Big Brother 28 Cast Reveal Reactions

[00:00:08] Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Sestradio back with you. Happy Big Brother 28 Cast Release Day. And here we are. The reason for the season to talk about what we just watched, a bro-veal. And I'm so happy to be back here with the voice of Summer. It's Taron Armstrong. Taron, how are you? I'm so good, Rob. It's good to be back. We've got a cast. Happy bro-veal.

[00:00:36] Happy bro. We've got a terrible name for it. Terrible name. We couldn't be more back. Yes. Everybody's like, what is it? What? It's all bros? No, it's like Big Bro. What's even worse is it's the Big Brother bro-veal. Yeah. It's not even like the Big Bro-veal. We're not great at naming things still here, 28 seasons in, but we're ready to talk about what we just watched.

[00:01:00] We're about maybe 10 minutes after they had the first ever YouTube cast announcement. And first of, I guess, many things coming to YouTube from Big Brother this summer. And we're going to talk about everything we know here at this hour. Very excited to be back here live with you. And Taron, the live chat is chatting and everybody's very excited. How excited are you? I'm pumped.

[00:01:29] I mean, it's been a long offseason. It's been a good one for me. I feel, I talked about this a little bit when we did the returnee draft, but I feel like I am the most ready for it. Because season 27, that was a big season. There was a lot going on. It took a toll. And so I really dedicated myself in the offseason to making sure I was prepped and ready. You seem fresh. You seem ready.

[00:01:54] I want people to screen grab you today. And then maybe at the end of the season, we'll get a side by side. We'll see how you hold up. It's going to be like a survivor before or a presidential before and after, you know, because they're pretty similar. Yeah. Okay. So we'll get into all of it here. We have now the identities of 14 house guests. Yes. We highly suspect there will be more house guests.

[00:02:25] I mean, we did a returnee draft on this very podcast only three weeks ago. We have to believe that there are going to be more than 14 people in this cast of Big Brother 28. Is that fair to say? I think it's very fair to say at this point that there will be, I would, I would be willing to put money down at least two more people. More people added to this cast. Yes. At least. Yes.

[00:02:52] Because we have not had a cast less than 16 people since, I don't even know what, uh, Big Brother, what's 14? Might have been 14. Yeah. I don't know if 14 had the coaches, so that wasn't technically true. And then 16 or 13 had a lot of people. Yeah. Maybe 12? Maybe. Okay. So we have, that would be very, very unlikely that we'll have less than this. We don't know when.

[00:03:16] Julie did end this bro-veal by saying that who or what's coming, she said. Which, I mean, I guess, I guess, what could that mean? Ainsley? It could mean, uh, I don't know, aliens? I don't know. What is a what? What does that mean? Dinosaurs? Dinosaurs? There were dinosaur bones.

[00:03:43] Uh, we learned about the theme for the season is time travel. Does that mean anything for you? I mean, apart from just like, uh, you know, a list of places on the, or time periods on the wall. Not really. Yeah. All right. Let me then just go back to big picture in terms of the bro-veal, which started with a house tour.

[00:04:07] And then we got the longer form versions of the cast intros. What'd you think about the 45 minute big brother bro-veal? Okay. I want to say this. I think that there's, there's either like somebody new or, or maybe like they're listening to people. Like there's a, there's a direction that this season has been headed in, heading in that I think is very promising.

[00:04:36] And granted, I kind of said that last year too, because I was like, oh, look at them like dressing up the house, like the traitors. And then, you know, uh, but they're doing this thing. They've, they've kind of like opened up the YouTube channel. They're doing the cast reveal as a live stream on YouTube. That's, that's such a no brainer to have been doing. It's such a great idea to do. It made it an event much more so than it has been before. Everyone was watching at exactly the same time.

[00:05:05] It wasn't like this mishmash of, uh, like, have you checked out this person? Have you checked out this person? Everyone was watching in sync. Um, and on top of this, Rob, there's more information that this is not the only thing they're doing with the YouTube channel. Yeah. They are also going to be streaming live feeds for brief periods of time after the episodes on YouTube. And again, this is just such a great decision that they should be doing.

[00:05:33] Uh, and, and I feel like, uh, we've got some, some promising things happening. Yeah. We don't know a lot about the behind the scenes workings of big brother, but I think it's reasonable to assume here. We are 26 years into this thing. I think that there are younger people who have come to work in the production and with working at paramount people that are a little bit more inclined to know how people consume media.

[00:06:01] So it is nice to see big brother keeping up with the times and adopting some of these other successful ideas that other shows have used. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Uh, I think in terms of marketing, it's a step forward for the show.

[00:06:17] Uh, and, uh, and in general, this idea of these extra house guests potentially being not only returning big brother players, but as we'll probably talk about potentially players from other shows, uh, which they've technically done before, uh, you know, Jackie and Jeff from amazing race. Yeah.

[00:06:37] Um, but like, again, borrowing some ideas from the traders and from their own show last year, which did very well when they brought back, uh, Rachel, let's bring in a little more talent. Let's, let's, uh, you know, include a little more of, uh, the reality sphere as a whole. That's doing really well right now. Uh, so it, it feels like there's a good push happening and I like what I'm seeing. Yeah. Okay.

[00:07:05] So let's, let's talk about what we know at this hour. We have the identities of, uh, 14 players. We will be doing a big brother draft coming up on Wednesday night, the night before the big brother 28 premiere. I believe that's going to be at 8 PM Eastern. And so, uh, have you gotten pet peeves yet for the big brother cast or that's only for survivor? Nobody asks pet peeves for big brother.

[00:07:35] It doesn't, doesn't happen. Yeah. Okay. Well, either way, it's working for you. Winner of the big brother 27 draft and the survivor 50 draft. Um, but we will talk about that more tomorrow night. Um, you want to just go through these folks here in alphabetical order and, uh, let's talk about what we have at this hour. It might've been a little bit different than what we had about two hours ago. And so here we go. Let's talk about the first person we met today. It's Ashley trail.

[00:08:04] Yes, Ashley. Uh, she started off the, uh, the video. Uh, I think they just went in alphabetical order, which makes a lot of sense. I assume we will do the same. Um, and, uh, I gotta say started it off pretty strong. Um, she's 24 years old and, uh, live feeder, like long time watcher of the show has watched the live feeds is somebody who is definitely from what we saw in her video.

[00:08:30] Like there to play the game, uh, and, uh, and like actually participate in, in the strategy. Yeah. Uh, which is something that we always love from cast members. Um, and so, uh, I, I really, I got a good sense from Ashley. How much do you take it with a grain of salt to people that say that they are live feed watchers? I think there's a couple of people that I say, okay, I buy it. But if somebody watches live feeds one time, are they a live feeder? Are they a live feeder?

[00:09:02] No, but they might say they are. And famously people do lie about, uh, the amount of things that they watch. Um, and so she certainly could be that when, uh, in, in looking at Mike Bloom's, uh, bios that he posted, uh, she said, I've watched big brother for, oh, so very many years now. Whenever I was a little girly girl, me and my fam would make special dinners to view it. Total live feed watcher, all of the shebang. Uh, so. If it's all of the shebang.

[00:09:32] Eh. I think what it, I think what it means is like not, not much of a dedicated live feed watcher. Yeah. Uh, she says as she got older, she started doom scrolling on her phone more and she watched a little less, but she recently got her head back in the game. Meaning when she was cast, she went back and watched some. So, you know, when I say live feeder, I don't think, uh, I don't think she's like actively watching the live. That doesn't seem to be the case, but, uh, she very clearly kind of, I think, uh, understands enough about the show to talk about being a live feeder.

