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[00:00:55] Hey, Rob Cesternino here getting you ready for this little free preview of a patron podcast that we're going to do every week here during the Big Brother season when Taryn Armstrong and I answer patron call-ins on the BBQ&A.
[00:01:11] Every Friday, Taryn and I are going to get together at 3pm Eastern to take calls from our patrons. And here in week one, the feeds have just been on for 24 hours and we want to share with you how much fun we have on the BBQ&A.
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[00:02:08] Hey, everybody. What's going on? Rob Cesternino back with you for... Back for, I believe our fourth season. It's the patron Big Brother Q&A and back here with us a man who is so back. Here he is part of a marathon 24 hours of streaming.
[00:02:32] It's Tyrone Armstrong. Tyrone, how are you? I'm getting through Rob. Yeah, good for you. Okay. We're here to take patron calls here and we have been doing this for four years on Big Brother.
[00:02:47] This past Survivor season, I feel like was the best patron call-in show that we had done for Survivor. And I hope to keep that momentum coming into the Big Brother season. We had a lot of fun on Fridays during the Survivor season.
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[00:04:25] All right, Taren, the feeds came on in the wee hours of the morning here for us on the East Coast last night. We've had about, what, 14 hours of feeds at this point. You have been awake through all of them. Also a live feed update this morning.
[00:04:41] Also a conversation with Ben and Adam from Jetlag that we just did earlier today. Very fun podcast. First off, forget the feeds. How are you? I'm tired, Rob. You know, where it's, this is the last podcast recording and then I can like actually take a moment perhaps.
[00:05:06] But, you know, listen, it's also exciting. It's exciting. Adrenaline? Yeah. It's Big Brothers, the start of the season.
[00:05:14] All right. So you want to give us just a quick lay of the land right now in case anybody has not yet gotten to the live feed update from this morning. With you and Pooja. Yes, we have an HOH winner. Yep. And that is Angela. Okay.
[00:05:32] She intends slash intended to target Kenny with Kimo and Lisa as pawns because she's nominating three people. There's going to be two chances to come off the block, theoretically. Something called the AI arena as well as the veto.
[00:05:55] There's, I think, potentially room for a fourth nominee to exist. I'm not entirely sure how. Yeah. However, there's kind of an opposing side of the house that is led by Matt and McKenzie. They call her MJ. And Angela was a little worried about Matt last night.
[00:06:15] And since we've been podcasting today, she's gotten more confirmation that Matt and McKenzie are conspiring against her. And there was a discussion about should we nominate them or should I nominate them? Should I nominate one of them? Should I backdoor one of them?
[00:06:35] I believe the current conclusion is stick to the plan for now. Introduce a backdoor later, given that there's so many variables in the way with the twists. And I believe that's about where we are roughly. Okay. So we're going to be taking your calls here today.
[00:06:58] And why don't we get things started with a great friend of the podcast. Let's bring in Amanda Danforth. Amanda, how are you? Oh my god. What an honor. Yes. I'm so excited to be here. Yes. Renap, Associate Producer. Amanda is here. Hi. Okay. Amanda, what's happening?
[00:07:17] Well, this is like my time of year. I'm a teacher. So it's summer. So I have lots and lots of time to tune into the live feeds. It's hard without the rewind now.
[00:07:28] So I'm really excited to have the live feed updates because I cannot stay up that late still, even though it's summertime for a school teacher. Can't make it. So I'm definitely going to be tuning into all those this summer.
[00:07:39] I was hoping to talk a little bit today about Chelsea and Cedric and about their downgrade situation. It seemed like after we heard about all of the downgrades they were receiving last night, there was an overwhelming sense of, well, they're going on the block because they've
[00:07:58] been so downgraded. If I was in that situation, Angela's situation as HOH, was it so cruel that they ended up being safe from being nominated this week? It seems like there were so many downgrades that anybody who would put them up would be like, that's kind of...
[00:08:20] And I love social strategy games. So I totally see why you would want to do this. But then also, do people look at you and think like, wow, that was really harsh of her to put them both on the block?
[00:08:34] I mean, I think it's entirely dependent on the sort of social norms that are developed in the house. And if you're in power, you can kind of create them if you want. But it's really just about what are the rules that we are all collectively agreeing to follow?
[00:08:54] If the rules that we're going to follow are, I shouldn't get blood on my hands. I have no other reason. You know, a lot of the time it's like first person out of the comp, they should be nominated. Why? Because they were the weakest in the comp?
[00:09:08] Because they did the worst? Like, that's not very fun. That's not very fair. But if you can sell it, then it can work. So I think there's absolutely a world where you can sell this. It's, hey, sorry guys. This is kind of what the show seems to want.
[00:09:29] You guys lost the comp. It only makes sense to nominate you. And listen, I have to nominate a third person. You can campaign. There's still opportunity for you to survive. I think it really just depends on how you sell it.
[00:09:46] Yeah, I felt like it's a really tone-setting opportunity for how the rest of the game might go. If Angela gets up in her nomination speech and she says something about, I felt like it would be too harsh to nominate Chelsea and Cedric. And so does that set the...
[00:10:08] I'm just kind of curious about how Angela's handling of her nominations could set the tone for the next couple of weeks. It's an interesting point. How do you feel about each other? It would be kind of wild.
[00:10:19] Even though Angela has won the first HOH, and I don't believe we know what the competition was, for her to say, well, I'm putting up the people who did the worst in the comps.
[00:10:29] I feel like that Angela probably, in most competitions, is probably not going to be a very strong finisher, especially if they're very physical comps, to sort of introduce that methodology of, hey, you did bad in the comps. So that's why you're up on the block.
[00:10:49] She probably does not want that to be a way that people decide their HOHs. Yeah, I think this... Her choosing to not nominate them, or has she said that she won't nominate them because of that yet on the live feeds?
[00:11:04] Or is she just kind of going in another direction? No, I believe it was Quinn that really said it. He felt like it would be lame and unfair or cruel to do that. And I don't think she was even in that conversation.
[00:11:17] But the reality is she's aligned with both Cedric and Chelsea. So regardless of their downgrade or upgrade status, I don't think she intended to nominate either one. Well, and props to Chelsea and Cedric for being in this downgraded situation and being a part of this nine-person alliance.
[00:11:37] And it seems like Chelsea actually has a lot... I was just kind of catching up on what's been happening this morning. It seems like Chelsea has been connecting a lot with Angela specifically about Matt and AJ this morning.
[00:11:48] So props to the two of them for being in a downgraded situation and being a part of the majority alliance, even though they don't have a vote. So that's going to be interesting too. For sure.
[00:12:02] The other thing I just wanted to say, that was my main question for the day. I think it's going to be a really interesting setup to how the next couple of weeks might go. Overall, like feeling and vibes of the house, the vibe setter, curator, whatever is happening.
[00:12:15] I just wanted to say thank you for putting me on to Jetlag. I completely just, I had no idea what it was. And I've like been seeing the podcast here and there about them, but I was like, it's a YouTube show. I don't know.
[00:12:29] But then I completely binge watched Jetlag Australia all day yesterday and I'm so sold on it. It is amazing. It's incredible, really great production. So, and great game design. So thanks for putting me onto that. Did you catch the last podcast we just did, Amanda?
[00:12:46] I'm a teacher on summer break. I have Twitch on my TV just going all day. All day. Okay. All right. Yeah. So yeah, really appreciate it. Adam and Ben being with us to talk about the two hours of Big Brother premiere and give their thoughts on that.
[00:13:03] Yeah, they're great takes. Okay. All right. Amanda, thank you so much. Okay. Thank you. Bye. All right. So we're going to start with Corey without the E. Okay. Corey, without the E, how are you? I'm good. I'm getting over pneumonia, but I'm good. Okay. Doing good.
[00:13:22] Corey, is this your first time calling in? It is. Yes, I've been a patron for about four years. I always lurk on everything, Reddit, Discord, all that. I never really participate in the interactions and had some time today, figured I'd hop on. Cool.
