Christian Hubicki Reacts to the BB28 News

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[00:02:29] I'm doing great. I'm excited. We got some good stuff to talk about, Rob. We got some great stuff to talk about here today because we're here to talk with a great friend of the pod who is seeing one of his loved ones. His great friend is in the Big Brother house. Rick Devins is in the Big Brother house. And here to talk about it is his partner in crime, Dr. Christian Ubicki. Christian, how are you?

[00:02:54] Rob, I'm elated. You see, I got to watch an episode of Big Brother. So one, how could I not be happy and really intellectually stimulated? Because I learned just from Big Brother about the discovery of a new element on the periodic table, BB-tonium. BB-tonium. Yes, yes. And we will get you to fact check all of the science in last night's Big Brother premiere. Of course, and here you see Rick Devins, maybe even other people you know in the Big Brother house.

[00:03:25] But Christian, could you give us, what is your back history with Big Brother? Have you watched Big Brother before? About nine-ish years ago, I had seen a Big Brother. I believe it was BB, I guess it would be 19. Oh, one of the best. Yeah, yeah. That, I saw a little bit, I saw a little bit of that. I'm, that has been my, and that was also in the middle of Survivor casting at the time.

[00:03:50] So I was kind of into reality shows. But I think I tuned in like near the end of the season. And I think I missed whatever happens at the beginning. Whatever happens at the beginning. Yes. Dear God. I, I, I had an expectation as to what Big Brother seasons are like as watched on television.

[00:04:10] And it exceeded them. And I gotta say, it was incredibly just titillating, engaging, and colorful for my one-year-old son to watch. That's what I found. He was very engaged. Kids love dinosaurs. Did you prefer the Big Brother premiere or your accident on Survivor? Oh, I, I, I think we all prefer my accident on Survivor, but who doesn't love that?

[00:04:37] Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Christian, in your talks with Rick, could you tell, did you know this was gonna happen? I had an inkling that this was going to happen. Yes. For, completely coincidentally, I just woke up from a dream. I was like, Rick's gonna be on Big Brother. Yeah. Yeah. If, if, if you could have, uh, imparted any advice to Rick, uh, would you have had any advice for him?

[00:05:01] Well, my, my strategy was to watch Corey Wartenberger's streams on how to play Big Brother. Yes. And record them and send them to Rick as podcasts. Again, I, I had no clue explicitly, but I had a dream that he'd go on. Yeah. So I said, Rick, this might be useful to you someday. Yes. And stuff that I did. Okay. Um, so did you listen to them as you were recording them?

[00:05:24] I absolutely did. I'd say, you know, well, I had to edit out all of the ads for, for DraftKings. So I had a job to do. And so the, the, uh, so that, you know, I'm not gonna, you know, torture him in the, in the, in the pregame, you know, Ponderosa or whatever they call it for Big Brother by making him listen to that many DraftKings ads. Yeah. Christian, how do you feel like Rick is going to fare in the Big Brother house?

[00:05:44] Oh, I think that Rick is gonna, is, is going to find a way to have fun with everything. I will say, I watched Rick on this, on this episode and I, my, his reaction was very much similar to mine, which is what is going on?

[00:05:56] What is happening to me right now? He just seemed like, like there's a volcano. And I can see the emotions watching over his face. He's just like, okay, Rachel's here. Oh, I guess Rachel's not here. And I feel like the Big Brother people are like, yay, this is what we asked for. And Rick's like, I don't know what I signed up for. That is my, uh, that's my read. But, but he always had a way to find the fun in the situations. I think that once he gets acclimated, he's going to know the exact right comedy route to go with this.

[00:06:24] Well, it was my understanding that on Survivor, uh, and this is kind of like a behind the scenes thing that like before the season starts, you always sacrifice somebody to the volcano, to the Survivor gods. Oh yeah. That's, I mean, that, you know, that's, that's why Davey wasn't on the season. Right. So he was just surprised it was on the show this time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[00:06:42] Yeah. So Christian, we saw that Rick posted a, or they had an intro video from Big Brother and he's actually talking about in the Big Brother video that he's like, he's like, you're not going to believe this, but Sari told us though every day how bad Big Brother is. Uh, could, could you, uh, uh, back up that claim? Did Sari often talk about how hard the Big Brother house was on her?

[00:07:07] Every day. It was, it was, I remember, I would, I would ask her about shows and I try not to go too far on it cause I don't want to be a fanboy on the island. But it just, uh, I remember I was like, so Sari, how was Big Brother? And it's like, never do that again. I would never do that again. And I was like, oh Sari, but how was it? She's never, never. She would interrupt me to say never many times.

[00:07:31] Um, so, I mean, she, it's, it's, it's a different experience. It's built for different kinds of people, I would say. Yeah. You know, you talked about Rick always, uh, you've called Rick Devins a man of action and he's Captain Kirk. He's a man of action. But I think historically, uh, the best Big Brother games have often come from patience, waiting it out, playing the long game.