[00:10:02] Maybe it was loosely aware of the live feeds at one point. Um, and also just like in my head, it's hard to like grasp what a 20. Okay. So at 24, you went to college and stopped, which means you were probably watching. It's, you know, it's, I can't keep track of these things. Big character. I think that she is a bubbly personality could be like a young Rachel Riley, maybe.

[00:10:27] Uh, it could be, um, in the sense that, uh, what I will say is that Rachel Riley, I think was overtly strategic. And I think the same will be true of Ashley. I think that like, um, she, and she kind of gives off this vibe and maybe even says it a little bit that she doesn't maybe seem like she's very strategic, uh, from the, from the outside. But, uh, but I think she is there to play.

[00:10:54] And, um, and if people don't see that coming, that that'd be great for her. But I think that just the way that her whole vibe to me sort of seemed aimed and strategic. And I think that will come off. I think that will come off well, to be honest. I think people will enjoy that. I think she'll get along with the more strategic players in the house. And, and I think she'll be able to get in with them pretty easily. I think this was a theme today, Taryn. Uh, she is open to a showmance.

[00:11:21] I'm not, was there anybody who was even married or like in a relationship? I don't think a single person said they were closed off that they, uh, that they were, uh, not pulling for chats. Yeah, I think we went, I, I, we might've gone 14 for 14 today. It's very possible. Yeah. Okay. So we're, it's a cast that's single and ready to mingle. Okay. Uh, anything else you want to say about Ashley?

[00:11:50] No, uh, just again, you know, just the, like, I think that it's important to set the standard. What we're very used to, especially in, in modern big brother is like 95% of the cast being completely oblivious to what the show even was a few months ago. Um, and so to start off with somebody who is pretty familiar with the show was, was interesting. Yeah. I, I've getting the sense you seem rather high on this cast. I don't, listen, it's hard.

[00:12:20] It's always hard to know. It's always hard to know. But the more people I see that are like familiar with the show, uh, the more I'm inclined to be a little more optimistic. Also, I think there are some, some genuinely intriguing personalities, some charisma. Uh, so I have a little bit of hope, but, but honestly, like, uh, sometimes that's a bad thing. Sometimes like if the cast looks good on paper, it can sometimes be a, be a worse season.

[00:12:47] I just, I've done enough of these with you that I can tell that you seem, you seem a little bit of like a, a little bit of a, a spring in your step. A little bit. Yeah. Uh, you know, hopefully, hopefully I don't get let down, but, uh. Okay. All right. Let's go to, let's talk about Barrett. Uh, now, now I believe Barrett was watching the live feeds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so Barrett is.

[00:13:16] He's genuinely a live feeder as well. Uh, and this is, this is probably where the optimism came from. Like two people in a row. The first two people were people who said they were live feeders, who said they were big fans of the show. Um, Barrett is a very interesting, uh, character here. He's 27 years old. Uh, he's a jumbotron engineer, which. Sure. They break. I mean, you know what?

[00:13:43] I think I get it because he's also six foot six. Mm-hmm. So he, he, I guess he can just reach better. He can reach up. Yeah. Yeah. Um. Um, but, uh, he says he is chronically online with Big Brother. He watched, he's watched the live feed since he was eight years old, which if he's 27, that means he's technically been watching since, uh, for, uh, what? 19 years. He says he literally watched Keisha's birthday play out in his living room on Big Brother after dark. Uh, he's unhealthily into the show.

[00:14:14] Um, and this tracks very much so, uh, he seems like somebody who is very, very deeply into the lore of the show. Um, and he's, as I said, six foot six. Uh, he seems like a charming enough guy. He says he's a bit of a flirt. Um, and I, I feel very good about, about Barrett. I feel like this is, there's a lot of potential here at the very least. We like a tall in the Big Brother house. Is he too tall?

[00:14:45] He could be too tall. Uh, I, I always think about, like, Michael Bruner when I think about, like, uh, these, like, tall, kind of, like, slimmer guys. Uh, Michael obviously was very good at competitions. Um, and Barrett should similarly have a lot of knowledge, uh, when it comes to the competitions. Um, he does plan to hide the fact that he is a super fan. Uh, which I think is a, a, a decent strategy here.

[00:15:14] I think you don't need to oversell how much you know. Um, so, you know, we'll see how that goes. But, uh, but I think his height will help him in many of the competitions. And I think it will also... It's not, well, yeah, maybe. Uh, and I think also that it helps him get in with, like, some of the more, like, macho dudes. Uh, potentially.

[00:15:38] If, you know, the fact that he's got some height, um, you know, helps, I think, sell the, the more bro-y angle that he might otherwise not have. But, but who knows? Okay, he knows what he's doing. He wants to showmance the house. We'll see, uh, what he's able to do. He says he's not gonna be able to hide his reactiveness, though. A few people said this, that they wear their emotions on their sleeve, that he, that he says he's a very reactive person.

[00:16:05] Um, I actually, I don't hate that. Uh, I think that if you're too stoic, uh, people don't know how to read you, and that gets a little scary. Um, but, uh, but obviously you need to be able to hide some things, right? So, uh, who knows? Yeah, the chat's saying that he is a Big Brother podcaster himself. I thought somebody said that he discovered Raven for Big Brother 19. Wait, what does that mean?

[00:16:34] I don't know, I guess, but maybe she's a sequester? He, he discovered her? Mm, I don't know. Maybe he broke the news that she was gonna be on. Oh. Maybe we'll find out on the live feeds that story. Is he old enough? How old is he? He's 27, so Big Brother 19 was, what, like, nine years ago? Mm-hmm. Uh, he would've been 18? Yeah. Okay. So, we'll get the story straight eventually.

[00:17:03] We'll find out. All right, let's talk about somebody who's not a live feeder. Let's talk about, here's Chuck. Chuck is a supply chain analyst? Supply chain analyst is, yeah, what, uh, what was, what was said there. Um, he does, he says he's a casual viewer. Um, meaning, of course, he hasn't really watched. Uh, he, he seems very charismatic, though.

[00:17:32] Like, he genuinely, he says he's gonna have a great social game, and I believe him. Uh, he's a very handsome guy. Uh, he's got the cowboy hat. He's from Texas. He's, uh, he's jacked. Um, and I think that very easily he is going to fit in with, uh, the bros. But he says he actually, despite looking like he, he's a bro, he actually likes women a lot.

[00:17:59] Uh, which is very unusual for bros, obviously. Um, and so he's actually gonna try and make sure he gets in with the women first. Yeah. Uh, which, you know, I guess will go well for him. We'll see. I thought he seemed kind of stiff on this. I think that there's some people that this is not necessarily a great barometer of how they're gonna be in the house. I thought he was kind of bad at the, like, standing up. And he seemed like he didn't really know what to do.

[00:18:26] And that doesn't mean anything in terms of how he's gonna actually be in the house. But I think that this was very unnatural for him just to be standing up there and talking about himself.

[00:19:03] Yeah, I agree. Like, what if we didn't have a lot of edits? Exactly. It was. Exactly. That's, that's what I'm saying. Like, they did not match that. Like, it felt like they were trying to visually go for that style, but did not match that energy whatsoever. Uh, it was very awkward, I think, for a lot of these people who are just kind of standing there.

