Big Brother 27 Premiere Recap

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[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_12] Coming to you live from my apartment, it's Rob Has a Podcast. And now here is a guy who needs so many accomplices. I am Rob's sister Nina. Hello everybody and welcome back. It's Big Brother Premiere night and what a night of surprises and mysteries we have and so much to break down. We're so happy to have you here with us for another season of Big Brother here on Rob Has a Podcast. And back in 2010,

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_12] I first podcast my first season of Big Brother and it was a season with Rachel Riley. And here we are 15 years later, right back where we started, baby. As Big Brother 27 is here and we have so much to talk about here with a man who is just getting his summer started. It's the incredible author of a great selling book. It's China After Return. How are you?

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_03] Rob, I have deep shame. Why? I did not come to this podcast prepared with a red wig. Do you have wigs? You've never worn a wig on the podcast. Well, no, but I've never been able to podcast about Rachel Riley on Big Brother. So if I had, I would surely have a red wig to wear.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_12] Welcome to the club. Yeah. So Rachel did what? Big Brother 12 and Big Brother 13. And it feels like she's played more since then because I think she's done three seasons of The Amazing Race and so many other programs. And of course, the traders since then. But this is this is really it that she hasn't played Big Brother since then.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_03] She hasn't. She was really she really should have been on All Stars. She should have been on All Stars. Did not work out with timing.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_12] Yes. OK. And pregnancy got in the way. Yes. OK. And of course, Taryn is riding high this week because the book is doing incredibly well.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03] Yes. Thank you. If you haven't heard, I wrote a book about Big Brother called Behind the Mirror. I'm very excited about it. We just launched the preorders. You can go and preorder one now. It would be very cool if you did.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_12] OK. All right. Well, we got to talk to the voice of the people last night. She's back after the draft. Melissa Denny is here. Melissa, how are you? I'm muted. Oh, got her. Great start. Yes. Try to mute the voice of the people.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_09] You'll never meet the voice of the people. It was the mastermind.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_03] Which one of us is the accomplice?

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_09] Someone here is the accomplice. No, I'm doing so great. I'm so excited for the new season. I'm so excited to be back. Yeah, this is this is very exciting. I was shocked by the end twist. So I felt like I already knew what was coming and then I did not know it all. So, yeah. Nobody knew. Very exciting.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. OK. We will talk about the identity of the accomplice in so much more in just a moment. But first, here with us for the first time in Big Brother, of course, our great friend, Asia Welch is here. Asia, how are you?

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_08] Hello. I am doing well. I'm very excited to be here. I was really excited for this season to start because I just can't wait to talk about it. I can't wait for feeds. It feels like all is right in the world. I, for one, was very shocked to see Rachel on our screens. Right. Worst kept secret, right?

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_12] No. Yeah. It really started to heat up earlier in the week. I think that there was talk with Tucker, Angela. But as the days went on and the clues came out that it really did start to look more and more like Rachel Riley would be the 17th house guest. But wait, actually, what the hell? What? Rachel is actually not the 17th house guest is actually the 16th house guest.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_12] And then a different person is a faker. Is it an accomplice? Are they Ainsley? Are they a real person?

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_03] So there's 15 regular house guests. There's one Rachel and one accomplice. Rachel was added before the accomplice because the accomplice's final task was adding Rachel to the cast. And so now the accomplice has officially become the 17th house guest. Rob, it seems pretty simple to me.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_12] I still have Rachel in the draft, right?

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_03] Is there a way I can say no?

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_12] That is not up for debate. That is not up for debate. We have so much to discuss here tonight. And we're so happy to have you here with us. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast because we have so much stuff coming your way over well over 100 podcasts coming your way here on these this massive season of Big Brothers. So make sure you subscribe to RHAP wherever you listen to podcasts. Rob is a website dot com.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_12] Of course, we know Big Brother and on YouTube RHAP. All right. I want to start off with the question of the hour because I do have a feeling that maybe this could get cracked by the Internet sleuths. Of course, we may we may find out sooner and they'll say, well, Rob, how did you know?

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_07] How do I find out? Twitter.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah, that's how I find out. Who is the accomplice? Let's let's let's start to crack this case right now.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_09] Is this one of those things where they're like, oh, they helped me turn off the lights and do this stuff. But it's really like they actually didn't do anything. They were just like a quote unquote accomplice, but they didn't actually like get up and like turn on the light to do something.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_03] There will be some like B-roll of them when everyone else is in lockdown, like flipping some switches. Yeah. Is I think the worst case scenario.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking that like for so with the lights, I rewound the tapes and I went and looked. Everybody was sitting down. So I think it's, you know, like Taryn is saying somebody pressed the button to start the countdown, which leads me to believe that it would be someone that's in that first group who walked in the house first.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_09] Do we see the first countdown after the first group went in? Because if that's true, then I think you're right. That like some they it would have started after they came in. There's Taryn said there's going to be some B-roll of them like starting the clock or whatever.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_12] I could have sworn the timer was ticking when the first people came into the house because that Kelly, Amy, Zach and Adrian come into the house and I have my notes that a timer is ticking.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_10] Hmm. Hmm.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_03] That won't that won't necessarily stop them from showing B-roll footage. Sure.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_10] Sure.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_12] OK, let me start with my first theory. OK, if I can open up this discussion, I'd like to say that I think that the accomplice must be a woman. And my reason for that is that we add Rachel to the cast. Now we have nine women in the house, only eight men. And if the accomplice was to be revealed and it was a man, would we start the season with nine women and seven men? Wouldn't hate it. Well, OK, wouldn't. Hey, sure. Sure.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_12] There's plenty of. But would the producers of Big Brother make a season that had nine women and seven men to start?

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_09] I mean, like what's the chance that it's just Rachel? Like, you know what I mean? It's like she's just the accomplice and it doesn't really mean anything. And it's just kind of like, no, she's the accomplice.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_13] It can't be Rachel.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_08] It can't be Rachel because I think that'd be too on the nose. Also, did you look at Rachel's face when the masked man said Rachel is not the 17th house guest? She looked like, are you serious?

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_03] Like, what are you talking about? I dressed up and everything.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_12] All right. Are we able to work within this? My theory that this the accomplice is a woman and we can, but I have another theory.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_03] Yes, I do think it's the best like logic that we have currently. But maybe Asia will convince me otherwise.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_12] Yes, Asia.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_08] OK, I unlike the three of you. Right. I didn't do the draft. Right. So I did not do pre prep on these people. I just said, I'm going to take what I get on the episode, on the premiere. But of course, social media plays clips from different interviews and stuff. And the wildest person who had the wildest answers that I saw were Adrian. No, wait, not Adrian. What am I saying? Yeah, it wouldn't have been Adrian because that's yeah. No, no, no.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_08] It was Adrian. Yes. It was Adrian. Yes. Big brother player of all time. Big brother player. He has played that he will play the greatest game you've ever seen. Like who talks like that? I mean, he could just be a quirky guy, but I think to come in with that type of confidence, like I can just say whatever because I know I'm part of the twist. Yeah, that's something.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_12] Here's a question that I have about all this. Last year we had Ainsley came into the house. Now, like the woman who came in as Ainsley was also not a real person. So this was this is a fake person. Can we presume that whoever is the accomplice was an actual person who wanted to be on Big Brother? And then I'll let Eric Stein in Big Brother seven. They came to them and said, hey, we have a twist.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_12] You're the accomplice and do this or you're off the show and we'll go to somebody else. Yes. Do we presume that that's correct? That's what I think. Yeah.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_08] And what better person to go to than the man with the wall comp in his backyard?

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_10] Mm hmm.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_09] I don't think any of those people like so I feel like the second the Ainsley person came on, it was like, that's an actor.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_10] Mm hmm.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_09] But I feel like these people, I believed them in their preseason interviews. Like they were were not like acting. They didn't have a script. They were being genuine in their interviews. And it's possible that they were just like, yeah, just be yourself and then you'll be an accomplice. But like, I don't think they hired an actor. I think that these are all legit people who are trying to be on the show. So and then they just happened to.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_12] Can I give you another suspect?

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_09] Yes. Yes.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_12] All right. What do you think of Ava as the person who is the accomplice?

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_03] It's a flashy, flashy pick.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. I also think and I know a lot of people pay attention to that. The BIPOC representation on the show. Do it. Would they be so, so flippant as to make some potentially lose another. You know, I would. Of color from the cast. You think that they would play like loosey goosey?

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_03] The just to be clear, the diversity initiative is no longer a mandate in case nobody knows. Was not met.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. Apparently it was. Yeah. You can very much tell. Morgan. The only thing is Morgan. That's her name, right? Yes. I'm getting confused. Okay. I was like, wait.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_12] Morgan is a big suspect though for me.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. Yeah. To me now too, because now I'm thinking, I'm thinking back through all their confessionals and all everything. Hers were definitely the most.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_12] I'm a gamer. I'm not going to tell people. Also.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_09] And then she said, I'm also like keeping secrets or whatever. She said something like that. Like I'm a mystery. She said that in their confessional. Like I could absolutely see her being like, see guys, I told you I was a mystery. Like I, I now I'm thinking it's Morgan. I think it's Morgan.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_12] Also, I think somebody who lives in Los Angeles also very likely to have been the person and Morgan, uh, Taryn, as you talked about a very successful Twitch streamer, what the hell does she need this for? Uh, why is she, she's not even a big, a big, big brother fan. Why, you know, why is she here?

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_08] Solved it. Mystery solved. She seems very polished. Like I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that in all their confessionals. I'm like, these people are not set up to be like, oh, and then the da da da da da, which is why it sounds so like corny and like rehearsed because it's like, oh, that's not typical. But Morgan's DRs are like, they feel authentic. I believe her, you know? So I think you're onto something.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_03] I do think Morgan is a good pick. If they're looking for somebody that is going to be able to like deliver the right kind of performance. Um, but I have another, I have another suspect. Yes. Hear me out. Uh, Rob, I'm following your logic that it's more likely to be a woman and perhaps also more likely to be somebody who is a big fan of the show. Um, you know, got a little more leverage over them to do this.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_03] What about our resident as a super fan, Lauren?