[00:07:59] How do you feel like that Rick will be able to reconcile those two things? Rick will have to find a way to make what he does work for him. Cause the probability of him actually being patient for two months, what do you say? Rob, what do you say? Go to sleep for the first half of the game? I have said that, that, that, uh, you know, we have evolved that stance, uh, that we want, like a more active player who's like, uh, going to work, building a structure now.

[00:08:29] I understood. I just, you know, a strategy evolves, but I remember generally speaking, you know, but, uh, uh, that, that, I, I don't think, and that's only going to work so long for Rick. Right. I think he'd have to navigate a different path. Um, now is there like a, and I don't think Rick, Rick is like a cult leader path, but like, there are like people who do cults in the house. Yeah. Well, that season that you watch, Big Brother 19. Yeah. That was, um, good for being a cult leader.

[00:08:53] Sure. I, I mean, I, I would recommend the cult leader route for Rick, if it's at all possible. Like if he gets rid of every other returning player and he's the cult leader, like, I don't know, or, or, or, or, I don't know. I'm workshopping strategy live and I'm seeing wincing from Taron. So, but like the, like, I think that's, if something where he's able to mold, I mean, he's, he's too kind of like honest to like do that sort of thing, but he's got a charisma about him.

[00:09:23] There is a route where like, you know, Rick, Emily and I would have just, we would have gone to the end together. We would have ride or died together. We, you know, we laid ourselves on the line for each other. If he finds that. And if like, and if you, that I, I, I'm going to try to pretend I have Big Brother knowledge now, everybody said, stand back. Everybody, everybody plant themselves on their seats. Like at near in the end game, he lines up with like a comp beast. I believe that's what they're called. A computational beast.

[00:09:50] Sure. And, and, and, and someone who's super loyal, like a, a, a, a Bowie Jean, I believe it's called or that, that something like that, you know, he has that lined up. He could have the game on, on, on, on lock or something. Okay.

[00:10:08] You're saying you want him to be Jag or a jazz, you know, honestly that Taryn, you just, but you know, Rick Evans was actually very close to winning survivor, the edge of extinction. And it would have been a very Jag like victory that it was Rick Evans was voted out of the game.

[00:10:29] He actually like Jag never left the house. Rick went to the edge of extinction for what night, nine days came back one challenges played idols was on his way to potentially winning that game. So a, a Jag like run might be Rick's best path to victory.

[00:10:47] And not a, not necessarily a bad one either. I mean, typically the returning path on big brother is that you, you do need to work with your fellow veterans for, for a period of time. Um, but obviously at some point you need to, you need to, you need to be able to position yourself to break away. And that's where like, I think the activeness comes into play.

[00:11:10] I think what we see a lot in these situations is the veterans will team up and they'll each start to accumulate their own crew of followers. And the veteran that is the veteran that is the veteran that is the most active in making sure that their people are protected and that they have the position that they need to strike in like the mid game. They tend to be the ones that come out on top.

[00:11:34] Uh, and so, you know, him and D and potentially Angela working together, bringing in people, uh, I think is a good spot to be. He just needs to make sure that D doesn't have, doesn't, isn't capable of protecting all of her people more than he's able to keep his people around. Uh, because he needs, he's going to need that protection. I think once the time comes. And he and D have a good working relationship.

[00:12:01] Like there's no bad blood after, uh, after, uh, uh, 50, as far as I, as far as I know, um, the, so I, I, I, I mean, that doesn't mean that they won't gun for each other, but I think Rick will be thrilled to see D when she, when he, when she wrote, what runs into the house. I mean, also like she puts off a much more threatening error than Rick, in my opinion. Um, the only thing with Rick is I don't know what the perception is going to be of him in the house. I know Angela is like, he's so strategic.

[00:12:28] He's so like, she was like in some confessional or sorry, DR in some DR. She was saying that how strategic he was. Um, but like, I mean, in truth, I mean, Rick's going to be playing it off. Like I'm just a goofball. He doesn't know big brother. Uh, you know, I'm a 42 year old goofball with the thing that he says, but he has been cooking up, no doubt, some kind of crazy lie to tell the big brother house about a crazy twist.

[00:12:56] Um, uh, you know, we, you know, it's, you know, idea, you know, um, you know, he had the Mr. Beast twist save him last time. And I, I did let him know that, you know, there's been a new corporate merger on the horizon with paramount with the Warner brothers with Warner brothers. So now you may, if production lets you do it again, this is all a dream I had. I told him about the, that like he, he could do all kinds of Warner brothers, DC cinematic

[00:13:25] universe tie-ins, and they might be horizontal integration with production. And so those are things that you could potentially lie about now how well that will work in the house. I don't know. So it's, uh, I mean, big brother just does these crazy twists it seems. And so I'm really curious. We'll see what kind of crazy idea he has. Yeah. I want to go back to, uh, the relationship with D and Rick Devins, because I think it's been an interesting evolution.