[00:13:36] Well, really love to hear from you. It's been so nice knowing that you were out there this whole time and we finally just get to talk to you. Yes. Yeah.
[00:13:45] Like I said, I actually bought tickets to go to the Survivor Chicago show you guys had, but ended up incredibly sick during that as well. So I had to pass on that too, which was really unfortunate. So I hope to go to the next Chicago one.
[00:13:55] Very happy to hear that you're doing better now. Corey, what's going on? Not a lot. I was actually just on here. I've been thinking a lot about the 17th house guest situation. And I know Rob, that's really a touchy subject. Yeah.
[00:14:07] Shouldn't they let the 17th house guest in? Do we think that there's going to be one? Because I know they keep talking about this weird like eviction nominations twist.
[00:14:15] And I just felt very confident going into this season with all of the wording and the phrasing that there was going to be a 17th. And then with the overwhelming vote of no, like that kind of do we think that ruined production's plan?
[00:14:27] And they had to kind of change last minute. Was there ever a plan for a 17th? There was this stupid AI twist. What do you think, Taryn? There was this stupid AI twist. I know. I don't want to be that naive.
[00:14:41] I was really hoping that there was like, after the success of like Sari last season, I had hopes of like maybe another Traders-esque or something. I don't know. And then with the weird thing they did with all the influencers on Instagram with the mini thing.
[00:14:55] I love you guys saw that. Like it was, I was just not sure what they were going there. No, I don't think we're getting the 17th house guest. I mean, I'll believe it when Spoiler Girl says it. That was really, I'm really looking forward to this.
[00:15:10] I've kind of been a feeds watcher since I've been a patron and it's like I took a year off a couple of years. Just kind of really relied primarily on you, Taryn, for the updates with work and everything. The podcast I listen to every day, patron podcasts.
[00:15:22] Like if it wasn't for you guys, I would probably not be as, I went to lean as cities too. I just saw what Eric Meyer said. I was really excited for the possible drag queen on Big Brother, but not going to happen. Yeah. All right.
[00:15:35] Well, look, expect the unexpected, you know, could happen, but we're not expecting it to. Yeah, that was all I had for you guys. I appreciate it. All right. Thanks for calling in. Yeah, thank you. Take care. All right. Bye. Okay.
[00:15:52] Let's say hello to Addison is here with us today. Okay. Addison. Hello. How are you? Taking some time in the middle of packing to move. So crazy outside of that. Is it a big move? Yes. Okay. Where are you going? Down to Boston. All right. All right.
[00:16:16] Well, good luck with all that, Addison. Thank you. Okay. So wanted to say first as an existing fan of Jetlag, I have so enjoyed them becoming part of like the Rapaza podcast extended universe.
[00:16:28] And I really hope as long as Ben and or Adam weren't too traumatized by Ainsley, the AI that they will come back and do an episode recap at some point. Although I understand if they want to watch their hands. Can I imagine they're hooked now because of you?
[00:16:47] I'd be apologizing for years. Okay. I want to ask because I know Taryn gets on this a lot, especially with saying that they were thinking about, oh, should we target Matt and or MJ? But with this whole three nominee AI arena, who knows what's going on?
[00:17:10] Is this the earliest in a season that we've ever seen potential fun gameplay stifled by wanting to play safe because there's twists going on and we're not sure what's happening?
[00:17:22] I mean, earliest ever would be would be tough to remember off the top of my head, but it's definitely early and it's definitely annoying. Yeah. Taryn, are you feeling like that they are stifled because of that? They don't know what's coming with the twists.
[00:17:36] That seems to be part of the reasoning that they backed off of the making a bigger move. Are they aware of all the twists that were advertised? I don't remember the end of the episode, what they got told versus what we got told.
[00:17:51] They I mean, they know more than we do at this point because we haven't seen future episodes, but they know that there is something called the AI arena. They know something. They know more about the nomination structure.
[00:18:05] And given that things are so changed in the first place, I think they're also just anticipating that like who knows what could happen at this point.
[00:18:12] Right. And Julie said at the end of the second episode, like, oh, and Ainsley is going to change up eviction night and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Do we think is that the AI arena? Is there something else coming?
[00:18:24] Is it just going to be like prejury battle back or something? Or do we have any frame of reference to know what that is as of now? Who knows? As in what do you want AI arena to be? I don't. Yeah. I don't know it.
[00:18:43] I mean, it's been a while since we've had a third nominee to us. So I guess, you know, that's something. But still, it just it's so overcomplicated. And if there's also something coming that's affecting the evictions, that's not just like a battle back or something.
[00:19:00] Do we need all of these things all at once? Like at a certain point, can we just let people play Big Brother? Maybe, you know, two, three weeks in, toss something and start mixing stuff up.
[00:19:12] But like we can't have one week where they just get to sort stuff out. I don't know. Sorry, Addison. What Big Brother needed was more competition. More competition, more AI, more twists. They're not unseen. Yeah. What are you going to do? All right.
[00:19:33] Well, Addison, good luck with the move. OK, thank you. All right. Take care. All right. Bye. All right. Let's say hello to our old friend. Aisha is here. Hey, Aisha. How are you? How you been? I'm great. I'm up, waiting on food, waiting on food. You're awake, though.
[00:19:55] I am awake, I think. You think? That's better than, you know, being a zombie. Or a zombie week. Yes. Let's not do that again. All right. So Aisha, what's happening? I really just wanted to say hi. I'm just so excited for Big Brother. You love Big Brother.
[00:20:16] I do. I do. For me, that set the tone. I had so much fun watching The Pressure Cooker. I can't imagine how tired you guys were. I crashed at like two and woke up, and I kind of thought it would still be going.
[00:20:28] It was a little surprise to see that you were done. But very happy with the result. Mary might have still been going. I think she could have still been going. The fact that she could use her arm, the one that she was holding like this all day.
[00:20:40] She went to Topgolf. Yes. Incredible. Incredible. Yeah. I like this cast, though. I am hopeful, mostly, that it will go well this season. But we shall see. No one's been on TMZ yet. And I feel like that is a win for everybody. Yeah, not yet.
[00:21:00] Aisha, do you have a favorite player so far this season? I really like Quinn. I think that Quinn seems to have a lot of knowledge about the game. He seems very fun. And just not the typical person we'd see in his, what do they call those?
[00:21:17] His little box of what kind. Yeah. Thank you. In his archetype. So I think that will be fun. I also am really surprised by Leah. When I watched the cast draft or the initial impressions, as soon as I saw Leah, I just thought recruit.
[00:21:34] But it seems like she is way more than meets the eye. So I'm interested to see how that goes. Yeah. All right. A lot of people in the chat are wondering, are you who you say you are? Is A.I.A. taking over the house?
[00:21:49] A.I.A. is learning to shape and make surfboards. Yes. I have a surf shop in my backyard. Didn't you know? Yes. Yep. It's your dream to be on Big Brother. If there was not the Internet and social media, absolutely. OK. But now that I'm the AI bot,
[00:22:10] I don't have to deal with social media. I can write it however I want it to go. Yeah. All right. Well, A.I.A., great to have you back. OK, I'm sure we'll be hearing more from you during the season. Yes.
[00:22:24] Yes, I will be listening and watching every day with Taryn. All the recaps. I'm just very excited. Thank you guys so much. All right. Talk to you later. Bye. Bye. OK, let's say hello to Joanna. OK. Or Johanna. Johanna. OK, I will hit that first H harder. OK.
[00:22:49] Yes. Nice to meet you guys. I like Corey with an E. I'm also like a lurker on all this stuff. Cool. We love to hear from the people that we love to hear from new people. But also, like it's I think it's always such a fun surprise of
[00:23:04] like like, yeah, I've been listening for a very long time and this is my first time calling in. Yeah. I'm a big fan of the show. Yes, love, love, love. That's like my favorite show. So try to try it out. Where in the world are you?
