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[00:02:20] Hello everyone and welcome to our HAP. I'm your host, Turn Armstrong and we are here to
[00:02:28] flip and talk to you about our flip an executive episode of Flip and Big Brother Canada, Flip
[00:02:33] in 12. What an episode we got tonight and we'll be talking through it all with me to talk through
[00:02:42] it all here on a Wednesday night eviction is Sasha. I didn't Sasha listen so good but before we do
[00:02:50] that chat, you need to say happy birthday to Terran that you can't do anything else okay,
[00:02:57] it's a big day. We can have it's a late night birthday party. That's what we're actually doing.
[00:03:03] You guys wouldn't reject me in the chain right?
[00:03:08] Non-your birthday. Give me the executive video.
[00:03:18] Also with us here tonight is Shepal. How you doing Shepal?
[00:03:22] Hey, I'm good. I'm good. I'm excited to celebrate hashtag Terran's birthday. One of the biggest
[00:03:30] Big Brother events that will go down in history like all the other famous birthdays that we have.
[00:03:34] Terran, you should be very proud that you get such a great moment like this to solidify your status
[00:03:39] as a Big Brother legend. Yeah, they really were like all right, terrible episode after terrible
[00:03:45] episode. Let's just trash a whole week throw it in the garbage and give us just one good one just
[00:03:51] for Terran's birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday on my damn birthday on my Terran's birthday
[00:04:00] in front of my Terran. That's what happened today.
[00:04:06] They really were just like, all right, remember the 12 hours of drops that we gave you on Tuesday
[00:04:12] and the whole week of campaigning in the back and forth and the what the flip. None of that matters.
[00:04:17] Well this is what matters this episode. I personally am very happy that they did that because I was
[00:04:25] asked to come on this recap. I've been having a really hard time keeping up with what's going on
[00:04:30] because we don't get our daily morning Terran's updates. And so the one time I have to come,
[00:04:34] we just throw those out the window and say now let's just talk about this one episode because it's
[00:04:39] happening completely in a bubble thanks to a very weird, very weird challenge like leading to a weird
[00:04:48] video and I'm okay with it. I enjoy this entire episode. Very happy to be here.
[00:04:53] Yes, this really was like in my mind one of the most fortuitous like circumstances that could
[00:05:07] have happened for the show this like with everything that happened like with how Vivek betrayed
[00:05:14] Dennis last week coming into this week and the way that this week played out not only did we get
[00:05:20] like the executive stuff but we even got to start this episode with Goose's flippity flip flip flip
[00:05:29] talk outing spicy V and spicy V freaking out. And in all of the drama that that caused coming
[00:05:40] into the executive veto situation where of course spicy V ends up holding the executive veto
[00:05:48] completely ruined and Goose's HOH while at the same time sliding the knife right in the back
[00:05:56] of Vivek who she did help convince to betray his closest ally. In fact, using the fact that he did
[00:06:05] that for her ostensibly to help like solidify the killing. Not the killing.
[00:06:17] And then he's betrayed just like Dennis was with the emotion on his face and then every single one
[00:06:28] of them standing up and saying his name. He's literally in tears as Bailey goes, yeah you were
[00:06:36] always my true enemy Vivek like this is wild. It was so good. Listen, I'm sad. Representation is gone
[00:06:49] but it's no matter. It's fine. It's fine. He deserved it by horrible fool what are you doing? And
[00:06:59] y'all then he started crying. Somebody should have been like stand up. Stand up.
[00:07:07] Sasha, he hugged all those people on the way out. I would have I'd rather have dissolved into
[00:07:12] the high end man. I have been like I don't know what you I haven't really tapped in but I have
[00:07:25] been like just ferociously refreshing my Twitter timeline. I've been stalking Dennis's Twitter
[00:07:33] for the last hour and a half and the man has says nothing until now he just hosted a meme of
[00:07:40] himself sipping tea with the quote you are next. Dennis evil and I love it finally here. I've been waiting
[00:07:48] for it. It's for me is just the way Vivek's just looked at his eyes and I am not next. I am not next.
[00:07:57] I will not be going next is like what maybe you are like the I feel like the producer is a racist
[00:08:03] sitting at home like we get this to happen. You know those ways but why don't we really made him
[00:08:09] next. You know people are really loving not having the live feed. How it brings some excitement back
[00:08:15] at the big brother. Let's just give them a little pound of flesh. Let's give them some to chew off
[00:08:19] for a little bit and distract over from the fact that we have essentially changed the game
[00:08:24] and screwed over somebody in such a big way. I mean this is and it's a great television moment
[00:08:29] but this is an awful twist for Vivek. Like nothing like the man did not deserve this. I mean he did
[00:08:34] for what he did for Dennis. But in the game come on man if this was anybody else I'd be like what
[00:08:38] the hell just happened. Listen both things can be true okay and that is what happened. It's the
[00:08:44] way I was like oh shucks representation but no I didn't even care I said bye he got to go
[00:08:51] the bone headed move but y'all what will the chat look like. Can you imagine him walking into the
[00:08:59] going home. Yeah the preacher. Everyone just like celebrating the row you know all kinds of
[00:09:06] celebration happening and Vivek is just like shwugs I'm here. Well I mean this really did it came out
[00:09:14] a left field I think for Vivek for for us I mean it was really looking like you know the who's
[00:09:23] going to win the game curse was really just like coming in strong again.
[00:09:28] Janine said Donna Donna said Dennis Dennis said hola who was up on the block and there was talk of
[00:09:34] tying up the vote and goose would break the vote and take out hola and it was like okay but there
[00:09:40] was another curse and I even talked to Dennis about it in his exit interview as a Dennis there is
[00:09:47] another curse I'm just putting it out there that Puyah's draft curse.
[00:09:55] Oh no no no no no. I just explained the people that Puyah has on his draft team because
[00:10:01] we have. Yeah I'm going to get down. Puyah picked Janine. He picked Dennis.
[00:10:11] Promising. He picked Donna and there's one more person who was it again Puyah?
[00:10:21] Oh no it's Puyah's music. We go back out you have Taren please play the like flip
[00:10:28] and he has to come in. No. I'm sorry. Listen there's a first time for everything
[00:10:41] my god. What a time. This is a shambles let me tell you this maybe honest when I tune in
[00:10:46] because I was supposed to be on the pod tonight but I've been a short throat so I was like let me
[00:10:50] opt out when I tune in to watch the episode I was tuning in fully being like well at least I didn't
[00:10:55] like get wiped out in one go. Fast forward to mid episode when I realized that I would have
[00:11:00] to lose everybody so the sad state of affairs but like you said Sasha I'm very okay with it.
[00:11:06] You know what I mean? I went on Twitter was like is this worser as the double grenade worser?
[00:11:10] I was like at least with a double grenade is not a sour taste of I had the winner and couldn't win
[00:11:15] I can just be hopeless now and just room for a month's downfall like I do every season anyway.