[00:19:29] And it looked like they were told you can't move, uh, from, you, you have to stay on your mark. And so they were, like, very, like, stiff. Sarah, do you think that we will just see a replay of a lot of this on, uh, premiere night? Or do you think that we'll see a much more cut down version of this? Uh, we usually do see a decent amount of repeat, uh, stuff in the premiere.

[00:19:53] Um, there's usually more B-roll footage, uh, from, like, the kidnapping, um, and stuff like that. And it's usually, I would say, if anything, like, a little bit cut down. They also love to do their smash cuts of, like, you know, as they're packing, like, I love a cowboy. Chuck with his cowboy hat. I'm open to a showmance. You know, stuff like that. They love that. Mm-hmm. Okay. Here's Chuck. I like that he's gonna cut the guy's hair. Yes. I don't know if we've had that before.

[00:20:23] He says he's great at cutting. Now, he said he's great at cutting his own hair, which is gonna give him a great advantage. And I was thinking great advantage because he's gonna look better than everyone else because he's gonna be able to keep his hair nice and trim. But no, he meant because he's gonna be able to cut all of the other guy's hair. And that's gonna, you know, because you can ask anything when you're cutting somebody's hair. Yeah. And so now I'm just imagining him with some scissors and maybe a razor blade that they definitely wouldn't allow him to have, uh, being like, so... Who's your, uh, untouchable?

[00:20:54] Yeah. That could come out. You, I guess. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, all right. There's Chuck. Let's talk about Drew. Uh, here's Drew and, uh, Drew Campbell. Young guy. Surgical dental assistant. Okay. I need to say about, I have seen this, this person. Yeah?

[00:21:23] I swear I've seen this person at some point in my life and I need the audience to tell me where because I swear I've seen him before. He talked about his haircut is gonna be the new haircut on TikTok. Have you been looking up TikTok haircuts? I have not. But they are confirming in the chat he was on Beast Games. I thought that might be where I saw him. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. So, he has been on...

[00:21:49] Look, this is our first reverse transfer. Was he the guy that screwed over Sue Smay? No, no. I don't think so. Yeah. Okay. I was like, Drew... Uh, he apparently has also been on Jubilee. Okay. There you go. So, he makes the rounds on the, uh, the internet shows. Wow. Okay. They should have held announcing this guy. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:22:18] Uh, he is 22 years old. Uh, he also, I think, looks to me a lot like, uh, the kid from Stranger Things. The one with the hair. Yeah. Um, gives me that vibe as well. Uh, 22 years old. He's a dental assistant. Um, up in Temecula. Where does he find the time? He's actually pretty close to me. Yeah. Um, but, uh, he's, he says he's a fan of the show. Um, he says that he's been watching since he was eight. Similarly, eight.

[00:22:45] Uh, which is weird because that's also when I, why is everyone eight when they watch the show? Um, and, uh, he says he's been kind of a hybrid fan. He watches the episodes. He does like the dabble in the live feeds. Um, but, uh, he's, he's a hybrid fan. He does say though that he could write a book on the show. Yeah. Now, were you a little bit like, listen. Um, what do you think? Anybody could write a book about the show? This guy. All right. Thinks he can write a book on the show.

[00:23:15] I'd like to see. End him, Taron. Give him a one on the stock watch. Um. Write a book about beast games. My guy. Exactly. Exactly. Um, this is very interesting. He is, uh, yeah, I think one of the youngest people on the cast, if not the youngest. And he certainly looks it.

[00:23:40] Um, I would be a little concerned for him in terms of just like how young he looks and seems. Yeah. I don't know that he's going to be able to fit in super well with some of the older, uh, slightly older cast here. Especially if we're getting some returning people who tend to also be older. If that's where a lot of the strategic, like, stuff is gravitating toward.

[00:24:08] Um, I would be a little concerned. Was he on the most recent beast games or beast games one? I couldn't tell you, but I would, I would guess the most recent. Mm-hmm. Just based on how familiar he looks to me. Yeah. Okay. All right. We'll find out more about Drew, I'm sure. How about Haley Thogmartin? What a last name. There are some, there are some last names here.

[00:24:33] Uh, she's 29, uh, telemedicine executive, um, which I'm, I, she kind of talked about her job, but I still don't fully understand exactly what that means. Yeah. This was the one I was kind of zoning out. I saw a tweet while this was on and somebody said that she was the go ahead girl, give us nothing. Yeah. Uh, there, there was not much here.

[00:25:03] Now, as you mentioned, that doesn't necessarily mean that she won't be. Yeah. A big character on the show, but she definitely does not give a great interview. She, she was very low energy here. Mm-hmm. Um, she says also that she has not been a long-term fan of Big Brother. Not encouraging, but. Yeah. Yeah. To echo your point, you know, you can get in the house and just be a really good listener and be like, oh my God, I love Haley. She's the best.

[00:25:34] Absolutely. Um, and she also like, it's hard to judge and I haven't like fully been able to scan her bio here. She looks strong. Mm-hmm. Um, so. I think she said she's tall also. She also kind of looks tall. Yeah. But who knows? I think she said she was 5'9". Oh yeah, she's 5'9". Yeah. She's 5'9". And she did mention that. Um, so, uh, I, I think that in terms of competitions, that's, that's very, if she's

[00:26:04] strong and tall, uh, that's going to do a lot for her. Both in competitions and socially, because if you're good at competitions, that helps you socially. Uh, so, um, so I think, uh, I think, yes, she gave us not much here in this, uh, in this interview, but I would be curious to see where she lands. It would, it would not surprise me if she's kind of like a deep run kind of player.

[00:26:32] Uh, she also mentioned that she's very loyal and that she would absolutely, like she, if she finds like her people, she will just stick to them and be loyal. Uh, which is kind of like maybe some like Casey vibes here if she's good at competitions. Let's go. So yeah, like if, if a team just pulls her in and she's winning comps for them, like we could see her stick around for quite a while. Okay. All right. Let's talk about somebody who is one of the people that we recognize.

[00:27:01] Uh, it's Jason, uh, Jason, of course, uh, a star of RuPaul's Drag Race. Taryn, did you, did you catch the, the drag name for Jason? Uh, yes, I believe it's Selena's or sorry, Selena S titties. Why are you laughing? What's so funny?

[00:27:30] It's, I didn't, I didn't say it wrong. Yeah. I think, I think you're right. Yeah. Yes. In the 28th Jersey. Uh, from drag. Yes. From, uh, RuPaul's Drag Race. Uh, he was on season 15. Uh, and, uh, all stars season 11. Um, which I believe was very recent. I think the season is still airing actually. Uh, the, the all-star season 11. Wow.

[00:28:00] So, uh, I don't know. RuPaul was on Candy Crush. Right? Um, I don't know a ton about, uh, about, uh, Drag Race. I did actually watch, uh, an episode of it to, to get a sense of, of, uh, Jason's. We're newer fans. Exactly. Um, so I do have some, some kind of, some, some cliff notes, uh, here.

[00:28:26] Um, so spoilers for Drag Race, I guess, uh, will be inevitable. Um, but, uh, he made it pretty far, uh, finished in sixth place on, uh, his original season and then went on all-stars. Uh, and kind of, I think, went out relatively early.

[00:28:44] I actually read, um, the, uh, interview, um, that, uh, that Selena did, um, for, uh, for, for All-Stars where they talked about basically how they were a super fan of Survivor and Big Brother.

