, and top two were. It's Chuck time. It's Chuck time. And.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_03] Yash. Barrett. Drew.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_08] Dude, I can't believe. I can't believe people like that so much. Yash, Barrett, Drew won the soundbite tournament.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_06] Let's go baby.

[00:06:30] Woo.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_08] Um.

[00:06:34] Woo.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_06] The kid's still here. Dude. Yeah. Hell yeah. No way. Woo. The kid's still here.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_08] It's Chuck time. It's Chuck time. It was not Chuck's time this week though. It was bad news. Um, I have, I have a lot of other good, uh, Chuck, uh, quotes from this week.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_16] It's been particularly, I am going to cause world war, big brother.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_03] Truly.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_16] Everyone in this house must pay for their sins.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_03] Dude. Chuck is like the funniest person ever. Like he was like, ah, he was so funny. We all had Chuck isms and like Chuck stories and like gone too soon. And honestly, like, I don't think he was as big as a big of a threat as we thought he was. He should not have left this week.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_08] I don't think he should have. It's wild that he did.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. It made no sense, but it's Chuck time.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_08] It's Chuck time. Um, so Yash and Kamu bond. Uh, this is when they really start to lock in. They talk about Chuck. Uh, Kamu says, I go home if I'm on the block, which is true. Right? He's a goner. Uh, and I, I was, I predicted it too. The previous week I was like, Kamu's stock is falling next week. He's going to be on the block and he's going to go home if he stays on the block.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. And I was like, you're like, I'm calling it.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_08] I was like, Oh, I'm, I'm so good. He's about to go on the block. He's about to be in trouble. And he realizes that he's like, I'm in, I'm in deep trouble. So Taylor comes along and the, both of them, the action Kamu, uh, they pull her and they say, and Kamu says, listen, Taylor, the game just reset for me. Like my allies just blindsided me. I have no loyalties to anybody anymore. I'm a free agent. If you put me on the block, the people that just blindsided me, they will vote me out. You will not get your target out.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_08] Um, but now I'm freed up to work with you guys because I don't have anybody else. Uh, and Taylor is convinced she, she's always had a good relationship with Kamu.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_03] Oh yeah. Uh, I think that's a really good move on Kamu's part. Cause I, cause I don't think he's lying. He's completely true. It's like, he was not going to work with the icons or me or Barry. I don't think either. Um, so like, I gotta, like he crushed it and then he stayed off the block and then like better to be lucky than good. Like I got off too. Like I, I was.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_08] So, so Taylor convinces Lala. She says, Kamu can't go up anymore. And Kamu comes in and talks to, uh, talks to Lala. Um, and she's like, well, if I don't put you up, I need to put somebody else up. Um, and Kamu is like, well, listen, I don't trust Chuck or Hayley anymore. Put them both up.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_08] Put them both up. Uh, and then as a replacement, go for a heavy hitter.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_02] Oh really?

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_08] He tries to get her to go for an icon. She's not down.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_08] Um, but, uh, but he, he convinces her not only take himself off the block, but to get both Kamu or sorry, both Chuck and Hayley on the block, which then pulls you off the block.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_08] Unbeknownst to you.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. The best I've never been blindsided in a good way. Yeah. I mean, like, I was like, this is fantastic. I like fully, and I asked for spot three. So I was like waiting. I was like, all right, well at least put me in spot three. Cause like I haven't, I haven't had that spot yet. Mm-hmm . And then I see, I think it was Chuck and I was like, that'll leave that to me. Yeah. So shout out Kamu. I mean, it's interesting. Like, I don't know why she kept Barrett up there because what? Like no one wanted to vote Barrett out.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_08] They felt better about you than Barrett at this point. You remember your conversation with Taylor. Oh, okay. That's what saved me. Yeah. Like they felt better and they felt like Barrett was more with the icons at that point.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_03] I think they were probably right.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_08] Um, and they were like, and Barrett was dangerous. Because he was getting a second place in competitions and nobody's going to go home sitting next to him on the block. So they would just wanted him up as a pawn to win the blockbuster and to have somebody go home next to it. Um, you, whereas you, if you stayed on the block, you might go home. People might vote me out. Yeah.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03] That makes perfect sense.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_08] Um, so you get blindsided by not going on the block, which is my favorite ways to be blindsided.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_03] Dude, truly one of my favorite ways. I was in, in my big brother, dad's tie sitting there all excited to see my face. I'm like, ah, here we go again. Back to back weeks.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_08] Uh, to be fair, you were still the plan for the replacement nominee because they did not

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_03] want to. Yeah. I mean, she hugged me immediately and was like, Hey, I might need you for the arena.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_03] I was like, Oh, and then when Kamu wanted the veto, I was like, dude, he'd be crazy not to use it. And then he didn't use it. Yeah. Do you think he should have?

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_08] That was a big topic of conversation. Um, and there, there were arguments back and forth. I'm mostly in the camp of like, you should probably use it, but Haley, but by then he had been, I mean, we'll get there, but like he had been developing like a full on alliance with Lala and Taylor and Josh.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_03] So it was like, so he couldn't, he can't play.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Right. Kind of had to pick.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. I felt like, man, he should have used it on Haley. Cause I feel like Haley couldn't have blindsided him. She was the HOH. Like that should be like the one person he knows. Like, well, you have to understand.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_08] So I think, I think it'll make a little more sense to you when we get further down.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_03] Okay.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_08] Um, so first D had finally admits to Devon's chance of the power. Um, and by now the initial reaction to D is, this is useless. But by now I've realized, wait, this is not just a bribe. It's a contract. And if you can get somebody to sign a contract and it's enforced by big brother, this could be very powerful.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_08] Um, she hasn't realized that yet. She's still, she's still, she's still, just realize she's, she thinks it's useful. Uh, D eventually is the one that figures it out. Um, I know, I know everyone thought it was Devon's.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. No, I, D is like such a sleeper. Like everyone, like Devon's such a big, like target, like the face. But like, I think D was like, D had major pull the whole game.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_08] D the way that I saw it was that like D was the sort of, um, more active social strategic sort of maneuver. Like as an individual, she had a lot more power than Devon's did. Yeah. Devon's was better at keeping like a steady structure in place. Yeah. Um, but then still had these like big powerful moves mostly because he had, you know, HOH and then down to power Vito.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_08] But like, um, they were very interesting to watch as a duo cause D was making all kinds of like sloppy mistakes. Like she's the one that wanted to blindside red corner. Like those are kinds of the kinds of mistakes that Devon's wasn't making.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_08] But Devon's was making mistakes like volunteering for the block or like, you know, uh, not having as much sway with certain things, but, uh, they compliment each other very well. Um, Angela admits her vote to Haley, which is a whole blow up.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_03] Oh yeah. So good. That's the Eve, the Eve costumes are out. Yeah. They have to blow up in the gym.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_08] Um, this is when, you know, Mallory is definitely like, uh, a fan favorite, um, because she's Mallory, but also because she's anti icon.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_05] Yes.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_08] Um, this, so D makes a play to win Kamu back over. Uh, they're up in the gym and, um, they're like, what went wrong with this? Uh, and basically D's tactic here is it was never you. It was Haley. Haley's fault that we blindsided you. You were too close to Haley. We were too worried. And he was like, I always told you guys, I wasn't even glad close to Haley. She was like, I should have realized I feel so stupid.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_08] My heart is racing right behind my body.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_05] Um, he's so goaded.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_08] And so she uses this tactic, blames it on. This is a very common tactic in big brother to blame it on somebody that is either a victor or like, or is just like a house pariah. Uh, this tactic will be used against you, uh, via Yash, uh, and Taylor in the future.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02] Perfect.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_08] Um, but, uh, it works very well. And in this conversation, she tells him about her power as like a show of good faith. Like, Hey, I'm really like, let's lock back in, you know, and do this. And so Kamu is one back over by D. Uh, he blames Haley for ruining his game. And, uh, and he wants to like reinstate the Wolfpack fully. Like, like, okay. Yeah.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_08] Yash D Devin's like, let's, let's get back together. What all of what I had plus Taylor and Lala now.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_08] And I'm ditching Haley and, and Chuck. That's his new path for.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03] That's why he's like, no veto use.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_08] So that's why when he wins the veto, he doesn't want to use it because using it would upset the icons. It would upset Taylor and Lala. Um, and it would upset Yash who doesn't want to use. Yeah. All of them want Haley on the block still.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_08] Um, so he would be choosing Haley and Chuck over everyone else. And then he'd be.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_03] See, that's what it made sense to me too, is like, he's, he's, it felt like he completely defected to the other side and like they had him. And I'm, and I, part of me was like, this guy's crazy for not using it on Haley. But at the same time, I know I already said this earlier. I was like, I can't believe he didn't use it. But also like now, like remembering like in the moment, like, yeah, I was, I was, it was like, I was like 90% sure he wasn't going to use it, but there's always 10% like he does because you don't know what he's scheming.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_08] Well, and it's again, it's like, it is a tough position if you look at it from that perspective, but there is another argument, which is like, you don't have to accept the terms given to you. Right. Just because it's ostensibly a choice between Haley and Chuck or the rest of the house doesn't mean it has to be. Yeah. Because if you can convince the rest of the house that it's okay for you to use the veto, then you can kind of get everything.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_03] Oh yeah. Like Haley's a big friend.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_08] Like if you talk to Lala and Taylor and Yash and you get them on board with like, you know, do we want Chuck to leave? Maybe I can take Chuck off the floor.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_03] Kind of like what he did during Yash's where he was trying to bring Haley in.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_08] Exactly. Yeah. Like he could have done it that way. Right. And that was my argument. That was like, maybe you don't have to accept that situation. Maybe you can talk to Yash and Lala and Taylor and get them on board with you using this because they might actually be okay with it. Uh, and they might've been okay with it. The problem was that D had gotten back in with him. And so he was using his efforts to try to pitch them on D and Devin's and they were getting worried about his connection to them. They were like, Kong was getting back with the icons. Like this is not good. Yeah.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_08] So he didn't have enough sway to do that. So he doesn't use the veto. Yeah. Um, but of course, his target is growing, um, with FAP, uh, largely, uh, due to the fact that it's obvious, but also you are pushing Kong was a target at this point.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_03] Oh yeah. Um, it's just like, it's just like, he was like the biggest, it felt like he was a huge threat, like since the start of this game. And like when he started at like playing like hard, you're like, oh, this dude's got pulled.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_08] Uh, and he makes a final two of the Ash. Yeah. And I'm like, if they are not stopped soon, they are going to run the table. I fully believe that you seemed to see that. I tried to convince Mallory and Melody and they, they were like, no, I don't know.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03] Uh, well not that week.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_08] And I mean, but like, think about it. Yash wins a competition basically every week until his eviction.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_08] If Kamu was also there that whole time.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_03] Dude, it's trade off.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. I mean, almost impossible to take either one of them.

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[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_08] Josh and Taylor, they're discussing solidifying with Kamu and Lala. There is eventually an alliance that they think was called the Coven. There's some kind of alliance that comes together with the four of them roughly. It gets interrupted by the diamond power veto eventually. But they don't like that the icons want Kamu back over. They're very anti-icon. And at this point, there's a lot of talk about Taylor needing to be targeted.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_08] That, you know, D is really skeptical of Taylor. She's running Lala's HOH. She's, you know, she's too powerful. She's too smart in the game. It's very funny because eventually the perception shifts. And this is roughly when like it starts to become like more and more repeated. Taylor keeps getting compared to like every other black woman that has played big brother. She's compared to Chelsea.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_08] She's compared to to Daniel Reyes. She's compared to, oh, geez, who is the third person to Ashley. And and I had an issue with this. A lot of other people had an issue with this. I. This is something that you did a few times.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_03] I definitely. Yeah. I think compared her to those players.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_08] I do.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_03] Have you like, have you heard this criticism? I have. Yeah. It like bummed me out the way like it was perceived. I could totally see like how that could be taken. And like, that's like a weird thing. And I'm like, I spoke to. I tried to speak to Taylor. I think she's like off the grid right now. She's enjoying like being out of the house. But we did talk like right after the game. And I was like, hey, like if I. If I said things that maybe like weren't cool, like I'm sorry, that was not my intention.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_03] And she was like, yeah, it's like we're cool. And I love her so much. I always wanted to like compliment her game.

[00:21:50] Mm hmm.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_03] But I think I could have done it in a different way.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_08] Right? Yeah. I mean, I think it's the fact that like, if you look at the people. The only players. They were all. And and the thing too is like they're all wildly different.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_08] Exactly. Who played the game in wildly different ways.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_08] And so it's like, it's like there's really like there's no other like way we can. Yeah.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_03] You can't compare it to like anybody else. Yeah. So it definitely was something I was like, oh, like, like learning about it after the fact and like, oh, that's definitely something I should like, like I learned from.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. 100%. It wasn't just you. I'm obviously I'm talking to you, but like, well, it was that this was a house culture in many ways. Um, and and like the ways that like people would be up in the H.O.A. trim being like we want to make her time here miserable. Yeah. And again, like comparing her names calling her lazy for being in the pot all the time. Um, I think in particular as well, like there's this notion, uh, that she would be like aggressive

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_08] if, if given, uh, if like, you know, if something didn't go her way and that she might need like, uh, that, you know, people might need bodyguards to defend against Taylor. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, and that she, uh, might like yell at them. Um, but like, you know, like where is, where is this coming from? Kind of, uh, yeah.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_03] Cause she's like super mellow. Yeah. So I'm, I don't know why everyone kind of had that notion. Um, I definitely didn't help. So like, like I, I did apologize to, uh, to Taylor and I like want to talk to her again, obviously. Cause I think like it was undeserved.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Is that cause I know your, your friend had talked to Sharon as well that like he wanted to like have some conversations with you. Did those, have you had those? Yeah.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. He like, let me, he like showed me all the stuff and he was like, listen, dude, like, I know you're not this, but you should look at this because it is something you should like look into and learn from. And it was interesting to a teacher reached out for me, uh, in college who like was like, that's her specialty. And like, she sent me, um, some stuff too. So it's like some fun stuff I get to learn and grow from, you know what I mean? I, I, I don't like the way I did say stuff.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_03] So I was like, Oh, well that's cool. Like it's the, the good thing about being recorded 24 seven is like, you've learned stuff about you. Right. Like, so that's a good learning thing. Like that's something I'm taking away from this whole experience.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_08] You feel like you, you feel like committed to wanting to sort of like learn where those things come from.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_03] And yeah, I was like, exactly. And I felt like if I was contributing to like making the environment, not welcoming, I was like, well, that's something I don't like. Like I tried my best to like have everybody feel welcome no matter like where they're coming from. But if that aspect of it wasn't like completely welcoming, like it bummed me out. Cause like that, I was like, damn, I really love them. And like, if they felt like excluded, I'm like, well, I'm a dick. Yes. If you're not the solution, you're the problem.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_03] And I wish I could have been a solution in the house. And I, yeah.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. I mean, I agree. I think it would have been nice to see.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_03] I'm so willing to learn. I actually spoke to Lala. Cause I also felt like that was like a thing that people were like, Oh, Drew and Lala had like some sort of thing. And I like called her yesterday and I was like, Hey, listen, we just like sorted it. I'm not going to like post about it. And like, I want it to be between like us because I feel like those are the relationships that like, I want to be cool with her and I want her to feel cool with me. And we had a really good conversation and I'm actually going to New York on Friday. And I think I'll see her.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_03] So I'm like excited to see her. Yeah. But yeah, not my intent at all. And it sucks that it was perceived that way. And if they did, and I think they did feel like sometimes they were targeted, like, I'm sorry, it wasn't the solution. I just added to it.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. I mean, I think it's, it's like, I think the thing about it is that like, regardless of intent or perception. And I think it's sort of like, you know, even, even if I think there were aspects of it that they, you know, them as individuals didn't either clock or feel. Um, and given what I've seen from, from Taylor does seem like she certainly felt some of it. Uh, there, I think there are still people sort of who watched it that felt uncomfortable. Oh yeah.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_08] Who like felt like this is the kind of environment that I have to experience in my own life. And, uh, it sucks to see that sort of replicated in the big brother.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_03] Oh yeah. I completely agree. Like from an outside lens, like watching what I did, maybe other people did. I'm like, Oh wow. Like that is like, we are not good. That is not good. And that is not okay. So like I said, like, I'm going to be more aware of it. And like I said, like, I want to talk to Taylor still again, even though we did talk, I just like want to reiterate the fact that like, I am sorry.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_03] And I guess everyone else who watched, like, I'm sorry for like, I like on behalf of everybody else, something on the cast, like if we did and we did make you feel a certain way because of the way we treated them, like that wasn't okay. And I, I think we'll learn from it. All right. And get better. Yes. Yeah. I think that's, that's like learning from it, but also getting better.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_08] That would certainly be the hope.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Right. Not to learn and be like, okay, we're gonna, you know what I mean? Like you want to like be a better person and be more inclusive.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. And I mean, like, you know, I've had conversations with people coming off the show before. Uh, and you know, I think the thing is that a lot of people come in to these shows and they have certain unconscious biases a lot of the time, uh, which is very common. We all have them. Um, we all participate in a society that is structured a certain way.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_08] Uh, and I think the, for me at least, and I'm certainly not the arbiter of this by any means. Uh, but for me, I do look for people who are open to like learning about it and having conversations and like, um, and, and like genuinely looking to, to change the way that they perceive things

