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[00:01:25] Hello everyone and welcome to RHAP.
[00:01:29] I'm your host, Ranan Armstrong and we are here tonight to talk about this Tuesday night
[00:01:33] episode of Big Brother Canada 12.
[00:01:37] We're not usually here on a Tuesday night but we did have to skip the Friday podcast because
[00:01:42] there was no information.
[00:01:44] There's nothing to talk about on Friday.
[00:01:47] Basically everything we talked about on Wednesday was all the information we still had
[00:01:53] on Friday.
[00:01:54] Instead we decided to push the podcast to Tuesday so that we'd have more stuff to talk about.
[00:01:59] We now have some episodes as well as 12 hours of drops from just what they dropped
[00:02:05] today over the course of four previous days that they had not dropped information.
[00:02:10] That's why we are here tonight on a Tuesday night to talk through it all and with me
[00:02:14] talk through it all.
[00:02:15] It's Maggie.
[00:02:16] Hi, Taryn.
[00:02:17] Hi, I'm on.
[00:02:19] I'm doing great.
[00:02:20] Oh sorry.
[00:02:21] I just introduced the second guest but I just am excited to be here with both of you.
[00:02:27] It's been a minute since we've been on a podcast together and I'm so excited to talk.
[00:02:31] I wish there was maybe a little more to talk about but we'll talk about what we got
[00:02:35] and we got a decent amount of stuff.
[00:02:37] So I'm excited to be here.
[00:02:39] Let's do this.
[00:02:40] Yes, well also here tonight is in fact, I'm on.
[00:02:44] How you doing?
[00:02:45] I'm on.
[00:02:46] Hello, Taryn and Maggie.
[00:02:47] I'm really excited to be here.
[00:02:50] I mean, I feel like I felt like we got a nice little chunk of info to talk about.
[00:02:54] I didn't watch all 12 hours of the day, at least today.
[00:02:57] I just simply.
[00:02:58] How could you have?
[00:02:59] I wasn't able to.
[00:03:00] Exactly.
[00:03:01] I just wasn't able to.
[00:03:02] I tried to get as much as I could but I started with the latest one because I felt like
[00:03:08] I was like let's just cut to the chase right and so I feel like it was kind of like
[00:03:12] a nice game of those TV shows or those crime mysteries where you see the result and then
[00:03:17] you go back and like watch how it happened.
[00:03:19] That's kind of like what I was like doing throughout the day today.
[00:03:21] So I kind of made a little fun in my eyes, but yeah, I'm excited.
[00:03:24] I'm excited to talk about everything and see where this is going to go for tomorrow.
[00:03:29] Yeah, we will.
[00:03:30] I won't spoil anything right now, but my experience watching the daily is because I do not go out
[00:03:35] of order because I wouldn't be able to.
[00:03:38] I wouldn't have the heart to go backwards.
[00:03:42] Also, like just can anyone believe that you would go out of order?
[00:03:45] Have they met you?
[00:03:46] Come on.
[00:03:47] You know, we all have it on the agenda.
[00:03:49] I do see the headlines, right?
[00:03:52] I know generally what's going to happen and what to look out for.
[00:03:58] But so basically I watched roughly nine hours of the drops thinking how in the world is
[00:04:03] what they say is going to happen, going to happen.
[00:04:05] It doesn't make any sense to me.
[00:04:07] And then what the flip happens, which we'll talk about eventually.
[00:04:12] That's what I got so upset about because I feel like for the most part, I do what you
[00:04:17] do.
[00:04:18] And I just sort of, you know, I watch because some people will even like the daily will
[00:04:22] drop and then they'll go to the end of the daily and people have information on Twitter
[00:04:25] already for what happens at the end.
[00:04:28] And like, and I like to be on Twitter.
[00:04:30] I like to like be a part of the live conversation as I was like, you know what this time?
[00:04:33] I'm just going to go to the end and see what happens.
[00:04:36] And then I'll go back because I just I hate it like, you know, I always have to play
[00:04:39] catch up.
[00:04:41] But just the whole of the digital daily, you know?
[00:04:44] Yes.
[00:04:45] I was unfortunately at jury duty today.
[00:04:48] So I didn't get a chance.
[00:04:50] I know I didn't get picked for a jury.
[00:04:51] I'm gonna use the cake.
[00:04:52] Oh, okay never mind.
[00:04:53] Well, it was and they interviewed me and then they didn't pick me.
[00:04:57] So, you know, I guess I wasn't the right candidate.
[00:04:59] But so I didn't get to see the digital days with my own eyes.
[00:05:03] But I went to all of the sources on Twitter.
[00:05:05] I feel like I gathered some of the info.
[00:05:08] I'm ready.
[00:05:09] I'm ready to listen to the stories that you two have to tell us.