[00:11:20] The biggest we are as an Asian man what did you expect besides going out first that's what I
[00:11:26] have every time we've got Asian representation on Shio Sasha and our texting about them
[00:11:30] and every time it's shambolic we're like art next time. That's exactly I almost actually do listen
[00:11:37] what did you expect? This really was like one of those like memes where just like
[00:11:45] it would seem like everything was actually going to be fine. It honestly genuinely seemed like
[00:11:50] this was going to be Todd like let's let's clear this up. This was going to be Todd both
[00:11:54] curses were gonna be broken and Todd was going to go and then the Puyah curse was just like wait
[00:12:01] hold on one more shot at me.
[00:12:07] I'm sorry I can't breathe this was this was all that I hate that it had to happen to you
[00:12:12] but honestly we needed that we really did meet that jolt of juz that that that's the thing I think
[00:12:19] that we used to love in old classic big brother it was of course like the strategy and stuff but
[00:12:24] the reason people like seasons like big brother six is because when one side wins the other side
[00:12:30] gets revenge and then it's like okay this person went from on the block to HOH you know give me that
[00:12:36] keep it you know that kind of stuff that is the stuff we really appreciate it's for a while throughout
[00:12:42] this episode it just felt like we weren't gonna get that anymore we don't get that enough on big
[00:12:46] brother Canada but this season you know people can say whatever they want this has been a wild
[00:12:51] and crazy season like no one can like could see this man turning on his number one ally leaving him
[00:12:58] for dad the house just like you basically just like throwing a guy to the walls and then in a world
[00:13:04] where he would have been normally safe production just stepped in and said keep the party going
[00:13:09] you know I really I can't be mad at what we got yeah I did I did have the thought
[00:13:16] that maybe we should implement like a shoot the moon rule we can call it the Pooja rule where
[00:13:23] you get your whole team wiped out you win automatically exactly oh I love that I love it listen
[00:13:30] let's be honest fear recent sea bias will forever take over no one's gonna want to be on my team
[00:13:35] people are gonna see who I draft and let me tell you this audience I'm picking all your favorites
[00:13:40] so you thank you for when you see the bios I'm picking them so you can be worried because again the
[00:13:47] the resume doesn't matter all the old wins no matter it's this season and this season was
[00:13:51] shambolic um we're here for Dougie and the NPCs so like you didn't have anyway it's all NPCs
[00:14:01] though it's just a cute little razzle dazzle until we know what the end is gonna be
[00:14:07] should we talk about the fact that this is the second time in anthony Douglas's big brother career
[00:14:12] that like somebody went home they didn't want to go home and it's the second twist that made it happen
[00:14:18] like both times a twist made it happen yeah Terran so I am not familiar with the pretty boys run
[00:14:25] during their first day anthony's first season could you break down exactly what was going on
[00:14:29] with the twist at time well similarly there was I believe it was like the assassination power
[00:14:35] or something along the lines that Adam found in one of those side rooms uh and he used it to take out
[00:14:41] anthony's like main minion gory uh and anthony was pissed uh and it similarly I think happened like
[00:14:48] at the last second like at a meeting or something uh and just like that yeah no more gory
[00:14:56] yeah but is anybody gonna be mad about this eviction like it's like is it's anthony gonna
[00:15:00] i'm sorry he just it's like he was ready for the head yeah the body is not even cold yet
[00:15:07] Sasha and I'm already tapped at so this man grave I don't have an issue with him as a big brother player
[00:15:12] but it's just something to be said when someone has to come to you say you know this is a big brother's
[00:15:16] next best friend man you can like you can't do what's right for big brother when you have to stand
[00:15:20] in front of everybody and say I threw my game away to save people boom there's your synops
[00:15:26] I threw my game away once you have to say that that is not a you can use you can't use that to
[00:15:33] plead to me to now save you you through your game away I enjoy mine I like my allies I don't want
[00:15:38] to vote them out sorry Vic you didn't you didn't well you didn't want this right i mean that's the
[00:15:44] thing with that argument is saying I did this for all of you all you've proven is that if you become
[00:15:50] my closest ally you are expendable to me if everyone else says to do it why would I do that I mean
[00:15:55] aside from the fact that the veto's not been used you've been put on the blocks of odds if you
[00:15:59] staying are very slim and then it's a public vote yeah goodbye do you should have just picked up
[00:16:03] your bag and gone to the front the minute you found that it was going to be public because no one's
[00:16:08] going to do this vote against the house to the face of the house that's never going to happen
[00:16:13] the public vote I'm sorry I'm getting my oh I'm aroused okay yeah and I'm well I'm well with
[00:16:22] my no I'm gonna leave I did want to just stop in here because I knew people wanted to get
[00:16:27] their licks in and also say happy birthday to Terran and also say hi to my friend Sasha and
[00:16:31] Chappelle I appreciate all of you listen to me listen Chappelle drink some water all right bye everybody
[00:16:39] I'm less aroused now that he's going Terran but I still want to get to my point
[00:16:44] this because what I just think it's poetic for Pooie to be here to talk about essentially what we
[00:16:48] got was the traders call back in this episode have we ever seen Big Brother do anything like this
[00:16:54] in any any iteration I wouldn't sense when are we just writing since what do you write names down
[00:16:58] and Big Brother that's that feels weird I think they did do something similar and like
[00:17:02] we became three or something but it's very uncommon in Big Brother to have a public vote like this
[00:17:11] but the perfect time Sasha the perfect time for some delight is yeah say it to his face oh embarrassing
[00:17:18] the thing is right stand up the back right first it started with him he's trying you know trying
[00:17:27] to sit there and be like you gotta vote you know you gotta want to keep me you gotta
[00:17:32] and then Todd comes in looks him in the eye and says at least I believe tola's word
[00:17:39] it's curt I would walk down what a god you know voting me the thing is you will not vote and
[00:17:47] embarrass me at this point I no one will embarrass me more than I have embarrassed myself you see
[00:17:53] what I'm saying and that's why he should have stood up it took his ass sorry and just left
[00:17:59] and don't vote for me I don't I quit yeah I quit I don't need money well how much is the money you two
[00:18:04] winners outfits instead of one be serious you get some of that skip is that what it's called you
[00:18:10] get some some my self out the game I let me skip out of here no the thing is don't don't let nobody
[00:18:20] put a clown nose on you and the fact thing but then you know he stayed right to Lulu I guy oh I
[00:18:27] work so hard to save me and PC stop and then he starts crying no what is this why I listen the
[00:18:37] guys been through a lot at this point he did it to him just cuz you know you're not going through it
[00:18:48] he's like am I the drum is it me if any of them are to himself makes it worse I think it's
[00:18:55] like harder to buy it you know yeah it's the best part I just I'm telling you my I would
[00:19:00] ripped my skin off and thrown it into a furnace before I let those people hug me are you kidding me
[00:19:05] hugging me as I'm begging for my life I think all double evictions should be like this I think you