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_08] and, and process things, uh, in a way that is not just kind of just like, like, oh, well, like, uh, like that's, it sucks that, that, you know, this happened, but hopefully you'll forgive me and we can.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. It's not even like, it's like, dude, you have to like, yeah. Like, that's why I'm so glad that it's recorded. So you can actually see yourself doing it and you're like, oh, okay. Like that's not okay. And it's, I mean, I was raised like to be super inclusive to everybody. So like when I came out of the house and that was one of the things it was like, that really bummed me out. Cause I was like, oh, like I thought I was more inclusive towards everybody. But the fact that there was a specific group of people that maybe I wasn't and I'm like, oh, that sucks.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_03] Like I'm not like, that's something I don't want to do. It's having all this stuff recorded and like learning from yourself and also like Lala and Taylor, like so nice and so open. And they, they have been like, Hey, like we forgive you, but here's how it was, how we felt. And it's like, oh, I'm so glad that they're also open to like teach me. And I think they're at the end of the day, I love them both a lot.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_03] And it sucks that, that they did feel like that now.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. All right. Well, back to Lala's HOH.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03] Back to Lala's HOH, Walla.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_08] So Taylor and Yash start pitching some anti icon rhetoric. They are, they, you know, despite the fact that they sort of missed their shot here. They're trying to see if like other people might get on board specifically Melody and Mallory, who might be people who are sympathetic to it. And, and they are Melody and Mallory. They're kind of like, yeah, we need to take out the icons. Yeah, of course.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_08] But when they talk to you about this, you're like, Hey guys, they're trying to get my, my most loyal allies out. So this, of course, backfires on you. Of course. Right. Because you're the one bringing the information to them. They are now suspicious of you again. That this is not good. That you are trying to hide the fact that you are working with them against the icons.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_08] So, so Devins is now back to this idea of like, okay, we, like breaking the four of them up needs to be the priority. Like they're too close. We'll get out, you know, Haley or whatever this week, but, and we were locked in with Kamu now. We've got Yash, like they're the next target for sure. But D and Angela, they disagree. They're still anti Taylor. They're on the Taylor train. They want Taylor gone next.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_08] So Devins is like, okay, how about this? I'm just going to flat out ask them like point blank what the, what the Alliance name is. I'm just going to ask them, see if they crack and give it to me. Uh, and they're like, okay, that sounds fun. Uh, so he goes and he, uh, he sits down with two of you.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_03] He's like, so what's the Alliance name? And then Barry just goes, fap. And I was like, oh, I was like, why? And then I later did that to him for like the Wolf Pack. I think he told me about that. Like, uh, Devins. I was like, so what's your is called?

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_07] Right. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_03] I remember that. It was like, uh, we're just like clocking each other, but, uh, don't think, I think they gave him a lot of ammo by giving him the damn name. Right. That is about to go nuclear. It's like, he kept saying, I'm going to go nuclear.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_08] Uh, literally my next line, this gives Devins more ammo. Uh, is that?

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah, exactly.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_08] Yep. He goes to, he goes back to D and Angeli. He's like, they have an Alliance and it's called FAP. Uh, and of course you to tell D as well. Yeah. Once Devins knows. Um, and, uh, and this gives him more credibility. He managed to convince D okay, leave Taylor alone for now. Next target has to be, this is when he says Mallory or drew. Yeah. Uh, one of the two of them, uh, with, with FAP.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_08] Um, so then the big conversation up in the HOH room happens, uh, with Lala and. Oh, we're like, you're doing grinding or slump. I call this the summit. There's like a summit meeting called.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah, dude. It was crazy. It's like, I remember me and Barrett were like, everyone's in there. Like, should we go in? And then we're like, yeah, let's just go in and check it out. Uh, and it's like, things were going down.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_08] Yes. Uh, Lala's conducting her anti icon speeches, you know, uh, trying to get you guys on board. Taylor's like, I don't want to be here. I don't want to be, this is going to get ratted out. Yeah. She goes to the shower.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_08] Um, she was in the shower. Yep. And I can confirm. Uh, and of course you do both. You mean, you talked about it first. You're like, should we rat this out? And then you both kind of agreed. Yeah, we should.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_08] Um, and in this case, yes, you should have.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_03] That was, that was finally the one time we, we ratted people out. It was a good thing.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_08] Uh, Yash didn't rat the whole thing out to Devon's, but he did kind of imply to Devon's that this happened, uh, and put more of the blame on you guys. Uh, so the fact that you had already talked about it was a little bit of a saving grace. Um, and really what this does though, is that it, it, uh, D and Angela are like, okay, well now we have info on both sides. So whoever wins, like, yeah, we could target Fab or we could target Taylor and Lala.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. I don't know. Either way. And they ended up, uh, oh, then Yash went next one.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Yeah. Um, so then there's this whole thing. Angela and D want to flip the vote to take out shop and keep Haley, which makes sense for them. Cause they've got a better relationship with Haley. Uh, what doesn't make sense is to try to do another blind side.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. They just love to do it. I think they were just like, this is going to be so fun. The whole house is going to be surprised. Um, but it wasn't a blind side, right? I mean, it was a, it was a nine to one.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_08] I thought it was while Haley ends up winning the.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_03] Oh, oh, if Barrett, if Barrett won it. Yeah. Okay.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_08] Haley over Chuck. Yes. Um, so, uh, there's talk about including Yash in the primaries. Um, there's still this like mistaken belief that Devins and D are not a package deal. This is again, what Yash will learn eventually, but, um, but Yash and Kamu make the Bermuda triangle with Devins at this point. Um, so like, that was the one I learned about. There's a lot of, there's a lot of like intermingling.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. This group, the core should have been, um, Lala Taylor, Yash Kamu with, they should have been able to pull in Haley.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_08] So there's a whole situation where D questions. Cause when you talked about the summit, you also said that Mallory might put D up as a renom.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_08] Which D did not like. Um, and so this is again, Oh yeah, here we go. That's they are still targeting us. Yeah. We knew it. Um, so D questioned Mallory about it, who then went to Barrett and was like, drew routed me out. And then Barrett went to you and said, it seems like D went to Mallory and then you went to Mallory and tried to clear it up. Yeah. Then like, that's not what I said. And then you went to D and you're like, why'd you air my shit, man?

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah, exactly. Because that's, that's what me and D do to each other. We just air each other out.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Um, but that doesn't really go anywhere. Uh, so Haley wins the blockbuster.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_03] That one guy screams really loud.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_08] That one guy screams. Hold on. I've got it.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_03] Apple and win.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_06] Congratulations. You have won and you are now officially off the block.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_03] And I know who that is. I later learned that it was a guy who we did a game with and he was just super like, I don't even know who he was rooting for.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_08] Well, there was this whole thing. We, we all kind of wanted Haley to stay because she was such an entertaining character at that point.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Thog.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_08] Thog.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_08] Rob did a whole song about it.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_03] Are you serious?

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. I don't have it on me.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_03] Oh my God. That's awesome. Uh, I can't believe you had that on the ready. That is like my big, dude, we were all like, dude, we had, she has a huge supporter. Um, a lot of people thought it was Chuck. That was screaming. Uh, initially. We thought Chuck, we thought we heard Chuck winning. We thought that maybe, but like, is that Chuck winning? Like, is that him celebrating? We're like, I guess Haley goes.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_08] Okay. So, um, Chuck is gone week six. Uh, there's a time. It's no longer Chuck time.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02] It's Chuck time. I love that. So good. I am like, buffoned.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_03] I am buffoned. Come on, bruh. Are these all Chuck?

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_08] No, that one's Yash.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_03] Oh yeah. That one is Yash. That was Yash.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_08] You know, uh, I remember when Angela was like doing the things with the knives and a knife slip. Yeah, dude. I got the sound bite from that.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_12] Real Hibachi is happening. The sound is perfect.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_03] Oh my gosh. Dude, we were all watching that going like, this is a bad idea. Yeah.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_08] That's so good. Uh, oh, I really like this one too.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_17] I'm just going to be mad golden after this.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_03] Is it his piss is going to be mad? That was during the veto. Uh, dude, Yash is a, he's got no shame. So I love him so much.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_08] This was another, this was another, uh, top vote get her in the tournament. This was, um, that, uh, when Kamu called, hey, uh, Angela up into the gym. Um, and then she got into a fight with Haley. Cause she was like, trust your God, trust your God. This was how Angela described that moment.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_12] I can't hear that on you because I was like, oh, well, FBBB. Oh, well, oh, well. So nobody will be able to see that. Oh, well.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_09] Oh, well. That's love.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_12] F F F B B B.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_06] How could you say something like that? That's malicious lies.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_03] That's just that one. Was that one during, I think that's the same. It was the same. Oh, it was, it was, it was. That's so good.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_08] Let's see. There's, there's only a couple more that I haven't shown you. Uh, but I don't know. I don't think we're ready for them yet. We'll get. Um, so there's that all that happens right now. The trust your God moment. It all happens in week six. Um, and then, you know, Haley does try to kind of warn you that like, Hey, just so you know, like when I was HOH,

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_03] like they were saying, and I was like, yeah, right. Yeah. Right. Haley, you put me up on the block and Tom who wanted me out. And I'm like, oh, I should have trusted by your show. Trust their guy.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_08] Uh, so it's the knockout competition. Yes. Two thousands. You, that you guys anticipated this might happen. Yeah. You tried to give them the strategy. D and Devins.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_08] Don't pick each other.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02] Mm hmm. They picked each other. Yeah.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_08] Do you know why they picked each other? Because they want it to be perceived as not working together. They fully through this off.

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_04] Oh yeah.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_08] Fully through the competition. Went to the, went to the, the storage room. They celebrated. Um,

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_06] What are they doing? What is going on? Are you stupid?

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_08] I don't know if that was exactly this moment, but, but they're like, celebrate, like, oh, we threw this to Yash.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_03] This is such a, and I was like, what? Like, why would you throw it to Yash? Why should you think you've been warned that he's coming for you? Like, what are you talking about? Dude. And like, first of all, what a clutch win from Yash. There was like four members of FAP, like at the, or three.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_09] Mm hmm.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_03] And like, he just gets them all out.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Uh, his initials of the, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the more related, Potter. The initial idea is Haley, Angela D d is the pawn. Angela is the target.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah.

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_08] Um, kamu's down, but he wants to be, uh, because, uh, two things primarily. One is that she tried to but it was a big part of the episodes um but basically like they just they were

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_08] dee oh like make people swear on the bible so yeah she claimed i think that he did swear on the bible about something or i don't remember exactly the details but the point is that like i think the general notion is that like all this work that she did to put in with kamu it was all thrown out the window again over sort of again another like attempted a flip phone that didn't even happen yeah because hayley didn't even stay on the block exactly um so blockbuster man so kamu's

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_08] trying to push the target onto dee you go up into the hoh room that night you're like bro and down

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_03] yeah hardcore bro and this i would love to know how well that worked were they down they were down

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_08] yeah i had a feeling they were down so this is uh you were asking before like what was what are some like your best moments this is definitely i think like one of your best moments in terms of like you you got them like they weren't like a hundred percent they're like truce with us but they they bought into the idea like yeah we need to keep the guys around um and you know you definitely helped

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_08] keep like barrett off the block yeah uh and keep them steered toward an outcome that uh that potentially allowed for like some room to for maneuvering right yeah um and uh and for many other like so this was good work uh should i have stuck with them no i don't think they would just trade off impossible to be that's what i thought um and they would have worked with devins before you

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_03] yeah that makes sense uh they were they were tighter with that but yeah it's i mean i mean we'll talk about week seven but i was so surprised that d was like i can't believe you let me sit on the block and i was like she's like you should have had yash put like taylor up and i was like wow like why would yash ever put taylor up when like taylor's not coming after him like that would make zero sense it's because that

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_08] was an excuse to put me up yeah right yeah we'll talk about it i can't wait um so uh when they talk to devins and d or when yash talks to devins and d they both try to pitch you to go up when uh yash is hoh okay he does devins and d both tried devins was more cautious about it yeah and he told d

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_08] later like it's not yash isn't going for it yeah drop the drew thing um every week every week they i taught every week they wanted me up uh yash tells you about d doing it he protects devins yeah yeah yeah um devin says uh if i have to use the diamond power of you don't you i will d but i really don't want to like and he says at this point i'd probably put drew up yeah i at the time i was like it seems like a

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_08] joke but like also we don't know yeah um but first uh d tries to use the bribe on yash so he doesn't have to use the diamond power of you know she tries and fails yash turns it down you probably should have

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02] taken it right i know right because it ended up getting worse nobody realized the danger of this

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_08] thing until right before d figured it out yeah uh and if yash had realized the the exact details i think easily you take this you take the 5k you get it out of the way yeah because it was only for this

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_03] hroh just that one hroh yeah it would have been easy 5k i don't know who he would have put up maybe me

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_08] or you put deficit you should have enough he trusted devins too much at that point um probably like me it probably would have just been you yeah um or actually honestly it might have been barrett he might have just that is true that he's been yeah just barrett angela haley and then angela or haley leaving was fine with yash yeah he was convinced to target d he wasn't initially targeting you because he didn't think you're supposed to threat um interesting yash's

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_03] game could have been so different i think yash like could have won this whole thing oh he was very close

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_08] we were we considered him to be the front runner all the way up until he went out yes no i think

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_03] yash played a really great game yeah and he was on vehicle oh he was a lot of stud um yeah sorry yash

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_08] i love that kid so much uh so um so part of how yash is convinced to target d is her attempted use of the bribe the conversations don't go well devins is clearly trying to protect her which sketches out both him and kamu so he finally agrees okay d should be the target um this is when yash and kamu officially make their final two uh and um and taylor at this point is trying to pull them all

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_08] together like the two of them plus lala uh she's also been working on haley oh yeah and uh and this is really where like obviously the diamond power veto messes them up but they also make a few key mistakes one of them being having hayley on the block in the first place uh it like just you can't

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_03] work with somebody for them it's like the same thing that hayley did lyric it's like well hayley didn't really want what's around but it's like you can't work with somebody put them on the block

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_08] like you're good exactly and it's like hayley was somebody they could have pulled in especially if all three icons have been on the block and if all three icons have been on the block devins has to take himself down and i believe and because this was this was the case he would have put taylor up in his place in that spot because it would give angela d a better shot it would give angela d a better shot to win so that would have been bad for taylor specifically but it would have given them a

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_03] great shot it's still taking out an icon yeah and at the end of the day even if taylor it would give d a better shot and maybe what what was that week's blockbuster uh six was that was the one that

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_08] that angela won it was the balls oh so she would have won it and then you probably would still wins uh it's taylor versus d on the block um and if you have hayley right if they have hayley then it's hayley kamu yosh uh i'm sorry la gosh isn't voting la la um melody and malady oh yeah and

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_08] i remember yeah um but well maybe we don't know that for sure but yeah uh yeah i mean that was the play right the play was was to not have hayley on the block that's what i kept saying that brought you