[00:05:12] Yeah, I mean, if it wasn't my job, I think I would probably just avoid Twitter and go
[00:05:18] blind through the daily is because I do think it's less interesting to know what's going
[00:05:22] to happen at least with the daily's.
[00:05:27] But we're here to talk about the episodes.
[00:05:28] Let's talk about goose is our HOH.
[00:05:33] We nominated Todd and Tolla.
[00:05:37] And I mean, let me tell you this whole week has felt like every other week where the HOH
[00:05:45] is making wild decisions trusting spicy too much.
[00:05:51] And spicy is trying to actively work against Anthony while also conceding to what he wants
[00:05:59] is what I would say, but it's more often like what she thinks he would want than what
[00:06:05] he's actually pushing for.
[00:06:08] But Todd and Tolla right from the get go by the way, terrible nominations as far as I'm concerned.
[00:06:14] He had a good relationship with Tolla not really any relationship with Todd.
[00:06:21] Bailey just spent an entire week trying to get him evicted.
[00:06:26] At the very least you do want to and I will say this about his HOH.
[00:06:30] You do want to foster a proxy.
[00:06:34] You want somebody from Anthony's side theoretically and somebody from spicy side now he doesn't
[00:06:41] know that those are the sides necessarily, but ideally you do get two of those people up.
[00:06:47] I think Vivek was the obvious choice instead of Tolla put up on the block along the way.
[00:06:54] Bailey who again, it was already not on your side and really gets the women to fight even
[00:07:01] harder.
[00:07:02] But hey, yes of course, of course, Vivek is like the choice he nominated you last week,
[00:07:11] like what?
[00:07:12] But also what is going on with Todd?
[00:07:18] We'll get into it in the episode but are you kidding me?
[00:07:22] But as a viewer, I'm like okay, I guess he can go.
[00:07:25] What even is this?
[00:07:27] It's ridiculous.
[00:07:29] I'm like you might have had he might have had a good relationship with him but there's
[00:07:32] clear there's no game sense happening from this man.
[00:07:37] He's irrelevant to your game if he's going to be throwing a veto what's going on.
[00:07:44] I agree with you like Vivek was the choice, but also I'm not that mad about the Todd
[00:07:50] choice if he's doing everything that he's doing, which is nothing.
[00:07:55] Yeah, personally speaking, I mean, you need to get up to sit in his chair.
[00:08:05] It's so and you know what, to his credit, which we'll talk about later on, we do get to
[00:08:09] see him spice it up just a little bit but it's very much giving bench warmer bench for
[00:08:16] the next.
[00:08:18] Oh my gosh, I'm not kidding that when because you know me and the competitions like don't
[00:08:24] love them.
[00:08:25] So I was moving about my room while the competition was going on and when I heard him
[00:08:30] say like I'm just going to sit back.
[00:08:33] I don't want to be out in front.
[00:08:34] I don't want to like I want to sit back so that I was like I felt like Brittany when
[00:08:40] Kathy was like taking her time.
[00:08:42] I was like do you know where you are?
[00:08:45] Are you kidding me?
[00:08:48] Yeah, very much that energy.
[00:08:54] Well with Todd and Tolla on the block, this is when I do think that it was an interesting
[00:09:02] experience.
[00:09:03] I will say watching Sunday's episode with zero context from props feeds anything because
[00:09:11] I think it made me realize like I take for granted just how much the extra knowledge enhances
[00:09:19] my experience of watching the episodes because watching Sunday's episode and trying to actually
[00:09:25] figure out what happened with like, who's H.O.H. and why he made the nominations.
[00:09:30] He did.
[00:09:31] I was like none of this makes any sense.
[00:09:32] No, it's so much missing from this.
[00:09:38] And then I watched tonight and I was explaining what happened in the drops in between during
[00:09:44] the commercial breaks to the chat.
[00:09:47] And there were people in my chat like oh, I'm so glad you just explained that bit to me about
[00:09:51] where Goose is coming from because what he's doing right now would have made no sense.
[00:09:55] And I didn't even realize that it wouldn't have made sense.
[00:09:58] Now I'm realizing like just again, how much it really does enhance the experience to
[00:10:05] have this knowledge.
[00:10:06] And I do get that like the spoiler side of things can detract from the experience, I think,
[00:10:13] to some degree.
[00:10:14] But I do think that the knowledge trade off is absolutely worth it at least for me because
[00:10:22] this episode I think also didn't make genuinely doesn't make a lot of sense and definitely
[00:10:27] doesn't capture even what we were able to see in the drops from today in terms of what
[00:10:34] happened with this video.
[00:10:36] Why wasn't it used?
[00:10:37] What was the actual plan?
[00:10:39] Where does Goose actually stand in all of this?