[00:19:12] should have to say it to their face you should have to look them dead and I take me back to
[00:19:18] the brother when I think is it Jud who goes out in a double and everybody's like we don't really
[00:19:23] have a we can't really like we can't really just vocalize why you have to go out Jud but it's you
[00:19:28] it's just like wait but the fact that we're all crying about it is why you need to go right they're
[00:19:33] like we can't put in words while it's you but it has to be you and just like wait Andy Genevary
[00:19:40] is anybody and they're like I'm sorry mmm like I just wish they at that point Julie she
[00:19:48] incomes in it says okay I ready have a seat pull out your pin and paper
[00:19:55] everyone take out your Sharpie we're gonna write the votes in on the bear shirt
[00:20:01] ask it around oh do this more do this more arrest if you're listening to this keep this keep this
[00:20:08] yeah a lot of new stuff in this episode for me as far as this executive veto okay um and then
[00:20:14] you know this live vote yeah but like what was it the rejection chain that's new to you know I think
[00:20:23] yeah so I mean yeah before we get to that I do want to just also touch on uh Todd the cold
[00:20:31] blooded killer who stood up and just roasted Vivek before before signing his death warrant
[00:20:44] why would anybody trust this guy his word means nothing you betrayed is closed
[00:20:54] which by the way is is why like and here's the thing there's not many things I'll say this
[00:20:59] about with Big Brother Canada over BB us these days but like this is why this is a lot better than what
[00:21:04] BB us does nowadays which is like my first nominee is my second like this is better this is better
[00:21:18] no but can we talk about how Todd is getting the like lights are on no one's home at it
[00:21:24] and then all of a sudden this he needs to pay whatever winnings he gets to whoever came up with
[00:21:32] the executive veto twist because the way his stock did a 180 right you're just like dead in the water
[00:21:39] is just it's giving nothing like you know not the brightest crown whatever you want to say about Todd
[00:21:45] and then all of a sudden draw my he was so good no perfect I've been frustrated with Todd
[00:21:55] throughout this entire season because I'm like okay yes he is boring yes he's boring and yes he's
[00:22:01] also very like he moves very slowly when it comes to like these like hey Todd we need you to go talk
[00:22:06] to somebody he's like oh okay he's kind of moses you know like Todd you're on the black huh what
[00:22:12] you got to get up and get into the chair Todd what who me okay fine it's all like why don't we have
[00:22:18] a Todd here but then when you get moments like this like you were saying Sasha he took the chance
[00:22:23] to just be like you know I really got to give that shout out to Dennis and here I am like how do I
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[00:25:34] so uh let's let's let's talk about this so so I open the podcast I said this is like the like a great
[00:25:41] confluence of events that led to this I think the storyline fits very well and things played out
[00:25:48] in a way that really made it pop uh that said um I do think that this twist it's it's one of those
[00:25:57] things right we talk about twists a lot on the on the podcast um there's always a chance that they
[00:26:04] do something exciting and I think that when they come up with the idea for twists they have something
[00:26:09] like this in mind um but you put this on you know 10 seasons nine of the seasons this is going to be
[00:26:16] a total plot uh like this was guaranteed to fall into the hands of the majority uh who then basically
[00:26:24] get a coup d'état like I won't I will only use this on you if you choose to do it I want but
[00:26:29] like let's say there's a majority alliance the minority somehow won this hoh has two people from
[00:26:34] the majority on the block this twist guarantees somebody from the majority gets that veto they then
[00:26:39] get to use it on one of their allies they then get to replace that person with somebody from the minority
[00:26:43] probably at the hoh zone ally and then send that person home and we'll look at that we all and now
[00:26:48] that person probably can't even compete in the next hoh um not to mention the fact there's a lot
[00:26:54] of scenarios where this doesn't even get used at all uh if things are just already going the way
[00:26:58] that they really want it to um so I I don't know that it was the like most well thought out thing but
[00:27:07] I think given the circumstances and how they did allow for something interesting to happen
[00:27:12] I like the concepts of limited time do the campaigns everything in front of everyone I think
[00:27:18] that all worked uh really well mm-hmm you know there was a moment where I was watching the episode
[00:27:26] thinking you know when the majority or when spicy v or duggy ultimately get the chance to control
[00:27:33] this thing is there a world where they don't use it and I started thinking you know it's probably
[00:27:38] a lot cleaner to just be like no it's fine one of these people is going it's okay you know of course
[00:27:44] obviously the the poetry of going after uh vvick is like right there and I'm like okay kind
[00:27:50] of want that but if we had sat through this whole thing and Victoria had just said no good I would
[00:27:57] have writing out of walk that I'm like uh you know what my I have a sore throat too but yeah I'm
[00:28:02] sorry I'm not gonna be able to make it because there would have been so boring I think I kind of hope
[00:28:07] maybe next time I think it should be mandatory that they have to use it you know if everybody
[00:28:12] refuses to reject you cool now show us what you're going to do with that ability you know I'm saying
[00:28:17] you're just sitting by and being like I didn't want to play the middle it would've been boring and also
[00:28:21] a waste of an episode so I'm glad she used it I just want them to make sure that she uses it or
[00:28:26] that whoever gets it in the future has to use it next time yeah and and I think that like like many
[00:28:32] twists I think the concept and what they're going for what we got was fun and I think that especially
[00:28:39] a season like this this is what we are looking for I think there are probably better ways of achieving
[00:28:45] a more consistent result that's like this than what we probably could have gotten but hey I'm glad
[00:28:50] that we got what we did we got lucky so I don't think we need to like dwell on the bag that we
[00:28:55] could have gotten very unlucky just worth pointing out but man this I mean again it was just like
[00:29:04] like again we haven't we've barely even touched on all of the goose stuff and how like
[00:29:09] I mean this I can only imagine the amount of F bombs being dropped flip bombs by poor goose after
[00:29:19] this whole executive media yeah it's crazy because we got the whole like oh he's still
[00:29:29] angry you know he's throwing people under the bus blah blah blah blah but I feel like he's
[00:29:34] gonna just get back in line and he's not gonna he's gonna give us like a good little diary session
[00:29:40] or a good one to one but outside of that I think the directors are just like okay we're all
[00:29:49] gonna stand in like because it still worked out for us aw shucks that's what I get from goose
[00:29:55] and that's why he pisses me off let me do yeah he's trying to get your rear end out of the game
[00:30:03] and this is what y'all do to him you know I think I agree with Sasha it feels like a lot like in most
[00:30:09] games where they have all stars or returning players people always just seemingly like okay let
[00:30:13] me just get back in line and you know whether that's a good strategy and I who knows all the time
[00:30:18] because I mean you're going against them vocally we'll get you put out very quickly so you gotta
[00:30:23] covert about that but I mean it's really hard to be covert if you have to be an HOH nominate two
[00:30:27] people essentially get backstabbed and not be able to get your target out anyway and then go on a