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[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_08] professional if symptoms persist the tailor is is worried that you have ratted out the summit because i call it the summit yeah the lala yeah uh because it's like it's been getting us right like um so she's concerned she's she thinks they can trust melody mallory she doesn't think that they can trust you yeah um and i think that's a correct observation right i think so and so she keeps pushing for this

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_08] grouping of herself kamuyash and lala the plan would be to take out d and then one of you or barrett next

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_03] okay so take out d this week and then next week me or barrett go because they still trust devins

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_08] at this point yeah um but again you're doing good work this week you are ratting kamuyash out as much as possible to the icons like hey he's coming for you he's the reason you're on the block d he wants you gone she didn't know that at all yeah she didn't believe it at first um and uh and it takes a few like it takes some conversations for her to like realize like this is really what's happening because

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_08] because kamuyash was being careful with devins about d he knew that he couldn't talk too much about d in front of devins yeah but he talked about in front of you because i was thrown out they trusted you too much um so you are very i very much credit you for like getting kamuyash on the block yeah because it could have been me in the in and getting kamuyash on the block obviously devins gets he used to power video but you very much were the i would say main contributor

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_08] toward making sure that they wanted him on the block would vote him out and then did a lot of work to make sure he was voted out yeah and also were a contributing factor to the nominations being in the right configuration for that happening not that you knew that it would happen in that way

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_03] yeah but like you prevent i was trying to give wiggle room right yeah well thanks man felt like

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_08] i did something good um so uh so this yosh wins the veto and it's it's at this point i'm like yosh can correct his mistake he could use this on hayley then and put up devins yeah or drew or whoever yeah um and it's again it's the fact and taylor actually suggests this she's like you could use the veto

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_08] um but they because they recognize that hayley might leave if they don't have your vote yeah but they think they have your vote yeah so they're like we're good we don't need to use the veto um then uh devins monologues to the cameras he says i think it's i think it's time to make the move uh and he's he's in the gym and he's on the he's on the bike and he says um he says this daddy wants

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_03] the dub yeah he wants the dough daddy wants the dough yeah okay daddy wants the dough i'm like their baby daddy wants the dub whatever daddy devins wants daddy devins gets whatever daddy devin says baby boy drew faller the kid has no spine no spine that happened after the common vote right after that yeah that makes sense yeah um but i like i just don't think like yasha's like dude you should have let me know

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_03] like that we're gonna do i just don't think that i don't think that was ever gonna happen if i told him he'd be like true especially if common one yeah you would he would have been mad for this he

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_08] was mostly he was more upset with malady and mallory yeah um or i mean he wasn't more upset with them but like in terms of they should have told him yeah um devins pushes d hard to give him the 5k yeah to do this i remember he's telling me that he really wants it yeah and she keeps saying like we should save it like we should save it um they do do a thing to try to to get around like lying about

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_08] production where she technically offers him the bribe to do it but he doesn't give her an answer so that he can if he wants to say she she offered me the bribe in order to do this so like later on they could be able to claim that that's why he did it to try to distance themselves it didn't end up happening but uh i thought it was fun yeah i like that they're smart man they're so smart survivor players d wants

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_08] to save the bribe so she does um in preparation for the move they have to gather votes this is mosh pit yes uh the best alliance in the game yes um while the mosh pit is forming angela accidentally outs the

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_03] crossovers yeah i mean devin's looking at each other like okay we've been working with barrett and drew for a long time you guys probably already know this i'm sure melody and mallory kind of already had a feeling like it wasn't like but it was just confirmation yeah i mean angelo is like

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_08] there's no way they haven't told them like she's like there's no way the boys didn't tell them already so obviously they already know yeah uh melody and mallory they do talk a lot that week especially as they're getting pressure to keep common they're like i don't know if we like did you hear what angela said like they haven't been working with them the whole time uh like they were pretty put off on it yeah um for good i mean for good reason very good reason devins gets uh devins

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_03] uses the veto diamond veto common goes on the block tries to pull it up from my ear that was like his bit that he wanted to do there he's weren't allowing it what's this ball in your ear drew oh boy yeah i genuinely thought there was a chance i could go up like instead of calm i was like uh i think there

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_08] was a chance but i think that like kamu turning on d and getting caught i just didn't know how much they believed it because they just don't believe anything i say well eventually kamu did talk to devins about like we might have to let d go and devins was like okay i see what you're doing here because he'd been talking about you um or at least he had been talking about you so it made it easier um so this is when i at this point in the game i'm like i'm pretty high on melody mallory's position

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_03] oh dude they were in the best but they were like perfectly in the middle middle then like legit i told them that i'm like you guys are in the best spot ever and they hated that i kept saying that because i was like but you guys are like no one's coming after you everyone loves them yeah and

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_08] they're the swing votes mallory wins comps they're about to take out kamu with no heat on their hands and they can then join the other side win the next hoh target the icons they're in a beautiful position they have the perfect plan to begin with which is let's just tell taylor and yash up front we can't keep kamu and hayley both sorry yeah take out kamu side with them after easy

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_08] but then they get all mixed up they keep going back and forth they start they start like on and and you're a little bit of this problem you tell them don't don't don't tell them yeah well i mean

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_03] i was trying to like right you gotta like you can't give them all the right answers like you know i already have so much heat on me all the time it's like you just like spread the spread the heat a little bit yeah but also i didn't want it going back to kamu and kamu being like oh what are you guys saying and then he and i thought comes got a great shot at winning this blockbuster like he's won stuff already and he can come back and then he would win i think he could have won week seven hoh like that

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_03] felt something that could be up his alley yeah yeah and then melody and mallory and that freedom

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_08] bear taylor and yash wear melody and mallory down they actually start considering keeping common oh yeah it's wild yeah i'm like what i mean there is an argument for it there are people that think that they should have done that i very much disagree um six weeks they're like we need to get calm about and the second he's on the block they're like i'm changing my mind it's again yeah kamu and yash would have just steamrolled oh yeah uh like yeah and and yes obviously mallory leaves the next week but

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_08] there's very specific reasons why oh yeah um i've learned one of yeah one of them being their behavior this week yeah uh which did not help them um you also didn't help them by freaking out devins running it back to devins being like yeah i had i keep having to talk them down yeah um which again that makes devin suspicious of you of course um thinking that like you are uh like double handling yeah

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_08] um which is why he's like he gets pissed he's just like i'm gonna go nuclear he got so he so here's the exact events here um so melody and mallory uh they get worn down they talk to you um taylor is like you can't rely on drew and barrett they're the icons puppets once kamu leaves they'll be locked in with the icons you need kamu to stay that kind of convinces them um they talk to you and barrett

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_08] uh and then you wrap them out to devins devins is pissed devins complains to d and barrett about it and uh barrett is like what is he talking about they're not considering keeping common uh he's he's lying he's making it up yeah um and uh drew's the one drew's the one being sketchy drew's the one who's hanging out with them being bros of course uh and uh and d's like yeah yeah i figured he's like and

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_08] you know what while we're at it up in that room with lala he is he is he did volunteer that devins

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_03] was the scariest person yeah uh like dude like i had no choice like i was like bestowed upon i know and you said that to them too but but barrett was like no no but he got there first so i like volunteered that yeah um it was like drew you would never put up devins right and i was like uh he's the scariest like and then it's like there you go there's the ammo that's all you need this is what this was my

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_08] most frustrated with barrett this is i there's like a gif of me being like what are you doing barrett uh because like why why is he actively throwing you under the bus here like what is the purpose of this and this just pisses devins off even more at both of you yeah uh and this is when he says if you if the if those girls flip you two are the ones taking i'm going nuclear yeah he gives the threat to

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_08] barrett and he later makes the same threat to you um and melody and mallory in the meantime they're getting spun over in circles they keep changing their minds they realize they can't flip without the two of you uh in in certain because we didn't we didn't think that angela would come clutch with that right when so like we need at least one of them um so uh you spend most of the night before the

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_08] eviction and the day leading up to it trying to make sure that they don't flip because devins is going to

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_03] go nuclear yeah and i don't know what they would have done i think they recognize the fact that angela won and they went with the belt i don't know what they would have done if angela didn't win

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_08] they so they they had a couple of ideas one was that they'd vote separately so one would vote to keep common one vote to evict common okay and so common would still leave they eventually landed on the um

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_03] on evicting common okay they did okay but just barely yeah it seemed like it was just up in the air it was and then when angela came down and she said i won i was like oh yeah fine thank god i was i was

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_08] glued to the feeds that night and day just being like it wasn't solved until like shortly before yeah um because you were like on the couch with mallory being like you can blame me for this yeah like

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_03] and she was giving you nothing yeah i was like listen i'd rather get blamed for this than have devins go nuclear and like just be like fap stand up please and we'd be like oh man he knows the name

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_08] and you were like barrett help me out here and then barrett like sat down and then just like left

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_03] yeah yeah barrett barrett is like he was with me and he was it wasn't and then he like really wasn't with

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_08] me this upcoming week i was really confused about where barrett was in all of this uh confused too because obviously kamu leaving was really good for him um in many ways like he was on the chopping block next i just couldn't understand why he it felt like he was at this point like jockeying for position within crossovers but then soon after but like because he felt good with with mosh pit and i think

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_08] i think if i had to guess because i haven't talked to barrett and maybe i will uh if i had to guess he felt frustrated that you were ratting up the the melian gallery yeah uh and at that point was like he's trying to ruin the mosh pit like screw him yeah like uh like me and bear are always like one week

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_03] off it was like i'm i'm crossover strong like he'll be like fap and then like next week it'd be different like fap or bust and then it'd be uh he'd be like no we're crossover this week yeah so

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_08] kamu gets voted out melody and mallory do blame the vote on you yeah uh as agreed but because it took them so long to decide they still burned everybody they still blindsided yash and taylor for and yash and taylor the whole time just tell us and they couldn't because they hadn't decided yeah

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_03] uh so they probably been okay with it right they would have been like they would have been like

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_08] okay not been okay with it but like at least you're telling us where you're at i think i think that um the the the obvious play was like we can't have both hayley and kamu in the game they had that line of thought initially it was a decent one they would they would have accepted it they would have pushed back they would have been mad but they would have accepted it and then if angela wins they don't have

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_08] the votes to save kamu anyway yeah and if kamu wins he's safe and if hayley wins the argument stands so like it's the perfect argument they would have been pissed one way or another but like they have

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_03] nowhere else to go don't blind set them yeah but but this season is all about unnecessary blindsides

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_08] yes and this is not the worst thing that happens here uh you've already alluded to knowing this yes

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_03] i love this part so much coming they're like upstairs in the meow meow room is what we called it and it's like they're like hey drew like you should win hoh today you should definitely win hoh i'm like yeah like shouldn't we all win it no no no you should win hoh today and i was like okay they're not they're not going to try to win this one i don't even think barrett tried melody through it mallory through it

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_08] barrett through it yeah and melody threw it like from get-go like she was not close yeah mallory was close and she slowed down and barrett was really close yeah and they both said multiple times that they threw it and very like matt mallory right afterward was like i wanted to know i could beat d and then i chose not to that would have been that would have been the start of

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_08] fap like taking over the icons the entire season this is another one of those very pivotal points like the entire season changes they spent the whole week concerned about this middle position wanting to say good with both sides they're like well we can't win because we're in this good position

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_03] yeah it's like just win come on you have to i think we had like the most numbers at the time as well like we had like four of us like that was like we were like the tightest four i guess like not really

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_08] because like we're we were ratting each other out but and they knew it was what they were supposed to like yeah the second common one on the block they had the game plan take out kamu switch sides take

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_03] out the icons yeah and me and barrett i think would have been right there with them we were like okay i guess this is time because we were we were fap at that moment i mean i'm sure you would have tried to

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_08] stay good with the remnants of you would have tried to direct it at d you would have tried to keep devins yeah but and they would have tried to get devins out oh yeah no for that reason um

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_03] and but it's so it's so frustrating like beforehand when they're like you need to win and i'm like oh guys like can we all and like and then i was in the lead and then d smokes me and then i'm like okay and then they get so close to winning and i'm like man like maybe they were trying but then i'm like no they could have totally taken it all almost barrett and mallory for sure melody like was

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_03] just throwing it off rip but like they them two could have taken it this was i think my most frustrated

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_08] game wise of just like mal because because everyone's rooting for mallory at this point like everyone's just like come on mallor she's the go uh and she's getting she's in this good spot and she throws this now so here's here's how this goes down d's initial thought yosh taylor lala yosh is the target yeah that's the her first thought um devins is like okay i like this

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_08] mallory should be the backup option she's like yeah whatever um this is it's funny how this happens too i'm on the update in the morning and i'm like now that d's in power go back to this contract idea what she should do is approach somebody like yosh and say you can't put me up for the rest of the season and and people are like nah that's stupid and then like 20 minutes after the update finishes

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_08] she says to the cameras i'm thinking i can approach yosh no way it was wild and the craziest thing is

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_03] like not only were you right but she like did it even more by protecting both of them went a step

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_08] further and included both of the other icons um brilliant use of the oh my gosh the bribe just

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_03] says like yosh is so smart and i felt like he could have just been like no and i think he would have been able to save himself but also it's like like three icons would be protecting you there's no way

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_08] they'd get rid of them right i mean i mean the way i pitched it was like the thing is you can still put

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_03] him on the block if you want to yeah if you want you can put him on but he can't put you so it's like why not keep him as long as you can yeah um that's so it's so gnarly how that happened so they get him

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_08] to accept the bribe he has to take it there's no choice they're targeting him if not yeah um and i for a long time was like i still don't know if it was the right move to keep him even if you can't target them he's still winning vetoes over them in spots where they need to win those vetoes right like uh like on baritage oh exactly yeah that's the that's the primary thing uh like if yosh isn't there

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_08] devins wins that veto yeah turns out they were able to save themselves anyway so yeah uh um so yosh gets saved by accepting the bribe um and things move back to not trusting you uh because you kept telling them that the eves were skeptical of them and barrett uh they don't trust your information um and they're really just frustrated with that whole situation at the

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_08] end of the previous week so d says to the cameras my heart is telling me to put drew up on the block uh maybe i'm wrong but my gut has been saying all season he's been coming after me he's been against me yeah so i have to make this move so her and devins trust your gut trust your trust your

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_06] how could you say something like that's malicious lies

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_08] uh yeah her and devins get together she says devins i think i want to go after drew uh he's like okay um she says uh they and so they they're like well what is we need a reason that so they okay so they orchestrate this whole meeting yeah to trap you into doing something yeah that they can use as an excuse to put you on the block um so they they call you in

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_08] uh or before that happened oh no it does work they call you in um they eventually get pull yosh yeah

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_03] and it goes poorly for me for you just terrible uh i'm like why are we outing our mosh pit alliance in front of yash it's just like no that you could you didn't matter what you said exactly you had the

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_08] truth on your side yosh was lying yeah um but i didn't articulate very well you try you left out parts of it at first and that because you didn't i think want to get into the confrontation with yosh in front of that um but then and i don't think you probably anticipated that yosh was just outright

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_03] lie i don't know why they like i now understand why they did it because they were targeting me but i was like why would you want to out the alliance for everybody like do i you want me to get into a fight like on purpose with yosh like i get it like but but what was the purpose the

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_08] purpose was just like we just need a reason to put you up yep that's 100 what it was they just needed to they knew you they knew something would come up and that they could use that yeah as the reason they're putting you on the block um d talks to to barrett and she tells him she wants to target you and i'm like barrett you want to help me out you want to stop her from doing this and he does initially he's like i mean is that i don't think that's a good idea like that doesn't feel good to

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_08] me um but she's like well barrett part of the reason i'm doing this is because of what you told me about what he said about devins it's like oh yeah he's got yeah i forgot about that and so he gives in he says okay i'm down i'm in um she goes to melody and mallory airs me out says true

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_03] says he can control you guys like no problem and i like did i say that or did i kind of allude to it

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_08] maybe honestly i think it would have been better if you had if you had said i can control them yeah no probably not uh but uh yeah i don't think you said those words but um but she does say that you were ratting them out yeah saying that you wanted to keep kamu uh oh and did you know that he was

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_03] gonna vote mallory out on thomas hoh if it was you oh yeah you know he was gonna get yeah yeah they're like wait what week three he was gonna vote yeah so clearly just trying to get them on