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_12] Hmm. Hmm. I feel like that she was so under edited when she got into the house. Like, I kind of feel like that whoever it is, I think that we probably would, I would guess they're in the top five of confessionals given tonight.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_07] And how do I find out? Twitter. Mm-hmm.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_08] How did you do that? I saw your hands, Rob.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_10] Believe it or not.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_08] It's an accident. It was so perfect.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_12] I thought you did it.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_09] And how do I find out?

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_12] Who was the saboteur? Yeah.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_09] Who was the accomplice?

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_12] Who was it? Come out. The mastermind. So, I don't know, maybe as we go through talking about all this, we'll find out more about it. I just, I think that there's also a world where somebody who wants to be on the show so badly that they come to them and say, hey, how do you really want to be on the show? Guess what? We're giving this to you.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_08] That's why I think Adrian.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. People are also saying it was actually Lauren who answered the phone.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_08] Oh. It was, but I saw them mouthing what Julie was saying. So, it almost seems to me it was played out loud and not just on the phone.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_08] But maybe, yeah, I don't know.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. Well, all right. We have an accomplice. Also, we have not spent enough time talking about Rachel Riley is here. We opened the show talking about it. Taryn, I know you must be pumped up to see typically that returning house guests, one returnee in a house of newbies, not always met with a positive reception. But I think people are excited.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. I mean, I want to be clear because I have been talking about this a little bit and I keep saying like I'm like pumped for like my friend Rachel, who's a great person and is super excited to be on the show. And then I feel like I'm getting responses of people who are like, I disagree with you. It's like, hold on. Do I want it to be in this format where there's like a winner of the show coming back with a full cast of new players? No, I would have preferred her to be on All Stars.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_03] But I am super pumped to see Rachel because Rachel, like if people don't know this about Rachel, she played the game obviously twice, season 12 and 13. She never left the community. She has been an avid, passionate fan ever since. She has been, you know, coming on to podcasts. I one of my very early podcasts in season 17 was with her and she was super nice.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_03] She and like that was back in the days when like people didn't do podcasts, you know, like she wasn't doing our podcast to promote her podcast. She was doing it because she loved the show.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_12] Right. I think that Rachel Riley is probably if you went through like the all time like guest appearances on Rob as a podcast, I think she may also be like a top five Rob as a podcast appearance person.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. As far as like reality stars go. And she really wanted to do it when she couldn't do all stars because she was pregnant. She was like, but what if what if it doesn't matter? Like what if I'm pregnant and it's fine? Like she loves this game. She loves this show. And and I'm so like over the moon that she gets to come back and and play again, because I think that it'll be really fun to watch her.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_03] I also think that for what it's worth, it has been quite a while. Like, yeah, like something like 15 years since she's played the game. And I think that she has really like changed as a person, not like changed, changed. But she is, I think, becomes like smarter in terms of game analysis. She's really like studied things. We saw her on the traders. And I thought that that was like such an interesting distilled version of Rachel that was still over the top and exciting, but also a little more game savvy than you're maybe used to.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03] And I think that that's really cool. And I'm excited to see what she does.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_12] I'd love to talk a little bit about the historical context of Big Brother when we bring back one person who's played before in a house full of newbies. And so we certainly have Jesse in Big Brother 11 and we have Paul in Big Brother 19. Am I missing a time another time when that happened? We had the code. We've had like four.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_03] Just one player. Yeah, I think those are. Or three.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_08] I mean, but you can't. Yeah.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_12] And I guess, yeah, Sari to some degree is a similar. I mean, Asia, how do you think this is going to go with Rachel being the one veteran in a house full of all new players?

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_08] I think the confessional, like all the DR sessions were like a very clear sign about how excited they were. Like there was a minority of people, mainly Jimmy, who were like, oh, my gosh, like we should be terrified. Like, why are you all so excited? So I think that if she can get in enough to where people are starstruck enough to like just want to be around her. I think there are enough fans on this cast for that to help her and her not to like for.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_08] I think it'll be harder to turn those people into like, no, Rachel has to go in the beginning. So I think it could fare well for her in the beginning part of the game of them just like still like, oh, I still can't believe I'm in a house with Rachel.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_11] Yeah.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_08] And I and I think her recent appearances help in like relevancy. Like it's it had in their minds. It's not like, oh, 15 years ago. Like like you said, Taryn, like with her being on the traitors, I feel like that left people wanting more of Rachel.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. And if we go back to even Paul in Big Brother 19, that the people who were like the vocal people against Paul early were people that did not go well for them. They ended up being very targeted early. Yeah. And we saw Jimmy talking about how like, why are you excited? Why are you happy? Like everybody should be afraid that Rachel is here.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_12] Melissa, do you think that Jimmy is going to be a problem for Rachel and perhaps vice versa?

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah, I'm a little worried about that, I guess. I think that like it's going to be interesting to see how this goes, because I feel like I'm well, first of all, I'm so excited to have Rachel in the house. I like Taryn said, like I didn't I wasn't podcasting, first of all, when Rachel was playing, number one.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_12] And number two, I was a lot of our podcasters weren't born the last time Rachel was playing.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_09] Oh, don't say that.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_03] That can be true.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_09] Don't that's embarrassing. Yeah, that definitely can't be true. No, that's so wrong. But also, like I wasn't watching live feeds at the time. So I feel like I'm very excited because I've never seen Rachel on the live feeds. And it's just it's going to be so fun to watch. And because it's just it's fun to watch people who love the game and who are like big fans of the game and who are like excited to be there and want to play. And Rachel is definitely that. So I'm very excited about that. But I think you're right.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_09] It already looked like Jimmy was even not just in his in his diary room session, but like when he was like confronting her on the couch, not like confronting, but just kind of being like, well, where were you? What you were in the HOH room, weren't you or whatever? And it's like he already was about to go at it. So I think that's going to be an interesting dynamic for sure.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_12] Is it worthwhile to just give sort of a reset of who Rachel is as a player for people who may not have seen her age? Is that possible? Do you think that there are a lot of people watching Big Brother 27 that may have never seen Rachel play?

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_08] Oh, very possible. It's a trend going around on TikTok right now that new Love Island fans are coming over to see what Big Brother is all about. So they probably were like, who is this? Yeah. I hope they do give like a short little history lesson for people, at least. Did they say that the Friday episode is starting this week or next week?

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_12] I don't believe. Yeah, I think next time.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_08] OK, so, yeah, I think it is. I think it is important for people to know this is the Rachel Riley. I know that there was a brief like, OK, she was on season 12. She won season 13, but they don't know her essence. They don't know that she is like the competition beast that she is. Like, they don't know that she is. She says what's on her mind.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_12] Rachel, yeah, as a player is extremely competitive. We'll be going for if she was in that HOH, she would have been going for it. She would not have been one of these people trying to throw it. So she is a challenge beast and a threat to win every single comp that she is in. Also, Taryn, she does not mince words that she is not confrontational for the sake of being confrontational.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_12] But if she has an issue with somebody, she's not going to keep it a secret.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. I mean, the thing to know about Rachel is that she was introduced to the show in season 12 as this bombastic character who got into a showmance very early with future husband, Brendan. And like every time someone got evicted, she would leave them goodbye messages saying no one gets between me and my man. And people were like, what do you mean?

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah, why are you like this? And when Julie says preseason of Big Brother 27 that it's a polarizing character, it felt a little weird to think of Rachel as polarizing. But it is true. Back in the day, Rachel was pretty polarized. Very polarizing. She had a lot of haters because she was too over the top and too dramatic.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_03] And people really thought she was just kind of like, I mean, the thing is that even I would say even her haters have to agree that she was good TV, that she was either like somebody that you loved to watch or that you like hated or loved to hate, I guess I would say. She caused drama. She got into a bunch of fights. She won a bunch of competitions between her and Brendan.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_03] She was evicted, but then came back via a mini saboteur twist and caused some more chaos. And then they brought her back a season later with Brendan again as vets. And she was the same Rachel. Only this time she had the backing of the vets and a bit more cachet in the house, won even more competitions and did take away a fairly controversial win.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_03] Um, but, uh, but ultimately cemented herself and, and Jimmy said it, and we confirmed it in the big brother retrospective off season podcast series that she is on the Mount Rushmore of big brother. Uh, and she then went on to play on the amazing race multiple times, uh, made her, made her a star of herself there as well. Um, so she's just phenomenal. TV is kind of the bottom line.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. And so she will give us also very fun feeds as well.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Can I just say I was 18 when Rachel played the first time, uh, in 2010 and now I'm 33. Me and Taryn are 33. Birthdays are close. Yes. Um, for those that don't know, just, just explain. Yeah. Um, how lucky are we that we are living in a time where these people that we grew up watching,

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_08] when we were in such a different place in our lives that we can continue to see them on reality television because they just knew what they were doing back then when, with casting gold, like getting to see like, uh, uh, uh, Danielle Reyes, getting to see Brittany Haynes again. Now we're getting to see Rachel again. And like, obviously there's the survivor line of it all.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_08] Um, but it's just like getting to see these people play again in whatever capacity and now getting to see Rachel in this new era. It's going to be a completely different Rachel, I believe still competitive, but just like, she's a mom now. Like this is a new evolved Rachel that we get to watch. So how lucky are we that we invested ourself in a show that like just paying off years later? It's, it's amazing.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02] Yeah. They do a good job.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_08] Okay.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_09] I'm very excited. I totally agree. Although I was thinking to myself, I was like 2010, I swear. I thought I was like a kid when I saw Rachel play. I was not, I was 20. I was like, I was like, man, I was so young. And then I'm thinking like, actually I was not that young.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. It was the summer of my, after my high school graduation, big brother 12.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_09] Was it? I see. I, okay. So after Rachel played, you know, Brendan worked at UCLA at the like hospital there. And he, I saw that I was going to UCLA at the time and I saw them in the Trader Joe's parking lot. And I was like, should I say something? And I didn't say anything because I was too nervous. But you know, I, that was, that's my big story is I saw them in the Trader Joe's parking lot. Okay. In Westwood.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_12] Rachel becomes our 17th player of the season that we found out about whether or not she's a 16th or 17th house. Guess we'll leave that to Wikipedia to tell us, but you know that there were hints that were coming out about Rachel Riley's appearance here on big brother.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_12] But perhaps the earliest came this winter when Rachel herself right here on Rob has a podcast gave us a huge clue that none of us put together at the time. Sam, do you have the clip ready to go? Here we go. Here's a Rachel Riley appearing with Pooja and me talking about the Traders.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_06] Well, I just did the worst cooks of America and then I'm working in casting and you never know. I mean, you'll be seeing me soon on another show.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_12] Is that an exclusive? Are you dropping that? Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_06] I know for sure. So you will be seeing me soon on something else. What's left that you haven't done? You know, maybe it's doing something else again. I don't know. You never know. There's plenty that I haven't done though.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_12] Wow. Okay. All right. My mind is blown. Okay. Rachel, my mind was blown.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_11] It was right there. That's so exciting. How did I miss that?