[00:10:41] I was confused on Sunday as to why Anthony was like, I'm going to make sure I protect
[00:10:45] Cola and then never seemingly had a conversation with Goose and then Cola just went up and
[00:10:51] I was like, I thought Goose was with Anthony.
[00:10:53] Why is he going against Anthony?
[00:10:55] Well, this is why he's not with Anthony.
[00:10:59] He's with spicy.
[00:11:00] This is actually an extremely loyal spicy soldier and you, I don't think necessarily would
[00:11:07] have known that from the drops or the episodes to be clear.
[00:11:11] But we finally did figure it out this week on the drop.
[00:11:15] I feel like Big Brother Canada wants to be survivors so bad.
[00:11:21] Like it's always these conversations, these seemingly pivotal conversations that we see
[00:11:25] in both the episode and the daylies that end in a cliffhanger or a will they won't
[00:11:32] face situation, which doesn't always necessarily make sense for the outcome that we eventually
[00:11:38] do get.
[00:11:39] So I'm like, you're doing all of this misleading and you're only letting us, first of all,
[00:11:42] you're only letting us see certain conversations that you want because you want to form this
[00:11:47] narrative of what's going to happen.
[00:11:49] And then you try to follow suit in the episode but then sometimes what we get in the daylies
[00:11:55] doesn't necessarily coincide with what you're actually showing in the edited fit.
[00:11:59] So it's like, you're telling two stories at one time and it's just too much.
[00:12:04] Like honestly, it would make again, if we had just regular feeds, it would be much more
[00:12:12] better but because of the fact that they're trying to tell a story on the feeds, it's
[00:12:17] like, what are we doing?
[00:12:19] I just, I can't, I can't, I can't, especially with what happened in this episode
[00:12:24] right now with the whole conversation between it, we'll get to it but the whole conversation
[00:12:28] between Elijah and Alexis about what's going to happen with the video.
[00:12:34] I was like, you're trying to like form this edit around like the, it just doesn't, it's
[00:12:40] not coalescing, it's not making sense.
[00:12:42] The through line is weird.
[00:12:44] Everyone is which way?
[00:12:45] I just don't, I don't get it.
[00:12:49] I really don't.
[00:12:51] Yes.
[00:12:52] Take it.
[00:12:54] So basically what was happening here is that, Goose obviously was told by Tolla the truth
[00:13:01] which is that Kayla was campaigning for him to go.
[00:13:04] He then went to Kayla with that information.
[00:13:06] They were like, okay, so Tolla really has to go and he was perfectly willing to do
[00:13:09] that.
[00:13:10] Like, Tolla is trying to mess with me talking about my allies.
[00:13:14] Tolla and Tolla on the block make sense and the Bailey back door was still on the table
[00:13:18] because she was also obviously nobody denied that she was campaigning produced ago a
[00:13:23] week before, but the women didn't actually want Bailey to leave.
[00:13:27] So they were working on convincing Goose to actually go with the Tolla plan and pretty
[00:13:34] quickly he was like, I don't actually want Bailey to go.
[00:13:37] I want Tolla to go.
[00:13:40] And he even was rooting for Bailey in the veto competition because he didn't want to have
[00:13:45] to put Bailey on the block to appease the other side.
[00:13:49] And at one point he even was like, if I had to put somebody up it'll be Vivek now.
[00:13:54] But that's a whole other side plot that didn't end up going anywhere obviously.
[00:14:00] But the point being Goose was very firmly on the side of, I'm with spicy Kayla and Avery.
[00:14:10] They want Bailey to stay.
[00:14:11] They want Todd to stay.
[00:14:12] They want Tolla to go.
[00:14:14] I'm going to support them in that decision.
[00:14:16] I want Tolla to go.
[00:14:18] Whatever that means he stays on the block against Todd.
[00:14:20] He gets, Todd gets replaced with Vivek or Todd gets replaced with Bailey no matter what
[00:14:25] happens we have the votes to send Tolla home regardless which is half a vent.
[00:14:29] Pola from getting off the block.
[00:14:31] That was basically the idea pre veto.
[00:14:35] Okay.
[00:14:36] Okay.
[00:14:37] That's not what we saw.
[00:14:41] Right.
[00:14:42] That's why I like this is brand new information for me.
[00:14:47] Okay?
[00:14:48] So the veto happens we see Lexus wins it.
[00:14:55] Now the plan basically as soon as Lexus won was that Goose was like, okay, I guess we're
[00:15:01] dropping the Vivek stuff probably because Lexus and Anthony and Matt are all celebrating
[00:15:08] like, we got her.
[00:15:10] Bailey's done.
[00:15:13] And so they're like, so Bailey's going up right and he's like, yes, Bailey's going up
[00:15:17] but he's actually talking to Kayla and spicy and Avery about how okay, so Bailey will need
[00:15:22] to go up but we're still going to vote to keep her.