[00:23:19] I'm in New Jersey. Cool. OK, love New Jersey. Love the bagels pizza. Got to. All right. So what's going on? My main question is, who do you guys think is like a sleeper pick? Because I feel like most of the people are giving me what I
[00:23:37] want, but I feel like most of the people are like coming out from under the woodworks. Maybe. Yeah. Karen, this is an interesting question. If you had to basically redraw the draft and you had the number one pick, who do you who would you have taken today?
[00:23:50] The number one pick. So not even like underrated. Yeah. But like, yeah, number one overall pick. I mean, right now it's it's probably like like you were a cute, cute winner, Chelsea. OK. Yeah. Yeah. After the live feed update this morning, I was thinking
[00:24:13] Brooklyn, even though she was a little sus in the preseason stuff. I think the conversation with Angela was really underrated. So I'm excited to see if she can maybe prove us wrong. Yeah. I famously drafted the 17th house guest, the A.I., which
[00:24:27] did turn out to be quite a bust. But I feel like if I was going to make a pick in that spot, I do feel like that Chelsea was somebody I was I had an eye on. Yeah. I mean, I think she's a great host.
[00:24:41] I think she's a great host. Definitely. Well, thanks for letting me in and great to chat with you guys. Excited to see what else comes up. Yeah. OK. Great to chat with you two. Don't be a stranger. OK. Definitely. I'll be back. OK. All right. Thank you, Johanna.
[00:25:07] I'm going to get off camera, though. Yes. OK. Let us know how business is doing. Not well. I'm in the middle of Arkansas. So what's new, Sarah? Well, I've been running a lot of meetings today, so I'm in agenda mode. So I've got a little bit of agenda.
[00:25:28] What I would like to discuss. Please. First, I want to talk a little bit about my personal knowledge of that proto hologram box that they have in the house. And I'm going to make my patron pitch to all the listeners who aren't part of the Patriots.
[00:25:40] It sound like an OK agenda? Yes, please. All right. So that hologram box in the house that Chin Bot showed up in the pre showed up in in the previews and blue fake Ainsley is in right now. Yeah. So we actually have one of those in northwest Arkansas.
[00:26:01] So Jewel, who like singer Jewel, has an art exhibit going on here. And it's hard. You know, singer Jewel. No, you don't know who will save your soul. Oh, anyway, she was she was big back when I was in junior high many, many years ago.
[00:26:20] So she has an art exhibit here. Car at one point, right? Living in her car, went to Juilliard and then became a big Y2K late 90s singer, songwriter, folk singer type. Who is that a pretty long career, but it's certainly not at the height of her powers.
[00:26:41] So that's why you tune into the podcast. Right. Yeah. No, I know somebody who for a very long time has been working like in the hologram industry. And he texted me that that I think this was his company that did the Julie, the Julie Chen
[00:26:55] Big Brother hologram box. So, yeah. Oh, OK. I've seen that in person. I just think of it as a very, very high definition television. I don't know what they could do with it in the future, but it seems to be like the hot popping up thing that's
[00:27:13] happening, including our favorite, you know, 90s musicians. Yeah. So, yeah, we'll see. Hopefully they do something cooler with it. You know, Taryn, is there a way like, could they put like the past house guests, like have them host competitions and like do it, do it
[00:27:29] that way? But I kind of feel like they could do it in a studio, like if they're going to get them to like like it's like I think that the biggest thing you could do with it is like if you could film somebody
[00:27:40] in Los Angeles and beam them to a different place. But if they're already in Los Angeles, I guess they could just send them in. I feel like if they were going to do something cooler with it, we wouldn't have gotten Blue Ainsley.
[00:27:54] Yeah. Well, here's a do we think that they're going to put Dr. Will Kirby in the box? He's still going to require the same like fee to make the appearance in the box as opposed to in the house. Yeah, it'd be a higher fee. Yeah.
[00:28:11] Yeah. Have his likeness recorded. OK, Sarah. OK. Number two on your agenda. The question. So Adam and Ben touched on this in the podcast earlier, which fantastic podcast. If you all if you haven't listened to that podcast, go in, go into your Spotify, YouTube and listen.
[00:28:29] They touched on this, that production was straight up lying to the house guests about the twist. And I know we've had instances in the past like, oh, we've got a twist and it's changing. But I can't recall a time where Big Brother has said this
[00:28:46] is the thing and then it's absolutely not the thing. Taryn, do you have any recollection of that type of bait and switch from production in the past? And what are your thoughts on this lying to the houseguests? Well, there was that hamster question in Big Brother 9.
[00:29:04] Oh my gosh, for Taryn. Big Brother Canada did this quite a few times, of course, even more blatantly. But but yeah, I mean, I would say that they're not they don't make it a habit to outright lie to their their contestants. But, you know, it's it's not
[00:29:23] something that they've like completely shied away from in the past. I mean, I don't think that this was egregious. I mean, that they asked a question of like, do you want this person to come in? Yes or no. Maybe they could have said like and remember like like
[00:29:41] it would be not a very neighborly thing to do like like a you know, it would remember to love one another. You know, maybe they could have given them like a little bit of a hint that it was in their game's interest to vote yes for Ainsley.
[00:29:57] But the people who, you know, voted voted for her to come in like got the chance to compete for an advantage. So it doesn't seem like that this was, you know, necessarily like that, you know, you were asked like, hey, you know, competing this competition like the Survivor
[00:30:14] Hourglass was like probably the most egregious that we've seen where you win a competition and you actually are not safe as opposed to the people who lost the competition and that were safe. Yeah, I think if they had added like a little bit more
[00:30:27] element, like maybe mole style, like if you vote this house guest in, maybe something's added to the prize pot. I think if they had put that in there and given a little bit more like skin in the game on that bat instead of just saying is she
[00:30:40] in or not? I think that that would have made it a little bit more intriguing instead of just like, do you want them in or not? But, you know, we've got so many most style games right now that, you know, they don't want to be copycats, of course.
[00:30:54] Yeah, never. All right. I will I will go to my patron pitch. When Ben and Adam came on the podcast, they were like, why are you watching this show? And the first two episodes, I thought episode two was better because I like the cast on night
[00:31:10] two, how they presented them better, but got me thinking, why am I watching this season after season? And this is why I watch season after season, because it's one thing to just watch the show, watch the feeds and be in your own little box.
[00:31:24] But it is so much fun connecting with people across the country and the world to give you new perspectives on the game and just interact. And these are people that you get to meet in real life at the RHAP live events. So I initially signed up with a
[00:31:40] patron because I wanted the bonus content, which is great. But stick around. We have a blast and invest your money in the content that you like. You're here because you like watching this. So I hope you join us. Yeah, I appreciate that, Sarah. And look, we would
[00:31:57] love if everybody, you know, wanted had the interest and the means to become a patron. But, you know, there this community is here in the chat. You know, we really try to like cultivate a nice experience for people as opposed to maybe what
[00:32:13] you might find in some of the other social media channels. And so especially within the patron walls of the Facebook and the Discord. But even like here in the chat, in the comments, we really want this to be a nice experience for
[00:32:28] everybody to be able to come in and be able to talk about this wild ride that we do for all we complain about. We're very lucky to get it every summer. Absolutely. This is so much better than going into the Facebook comments on the Big Brother page
[00:32:45] and don't ever do that. If you have not done that, still don't do that. But make sure you like and subscribe. That's completely free. And we have a good time here. So that's all I've got today. OK. All right. Sarah, thank you so much.
[00:32:59] Thank you. Y'all have a good one. All right. Talk to you later. OK. All right. Let's say hello to. Oh, OK. All right. Let's bring in Minnows and Minnow. We just met Minnows a couple of weeks ago. A new Big Brother fan. Minnow, are you there?
[00:33:21] Oh, my gosh. Hi. Can you hear me? I hear you. I don't see you. I don't know why all of a sudden. You want to try to. Why don't you go out of the stream yard and come back in and then. OK.