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. Did you at all suspect big brother? No. Were you just like...

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_12] Like, why? Okay. Why would they randomly bring Rachel Riley back?

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_09] That's so funny.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_03] I think the biggest thing is the idea that she'd know for sure that much time out. I don't know. Casting is usually way more annoying about confirming things.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_08] Okay. Not with Rachel Riley.

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[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_12] Let's talk about everything else tonight. We got to see our 16 house guests move in and we can talk through the night. We talked through everybody yesterday. Asia, we didn't get to talk to you on the Big Brother draft. Who are some standouts for you?

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah, so I know we talked about Morgan at the beginning, but I think that if she doesn't overthink this game, I think she can do really well. I could see a lot of people not... I could see a lot of people, because she's going to present herself as a mystery, I could see a lot of people not...

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_10] Steer her, they said.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah, estimating her correctly. So maybe underestimating her. Actually, I like Ava too. She made me bust out laughing during the episode when she was like, he was like, oh, do you want to play for H-Wed? She's like, no, I think I'll sit this one out. Like, it's just like a choice. She seems fun. I want to learn more about Mickey.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_08] I think it's so funny that Ashley has this long-term relationship with Hannah, Chata, like known each other since preschool. So it felt like I was seeing like elements of Hannah. Just like if you grow up in the similar places, you have shades of each other. Let me see about the guys. You know, Zach seems like a handful. Why a handful? He just seems... He hugged Julie.

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_08] Was she expecting that?

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_12] I think she... We called that Zach was going to be Julie's favorite from the start.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_08] I mean, he did... Like, that was a tight embrace.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_03] We know Julie likes to start with air hugs. That was COVID.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_08] COVID? No more. So, yeah, I think Zach is going to be somebody... Like, he reminds me of Matt, where it's just like Matt from last season. Where... Right. Where it's just like he knows... Like, he thinks that everybody is feeling him the way that he's feeling himself. So I think it'll be interesting. Like, once things calm down, maybe if he is like a little bit more... I don't know. I don't know. If he... Like, as charismatic as he thinks he is...

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_03] Well, according to his boss, he's a simp.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_08] I can see that. Yes. That makes sense.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. Well, we found out about some people looking for showmances and who was going to try to avoid showmances. A lot of family members said don't get in showmances. But yeah, as Tara mentioned, Zach's boss tells him... Zach, you cannot simp over any girls when you enter that house. Who is this boss? Yeah. Yeah. What's up? Hi. Can I get an HR? HR. Absolutely. My boss just told me don't simp in the house.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_08] And he immediately did within the first five seconds.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_12] Oh, my God. Agent, maybe the boss knows him pretty well. Yeah. You know?

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_11] He was like, ah.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_12] It's like, maybe this was like really good advice. It's like, hey, Zach, can I just give you one piece of information? This is going to be a great opportunity for you. You know how you do that thing where you simp for every woman you meet after five minutes?

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_08] How many women at work have you had a crush on?

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_12] I remember, Rob, when you told me that great advice back in the day. I said, Taryn, Taryn, here's the thing. Do not. Whatever you do, stop. Don't do it.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_09] Don't do it, Taryn.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_12] Yes. Be aloof, I said to Taryn. And that was like the first day he started. He's like, OK, I'll try it on.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_03] I'll see. He's like, welcome to the podcast. Here are some here's some tips. Don't be a simp. So 10 years. The advice is done well. Good advice.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_08] Great job, Taryn.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_03] OK.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_08] Oh, I also want to point out Will, who is a sports podcaster for the Gamecocks, South Carolina Gamecocks. If anybody follows me on Instagram, you know how much I love women's basketball. And so I just think it's amazing to see a man covering a woman's woman's sport. Don Staley out there. Best college women's basketball coach. So I think that's a pretty cool job.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Just a regular guy with a podcast. That's what he says.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_08] Living the dream.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_12] Captain Will. OK.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_09] I feel like I was very impressed. Sorry. I was just going to say I was I was a lot more impressed with Catherine than I was during the preseason. I felt like I really liked her.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_10] That's why she's a top halfer.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_09] Well, yeah, apparently that that was a correct placement. But I I really felt like I got to know her a lot better. And obviously I liked when she started out saying that she was a raging feminist. But I feel like I she seems like she has a lot more personality than we saw in the preseason interviews. Same with Amy. She's a lot she has a lot more personality than she did in the preseason interviews.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_09] I feel like her preseason interviews were a lot of just her being like, you know, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know. I might be good. I might be bad. And now I feel like she's a lot louder for sure. I mean, I I felt good about her, but it seems like Kelly is kind of rubbed the wrong way a little bit.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. With all due respect to the team that put out the preseason interviews, I think that it's like maybe like the B and C team that just like ran through the preseason questions. And then I think we got like the A team producers like asking them the questions in the diary room for tonight.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah, because I thought Amy was a lot better also than what we were getting from her in the diary. She was like very lively.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah, definitely. And when she was talking about her family.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_12] Mm hmm. Yeah.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_09] Okay.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_12] Taryn, anybody from your draft team that you were surprised positively or negatively by?

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03] I was I was happy to see Lauren talking about being such a fan. You know, she definitely does seem like she's going to be the person they constantly say. Can you just say that again? But introduce yourself as a super fan. She has an H.O.H. robe, Taryn. I thought that was cool. Yeah. Um, so I was very happy to see that. I thought Ashley was everything that I was hoping she would be so far.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_03] I love that Ashley, apparently one of the few people who is willing to even be chosen to play in the H.O.H. Like I get it. You don't want to be the H.O.H. I think that's still probably a mistake, but at least try to be chosen to play in the H.O.H. There's no downside. If you if you lose, you still get to look even worse at competitions and you can make a deal and bond with the other people who are guaranteed to become H.O.H. Like, why are you telling me don't why are you telling don't pick me? I was so annoyed.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_12] But I like that Ashley was willing to get picked. What did you think, Taryn, about that? We found out something about Ashley tonight that we didn't know in the preseason about her weakness will be a boy.

[00:38:45] Hmm.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_03] I think that's fine. I think people dramatically over like dramatize how bad it is to be in a showmance, how bad it is to like be connected to somebody. I think she gets into a showmance. Good.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_12] Like for you who win the veto. Give it to you.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_03] Right. Like I don't think it's that big of a problem. Honestly. Yeah.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_12] Let me look through some of these other folks. You know, we haven't talked about Mickey too much yet tonight. And Mickey came in and was a lot of fun. Although that Mickey did have a really interesting take about Riley.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01] Also, I'm clicking with Riley. He's giving a Brad Pitt Western cowboy. And I love that.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_08] Whoa. That was shocking. All it is is Beyonce is on her cowboy Carter tour right now. Mickey is feeling inspired. That's what it has to be. Because otherwise, I was so caught off guard.

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_12] Was Mickey also the person that talked about Drake? She did say that she doesn't know what's going on. She said that maybe Drake dropped a new album. Drake and Brad Pitt. She's really working. Got her finger on the pulse. Yeah.

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_09] But I just did not expect her like and him. I did not. I mean, if that ends up being a showman.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_12] Especially after she said, you know how many men there are in Atlanta? I didn't come here for a showman.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_09] She was literally sitting there being like, I'm not going in here for a man. I don't need that. I have too many men. Who is that? Riley. Yeah. It's like the second she gets in the house, she's like, boom.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_08] And then she wore his hat the whole premiere. Yes. Oh my God.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_12] And Asia, Riley.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_08] I don't know what you're going to expect.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_12] Riley is open. If a woman catches my eye, I'm human. What am I supposed to do? What is he supposed to do? He's human.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_08] Just naturally. I mean, you know, if those two hit it off, that would be something to see. And I would I mean, and hopefully they hold off until Sunday so we can just watch it naturally develop on the feeds.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_09] Oh my God. That would be like such a strange pairing, although we have seen very strange pairings before. So, you know, I I would not. I say that's shocking, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah, I love I love Mickey's locks. I have to point that out. Um, and yeah, if Riley, the guy who is, uh, really wants to meet Mr. Pectacular.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_12] Yep.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_08] That's who Mickey is, uh.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_08] Simping for.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_12] Look, he has a big heart. Mickey. Riley. Was that a hint that Rachel Riley was coming?

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_11] Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_12] Please. Could Riley be the accomplice?