[00:30:32] whole rant about how the whole like how the whole house is betraying you and how you couldn't
[00:30:37] you couldn't deal with all these flipping people and all this other stuff only for the producers to say
[00:30:41] now let's take all that away from you that was all for not all you got this week with safety
[00:30:45] and you have shown your hand to everyone so I'm gonna be concerned about goose now because
[00:30:50] people should be I mean rightfully you know concerned about them too look at him he just he just
[00:30:56] showed his whole hand for no reason you want to know who threw their game away goose did the moment
[00:31:00] he was also can we talk about unless I missed it or they didn't put it in the edit but goose
[00:31:08] should be the first person going up to V and being like hey what are we gonna do let's work
[00:31:15] together we're in an alliance la la la no he's just like pacing around oh no the world's gonna
[00:31:22] happen to me what shall I do what can poor old me do it's like use the leverage that you have as
[00:31:29] HOH at least talk to these people but the fact that a lot of these players are just kind of like
[00:31:37] letting the game happen to them instead of playing the game bothers me so much like how are you the
[00:31:44] HOH and not going to talk to the veto holder it just doesn't it's not computing yeah it's a speaking
[00:31:53] of I think the the the star player here was was Bailey who I think we out we talk about this all
[00:32:01] the time in like double eviction scenarios and these kinds of situations where things are moving
[00:32:06] quickly and discussions are being had and decisions are being made get in there stay on top of
[00:32:14] people don't just let things happen to you and if Bailey had had sat back I think this very easily
[00:32:22] would have been Tola off the block and potentially her on the block and gone like this was almost
[00:32:29] Bailey's episode uh to go and I think her she's directly responsible for making sure that didn't
[00:32:37] happen now I don't think that's what spicy ever would have wanted but I do think that if she had
[00:32:42] taken Tola off the block I think Tola would have named Bailey and I think they would have sent her
[00:32:46] home they wouldn't have had the votes to save her yeah I I agree I thought that's what we were getting
[00:32:52] the like really exciting setup for that oh no someone is finally gonna lie in this house and
[00:32:59] and you know stand up and do something that isn't with what everyone else it like we'll be the
[00:33:05] salmon swimming upstream but Bailey shot out to you she saved and the thing is she wasn't even
[00:33:12] just like begging right she was coming with receipts screenshot she said he just took me out of
[00:33:21] the game you cannot take him down and believe it it's just it that's the hard and cold facts because
[00:33:29] this is the first time I feel like Anthony did wanted something and it didn't happen right because
[00:33:37] and I feel like that was Bailey Bailey saying no it doesn't matter this is what's going to happen he
[00:33:43] already showed his cards and that's why I personally wasn't the fan of the chain of rejection chain
[00:33:48] of safety because the people at the bottom don't really have a choice like they're out they're losing
[00:33:54] but the fact that Bailey just got to go up and really fight I I love that
[00:34:01] and it was needed yeah she made a fan out of me on this episode for sure
[00:34:06] especially when you contrast that with Tola being awful at what he was trying to do because he
[00:34:12] comes to Victoria he's like all right Bailey right and she's like nope and he's like Bailey she's
[00:34:17] like oh I could do Bailey but she she'll never forgive me she'll kill me like so not Bailey she's
[00:34:23] no like if you if you're gonna take out Bailey like no we can't it can't be you and he's like oh well
[00:34:28] I won't I won't take out Bailey yeah really Tola is like oh yeah I got you not Bailey not but she's
[00:34:35] like no no really not Bailey he's like shoooo I will say that you told me not Bailey
[00:34:44] say I lied to you yeah he was like don't actually want that yeah and he was very much like oh
[00:34:54] oh like you really don't you really don't oh oh so you so so if you pick me and I didn't
[00:35:03] to like if I did pick Bailey that would be like I'm a trail right like no one would suspect that
[00:35:08] right like no yeah pick me pick me I got it I got it and then later she's like sorry I got to do Todd
[00:35:14] I gotta do Todd because it's gotta be be picked and he's like let me thank for shot she's like
[00:35:20] this is why I need to do Todd and she's like who shot who what do you mean yeah because I put
[00:35:27] me in the game she's like why it needs to be me why because I want to take out stop she's like are
[00:35:35] you sure he's like I really want to take out Bailey she said this is why I can't do it but I was
[00:35:40] like told a co-oh man uh Taryn he was a wall faceer who didn't want to be one he was like no I'm
[00:35:45] completely I'm completely out all right go wait I'm not doing this it's not me they're like sure
[00:35:50] surgeon okay yeah okay oh boy um so uh there was another move that was made tonight that I
[00:36:02] actually I really liked which was during the uh the rejection ceremony chain whatever um really
[00:36:11] if you think about this the decision was made as soon as goose picked tola instead of Todd because
[00:36:20] with tola being eliminated first with a basically even split house uh it meant that it was it was going
[00:36:26] to go back and forth ping pong back and forth and it would have landed on spicy regardless uh however
[00:36:32] there was a decision made and I don't know if this decision was made because she already knew the
[00:36:38] final outcome and that it wouldn't matter in the first place or if she just didn't care about
[00:36:41] the final outcome and decided a symbolic bestner would be worth it anyway but Lexus chooses to reject
[00:36:49] Matt instead of rejecting uh spicy v uh Kayla or Avery which is I think just a great call especially
[00:37:00] when you consider the fact that it wouldn't have made a difference if she chooses say Kayla
[00:37:05] Kayla chooses Matt Matt chooses Avery Avery then chooses between Anthony and spicy and it still goes
[00:37:12] to spicy so what she did was basically there's been so much like speculation and tension between
[00:37:20] Lexus and the other women that she's not with them that she's choosing Matt over them and so for her
[00:37:25] to like literally reject Matt in favor of them I think was a great symbolic gesture who knows if it'll
[00:37:32] stick I think that we saw in the episode that they were like oh thank you for doing that you know
[00:37:38] I'm sure it won't take Mary very much math to realize that it didn't really matter and that she might
[00:37:43] have known that but still I think just an easy call to make in that moment and she made it
[00:37:52] yeah uh let their showman's is would not have made that decision I think that's the that's the
[00:37:57] cool thing about it is that we've seen people who are very obviously like I don't pick my favor like
[00:38:02] we know we know and then they're shocked when people target them but we've also seen showman's
[00:38:06] make it really far because they're able to against all odds convince people that they're not
[00:38:10] working together like yeah we're dating but I'll actually want to go to the end with that person
[00:38:16] are you crazy yeah I'll say never Jay right so good yeah it almost never happens it's so you know
[00:38:24] this time her at least trying that is a positive because who knows somebody might be dumb enough
[00:38:30] to believe that that is not the case you know we hear someone say that right or maybe they were
[00:38:35] saying it's a her face yeah they said it to her in the episode it's in the moment it's it's one of
[00:38:39] those things and like they've had this this happened before like when we talked Alexis and it's