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_08] board in the same way she got barrett on board with targeting you game blow up they don't care oh they don't care they talk to each other after they're like oh well like he's all we still don't want drew gone yeah like that's like we need to find a way to save him um so that is sort of their priority at this point uh you try to apologize to d for the whole situation she doesn't believe it of course that's after you leave that conversation

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_08] she's like he's he's trying to he's trying to save his ass yeah uh you didn't even know you were in trouble at that no uh or not not in like not being targeted trouble at least um you talked to angela she because she tells you to go talk to angela yeah it was very funny she was like go talk to angela and you're like i will she's like now it was like she said why are you gone yeah um you talked to angela she you she says i'll go talk to d for you i'm sure she never talked to d she did

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_08] actually like in positive way she did she was she tried to talk to you out of it for about 60 seconds nice and then d was like no no it's got to be true and she's okay okay well thank you angela those 60 seconds meant a lot um then the nomination ceremony happens uh you air yourself out yeah

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_03] yeah that's the truth i'm the biggest liar the biggest liar in this house that's the truth

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_08] feeds come back from this because we didn't see it on feeds we saw in the episode obviously yeah feeds come back and d's like he's redeemed himself yeah he's not the target anymore yeah

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_03] just like that yeah right it's kind of crazy like to call myself a liar and then be okay

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_08] this is genuinely the turning point for you with them i don't think they tried to get you out of the game again until like maybe devin's final five yeah yeah yeah like you you you finally have locked in with them yeah actually you know what that's not completely true they still don't trust you afterward but they don't actively try to get you out quite yet yeah yeah because then i went hoh

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_03] and then they don't put any of them up but then devon's volunteers so they're like oh baby's okay um but that's so funny that's the truth i like aired it all out it's i think the main thing is

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_08] that like they no longer feel like you i'm playing both sides have any ability to go back yeah to the other side um and uh and also they finally believe like their baby that you're like their baby we'll do whatever they want exactly they compare you to i think it's harrier at one point hell yeah um so uh so it actually worked out well for me it's in a way it did it very much

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_08] well i would say saved you but actually you end up in more danger by the end of the week

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_03] so yeah it actually ended up backfiring yeah it's like i was good for the first part of the week and then i was like all right this is so cool i remember going up to the hoh room jumping on the bed like a victory and then and then like little did i know things were so yosh is still safe they don't she

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_08] doesn't want to target yosh you're now not the target yeah she needs another target it's got him yeah devon's pushes hard for mallory yeah she's a bit reluctant she doesn't she doesn't really want

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_03] to do that i'm begging for yosh and like they don't want to put him up because i didn't know that the

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_08] vibe was for all three yeah um so devon's convinces d to target mallory he tells the cameras at this point he's still he wants to go to final two with d um lala wins the tong veto yeah that's that one's

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_03] all hers that i was when i walked out i was like bb 14 i was like oh like i don't want to do this one

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_08] yep and uh and now with lala winning the veto they definitely need a renom uh and devon's again pushes for mallory d again is kind of like i really would rather not do mallory but she was reluctant for the mallory target because uh she didn't know how to explain number one why yosh wasn't going up number two that like mallory would go up um so she needs to figure out how to tell you guys she thinks

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_08] initially i need to tell them i need to tell them about the bribe to explain why yosh isn't going up um but only the bit about me being safe not about devon's and angela uh and then they'll pretend taylor is still the target at first but then when mallory gets pissed about being nommed which she inevitably will they'll use that as an excuse to switch the target yeah that's the plan um and devon's will pretend to be angry about this and play good cop yes while she plays bad cop yes that's also the plan

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_08] um and this is this is a pretty key moment for devon's and the relationship that you have with him and with the uh playing good cop seems to work very well yeah especially because like

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_03] this was also the week that we were on the hammock yep and like he doesn't really hear much if anything and then we air ourselves out yep yeah and i'm just like man that sucks yeah i mean you you um

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_08] you talk with with barrett about your your fap over crossovers this is even before mallory goes up yeah you're talking to he details you both about the plan uh about the bribe um you push back on the mallory thing barrett again mostly just is like okay mallory goes up oh really yep dude what the

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_03] heck and like d was like hey it's either mallory or melody like who would you prefer and i was like well

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_08] it's kind of a no-brainer for me again this is i'm i'm so frustrated with barrett at this point i'm like fight back man like yeah come on um he eventually does uh yes so you and barrett talk about flipping on the icons on the hammock yeah you talk about flipping on the crossroads it's over uh devin's

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_08] fully pretends he heard everything uh oscar performance you both go he he goes into the gym and he's like i didn't hear a word they said yeah um and the key here though is obviously you don't admit to everything you said yeah no we were more of like we just feel like at the bottom but what it felt like was what i talked about is that devin's being in this position of like you guys did something wrong

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_08] yeah uh and now you're explaining yourselves while also then forgiving you and like pulling you back into the fold and being like i'm so mad at d like this moment seems to lock you back in with devins yes

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_03] in a way that you weren't before yeah i was like ready to just like rip it i was like i'm done but then he was like no like she's also doing something that i don't want to do like these off on her own and she's like being a selfish team member and i was like i'm glad you see it the same way devins

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_08] and uh really good move on him yeah i mean it's again it's it's what we talked about before like i think if devins hadn't had that moment if he didn't know he needed to have those conversations and didn't have those conversations yeah it would have festered right yeah and then like and then i

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_03] would have won my age maybe i don't know what would happen during the medieval i don't know if i would have been able to play first but um the medieval i would have just like blown it up i would have done barrett's hoh a week earlier and then maybe he would have won that next one we would have done it again

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_08] yeah so what happens is details mallory mallory's devastated melody's devastated there's some screaming that happens um was that melody that was melody but the sunglasses um i did a whole thing with because what she does is um i don't know if it's exactly this moment but she takes a pillow

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_03] oh and throws it dude biggest crash outs of the uh of the season was melody and mallory and i love them for it

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[01:21:03] [SPEAKER_01] dehydration consult a health care professional if symptoms persist telling barrett maybe this is actually a

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_08] good thing because now we're back to being middlemen and this has pushed devins closer to us uh and this is the line of communication i think that eventually pushes barrett in because barrett is like

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_08] fuck no fuck the icon like he you saying this to him i think is largely why he's like i can't i can't work with drew then if he thinks this is a good thing and that we need to stick with the icons yeah um and now we talked about this in our initial exit interviews i think that you're saying this mostly out of

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_03] constantly out of cope right yeah no i always try to have like a positive take on everything like great like this is awesome like now we get to play which is just my personality of just like all right well it is what it is uh how do we get out of it yeah i play i played a lot of defense this game i don't think i was ever like

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_08] an offensive player yeah not often no yeah um yosh sees some weakness here he goes to barrett he's like listen that's this is what the icons do they use everyone up until they're done with them and then they discard them and barrett's like you're totally right that's what they've done with me um he tries to go to do the same thing with you but it doesn't quite land he talks to you about being the uh the vince of the

[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_08] season it was like um and it felt like you were taking it like you're talking too much like you're doing their puppy yeah um so uh devins tries to prod you for dirt on mallory you realize oh you know like this is probably he probably wants mallory gone you do tell him that you think it's possible that

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_08] mallory might put an icon on the block after all this has happened which i assume you thought was

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_03] like a reasonable thing to say yeah i was like well it's icon on the block but like would it be him i was like it would probably be d uh but he was i he was like and he goes hmm well that doesn't make

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_08] me want to be perfect i like d a lot more than mallory uh so you talked to barrett about haley working with angela and d and that this also pushes devins closer to us you were right about haley working with angela and d wrong about devins being pushed closer to you yeah um and uh you tell barrett even though before i was saying fap over crossovers i think i think we go back to

[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_08] crossovers now um and barrett is just see me he's just like no to be fair at this point barrett is still telling the cameras that he will evict mallory so it hasn't changed quite yet um the icons though they're fearful that they're gonna burn you and barrett if they because they still haven't told you outright that if they just tell you and then mallory stays because she went to

[01:24:04] [SPEAKER_08] blockbuster then they've just needlessly burned you so but they would probably get rid of me

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_03] right oh wait no that's later my bad one sec the idea they were they want to keep you now so like

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_08] the idea was if if mallory wins they take out taylor and so they don't want to have told you that they were going to vote out mallory if mallory stays exactly um so they decide they're going to

[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_03] double blindside i think right or one of there were two double ones just one of the yeah yeah and then

[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_08] my hoh was in their double blindside week um they they both agreed the icons all agreed if we were drew and barrett we would flip on us yeah so yeah why wouldn't they um there's a very funny situation

[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_03] when hayley accidentally tells you oh my god dude there's there's a group of four in this house it's mallory melody barrett and uh i was like what are we and i remember seeing dev is indeed in that room i think even angela they're just like what are you doing he's the fourth person

[01:25:08] [SPEAKER_08] because they needed to convince her to vote out mallory over taylor she wanted taylor out so they eventually flip her and then she then goes to talk to you about it uh yeah and they're like you can't tell drew that we're doing this and so she goes uh so drew we're voting out mallory yeah and you're like oh it's like the first time you're hearing it outright yeah like i suspect it

[01:25:32] [SPEAKER_08] it's like okay now it's yeah um and you leave and they go haley you just told drew she was like

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_03] belt to ass it's time for belt to like something crazy i was like she had like some crazy and they're like what is she talking about there's a group of four drew it's time but like when she said belt to ass i was like what is happening i don't even know what how does that mean what does that mean in this conversation maybe cheeses were involved yeah maybe it's like this is a cheeser you have to eat it

[01:25:59] [SPEAKER_08] so they're like hayley you need to go fix this tell them you were tell him you were you said it wrong she's oh that's what that's so sorry she's like so she comes back down she goes up to you and she says oh uh i said it wrong yeah we're voting out mallory yeah and like you're like that's what you

[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_03] just said yeah she like doubled down like oh then i said it right yeah yeah so she missed she messed up the correction also yeah dude that makes so much more and the thing is is when you like work with hayley like she also just gets confused in general like she could be like sometimes it's like she didn't know like what she was saying but like but like her mind knew what was supposed to be said and then her mouth said something else she was like yeah yeah no we're voting

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_03] out mallory and i'm like yeah you just told me that upstairs why did you come down here and say it again she's like oh okay good i just want to make sure i was like uh okay um bb28

[01:26:55] [SPEAKER_08] so now this was not so you were supposed to be blindsided but because hayley did this this actually turned out very poorly for you because because hayley did this they then were like okay now they know yeah so now we need to call everyone they have a cult meeting where they

[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_03] like tell you guys officially yeah what we're doing devins has a speech the winner needs to be in this room and like i'm crying on the floor and i was like man i don't want mallory to go she's gonna got you guys and then barrett's probably like you got them and this is what

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_08] breaks barrett yeah so if this meeting doesn't happen if you were going to be blindsided barrett maybe never breaks maybe right yeah at the very least he certainly never gets to gets around to voting you out yeah in this spot um so barrett goes to yosh afterwards and he says the icons have drew they have him like we're not getting him back they want to keep drew

[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_08] i don't uh and uh drew uh you end up telling barrett fap is is done we should vote out maori so he doesn't have to break a tie where it's like that yeah that's my girl he's starting to get a little more angsty yeah um and yosh realizes wait a minute if i have barrett's vote i can keep taylor too

[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_08] yeah so he goes back to barrett he says why don't we keep taylor barrett agrees yeah he says we just need to flip malady on drew fucking yeah um so he goes to malady and mallory and he says uh true's gonna vote out malory drew just told me he's gonna vote malary out to appease the icons it's not even gonna let it go to a tie so fuck that i'm voting for you to stay no matter what melody's like wow i mean i have i have felt like drew's been lying to me this whole time

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_08] and barrett says we both have yeah oh this is when she figured it out we've been working with them he tells her about the crossovers okay um he says that you should go he pitches essentially that that you should go over both taylor and mallory um and melody's really pissed she's like the audacity of him to fucking lie in my face after i confronted him about it multiple times he never had the guts

[01:29:10] [SPEAKER_08] to tell me literally fuck you is that is that a direct quote that's a direct quote sounds like

[01:29:17] [SPEAKER_03] yeah that does sound like her yeah i mean like they're not like the thing is like they're not wrong like i can't be mad at them that's the thing is like i'm like does it make sense for melody to vote me out like i don't think so but she also had barrett and yash pretty tightly yeah i think take and like their main goal was get rid of icons and like that side of the house was like

[01:29:42] [SPEAKER_03] get rid of the icons and i was still like ah fuck i guess i'll stay over here yeah i mean it felt it was the one week i finally earned their trust i was like killer dude like finally and i was like i was like barrett's not gonna turn on me like we still got melody and mallory in the house and it's like dude it's gonna be smooth sailing i was just like no no barrett was like drew must die yeah it felt

[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_08] like finally barrett's making a move finally right wait oh not over taylor though yeah that's not over

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_03] taylor makes no sense but um yeah over taylor made no sense because i think i could still be convinced because i was with melody mallory and if like mallory was there and me like we would still have

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_08] the four right um but i think it would ever happen it just happened so fast and there was so much momentum so like there's a little bit of nonsense they try to get hayley involved because they think they might need hayley's vote uh and then hayley's like why is barrett trying to pitch me on this she warns the icons they try to warn you and you're like barrett's not gonna vote me out you you have this

[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_08] whole like intervention with barrett yeah uh where he pretends he's chill now yeah um and then that night the the fap fans are all very sad you have a very long drawn out like fap hangout session at night and like you are like sad because you're thinking you're gonna be voting mallory out yeah and mallory and mallory are sad because they're gonna be voting you out yeah that's so funny how poetic

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_03] right we're just sitting there going like it's over and melody's struggling with it she's out in the hot tub i remember that little hot tub yeah i remember that there's a night before it's such a

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_08] bummer melody was struggling with it she says she says to mallet she's like i mean i i just gave drew so many opportunities he never tells told me the truth like this has to be done yeah like it just has to be done um and so they're all set to vote you out uh in the in the eviction you go into the block i was like screwed if i didn't win like i was done taylor taylor really wanted to uh see if you would

[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_08] be willing to throw to mallory yeah because she thought because you thought you were safe you might if you wanted mallory to stay you might be convinced to throw it to mallory um and then they could vote you out over her exactly uh but uh but the plan never fully no i mean i would never throw a blockbuster i i would i'm too scared to go down to a boat so uh this was truly the epitome of better be lucky than

[01:32:15] [SPEAKER_08] good yeah right because from how you told it on the feeds yeah you were able to eliminate one option and

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_03] you just because they told us beforehand testers have found that they are most successful if they wait for all three and i was like i'm waiting for two because mallory and taylor are very like by the book bear rules like i was like the only way i can guarantee the fact that i can get the book one is if i just totally go for two and i would see and you went for it you flipped a coin yeah i finally

[01:32:45] [SPEAKER_08] flipped my coin and it learned correctly uh and just like that mallory is out yeah and i got to hear all the gasps in the audience and uh more more screams yeah the opinion better would be lucky than good yeah uh yeah the audiences was the audience was not

[01:33:09] [SPEAKER_03] pleased the fans were not pleased oh yeah yeah it was a tough week i finally won like the i got to get the super cool uh never not pass i was like okay like there's people who might like and then i got in the fight and then i got into the i voted out mallory and i was like dude it's over everyone hates me again so i was like i can do whatever i want i was like i'm

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_03] i have no loyalties like i felt like a free agent and i felt by myself malady's super pissed at you

[01:33:41] [SPEAKER_08] oh yeah barrett's pissed at you you're annoyed with barrett because at this point you think why isn't barrett getting any heat for this yeah and it's because he's already ratted you out exactly yeah yeah um the whole medieval thing happens it's pretty straightforward yeah unless you have

[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_03] any other details for me um the only detail that maybe you guys didn't see was like bear was trying really hard for me to give him the safety over angela yeah and i was just did you see that um the episode went pretty quickly okay because they didn't have time yeah yeah it was a huge like field yeah it was weird because i was the deal with d was like give it to angela and then bear was like why aren't you giving it to me and then i learned that like he completely flipped on us at that point