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_11] Maybe it's Mickey. Yeah.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_12] Hmm. Maybe. Do you think that they get any extra money to be the accomplice? Like other than they say you can't be on the show? What was it in for the accomplice? I agree.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_03] This the idea that they were like, you have to accomplish these tasks or you don't make it onto the show. First of all, that's not true. That's there's no chance that the lights were not going to go out. There's no chance that Rachel Riley was not going to join the game. Um, but this idea that like, basically you've just chosen a player to be like, okay, so everything's the same, except if everyone chooses that they don't like you in the beginning, you just leave. You don't even have a chance to win any competitions or anything. It's like, well, what's the, what do you get?

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. They didn't really talk through the mechanics of how this is going to work. How will the house decide who is the accomplice? Will there be like a vote on Sunday night of who is the accomplice? And everybody goes like, uh, I choose, uh, I vote to evict, uh, sadly vote to nominate, uh, Keanu as the accomplice.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_03] I think it'll be like school of lies style where like, uh, you go into the diary room and you make your, like, I think it's.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_12] But Taryn did 16 or 17 different people are going to make a guess. And then if anybody gets it right, then that, then the accomplice is out. I think it has to be a majority, right?

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. And I feel like they are wrongly banking on, they're just not going to get it. They said the majority of the house guests.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_12] No, we, I don't think we got a clear answer. Unless I missed it.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_03] I don't know. I thought what she said was if the majority of them figured out, then you're there. And then you're out, but I could be wrong.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_12] But you know what they're going to love to do is that then, okay, they didn't figure out the accomplice. Then Julie is going to love that moment on eviction night where she's going to get to show them who the accomplice was. That's going to be a big reveal every week.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_03] That's the thing about the accomplice, right? My thing about it is for as much as we're trying to figure it out, the bottom line kind of is, uh, and, and we may or may not get this, but like. Like you, you kind of just vote for the person that you don't click with the most. Right. Like, right. It's like, well, if they are the accomplice and we get them voted out, great. If they're not, oh, well, there's no skin off our backs.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_12] Like, what if the accomplice is like your number one ally? Exactly. Like, why do I want them to leave? Like, I don't care. They turn the lights off. So what?

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_08] Unless the accomplice, like, I feel like the most impactful thing is if the accomplice is like taking money out of the 750,000. Yeah.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_09] Or like, and the thing is, is also like, are these tasks that the accomplice is doing, are they going to be like things that you could actually catch them doing?

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_12] Is it ongoing? Or it was just, is the mastermind having them do stuff all season?

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_09] I don't know. And I feel like it's like, if they aren't things that you could actively like either catch them doing or like have reason to suspect someone is doing it. Like, I don't know how you would do it other than just a blind guess.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_12] Well, I do think that there is some interesting Big Brother poetry in Rachel Riley coming back because in Big Brother 12, Rachel Riley's original season, that the twist was the saboteur. And there was Annie, the saboteur, who was the first boot, who I believe was on the hammock with Brendan and Rachel, where that all got started. So it is interesting to have a saboteur-like twist be the season in which Rachel Riley makes her full circle return to Big Brother.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_08] Very interesting.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_12] It was also a colossal flop. Right.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_08] Which is why I feel like the things that the accomplice did were not things that they actually did. So it makes it impossible for them to figure out who this person is.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah, I have a feeling there's like no way that they would want this twist to flop and the person just go home. Like, I really think that they would want the person to become the 17th house guest. I feel like that's the big draw is like, this person is this accomplice and now they're a house guest. Yeah.

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_12] Why wouldn't they want the 17th house? Because they get to have two double evictions. They don't have to have zombie week. Like, this is great.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Like, if you think of, like, who would have been the, like, season 25, right? Who do they think is the accomplice? It's Kristen. Or Kirsten. Kristen. Kristen. It's the first boot, right? Who in season 24 do they think is the accomplice? Probably Taylor. Who do they think in season 23?

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_03] Like, I just think that, like, pretty much you're just going to all, all the person you're planning to kind of take out early anyway is the person you're going to think is the suspicious one that needs to be taken out and you're probably going to vote for. Uh, so it's just hard to imagine a world where they're like, well, we all love this person and we all want to work with them, but I think they're the saboteur or the accomplice. So I guess we'll vote them out. Like, I just don't see that happening.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_08] It can't be somebody with such a big personality, but it is somebody that we saw enough, which is why I do think it was, like, on the Morgan suspicion when she immediately explained what the accomplice was right after the thing. Um, I think, I mean, unless she just comprehends things really well, um, it was, you know, it's a lot of things happening at once. So it was fair of Jimmy to be like, wait, why did you do that? Or why do you know that?

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. Let's talk about some of the other house guests that we haven't spent too much time talking about so far. Jimmy, you just brought up Asia. Jimmy had a big night, uh, looked like that he was on his way to being HOH before Vince ultimately won it. But Jimmy seems like that he's going to be a lot of fun.

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_08] He does.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_08] I don't, I, I, he does seem like he's going to be a lot of fun. He could be a Reagan 2.0 for Rachel.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_12] Oh no.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_08] As like her adversary. Um, it, I, and I do think it was an interesting choice to choose to play HOH because why not just, I don't know. I just, I, I just felt like the easy thing was to pick four people and say, Hey, I'm picking you. So I really hope like I'm hoping for safety and then you easily play the next week rather than, Oh, I'm picking you and myself. Cause I also want to win. And just like, it doesn't really leave the other three people.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_08] They don't owe you.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_12] They don't owe you anything.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_03] It's just not going to work.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_12] Mm-hmm.

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_03] I don't think anybody's going to risk going after Rachel in the first week, especially with the BB blockbuster.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. That's also a good point, Taryn, as we talked through so much last season that it was something that is another competition in the big brother week. And now if you're going to put Rachel on the block, she has the chance to win the veto. She has the chance to win the BB blockbuster. And so it is going to be very hard to get Rachel out of the house.

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_03] Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, that is a question, right? It has been, uh, upwards of 15 years. Um, the competitions have changed since Rachel last played. Uh, will Rachel be as competitive in the competitions? I think is, is a fairly important question for her, uh, longevity in the game.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_12] So I think that she will be a strong challenge competitor. I think that there's, you know, not a lot of challenges that are, you know, a, you know, 100 meter dash or anything like that. A lot of the challenges are a little bit of like, okay, run back and forth. And Rachel is somebody who in her time between big brother and the amazing race and all traders and all these other shows, she has probably done. Well, over a hundred of these competitions.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_12] And now she's done it a hundred times and she, but not as many times as Adrian, not as many times, but he has wall comp Wednesday. But for everybody else, you know, this is like their first competition, their, their third competition. So I just think that knowledge of like, okay, I know how to do this. I know like, uh, what this is and I'm not feeling the pressure as much as some of these people. I think it's going to be a very big advantage for her.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. But to that point that got us there, I do think Jimmy is the person that would be like, okay, Vince, hear me out. I know I'm just dropping this. What if we try to go for Rachel? And I think that's going to be his downfall. Yeah.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_09] I think that it's like, I think what they're going to end up saying is like, Jimmy's playing too hard, too fast. He needs to go. He's, you know, strategizing, blah, blah, blah. Like I absolutely, if he starts to try and do the go, let's go after Rachel thing. I could see them turning it on him and just being like, he's playing too hard, too fast. If he waits a little bit and like builds bonds with people and whatever, and then tries to get out Rachel, I feel like that's a better strategy because, you know, you're connected with people at that point and people trust you.

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_09] Whereas in the beginning, it's like, hey, whoa, this is too much, especially because the first HOH is not going to want to make a big move. I mean, we really rarely see the first HOH make a really splashy move. Most of the time it's like, okay, who does everyone try and not like? And then they just like boot them out.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_03] We've talked about this before and very recently on Big Brother Canada, actually, when Anthony and Victoria came back in that, you know, when you have a returning player come into your cast, I think the strategy is buddy up to them as much as possible.

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_03] Not to be not to simp for them, as Zach might say, but to like just get through that initial burst of essentially what always happens, which is that the people who don't fall in line get targeted early on. And then use the fact that you're close to them to eventually target them and get them out of the game, because it's going to be a lot more effective coming from you, one of their closest allies, saying we need to get this person out later, later down the line.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_03] Then coming from you who has been ostracized because you were not part of the group because you have been beating on this drum since day one and nobody trusted you when you started to do it. Like you have to you have to just buddy up to them as much as possible at first. It's just the way that things go in these games.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah, really good point. Better to side up and work with Rachel and then go as far as you can. Now, ironically, Rachel did win her season as a returning player against a newbie. And maybe, though. We saw the next season that a newbie ended up beating a returning player in Big Brother 14. So we've seen it both ways. Maybe with all due respect to Portia, you know.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_12] That was not a newbie that they were ready to award the prize to.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_03] I think it's tougher. Obviously, like 14, you saw that like the vast majority of that jury was were all new players. And of course, there were other circumstances. 13, a good amount of vets made it into the jury house. And so you have a much better chance of winning a jury vote if you get other vets in the jury house with you. This is a cast with no other vets.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_03] I do think that will be tough for Rachel if she wants to win a jury vote. I think that that is potentially her one of her biggest hurdles. You know, a returning player in this spot will usually make it toward the end. But can you convert it into a win? That is the tricky bit. And if in a full cast of newbies, that's going to be a bit harder than otherwise.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_12] Returning player Paul also lost to a newbie in the final two as well. Yes.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_03] With a full cast of newbies. Exactly.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. OK, let's talk about some of these other players that we haven't talked about yet. The HOH. Vince was somebody who we I don't think he's a trust fund guy. I'll say it.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. Yeah. I don't think so.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_03] We were not destitute. I saw his parents house look pretty nice.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_12] They got a ping pong table. He has a perfect mustache. Perfect mustache. Yep. And he's our first HOH. And we'll see how he wants to play this.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_03] I mean, the way that they set it up. I will say like edit wise was that Jimmy thinks he's going to be able to have influence over Vince, but he won't because we got that dire. Like, you know, when I was watching live on Twitch, people in my chat were like, oh, it kind of feels like they're setting Vince up to be the HOH based just based on that interaction because he's the most interesting person to win at this point.