[00:33:34] I'll come back. I'll come back to you after that. OK. All right. Let's say hello to Kyle. Hey, Kyle. This is awesome. I've been looking for a while, so it's really awesome that actually here. This is awesome, Kyle. I second the community thing.
[00:33:49] I mean, I met both of you briefly in Brea and it was really, really fun. And it was also really fun just going to the Survivor Night one night where it was super exciting. And then Big Brother the day after was the opposite.
[00:34:04] Well, I think it had more to do with like the point in the game. I think it was the Cere reboot episode. So it was a little bit of like the vibe of a funeral of OK, Cere's not going to win. Yeah. Pretty fun to watch. Yeah.
[00:34:17] Pretty fun getting both sides of the fandom there. Yeah. But it was a wild night for sure. The Survivor Night when Caleb hit the shot in the dark. I'll never forget that. My main thing was actually wanted to talk about the podcast right before this.
[00:34:34] I just wanted to say that was maybe the most cathartic podcast that I maybe ever listened to because it is so difficult to get people into this show. It feels like a whole separate social strategy in itself of just trying to figure out how to get
[00:34:50] people to actually watch. Have you found had any success, Kyle? Last year I did. I told Aaron this at the live show and he was just like, I am very happy about that, but also I am so sorry considering the point of the game.
[00:35:10] But I actually was curious when your advice was on that front because I go back to the old episodes or previous seasons. It can be a bit tricky because it's just episodes and you don't have the feeds. The live shows are what make it so
[00:35:25] fun and the feeds in the community. But it's also a huge time commitment. That's the tricky part. Yeah, I think honestly the easiest way to break people in, so to speak, is to show them an older season. And I think that's the biggest
[00:35:44] thing is to show them an older season. Because even though you only get live feeds or you get episodes, a season like Season 10, it's great to watch just the episodes. It's fine. It's going to be a fun experience. And then once you're bought in,
[00:36:02] you can watch the live episodes and have the experience. As we just saw, if you try to get somebody to watch the first six books, they'll watch the two premiere nights and be like, what are we doing here? Why would I invest more time in this?
[00:36:24] You're like somebody trying to recommend a fantasy series where you're like, the first six books suck, but I'm telling you by the time you get to the seventh one, it's going to be great. No, no, no. Just show them the good stuff first. I think that's the easiest.
[00:36:37] Yeah. And I got my 10-year-old watching season one and night two. So that's, you know, like if you're trying to get young people to watch the show, something about it appeals to them. Yeah, it's a start, definitely. And my other question has to do with Kimo specifically
[00:36:58] because you mentioned in the live feed update that he's a little bit more reserved and that can be out of like hesitance on speaking game, about game. And I'm curious how how you would go about because we've seen in previous seasons where the super fans
[00:37:16] get like targeted pretty early on. And I'm curious, how do you think people should like talk strategy without like letting their super fan out? If that's something that you'd be a good strategy? I think it's just I think it's very situational. You just have to match the vibes
[00:37:36] of the people that you're talking to as best as you can. You know, if if people aren't talking strategy with you, it can be hard to breach the topic. You have to be very cautious. I mean, it's very much like flirting, really.
[00:37:51] Like you, you really like you have to be very careful. And once you start matching each other's vibe like that's when things really get going. Maybe be a vibe curator. Exactly. So Lisa must be great at it. But, you know, you definitely want to try it like
[00:38:09] the ideal kind of in is you start talking personal stuff and you transition that connection to game. If you don't make the transition to game, the conversation might actually hurt you because it's like we talked personal stuff, but then we didn't talk game.
[00:38:25] That's worse to me than somebody I haven't had a chance to talk to yet because like, you know, I'm not a person who's like I'm not a person who's like, I'm not going to talk to you. I'm not going to talk to you.
[00:38:37] It's just like a weird thing to me because like, you know, why didn't they want to talk game with me? They must be talking with other people or maybe they just don't like it's there. There's an insecurity there that that will hurt you a lot because
[00:38:50] game is what will make people feel secure with you. Yeah. It seems like that was the case with Angela last night, but it seems like she's kind of said that a little bit. We'll see if it sticks. I'm keeping an eye on that. This is great.
[00:39:04] All right. Thank you. OK, take care, Kyle. OK. All right. Bye. OK. All right. Let's go back to Minnow. OK. Minnow, any luck? No luck with the camera? You could just talk. People don't have to have their camera on. Oh, here you are.
[00:39:20] Oh my gosh. There I am. Hi. I'm so excited to be here. Minnow, can you just give Taryn your like 60 second reality TV backstory because it's fascinating. This is the third time you've been on the show. I was so shocked at hearing you retell it to other people.
[00:39:37] I was like, wow, you remember? It's unforgettable. So I had just literally heard someone mention in a drag race video like, oh, this person's playing like they're playing Survivor and I just run out of drag race to watch. So I decided to watch Survivor.
[00:39:51] And so I started episode five of season 46 and I really enjoyed it. And in June also, I got very bored. And so I listened to all of your updates in like two weeks. So because I'm not even watching the season, I watched like two episodes.
[00:40:08] I got such strong secondhand embarrassment like I couldn't handle it. So I just checked out a lot of these updates and I loved it. I love social sciences and relationship mapping and alliances, stuff like that's so interesting to me. So this is my first proper season. That's awesome.
[00:40:25] Yeah. OK. Yeah. So this is your first live season. Now, are you watching the episodes or are you just here for like you like it was the first live feed update and this is like basically your premiere. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm putting myself through the our our self
[00:40:39] put upon torture, as it sounds like essentially. But I'm having fun. I mean, I just like being a part of a new community. So and I also started out in college as a video editing major. That's actually my portfolio as in video. I didn't got me into college
[00:40:55] and then I switched to legal communication and stuff. So it's interesting the dynamic that you guys are speaking about on the podcast with the jet lag people about turning it into a show. And that's what I'm actually really excited. I mean, when I woke up today, I was
[00:41:09] I woke up at 5 a.m. and I was like, live feeds. OK, I've been let's go already very interested in it. So, yeah, I'm it's I think the campiness of it and then also just being interested in video editing and all these other things
[00:41:25] that aren't really the show is kind of what attracts me to it. Yeah. Wow. Well, you got a very special chatter Ainsley in the chat who I'm sorry, Ainsley. It's never not going to be funny to hear what you have to say. Binge only the updates.
[00:41:40] I love this. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, it was a great time. It was a good time. I had a lot of free time. So I just graduated. So. All right. I love to hear that it works. Yeah. I wasn't even in the page during any
[00:41:57] of this. I was just sitting in my room. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, from the end of March to now, Minnow has consumed like a years and years of reality TV. I feel a lot of passion for for anything I get into. I love research.
[00:42:14] That's by that's basically how I what my references, my skills are. I'm very specifically good at this. That's what I do my work mostly. Yeah. So, I mean, I just did the same thing for this stuff. OK. So did you have a question, Minnow?
[00:42:30] Yeah. So I thought a really stupid one. I just thought it might be fun to ask in terms of. There's no stupid questions. So for me, Rob, you and I. Well, yeah. Good point. But Rob, you and I, my first draft pick was the 17th House Guest.
[00:42:47] I still don't regret it. I still don't regret it. I still don't regret anything. Yeah. But, you know, I've also got like a sure thing. And Chelsea on my team. It's not looking great for me. Chelsea Tarrant was looking good. Yeah. Yeah. Still downgraded fully, though.
[00:43:06] That was not very epic. So my silly little question, though, is just the idea of like if there were to be a 17th House Guest you had to vote in. Just in general, who do you think would be the hardest person if you never thought you'd get another
[00:43:19] opportunity to meet them? To not vote in. So if there was someone up there like, oh my gosh, this is like my one opportunity to meet them, but I'd have to compete with them in Big Brother. Who's someone that you would really have to think about with that?