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_03] and like the reason he sent yash in is because he knew yash would be yep and he was safe no matter what because lala would have kept him and hayley would have kept him so yash had like no risk going out there um yeah i mean there was a risk like hayley made my uh it's what she should have done but i could totally see her being like yes no like i'm just not that tight with lala and they were getting

[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_08] closer the like weeks of it's one of we we talked about it it's one of those things that it's like you never want to put yourself in danger but like this is getting hayley out is a pretty big swing oh yeah um hayley at that point hayley leaving was good for everybody except for the icons yeah they had her locked in she was a great person dragged to the end wouldn't have gotten votes oh yeah uh and

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_03] she was like the best person to sit next to at the end yeah anyways yeah that medieval night was fun though good to get in there and get out quick then you and hoh everyone's begging me probably

[01:35:27] [SPEAKER_08] on the outside to put all the icons up and i'm like no i mean at this point i i i think um i don't think i don't think i was saying this at the time i i was like these nominations

[01:35:39] [SPEAKER_03] make sense for drew see yeah i was like these are the only people that like aren't

[01:35:42] [SPEAKER_08] yeah working with like everyone else was trying to get through out yeah yeah

[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_03] so so i'm glad because like i got a lot of shit for it in the house by like melody specifically like

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_08] you're an idiot well we see we missed the nominations on feeds were still down from the

[01:35:57] [SPEAKER_03] twist dude it was like i had no time i had like an hour yeah not even like i got my room and like they're like okay cool go and i was like oh and i was like man what if it's gonna be three it's three

[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_08] so yeah that that lasted quite a long time um so uh tell me about this hoh competition i've heard a lot about how it was reshot the veto um the v i thought the hoh competition the the zingbot one

[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_03] though yeah the one that you won no that one wasn't reshot uh the veto was though interesting okay like it was like the balance beam one where you got to put the balls yes and like that that one quick no well that was exactly that one yeah so like it i started um we're i'm doing fairly well like i've had like 17 or 18 i'm getting close to finishing d has like 23 and then like i drop and like my pan

[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_03] shatters breaks it's just destroyed oh wow and then they're like um in 28 years that's never happened and i'm like of course the kid like breaks they haven't run it for 28 years no exactly but they're like never how we had this great and i was like oh that's really good and they're like all right guys we'll come back we'll reset everything the way it was they had mine reset like that i fell so then

[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_03] they they put a new pan and like the second i get on it breaks immediately like after putting one down and then they're like okay well drew you're out for this hoh i mean this veto competitions this can be between the rest of the five and like d was like two away and we're like it's kind of weird that they like didn't let her finish because she was two way at the very end and then taylor's breaks and i was like okay like it's just equipment not me i was like thank you so much taylor you're so

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_03] awesome like you maybe feel less bad about uh breaking mine and then they're like okay because taylor's broke like we're restarting we're getting new equipment and d was two way at the very end and we're like like why did drew have to sit out yeah but also it's like he's hoh so it's like he's it's like whatever but like i would have kept noms the same and then like taylor gets out they like immediately they cut it but it's kind of like well there's clearly like an equipment fault

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_03] right so that's yeah but d was two away and we're like oh it's like so annoying it helps d was not planning to vote yash out yeah no but i think she would have kept noms the same maybe she would

[01:38:28] [SPEAKER_08] pull them off yeah she would have kept noms the same yeah or yeah but i think she would she was

[01:38:32] [SPEAKER_03] playing in blindside you yeah no that's fair and i like fully knew that yash would stay that week like he was gonna win the veto or win the blockbuster i was like yash you're not leaving i did told him that i was like i would be shocked if he left this week as much as i wanted him to go you know what i mean like he is the biggest threat of the three that i put up but uh but then they came back we had the new ones that yeah the veto like yash won with that right and it

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_03] was a different shape yeah so he was flying through it and i was super like insecure because i broke mine twice and i was going really slow and i was like dude i don't want to break it again with the new stuff

[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_08] well that's interesting so yeah because uh everyone has talked about uh how during the hoh competition melody was winning and then they like stopped and reshot like that's what a lot of

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_03] people for the hoh yeah with the questions i don't think she was no we never re-re-stopped

[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_08] anything for that it was like straight through the whole time okay interesting yeah i don't have uh

[01:39:32] [SPEAKER_03] uh like notes on it it's just something but melody was really close too during that turn that veto yeah during that veto she was close so maybe we're just confusing that the hoh the veto because she also was like i'm pulling off right somebody but um i think she was also like two or three away i don't know the hoh the hoh was normal but the veto was was there's yeah i'll have to go back and uh

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_08] and look at what made people think that uh before i can give you a concrete answer why but um but good

[01:40:02] [SPEAKER_03] to know yeah yeah that's what i was with the with the video but the hoh went normal and it's like um

[01:40:10] [SPEAKER_08] we never have a reset for that yes all right well devins has volunteered we didn't see the initial moment he volunteered on the feeds at least yeah um i was beside myself dude i was pressed because

[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_03] it's like he volunteered the second i won we were in the house i go up to the gym i'm like guys so glad we won it's so clutch for the crossover and then he's like hey man i don't want you to put melody up like i'll i'll volunteer and i was like he does it right in front of d and i was like dude like i wasn't gonna put melody up anyways but like i have an excuse to put d up because she just put me up and now i can't because you just volunteered now it's gonna make me look really bad and then he's

[01:40:51] [SPEAKER_03] like no i'm not going out and then like i'm sitting there like at night like i'm like why did he volunteer like i should just put d up why did he volunteer i've been booming a really tough spot

[01:41:02] [SPEAKER_08] well this is another moment where people thought the dr convinced you to put d up instead of devins that night oh like to put d up instead of you came out of the dr you talked to cameras about it

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_03] oh no no they didn't convince me at all i was just like i was probably ranting in there about like dude why did devins do this like i was like and then i was like telling the camera like i'm not idiot guys like i would have put d up but devins is making it so hard on me yeah i don't think it would have went well after he volunteered to put d up and this was such a it's just a bad move from

[01:41:33] [SPEAKER_08] devins all around uh obviously he ends up like being in a rough spot um so feeds come back they're the noms are that have have happened details angela that they want to blindside you and keep yosh if you come down to it because yosh can't target any of them yeah yosh wins the veto devin says offer still stands but i would love it if melody went up instead um but by this point melody taylor barrett yosh and lala they're like locked in

[01:42:00] [SPEAKER_08] yeah like they're all locked in and if if devins goes on the block he's a goner yeah simultaneously d and angela are like we don't like how close drew and barrett are with with devins if he goes up on

[01:42:15] [SPEAKER_03] the block i don't know yeah um and like angela's like true this is not a good idea you should not put devins up and they're like hmm we're getting rid of him i don't think that would have been good because for them like i think devils yeah but it makes me laugh that they're just like double blindside

[01:42:33] [SPEAKER_08] i mean if it helps you like you can see how far the paranoia reaches right it wasn't just it wasn't

[01:42:38] [SPEAKER_03] just me me and devins were playing very similar games except he he didn't get a lot of the

[01:42:44] [SPEAKER_08] paranoia in the beginning look so there are two things one is that she allowed him to play good cop on her hoh which she's like now like well why did i let him do that because now they trust him and not me yeah and then two he was like he made a couple jokes uh there was one joke in particular like the the dining table um what was the i don't even remember what the joke was now uh it was something about like hey you know i didn't put you up last week um and she was like why would you make that

[01:43:12] [SPEAKER_03] oh yeah yeah yeah yeah she's so mad he's like he's the old to me right yeah yeah he was like uh we're all talking about like how he's the best alliance member it's like yeah i haven't put anybody for the crossover

[01:43:23] [SPEAKER_08] up it's like yeah she was really upset and she was like this means he's gonna turn on me uh and uh he needs to go um and now to her credit this was around the time that devin started to say in the diary room i can't sit next to her i i don't know if i can sit next to her maybe i do

[01:43:43] [SPEAKER_03] take drew bear and this was the time i started telling him like i was the best person to sit next

[01:43:47] [SPEAKER_08] to him because like my jury management's terrible so uh you know not to put up melody thank god

[01:43:55] [SPEAKER_03] dude they would have lit her up yeah like there's no way they wouldn't have i'm like if i put her up were you guys gonna vote rather like no and i'm like yeah right you got like imagine how dumb i'd be if like i put her up they just like got her out of my age which i'm like okay well i'm the stupidest guy who played big brother i still am one of them we're talking about the week where devin's volunteers

[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_08] for the block so true yeah this week i was like and devin's like i'm gonna like i'm gonna get credit for being loyal it's like dude you're not getting credit for anything yeah d and angela want you gone because you're volunteering because it's sketchy like you're not you're getting nothing

[01:44:32] [SPEAKER_03] from this all danger um unreal i'd like legitimately cannot believe i like d would have gone up in a heartbeat like it was like that's renom and i'm like i'm sorry this is the only thing that makes sense

[01:44:42] [SPEAKER_08] yeah and i wouldn't put up angela mm-hmm so the plan is to vote out devins um melody does tell you that barrett would have voted you out if you'd stayed on the block and i'm like i don't know if i

[01:44:55] [SPEAKER_03] believe that because he was telling me the other thing and i was like i don't know like i was like maybe barrett's just trying to like save face and like me the loyal ally and i'm like i don't know

[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_08] and at that point you have no idea that it's over taylor too right like you're like well she's

[01:45:11] [SPEAKER_03] talking about mallory maybe yeah i'm like that makes sense i get it because i would vote barrett out over

[01:45:16] [SPEAKER_08] reality yeah um your primary target is lala she's better at competitions yeah um you know obviously over uh devins and taylor um there's a there's a bit of stuff here where yosh wants to keep lala

[01:45:31] [SPEAKER_03] because she's more of like a because she's a bigger asset yeah she's a bigger target for him and she'll win yeah um which is and it's crazy because i was like man you get rid of taylor like i thought you

[01:45:41] [SPEAKER_08] guys were like super loud yeah it was very surprising yeah um but because yosh wants it d and angela also want it they're closer to like yeah to love yeah so d and angela and yosh and like melody they're all aligned on both votes yeah no devins and taylor yeah but they never figure out how to get on the same page yeah about either one uh

[01:46:09] [SPEAKER_08] angela and d don't want to get caught voting out devins so they're trying to suss out like are they going to flip because if they flip then we don't have to flip yeah um and they're also like can we get lala to stay yosh is saying he'll do it but do we believe him yeah um and they're relying on barrett as the go-between and barrett is like the one person that doesn't want lala to say uh other than you you know he doesn't want lala to stay either okay yeah so he and that's because what

[01:46:34] [SPEAKER_08] he thinks she's just a bigger threat yeah um he doesn't agree with yosh's logic or melodies uh so seemingly what happens here is that with barrett as like the guy the middleman communicating they just never get on the same page and just like that taylor stays so why because it even like right

[01:46:54] [SPEAKER_03] before the vote like angela like hugs barrett and i'm just like my favorite thing is like melody also like just if there's one thing you know about melody she's gonna vote the way she wants so it's like on my hoh she voted the wrong way and she lied about it and she lied about it i'm like yeah i think i believed her too yeah a lot of people thought it was d yeah i thought it was d i remember like it was probably d and i was like also like it could be yosh i was like i had no idea

[01:47:19] [SPEAKER_03] it does like to me like it doesn't matter because like the person who i wanted to go went and like we saw how crazy like trying to figure out votes would be what would happen you know with like the whole uh tool shed thing yeah they were so adamant figure out who's flipped it's just like i

[01:47:36] [SPEAKER_08] ended up destroying everything yep yeah so closing in on the end here barrett wins the hoh week nine

[01:47:44] [SPEAKER_03] yes uh i do have fun irish accent that like is terrible and i'll never do again it was the worst thing ever i remember like i was like do i have to they're like yeah do one with the irish and then like do another one like normal and i was like okay like the normal one i like that that's the one they're using and then i come out they're like dude your irish accent is awful

[01:48:06] [SPEAKER_03] barrett gets the purple barrett gets the purple ball barrett gets purple um but yeah oh man bear was super confident that hoh too he was like winking at me during that i was like oh this kid's got it

[01:48:19] [SPEAKER_08] yeah he knows what he wants to do it's all three icons yeah um he kind of tells you about it you're

[01:48:29] [SPEAKER_03] like oh it's happening oh man we're gonna do it i was like i just earned all this trust fine let's go because i did not want melody to go you know i mean he's like melody you're safe i'm like oh that means it's it's going down and i was trying to get devon's not on the block yeah but i do understand the reasoning of like if you're gonna put one of them like two of them like put all three because like devins would win a veto and like maybe pull them off and the plan feels

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_08] simple it's three icons and i people did debate this move is this the right move i thought it was yeah for the most part the move is because the thing is what is his other choice taylor's a waste of a shot taken when devins and d and yash are all in the game yeah so uh one of devins d or yash needs to leave on his situation uh put the three icons up if one comes down yash goes off yeah and he

[01:49:25] [SPEAKER_03] like definitely built trust i think with yash and taylor for just putting all three of the icons up because he could have been like oh i'll keep devins off and i'll put yash and you're pissing off both sides of the house it's like why would you do that so like it makes perfect sense exactly

[01:49:37] [SPEAKER_08] like you can't put yash taylor and melody because then you're risking melody yeah and that's a nightmare scenario for your hoh oh yeah you could put up drew maybe but that's still not an ideal scenario um so you probably have to put up an icon and they were already getting pissed at the thought of one of them going up on the block yeah so if you put one icon you might as well just put all of them yeah and then if if you need to yash is a backup target and kill us for the block like try

[01:50:02] [SPEAKER_08] one of the blockbusters exactly and if yash stays on the block and you're off the block you drew um the worry is and taylor says this to him immediately if drew's off the block he will vote for one of them

[01:50:15] [SPEAKER_03] to stay yeah i think it depends on who was there i don't think i'd ever vote devins out yeah but if it was d i'd be like yeah yeah like just because like but then you could be like true you're a liar like when it was double like you didn't do that but um it's just like d in me just had like such a rocky relationship but also like i think i'm lying i think i'd vote yash out i think you're completely

[01:50:40] [SPEAKER_03] right and then we saw the the proof of it during melody's double right so i think i would i think she

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[01:51:45] [SPEAKER_08] under 13 now playing only in theaters so she says you need to first of all prevent true from getting the worry was you getting veto using it forcing somebody on the block and then you'd have the votes to save an icon as long as they don't win the blockbuster um but but but barrett doesn't want to put you up um he wants an icon gone and he does want yasha as the backup target yeah that is true um

[01:52:11] [SPEAKER_08] so uh the icons start to worry that something's wrong and what they're worried about

[01:52:18] [SPEAKER_03] is that you've gotten into barrett's head yeah of course i'm like i'm like dude like like of course it was my fault right and drew's the biggest snake the biggest weasel the biggest liar in the house

[01:52:31] [SPEAKER_08] like it's all hidden yeah so the three of them are all like oh man drew's getting into barrett's head and then d and angela go off and they go i think devins is convincing drew to get into barrett's head oh my god really they start flipping on devins they started flipping on devins because they had already planned to vote him out they're like i should have been able to get him out yeah um so now

[01:52:52] [SPEAKER_03] they're like so devins was could have gone home on his too i think oh yeah i mean i don't think he was surviving even if he's next to angela i think taylor and yash was still yes yeah they were going to

[01:53:04] [SPEAKER_08] vote him out yeah um so uh so d and angela now worried that that devins has turned on them um d tells barrett about the bribe to get ahead of it thinking that devins might write it out and then barrett tells me about it tells you and i was so i was like streaming i was like here we go they finally gonna learn because this is genuinely like interesting information it kind of does shift what you might want

[01:53:31] [SPEAKER_08] to do here yeah knowing that yash cannot target them and must target you yeah like you genuinely

[01:53:37] [SPEAKER_03] might want yash gone here after all yeah but he doesn't believe it so he uh he generally did not believe it oh i thought he was just like it is what it is like i've already told them like they're pretty much going up like i've already made an effort to he initially tells you and he's like there's

[01:53:52] [SPEAKER_08] no way this is true right like and i was like i think i was like no this feels you initially were like not sure like you know i was like i don't think it matters i was like you didn't seem to believe it at first because he didn't he didn't present it in a way that he felt it was believable he was like i think she's lying to me and you're like yeah probably yeah um but while this is happening angela and d are still convinced that the devins is turning on them devins and angela have