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_03] And then he goes on to win. And and that did feel like a little bit of a hint that like, you know, maybe things are not going to be super great for Jimmy this week.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah, it was definitely interesting how when Jimmy was like, OK, well, if it's if it comes down to you and me in the end and I give you a look like, will you will you drop or whatever and give it to me? And Vince like pause for a second. It's like, yeah, not believable.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_02] I did not read. I did not read as. Oh, no.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_09] And then then like Jimmy's HOH, Jimmy's DR. Like, I thought he was going to say like, yeah, I don't believe him. But he was like, yeah, I really believe Vince. He's very trustworthy. I think I can work with him. I was like, oh, he got him. Like, I did not for one second believe Vince. Right.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_03] He would have totally. I can totally see the world where the feeds come on Sunday night and it's, you know, it's Jimmy on the block because he tried to target Rachel. And and then the whole house turned on him. And then Vince starts talking and telling the story about how, yeah, Jimmy even tried to get me to throw HOH to him. Can you believe that? Like, you know, like I could see all of that happening for you.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_12] How about this, Taryn? OK, so Jimmy is not yet on the block on Sunday night when the feeds come on, but some they have the power of veto and the veto ceremony is happening in the morning. And Jimmy is going to be going on the veto on the block as a replacement nominee. And he's very sad about it. Very likely. Yeah. OK, we'll see what happens with Vince. How about Keanu, my guy? And Taryn, you and I talked the other day.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_12] I said, hey, Taryn, what do you think? You think that Keanu is named after Keanu Reeves? We looked up how old is he? He's like, what is he? Oh, he's like 34. Like, well, like, I don't know. Keanu Reeves maybe only did Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Bill and Ted.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_03] I was like, man, it's weird that I know. I know of exactly two people named Keanu and one of them is named after the other. Yeah.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_09] And he literally even quoted Bill and Ted like multiple times.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_12] So that seems like a diary room forced on him.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_09] Oh, I'm sure they're like, and then what do you say?

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_06] Excellent. Yeah.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_12] So do you think that maybe you found your your bill? I think Keanu is Ted. Ted.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_03] I will say people we talked about how Keanu, like maybe size wise could be a little bit of a like an Austin, right? A little bit of a Judas. And I will say that watching him bro down with Zay was giving me Shelltown vibes. It was giving me Jason Austin a little bit. I'm a little worried about that.

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. Okay. Zay, we haven't talked about. I will put this out there that if the accomplice is one of the guys, I think Zay might be my number one suspect. That Zay is somebody who in the preseason was like not there for the game, was just there for the good times, was just there to be fun. And if anybody was going to come into the season to just like for whatever reason, just be there

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_12] to do pranks on the house. I think it would be Zay.

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_09] But does he have it in him? Like, does he like, I don't know. I feel like I feel like he's not Mormon anymore. Melissa. That's so true. He's drinking coffee now. Yeah. Coffee. That's that's intense. Yeah. I don't know.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_12] I feel like the mastermind convinced him to leave the Mormon religion.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_09] Wow. It's been going for so long. I can't believe it. This mastermind is very powerful. You know, I don't know. I feel like he could. But I just feel like, well, I guess it depends. It depends if they are having the accomplice actually do things or if it's just really accomplice in name only. And you kind of are just like, look at me. I don't know if I see him being like that.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_09] I feel like they would want someone in the diary room to be like entertaining as the accomplice. Like, I feel like they'd want someone who could really sell it. Is that not Zay?

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_08] I don't know if he could sell it. I don't either. I think he just seems like a nice guy. Zay. Like, I don't know if I, I mean, because what did he say? Was he, is he a salesman? Is that what he was going? Yes. He saw them closing the door on him.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_12] Asia, do you know Sammy from Survivor 43? Have you met him? Yes, I've met him. Yeah, so he's, that Zay is very close friends with Sammy.

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah, they were cheerleaders together, right?

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_12] Yes, I think that Sammy, you could see him at Zay's house.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_08] Yes, at the very beginning. I was waiting for that lower third to say Sammy, Survivor 43. We didn't get it.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_12] No, they didn't give it to him. Yeah.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_08] Uh, but yeah, Zay just, he doesn't seem, I feel like it's easier to make a list of people that you think is not the accomplice because that will just like narrow it down. And Zay was just like not the accomplice.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_12] Who are the people that are not the accomplice? Let's go, let's go around until we've run out of people. Asia, you go first.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_08] I don't think it's Will. Oh, sorry. Yeah, not Will.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_12] Okay, not Will. Will, Will is not the accomplice. Yeah, I agree. Take him off the list.

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_09] Take him off. Remove him.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. All right, Melissa. Melissa.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_09] Hmm. I don't think it's Riley.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_12] Right. Riley is not. They can't trust him to be the accomplice. All right. Jimmy is not the accomplice.

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_03] Jimmy. No, no, no. Taryn. Taryn. Um, I don't think they'd make Zach the accomplice. Okay.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_08] I'm going to go our HOH Vince.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_12] Vince is not the accomplice. Okay. Yeah. Would the accomplice win HOH? What would they do if they removed the HOH?

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't make sense. I don't think it's Amy.

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_12] Amy, not the accomplice. Okay. I'm going to say Catherine is not the accomplice. Too quiet.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Way too quiet.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_12] Too quiet.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_03] Got anybody else, Taryn? I feel like we're starting to get to some, some good. I, I feel like it's not Adrian. I think that's too on the nose. Okay. Asia, how do you feel about that?

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. I still strongly feel it's Adrian, but it could not be, he could just be, that could just be him.

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_12] Okay.

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_08] I'm going to go Mickey.

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_12] Mickey. Yeah. I don't think it's Mickey.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah.

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_12] She did O'Reilly Brad Pitt, but that's true. I don't think they want to lose her. Like, I think that they feel like, yeah, she just seems like an important part of the cast. Okay. Right. I don't think Keanu is the accomplice.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_09] No, no, no, no. No. Yeah. I don't think so.

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_03] Okay. I could actually see it be Keanu.

[01:02:25] Hmm.

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_03] I think he, I think he would like, he'd have a whole separate voice for it. You're like, I have been the accomplice. Yeah.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_09] Well, okay. If we have to pick, if we each have to pick who we think it is, like, who do we think? I think it's Morgan.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_12] Let's lock it in. Lock it in. Yeah.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_08] And not Lauren.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. Can I pick Morgan also?

[01:02:49] Yeah.

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. Yeah. I too will say the accomplice is Morgan. I'll lock in Lauren.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_08] Okay. You lock in Lauren? Really? Well, someone we haven't mentioned or talked about it.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_03] I'm not going to say Morgan. I think that's boring at this point.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_08] Yes. But do you think it's Morgan? I'm going to say Adrian.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_09] I think Morgan is also up there.

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_03] He's saying it's Morgan.

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_09] No, because now he gets two choices. I just wanted to be entertaining.

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_03] I threw Lauren out there. That's my pick. Yeah. Okay.

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_08] My pick is Adrian.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_03] Okay.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_08] But if I have to pick a woman, I'm just going to pick potentially Kelly, but we didn't talk much about her.

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_12] Well, let's talk. This is an opportunity to talk about Kelly. Kelly, who was the first person? We didn't even think about it. The first person who we got to meet tonight was Kelly. Was one of the first four house guests. If we want to go back to that theory of did one of the first four house guests touch the timer?

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_09] You know, I think Kelly, like, okay, the fact that like I was scrolling through the list of like people and I did not even like think about Kelly. Like I didn't think to, to rule her out, but I also didn't think, yes, that's her. And so I, I mean, that to me could be a very good accomplice is that it's just someone we're not even thinking about. And then that's the shock, you know, it's like, you don't expect the small town girl or whatever, you know, that's probably what they're thinking.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_12] She does goat yoga.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_09] Exactly. And she, I mean, the one thing I would say is that like in her preseason interview, she was like, if I'm not seen as the hero, something has gone horribly wrong for me. And like, I don't know if she would agree to like, be like, oh, I'll be the accomplice here and like be, you know, manipulative or mastermind or the accomplice or whatever.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_12] Like, I, so would she go home? I mean, if the producers come to her like, Hey, so we got something for you. You know, Eric tells the story of like, he was at his hotel. They come in and they're like, Hey, you're going to be America's player. And it's like, well, what if I don't want to then goodbye?

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_09] I mean, yeah, that's, that like, that's, that's the question, I guess, is like, if they want to be the saboteur.

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_03] I feel like Annie did want to be the saboteur.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_09] I, yeah, it's tough because I just feel like she would not want to agree to that. I don't know.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_03] She seems like, I think she, I think you can get them to agree to whatever you want them to agree to. Um, but I, but I do still feel like they were, they're much more likely to pick someone familiar with the show and she's very not familiar with the show. I don't think they would want to risk giving it to somebody who doesn't know what they're doing. Um, and just, you know, trips all over themselves. Uh, which is why I feel like people like Lauren and even like people like Keanu, uh, people who are like, I really liked the show. I think they're much more likely to have this role.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_08] We did see, uh, she only got that one confessional where she was saying that, um, Amy was being really loud. And so I was like, she might have some trouble, uh, just socially. She thinks that in a house of four, one person is too loud.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_12] That was her big moment in the episode was complaining about how loud Amy is.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_08] It's not that loud in a small town of 50 people, I guess.

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_03] She's like traveling around in hostels, like, uh, hostels, very loud.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_09] I also, I feel like Amy was just kind of being like, Oh my God. And it's like a very exciting thing to like see the house, which by the way, the house is like my favorite one they've ever designed. It's like so awesome. It looks beautiful. Like it looks like a house you'd want to stay in. It's very nice.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_12] I want to invite the chat. Also, we're going to take some questions later on in this episode. So send your questions in, in the chat here on YouTube and we will take them in just a little bit. We had three competitions in this episode and I kind of was hoping that like when we moved from the live move in, which we put up with because then there were night one feeds, but there were so many comps.