[00:13:51] I go back to Dalton Ross wrote a mega article previewing and reporting on your journey to Fiji in survivor 50. And a lot of that article was D talking about how she thought Rick Devins was very annoying and how he was a try hard. Now I did, it did seem like that he won her over. I don't think that they had any time in the game together. Oh no, actually they were on that merge. They were on a swap tribe together. Yeah.

[00:14:20] They were on a swap tribe together. Uh, and then, and then D was on the jury and then, uh, listen, nobody loves Rick Devins more than people watching survivor from the jury. And it seemed like that that was where he really seemed to win D over at that point when, uh, she was watching him play the game as a juror. I do think it is worth noting that, uh, while they could come into the house in, uh, a good spot, it is possible that the big brother house under close quarters, that there, there could

[00:14:48] be a return to form where D could find him annoying again. You're telling me that people having to live in a house together for all that time are going to have learn to hate their literally hate each other. I am shocked. Uh, it certainly, uh, it sounds like there's a base state for which when D is not familiar with his best antics, right. Yeah. She might return to that. I mean, and certainly if D is looking for someone to throw under the bus, Rick could be one of those people. But the thing is like D to me comes across as much more, I mean, Rick taught this.

[00:15:18] So I'd say like Jeff Probst would sometimes refer to D's win as being dominant, but also somewhat villainous, which I don't honestly believe. I don't get that off of D, but I think that some people will see D as like, oh, she is dangerous. Whereas Rick's like a, like a, like a scallywag or a scamp, you know, like, oh, that Rick, you know? And yeah. So anyway, Rick, what do you think, Taryn? What I think is interesting is that, you know, with survivor 50 having aired fairly

[00:15:44] recently, uh, as well, like there's a chance that there are some people on the cast that only know Rick from his first season, uh, and have that memory of him. And, and I think probably what D is talking about in terms of like being annoyed with him. I think that people aren't like most people at least aren't annoyed with Rick himself as much as like, he was very overexposed that season, which tends to cause some backlash in the fan base. You, if you're on the season a lot, people are like, oh, this is really annoying.

[00:16:12] Um, and he came close to winning that season. So I think there's one perception of Rick. If you remember him from, uh, from edge of extinction. And then there's a new sort of version of Rick that was like, oh, he was really loyal to his allies on 50. He did his best to keep them around and to survive as long as he could. Um, and I think he comes off of 50 with like a slightly different perception. So people who have seen that more recent version, I think are a lot more likely to, uh, to want

[00:16:41] to, to feel good about Rick. And in particular, Jason, who just spent a bunch of time on drag race, uh, maybe, maybe wasn't able to keep up with 50, uh, and maybe only knows Rick from edge of extinction. And maybe that's why he's like, oh, don't trust this man. He's, he's, you know, got some tricks up his sleeves potentially. Um, and so I think that's an interesting component to this. Yeah. I mean, I mean, the other thing is that if the, if the perceptions of Rick are mostly

[00:17:08] from 50 people might forget how many challenges Rick one in season 38. Right. He's, and also the types of challenges he wins. I, I don't know big brother challenges, but like, but he's great at carnival games. He's like the carnival game master. And I don't know if that it's like, so I don't know what the challenges are like, but like, he's shockingly good at those. So, um, if he ends up in the right spot, maybe he can win a lot of challenges. I don't know. There's, there's a lot of like run back and forth answering questions, solving puzzles.

[00:17:37] Uh, usually like a baseline level of like a cardio check on your fitness, uh, while also doing something that's relatively simple in terms of like puzzles or questions. Um, I think he's definitely capable of winning that. He's like surprisingly athletic. I think he's sort of like the guy who might get picked last in a pickup basketball game and then be like surprisingly good in that game.

[00:18:04] Which is generally a great reality show posture when you're way better than people perceive you to be. Uh, that that's often where your superpowers come from. Like you don't expect this about them. Um, but like, man, I, I, I am, I, I think that one thing I, I wish like I could have talked to Rick about if I knew anything about big brother would frankly be about casting archetypes. For being brother for big brother. I mean, you can, I, I'm a big believer in, in the structure and how people were cast for the show and how they tend to behave.

[00:18:33] Although it's hard to quantify. I think there's a lot of wisdom in that. So the big brother archetypes, I don't know as well, but like my general advice, which is relatively useless on returning player seasons, because I already know who they are, but for new people, like you judge a book basically by its cover. Like, you know, like if you get a sense that this person to you seems scheming just from a look, odds are they're more and more likely than, than your average person to be scheming.