[01:54:17] [SPEAKER_08] like the most ridiculous interaction um where like angela questions devins after she talks to barrett she's like so how'd your chat go or sorry no he says how'd your chat go with with and she goes why would it go any other way i said huh she's like it shouldn't go any other way should it devins

[01:54:40] [SPEAKER_03] oh my god i think i remember him telling me about this i don't know what that means

[01:54:43] [SPEAKER_08] he's like angela's freaking out again yeah he's like well we're together so what's the problem there should be no problem right it's like so it went well and they just go back and forth uh for a while because she thinks that he's turned on her then she goes and talks to barrett again and he's like yeah i'm putting all three putting you up she's like wait all three because initially she's like why me over devins yeah he's like it's not you

[01:55:09] [SPEAKER_03] over that it's all three and she's like she's like what you're wrong about that why would you do that um and then i guess there's like a really good shot of like one tear coming down angela's i can't wait to see that one it's just like just beautiful like picture perfect moment of one one tear uh

[01:55:30] [SPEAKER_08] melody has some good tear uh moments as well melody does yes uh there was a whole award show on bb unlocked for oh tears but i think angela won um big house meeting they're like let's let's call out yash upstairs uh for this and i was like i was and a lot of people were still under the assumption that yash

[01:55:55] [SPEAKER_08] would not be able to lie or sorry that d would not be able to lie about this and she was under the assumption uh same assumption um so when she says this is what it was this is what the deal was it was devins and angela and yash goes nope just her like what is yash doing like he can't get away with this

[01:56:17] [SPEAKER_08] yeah she can't lie but barrett believes yash goes to the diary room and apparently they tell him

[01:56:26] [SPEAKER_03] no d can lie about the like the terms terms of the but not like what can't she lie about that's

[01:56:32] [SPEAKER_08] what's confusing yeah right like the bribe power itself she can't lie about but the terms of the bribe she can lie about but she was under the assumption she couldn't lie about it until she realized she could at which point you know it wouldn't matter you and melody don't believe yash no taylor doesn't believe yash yeah yash admits it to taylor that night yeah to get ahead of it because you

[01:56:52] [SPEAKER_03] know it's like it's all gonna go but barrett stays believing yash for a while dude i can't believe that i thought it was so obvious that like and then i was like dude put it because when yash voted out melody on the lyric on week four like yeah like yash's tell was like i'm putting it on my brother and he would go like dp but yeah that's like yash's tell and i was like i remember in the hoh room i was like yo put it on your brother nothing you can't because you're lying because you would never

[01:57:19] [SPEAKER_03] um and then now at that point i was like it's so obvious that he's lying because like yash is a really straight up dude like he'll tell you everything like straight up like he's not gonna like he does lie like we all lie in the big brother house but if you ask him to put on his brother

[01:57:31] [SPEAKER_08] he would be like yeah my brother that's what he did with the lyric though yep so uh wouldn't it change anything maybe maybe not i think part of it too for barrett was like it sucked it's it's against bad information for him like he doesn't want to believe because it sucks for him really badly if he does um so the noms happen and the icons are pissed oh yeah they're

[01:57:56] [SPEAKER_08] very pissed uh d and devins argue about this um d's like listen i can respect the move at least and devins is like i don't uh d's like d still thinks that you were behind it yeah at which point devins like i actually don't think that that drew was behind this one uh and she goes devins don't be naive and he loses he gets like give me a fucking break yeah i remember him telling me this he was like

[01:58:24] [SPEAKER_03] stop treating me like an idiot or something like that right um yeah he used this moment to try to

[01:58:30] [SPEAKER_08] like sell to you that he was like defending you yeah all along when really it was just just that one

[01:58:36] [SPEAKER_03] time i was like oh thanks man just that one time is great um barrett admits to you he would have voted you out yeah which is wild i could he was in such a truth-telling mood with like telling devins he would have voted him out and i was like well let me see if i can get him to tell me and he's like yeah okay i made sure he did in front of melody and he's like i would have voted you out and now at that moment i was like barrett's out i was like everyone's out like i generally was like i'm alone even melody

[01:59:04] [SPEAKER_03] was gonna vote me out i was like oh okay where do i go from here you also find out that devins would have been out yeah during mine too i was like dude what the hell yeah i have nobody so what

[01:59:17] [SPEAKER_08] are you what are you strategically like what what where's the place to go i mean i know you told the cameras uh at the end of your week like it just went out from here yeah that was that was pretty

[01:59:27] [SPEAKER_03] much it was like i just have to make sure i win everything and like i try to get closer to devins because he he did make me believe that like i've been defending you this whole time because these chief said i'm like an idiot so i was like okay well i think i have devins and i have like melody as long as barrett's gone um but i would have like stuck with barrett because he would be my only option especially because he's isolating us but i'm doing all the icons right and i told him

[01:59:53] [SPEAKER_03] like everything you do is a reflection of me so like but apparently it's just me when it comes to d but i would about it i would have to stay with barrett but i would be like i can't even trust this kick because he would have voted me out and um yeah it was probably still stick with melody and barrett and like try to work with devin which is like what i did anyways but i was like i don't try i i had a feeling if i ever hit the block you know like a voting day like it was i was done

[02:00:18] [SPEAKER_03] but i needed to win out like that was pretty much my only option it felt like yeah i mean it kind of was

[02:00:25] [SPEAKER_08] um you do talk to barrett about winning the veto using donna angela yeah putting yasha up and he's

[02:00:35] [SPEAKER_03] like yeah sounds great yeah and was he ever really down for it i think he was that night yeah then he

[02:00:41] [SPEAKER_08] woke up right now he wakes up he has a conversation with melody about making sure you like she's like we can't have drew win the veto um and he had also had those conversations with taylor uh and so i think he just changed his mind yeah like last second he picks yash to play i was like

[02:00:58] [SPEAKER_03] that's a wild move man to like a little bit but it kind of worked out in a way because he kept noms

[02:01:04] [SPEAKER_08] the same which is what he wanted right yeah i mean he doesn't have to nominate yash because of this right

[02:01:11] [SPEAKER_03] yeah um but i think having yash as a renom would have like it like me or barrett winning it taking uh angel off like angel is not likely going to win anything especially any game because it's so like physical and like back to the block it forces one of these exact bigger players one and like yash would probably win or devins would win and then one of them goes yeah um but you know that's like

[02:01:38] [SPEAKER_03] an ideal scenario like for me specifically you know what i mean like yeah i want yash gone because yash is like the only dude that keeps whooping my ass in every single competition

[02:01:47] [SPEAKER_08] uh the icons had also debated about picking you for house guys choice yeah um ultimately they came

[02:01:55] [SPEAKER_03] to the conclusion that they could not trust you yeah uh angela gets the house guest choice yeah as you see like i'm just confused i'm wondering what you guys saw because she like picked it and then she was like i want to give myself the best chance possible so i'm gonna pick taylor and then i go what the hell is that shown or no i don't think so and then it goes and then she goes wait wait wait wait can i change my mind and like we're like is she gonna pick drew or is she gonna

[02:02:20] [SPEAKER_03] pick melody to give herself a better shot like it was the most bizarre like veto picking ceremony that

[02:02:26] [SPEAKER_08] we're just like what the hell is like going on geez yeah most of the veto ceremonies are really like yeah we didn't see 95 of the speeches dude yes i think the only one we saw was uh this veto

[02:02:40] [SPEAKER_03] ceremony speech because of because the the foot yeah i love that and the the fact that they got mad at me

[02:02:47] [SPEAKER_08] for not wanting to do that yeah um so you complain about not being chosen uh and d's like devon's just think true things were stupid you think he's gonna fake this fight with with barrett angela also thinks you're faking this fight with barrett she actually talks to you about it later i don't think you understood what she was asking she was like why did you why did you do that drew why did you fake that fight yeah and you're like i don't know i yeah she's she's saying like fake that fighter

[02:03:16] [SPEAKER_08] i don't think she said it like that i don't remember what her wording was but she's worded it in a way that made you think she was talking about something else i think yeah um and so at that so then

[02:03:25] [SPEAKER_03] she's like he confirmed it yeah exactly god dude i i falling forward like falling in style was the name of my game it's just like stumbling through the game um but this is the plus side for this uh

[02:03:39] [SPEAKER_08] because they think you're behind this move d and angela this is when they go you know what we'd vote for drew in final two he's playing hard he's the one that made this move not barrett barrett's just following orders barrett sucks they tell me they tell me that too yeah we would

[02:03:55] [SPEAKER_03] vote for you against barrett at the end i'm like well thanks guys yeah it's like but and then that's it

[02:04:00] [SPEAKER_08] yeah uh so so it worked out they appreciated your hustle um yosh wins the veto you do the ceasefire

[02:04:10] [SPEAKER_03] i didn't like for i did not believe that for a second i was like how can we believe a ceasefire when yosh literally can't do it yeah and they're like he's just gonna throw all the hohs i'm like what he's gonna throw all the hohs he's like yeah but he's gonna try for the veto so i'm like huh

[02:04:27] [SPEAKER_08] he was planning to throw yeah at this point um it changes when he flips his vote um you leave the ceasefire room and they're all like well he's the only way that drew stays loyal is if devins leaves yeah we can't trust him otherwise um which is true i think that's very true melody suspects that yosh is lying she talks to both you and barrett about needing to get yosh out soon so because a lot of

[02:04:53] [SPEAKER_08] people did not realize that she was happy for yosh to leave on her hoh and that it was not forced

[02:04:58] [SPEAKER_03] yeah um yeah she she like went three for three for big targets like you got to respect the fact that she went right the arguably the three biggest targets in the game were devins d yosh and yosh is

[02:05:10] [SPEAKER_08] targeting you at this point like you are his next target oh yeah um angela and d pitched to taylor and melody the women should stick together it works on melody oh yeah she goes to you we should keep d um and you're like that's cool we keep in devins too she's like no no just d and i'm like oh okay

[02:05:29] [SPEAKER_03] why but i also understand the thing of like getting rid of angela because it's like oh like everyone goes home against angela but it's like d also like everyone goes home against angela no one goes

[02:05:46] [SPEAKER_08] home against d unless you're yosh you go yeah like i don't know why that happened i wonder who voted that way no i think i i still back my decision but yeah i yeah uh melody goes to barrett with the same pitch barrett says no d needs to go yeah she goes okay she backs off um devins has been pitching to yosh that he's going to go after you and barrett keep him around and then after he makes that pitch

[02:06:13] [SPEAKER_08] you talk to him you're like you should tell yosh that you're going after me and barrett and he's like

[02:06:18] [SPEAKER_03] sure he's like that's a good idea yeah um so he was he would he have gone after me yeah okay

[02:06:27] [SPEAKER_08] well we'll we'll talk about it there was a bit of a discussion that happened okay um but uh but at this point he wants he he and he is preferring to work with yosh yeah and i think he also because he

[02:06:40] [SPEAKER_03] with the brush can't you can't put him up and then also on top of that it's like i think they wanted did they want barrett out more than me or they just for sure or they just lie it would be when he

[02:06:49] [SPEAKER_08] says you and barrett he's he's appeasing yosh to say he would target you he would need to put you on the block but he would be targeting barrett yeah they both they all want barrett out next um you get a lot closer to melody this week yes uh because the veto ceremony happens the leg yeah the puppets puppets um melody was so mad about you mad about this right the fact that i didn't do

[02:07:15] [SPEAKER_03] that i just thought it was kind of disrespectful um especially because like i was like first of all i've been working these people since the beginning and like i'm not okay i'm not gonna

[02:07:24] [SPEAKER_08] insult to injury they're all if you had done the puppet it would have been the final confirmation

[02:07:28] [SPEAKER_03] forever that you are yeah the one behind this exactly like hahaha um but yeah she was so mad i remember she like went over by the pool was like touch me look at me but barrett this is the big thing barrett retreats up to his hoh room the whole yeah for the rest of the whole week basically and so do and so do we i felt like the whole time we were like isolating ourselves i kept saying it i was like

[02:07:52] [SPEAKER_03] guys you should probably go and be around and they're like no it's cool i was like ah this is the big mistake

[02:07:58] [SPEAKER_08] yeah um because while he's isolating himself and yeah you're up there but like most of my notes for barrett on the in these days is him talking to cameras so he's not talking to anybody else oh okay yeah um and you're you're spending a lot of time yeah up there but also with melody yeah which is starting to catch on with other people yeah like okay and i think this is when angela's like i saw

[02:08:22] [SPEAKER_03] you in the pool i saw you guys in the pool it might have been that one yeah um and i was telling melody too like what why we were sitting outside and i was like do you see devon d angela yash taylor like they're all hanging out i was like i think that's a new alliance and then they're like probably

[02:08:41] [SPEAKER_08] yash and taylor start getting concerned about how close melody is with you because they want you out yeah it gets a little bit of fear and then d is able to use this d this is d's like masterpiece i mean it's incredible that she managed to convince them to keep her um she uses it brought dang easily back it did right it she uses their fear of you and melody she uses the fact that she

[02:09:05] [SPEAKER_08] hasn't spoken to barrett at all this week uh she says um it's better to sit next to me on the block than angela she says also i'm insurance if i'm on the block against angela that means devons is staying and if devons is staying you need me to keep him from going back to drew and barry and they go oh no you're right yeah um she pitches the same thing to taylor they both agree with it they end up

[02:09:35] [SPEAKER_08] convinced to keep d um and this is when after she's already got them on board you come down and you're like hey i'm voting to keep you uh yeah and she hugs you yeah and she has the middle finger

[02:09:48] [SPEAKER_03] is that what it was yeah that's so funny and i was like i i was genuinely like yeah i will keep her yeah because you were talking melody about it yeah we were like yeah we're all on the same page of like keeping and like we're all dumb for keeping d but we're all like no like we're just so scared to sit next to angela but that's so funny that's when i was wondering when that picture was because it's my favorite picture the whole season it sums up me and d's relationship like in one picture

[02:10:13] [SPEAKER_08] sure yeah it was it was half sort of like she doesn't believe that you really will and half like i don't need you i just i got yeah she's like it doesn't even matter what you do um so uh devins tries his own campaign he tries to promise to protect yash and taylor but they do not buy his campaign they don't trust devins so they what they do is they pretend that they're willing to keep him in case he wins the blockbuster but if he had lost that blockbuster they would have voted him yeah i felt that i

[02:10:40] [SPEAKER_03] mean i went up to he devins goes up to the gym and like gets warmed up before he goes to and i was like i came in there like crying i was like i think you have to wait and he was like leave me alone

[02:10:52] [SPEAKER_08] at the time he thought there was a genuine chance that he could stay what they did was they told him if you give a big speech against drew we'll keep you they wouldn't have yeah but they wanted to see if he was willing to in like his same way same thing you did to taylor and lala and yash like burn that bridge yeah yeah uh they said they said something similar like that's why d after the blockbuster does her whole thing against you yeah was to like lock in with taylor and yash like i'm not with drew

[02:11:21] [SPEAKER_08] see yeah um she didn't need to but uh but she was like i might as well yeah because she didn't know for

[02:11:28] [SPEAKER_03] sure if it worked yeah if they were on you never know yeah might as well double down yeah um it's also at

[02:11:36] [SPEAKER_08] this point devins and d confirmed to each other if one of them get evicted that night because they were sure one of them would yeah they'd go to the jury and they'd give the other person credit for

[02:11:46] [SPEAKER_03] everything yeah yeah that is a good move like respect honestly um all right so obviously devins wins the

[02:11:57] [SPEAKER_08] blind side happens yeah i mean you knew immediately you you suspected this was happening because taylor

[02:12:04] [SPEAKER_03] wouldn't tell you what was going to oh yeah yeah i was asking taylor's like so like what do we and they're all doing the blockbuster and like so what happens like where are we voting because it's all the newbies and we're like all the newbies are here what's up what's the boat and they just dead silent then i was like all right i told myself when the boats are being read out like right before i was like if it's two three that means do you stay and if it's four one that means angela's going and they