[00:38:44] actually fine and then like a few days later they're like actually no we still later um so oh girls
[00:38:51] I can't the girls girls whoa they don't know the game Sasha don't don't start to move we move
[00:39:01] so this really was a pretty big win for the women who were about to lose Todd um and it's primarily
[00:39:12] a win because like I think the way that spicy will play this is like I just got swept up in the
[00:39:21] moment I don't even know I thought I had to use it for a long time and then I didn't realize
[00:39:25] until too late that what that I shouldn't and then I by that point I already said Vivek's name so
[00:39:30] much that I thought I had to follow through with it and I don't it was just a big mass and oh whoopsie
[00:39:35] I accidentally get to keep Todd and took out Vivek oh well no one's sad about Vivek going home
[00:39:43] that's the thing no one is sad about it so they're kind of like well I mean it's fine it's fine
[00:39:46] we were gonna get him in bitch it's cool girl like Victoria gets away with this like I don't know
[00:39:51] what I'm doing I was so overwhelmed I was so swept up she is just I mean like there's a lot to
[00:39:57] probably be desired about some of her strategic moves like a lot of times she gets put in positions
[00:40:01] she's like oh my god how did why did I let that happen to me it's like yeah why did you let that
[00:40:05] happen to you why did you with that competition are you okay like but when she's able to play it
[00:40:10] off it's like she locks that card or like and then does everybody forgets what's happening she's
[00:40:15] like yeah I don't know it was just it was crazy I don't know what's going on tell me about your
[00:40:19] alliances and they're like what tell you about my lines this is like yeah tell me and they just
[00:40:23] start telling her she's like all right can't believe you did that next thing you know she's in
[00:40:27] there writing you out and then they never get mad at her they're always like I'm standing in
[00:40:32] Victoria yeah it's over goose goose who probably should not have publicly gotten anyway whatever he
[00:40:38] was been fine had an opportunity to twist I just love that Victoria's getting away with that it's
[00:40:42] very good like I don't like for me it doesn't even come off as like good acting but I think that
[00:40:47] it's her persona so far in the house and so they're just going with it yeah I mean I think
[00:40:52] um I think a big part of like how she's played is the perception that she's not a strategic player
[00:41:00] and so it's easy for people to underestimate her I think and I think that another part of it is like
[00:41:09] so her gameplay we've talked about it's very erratic it's very all over the place like she'll
[00:41:16] pull in this direction and then be like I can't believe they're pulling in that direction and
[00:41:21] then pulling the opposite direction um and it's almost so illogical that it's impossible to see
[00:41:29] through because why would anybody be doing uh and so she's this is how I feel like I would play
[00:41:38] the game or I would hope I play the game where people just are like oh chaotic messy
[00:41:45] mean wrong just like yeah correct keep thinking that so you keep me around who cares how
[00:41:51] you end up staying as long as you end up staying so I don't I don't care because everyone is calling
[00:41:57] her out to her face and Matt is like yeah um actually goose tomi you you you just you put my name down
[00:42:06] but I don't care I know you wouldn't do that that was a wild call by Matt to to relay second-hand
[00:42:13] information to to spicy before even going and talking to goose first wild wild it's like how do
[00:42:21] these people keep getting away with this this why this is why we root against people like Vivek
[00:42:26] you know like we we see them in those moments and they do something so bonehead it where you're like
[00:42:31] yeah I want you to do well in the game because you seem likeable enough you know
[00:42:34] but the same time I kind of need you to be punished for this thing that you just did and so when
[00:42:39] people like Matt do these things as well I'm kind of like I need to come back to bite you
[00:42:43] you know as much as I would love for the the newbies to get the one-up on these uh these all stars
[00:42:48] because it's just so tired seeing all stars do this time and time again I'm also like but play
[00:42:53] better play better play better or yeah please stand up god for love god yeah and there's a reason they
[00:43:01] didn't show the full conversation between goose and Matt in the episode it's because it was the
[00:43:06] exact same conversation goose had with Lexus in that they had no input and they barely listened to
[00:43:14] what goose was actually saying they goose had a on of actually useful information for them
[00:43:20] and was providing them an opportunity for him to be picked up as a number and they literally were
[00:43:26] just like yeah okay and there's such a stark contrast between that and when Anthony goes in and
[00:43:37] Anthony's like oh let's sit down okay let's let me hear you out you're right they are doing that
[00:43:44] tell me more uh what else did they say okay this is what we do we're gonna file that away
[00:43:49] you're gonna be my minion now and uh it's true again for us right we get to see the whole chess
[00:44:02] board so I understand but it's so funny to watch this because for us it feels so obvious what he's
[00:44:11] doing and it's like he's playing you so many ways and they're just like okay I'll just get caught
[00:44:19] in the you know they're almost like jumping into his net right to just get caught be like
[00:44:23] oh this life it's been a good life but I'm ready to get caught it just be eaten
[00:44:29] the trap is that that goose was caught in spicy's net right like he was caught in there he was being
[00:44:37] set up he was being lied to he was being used and he figured it out he was like oh my god I need to
[00:44:45] get out of this net and so he leaps out of spicy's net yeah and all that's left is Anthony's net
[00:44:52] there's no no there's no space with a without a net yeah this is good I guess where's the space
[00:45:00] without a net uh Dennis left with it yeah he left you gotta that's why that's what say we have to
[00:45:07] we have to give them some type of credit for you know at least having the sense to fall back in line
[00:45:12] because you know the one that stands out the most is the one that's gonna get dealt with but I mean
[00:45:17] when you put yourself in a situation like this and you're going bouncing from this person's ally
[00:45:22] to their number one allies like yeah don't do that you know like you know maybe try something else
[00:45:29] and it still baffles me that every time this happens people don't just assume that the vets are
[00:45:34] working just hand in hand these people who know each other in real life outside the game it'd be
[00:45:38] different if they got off the show and he immediately came back in the house and they never met
[00:45:42] they have Instagram pictures together they've been to parties they didn't been on trips they've
[00:45:46] you know these people know they know each other you know it's a assume that they will work together
[00:45:52] you you might you might say like all right well let's give them the benefit of that maybe they're
[00:45:56] not super fans maybe they're not easy level they haven't seen the Instagrams right um
[00:46:02] however on the most recent drop there was a conversation between spicy and Anthony where they
[00:46:08] were like damn we really shouldn't have let it slip that we were like at each other's birthday parties
[00:46:16] they're gonna know now and then spicy was like I don't think they're gonna know she's
[00:46:21] looking her she's so funny because she tell me she's wrong that's the thing she ain't she's like
[00:46:27] Anthony I've been saying so much about you I don't think they're gonna
[00:46:36] it's so this is what you know I beg right like if you're on the show you just beg that your
[00:46:41] faith hasn't this easy because what do you mean you're telling them all this stuff and you're