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_12] They said, okay, well, we're going to go back to now a pre-taped premiere episode of big brother. And I was thinking like, okay, well maybe it's going to be a little bit more like the classic move in episode. We'll get to spend a little bit more time getting to know everybody, but still three competitions in 90 minutes.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_09] I mean, at least they were like a little bit like better edited than normal for these live move ins where it's like, you just watch them do the little like balancing thing, just like quietly for a while, like no real, like, and then the repeating music over and over again.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_12] Like at least we didn't have that, but it was more like akin to a normal big brother competition.

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. But obviously I missed the sitting around the couch and then they start doing the sitting around the couch and they said, uh, shut up, stop talking. We're moving on. I was so disappointed because that's like my favorite part is when they each go around and then somebody says like, that guy's really hot. And then somebody says like, Oh, that girl's annoying. Or like, I'm shocked. That girl's 40. Like I, I just love that sort of stuff. It's like, we didn't get any of it and that's classic big brother.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_12] Yes. Well, unfortunately, Melissa, all of the fun and merriment was interrupted when we got to meet this guy. It's the mastermind. Terrifying. What the hell is this? The mastermind? Like at least like Ainsley. Okay. It's AI. There's a hologram. Okay. We spent some money. Whoa. Did we just go to like spirit Halloween and say, okay, what's on sale?

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_09] What's the most? What is this?

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_03] I feel like they're really starting to pull from like other contemporary reality shows. I think that this is like squid game. What is this? It's, it's the devil's plan. Squid game ask, but yeah, a little bit of devil's plan in there as well.

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_12] Somebody on big brother production watched the devil's plan.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_03] I think that, uh, I think that somebody did research and, and I, and I think, I think they also, they put a little Mr. Beast in there with their little fake explosion on the survivor beach. And trap doors.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_08] I mean, I was so confused. I looked at that. I'm saying, is this Fiji? But I see the big brother logo on the bottom. Like I sat there just kind of stunned, unsure what just happened. Then I realized what they were trying to do, but that was Fiji, right? I don't know.

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_12] It certainly looked like it. So, okay. So the mastermind is like messing with, I just want to get the plot down. Okay. The mastermind is messing with the big brother house and kidnapping Julie Chen because why? It's Ainsley. Is it Ainsley? Is Ainsley the mastermind? She's getting her revenge.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_09] It does seem odd. I don't know.

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_12] There was an original sin, at least in the plot of big brother 26, that the house kids did not vote Ainsley into the game.

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_08] Oh yeah.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. What if, what is the mastermind's beef with the hotel mystere?

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_03] It's the same sin. It's Ainsley coming back. She's hiding her identity.

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_09] It's the same sin. Yeah.

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_08] Cause it's already, we, we know big brother likes to do this, like to set a theme, a strong theme at the start and then just kind of strays, but this is where like, okay, we're in a murder mystery. How did we get here to the man in the mask? Yeah.

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_09] I feel like that was just, I would say that was a little disappointing to me because when I heard it was going to be like a murder mystery, I was hoping for like more like clue and less like horror, like, like saw or something.

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_12] Shipsaw.

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_09] Literally. I was like, oh, okay. It's really not like, I was hoping for like fun mystery, like, Ooh, a whodunit. Not, uh, not this. And maybe they were trying to like stay away from traders because I feel like there are a lot of similarities here with like the, like, like the house design and like all this sort of Rachel and Rachel. And yeah, I just feel like it was, uh, it didn't quite vibe for me. Yeah.

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_12] There was a lot going on with the mastermind. And then there were these two competitions that we saw one involved the kidnapping of Julie Chen Moonves where only her glass slipper was left behind for the house guests to see. Now I will say that this was odd, but it was all worth it for the reveal of Julie Chen Moonves in the backyard rescued by Zach. What an iconic moment.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_03] I loved this. This freaked me out. This genuinely freaked me out. All of a sudden, Julie was in the house and it was like, it was, if you put Julie in my living room, that would have felt more normal to me. Yeah. And then when she goes beyond that and like breaks the fifth wall and starts hosting from the middle of the house. Yeah. I was like, what? No.

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_13] And then they came back from commercial and they had her on the screen behind her on the stage. Rob, it's too much.

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_12] It's good. So Taryn. And so was there precedent tonight set that had Julie ever been in the house in 27 seasons? Not during a season. I don't think. Like she had never been in the house with the contestants before, right?

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_03] It's always at the start of the season. She walks the house.

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah.

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_03] That's it. That's it. No other interactions. The two must not touch.

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_12] So this was incredible. And really, I was so impressed because she like, I don't know if there's a teleprompter in the backyard, but she went right to and did the whole thing. And but first, they didn't like, did it perfect. Like she's like with Asia, you know, like Jeff Probst that she's out there just like hosting the competition in the middle of the backyard. Westworld.

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_08] So good. I am. I am impressed by Julie Chen. And I literally audibly said when he opened the door, I said, oh, my God, she's there. Yeah.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_12] What a surprise. Cool. Yeah.

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_09] Also, I thought it was very funny that they had the whole first competition about like what she was wearing. Like it was like, oh, you should have been paying attention. You should have been paying attention.

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_12] And now the mastermind, so evil, cloned Julie Chen Moonves' voice and then made her say fake things in all the different rooms to give away the clues. I believe this actually was one of the real things, though, that Julie said.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_05] I don't wear all my bracelets on one wrist for just any old show.

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. I don't wear all of my bracelets on one wrist for just any old show.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_08] She was acting.

[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_12] I would only do that for the premiere.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Well, notably, when she's on the when she was on the talk, she would wear one bracelet on one wrist and one bracelet on the other.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. Is that something that you would do normally? This is a very special night. I'm going to put all of my bracelets onto one arm for this special night.

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_09] That's how you know it's a special night.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_12] That's how you know. If you see someone wearing all their bracelets on one wrist and then that's why you have to get your wrist strong.

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_09] Oh, no.

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_12] But it's a special night.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_09] Oh, boy. OK. Oh, God. Yeah.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_12] OK. But that was such a surprise. So wonderful.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_08] I mean, smart on Zach's part. For just noticing that that Adrian hadn't gotten it by checking all the doors on the bottom. I was like, OK, well, I don't have to check those because he already checked and he hadn't run over there. He only had to check two doors. Then he won.

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_03] He did it. OK. Yeah. I mean, that was that felt very lucky because I doubt that Adrian or Zach had any idea that she wore all of her bracelets on one arm. Like if Adrian had happened to pass by that one and not get it. And I doubt he would have. Yeah. Zach's strategy would not.

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_12] But was there any penalty for opening the wrong door?

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_03] I think if you locked it in and you were wrong that you only had one lock in.

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_12] OK. All right. Well, that was one of our competitions. By the way, Zach won $10,000 for that. What the hell?

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_03] OK. Yeah.

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_09] We have a lot of money.

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_03] Can we talk about the disparity in prizes? Because getting $10,000 and then basically getting to choose who wins the first HOH are not the same.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_12] $10,000 is like third place money in Big Brother.

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_03] I mean, true, but it's also a much bigger target and no game advantage whatsoever.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_12] Oh, so you would rather get the name, the four people for the first HOH than $10,000.

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah, we did. They are equal, apparently, because Taryn chooses that one and is like, yeah, they're not equal. And we're like, yeah, the $10,000.

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_03] If I were there to be an influencer, I'd take $10,000 every day. If that were there to win the game, I would say stay away from me, demon.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_12] Do you think it's an easy thing? Zach could be on the block, potentially. I don't think Vince would put him on the block.

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_03] I don't think it's awful, but it doesn't help you at all. All it does is now you've won a competition and money. And we've seen that that has caused people to be targeted, especially in the early game, plenty of times before.

[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_12] Well, OK, notably, was it Lori in Big Brother 5, Taryn? But I think that she took money. I didn't know I was going to get money. I just opened the door. I didn't take it from anybody. Who was it? Was it Kevin in Big Brother 19 that he took a bribe, and that's how Paul came into the game?

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_03] People didn't know it was him. It was an anonymous thing. Memphis also was targeted very early on in Season 10. Got very lucky that Brian overplayed his hand that week, because it would have been Memphis, because he won a car. Like, you know, it just. It's it's listen again, it's not necessarily a death sentence, but it does nothing to help you.

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_12] You don't want to do anything that really helps you stand out from the crowd. So the fact that Zach wins money in front of everybody, probably a net negative. But for Big Brother, this is like a lot of cash. This is not a show known for randomly giving away money left and right.

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_08] Right. Right. And maybe it did happen early enough to where people are going to forget about it. But yeah, but I could see weeks from now, people remember that $10,000?

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah, they'll just say, well, he doesn't need this. Like there are some people that.

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. That genuinely will be annoyed by this. The fact that he's already won some money. And it's a great way if you want to get people to target Zach. It's a great thing to just be like, man, and he already won that 10K too.

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_12] And you know what? Vince is like, hey, $10,000. That's like two years salary for me.

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_03] Ava's like, hey, you know, I'm broke as hell. Give me that 10K.

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_12] All right. We'll see for Zach. The second competition was kind of hard to follow along at home where you had to match up that there was a secret HOH box. It was the mastermind's lair. They did bring in the Mr. Beast trap doors, though.

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_03] Mm-hmm. They did look safer than the Mr. Beast trap doors, to be fair. It was much wider.

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_12] Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody seemed to be fine. They all were standing there when they actually, I don't know how Jimmy, I don't know how they did it because Jimmy won the HOH and they were all there. So I don't know how they got them out of the trap door.

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_08] Where did they come from? Yeah.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_12] Really weird. But Jimmy ends up being the person who wins that HOA or so he wins the second prize, which then ends up being picking people for the HOH competition. Now, do you think that, I mean, Zach won a thing that he doesn't automatically get to play in HOH? Right? That's what I'm saying. Like he should have got like the ability to be the HOH.

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_08] No, it wasn't the HOH relic. Yeah, it was the HOH relic.