[00:19:01] That's just the way it's, it is the gut feeling that you get that the casting director says that's a schemer. Right. And so I, so I, I, my recommendation to anyone is, and I'm, you know, I didn't get the chance to use that on my returning player season, but like Rick now can, right. If he can listen to, you know, what his casting instincts are like, you know. We know he gravitates towards like the, he said it. So on the premiere, he gravitates toward like the nerdier archetype, the nerdier players.

[00:19:29] Um, is there anyone on this cast that you see that you're like, Oh, that he might gravitate toward this person? Who's the rocket scientist? Uh, the young woman, Mallory, Mallory. That's right. Now I could see him seeing doing, doing a, doing a temperature check to see if she's like an Emily Flippin. I don't know if she is like an Emily. There's no one quite am like Emily Flippin, but he does love, he has, he likes the nerds, but he also likes people who don't take themselves too seriously, but are fun to be around. Right.

[00:19:59] Um, the people he doesn't like are phonies like that. Like if he feels like you're phony towards them, then he doesn't have it. Or if he feels like you're being, that are you being hypocritical about like, like, like, I think part of the reason that like they didn't go on with Joe is that like Joe, he felt like Joe's allowed to play survivor, but I'm not allowed to play survivor. Joe will judge me for playing survivor. Um, but like Emily is a blast with, and was like, you know what, let's just do this for chaos. Let's just vote for Sari anyway, even though it won't matter on the re-vote. Sure. Let's do that.

[00:20:29] Right. He loves those kinds of people. Um, but yeah, I, I, that's who he gravitates to. One of the things about Rick is that I feel like that he really, uh, uses tribal council as a show. I think that he is one of the players in survivor history that probably has most looked at that as an opportunity for how do I get my point across? How do I be demonstrative to the jury? In big brother, we don't really have a tribal council like that.

[00:20:57] Uh, but there are ceremonies where people make nominations or bring people, uh, put them like, uh, up for nominate or off the block with the veto. Do you think that that will be, uh, helpful for Rick that there's no formal tribal council or do you think it'll hurt him in some way? It means that he would have to make one, right? Like he has to make a stage. I mean, like certainly, I mean, I've seen people. What's that? House meeting. House meeting. I don't know.

[00:21:25] I don't know if he would call a house meeting, but like, I mean, his, he likes a stage because that he's, he's good at performing on stage. I mean, he was a newscaster for many years. He can just, you can perform on that way. Um, now I don't know the, the, how the ceremonies work. You can nominate a nomination ceremony, right? Um, I, I wonder if there's an opportunity for, I mean, cause not only just performing, it's also, can you do a stunt at their, at like, like, I'm sure he's thought of like, it was the equivalent of the fake idol hide at tribal council.

[00:21:54] Does that exist now? I, I don't think it would be the, quite the same, but I'm sure what he's thinking about is like, like, if he makes a show, like, you know, that thing you've been looking at all, all season, you know, you pull something out from behind it. It's like a hidden immunity idol. You can pretend it is a hidden immunity idol. It's like, isn't the survivor twist for the season, right? Expect something like that from Rick. I mean, cause it means he's had nothing to do, but being sequestered for all this time. He's thinking of that stuff. That being said though, I think that he is actually, um, held back by big brother where

[00:22:24] Taron, uh, tell me if I'm off base on this, but, uh, if he tries to come in and like, Hey, I've got this, uh, this, this sock idol, this is a, you know, I can pull myself off. Um, that the big brother producers in a way that they will not do on survivor will say, you cannot use production as a strategy, right? Would they, if they asked, if they asked about that, if Rick Devins is saying he has a thing in the diary room. Right. Yeah.

[00:22:48] So it's, it's a tricky line to, to balance, but basically, um, it's especially if you, if big brother has said there's a power, uh, and this person has it, but we're not telling you what it is. Uh, or like, um, like you can't pretend that your power does something that it doesn't. If, if you're trying to use big brother to back you up, uh, big brother's gonna be like, no, you can't use us as a strategy. Um, you could take a globe and imply that it has power.

[00:23:18] Um, I think you could, if you wanted to even try to claim that it has some power, as long as big brother's done nothing to imply that the globe or you has power. Yeah. Like as long as he's not using production to back him up, he can make claims. I would say the potentially bigger downfall is that unlike survivor having a power on big brother, it depends on what the power is.

[00:23:43] Like if your power is, you can try to nominate me, but I'm immune, then people will be like, okay, great. I want to burn that. I'm going to nominate you. Now you're immune. Perfect. I'll nominate someone else. Um, so something more along the lines of like, even just like an immunity idol, like, okay, great. We'll just vote you out. And if it rebounds on somebody else, great. Uh, it's harder to bluff because of how narrow the elimination options are on big brother with the nominees. Um, but I'm sure he's, he's creative guy.