[00:43:32] Would it be a Big Brother candidate or is there another celebrity or someone else? Oh, I mean, it could be like a wow. I mean, I'm just throwing some funny little silly stuff out there. Yeah. So if it was a Big Brother person,
[00:43:47] you know, my two faves are Dr. Will and Daniel Reyes. And I've gotten to meet both of them, you know, in person. I had like a really, you know, nice experience meeting Daniel Reyes like way back when, when Big Brother 3 was
[00:44:06] the season that I was supposed to be on. And so, you know, back when I was like going to like charity events and stuff like that, that was like a really, you know, exciting, you know, fun time. And she was as amazing as I ever could have imagined
[00:44:20] in person. And then Dr. Will is my other favorite, but Dr. Will just is very like, like, you know, cool and cold and it's just like not going to give you any. But I think that maybe over if I was in the house with him for 90
[00:44:33] days, I think I could break him, Taryn. I mean, his interview with Sharon was one of the most delightful things I've ever seen in my life. Like, wow. Oh, my gosh. He has a double headed turtle. I didn't know that. You've watched Big Brother 2 also, Minnow?
[00:44:49] No, I just watched her interview with him. OK. I'm thinking about watching that one, though, because I really like Dr. Will. I mean, he's very good on the show. I wouldn't vote in any Big Brother player unless they were my friend. Is there. I'd only vote my friends.
[00:45:08] Is there a celebrity, though, Taryn? I was trying to think like, like, I don't know, maybe I'd vote in Killian Murphy. OK. I feel like he'd be pretty chill. I'm just trying to honestly my my first thought when you said that was who are people that I
[00:45:30] could use to advance my game? Yeah. So I don't know. I just feel like Killian Murphy wouldn't be very cutthroat. Valid, valid. Yeah. Well, thanks. I just thought of that question thought it'd be fun to pop on and say hi. So thanks for hearing me out. Love this.
[00:45:54] Have a great weekend. Bye. Bye. All right. Let's say hello to how about Marcus? Hey, Marcus, how are you? I'm good. How are you guys doing? Doing great, Marcus. What's what's happening? Oh, I I had to sleep last night because I had an exam for grad school this
[00:46:16] morning. I just kind of was watching Terrence's update. So I appreciate. All right. How did the exam go? I think good. OK, I don't know. Maybe that's a bad sign that I don't know. Yeah, but it would be a bad reason to bomb
[00:46:32] the exam was because the Big Brother Live Feeds came back. Would it? I mean, I've done worse for less. Yeah, I guess so. But yeah. All right. Well, good luck with everything, Marcus. What do you want to talk about? Yeah. So I enjoy the conversation about
[00:46:54] the stats around being the first HOH and how it relates to like players winning the season. But I feel like the last couple of seasons since Cody won it in 22 has been like a really bad stretch for first HOHs. And I know this one hasn't like
[00:47:12] fully fledged out yet, but the last three seasons being would be Frenchy and Daniel and what was it? Riley. I think that's a pretty bad last couple of seasons. Do you think there's been something in the way that they've been like setting up these first weeks
[00:47:31] where it makes the first HOH either like less valuable or just harder to manage? I mean, I've thought about this. I think that in general, you the people that are trying to win the first HOH, I think are more likely to be people that
[00:47:49] will bomb the first HOH. So like somebody like Frenchy, for instance. And then, you know, it's also like a situation where, you know, the individual circumstances are a little off like, you know, Riley probably would have done really well if not for Sari being in the game.
[00:48:12] And, you know, because Sari was there, things completely derail and who knows what would have happened otherwise, especially given that like the alliance she created goes on to dominate the game later on. You know what I mean? Like that was probably a situation
[00:48:27] where Riley would have been in a good spot if not for that particular twist. And then, you know, there's Daniel. Yeah. So I'm curious to see if the trend continues for sure. Yeah. And I think something about them being the more athletic ones, but probably being the ones
[00:48:47] who want to be the leader and be out front and then just kind of get kicked out easily. Could Cody be the outlier? Because what was what was 20 and 21? Well, Jackson was camp director. So not quite HOH, but definitely position of power early on. Tyler was in 20
[00:49:08] and Cody was 19. But like didn't go great. That was really Paul. Yeah. And then Nicole was 18. And so like it really does kind of as you go back, like there's definitely a good stretch of very successful for first HOHs. OK. All right. We'll keep an eye on it.
[00:49:26] All right. Well, Marcus, thank you for calling in. OK. Good luck with the exam. Thanks. All right. Take care. Bye. All right. Let's say hello to our friend Jody is here. Hey, Jody. How are you? How you been? What's up, guys? What's new? Terran, you were in midseason
[00:49:45] form today. Wow. Nice job. Thank you. Really enjoyed your interview. Really enjoyed the jet lag guys. Me and my wife are turned on to their shows as well. Thanks to you guys. Thanks to you, Terran. And I really enjoyed that today. It was so the
[00:50:07] great part, I thought, Terran, was that it took you and Rob an hour and a half to actually get to the crux of why Big Brother I thought that was great. You have you have to let them vent out the awfulness before you can
[00:50:24] come back in with like, there is some stuff here. Yeah. I mean, you can say, hey, Game of Thrones is a great show. It has dragons and you're done. No, no, no. It takes an hour and a half. You have to really find
[00:50:38] out why it's a good show. But but you guys got to it and it was really wonderful that the end of that hour and a half, you know, interview with those guys that they were like, you know, there's not a lot of good stuff out there.
[00:50:53] It's not a bad show. I thought that was really great. I really did. So my pick, Terran, is Chelsea. I think that Angela and Matt are going to flame out so fast they'll be gone instamatically. I think that Chelsea, Quinn, maybe Brooklyn. I think those three, maybe
[00:51:14] maybe one other, maybe Leah. I think those four might be our players for the season. Fair, fair bet. I think it's early to to really pin down on them right now. But I think they are the players of the moment. I think you could probably throw
[00:51:33] Joseph in there, too. Although, you know, I don't know. He continues to try to protect Matt. And I'm not sure when that if that could like or at least it seems that way and that could potentially come back at him. Because like these are players who
[00:51:52] are riding the middle of a very like impending war. Like this isn't like a House of the Dragons. Truly, truly. The dragons are coming. This is a house structure. This is not a house structure that is going to last, seemingly. And that means that their middle
[00:52:10] position will will go away very, very soon. And where do they what happens then? There's gonna be a new structure and new positions. And so I think they're doing well now, but it does not necessarily mean that this will continue moving forward. I think.
[00:52:27] And Rob, I'm really, really enjoying this Crypto TV stuff. Oh good. Well, you know, and Taron is such a big part of that. But you know that. Yeah. But no, I've been been very excited to be, you know, collaborating with Josh so much on
[00:52:45] everything. And, you know, one of the great things about, you know, getting to do this is that, you know, I get to work with so many of my friends. And so more stuff with Taron, bet I'm there. And, you know, working with Josh more like
[00:53:02] this is it feels like 2014. Yeah, it's great. And Taron, seriously, you do a great job with those podcasts as well for the Game of Thrones and others you've done as well. So guys, thank you so much. OK. Jody, thank you so much. OK. All right.
[00:53:19] Taron, as soon as I walk in the room, I hear the first lady of podcasting listening to you and Grace. Oh, that's so fun. Yeah. So she's she's very into House of the Dragon. It's it's a good show. OK. All right. Let's say hello to CJ.
[00:53:38] CJ, how are you? CJ, you're on mute. Yes, I'm muted. I'm muted. Hey, what's up, guys? How you doing? We're doing great. How are you? I'm good. It's my second full season doing feeds with Big Brother. So I was super excited, got into all of it. The preseason
[00:53:56] waiting for the cast reveal. I have I have really high hopes for this cast. I don't know why I was just every the vibes just felt like they they're here to play. And I feel like that first night of feeds just it was fun.