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_12] And then they got to blow up the masterminds hideout. And I was bracing myself for like, all right, let me get ready for the most low budge explosion special effects that like my kids would do on CapCut and see what's going to happen here. I was not expecting the cut to B roll of an superimposed explosion in Fiji.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_08] I legitimately thought they were kicking off a new preview for Survivor 49. Yes. Like I.

[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_12] This season, get ready.

[01:19:50] [SPEAKER_13] Yeah. I trapped 16 people in a house in LA. Whoa, here we go.

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_12] Oh my God. Incredible. Okay. We, I got to pick the people for the HOH competition. Jimmy was talking to the house. A lot of people were like, I'm good, Jimmy. I'm good. I don't want HOH. I couldn't believe this.

[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_09] That's, that was shocking. Cause I feel like, okay. Like we used to say a lot, like, don't be the first HOH. You put your target on your back. It's a bad idea. But then like halfway, like halfway through the seasons or whatever, a while ago.

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_03] That was like more than 10 years ago. Yeah.

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_09] It was like, it was like people are 16 or something. Since then it's been like, no, it's actually a good thing to be the first HOH because you kind of dictate the season. And yes, there have been some crazy HOHs lately, but I do believe that like, it's still such a power position. Like people will, you can automatically be in the room. Like, and that's the exciting thing. And that's the thing that like helps your game. And I don't see why everybody's fighting that.

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_12] I feel like you did so much work to get the word out. Like you do want to be the first HOH. You get so much out of it. Did Frenchie ruin it?

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_03] I know. I think this just continues to, I think it's a, it's a natural conclusion that people make that's wrong. Uh, that like you watch the show and you just think like, oh, well, I don't want to stand out. I want to lie low. I don't want to make a target of myself. Um, and you think that the right way to do that is by not being HOH. Um, but we have seen that proven to just not be the case.

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_03] Uh, and so whether you know, whether you don't know the show at all, or whether you are a fan who just has like watched from home and you have like an idea of what you think you're going to do, you tend to just, I think naturally come to that conclusion. Um, and, uh, and, and there is some validity to it sometimes, but for the most part, you do want to be either in power or close to power in that first week. It's so important.

[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_03] Um, and, uh, and, and in either one of those objectives, being one of the four people to play is, is huge for you, whether you win or not.

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. So we got the, uh, group of, it ends up being that it's what Jimmy, Vince, Ashley, and, um, Adrian. Adrian. Yes. Okay. Uh, and we get the reindeer games, uh, balance the weights. Yeah. I like this. Mm hmm.

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. I mean, it's fine. I'm glad that it's something that everyone can do, like at least, but yeah, seemingly everyone. Well, I mean, you, you could do it. It's presumed that you could all compete.

[01:22:56] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. Okay. And those are our comps. Vince ends up being the HOH. And then ultimately we get all of our business with Rachel and learning about the accomplice and then the cliffhanger going into Sunday night. What a twist. What a twist.

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_12] We have your questions still to come here tonight, but let me just tell you about what's coming up here in these next couple of days here on Rob's podcast, because we're all getting back into the big brother schedule. I can tell you here's what's going to happen tomorrow. Uh, typically Taryn and I love the, uh, BB Q and a, and talk a lot about the new HOH and what's going to happen and all of that.

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_12] But we're going to actually wait a week to go full on big brother on the Q and a, I haven't done a Q and a since I have been back on the podcast. And so I'm going to be live tomorrow at 3 PM taking questions and answers or I'll take questions and I'll give you the answers. Uh, 3 PM. We can talk about big brother. We could talk about, uh, so much, uh, whatever you want to talk about.

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_12] Uh, I'll be limited about what I can say about things that I've been up to, but you can ask whatever you want and I'll tell you whatever I feel like telling you. Okay. Then Sunday night we'll have our recap podcast and then we'll be live after the episode on Sunday night. And then we will count down the hours till the live feeds when the first live feed update will happen Monday morning at 11 AM.

[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_12] Taryn will be with you to talk about everything that he's seen since the feeds came on some nine hours earlier. And so, uh, be there for that. And then a Monday night, the BB round table moves to Monday nights this season. And so join the round table to talk about everything, uh, that is going on in terms of the week that was.

[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_12] And then on Tuesday for the patrons, Chappelle and I will bring you the slop and that's going to be patrons only. We can't put it in the main feed. We get too many complaints. So that is going to be on Tuesday night. You can get that all on our Patreon, uh, the Q and a and the slop that is, and all the other fine patron shows we have for you at robswebsite.com slash patron. Okay. All right.

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_12] Do we got some questions from the audience and let's see, uh, um, who does Vince nominate? We haven't talked about that.

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_08] It feels like he just would go with the majority and we don't know what the majority is at this moment in time, but I think not Rachel.

[01:25:52] Mm-hmm.

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_03] I think any dynamics you saw pre Rachel are likely not going to matter because I think that Rachel shakes the whole structure up any, any structure that was even beginning to be built. So I think it's really going to depend on like who is siding with Rachel and who potentially is not to be honest.

[01:26:09] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. Yeah. Who in the cast do you think are Rachel's people? Amy.

[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_09] I was going to say maybe Amy because they're both moms. They can bond over that. They both seem kind of like, um, high energy and like they can be fun. Now at the same time, that could be a total clash. Like it could be one of those things where it's like, they just don't, they don't mix, but it did seem like they might, um, connect.

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_03] So Lauren seems super pumped. She's like so excited to see Rachel.

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I could see where she has Amy. And then I think also like the younger women, I think also could like gravitate towards her.

[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_09] I mean, Ashley. One wolf in the chat just said Rachel being added makes a woman's alliance more likely.

[01:26:56] [SPEAKER_12] Oh, that is possible.

[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_09] Amy is trying to do a girl's alliance and Rachel and her bond. And then the other people are interested. Like I could absolutely see it. This could be the year.

[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_12] This could be it. And Rachel would love that. If she could be the person to do it.

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_03] Rachel would actually have the pull to make it happen. Yeah.

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. Okay. So of the men in the house, are there any men in this house that you feel like that would be good potential allies for Rachel?

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_03] I think Keanu actually could work with, I mean, he, one of his favorite moments was a Rachel moment. Uh, he's a big fan. He's such a big nerd as well that like, and like such a goofball, it seems that I think he'd really potentially get along with Rachel pretty easily. Um, other than that.

[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah, I think. Yeah. It's hard to say. What about Adrian? Yeah.

[01:27:53] [SPEAKER_12] A big super fan. Definitely possible. Mm hmm. Yeah.

[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_09] It's so hard to tell. You just like don't even know these people at all. Like it'll be. I feel like it always. Yeah. And it always, it always is shocking. Like you see the people on the premiere night and you're just like, okay, I think I know who these people are. And then you see them on the live feeds and you're like, who are these people? Like, this is not at all like what they were like on premiere night. So it, you end up learning a lot more about them.

[01:28:22] [SPEAKER_03] Like if Adrian gives Rachel any whiff of like Matt Hoffman, like he's in trouble.

[01:28:29] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. How about I got this question. This is from Molly who says, uh, okay, here's my question. Has Rachel survived without any protection? Like Paul with the friendship bracelets, uh, uh, buddy, Dan, et cetera.

[01:28:46] [SPEAKER_09] Who's to say that she doesn't have protections. We don't know.

[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_12] We'll be able to be nominated in week one.

[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_09] No. They'll say, oh, she wasn't eligible for HOH. So.

[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_03] Hmm. I believe Sari was eligible to be nominated, right?

[01:29:03] [SPEAKER_09] I thought no, because. Oh no. You know what?

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_03] The noms were, she was eligible to be re-nominated. I think.

[01:29:09] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah.

[01:29:10] [SPEAKER_03] But the initial nominations were decided by the competition, uh, competitions. Um, so, uh, so she had like safety from initial noms, but not re-nom, I think. Uh, I mean, from my perspective, the first and maybe only thing that they did for Rachel here is this whole accomplice situation where I do think that Rachel is basically immune to suspicion.

[01:29:36] [SPEAKER_03] And the fact that there's like a witch hunt for somebody that is not Rachel, uh, I think is great for Rachel. Um, it gives her a little bit of extra space to not have the spotlight on her. Um, but apart from that, who knows? They didn't say anything, but they could absolutely say something when it comes time for nominations of like, she's immune from initial nomination.

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_12] We think that Rachel is immune to suspicion, but it doesn't mean that these people are logical and that they are going to say, but what if, what if she really is?

[01:30:07] [SPEAKER_03] The only way they actually are suspicious of Rachel is if they are already not getting along with Rachel and don't want her there, I think.

[01:30:14] [SPEAKER_12] Mm-hmm.

[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_08] Mm-hmm.

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_12] Okay.

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_08] Which is that possible? No.

[01:30:20] [SPEAKER_12] Certainly, you know, anything's possible. Expect the unexpected. True. Okay. All right. Um, this is from Oliver. If they don't ID the accomplice, do you think that they will reveal who it is to the house? Yeah. On the finale. Yeah.

[01:30:36] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. Yeah. That'll be the big reveal in the finale and Julie will reveal it like at every eviction.

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah.

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_08] Cause there's no reason not to nominate them.

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_12] At the finale, Julie will be all right. House guests, the accomplice is a cut. So accomplice, please stand up.

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_08] And everyone will be like, oh, and us watching at home, we're going to be like, oh yeah, they did do an accomplice. Yeah. Remember that?

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_12] Remember the accomplice?

[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_09] Oh yeah, that was a thing.

[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_12] Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Um, this is from Steffers. Uh, did they know that they were the accomplice before they did their interviews? I can't imagine Adrian saying that all that, if he thought there'd be a chance he'd be gone in three days. Oh, he would.

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_09] He would say it. He'd say it anyway.

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_12] He would still say it.

[01:31:28] [SPEAKER_03] I do think they are likely to have known by the time they did interviews. Yeah. It would seem more likely than not to.