[00:24:13] He can probably figure something out. Yeah. He's, he's had to work around tighter constraints than that. Like I think with, with, with survivor things and he, and like, I mean, Jeff's not going to back up your lie. I mean, Jeff, when he pulled out the fake idol, they're like, is that an idol? I was like, I'm not a player. You know, like I'm just like, I can't say anything. Um, so I mean, one thing that I'm sure that's going to come up is that like, Sari came into the house with a huge advantage having her son there secretly. Right. And so he, so he could bluff. I have a secret advantage.

[00:24:42] Now people might try to think it's like, you know, the fact that he gets to try to be HOH and he can bluff. It's like, Oh, you know, my secret advantage is if I get to like the merge or whatever they call it in big brother, I don't know that if I make it to the jury phase, I get to impart a power upon our close ally. And that's the chip that I have to give to them. Like that's a bluff that gets them further in the game. Like that sort of thing he, I'm sure he's thinking of. One thing that also could be in his favor is that they have teased that there is going

[00:25:09] to be some kind of a vote where something's going to affect the first six weeks in the game. I think that based off of his popularity coming off of survivor 50, I do think that he would be in a very advantageous position to be able to win a fan vote in this season. I think that that would be good, especially if it gives him an alleged advantage. Right. Right. And, and he, and he is also as carte blanche, like to say, this is something survivor themed he's in the show with survivor. He's on it because of the coin flip and all, all the shenanigans.

[00:25:39] He can say that the show is trying to, he could plausibly sell that the show is trying to back them up with these shenanigans. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I think it's the, the fan vote thing. It said it will last six weeks, which definitely implies, you know, um, big brother Canada has done this in the past with a similarly mixed returning, uh, cast, uh, where they just gave somebody safety until jury. Uh, uh, I don't think we'll do that, but like that's certainly possible.

[00:26:07] Six weeks would roughly track until maybe around the jury phase. Um, or it could, you know, there was a season, uh, where funny enough, Rachel Riley's sister was on the season and, uh, the audience often voted for, uh, cause every week they voted, they voted for Rachel Riley's sister, Alyssa to get a power to nominate somebody, which basically made Alyssa immune the entire time and a valuable asset to any Alliance that wanted to nominate anybody they wanted.

[00:26:34] Um, so yeah, I would say, especially given how much I'm sure big brother wants Rick and D to stick around, uh, that if there is a fan vote that impacts the game, it's more than likely to help, uh, to help, uh, Rick. Christian, how are you doing on time? You have a time for some, uh, listener questions. I do. I do. I do have some time. Okay. All right. Here is a question. Uh, this is from, uh, jewels 21.

[00:27:02] Christian, would you play big brother? Yes. If they gave me the prize money upfront, not interested for you. Three months is the big kicker. I mean, like five weeks I can swing during the summer, like the sheer impact on just my job being gone for three months, which I enjoy and like to keep is, uh, is, is, is, is, is the funny part is like, it would be catastrophic.

[00:27:32] The funny part is I, I, after my first season of survivor, I got to meet with the president of my university. Who's whose family are big survivor fans. And they're like, Oh, Christian, Christian, it's nice to meet you. Uh, my wife wants to know, would you do big brother? And I'm thinking you would have to fire me if I went on a big brother. Was this, is this, is this your plan? Do you not want me around? Just go on big brother and be gone. It's from anyway. So logistically basically impossible. How surprised were you to see Jeff pop up in the premiere?

[00:28:00] Uh, extremely, extremely surprised. Um, I mean, uh, given, given, I think Jeff's, has Jeff been on record about what he says about big brother? You know, when he said like, you know, Oh, I think he'd be great on a big brother. I thinking Jeff, do you not like Rick anymore? I thought this, I was like, is he insulting Rick? The perfect fit? Really? Yeah. Um, I was very surprised. Uh, but Jeff, uh, read the letter and I said to myself, well, at least it's not a

[00:28:29] letter from Jimmy Fallon. You know, uh, I have that letter at home. I got to keep it. So for my letter from Jimmy Fallon, uh, so that, that, that's, uh, that's in the archives for me. Okay. Uh, do you think you could call in a favor from Jimmy Fallon to do a twist on big brother to help Rick? If I could call it a favor for Jimmy Fallon, it would have been for the fan vote for a hundred thousand dollars on the last season. Really? I'm not getting any favors from him. Um, Jen wants to know, Christian, are you still visiting Rick Devins's family?

[00:28:57] I am back from Rick Devins's family. I had a wonderful time seeing them. Uh, for those who didn't see, I got to post some videos with the Rick, with the Devins's, uh, during the premiere week. Uh, and, and it was a joy. They're all, they're all doing well. And, uh, yeah, hopefully they're having a good time watching. Okay. Um, this is from Anne who says, how will Rick do if he is on slop or a have not? Uh, this is, I think he's going to do fine. Not survivors.