[00:29:01] They actually called out Big Brother specifically in the interview and how they were trying to play Drag Race like it was Big Brother, uh, and making alliances and basically had that kind of interview where they were like, yeah, I w I had all these alliances and I had set everything up correctly, but, uh, but nobody else wanted to play strategically. They were all too stupid. And so, uh, it fell, it fell short and I, and I went home and that seemed, that wasn't like a contested, uh, statement as far as I was aware.

[00:29:31] So, um, I think definitely, uh, somebody that seems suited to playing Big Brother and might actually go, go like really hard here, uh, in the paint. Yeah. You don't get the sense that Jason came here to play small. I think that being a reality TV veteran, I think really wants to make good TV, give us moments.

[00:29:57] I think that especially in Drag Race, you're judged off of your performances. So I don't think that Jason wants to just lurk in the shadows. Yes. Uh, a hundred percent. And I think this is, this is such a great, again, without knowing a ton about, uh, Jason, it seems like a great fit and a great get for the show because they know how to be entertaining and they know how to be strategic and play hard.

[00:30:24] Uh, again, just feels like a no brainer. Feels like this is going to be very, very fun. I would hope. Okay. All right. Anything else about Jason who I do believe was not planning to reveal the Drag Race background? Um, yeah.

[00:30:44] So I was a little confused about that because, um, they did mention a little bit about, uh, like I might have to bring it out at some point, uh, and say like, oh, but I didn't win. Um, they did say, by the way, that they have watched, uh, live feeds before, uh, and have been watching since season 16. I've heard that, uh, this is potentially a friend of Frankie Grande. So starting to watch at 16.

[00:31:12] Frankie Grande, I believe has a new book out also. There you go. I sent you a picture at the bookstore the other day of that, uh, that my, my book and your book were on the same shelf, but they had Frankie Grande's book was in the window. That's very funny because I didn't even see that part. No, I, it wasn't in the picture I sent you. I'm just saying at the bookstore.

[00:31:35] Frankie Grande has a, has a new book, uh, which is out, which I think had a, uh, super gay, a memoir. There you go. I wonder if there's any big brother in it. From Frankie Grande. Um, uh, so yes, uh, very, very excited for Jason. I feel like this is, there's some, there's some serious potential here. Okay. All right. So let's go to our next person here and, uh, let's talk about, uh, Kamu. Kamu, yes.

[00:32:05] He's a MMA fighter I've seen, but also he described himself as MMA coach. Well, uh, that could make sense. He could be, he's 32. He could be kind of like retired from fighting or like, it doesn't maybe fight much anymore. Once you're an MMA fighter, you're always an MMA fighter. Yeah. And he's, I was hard to tell. I couldn't really see super well, but he says he's even got like the cauliflower ears. He's clearly, you know, experienced in the fighting realm.

[00:32:33] Um, uh, he has fought in the UFC, uh, he says, um, but does not plan to reveal that much. Uh, he says he does not want to tell people that he fought in the UFC, uh, just that he's like a fighter, um, which I, I think is a good call. I think that like, you know, we're living in a weird time where UFC has some attachments to things that maybe you don't want to have out there at the moment. So, uh, much simpler to just say you're a fighter.

[00:33:03] Um, and he has also, uh, been watching the show for a long time. The first season he watched was season 14. Uh, he was basically introduced to the show with Dan's funeral. And, uh, he said he calls himself somewhere between a casual fan and a super fan. He sees all of the episodes, but does not watch, uh, as he calls the live streams. Yeah. Okay. Um, maybe I'm going to get duped here, but I kind of liked his approach.

[00:33:33] Uh, I kind of liked that he talked about that he, you would think that as a fighter, he could be a hothead, but he seemed very measured. And he talked about not wanting to get into conflict with people and knowing how to handle conflict. Yes. Um, it was, I think an interesting, uh, sort of video for him. Um, he does seem pretty charismatic. Uh, he does seem like, and, and I think a lot of people, it's, it's a very good place

[00:34:03] to be, I think, to have a somewhat intimidating look while having a charismatic and inviting personality. It's a good contrast, um, because people sort of appreciate that you are invited. And charismatic, uh, even more if they have a little bit of that, uh, intimidation factor, uh, before. Um, he says he's a little too trusting even that, uh, that he, he trusts people a little

[00:34:31] too much and that he's going to have to be, uh, careful of that in the house. But, um, but I think, you know, at, uh, at 32 years old as well, he's a pretty, pretty good age here. Uh, I think to be able to get along with, you know, older people and younger people. And, uh, and I think that, I think people will be intrigued by his background. I think they will be very intimidated by him physically in terms of competitions.

[00:34:58] But, uh, but I think he'll, I think he'll be able to get in with a group, uh, early on. Um, but I think he will also be a big target early on. Yeah. Interesting. Um, I'm not going to target him. Uh, I'm not going to say that he's boring. And if he gets in a, uh, showmance, I'm not going to say it's schmoopy. How about that? Be very careful. Don't be very careful. I'm going to be very careful.

[00:35:24] I would say definitely watch out for him in competitions. Fighters, uh, are going to have a lot of, uh, good characteristics for winning the kinds of physical competitions on Big Brother between cardio strength, uh, et cetera. I think, um, he's going to be definitely one to watch out for. Who are some fighters that we've had? We had certainly had Austin, AKA also known as Judas, the wrestler. He was a wrestler.

[00:35:52] Russell, uh, in BB 11. Mm-hmm. Yep. Uh, I think mostly like Misha Tate as well, uh, who, who crushed, uh, obviously she, her, her competition wasn't like the most physical, but, um, you know, I, chat said he did bad. That's true. That's fair. Chuck, you know, Chuck was a little on the older side. I think by the time he came on days. Um, so, uh, so yeah, I mean, we'll, we'll see. Okay.

[00:36:23] Speaking of later days, let's talk about, I believe our oldest house guest of the season. Uh, here is Latrice. Yes. AKA Lala. Um, she was infectious. She was, she was maybe a, probably my favorite interview. Uh, just such good energy from her. She is, uh, I think as you said, 50, she says, I think she's 57 turning 58, uh, or maybe has recently turned 58.

[00:36:53] Um, but she's a boutique salesperson. Uh, she's clear. She's gotta be great at her job. Um, because she just radiates great vibes. Uh, and I think that that is huge. She's also been a, a very long time viewer. She's been watching since big brother too. Uh, she says I was really hot, heavy and hot into it for many, many years. Uh, she used to watch the overnights, the live feeds.

[00:37:21] She means, um, as she fell off for a little bit, uh, and now for the last couple of years has been back into it. Um, either way, she clearly has a lot of, um, a sort of history with the show. Uh, she also says she's very physical, uh, especially for her age. Um, and that like, don't count her out of any of these competitions. Um, we hear claims of this a lot. How true it is, is, is, is going to be sort of yet to be determined, but it's, it's a reason

[00:37:47] for optimism, especially considering how phenomenal she might be socially. Um, I think she absolutely seems to have the energy of somebody that could fit in with all kinds. Yeah. The one thing with the older house guests is just that when are they going to go to bed is the one concern that I have. And sometimes you have these older house guests and they're night owls and they can hang and they want to be up late. And then you have where like Miss Felicia wanted to go to bed at what? Nine o'clock.

[00:38:17] And that's when I want to go to bed. So I get it. It is a problem. It is a problem. Again, I think that, um, I actually think that like returning players again, who might be a little bit on the older side generally, uh, although who knows, um, is a, is a plus is a positive for her because it means the average age will likely be pushed up a little bit. Um, but yes, that is, I think the biggest issue that players who fall outside of the average

[00:38:45] range of ages, uh, get into is that, uh, it's harder to relate to the younger crowd. It's harder to stay up with the younger crowd. Uh, so, you know, we'll, we'll see. We'll see. Okay. She said her uncle is cool from cool in the gang. Yes. And I believe she said she was in, uh, the sounds of blackness.