[01:31:34] [SPEAKER_12] But do you think they would give it away, potentially?

[01:31:37] [SPEAKER_03] No, obviously they wouldn't. They would not be saying anything about it.

[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_12] Because they weren't cutting anything from these people's interviews.

[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_09] They left in everything.

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_03] They actually, they were sometimes cutting in the middle of sentences, so. Oh, maybe.

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_09] I think it was like to like fit into different answers, but it just like didn't make any sense. It was, yeah, bad.

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. Here's a tough question for the panel. Most likely showmance from Nicholas.

[01:32:06] [SPEAKER_08] Is Keanu single?

[01:32:09] [SPEAKER_03] He, I believe he is, but I think he was team no man's, he said.

[01:32:14] [SPEAKER_09] Whatever. Whatever. It'll be Mickey and Riley and it'll be Zach.

[01:32:18] [SPEAKER_12] Can you imagine, though?

[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_09] It'll be Zach and Lauren. Are we shipping Miley? Oh, that's a cute name. I'll ship it because of that.

[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_03] I mean, Zach is obviously interested in Lauren.

[01:32:30] [SPEAKER_08] I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ashley and Keanu. I think that's possible. Yeah, I think that's possible.

[01:32:39] [SPEAKER_12] Okay.

[01:32:41] [SPEAKER_09] I think there's a lot of showmances. Yeah.

[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_12] Taryn, when the feeds come on, what's your prediction? How many showmances are happening?

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_03] When the feeds come on, it'll be day like five, night five. I think we have like a hint of one showmance. Yeah.

[01:32:59] [SPEAKER_12] Well, it used to be back in the day, the house guests, like they would know nothing about the game, but they would be so smart about like, hey, live feeds aren't on. Let's do it. Like they would know. They would know literally nothing and not even how the game works, but they would know like, hey, we can hook up now.

[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_02] It's safe. Rachel herself is well known for her manipulation of the live feeds.

[01:33:26] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. So we'll see. We'll see. Maybe there'll be like showmance season. We'll find out about.

[01:33:33] [SPEAKER_10] Summer of love.

[01:33:35] [SPEAKER_12] Summer of love. That's right. Yeah.

[01:33:37] [SPEAKER_10] We love that.

[01:33:38] [SPEAKER_12] We love love. Okay. Josh asks, do you think that the bunk beds are going to affect the game side of things in any real way?

[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_09] Someone will be hidden back in a bunk bed and someone won't know they're in there and then they'll talk about them or reveal something. Boom. No, I was going to ask you guys like, what bed would you choose if you were, I remember like now that the layout's a little different, like it's, it's different, but I remember there were like certain ideas of like, oh, you should be in that middle room so that you can see who goes in each room. But I think I would like to be in the bunk bedroom.

[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_03] Yeah. Never be in the middle room. The middle room is a trap. Seeing people move around is worthless. Having a private space for you to bond with people.

[01:34:22] [SPEAKER_09] To hang and be like, oh, I'm just supposed to, I'm just in my room. I just want to be in my bed. Yeah. I would want to be in one of those bunk beds just right up there.

[01:34:30] [SPEAKER_12] Do you want to be top bunk or bottom bunk?

[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_09] Top bunk.

[01:34:33] [SPEAKER_12] You want to be top bunk?

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_08] You want to be top. I, I have to be bottom bunk because last thing I need to be doing is like jumping down in the middle of the night to go use the bathroom.

[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_09] Don't think about your comfort. This is a game.

[01:34:47] [SPEAKER_12] Oh, so you feel like you feel like if you're, if you're top bunk, you can hear more things.

[01:34:52] [SPEAKER_09] I think that people like you can be more hidden in the back of the bunk and like under a blanket and no one will know you're up there and they'll reveal stuff.

[01:35:02] [SPEAKER_03] If you're, but here's the thing. If you want to hang out in that room, if you're top bunk, that means that like somebody is going to have to be sitting on a bed that is not yours. You know what I mean? Like, uh, cause you can't be hanging out on the top of the bunk with somebody else sitting in a chair down below, which means that you might be sitting down at the lower bunk, but then that's somebody else's bed now.

[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_12] But I'll tell you, Felicia can't cut her toenails if you're on the top bunk. Sari would have killed for the top bunk. Okay.

[01:35:32] [SPEAKER_08] No, she, if Sari was on a top bunk, she would have gone up on the top bunk with Sari and then cut her nails.

[01:35:38] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. Um, do you think that Rachel will be anti-showmance? That's from Olive. I think that like when Boston Rob came back, he's like, Hey, I'm always looking for people to have a showmance.

[01:35:51] [SPEAKER_03] She knows how powerful it can be.

[01:35:54] [SPEAKER_08] It's that or.

[01:35:55] [SPEAKER_02] He's going to break up Matt and Andrea.

[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_08] She can use it to her advantage to be like, look at me and Brendan. Like, of course I love love. Like she could be the third or not just, you know, the immediate third, but she could use it to her benefit.

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_12] All right. There you go. All right. And one other question. Andy wants to know, will Janky be back at some point this season?

[01:36:28] [SPEAKER_09] No, Janky's dead.

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_12] Janky's dead. Ainsley killed him. Although he did. Did he get reborn in the finale? Did he have like a, did he come back to life? Oh yeah. They all say.

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_03] What color was he when he was reborn? I don't even remember. Was it red?

[01:36:43] [SPEAKER_12] Was he red? Is Janky actually the mastermind?

[01:36:49] [SPEAKER_08] Janky and Ainsley merged.

[01:36:52] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. Boy, we're really building a real like rogues gallery suicide squad between the Nethergore Morgan, Ainsley, Janky, the mastermind. It's horrible. What the hell? It's all the last like what? The three seasons. You know, back in Big Brother 24, all we had was Daniel Durston.

[01:37:16] [SPEAKER_08] They're really building this world.

[01:37:18] [SPEAKER_12] Building up this like BB comic books. Just in the season already.

[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_09] That was such an iconic ending to that episode.

[01:37:28] [SPEAKER_12] Like, come on. All right. Let me see. Sammy, anything else? Oh, we're having so much fun over on chat BCC. We got so many alumni over there talking about Big Brother. Go to Rappaswebs.com slash VIP chat. We were going to crash chat BCC earlier tonight. There was too much going on.

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah, I couldn't get on. I know. Wait, is Rachel in there?

[01:37:54] [SPEAKER_03] Rachel is in there. How is Rachel in the house and in chat BCC?

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_12] It doesn't make sense. I was asking Rachel, like, how are you? How are you in two places at once? I think it was Brendan. What? I think it was Brendan posting on chat BCC as Rachel. How is that even possible? I don't know if he will continue the charade or if he will claim that as Rachel posting on chat BCC from the diary room. Bizarre. Okay. All right.

[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_12] And of course, we'll talk about all of that and much more all week long here on RHAP. Taryn, what's coming up for you?

[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_03] Well, Rob, a small addition to the schedule this week, I have managed to convince slash blackmail Stephen Fishback into watching tonight's Big Brother premiere. Wow. Okay. How'd you do that? By saying that I would help market his book. Yes. Okay.

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_12] Well, you two, my friends have books out and I'm so glad that you are combining your forces.

[01:39:05] [SPEAKER_03] Yes. Uh, so Stephen Fishback, uh, not a Big Brother watcher.

[01:39:10] [SPEAKER_12] Has he ever seen an episode of Big Brother?

[01:39:12] [SPEAKER_03] I do not believe so. Unclear. Um, he has watched tonight's premiere and we will be talking about it, uh, hopefully tomorrow. Um, and, uh, I'll try to sell Stephen on, uh, Big Brother and see how that goes. I thought we had a lot of fun last season, uh, talking to the jet lag guys when they, when they checked Big Brother out. So, uh, I think Stephen will be, uh, will be very fun. Okay. That'll be great.

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_12] So, uh, check that out coming up. When is that? Tomorrow? Tomorrow is when we would like to record. Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh, be on the lookout for that and then, uh, we'll get back together Sunday night to talk about everything that's going on. Uh, Melissa, what's coming up for you?

[01:39:54] [SPEAKER_09] Just, uh, the round table. Very exciting. And you can find me on social media at it's Melissa with three A's.

[01:40:00] [SPEAKER_12] How do you feel about your draft team, Melissa?

[01:40:03] [SPEAKER_09] Good. Good.

[01:40:05] [SPEAKER_12] Yes. What would you have? Do you have, uh, who is it? Ava.

[01:40:10] [SPEAKER_09] Ava and Will and Zach. Okay. I feel fine.

[01:40:14] [SPEAKER_12] Yeah. Pretty good. Okay.

[01:40:16] [SPEAKER_09] So far. I mean, like there's not really much to know yet, but, uh, yeah. Okay. We'll see.

[01:40:20] [SPEAKER_03] And then your team is already 10 K ahead of anyone else.

[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_09] Yeah. I'm actually, yeah. My team's actually really rich, so it's fine. Yeah.

[01:40:26] [SPEAKER_12] We should draft like a, also like a total money one. So, uh, really think if you get the winner, I think it's still too, too. You can't catch them. Um, all right. Asia, what's coming up for you?

[01:40:38] [SPEAKER_08] Yeah. Y'all can follow me on all social media at Asia, like Asia. That's A Y S H A like A S I A. We just wrapped up our coverage of the ultimatum queer love, uh, Mary Kukowski and Evie. And we had a great time over there. So if you have caught up on the ultimatum queer love on Netflix, go listen to our podcast coverage. We had a great time talking about that and follow me and Jason, a perfect match podcast on Instagram, a perfect match podcast.

[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_12] Okay. This was so fun to be back for big brother Thursday. We got to wait a couple more days to see what happens on Sunday night, but we will be back with you. Then I'll be with the patrons on Friday afternoon, taking your questions at 3 PM. We've got the link going out on Patreon at robaswebsite.com slash patron. Thanks so much for joining us. Take care of a good one. Bye.