[00:54:06] It was fun just getting back and seeing the feeds again. And I'm excited. CJ, where in the world are you? I'm in Arizona right now where it's one hundred and ten degrees every day. We are we are we're trying to survive until we make it to to September.
[00:54:22] Yes. OK, that's when Tyson says it's you know, that's the sweet spot. Yeah, right. Exactly. I had a couple of questions for you guys just based on just one night and just watching the episodes and seeing where the house is. I feel like that
[00:54:38] Chelsea and CJ are going to be a little bit more of a force. I mean, I just feel like that Chelsea and Cedric, like it just really impressed me like to be put in a situation where you are like literally a sitting duck and
[00:54:52] you just like it would be so easy for you to just be jettisoned like are you guys just what about their game so far? Impress you the fact that just like that in two days where you have no power, nothing, not even your vote
[00:55:05] that you are essentially like lock safe for a week. I would say Chelsea just because I think Cedric it's more so that Cedric I think was I mean, it's still kudos to him for making an ally for sure. But like it's more so like, oh my ally won
[00:55:22] HOH and so I'm safe. Whereas Chelsea has managed to get in with both sides with most people. They all feel good about her and likely would have been in a position to have a say in who won HOH or who won HOH all playing from
[00:55:44] the position of not having any power to help them in any meaningful way. And that is huge. I mean like social status is so important in a game like this and it's tricky to be put on the back of the table. And I think
[00:56:06] it's definitely impressive that she's managed to overcome it so far. Yeah. And then the last question is like I hear a lot of talk in the house just through the feeds about chemo and Kenny and Lisa and how they're kind of like on the outs. And I know
[00:56:22] how you kind of talked about, you know, in the update, Taryn, about how that may be just more like, you know, you may not get along or vibe with these people or so on and so forth. Do you think it's more on the group
[00:56:34] collective that is kind of like where these people are kind of not welcome or do you think it's more on us on guys, on those people who are maybe perceived as a little bit more introverted to kind of maybe step out of their shells a little bit?
[00:56:46] Yeah. I mean, it's an interesting question. I mean, you know, I don't know that I would say like it's anybody's responsibility necessarily either side. It's more so just kind of like the reality of the situation, right? Like there are always going to be people
[00:57:06] that don't fit in as much as the others. And I would say certainly like in real life in particular, I would say it's probably like if you're in a big group of people and there are people that are not fitting
[00:57:20] in with you, like make an effort to reach out and to include them. In a game like Big Brother, do you have that same amount of responsibility? That's like an interesting question to ponder. I would argue that there's strategic benefit to reaching out to people
[00:57:36] and trying to include them more, but some people might disagree. And then when it comes to like the person themselves, I think it's less so like you know, I really like to think of it in terms of, you know, if I'm judging this person as a player,
[00:57:52] it's easy to say they should be trying harder. They should be doing more. But I want to make sure I'm remembering that like that's not something that many of the other players in the house have to do for no reason other than just the way that
[00:58:08] the casting department decided to cast their show. And it's I think unfair to judge somebody who is excluded from things just because they don't fit in more harshly simply because they have a harder time going at it. And so that's what I try to keep those dynamics
[00:58:30] in mind because I think they're important when it comes to both analyzing gameplay and also like if you are thinking about your own potential gameplay, you know, at least having those dynamics in your head will help you understand what you might need to do.
[00:58:44] Maybe I do need to work harder or whatever, you know? Yeah, and there's so much going on in the first week and you're trying to get to know everybody, but to speak to the first point that Taryn made is that I just think that there's a lot of
[00:58:56] opportunity in these other people. You never know like, ooh, one, you could be a nice person, but also even from a strategic point of view, there's a lot of opportunity in like, okay, ooh, I've got this person that I have rapport with of not necessarily that you're
[00:59:16] going to make them your number one ally, but it's like if you offer them the opportunity to go and have a conversation. I remember Dan on the feeds talking to Jen City about asking her about cooking and stuff like that. He wasn't interested. Yeah.
[00:59:37] Okay, that's great. Thanks, guys. Also, Rob, don't be too bad on the 17th houseguest. I feel like Brooklyn and Joe, I feel like they may have your back. They're looking good so far. Yeah, I'm okay with the rest of my team. But yeah, I just felt like
[00:59:53] I swung for the fences and struck out on that one. Thanks, guys. So much. Appreciate everything you guys do. All right. Take care. Bye. Okay. Let's say hello to Rachel. Hey, Rachel. Hey, guys. How's it going? It's going great. How are you?
[01:00:09] Hey, sorry. This is like my first time ever doing this. Okay. You're doing great. Okay. What's happening? Not much. I'm just, well, I'm supposed to be working but I'm working because the life feeds. It's the first day. Yep. I'm actually, I live in Florida.
[01:00:27] I live in Lakeland, Florida. It's kind of a suburb of Tampa. When I saw that Joseph got announced for the cast list, I was like, this guy looks really familiar. He looks kind of hipster-y. Let me see if I know anybody. And it turns out
[01:00:43] I have quite a few mutual friends with the guy. Is that your local video store, Rachel? It is not my local video store. You know, the sad thing is I've actually been to this place so many times at this point and it didn't even
[01:00:59] register with me. But then when they showed the cast intro with him walking through the door, I was like, oh, fuck. I think I'm, sorry. I was like, oh, I think I've met this dude before. But it's been really cool because
[01:01:13] we wound up with a group of friends of mine and people that are in that crowd set up our own little private Discord to get together and sort of like cheer him on. Talk about Joseph, yeah. Do you have a scouting report?
[01:01:27] Is there anything about Joseph as a player that would help us to know? He is a super fan, so I guess he's been watching the show since he was a kid. The guy running his socials is also a really big, that's their main
[01:01:41] thing in common with each other is that they both grew up watching the show together. So it's been really cool to kind of have somebody in real life to root for because I'm a pretty, I'm a relatively recent fan too. I've only, this is my third year watching
[01:01:57] the show live and everything. But it's been really cool to actually watch this, hear about this in real time. I know people that were with him when he did his package and all that. So it's pretty cool to sort of see the inside
[01:02:13] scoop on it because I would really like to apply to the show, but I have external life, you know, I have other life obligations that kind of prevent me from being able to do that. So I'm kind of living vicariously through Joseph right now. Okay. Well, he's
[01:02:29] off to a good start. Yeah. Keep us posted if the group has anything to share. Yeah, for sure. I can't really think of anything in particular. I think that yeah, I mean, I guess, like I said, he is a super fan. There's nothing
[01:02:49] I think we're planning on how if he makes it to the end, I think we're going to have like a giant like watch party in Tampa for him. So stay tuned for that if there's any Tampa people in the chat right now. All right. Keep us posted,
[01:03:01] Rachel. Yeah, for sure. Thanks guys. All right. Thanks so much. Okay. Bye. All right. Rob, I'm going to grab a sandwich. Okay. I'll be right back. All right. So while you're doing that, let me bring on a guy who I know can talk. Let's bring in Joey. Joey,
[01:03:19] how are you? Hey, Rob. I'm doing very, very well. For people who are just joining us for the BBQ and A, Joey and I would have great calls almost every week on The Survivor call-in show. You know, I like to think of myself as a Survivor super fan.
[01:03:37] I like to think that about myself. I am not a Big Brother super fan. I'm very... Is this your first time here? No. Well, it's my first time here doing this call. Yeah, but first time through for Big Brother? No. I saw Big Brother 25. I watched all of
[01:03:53] 25 and 26 is my second season. But I do know of other seasons, I've taken... I've tried to take in as much information as I can about Big Brother. And I'm kind of paying attention to the feed, so I'm paying attention to the social media. And you know,
[01:04:09] obviously with Big Brother the first few days are gonna be very chaotic, right? Gonna be super chaotic. But I feel like there's this trend in Big Brother and it's a little disappointing that Taron left because I feel like he could speak on this
[01:04:25] maybe as well as you can, Rob. But I feel like male-dominated alliances always seem to pop up in Big Brother. And I wonder what separates something like the Brigade with Hayden Moss and Enzo and all of that from all the others that seem to pop up. I watch
[01:04:39] Big Brother 25, like male-dominated alliances where being thrown out left and right, right? And I see now here in Big Brother 26 Cedric, Cam, and Quinn are looking at being an alliance together. And it makes me wonder what makes a male-dominated alliance actually work and why does it work?