[02:12:28] [SPEAKER_03] said two three i was like okay and like i kept going back and forth i was like do i want i don't know how much it would have helped i don't think it mattered if i voted to keep d they would have been like drew's like we didn't even need you so it doesn't matter and they were still gonna target barrett before you yeah and i was like if i vote this way i was like maybe i'll finally earn like trust back with barrett and melody they'll be like oh well like at least i'm sinking with the ship

[02:12:54] [SPEAKER_03] you would have thought right but is that not what happened no dude if i ever get to go back i'm kind of i'm gonna be like hey man how do i get people to trust me and you have to give me a full breakdown um because what the hell to be fair this is what i remember when i talked to you about how d

[02:13:12] [SPEAKER_08] used hayley to blame everything on hayley to win kamu back over so uh first taylor and yash pretend to devins that they would have kept him they wouldn't have then yash wins the hoh he's now willing to win the hoh because of this movie he made um and he talks to taylor about how obviously we're targeting drew the plan is blame drew for the vote flip oh for the vote flip yeah that was

[02:13:37] [SPEAKER_08] the main goal the only reason we flipped barrett is because we couldn't trust true because one of the things it worked what it fully worked one of the things d told them when campaigning was hey just so you know i know you guys made this little ceasefire thing like drew told us about it yeah uh so he was like so he was like drew ratted out the ceasefire right after it happened that's when

[02:14:00] [SPEAKER_08] we decided to flip yeah um and uh and barrett and melody both are pissed yeah they're really pissed they're like this he ruins everything like screw this guy um rude it's just like it just made no sense to

[02:14:19] [SPEAKER_03] me the ceasefire just felt so phony but maybe maybe it wasn't was it it wasn't for barrett and melody

[02:14:26] [SPEAKER_08] but it was for for yash and taylor which is like the more important people yeah uh but they but they were able to pretend that they would have held it would have upheld it if not for you yeah ratting it out you know and so uh barrett and melody are like they're so pissed they're like we're gonna vote for each other to say we're voting throughout this week um and oh yeah so on yasha's each other yeah yeah

[02:14:50] [SPEAKER_03] like i was screwed i needed it yeah yeah yeah for sure i never would have melody's vote um

[02:14:55] [SPEAKER_08] i mean well yeah because this was now the uh final seven yeah so there's four votes yeah uh if you don't have taylor and or barrett or melody then yash breaks a tie you're done yeah yeah so now the question would you really not have had melody is a question who knows she says to barrett right there on you know thursday night or whatever uh maybe it was friday that she would vote you out over her

[02:15:23] [SPEAKER_08] and him but she's obviously going to say that to barrett yeah um i do think she meant it at the time that's my read yeah but over the course of the week there's a chance there's a chance she she probably is voting you out over barracks she can't trust you next to there no exactly like her i like plans a lot more with barrett yeah um they also talked about how they wouldn't vote for you in the

[02:15:49] [SPEAKER_08] final two this year and melody yeah yeah i don't think they would the only person they'd vote for over you i think they said was like taylor taylor yeah um like she was like i hate d and i'd even vote d over him yeah uh i also think she would have voted for you in the final two for what's work

[02:16:05] [SPEAKER_03] even if i'm next to that was my read devins i don't know next to devins i feel like no i think

[02:16:09] [SPEAKER_08] devins wins unanimous yeah next to devins is your one but i we'd have to ask her i don't i think i don't have her vote um we were wondering you versus taylor if taylor's the one to cut devins she needs either angela or melody yeah because she would probably have lala yosh and a good chance of getting barrett um so could she get melody or could she get angela it felt like the answer was no yeah

[02:16:36] [SPEAKER_08] i don't think barrett would vote for me ever um unless i won the last hoh if you were the one to cut devins i think maybe maybe yeah but also i haven't talked to you probably talked to yeah yeah um okay so uh yosh is hoh they're mad at you he he blames them he's yosh and taylor like perfect we've got two final fours one with melody and barrett one with the icons yeah drew leaves this week for

[02:17:05] [SPEAKER_08] golden um and uh d tells devins and you wanted to keep the 5k yeah because they're safe because exactly

[02:17:18] [SPEAKER_03] um dude what like it was like the best usage of that power ever yeah uh for them the plan is obvious

[02:17:25] [SPEAKER_08] barrett leaves if he wins you leave yeah um d suggests then once barrett or drew is gone we turn on yosh right and devins is like i don't think so oh really not initially um veto competition perhaps your greatest moment you think so i think this is i think that like

[02:17:51] [SPEAKER_08] this is the start of i think that this moment won you the most amount of fans or at least like the people that were like drew people like this is when they really came out they were like that was awesome they're like wait he's actually playing big brother like 13 hours uh you know doing doing the thing yosh barrett true yeah yeah sh barrett true um and

[02:18:21] [SPEAKER_08] you convinced yosh to to give it to you couldn't believe it on my on my cousin matt on your cousin matt if it doesn't exist um for days afterward too we were like are these two going to stick to this because they neither of them have ratted this out yeah i was kind of like

[02:18:40] [SPEAKER_03] i wasn't i wasn't completely sure yeah i was like we'll see how it is like play it by ear because yasha's a super loyal guy and like once you lock yash in but i feel like there's so much bad blood between us i'm

[02:18:51] [SPEAKER_08] just like it so yeah so what happens is you tell the cameras you're sticking to the deal yeah um you both keep it a secret yash and taylor do lock in their final four with d and devins they call it the culture the culture uh yes the plan is for that final four barrett first then you um but privately devins indeed disagree d leans more toward working with you against yosh devins is more pro

[02:19:21] [SPEAKER_08] yash um d eventually convinces devins if barrett is gone then yash has to be the primary target that drew can be the backup target yeah if uh if barrett wins the blockbuster and melody leaves then uh then okay we can maybe target drew next to barrett right uh i basically you're the you know the backup target on either direction in either direction yeah um but devins is still a

[02:19:47] [SPEAKER_08] back and forth on it um they also argue about who they would vote for in the final two d says she would vote for you over yash devins like i think i would vote for yash over jira i think i just played a

[02:19:57] [SPEAKER_03] better game yeah yeah um i think yash played great game i wouldn't be mad right who would you vote for

[02:20:03] [SPEAKER_08] me or yash between you and yash uh it depends on how you got there i think yeah um i tend to look most at like how many rounds did you go not needing to win so yash um but yash had won so many times there were very few rounds that he got through that he didn't need to win to that point yeah uh like if yash had

[02:20:24] [SPEAKER_08] survived against d in the double eviction and you two go to the end together then you know yeah i it's it's genuinely tough i i see like what comps who wins yeah like what kinds of decisions were who

[02:20:40] [SPEAKER_03] brings the other to the final two because that's a bad decision no yeah maybe we should do that i think yash would have a really good winner because i think yash would have won i feel the record oh i think he would i think he should have i think yash is like played a really strong game

[02:20:53] [SPEAKER_08] like throughout the whole thing yeah i mean the thing is like yash's trajectory as a player was like just up yeah right maybe maybe with like why did you keep d over angela yeah back up yeah uh although i didn't like him winning that hoh either to be honest i think it put him in a

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[02:22:19] [SPEAKER_08] she keeps trying to pitch this to drew to yash yeah um and yash is like it does seem like he's a little like yeah or devins yeah he's like maybe drew's being honest yeah like he's he's actually like he's it is a stark contrast between the way he was talking about you before and after the deal so

[02:22:36] [SPEAKER_03] it did seem like he was kind of maybe i was also like in this state like i think because i had put out my sister i would lean towards doing it especially because like the icons were like uh but also like i just knew i couldn't beat yash in every single competition so like the loophole of like melody winning was

[02:22:55] [SPEAKER_08] perfect yeah you were promising both sides you're promising devins that you're going after yash you're promising yash you're going to devin yeah uh i i i was like i think this is close but i if i have to guess what he's gonna do i do think he's gonna decide he's gonna go against yash um and uh and ultimately that does happen yeah um but it did feel like it was close yeah i think if i won i would

[02:23:21] [SPEAKER_03] have been like i think i would have i don't know this is me i've no i kept going back and forth on it the whole time and like i was trying so hard to earn like goodwill with melody and barrett that i'd probably been like all right well barrett was gone yeah right so i would be like well it's yeah i

[02:23:38] [SPEAKER_08] mean imagine the scenario where barrett leaves you win hoh if you're targeting yash you're putting up yash and taylor yeah what happens if yash wins the veto you definitely put up d right yeah and d goes goes yeah um now obviously we know devins won the veto so wouldn't it matter but um so yeah but if you target d and devins devins wins the veto i put taylor you put taylor yeah and taylor stays

[02:24:05] [SPEAKER_03] d leaves and then devins is mad at me yeah so it's like but like maybe me and yash will actually have

[02:24:12] [SPEAKER_08] plenty of people to be mad at exactly he's alone yeah um okay double eviction happens malady clutches out two back-to-back wins legend first to do it i think uh for someone the blockbuster and then blockbuster and then hoh immediately after at least that seems for me it's weird because i had like the weird medieval thing right yeah because there was a gap yeah yeah yeah um yeah that's that's what we

[02:24:34] [SPEAKER_08] talked about that you did yeah last race yeah um we've talked about it already you've talked about it plenty yeah she has to make the decision she puts up yash you vote out yash over d if she put me up

[02:24:49] [SPEAKER_03] as the renom but i've gone probably right yeah i couldn't believe they pitched well so taylor and

[02:24:56] [SPEAKER_08] yash said different things yash said he wouldn't have voted you out yeah taylor says she would have so i'd been out because devins would have voted me out yes yeah so with taylor's vote you would have been gone yeah um so uh i think she did the best move she could for her game i think so i personally

[02:25:14] [SPEAKER_03] agreed also with taking out yash you agree with it everyone's giving me such a hard time about it but it just felt like the second he was out i just started to win exactly oh it proof wasn't that i don't think you're winning final five veto the final five was the mummy one yeah i think it'd be really close between me and him and i think he it would be like a toss-up yeah i mean

[02:25:34] [SPEAKER_08] like he he was winning like i was doing stats on this he had won almost every single competition he played in let's create since his first hoh wow he won that hoh he won the veto yeah he didn't compete at all the following week technically he lost the first um uh

[02:26:00] [SPEAKER_08] medieval competition to d true but like yeah so that one's a little weird um and but he won then then he threw the hoh you won yeah uh he got to tiebreaker intentionally through it yeah and he threw it to get to he he purposely got one question wrong because he knew the bird one there's no way he didn't i was like so there's a good chance he could have won that if he hadn't

[02:26:23] [SPEAKER_03] thrown but he couldn't why did he want to throw it i'm like oh okay fair through that and then did he try to like he didn't so he'd like the one barrett one probably he couldn't have won yeah he wasn't he wasn't doing too well yeah he was probably like one on the lower side of that it was like wow yash is finally not winning something like barrett might win it right so that's kind of like the

[02:26:43] [SPEAKER_08] one he like for sure lost but everything else he either threw or he basically won yeah um leading up until like even like the veto competition like he was second to you yeah uh and so like it was

[02:27:00] [SPEAKER_03] looking like he could just comp out like legitimately he could comp out yeah um

[02:27:06] [SPEAKER_08] so yeah i i didn't disagree with this decision um i think that you know through the double eviction you're in the final five who cares about positioning a final five yeah if if you have a better shot at winning a comp let's go for it i mean that's essentially what devins almost had to do yeah um so yash is gone um you talked to devins now final five you talked about going to final two together

[02:27:35] [SPEAKER_08] yeah um you sell you tell him i hope you take me yeah i think you underestimate how much the jury perceives me as the vet's little pet yeah uh and um oh and sorry during the double eviction true

[02:27:49] [SPEAKER_03] get poppin get poppin dude i couldn't everyone in that house like bitched at me at one point even julie

[02:27:57] [SPEAKER_08] it was so funny get poppin d can't believe she survived again her and devins talk about making sure that you get split up with melody yeah you and melody get split up this week devins gets 10k

[02:28:10] [SPEAKER_03] for free legend i tried so hard at that point um there's no way no one wasn't gonna press it

[02:28:17] [SPEAKER_08] it's such a give me the the curse was just what the format they were going to use anyway yeah yeah come on um details the camera she wants to keep melody and taylor to to take out you and eventually devins yeah she wants to go to the end that's a good final three for her exactly um i mean i don't think she was willing to cut devins herself yeah before final three but she would have cut matt final three uh but she wants to keep melody around uh ideally she keeps taylor too so i didn't

[02:28:46] [SPEAKER_08] win that veto i probably would have gone yes yeah uh devins wins the hoh god it's decided immediately

[02:28:55] [SPEAKER_03] they immediately talk it has true oh it is like the most like clear option ever and like they like wake up and they're like drew we have to talk i'm like let me guess it's the right move you guys want to do the right move yeah that's fair i don't expect the survivor to make the wrong move you tried very hard i did and then d says you didn't try hard enough and i'm like i was living on my hands and knees begging pawning away my jewelry and again d was like devins it's okay if you

[02:29:21] [SPEAKER_08] blame me for this yeah um so he kind of did yeah um but like they're right i want to take the melody off so i can't they can't be mad now to be fair to you here devins does want melody gone not you yeah d plans to blindside devins the she her plan is to to take you out yeah so yeah as you mentioned if you didn't win this veto d and taylor vote you out over melody devins can't stop it yeah

[02:29:52] [SPEAKER_08] um and at this point uh and and also devins she also makes sure she's like we need to split them up right so if melody wins the veto true strong you're you're down to get drew out right he's like he says yes so he's gonna get you out over taylor um so uh devins tells the cameras at this point he is gonna cut d at final three but he can't bring himself to do it before then yeah uh and

[02:30:21] [SPEAKER_08] if that means he misses a shot he can live with that um so he's playing for second one

[02:30:27] [SPEAKER_03] i mean i think he beats d i think he does uh i do i do think d deserves a lot more credit i feel like people are underestimating her so so hard yeah i mean which is in part her strategy from

[02:30:39] [SPEAKER_08] the very beginning yeah no but like she a lot of the moves yeah by the end there were a lot of people like not understanding like people are like oh devins must have come up with the bribe idea yeah i was one of them too no yeah no it's the d super smart um so you do win this veto thank god very very much

[02:31:02] [SPEAKER_08] needed to uh at which point d has to concede like uh i guess i'm losing melody yeah um she then spends time working on taylor instead to make sure that taylor she has a final two with taylor um which works they make a final two oh yeah taylor's happy to go final two with d she thinks she has the best shot

[02:31:20] [SPEAKER_03] against d i think that's like somewhat somewhat true i think i don't think she could win unless it depends how she got there if she brought d i could see her winning yeah well i think the thing is um

[02:31:33] [SPEAKER_08] if she can get there with the especially if she's the one who cut devins no exactly um then because we talked about this even with like her versus devins it was like does just taylor actually have a better shot against devins than than true obviously the answer is no yeah um but like there was a world where it's like the thing is that against devins she has a shot at mallory's vote or melody's vote oh

[02:31:57] [SPEAKER_08] yeah um and so should have melody barrett if she has melody and she can maintain barrett lala yash before that's four yeah she doesn't have any of them but yeah but but if she made the cut exactly and i could see people being like oh damn and the logic could be if she's the one to cut devins and take

[02:32:19] [SPEAKER_08] d melody barrett yash lala maybe yeah right she generally she had a huge chance it just like to win the whole day um you end up now that especially now that barrett's gone like big time bonding with melody like this is the first time that it feels like the two of you are not at odds in the game yeah we're finally on the same page yeah and it's when you're on the block against each other or not against each

[02:32:47] [SPEAKER_08] other the whole time but like but one of you is about to actually leave finally um and i think this is pretty huge obviously for your chance of getting a jury vote yeah exactly it's like oh wait now she

[02:33:00] [SPEAKER_03] like finally finally likes me and you might respect me and she lets you know about some of the jury

[02:33:06] [SPEAKER_08] preferences that barrett was talking about not voting for you that you need to cut devins yeah um if you want to have a chop to win uh and um you didn't quite listen no no i didn't no i was i was trying to get

[02:33:22] [SPEAKER_03] 75 grand minimum and it didn't work that's a lot of money for a 22 year old there is a big moment

[02:33:28] [SPEAKER_08] i'm sure you you must have seen this clip by now uh she's leaving you go melody melody she comes back when we hug big moment oh yeah crazy big moment for the uh the uh shivers yeah true true