[00:46:47] just like yeah and we they could be like we're married um and you know we're actually sibling you
[00:46:53] aren't you it don't matter you could literally say we had the same parents it does not matter
[00:47:00] they're just gonna be like they must not work together why would they the girls girls and he's
[00:47:06] with the boys and that's it that's it there's no way they can double dip how dare how dare
[00:47:14] it should just be a rule of thumb at this point that if you know someone in the house know has even
[00:47:20] met someone else in the house before the game start just assume just go for it just assume look
[00:47:25] y'all seen each other on the street y'all met one time at winners you know in the in the line
[00:47:29] at winners or something like that boom we're gonna put you up just in case y'all have something
[00:47:33] bad we don't have you know um we've seen people work together because they they were dating their
[00:47:38] moms aunt or something like that you know and they met one time what was it Tommy and Christy was
[00:47:42] dating yes or whatever it's like they barely know each other and they were just running the house
[00:47:48] because it was like okay at least we can go back with that bond that hey we could take this back
[00:47:53] home for the people that we know the the experience that we are having but they just they give
[00:47:59] me a duggie the benefit of that doubt it's just like well why what does that do for you exactly
[00:48:04] Chappelle let's not slander the connection that Tommy and Christy when they looked at each other
[00:48:10] they saw home I'm sorry what when they looked at each other they saw home I can't hear you what happened
[00:48:19] with they look at each other they saw home Chappelle oh oh home right wow okay got it got it yes
[00:48:30] they told me out he looked me look me too six believable what did they call themselves
[00:48:36] undenined of right yeah yeah grateful eight I don't even know just grateful with an eight
[00:48:44] oh whatever like they were more the hateful eight yeah at that point I think
[00:48:54] they were just whittling it down to more more ridiculous name every now like
[00:48:57] undeniable hateful eight um I don't know never making it to have in seven you know
[00:49:02] it was just it was getting bad would that's a reality all right well here let's um I'll give
[00:49:12] a brief overview of what would have happened without the executive veto because there was a bit
[00:49:18] of drama there um the vote was uh there were there's 11 people so there's eight votes uh goose breaks
[00:49:26] a tie and the women had four votes to keep taught spicy Kayla Avery and Bailey and so if they wanted
[00:49:35] to they could force a tie and for whatever reason despite awakening to uh to spicy's manipulation
[00:49:42] goose was still promising Todd to keep him around over tola he has a better relationship with Todd
[00:49:48] I think maybe that's why but uh it doesn't make a lot of sense given his current position but it
[00:49:52] doesn't really matter at this point but he was saying promising that he was going to be keeping Todd
[00:49:57] over tola if it came down to a tie however the problem still remain if they do force a tie
[00:50:04] to keep Todd against the wishes of Anthony uh what does that do to the directors because or and
[00:50:11] in quite frankly what does it do to hot chocolate because Todd is somebody who has somewhat openly
[00:50:18] talked about targeting and um and so to keep somebody that's actively targeting Anthony is
[00:50:23] basically an act of war uh saying we are prioritizing our like advantage over your safety in the game
[00:50:30] and so if they do this the whole game potentially splits and is that worth it just for Todd uh
[00:50:37] that was the decision they were having to make and the way to resolve that is can we convince
[00:50:42] the okay with it so Kayla tried to talk to Anthony got into a little bit of a heated discussion where
[00:50:48] Anthony was like no that doesn't make sense she basically lets it slip that they're thinking about
[00:50:53] forcing the tie Anthony goes back to spicy then they have that conversation birthday thing
[00:50:58] as well as yeah as well as talking about uh this situation she's like Kayla saying all this
[00:51:07] often she's and spicy of course it was like Kayla's the one that wants it in the first place I
[00:51:13] don't even want this to happen I can't believe she's doing all of this um and then went back to Bailey
[00:51:20] and Avery and said Kayla ratted us out and now we have to vote to keep hold um so basically just kind
[00:51:28] of calling it off I think quite frankly that uh she's she's kind of just using the situation as an
[00:51:34] opportunity to shut it down I think spicy genuinely wanted to keep pod but she also didn't want to break up
[00:51:40] the the structure that they had um and used used like didn't also didn't want to have to be the person
[00:51:46] to make the call to shut it down so she was able to blame Kayla for it that's Kayla's fault now we
[00:51:52] don't get to do this even though we could still absolutely do this uh and he doesn't actually change
[00:51:56] anything so that was the the current state of things heading into this vote according to the drops
[00:52:03] where it was basically just gonna be uh either unanimous or close to it uh Bailey probably giving
[00:52:08] Todd her vote um and Todd was looking like he was gonna be heading out door um but then then the
[00:52:16] executive veto came into play and now we are here mm-hmm just in time for the executive directors
[00:52:23] you know I just I just feel like my tinful hat is on sorry yeah oh but you know I just I just have
[00:52:30] like some conspiracy that you know this just like I said it did feel like they were just giving us
[00:52:35] a little sum like the producer just stepped in because like you said you could you this was going to
[00:52:40] happen like this if you if you add this specific twist it it was always going to land on somebody
[00:52:44] like Victoria being able to control what happens here now conventional Victoria to actually do this
[00:52:49] and it doesn't even sound like it would be that hard because she just loves chaos so much because
[00:52:52] I mean there is a world where she just didn't use the power in the first place but yeah I'm
[00:52:57] I don't I don't know like I said when it works out for what I want to see on television
[00:53:02] let the producers do what they got to do you know executive direct executive veto all that kind
[00:53:06] of stuff make it happen as long as it saves you know the people I want to be saved or keeps the
[00:53:11] drama going a little bit longer I'm okay can we also laugh about why you said the executive
[00:53:18] veto because erissa explains it right she says okay the executive veto because you use it and
[00:53:26] other people do your dirty work for you I mean she's not like if she the executive is the executive
[00:53:36] in the room with the executive doing it and erissa has to do and explain to us what's going on the
[00:53:45] people have top made the call she's like yeah if they veto y'all what am I supposed to do who
[00:53:50] knows she's allegedly allegedly allegedly I want life beats too that's all I think the executive's
[00:53:59] vetoed it Sasha that's what she's telling us like erissa is talking directly to us do the camera now
[00:54:05] she's like listen to me listen to the words are coming out of it yeah the chat's calling it the
[00:54:10] corporate veto I appreciate that let's just call it what it is yeah or the video max veto where
[00:54:16] they just take out everything you love like Vivic we know you filmed an entire movie but
[00:54:27] you're not gonna get to release me not airing that sorry you got a road to run out of you
[00:54:32] okay
[00:54:36] all right so where does this leave us right coming into this next hoh the targets in my mind
[00:54:46] and this is where things should stand but you can never really take anything for granted
[00:54:51] in a house with spicy v in it where things should stand is that like Anthony Matt probably Lexus