[00:29:26] We laugh at have not like, Oh, I'm punished. I can only, I can only eat, eat the slop. The, my understanding is that they can only have black coffee when you have slop. You can have coffee, but it's black drinks black coffee. Like that's his normal daily thing. Like, like I, I just, he's gonna be fine. Yeah. You go from, you have no food to like, Oh, you can only, you can only eat this, uh, nutrient dense porridge. Well, you gotta take cold showers.

[00:29:55] That would be a reward on Survivor. I mean, there's a, there's all those tropes about it, but it's just like, I mean, we're, we're not, we're no frills people, generally speaking, you know, it's like, like when I was on Survivor, like I wouldn't even sleep in the shelter if it wasn't, if it wasn't raining, I slept like by the fire in the dirt face down and like, and it just, you just deal with it. And so like uncomfortable bed, that's all going to be fine. It's the length that I think is going to be a chat, a duration of the, of the show. It's going to be challenged race, Robert player.

[00:30:23] I mean, Rick can pull these stunts, but he knows that's not a sustainable path to victory. Um, but I think that one of the best thing that Rick's got going for him is, you know, I didn't want to speak out of school, but this is not Rick's life dream to be on. Yeah. And therefore he's okay. If he like, you know, like he's, he's, he's playing with house money here and like, you know, you can have a fun time. That's when he's great. That's when he's best. He wasn't supposed to be on Survivor 50. He was an alternate. He got put on.

[00:30:51] It's like, well, heck, you know, I wasn't even supposed to be here. Why not go crazy? And he had a fun time. Yeah. I do wonder if I think that Rick looks at that as a perfectly viable outcome to burn bright and fast on big brother, make some moments, give people what they want. And if he happens to be back home before the jury starts, I think that that might be okay too. I think, yeah, I, you know, I think Rick being at home with his family, you know, I,

[00:31:21] I think it has its own rewards for Rick. So, uh, but not that he, Rick will always try. Rick never not tries. I mean, I talk with Emily. It's funny. We were talking, I was talking with Emily about like going on big brother and she laughed of course. And, and it's like, cause like, yes, you could go home early and, you know, not, not basically play, but I'm not, I'm never going to go on a show and not play. You know, why am I there? You know, it's, it's, you know, anyway, that's, I reckon Rick's the same way.

[00:31:49] I think it's, I think big brother can sometimes surprise people. And it even happened to Rachel last season. She'd done the show twice before and just found herself like struggling at a, at a moment and was like, I don't, I don't even know if I can do this. Like it's, it is, I think a lot harder than people anticipate, uh, especially because it's so long. Uh, and if you find yourself out of power for weeks and weeks on end, uh, and just, you're

[00:32:16] just being dragged along or you just have nothing to do, it can get real tough. Um, but, uh, but I think if anyone's like, uh, prepared to handle some tough times, hopefully it's, uh, it's, it's Rick. But not, not, I think six days on the edge. I forget how long he was on the edge, but like that, the edge probably sucked. Yeah. Uh, but yeah. Christian, did you have any other questions about big brother that maybe we could answer for you? Yes. What is meow meow industries?

[00:32:47] Yeah. So they're a pretty cutting edge, uh, company that, uh, leading the way in, in time travel, uh, back, uh, you know, a few years ago, they dabbled in a time laser, uh, prototype that, uh, did some weird things, brought us to some weird, like Christmas land. I don't fully understand what was going on with it, but, uh, clearly they've refined their technology. Uh, they've turned it into this table and, uh, and it seems like the, it's, it's been working pretty well. Like they're kind of nailing exactly where they want to go.

[00:33:17] Well, first off, I'm waiting for their IPO so I can get on, I get in on that. Uh, but the, but secondly, I mean, they more or less, you know, confirmed D by giving the date of her, what was her winning survivor 45 as like the date that they, that they transported to, uh, also who did, did I, here's the other thing. Could be Austin Lee Coon. What's that? Could be Austin Lee Coon. Could be Austin, it could be grabbing Austin perhaps.

[00:33:42] Uh, but I, I gotta say, I love how some production assistant had to consult True Dork Times to get the date that Rick Devins was voted out, uh, for, uh, for, for, for that. That's, um, you know, it's a big day for Jeff Pittman. That's all I'll say. Yes. What, which date was it? Was it the date that he lost the fire making challenge? Was that what they went back to or the date he was voted out of his original tribe? I believe it was in July. So I would say that it has to be, it has to be the fire making challenge for sure.

[00:34:08] I would like to say, I think it would have been really fun if they had given that Jeff was there and that maybe the, you know, it's easy rights swapping, but like if they had just green screened them onto the survivor episode, uh, where, where Rick was like losing fire and they're like, like trying to prevent it from happening. And I think they should do that with D too. Like D win survivor and they like, like rush her off to big brother right away. I think that'd be fun. The only challenge with that is you, I, I, okay.