[00:39:11] Uh, she was, uh, in a musical artist, uh, and, um, has, you know, basically like, uh, lived a very cool life so far. And I think has a lot to talk about. Um, somebody saying she has multiple Grammys. I don't know if that's true, but it sounds like it could be.

[00:39:35] Uh, so, um, you know, uh, the sounds of blackness are a Grammy award winning, uh, ensemble. So if she was a part of them when that was happening, then, uh, then she likely would be. Uh, so, um, seems like again, just such a very cool person in general. Um, and I think has a lot of potential if, especially if she is actually winning some competitions here or there. Okay. And she's not snooty. Definitely not snooty. Not snooty.

[00:40:04] Okay. If she wants to talk about music, maybe she can talk with Lyric, who is, uh, a secret lawyer, but also a musician. Yes. Uh, uh, an attorney slash, uh, musician slash singer. Uh, she's from Hawaii. She's 25 years old. Um, she says she is very physical as well. Uh, that she's actually very athletic. She wants to be a competition beast. Um, she works out like,

[00:40:34] uh, she's got a lot of that going for her. She does seem like on the smaller side, but, uh, but obviously with enough physicality that, uh, that doesn't really, uh, that doesn't have to matter as much. Um, and just in general, uh, seemed very charming. In fact, called it out. It says, I'm very charming. Um, and you know, I didn't disagree with her. Uh, she seemed really, uh, friendly and bubbly.

[00:41:03] I think absolutely will be included with any initial group. They would want to have her because, uh, she's like, just got a great personality for it. It seems, uh, she's also open to a showmance, but like not in the sense that she wants it to affect her strategic game, uh, which a lot of people say. But like, she said it in a way that sort of was a little more understanding of what, what it actually means to potentially have a showmance.

[00:41:34] Um, and so, uh, you know, she says she has been a fan for a couple of years. She's watched with her grandmother, uh, but, or because of her grandmother at the very, at the very least. Um, but, uh, I think there's a lot of reason to be optimistic about, uh, about Lyric here too. Yeah. She also has a dad who was a one hit wonder. Yes. Uh, the song, no, nothing's going to change my love for you.

[00:42:04] Yes. Yes. A banger. Um, I, I, I was hoping, I was hoping you would, you would have a sense of this. I, you know what? I was like, that sounds familiar. And I did YouTube it and I feel like that they should have done it on Love Island karaoke. But yes, I did know the song when I heard it. There you go. I have not Googled it yet. So maybe I will also know it. Who knows? Mm hmm. Yeah. Um, there you go. I, but she talked about it.

[00:42:31] Like, I didn't, when, when that song was out, like, I wasn't like, oh, this is like a kid who's singing this song. Was it a kid? I, I, I, I, it seemed like to me as a kid. It seemed like this is an adult. It wasn't like, uh, it, it wasn't like a teeny bopper song. I, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have assumed it was. Mm hmm. Um, well, I got the impression that she was saying that her dad was, had like, was a, uh, a young musician who had a hit.

[00:43:02] I mean, maybe, I mean, if it was, uh, especially like adult contemporary. Maybe, maybe, who knows? Mm hmm. Uh, I'm also seeing, I've seen this around as well, so it might be true, but, uh, uh, you know, I, I, I have not confirmed this. People are saying that she was on American Idol. The chat is running with it, whether it's true or not. Um, ask Brandon. Where's Brandon Donlin?

[00:43:25] A quick Google search does immediately bring up a video and a wiki page, and it does look like her. So I'm going to say that, yes, Lyric, uh, has been on American Idol season 21. Is that the twist? Has everybody been on another reality show? Perhaps. Perhaps. Everybody's like, I have a secret. I'm not going to tell anybody I was on another show.

[00:43:48] So I forget how American Idol works, but she, she went to at least a Hollywood week, which I think is one stage in. Right? Yeah. You go and they say you're going to Hollywood. And then I think they take the people from Hollywood. I think there's like top 50 is Hollywood. That's pretty good. Mm hmm. Yep. Okay. All right. There is Lyric. Let's talk about, we've had so many survivor rocket scientists. I believe, is this our first big brother rocket scientist?

[00:44:18] Um, probably. Uh, Mallory here. Yes. Rocket scientist. She's 24 years old. Um, and, uh, you know, definitely, uh, you know, I would say she was very stiff in the interview. Um, but seems like it seems personable enough.

[00:44:42] Like, uh, again, this is like one of those instances where, you know, maybe doesn't give the, the most bombastic interview. Yeah. But, uh, but may have a bit more, um, sort of energy in the house. She even says she has a bit of a temper. Mm hmm. Uh, obviously, I think what I'm, what I'm seeing in the chat and what I've seen already is like a lot of quick Kelly comparisons. Um, I don't think she will be personality wise similar to Kelly.

[00:45:12] Well, who is Taryn? That's like. Right. Exactly. A one of one. The personality of Kelly, who last we saw her in the Big Brother house, I think was hiding dead bugs and offering people a thousand dollars if they could find them. And crucially, this is very different from Kelly. She has been watching Big Brother for pretty much as long as she can remember, she says. Uh, her whole life she's been watching it.

[00:45:38] She, although she is a little bit more of a casual viewer than, uh, somebody who watches the live streams. Sure. Uh, so, yeah. She's got a lot going on. She's a rocket scientist, okay? She does say that her power, superpower is, uh, she can make friends anywhere.

[00:45:53] Yes, which I believe, uh, I think that, um, what you might typically see from, uh, from, from a player like this, uh, maybe is a little bit like the Nicole Anthony track of maybe not included in the initial big alliances, but is able to make some good individual connections, uh, that, uh, could give her some, uh, some room to maneuver elsewhere.

[00:46:21] Elsewhere, though, I would love to be proven wrong there, especially, again, if there are returning players or players from other shows. The, uh, the typical cool kid grouping may not be how the season functions. So, uh, you know, so I actually think that there's a bit more potential here, especially for her to get in with a group of people, maybe some of whom she recognizes, and, uh, and that she could get along well with them and it could, could work out very, very well for her. Okay.

[00:46:52] Anything else on Mallory? Uh, she's one of the, she, she did say she is hopefully not open to a showmance. Hmm. But not completely closed off. Okay. Well, they wouldn't put her on if she said completely closed off. She has to say, she has to leave the door open or she won't get in. Okay. All right. Now, this is why maybe the Big Brother casting hates us, uh, wants to make it hard for Taryn the first couple of weeks.

[00:47:21] We have a Mallory and add to Mallory a Melody. Mallory and Malody. I can't, I'm a, Melody and Mallory. Lyric, Melody, and Mallory. Uh, right in a row. All in a row. Um, 24 years old. She. Go ahead. Go ahead. Uh, she is a corporate game show host. Corporate game show host, which, you know, and it looked like the name of the, the game show that she is a host of is like, uh, what's that cost?

[00:47:51] Which. It seems to be is, is, is not a show. Um, she is a game host. Uh, it does not appear to be that this is a show that you could watch. Yeah. I mean, what, the thing that came to my mind was like, when you work for a company and they do like a company event. Mm-hmm.

[00:48:13] And as part of the event, they hire somebody like Melody to run a, a fun little team bonding game show exercise. Yeah. Where you play a game show hosted by Melody at this corporate event. And for a corporate game show host, I also thought she was very bad at this. I, I thought that she was very stiff and very not charismatic as a host. Yeah.