[00:54:59] Tola if any of them win it seems like a pretty obvious target Todd again target Bailey again
[00:55:08] with maybe a side of goose if like Tola wins because he's not happy with right
[00:55:13] uh and then on the flip side if spicy avry or Kayla win it's a pretty obvious target Tola and
[00:55:22] goose um because they they want goose gone after the the flip and flip out uh so uh they are they're
[00:55:30] looking in that direction and then of course pod and Bailey themselves I think they would maybe
[00:55:37] want to take a big shot um but it wouldn't surprise me if they nominated something along the lines
[00:55:43] of goose and Tola where they might be looking at like a backdoor of like Matt or even Anthony
[00:55:52] but I would assume it would go to Matt because I think that spicy avry and Kayla would prefer Matt
[00:55:57] get back to her um and then they would actually be able to vote him out and it just makes a little more
[00:56:01] sense that way so um that's kind of where I see things standing with the biggest thing here of course
[00:56:09] is that there's once again kind of four people ending it's it's you know Bailey Todd goose and Tola
[00:56:17] and hot chocolate should still be in control there's no real reason for them to like super split
[00:56:24] up at this point even though their objectives are still a bit at odds um I think that's where we
[00:56:31] stand at the current moment. And in i guess the thing is for as mad as Matt seems about this move
[00:56:38] and for as much as like spicy went against the will of Anthony and all of them in in what she did
[00:56:44] here. The thing about this kind of play is that what can they do about
[00:56:50] yeah they don't have the relationship with Bailey and Todd regardless of what happens
[00:56:55] they do still have their relationship with spicy it's not like they can just drop spicy and go
[00:57:00] Bailey and Todd we've been working together so well this whole time they still have to deal with
[00:57:06] them first uh they are still a problem that are in the way and it doesn't make any sense for them
[00:57:10] to waste a shot at potential still allies like every like uh every Kayla and uh in spicy v when
[00:57:18] those two are still standing there so it does still feel like there's a buffer there now on the
[00:57:23] on the flip side of things are is goose and Tola a good enough like shield standing in the way
[00:57:29] like obstacle in the way of targeting somebody like Matt not quite uh there really is a lot more
[00:57:35] opportunity there for the women to take a premature shot um but uh you know it really just depends
[00:57:41] on who wins the HOH this morning. I beg Bailey to win how well what can I do right like
[00:57:48] is there an executive veto for Sasha only where I come in and just say here you go
[00:57:55] do you imagine uh like I don't want to give them any ideas but like no no
[00:58:02] gets the chance to veto an HOH for some. I want no way yeah because listen me and the new Finland
[00:58:11] we are on what you can't do right so actually yeah. That's true wouldn't it quite worked on a
[00:58:17] season like season 10 where anything not Marty. Me because the thing is I beg that they don't
[00:58:24] vote Todd and just so Bailey. I think me and the new new Finlanders are you know together on that
[00:58:30] like the babies are proxy for Todd. The voters don't have to be super strategic about it they
[00:58:36] tend to stop wanting to do this. Oh my god because imagine Todd's each. I mean the way the way
[00:58:45] that the audience votes it's it's like they would they would like pump all the votes into Todd
[00:58:51] and then Todd wins and it's like yeah you just vetoed his win. Oh wait. Oh damn.
[00:58:57] Y'all say it vote for him so that's what we did. I'm with Odin so I'm like but I click the
[00:59:01] button. When do we know I mean do we when is the HOH I would do we know oh is there's HOH
[00:59:08] competition like today's yeah when did they when did they do last night the executive stuff this all
[00:59:13] this whole thing was filmed last night. Okay we're concerned okay because I'm trying to figure out
[00:59:20] why Dennis wasn't at the taping because I'm sorry somebody should have gave him the heads up.
[00:59:24] Dennis that have been literally dragged out if you like we have to pause actually we're gonna tape it
[00:59:31] and tomorrow. If you know you know if you don't know just sit back relax and then Dennis needs to
[00:59:37] be on stage with the rest of the just just to see. I just I love um a Rissa's moment right it
[00:59:47] was the Julie Chen slapping um yes Marcelo's thank you um okay because she's like so how does it
[00:59:56] feel to sleep in the bed that you made. I'm telling you like somebody make sure Vivek like
[01:00:07] gets a good therapist after this because the sky has been through it. Be nice y'all okay dump we
[01:00:14] love dump people yeah that is what makes the show fun all right stop it we want mess so you need
[01:00:22] people like Vivek to go on this show and be like I'ma win the show and that equals I am gonna be third
[01:00:29] or fourth out. It's fine we want mess so be nice so then more messy people go on the damn show.
[01:00:36] Right honestly like what an epic for like because I get it like the way that I think both
[01:00:43] Dennis and Vivek went out at this point like they're both gonna be very upset with the way that
[01:00:49] you know everything played out but like I do genuinely think that um for players in the long
[01:00:58] long run like when they're able to look back at the show. When they do go out in like a memorable
[01:01:03] way and like sort of like this epic storyline. I do think it eventually gives you some kind of like
[01:01:10] you know what at least I contributed to something that was really cool and entertaining even if I
[01:01:15] have to look like the fool or even if I had to like be at the brunt's end of it. Like at least I
[01:01:22] contributed toward like the show instead of just kind of like being somebody that unceremoniously
[01:01:28] you know walked out the door because of somebody running the show you know what I mean like all right
[01:01:34] there's something that you can like lie and like memorable like we're gonna remember Dennis
[01:01:40] and Vivek. I was saying Terence. Quite frankly the two of them need to be on like a redemption
[01:01:52] Dennis, I think you're going to your attorneys it's Dennis and Vivek. Yeah you know what I mean
[01:01:57] I think I think people might not work together. First time in the hour. Yeah that might be
[01:02:06] the new thing that people should be looking for you do like the person who turned the ally against
[01:02:11] all reason who just screwed up and then the ally goes out immediately after like that person
[01:02:15] goes out immediately after because we've seen the trope a bunch of times even if you think back
[01:02:19] to like Bessie and Scotty. Yeah we were all listed. Who flipped? Me and our goo is like flip
[01:02:26] flip and fascinate. Who was flip? Who was flip? Who was the flipper? You know like that kind of stuff
[01:02:32] that those at a moment were like yeah let those two people just play together we don't need anybody
[01:02:36] else to put those to the house yeah there'd be one vote and they'd be both trying to figure out who
[01:02:41] did it you know who's like what duh um yeah we've seen this before I would love that pick the people
[01:02:46] who trust each other the least who could just never uh because I mean like you said no one in this
[01:02:51] game should be able to trust of Vivek at that point nobody not one person but for his number one
[01:02:56] ally to be sitting at home watching this thinking I was the one person you know and he got rid of me
[01:03:03] you left me for dead you left me for dead we make believe is I love him but what a mess
[01:03:12] yeah and I mean honestly and like here's the thing if it's any consolation to the dentist like
[01:03:16] this twist probably would have screwed him this week anyway yeah thank you for the gun so screwed by