[01:05:03] And why can something like the Brigade exist and it did so well and then all of these other ones that pop up in every season just absolutely don't work at all? Was it just, oh, there's a special case, special loyalty, blah, blah, blah? Or is there something
[01:05:19] more to that? Taron, thoughts on why all-male alliance, not that they always work, but they have a higher success ratio than a women's alliance. I feel like that the guys' alliance, I feel like that one, I feel like that there tends to... It doesn't raise the same
[01:05:43] level of suspicion. I feel like that the guys in the house seem to be very keenly aware of if there's a women's alliance. And I also feel like that the women in the alliance, I feel like often one of them leaks it. Yeah, I mean,
[01:06:01] I think there's a few things and it's certainly been talked about a lot, but men are given a little more space to do that, I think, is a very key element. But you could probably go even simpler and say that over the last 15 years of the show, plus
[01:06:26] men have won a lot more competitions than women in the game. And if there's an all-male alliance versus an all women's alliance and the men's alliance is winning 66 to 75% of the competitions versus the women's 33 to 25%, one is going to be a lot more successful
[01:06:50] and have a lot fewer issues based throughout the season. Yeah, and I look at this Cedric, Kim and Quinn thing, they want to be in a solid four with Chelsea apparently, that's what I'm reading. And it makes me wonder, is that sort of thing predicated
[01:07:08] especially on challenge strength first or is it actually like, oh, I think we could be loyal? Because I think of Madden Jag last season, that was a strong bond, but at the same time, it was very much about we're the strongest people in the house
[01:07:22] right now, we need to stick together. And even Cameron, everybody's favorite guy sort of tried to get in by saying, I'm a comp threat too, just bring all the comp threats to the end. Is that part of the equation too explicitly? Usually, yeah.
[01:07:38] That is a very common line that bigger guys will often say, like Shane and Frank made a deal like that at one point and luckily Dan was there. To the four horsemen back in the day, the brigade was a little different in that because of the meow meow
[01:08:06] and how we love to assign roles, it was like, oh, we each have our own strengths and it wasn't always just about physical strength or impending threatening nature of that. I think there is often this kind of sense of, hey, we're all big targets, let's
[01:08:26] just stick together, we'll win a bunch of comps and that usually is explicitly said. I will say if that is the line of reasoning that I think is if that is the only line of reasoning, I should say, it usually doesn't work because it's not enough
[01:08:42] by itself, but it is a great addition to other things like a good relationship and other elements that can really aid toward their success. But even still, challenge strength by itself is very difficult to play around. Even just two people. There are numerous
[01:09:04] examples of just two guys running the table in Big Brother. We just saw it last season, unfortunately. It makes me wonder, what is the best way to play around that? Is it really just got to wait for a comp that you can win? Is it
[01:09:18] as simple as that? Unfortunately, yeah. If there is a duo or worse trio, four people, the committee just winning everything, there's not a lot you can do beyond trying to break them up. It's basically the majority of having a numbers advantage is always a
[01:09:42] massive advantage in the game. What makes Big Brother special is that there are tools in place for players and strategies for players to overcome the disadvantage of not being in the majority. When you give the majority competition wins, which should be one of the main
[01:10:02] assets for the minority to break in once in a while, it becomes so much more difficult. Not impossible, but definitely much, much more difficult. You have a couple of examples like Cliff in Season 21, the way Taylor did it in 24, obviously varying success. But it
[01:10:28] is very tricky to overcome it for sure and not something that I would envy if I were playing Big Brother. Alright, Joey, I owe you a response on the Season 41. What's changed in the new era? It's fine. Take your time. We got a lot going on this week.
[01:10:46] I'm interested. We'll do it. Okay? Wonderful. Alright, Joey. You take care. Thank you. Thank you both. Let's say hello to Flynnzel is here. How are you? Hey, how's it going, guys? Alright. Am I saying that right? Flynnzel? Yep, Flynnzel. Okay. What's happening? I saw someone in the chat
[01:11:12] say that it was a lurker live so I decided to jump in. Yes! I've been a part of the robot army for over two years too. Wraps up for four plus years now. Okay. Well, thank you. Huge fan of the show and the podcast
[01:11:28] and everything. Alright. So happy you're here today. What do you want to talk about? I've been a part of the Taren sleep regiment as well. I actually took off work today just so I could watch the live feeds all night. Yes. Regrets or no? No, it's been
[01:11:44] fun feeds so far. A lot of strategy, a lot of catch-up work obviously since we haven't had the night one feeds but I really liked listening to Taren on the last podcast. Okay. You're still here? Hold on. Flynnzel, hold on. We lost you.
[01:12:04] We lost your audio here for a second. Okay, you're back. It might have been my AC fucking messing with the sorry. You're good. We heard that. Alright. So just take that again. Earlier when Taren was talking to Ben and Adam about
[01:12:24] like I promised this show is like super strategic and interesting. I thought that was really interesting and a lot of people can relate to like explaining to their friends why we watch this show and this ridiculous gift wrapped. It's presented as on the TV show
[01:12:40] with all the wackiness and costumes and everything. Forget. Expect the unexpected. Explain the unexplainable. Yeah, pretty much. And like the thing is that like it's basically a topic of conversation I constantly have to indulge in because like anybody I meet, they're
[01:13:02] just like, what do you do for work? And that's I have to have the big brother conversation every time somebody asks me that. Yeah, it's weird to hide it. You know what I mean? Explaining the depth of how deep this show goes and like explaining
[01:13:22] someone last night watching the feeds with me like no, these aren't actors. This is happening in real time. Yeah, there might have been one actor at least. I also just wanted to say this have not room this year is just awful like it's basically nothing, right?
[01:13:42] It's I mean at least the cheese slice got Luke evicted last year. Yeah, we have have nots. Yes. Yeah. Who was it? Clay? I'm sorry. Cam. I think Cam Quinn Tucker and chemo. Chemo. Yep. Okay. And with those just decided by the HOH?
[01:14:06] I don't think it's been discussed how it's been decided yet. Yeah, I'm assuming it was volunteer, but it might have been picked by HOH and they and they volunteered. I'm not sure. Okay. Yeah, I think often first week it's just volunteers, but all right.
[01:14:22] Flynn's anything else going on? No, that's pretty much it. I mean, I go live on Twitch watching feeds while I play World of Warcraft to so awesome. All right. That out. I'm pretty inconsistent, but when I go live, I go live. Okay. All right. Thanks.
[01:14:38] Thanks for calling in. Okay. Have a good one. Take care. Bye. All right. All right. Let's say let's pick up. Now tell me if I'm saying Risa or Risa. Yes. Hold on. You're muted. Okay. All right. We'll come back. How about Sky? Hey, Sky. Hello. How are you?
[01:15:08] I'm good. How are you? We're doing great. Hanging in there after closing in on first full day of feeds. Nice. Nice. Yeah. I've been watching the show kind of on and off since season 22. But last season was the first season that I really stuck with the whole
[01:15:32] time. Yeah. So this will be my second season. And back for more. Yep. And I've been watching your videos on and off, especially when you do games. I watched your whole Traders game live. I watched the entire pressure cooker live. That was one week ago today, Taren. Yeah.