[00:48:42] I mean, you know, to be fair, you know, I think hosting is one thing being interviewed is another thing, but yeah, you might expect her to maybe have a little bit more, uh, of, of a little bit more energy with the interview, but, um, you know, it can be tough. Yeah. It can be tough. Okay. All right. Uh, how do you think Melody is going to fare as a player?

[00:49:05] Well, importantly, she says that, uh, her mom will tell you that she's been watching big brother since she was in her womb. Wow. And then after she came out of the womb, she also started watching big brother. Okay. Well, that's good. She's been watching it for a very long time. Mm-hmm. That's encouraging. It's encouraging though, uh, weirdly specific and not specific at the same time. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's interesting.

[00:49:34] I think that, uh, she says, um, okay. She also says she wants people to underestimate her very, very much the classic, like people think I'm a dumb blonde, but actually I'm super smart. Um, and says, uh, crucially also that she's very sensitive. Um, that she's, she, like, really, um, tends to, to really feel it if she feels like people in the room are, like, avoiding her or not including her.

[00:50:03] Uh, she's very sensitive to that kind of thing. And that's a concern because that is, like, that is big brother all the time. Uh, and if she is really as sensitive as she is saying she is and is going to be reactive to that kind of, uh, thing a lot, uh, I could see that going very poorly for her. I saw, uh, Lauren in the chat had asked, uh, what was with the Kill Bill stuff in her intro?

[00:50:31] I mean, she kind of, she kind of looked the part. Mm-hmm. Not gonna lie. Just cosplay. But what does that have to do with her? She's, she's gonna kill Bill. Yeah. Is there, is there a William? Is there anybody? Uh, so I guess, is she the bride? She's gonna take everybody out? I assume so. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay.

[00:50:59] She's not into martial arts, right? She also, she did say, by the way, she's not open to showmances, uh, in her bio. Uh, she says, they're a bad idea, especially for a little blonde girl like me. I'll get caught up. I'll catch too many feelings and then game over. I'm here to win money. So. Yeah, but. Probably we'll be in a showman. Uh, yeah. The fact that she's saying that she will catch feelings makes me think that she knows it's a bad idea, but might be unable to resist. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[00:51:28] I hope they play What's That Cost on the live feeds. Oh, no. What's that cost? You're a game show host? Oh, let's play your game show. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. But I think she was not going to tell people, right? Um, I don't, I don't remember. Yeah. I don't remember. I didn't, I didn't track that one. Wait, are you the woman from What's That Cost? The corporate game show? Okay. Oh, boy. Okay.

[00:51:59] Let's talk about Rome. Rome, the pickleball coach. Rome. Everybody loves Rome on reality TV. Well, his name isn't really Rome. It's Jack. His real name is Jack. Yeah. His friends just call him Rome. But why? He didn't explain that.

[00:52:26] This guy had the wildest interview. In, in about 90 seconds, he managed to give so much content. Yes. He's a, he's a 28 year old pickleball coach whose name is not really Rome, but Jack. Um, and listen, Rob, you might look at him and see an alpha. Yeah. But really he's a beta.

[00:52:55] He's a nerd beta. And he's going to get along with the submissives of the house. So I got the sense that he said that you might see an alpha, but he's going to get along with the nerd, with the, with the betas and the nerds. You're right. He said, he said, he, he said he is a nerd. Yeah. And we'll get along with the betas and submissives. And, and Rob, if you might think, oh, you couldn't Rome.

[00:53:23] You couldn't possibly be a nerd. Look at you. Don't worry. He has proof. He collects trading cards. Trading cards. So if you thought I wasn't a nerd, there you go. Mm hmm. Yeah. Did he say what kind of trading cards? He did not. As far as I'm aware. Yeah. He's going to talk a lot of trash. Yes. He says he's a big trash talker. He's very competitive. He says, he says he's great at conflict resolution. Sure.

[00:53:52] Because he knows when to talk softly and when to be more expressive, which sounds like great conflict resolution. Mm hmm. I think he said he's bashful also. Yeah. He's bashful. I don't know if I caught that one. Yeah. And then he said that his new friends are going to call him Rome, but his mom is, will only call him Jack. Yep. His mom will call him Jack. He says he's open to a showmance.

[00:54:22] He's been single for a long time now, and it's hard finding love in the real world. Mm hmm. Yeah. Maybe we could give him some advice. The chat is kind of down on this guy, and I just don't feel like that that's the best way to start off with the person that the chat is going to get in the draft. So give him a chance, chat. Come on. I just can't believe that he came out of the gates with betas and submissives. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:54:52] That's further than even Cody went in 19. Like, he talked about betas. I don't think he went as far as submissives. And what he's saying, like, the actual sentence is like, okay, well, that's kind of... He's saying that these are the people he wants to work with, but it is a little red flaggy that that's what he's coming out with in his intro. Hugely red flag. It's literally like, oh, those nerds? Yeah. Yeah. I get along with them.

[00:55:21] I can relate. I like collect trading cards. He's going to be their king. So, like, I'm basically one of them. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, there you go. That's Rome. Okay? Man, somebody needs to revitalize the name. Bring it back. Oh, we have Taylor. Taylor, yes. 24-year-old elementary school counselor. Mm-hmm.

[00:55:48] She is another one, I will say, I thought gave a very kind of, like, professional interview. She was very, like, selling herself mode. And I feel like I have not gotten a sense of what she will be like in the house. But I do think there's a lot of promise here. Yeah. Yeah. Could you follow the strategy that will be the big B blowout?

[00:56:18] So, first of all, she is a big fan of the show, she says. She was a casual viewer as a young girl. Fell off for a bit in college, but then binged it after a bad breakup in college. Not a live streamer, though, she says. Mm-hmm. So, her strategy, having been a big fan of the show, is to come into the game with the big B blowout. And then binged it after a bit of the game plan. Yeah.

[00:56:47] head where she has a three-part team where there's a team captain for the floaters. There's one of the three, right? And then there's a team captain for the two tethered teams. The bait is in the submissives. Right. So there's a floater team and then there's two tethered teams. And there's a captain of the floater team and there's one captain for the two tethered teams. And with that we're going to use each other where there's going to be a final three. So now there's a third person. I don't know where that third person came

[00:57:17] from except maybe she meant there's a team captain for each of the two tethered teams. And I she didn't really describe what the tethered teams meant. But I think what she's hoping for is a team of three who each have their own group and then those three groups consist of a larger mega group. Right. Sounds promising for the Big B blowout. You know, it's weirdly not that far off

[00:57:47] of dominant strategy. But it's not quite there yet either. Yeah. Yeah. Some people just overcomplicate this. I feel like Will last season was going to have like the basketball team. Everybody's gonna have all these roles. It's like you can't really draw this up before you go in. And here's the thing. I think that as long as she's not too rigid, the mentality that she's going in to want something like this

[00:58:17] could be beneficial to her. Because again, this kind of setup, no, what she's describing doesn't quite work exactly the way she's describing it. But if she's willing to get into a situation where, hey, we do have a secret big alliance, but we have a smaller secret inner alliance, that's a bit simpler and generally works a lot better. And she's probably a lot more willing to propose that kind of thing, which is, I would say, an overall good thing. She said

[00:58:46] that she's also going to kill them with kindness, but also kill them with strategy. Which are two ways to kill people. I guess so. Anything else about Taylor Brown? I don't think so. I mean, again, I think that there's something here. I'm curious to see how she operates. Yeah. Okay. All right. And then let's talk about a person that we