[02:33:44] [SPEAKER_03] yeah it's so funny that i felt so corny doing that so the fact people liked it i was like oh wow it's so

[02:33:51] [SPEAKER_08] funny people love corny i guess i guess they do um i'm sure you've been asked a million times

[02:33:56] [SPEAKER_03] any progress any progress on true lady well i've said the same i think she's a really pretty girl um super fun to hang around um and we are hanging out so that's fun she lives in arizona but we're just uh we're just seeing what happens i know you guys you talked about with like mallory like let's get a house in san diego yeah it's the fap house fab house um but yeah no i think she's

[02:34:22] [SPEAKER_03] really cool and i'm uh just waiting for a shot yeah balls in her court we'll see we'll see i have a

[02:34:30] [SPEAKER_06] i have a clip about uh balls i'm like oh my god balls are everywhere dude angela's the best

[02:34:43] [SPEAKER_03] angela it's like she's just like 100 serious about everything it's so awesome uh but yeah okay

[02:34:53] [SPEAKER_08] really closing in here taylor wins the final four hoh i'm like somewhat happy with that yeah because it's

[02:34:59] [SPEAKER_03] like that final four hoh like it doesn't really hold anything doesn't really like the vetoes like the i was like i need a big move to like get some jury votes so i was like hoping i obviously wanted to win the hoh and then like i just tried to win the veto and i would probably i don't know who i would like take that decision i might have just been like let let devins do it maybe because you probably would

[02:35:29] [SPEAKER_08] have like i mean ultimately you made the decision to keep devins over d yeah so i think i would have

[02:35:33] [SPEAKER_03] let devins make the choice and then he would have you cut taylor he would have cut taylor because then

[02:35:38] [SPEAKER_08] you're like better than both and then and then that probably would have guaranteed you second place

[02:35:42] [SPEAKER_03] yes exactly that's what i was hoping but um but then i would try to sit next to d and i probably

[02:35:49] [SPEAKER_08] would have lost i think i would have for sure i think failure to cut either icon in final four probably would have cost you the game i think so with the jury yeah um like going to the jury with with both of them yeah i think even if you cut devins at final three at that point they'd be like you literally did it when you had to yeah you said the same about the final four you could but uh

[02:36:17] [SPEAKER_08] but you had a chance to take both out yeah yeah what would you have done if you were me final four yeah so you get rid of devins you win the veto um let me set this up briefly right taylor wins hoh devins actually says this is great for me devins loves the taylor won hoh because now uh he thinks you're both taking him to final three yeah uh and he's right turns out yeah uh it was close it was

[02:36:47] [SPEAKER_08] um you are talking to d about taking each other uh d is lying to you she's taking devins um you i think at this point were not lying yeah i wasn't yeah i kept going back and forth the whole week you change your mind yeah um you're also of course promising devins taylor wants devins out that's her preference you win the veto we talked about this a lot because there wasn't much else to talk about

[02:37:12] [SPEAKER_08] yeah um i landed on you gotta cut devins is that what you landed on that's right yeah you got to cut devins because you have to give yourself the best chance of winning final three hoh uh devins is uh more likely to win um in both the in both part two and part three part three uh then just because he has more like knowledge of he's better at the quizzes d is not good at puzzles d has not studied

[02:37:40] [SPEAKER_08] nearly as much as him yeah and i have i have some extra benefit of having watched d study and watched her study with devins and devins knows a lot more okay um and so i'm like i think if devins is not there drew should be really in a really good position to make part three yeah if he doesn't win part one he'll win part two he should win part one because he beat both of those people

[02:38:06] [SPEAKER_08] on the wall yeah uh granted this was a different it was a different thing and if not he should win part two because it tends to be pretty physical yeah and he should be able to have a leg up over d who's not good at those kinds of competitions anyway the puzzle lead stuff uh and should have enough of a leg up on taylor physically like with just your size yeah that you probably have a good shot at that and then you make it to part three if you're against d right because you probably beat d in part three it

[02:38:34] [SPEAKER_08] turns out you probably would be taylor in part three as well yeah um so and it shows the jury i'm not devin's baby yeah um i i've made the move it doesn't lock you out of ever being able to cut him um so that was my idea but i do recognize that it is like it's not like the most obvious move in the

[02:38:58] [SPEAKER_08] world there is benefit to thinking well i can guarantee myself a seat assuming devin's takes me uh the problem is if devin's wins you're definitely losing exactly um yeah and you didn't realize this but there's a good chance devin's gonna cut you yeah uh and so you know that that's part yeah no i

[02:39:21] [SPEAKER_03] could see i could see both it's i went back and forth the whole time and like my main factor was like asking them to throw that first part right and like d hasn't been cooperative the whole game with me i was like okay like she's definitely not taking me to the end little i know no one was taking me to the end i had to take myself to be fair devins was planning to initially he also changed yeah and i think taylor would have taken me over devin's over devin's

[02:39:47] [SPEAKER_03] so i was like okay yeah it's one of those decisions that i'm like if it was any other endurance comp i think i would have had it and like that one was just not mine and i was like oh man and taylor just crushed it like literally never looked like she was going to lose i was like okay so i needed to win that second part and like going into that second part against devin's i'm like this is gonna be close and then he like whoops me and i'm like ah then i'm sitting there like a

[02:40:15] [SPEAKER_08] duck the whole uh the whole week yeah i mean it really came down to that part too like yeah you win that part too you win the game yeah so devins wins he needs to in part three but you know uh so like i mean that and that's the thing like end of the day i say you win the game i don't know for sure yeah um i've heard i think i've heard that the jury said that you would have won over taylor yeah

[02:40:40] [SPEAKER_08] that's what we assumed um i can't be 100 sure i haven't talked to the jury no assuming you've

[02:40:46] [SPEAKER_03] thought yeah they were like you were gonna win over taylor but like never over devins right especially if i brought him i'd be like are you kidding me they'd be like cody and derrick it'd be so bad um but yeah no i mean do i regret getting rid of d like i can't say yeah i mean would it like because hindsight's 20 20 if i if they were like true these are the comps i'd be like oh

[02:41:11] [SPEAKER_03] devins needs to go yeah but you know now i get to be a fallen angel third this is part of it right

[02:41:18] [SPEAKER_08] like you thought that part three we talked about the snacks and true you thought that part three was the old version yeah of like finish the statement yeah um and that it wasn't involving quiz stuff uh and so you were like what you said to the cameras was like i think i have a i think i'm like

[02:41:37] [SPEAKER_03] not gonna do well against taylor oh yeah no she knows like she knew him a lot better than i did i felt like there's a lot of her friends yeah and i was like devins i feel like me and him did not like like i think a lot of the people in the jury were taylor's friends yeah and like they were like really close like she would know barrett she would know melody it's such a crap shoot though anyway

[02:41:59] [SPEAKER_08] at the end of the day it is you know what i mean it felt like it felt like that reason was more so like honestly the whole thing to me felt like you just really wanted to bring devins yeah and you were like trying to find the right reason to make it make sense that's the vibe i got i think it was

[02:42:16] [SPEAKER_03] like a little bit of both yeah i think like i wanted devins there because like he's super fun to hang out with then i was like there's gonna be a week of this game where like taylor and d would just like hang out and like leave me alone i'd be like uh that's gonna be a really long week and i was like i want to hang out with devins because i love him so much but also i was like d's so good at endurance i felt like i could totally see her like she's very like physically fit i could be like

[02:42:41] [SPEAKER_03] oh she would like crush the first part of that endurance comp and she wasn't willing to drop i probably could have won it anyways um but yeah i can go back and forth about it all day and be like what should i have done but like i'm just gonna stand by my decision and be like yeah like i got rid of d who like never would have taken me and i kept devins who probably it was like 90 chance he would take me and then like 10 chance he was like wait never mind even though he would

[02:43:07] [SPEAKER_08] have won against me yeah yeah i mean there's there's an argument to be made that if the season is shorter there's not like extra days tacked on he takes you maybe well but then she just made that move

[02:43:19] [SPEAKER_03] earlier yeah and i think that was such a good play i don't even think it would have worked if she went out there and told like yash they would be like no no of course not

[02:43:30] [SPEAKER_08] well i don't know if you know exactly how it went down but basically he tried to use that argument on her yeah he was like i'm gonna do this to you and she's like fuck off yeah and then she realized wait

[02:43:38] [SPEAKER_03] i always do that if he thinks that can work let me tell it yeah no killer that was like such a good play i was all right yeah it cost me some money but uh fallen angel at third it is what it is i i think i was on a lot of borrowed time that whole game like i should have been out uh i think the only way i could

[02:43:56] [SPEAKER_08] have made it that far was like just one of those columns yeah i mean i think every every veto or blockbuster you won was necessary for your survival yeah uh no you know except for the first one

[02:44:09] [SPEAKER_03] the first one i would have been okay but the other four i was yeah

[02:44:13] [SPEAKER_08] yeah that's what it is but that's why taking out comp threats is so important yeah you know that's why voting out commie when you had the chance was important that's why voting out yash when you had

[02:44:23] [SPEAKER_03] the chance was important yeah because i'm voting out devins might have been more important yeah no i could totally see that yeah yeah but uh it's cool now i'm a forever third placer

[02:44:35] [SPEAKER_08] well we'll see i'm sure listen you've already done a bunch of shows before hey man maybe i can uh

[02:44:40] [SPEAKER_03] maybe i can win something else i'm maybe going survivor and when that i want to be like what's up devins yeah now i have one i don't know i don't like my odds on survivor well we talked about this

[02:44:50] [SPEAKER_08] because like devins really it haunted him that he lost so close to the end of survivor yeah and he made the wrong move by doing something very similar to what you did which is like keeping chris because he was like this gives me a better shot and then chris is the reason he loses because he did the fire and

[02:45:07] [SPEAKER_03] it was like like father's history repeats itself yeah i know it's like he ricked evans to me yeah yeah it's kind of awesome um in a way it's poetic yeah maybe i'll get my shit my chance or we'll see

[02:45:21] [SPEAKER_08] it was a very emotional moment uh when he cuts you yeah um you look there's been many memes of like

[02:45:28] [SPEAKER_03] you as a soldier like dude i love that i love those ones but that's me i think during mallory's vote like my voted out mallory oh yeah yeah but there is a lot of like he's here he is again just being

[02:45:39] [SPEAKER_08] sad how are you how are you feeling now with all i mean it's it's very fresh yeah still um i don't i don't think you've had a moment to like really like let it sink in take it in yet but like

[02:45:54] [SPEAKER_03] what is your current feeling like on the whole situation with everything how are you feeling i mean dude i was eight years old watching big brother like all i wanted to do was play and i got to play and i got to play 87 days of the game i got to play every minute i only was 20 minutes outside of the house where like i wasn't in the house um playing so like the fact that especially now learning that like i should have been gone like week seven is like oh i was really playing on borrowed time so i was like

[02:46:24] [SPEAKER_03] having a lot of fun because i don't think there was a day in the house that didn't have fun i was just like screwing around hanging out with my friends and uh getting third it's like hey man like you got to finale night like that's all you could ask for especially as a fan because like fans don't really do too well in the show you usually get clipped pretty quick um and do i am i mad at devins for

[02:46:48] [SPEAKER_03] doing that like i think like he said like he's gotta give himself the best shot even though i think he was good no matter who he sat next to i think uh you don't want to take any more unnecessary risk especially when you're that close so i was like all right dude and i love the game and like sitting on the block next to taylor i'm like there's such an easy choice here like i'm obviously the one that he should get

[02:47:13] [SPEAKER_03] rid of like if you're looking at it at like a standpoint of like who's more likely to get more than one vote like in in my mind i was like probably got melody and like in a world maybe i got barrett and like maybe taylor's gonna be like butthurt that like he got rid of her so it's just like whatever and i love the game so much so i'm like i'm gonna vote for the person i think played the best and like

[02:47:38] [SPEAKER_03] was involved a lot and i was like it's always gonna vote for devins yeah yeah so i mean i got a pretty attitude about it a lot of like bb alumni have been like hey like how are you feeling and i'm like maybe i should be feeling worse and maybe i will like once everything like dies down i'm like man that sucks but right now i'm like just so grateful to play because like dude only 16 people get to play every summer yeah it's like unreal the fact that i got to especially at the age of 22. so i'm like

[02:48:06] [SPEAKER_03] you can you there's only you could be mad about the way it turned out but i'm more happy the fact that i got to even play yeah that's kind of where i'm at that is a good ad too yeah yeah yeah that's it's worth hey man it was a dream to play it's such a cool full circle moment for me especially because my mom learned how to speak english on it and i got to play the whole time and she watched me 87 days honestly felt like i learned a lot in the house too i felt like i actually people were like yeah you

[02:48:35] [SPEAKER_03] like grew up in there it felt like and i looked at i watched the first episode like two days ago and i was like i don't even look like you literally look different i looked visibly different yeah and like genuinely grew up a lot learned a lot and i don't think there's a single person that was in that house that i like would never talk to again like i can't wait to like hang out with all of them like i love all of them yeah and they all like you know help me mature and grow up so i got to grow up

[02:49:00] [SPEAKER_08] in big brother house my first roommates all right well anything else you wanted to bring up or talk about

[02:49:08] [SPEAKER_03] i think no i don't think so all right well true we've done it we did it we did the full uh

[02:49:16] [SPEAKER_08] how long was it how long was this like five i don't know we've been recording for like six hours geez well i had fun i'm glad yeah uh well thanks for coming out i i hope uh i hope you enjoyed the uh the the look back i hope it it you know i think it it can often feel i think good to go back cathartic uh but also sometimes you know you're hearing about some things you're like oh fuck that that sucks to

[02:49:41] [SPEAKER_03] hear yeah yeah there's a lot of stuff i'm like ah that's not ideal i think at the end of the day

[02:49:46] [SPEAKER_08] though it's like none of it was like super personal yeah especially from like devins you know like i think there's a lot of probably stuff that you learned that was like oh devins was clearly not nearly as much on my side as i thought um but like devins was just like a mercenary in that game like that was just true of everyone you know uh and it's because he's played twice before he knows

[02:50:11] [SPEAKER_08] what it's like to lose he knows yeah he's gonna make those decisions you know uh and it's it's tough to be in the position of like this being your first fresh experience and not having that sort of like

[02:50:22] [SPEAKER_03] hardened callousness oh dude there were cutthroat i said in the beginning and they i like foreshadowed my own demise but um i mean it is what it is so much at the end of the day it's a game and i don't i generally don't think anything's personal i haven't taken anything personal um i actually love when people are like in the dr saying i'm spineless and calling me a weasel i think it's really fun because like already outside of it we're just like oh my god i killed me if i said that that's so funny like

[02:50:48] [SPEAKER_03] we're just laughing about it so i love everybody in there anything they said about me i'm just like that's super funny thank you for being creative and being funny about it because that's the way i see it yeah all right thanks for uh being anything to plug i mean you guys want to follow my instagram underscore drew dot campbell underscore and then my super cool tiktok drew campbell 69 thanks

[02:51:16] [SPEAKER_08] okay super mature i grew up halfway all right well uh thank you all for joining us i hope you enjoyed the deep dive uh you can see i've got a book about big brother uh check out my patreon also i'm doing a lot of i'm right now drew i uh i'm such a masochist i started a re-watch of big brother 2 for my patreon where i'm go i'm digging through the live feed archives of like people talking about the life

[02:51:42] [SPEAKER_08] these at the time and i'm doing daily live feed updates on big brother too dude that is like

[02:51:46] [SPEAKER_03] 2001 2000 yeah you're digging up all that yep yep that is uh i'm glad you're doing it not me yeah it's it's rough stuff but hey you know it's dr will it is dr will yeah

[02:51:58] [SPEAKER_08] the evil doctors three lost out there chapter two yeah yeah all right thank you all so much i will see you uh maybe within the next week or maybe other

[02:52:12] [SPEAKER_15] thank you so much both of you guys everybody watching i was an avenger but i'm not a hero anymore the vision returns for the final chapter of the groundbreaking trilogy that family wasn't real

[02:52:37] [SPEAKER_15] you sure about that i had a father called vision how is this possible don't miss the two episode

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