[00:34:37] I think that they might have to get releases. Big brother might have to get releases from the people that they show. Uh, now I believe they showed, uh, clips of Sari from survivor, uh, when Sari was on. So I think, I think it's doable. Yeah. But I speak with malice of knowledge that you, people might have to sign releases to be shown on a big brother if they were on survivor. If that was the case, canonically, that would be D leaving, uh, to go play big brother right after she won.

[00:35:07] And so she would not, it would not be the D that even knows Rick Devins that would be playing in season 50. This is all, we, we, we got some, like some tenant shit going on. I'm sorry. Like that's, um, listen, Rob, I'm sure Enzo can explain it all away. I'm sure he understands the intricacies of the time travel paradox. Yes. Uh, Christian, have you ever given any thoughts on the mechanics of the Zingbot as a roboticist?

[00:35:36] Well, I mean, the Zingbot has now been weaponized in, in, um, uh, in, in the battlefields of the streets of America in the form of Rizbot. Yes. Rizbot is a, is an actual robot that goes around that, that, that trolls around, uh, in, in various, various sporting events and, uh, and delivers, uh, various elements of Riz, some of which are Zings, some of which are compliments, mostly Zings. And he's got a social media following. So we have, you know, the, the, the, the technology's come a long way around.

[00:36:04] Does, does the Rizbot also pass out in high heat? Oh, absolutely. I'm telling you, that's, that's a real thing. Is that a thing that happened with, with, with, with, with the Zingbot? Is that a thing? Famously, Brittany Haynes has a great story about, uh, Zingbot, uh, passing out while, while giving Zings. I mean, I mean, it's a real, you know, since I'm here and I'm wearing the robotics lab code here, I have to get robotics. So that's, that's a real thing in robots. Robots are just as limited as, as people.

[00:36:31] Uh, their, their, their, their capacity of their motors and everything folds back when they heat up, they get overheated. Batteries behave differently. So, uh, there was recently a robot just broke the, broke the human world record for running a half marathon in China and they had to dump dry ice on it at like very, at different stops. It's the, that's the cool it down. So it's a real thing. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes the person in the costume also, uh, gets completely, uh, having a heat stroke. Yes.

[00:37:00] You're implying that there's no, that there's a person inside the Zingbot, Rob. You're telling me there's no Christmas? Does Q cancel it here too? Yeah. I heard that's how they did the racing thing too. There was just somebody inside. Uh, so they were like, if they're in a robotic suit, it makes them run faster. It's just a, yeah. It's a Zingbot every season. Yes. Because always a Zingbot. Is there always an Otev? Yes. Yeah. Does it always yell about butter? No. No. Okay. All right.

[00:37:30] Is there, so there is a jury. Yes. Yeah. Is, does the jury see anything? They get, okay. So this is, this is controversial. They get sent footage, edited footage of usually the ceremonies, sometimes bits of the competitions, um, and also some goodbye messages generally that people record. Uh, but it is, it's pretty much like producer's choice what they decide to edit into those, uh, those little bits of footage.

[00:37:59] Oh, fun. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, there, there, um, are there periods where many people are in, ineligible for nomination? Like, like, uh, like, you know, like only half the house is eligible for nomination. Oh, like a bloodline? Usually just at the start. Start. Okay. All right. Yeah. All right. Got, I got the background. I, I have two literal experts. This is what I'm using my time for, to, to, to ask for these big brother questions I could have Googled. Thank you. Yeah.

[00:38:29] Christian, I do hope that we can continue to have this conversation over the course of the season. You, you, you got it, Rob, but you know, at some point, uh, you know, my, my son is going to have to tap in and just give me the, give me the, give me the Taron updates here because like he's, he's enthralled. Um, yeah, that's the colors, the slime, the dinosaurs.

[00:38:52] I mean, it's really everything that, uh, a young one, you know, one year old TV viewer could want. Can I say that when Rachel was, um, unceremoniously murdered by a dinosaur, people seemed happy. There's seen, people seemed happy in the, the other contestants are like, oh, that got she's gone. Yeah. I don't know. Rachel, I think remains somewhat controversial with the casual fan base.

[00:39:21] Uh, and apparently is very controversial with Angela herself. Oh, that's why Angela seemed really happy. I was curious about that. I did hear that the same thing happened when Kyle got medevaced on season 50. Is that true? Oh yes. We were all cheering. I think, I think I actually went into Camillo's faces. Like he's gone. He's gone. Um, at the challenge, which thankfully they cut. Yeah. The people, they, they are so thirsty for the win. They just feel like, okay, one last, it's like the hunger games, like one less person

[00:39:51] in my way to win this money. Oh, also I was, it took me a minute when they went back in time. What is my life right now, Rob? Uh, when they went back in time and, uh, and they went to, you know, the first time when the, when the Angela's passed, I was like, I thought it was D it's like, is this D in makeup? Did they have her doing a character? I was so confused. It took me a while. Cause I don't really know what Angela, like I realized, oh yeah, Angela has that sort of

[00:40:20] Valley girl type accent. I get it. It was like, but it was like, I don't think D was alive at the time. Did they, what's that? I don't think D was alive at the time. No, no, I thought I was trying to think of like, what is happening? D was like a, like, like, I don't know. I didn't want to the bar. I was like, was D serving drinks when she was 11 at Las Vegas? It's like, well, I, I, I was deeply confused, but, uh, but like I mentioned, I was like, oh, it's Rachel. They, they, they strung me, they tricked me, Rob. They got me.