[01:16:00] A lifetime ago. I know. My question for you is what do you think would make an actual good season long twist? Along the lines of the multiverse, but actually good. It's a good question. I feel like it would be something that I mean, honestly,
[01:16:28] I think there are a lot of possibilities. I think that like you can absolutely do the kind of theming they want to do. It's just a matter of not messing with the formula in a way that causes the game
[01:16:42] to be worse or the game to be too solvable. And I think that just requires an actual game designer to work on it. Quite honestly, I don't even know if I think about that at all, let alone have like a dedicated person. It would
[01:17:00] shock me. They're just vibing. If there was a dedicated person and I very much will apologize to them if there is. But if you do exist, we should talk. You're open to that. Yeah, absolutely. They could do it anonymously. You don't even have to
[01:17:20] tell everybody to embarrass them. Listen, anything to make the show better. Here's the thing, and this is what I would say. There's a chance if there is a person that consults on game design, they might not be listened to. It could be another problem. That's possible.
[01:17:42] Yeah, it's fair. And then my only other question, I've never watched Survivor. If you were to pick one season for me to start with, what season would you pick? Good question. One season... I feel like that Kha'Gion tends to be the answer. Although I feel like that maybe
[01:18:09] people have David vs. Goliath also. Pearl Islands, but that's standard definition. That's going back a little bit. I think Kha'Gion would still be my answer. That's probably an exciting season. It's HD. Maybe Millennials vs. Gen X is a decent one as well. Sky, well, what
[01:18:39] a journey you're about to go on. Yeah. Okay. Take care, Sky. Let's say hello to Jeff. Jeff, how are you? Jeff, are you there? Yes, good. Sorry, a little bit of a delay. Yes, we're doing great. I'm wondering what your thoughts are about why you think the
[01:19:11] producers are kind of forcing in these convoluted game-related twists rather than going back to casting-related twists where in the earlier seasons they had mostly cast-related twists and they're heralded as some of the best twists in Big Brother history. I feel like they don't
[01:19:29] take as much effort as what they're doing and if there's anything Big Brother producers love, it's things with minimal effort. I think that might be the problem is the cast-related twists require probably more effort. Especially if they don't really care about how it impacts the game.
[01:19:46] They can just be like, we'll do this and then we'll do this and it'll be great as opposed to, for instance, Project DNA was pretty tough to set up. They had to find the exact right candidate for the cowboy thing and then they had to find
[01:20:04] the set of twins that will work the right way and now it's like, what kind of unique thing can we come up with that is along those lines? We've already... The casting twists, they were all the same thing over and over. It was exes, it was partners,
[01:20:26] it was rivals, it was duos, they kind of were just recycling the same things other than Project DNA which was its own wild thing. My answer is probably, I don't know if they have any ideas for it. Do you think it's harder to do... All of those
[01:20:46] were from a pre-social media world. Do you think that social media changed the world in a fundamental way that it's almost impossible to do it? Maybe something like Project DNA. I think we've seen twin twists could still pretty easily work. Granted, they've already done it twice now.
[01:21:08] Even secret partners or rivals or exes, I think that all works. There's tons of other things that international versions have tried but they all kind of fall under the same category and I don't know that they have as much juice. The fact of the matter is, the thing
[01:21:32] that makes Big Brother US stand apart from all of the international versions that have gotten cancelled or the other reality shows that have come and gone in the time that Big Brother's been on is the game, the feeds, the legacy. If they want to do something
[01:21:50] unique, it makes a lot of sense for them to do it with the game rather than the casting or format because other versions have definitely pushed the boundaries a lot further than US in terms of casting and format. What do you think of that, Jeff? Not really sure.
[01:22:16] I just think anything would be better than making a twist that completely stifles the entire game that's introduced in week five when it's just starting to get really good. I certainly agree. Alright, well Jeff, thank you so much for the call, okay? Alright.
[01:22:34] Thank you, have a good night. Jeff also recommended Token Chains as a first season. Alright, I got one last person on hold and then let's try Risa again. Risa? Yes, yes, you're here. What's up? There's a few things I want
[01:22:54] to talk about. I'll try to be fast though. Okay. So I was thinking the first thing is this is my first season and I'm actually enjoying the twist. I don't know why. I guess I'm the odd one out. Okay, so far if it's working for somebody
[01:23:10] that's better than we could have hoped for. Yeah, and also I've watched a little bit of live feeds and what I've noticed is that two people are really working trying to get alliances and it seems to be mostly Joseph and Matt and Joseph seems more strategic
[01:23:26] and Matt seems kind of sloppy in my opinion. Yeah. Matt seems very sloppy and that's the thing about Joseph's connection to him is how far is Joseph willing to go to try to maintain this connection and will that drag Joseph down? Okay. Also, you know what?
[01:23:50] I'm thinking, I know it's really early in the season but it seems like everyone is loving Quinn and I enjoy him a lot too. Yep. Quinn so far so good. Yeah. Okay. What are your opinions on T-Core? I think she's underrated in my opinion. I'm enjoying her.
[01:24:10] Yeah, I noticed T-Core and I haven't been able to listen to a lot of the conversations yet because I've been doing the podcast but I've noticed her with Kimo a few times just kind of hanging out alone. I'm wondering if there's a good relationship there
[01:24:28] and if so, I think that's a great connection for her to have. Granted, Kimo is likely going up on the block but I think that there's a lot of space for the players who aren't involved right now to work their way in.
[01:24:44] I think there will be a lot of opportunity because like I said before, the current structure is just not very tenable long-term. It's going to crash and whoever sort of picks up the pieces I think will be in a good spot. Okay. Is there anyone
[01:25:04] getting on your nerves? Last question. Sorry. Honestly, the whole... Is there a whisperer? The Matt crew. So last night Matt was talking to Lisa forever and then Mackenzie and Leo were talking like... Leo was in the shower which is very annoying and then they were
[01:25:24] also whispering which is very annoying so that was getting on my nerves a little bit for sure. Okay. Alright. Well, Risa, thank you for the call. Okay? It's been good talking to you and thank you for having me on. Yeah, appreciate it.
[01:25:42] Alright, Taren's got a date with a burrito. Okay? So we'll leave it there. It was going to be a burrito. It's a sandwich instead. Okay. Alright. The sandwich is there and anything else you want to mention as we head into the weekend? You know,
[01:26:00] we're really just kind of playing catch up right now because it wasn't night one so we're in this weird space where we're trying to figure out what we missed while things are still fluid. You know, like night one is interesting because everything is fluid, everything
[01:26:18] is subject to change. Normally if we jump in like night five, six, seven, it's just figuring out what happened because it's already locked but we're now in this place where we're like, what happened but also does it even matter because things are changing. Okay. Well, as things change,
[01:26:40] Taren will be there. Okay? Next Live Feed update comes on Saturday morning at 11am Eastern Time and then again on Sunday. We'll also have a Sunday night episode of A Big Brother to recap. It'll be a 90 minute episode. We will find out more of what's going
[01:27:00] on in the house and what twists the house guests are dealing with when we get together at what? 1045? Yeah. Okay. So join our recap coverage then and make sure, of course, patrons, I know you're good. If you're just here, make sure you hit subscribe. Go to our, subscribe
[01:27:23] to our podcast feed, bb26 for links to subscribe everywhere. Taren, what's your schedule like now? We've got like eight more hours of I assume you're going to go back and stream now? Well, I will likely need a bit of an intermission before heading back but yes, we will
[01:27:51] continue the stream and you know, promoting the plushie. And then tomorrow live feed update. That's kind of... Does Callus play with itself? Hold on. I mean the plushie. Do you think that Callus knows like, oh this is me. He did have so the thing about Callus
[01:28:19] is that he's actually not a fan of other cats. So I think he was a little bit like skeptical at first but he's come to welcome the robot kitten into his life. Alright, well, if you missed the Jetlag podcast, check that out plus
[01:28:35] two nights of Recapped if you missed it. Check it out. Rob has a website .com We've got plenty of other podcasts coming your way including we'll drop another Survivor 46 deep dive this weekend as well in addition to everything else going on.
[01:28:51] Thank you for joining us. Take care everybody. Have a good one. Bye!