[00:59:16] got to know maybe a little bit later than some of the other people because that we have Yash, who apparently was an alternate. We had somebody dropped from the cast at some point today. And then here comes Yash. Pretty classic last minute replacement kind of thing. Yes. Yash is 24 years old, financial analyst,

[00:59:46] but he's probably going to lie about his job because he doesn't want people to be intimidated by a financial analyst. Yeah. Listen, it worked for Emily Flippen. Yeah. He says he's a casual viewer, but recently he's become a Big Brother merchant. Merchant. Every night, five hours a day, you name it, I'm watching, aka, I've been binging since being contacted for the show. Okay. Look, better than the alternative, although,

[01:00:16] as he was an alternative. What's his strategy, Rob? Well, he's not going to tell you. It's a secret. Hmm. He's good at mazes. He's very good at mazes. His weakness, and this is very relevant, his weakness, hairdressers. Yes. Specifically, a 5'4 brunette. Which is not quite

[01:00:46] Chuck. Yes. Yeah, Chuck is a hair stylist. In terms of 5'4 brunettes, do we have any of those? I don't know. Maybe Lyric? I don't know how tall Lyric is. Lyric? Possibly. Here's the thing about Yash. The further his video went, the more I was like, ugh.

[01:01:16] He talked about being open to a showmance, but the way he talked about it was, yeah, I'd love to find a wife. Get me a wife on this show. Which is kind of a weird way to say it. He also started talking about like, every morning, cold shower, it's what you gotta do, it's gonna impact your, you know, metabolism, all that. Like, he's giving like, crypto bro.

[01:01:45] I thought that they asked him, would you rather, go back, throw back to the Big Jeff days, cold showers or slop? And I felt like that he answered cold showers over slop, but I don't think that that's a choice you get, as I have not. I think it's both. I don't think you get to pick one. No, I don't think you get to pick one. But it seemed like he was answering a question that was cold showers or slop.

[01:02:14] It's very possible. Very possible. And he would rather do the cold shower because it's good for you and slop, he's gotta, you know, his like, his diet's gotta stay on point. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, it does. It does. I have a small conspiracy theory about Yash. I think Yash is potentially somebody that it's possible we managed to catch him with the How to Win Big Brother videos. Because

[01:02:44] the way he talked about the competitions, he was like, hey, I've got the competitions. I'm really physical. I really hope that I get unfair competitions that benefit me physically. Don't put me in a booth and give everyone fair chances. I don't want that. Which is a very strange thing to say if you don't know the show that well, in my opinion. And so it's possible

[01:03:13] that he's heard some talk about it. So you think that maybe in his five hours a night, he was watching the video series that you just did of How to Win Big Brother. Yes. But took the wrong takeaway. I did. Well, to be fair, it's not the wrong takeaway for him if he's good at physical comps. Yes. He's like, I'm going to comp out at the end because the competitions are not fair. Yes. But I did. We put out a four-part series How to Win Big Brother with some of the most recent Big Brother winners.

[01:03:41] I believe that the people who went into sequester would have been able to see at least Chelsea and Xavier's. And Chelsea's in particular, I think I really talked about competitions and fairness of competitions and such. So it's possible. He crushed it. It's possible. Okay. And then, Taren, what do you think of Yash's idea for a punishment? What do you think about the inside-out punishment where you wear your underwear on the outside of your clothes and you wear your socks

[01:04:10] on the outside of your shoes? I mean, it just screams frat, bro. No? Like, where does that even come from? Yeah, the socks on the outside of your shoes, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what that's doing. That just kills, like, how do you, your socks aren't going to fit on the outside of your shoes and even if they did, you can't wear them again. I don't know.

[01:04:42] The inside-out challenge. Why do you do that to your socks? Mm-hmm. Yeah, wear your undershirt outside of your top shirt. I don't know. They could do it. Okay. I feel like Yash might get along with Rome. Yeah, I can see it. That's the vibe I'm getting. I can see it. Although, Yash might not be enough of a nerd. Yeah, Rome might think he's a beta. Yeah. Yash might be too much of an alpha for Rome.

[01:05:13] Got to find the betas and the submissives. Okay. All right. Well, look, they gave us something to talk about here today. 14 cast members. We do, we do expect more. We expect people that maybe we've seen before. Yes. I mean, should we talk about it? Should we talk about who we, we, as in really, like the general population at this point, kind of expect? I think there are two names at least that are very

[01:05:43] heavily suspected. Yeah. Okay. One, one of which, Angela. I took her in the draft. I think you might win the draft. So, she's the only big brother returning. Okay. You want to talk about hypothetically how Angela would fit in here? I think we should. Okay. Uh, I think, first of all, Angela, and I think I mentioned this on the draft,

[01:06:13] is a wild choice for the solo big brother returnee spot. The Rachel Riley spot. Exactly. Um, but, I don't hate it because, you know, the big, the returnee big brother spot is a little OP. Uh, and so, getting Angela in there who we know is going to make good TV, who we know might like, isn't going to at least dominate the competitions, um, I think is, is interesting.

[01:06:42] Put her in a position of power early on. Could you see a week one HOH again? Because I could. Yeah. I mean, I, I feel like, uh, it's, it's a very interesting choice. And I think one that could actually work. Yeah. You know who's going to really hate Rome? Angela? You know what, Rome?

[01:07:12] Even your name is fake. I've seen better acting in a low budget movie. I could see it. I could see it. So, yeah, we'll see, we'll see here. I think that, um, you know, certainly maybe a friend in Latrice, maybe. Um, could you give us just the, the, the primer on Angela as a player from what you remember? Yes. Uh,

[01:07:41] so Angela, as we just alluded to, she won the HOH in the first week, which was phenomenal. Uh, she was approached with a majority alliance and was genuinely in with them, but suspected she wasn't, got paranoid, accused them of lying to her, uh, with acting that was good for a low budget movie. Uh, and then additionally went after the biggest alpha male in the house, uh, who she deemed, uh, was crazy eyes, um, and, uh,

[01:08:11] and successfully managed to take him out, but her game, uh, and social capital in the house completely crumbled afterward. Spent the rest of her time as somebody, you know, just kind of skirting around, uh, the, the outskirts of the game. She famously was like, I want to be, I want to be with you guys. Can, can I, can I be in your alliance? Like she'd spot people making alliances and just be like, can I, can I be a part of, part of this? Uh, and the, the funny thing was

[01:08:41] every time somebody did think, oh, wow, Angela completely on her own, I can pick her up, uh, it backfired on them. She'd either betray them intentionally or unintentionally, uh, and, um, you know, uh, was just, never ceased to be an entertaining character even when she had no power for most of the game. So, uh, it'll be very, very interesting to see her as a returnee with, theoretically some amount of like, uh,

[01:09:11] social capital. Yeah. Having experience, um, and probably included in some kind of returning player group potentially. Uh, Angela with power, again, is just, is just an interesting thought. Do you feel like that she could be potentially changed and for the better as a returning player? Hypothetically. Usually that's the case. Uh, I think it would be surprising if she hasn't changed for the better.

[01:09:41] Uh, it's just, has, is that enough? Uh, like, I think she'll potentially start in a position of power. How long will that last until we get back to, uh, other Angela, uh, is maybe the question that I would be asking. Um, and, I think that's an interesting one. Yeah. Going back to Julie's comments, did she confirm a person from the Survivor Cinematic Universe?