[00:40:45] I would love to see young Christian in some, uh, IP reality TV show. That would be the most unremarkable footage imaginable. Here's Christian in a linoleum lab lab, like sleeping under his desk, you know, it's like, but you know, as, as he's like waiting for his code to compile or something. Yeah. That's what he would love that. Yeah. They would have you working on a prototype of Zingbot, you know, like, uh, I think it would work. Yeah. Yeah. Again, prize money up front. That's all I'm saying.

[00:41:14] Christian, I know you've been in and out with big brother, but is, uh, your incredible wife, Emily, is she a, a, uh, yearly big brother viewer? No, she, she, she had to face, I faced in and out at the same time. She was much more in on big brother when, when, during that time, the thing that was troubling for her, she, she did the live feeds and the show and it was new to her that like the live feeds in the show portray different things and felt like the show was like, you know, that was frustrating.

[00:41:41] And I think for her, she was like, I can't get this worked up over it. I have to take a break. So I like, and here's the, here's my thing. I know I, I not those amongst the fan base, but I apologize, you know, might know that I'm not the biggest big brother fan, but I would in an, in the abstract love to like consume all the live feeds. Like it seems like the live feeds game seems really interesting. I just can't justify dedicating my life to the live feeds.

[00:42:10] This is why we have Taryn. Yeah. That's why you go to the live feed update with Taryn to get those live feeds. So that, that looks interesting to me. A long form strategic game where you see everything, not the edited product is interesting. That, that's, that's what I'll say. That's the nice, nicest thing I'll say about big brother. Yeah. That's, that's a, it's a very accurate thing to say about big brother. Yeah. Okay. Well, Christian, this was so wonderful for you to stop by and talk about your thoughts

[00:42:39] about, uh, the great Rick Devins, uh, the, what'd you call him? The, the, the, the hero of Macon, Georgia. Yeah. The, the, the, the, the, the, yeah. The pride of Macon, Georgia, maybe. Yeah. So, so he's, yeah, well, we, he, I believe Macon has a Rick Devins day. They had a Rick Devins day. What is it? Oh, well, I think it was, well, when you have days, they're only on a particular year. So it's not like a gerenial day. Like that, that day. That's the day they should have gone back in time to Rick Devins day. See where, where's our check, Rob? Rob, where's our check for consulting?

[00:43:09] We have all these great ideas. I could have consulted on the time laser. Uh, I could have consulted, you know, anyway, I, so they could have licensed my patent on it, but whatever, whatever, Rob, such as life. Yeah. Okay. You have anything you want people to check out? I know you have a lot of great social media videos where you're explaining all sorts of different science breakthroughs and interesting facts. Yeah. Yeah. You can check me out on my socials at Chubicki, C-H-U-B-I-C-K-I, or just my name on particularly Instagram.

[00:43:38] But now I'm cross posting to, to even Tik TOK and Facebook and, uh, uh, and blue sky and, uh, uh, all these things. I just like doing fun science videos. So feel free to go, go check them out. If you want to learn, like for instance, you know, why, you know why the taser is called the taser? You know, people know this fact, you know, the, the, the, the taser has a weird, it's, it's called, it's named after it's called Thomas A. Swift's electric rifle.

[00:44:01] It's named after an old, yeah, it's, it's after, after an old children's book about where Tom Swift invented an electric rifle and the guy like named it after this book. And so the fun fact is that Thomas A. Swift, A is not even his middle name. So there's your fun fact for why the taser is called the taser. They faked it? What's that? I see. I thought it was short for time laser. Oh, well, you, you, you know, and then you can't do that with me. Meow Meow Industries have a taser?

[00:44:30] No, they, well, they have, they hold the patent on other devices that are named the same thing. Yeah. Okay. If, if Meow Meow Industries contacted you for some consultation, would you, would you pick up the phone? Probably up front. Okay. All right. Well, Christian, thank you so much for stopping by. We appreciate you so much and I'll talk to you soon. Okay. Take care. Okay. All right. And then of course, for everybody else who's here with us, Taryn, I know that you are about

[00:44:57] to be underway with live feed updates starting on Saturday. You're about to go into your lab and be watching live feeds nonstop. Yes. Uh, they start tonight and, uh, oh boy. Yeah. Here we go. All right. Thank you so much for joining us for this conversation with Dr. Christian Ubicki. We'll talk to you soon. Bye.