[01:03:22] this twist but listen if I'm gonna go to listen and like you know what out a good
[01:03:31] put two good players up on the block maybe they would have been an option for dentist or
[01:03:36] if that's the thing is that did like Dennis probably takes this bullet instead of Vivek
[01:03:42] yeah or Dennis wins the HOH because he actually was good at challenges you know well then it probably
[01:03:47] school would have been if you think and again look no harm no foul we would have figured out later on
[01:03:52] that I was for the greater good you know I'm just saying oh there would have been options
[01:03:58] there would have been options yeah um oh one of my favorite things is there when they go in
[01:04:03] there and they have Vivek in uh in in the room and he's like got his allies in he's just like okay so
[01:04:10] do we have the votes to save me and they're like okay okay we might be able to get their like no he's
[01:04:16] like but do I have your votes okay all right there's two of us okay we need there's a do I have your
[01:04:23] votes how many votes do we need how many votes do we need how many I need your votes do I have
[01:04:31] the four of us all four of us can we switch an agree he's like they're like right just that's
[01:04:37] just not going to be enough there's somebody else we could get because like goose right like yeah
[01:04:44] it goes to Anthony and Anthony looks up dead and I was like yeah they're not voting for you
[01:04:49] they're not voting for me are you voting for me you don't have the votes I'm sorry you're not
[01:04:54] gonna get the votes you're going home and he said what do you mean I don't understand
[01:04:57] I'm like giving his best gender for Lawrence what are you paying me no I don't know I really
[01:05:04] I'm telling like the difference killed me I'm sorry I'm the only person that can say it but like
[01:05:10] them standing and he's like dad please I'm telling the only thing that would have made this a better
[01:05:17] episode is if like after the like maybe after the the like last like the deciding vote was red
[01:05:24] Vivek just stood up and went like all right I mean I I made an alliance with Kayla
[01:05:32] I see an Anthony last week to take out Dennis they promised me that we would be working together
[01:05:37] but clearly they have other things going on so I guess I'm just being used and thrown out
[01:05:44] literally name some names you know like the game yeah people don't blow up enough games for me
[01:05:51] and that's what pisses me off that really chaps my ass because let me tell you something if you
[01:05:56] get blind blindsided the way that this man got blindsided and he had no allies these people just
[01:06:02] completely spun him around and just like through him out the door I would be on my way out hugging
[01:06:07] each person whispering in someone's ear saying something else like you know they're kind of like you
[01:06:13] just make it up why don't they lie on the way out like is there something in the contract that
[01:06:19] says you can't do that okay I'm so confused because either you're freaking quit the game
[01:06:26] because you don't let them vote you out because that's so embarrassing you're crying and hugging
[01:06:32] them no be like oh actually it goes Anthony told me that you're out right I'm just I'm a lie but
[01:06:39] you're listen listen everyone toxic 101 right you have to sprinkle some truth some truth
[01:06:44] know that you know what Mimi did on her way out the door he was made up an alliance with
[01:06:52] and it worked you know it like through everybody off people like well remember that time Mimi
[01:06:55] said that and people like who is Mimi you know like that that kind of stuff sticks with people
[01:07:00] do it just do it it can't hurt you you already lost the game do something don't you want to be
[01:07:05] memorable I would want those people in the house talking about me four weeks later me like thank you
[01:07:09] about that shapel bomb he dropped on the way out we really should think about that again but nope
[01:07:14] now you just get us laughing at you on here and you know what we're happy that you played the game
[01:07:18] you did a great job again this is a game I would never apply to play for because I'm not crazy
[01:07:23] but you I'm going out first I know yeah look and I'll go embarrass me and my mom and everybody
[01:07:28] else who love me so let's see yeah people are to be covering their face like I don't know him
[01:07:34] you know we didn't pick him in the draft anyway right he was dead last of a draft anyway see
[01:07:39] my traders win uh but yeah it's just the things that happen here when look I'm just saying when you
[01:07:45] when you have these moments take them make the best of them and I feel like he had a good time you
[01:07:50] know so we get somebody to talk about and people were reminded to the next big thing come
[01:07:54] and he's a fan right like this is not some casual they picked up off the street to be like oh
[01:07:58] you're a hot content creator let's just put you in the damn house he's talking about I've seen
[01:08:04] everything I have you know what like every season internet it don't matter blah blah blah I've
[01:08:10] seen it all then stand up do something that I just don't understand why they hug
[01:08:17] like the one thing Cody did correct and that's why he has asked America's favorite player that
[01:08:24] season why cuz he got he literally long jumped out of the house because he said couldn't be me
[01:08:32] I'm not hugging not one of you or you do you do you do the micro except the big brother Canada
[01:08:39] house is way too big to pull this off but you do the micro and you just start to walk out of the
[01:08:43] house before you finish your sentence so he's like walking up the stairs like I only have one thing
[01:08:47] to say to you guys yeah losers you know like that's that's the kind of stuff I would like to see
[01:08:55] be a sore loser why not these people just play in your face for roughly 30 days get your revenge
[01:09:00] get treat yourself and if it's really important to you to like like show some sportsmanship right the
[01:09:06] second you like step out of the door to the other side like well that's over no hard
[01:09:14] deal was I yeah I just don't know how I'm done but I got to but I couldn't leave you know
[01:09:19] like that's why you have to arrest us sorry I know I messed it up but I couldn't let them have it
[01:09:24] and that's all and you never tweet about the show never you don't even know what show this is
[01:09:30] people still watch big brother what is that you're like what do you mean it's still on yeah and then
[01:09:34] you come back and play all stars because you made such a big exit that people want you back
[01:09:37] I like the lore will speak for itself we need to teach a course the three of us which we
[01:09:42] our powers combined y'all we could we could make so much money that's what I'm saying okay because
[01:09:48] Taryn would actually give them good advice but then we come in as a dream on right so they
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[01:10:27] as everyone else what do you mean did you go to Tadrix house yes guess who else made it right here
[01:10:33] Taryn right listen I'll go sit down and have coffee with somebody find out their marketing strategy
[01:10:39] and then you know start my own business do we it might be a little puzzling for all of us but listen
[01:10:44] we could do it yeah obstacle sorts yeah for sure yeah those who can't do a teach so
[01:10:51] so let us teach you and the thing is look around my toxicity speaks for itself so I'm teaching you that
[01:11:01] let's not get it twisted all right anything else we should touch on before we wrap up here
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[01:12:54] all right we need to end this podcast we're about to retire off Rob we'll make
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[01:13:08] than the big brother Canada winners all right well that was our executive podcast
[01:13:17] because we've been cosplaying as executives all time
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