[01:10:11] I don't think Julie did, but I think we've gotten confirmation from, uh, other, uh, reporters in the field. Um, I think Sharon was maybe the first person to say at least one Survivor. I think Hamster Watch has now confirmed it as well, uh, that we have at least one Survivor player and the heavy suspicion is that it is D, Survivor winner from, 45.

[01:10:42] Was it 40, 45? Yeah. known as being one of the more dominant winners of the new era. Uh, she basically had a locked-in alliance that she managed to drive to the end of the game and, uh, and sort of was able to use her individual relationships, uh, with some of the players in that alliance to stay on top, uh, and kind of, like, dominate that season. Um,

[01:11:11] recently also played on 50, where things did not go quite as well for her, um, but, uh, definitely, like, a strong personality and heavy game player. Big personality. I think that she is gonna ride for her people, uh, really good in the challenges as well. Also, uh, just came off of a appearance in the challenge 41, I believe. And so, she certainly has a lot of experience

[01:11:41] on these shows and I think, uh, I think would be open to a showmance. Uh, she, yes, she had a showmance on her original season, um, and, uh, and I, and in fact, I think has a little bit of, uh, drama outside of that as well. Um, but, uh, but definitely somebody I would be interested to see again, like, uh, somebody known as a very strong survivor player coming on to

[01:12:11] Big Brother. We've seen that with Sari already, uh, who had a very, very fast-paced method of playing. I'm interested to see if, if this is true, uh, whether it's D or not really, uh, if we see that same level of fast-paced play. And also, D is very physical, uh, somebody who's very capable of winning competitions, um, which obviously gives her a massive leg up on somebody like Sari, uh, who struggled in competitions in Big Brother,

[01:12:40] and competitions are a lot more important in Big Brother than they are in Survivor. So, uh, that would be very interesting to see for sure. Yeah. Okay. She's also 29 years old, so not super old in terms of, like, you know, again, usually you get, like, returning people. They're a bit older because they're removed from their first appearance, but she's still pretty young. Yeah, and her alliance in season 45, uh, she was with Julia, who was the mom, and also Austin and Drew,

[01:13:10] uh, so she was with the mom and the guys, but in season 50 she played, and she was really close with Tiffany and Camilla, so she was really doing a little bit more of a girl's thing in season 50, so I think that she's open for business with all types of people. You would kind of expect her to, to kind of take charge early on, I think. Um, um,

[01:14:01] hypothetically. Okay. All right, Taryn, we're gonna come back for the draft in, uh, tomorrow night, about 8 p.m., we will be back with Melissa and Pouya and Amon to do our big brother 28 draft. Maybe we will even know more information than we know now. Maybe. It seems like, at this point, they are waiting for any official announcement until at least the premiere, and given the fact that Unlocked is Friday, uh,

[01:14:32] it's theoretically possible they even wait until then for some of the reveals, but, uh, but I would, I would expect it on premiere night. That's what we've got, uh, in the past with Sari and with Rachel. So, um, you know, hopefully, hopefully we get there. Yeah, last season's premiere, if I remember correctly, ended with Rachel walking into the house. Yes. And, uh, maybe that's what we get coming up on Thursday night. Then Friday night

[01:15:01] will be a Big Brother Unlocked episode. And then, speaking of Unlocked, the Big Brother live feeds get unlocked, I believe, after the West Coast airing of Big Brother Unlocked. Um, yes, uh, actually, I don't remember if it is East Coast or West Coast, but it would make more sense that it's West Coast because they usually do that. But, uh, either way, Friday night live feeds, which means Saturday morning, first live feed update, 11 a.m. Eastern.

[01:15:31] It's gonna be fun. Very exciting. Do you know, with the YouTube live feeds on after episodes, is that gonna be on after East Coast? Uh, people are saying it's East Coast. It's East Coast. Yeah, I think that's what I remember as well for Friday, uh, that the live feeds will start after the East Coast airing of Unlocked. Uh, so, of course, uh, by the way, I'll be streaming, uh, for the start of the live feeds, uh, and, uh, and that'll be very fun. Um, but, uh, but, you know, and that might be

[01:16:00] precedent as well. If they are doing, so basically this announcement is that they are doing, uh, free live feeds on YouTube after the episodes air. To me, it doesn't really make sense to do that after the West Coast airing because so many people are watching East Coast. They're not gonna wait three hours to, like, you completely negate the entire purpose of doing it after an episode. So, to me, it would make sense if they start the live feeds after the East Coast airing, uh,

[01:16:30] and then potentially just keep it going until, like, an hour after the West Coast airing. Uh, so, like, a good, like, three or four hour chunk of live feeds on YouTube post episode. Um, and, and it's not like, oh, four hour, that's so much they're giving away because the, if you get hooked on live feeds, you, four hours is not nearly enough. So, I think the point is, get it up there on YouTube where people are and they watch live streams. You can put ads on the YouTube channel. Uh, they're going to be in the chat.

[01:17:00] They're going to be doing all kinds of stuff. You're going to attract a lot of viewers that way. They're going to watch an episode and go, oh, I can go on to, I'm not going to go on to Paramount Plus and pay a subscription, but I might go on to YouTube and check out what's happening. I want to find out what happened after this thing happened in the episode. Uh, and then, boom, you've all of a sudden, you know, kind of attracted a new hardcore fan. Yeah. It seems a little more weird on like the Sunday night and Wednesday night episodes when the live feeds are not caught up to where things are in the episode,

[01:17:31] but we'll see what they do. That's part of the attraction though, because you get on there and it's like, wait a minute, they're, they've already played the veto. Wait, what's happening? Who's going up now? Uh, and that's how they get you. So they get you. Good. Okay. All right. So that's what's coming up, uh, for the next couple of days. So we will have, uh, for Wednesday night, Thursday night and Friday night here on our HAP. Taren, I know you got a lot of things cooking up on your end.

[01:18:01] Yes. Uh, so obviously tons of big brother podcasts heading your way. We got the draft, we got the premiere recap, we got the live feed updates coming Saturday. Of course, I'll be live every single morning talking about the live feeds, giving you an update on what happened over the course of the previous day. Um, in addition to that, I stream on Twitch, on YouTube and on Patreon. Uh, I have been doing a Love Island watch this season. Uh, I am 30 episodes deep

[01:18:31] into Love Island. Uh, that's all on my Patreon. Um, if you have any, uh, interest in watching me, number one, be uncomfortable watching, uh, 20-year-olds making out, uh, with each other constantly and getting slimed for some reason. Number two, uh, constantly analyzing the relationships happening on, uh, Villa in, on Love Island with a bunch of 20-year-olds. Uh, so if you're interested in any of that,

[01:19:00] check out my Patreon. Um, and, uh, in addition to that, of course, um, thank you to everyone who bought my book, Behind the Mirror. Uh, it, it released, uh, the pre-orders released last year. It, it, uh, was published after the season ended. It became, uh, a national bestseller. So thank you all so much. It's, it's been very, very appreciated. Uh, and I just wanted to make sure I, uh, got the thank you in here because, uh, couldn't have, couldn't have gone anywhere without all of you. Yeah.

[01:19:30] Audiobook as well. I've been, uh, listening to it as we've been working up closer to the season. So check it out there too. Yes. Uh, had very fun, uh, had a lot of fun recording the audiobook. Okay. All right. So that's gonna do it for us here today. We'll be back tomorrow night for the draft. So, uh, join us then. Take care, everybody. Good one. Bye.