[00:15:25] We have the votes.
[00:15:26] Tolla will go.
[00:15:28] We just need to make sure that Lexus uses the veto on Todd and not Tolla and then we saw
[00:15:33] a little bit of that in the episodes.
[00:15:34] So there was a little bit of back and forth.
[00:15:37] I've never really got decided though who it would be used because it didn't matter.
[00:15:41] Yeah.
[00:15:42] Now while all this is happening, we also see this from the episodes there's the Matt Lexus
[00:15:48] drama right?
[00:15:51] So again, Lex doesn't so quickly.
[00:15:56] Totally goes coincidentally as well.
[00:16:00] Tolla tells Matt watch out or sorry tolla tells Goose watch out for Kayla.
[00:16:05] Goose runs its a Kayla.
[00:16:06] Matt warns Goose.
[00:16:07] Hey, watch out for Kayla.
[00:16:09] There's a reason she didn't use the veto on you.
[00:16:12] There was campaigning going on and we as we saw Goose runs that straight to Kayla multiple
[00:16:18] time and Kayla goes to Anthony multiple times as a part of her pitch to convince Anthony.
[00:16:26] Why is she trying to convince Anthony?
[00:16:27] You might say why is she bringing this to Anthony?
[00:16:29] It's because of spicy because spicy is playing both sides as she's been doing.
[00:16:33] She's going to Anthony and saying, I want to keep Tolla.
[00:16:36] I agree with you but these girls really want to keep Todd and I can't go against them.
[00:16:43] They'll kill me.
[00:16:44] So you need to convince them to agree with you because I'm stuck.
[00:16:50] And then she's going to the women and she's saying, Hey guys, Anthony's pushing so hard for
[00:16:55] Tolla to stay.
[00:16:56] I can't believe him.
[00:16:57] We can't let him win.
[00:16:58] He's going to try and convince you but don't listen to him.
[00:17:02] But he's the vote we need.
[00:17:04] He's the person we need to convince.
[00:17:06] Like we need to convince him beyond board because that maintains her position in the
[00:17:10] middle.
[00:17:11] She doesn't have to choose a side.
[00:17:12] She wants them to convince each other.
[00:17:13] She's getting them to interact and so Kayla is trying to convince Anthony that Tolla needs
[00:17:19] to go because hey, who is telling me that Tolla said my name?
[00:17:23] Who is this telling me that Matt said my name?
[00:17:25] If I can't trust Matt, I can't trust Tolla there together.
[00:17:27] The whole package deal.
[00:17:28] I need Todd in the game.
[00:17:31] So Anthony now knows what's happening with Goose.
[00:17:34] He's trying to discredit Goose.
[00:17:35] He's trying to say, Hey, Goose is just saying a bunch of things to a bunch of people but
[00:17:39] then he says it to Kayla again.
[00:17:41] Kayla goes back to Anthony.
[00:17:42] We saw this in the episode and Anthony's trying to get her to talk to Matt.
[00:17:45] She doesn't want to.
[00:17:47] And we see this scene that was not in the drops where Kayla goes out into the backyard and
[00:17:53] rants about slump.
[00:17:54] Now,
[00:18:02] Good, Kayla.
[00:18:03] Can I just say?
[00:18:06] So in the drops they cut straight from Anthony trying to get Kayla to go grab Matt for him
[00:18:12] so that they can talk straight to the women.
[00:18:16] I believe in the backyard being like he knows how does Matt know, how does he know?
[00:18:21] He must know.
[00:18:22] You see the way he was acting around us, he must know.
[00:18:26] And so I was wondering how this happened, did Matt actually know?
[00:18:31] And so to see this scene, we're so obvious.
[00:18:37] They're like we can't tell Matt.
[00:18:40] We can't let him know that we know.
[00:18:42] And then they're like we hate you.
[00:18:45] Basically, we hate you.
[00:18:47] We think you should leave.
[00:18:48] Get out of here.
[00:18:49] I couldn't tell.
[00:18:50] I couldn't tell if Matt knew or not.
[00:18:52] I was like, wait, I was like wait, is this just like editing magic where like it want me
[00:18:59] to think that he knows?
[00:19:00] Or does he know?
[00:19:02] Because the whole padding of the back with Kayla was so, ooh, I just like I felt his hand
[00:19:09] on my back.
[00:19:10] I was like don't touch me.
[00:19:12] I know this sometimes in these games and you know, this is maybe not.
[00:19:19] I would feel more like confident in saying this assumption about Matt.
[00:19:24] Like if we had a few, obviously all the disclaimers, but like I've noticed sometimes in these games
[00:19:31] that people who perhaps have not experienced like sadness or you know like friendship drama
[00:19:41] in their childhood come on big brother and then they don't pick up on things like this.
[00:19:47] You know, like people who seem like they just like you know, they're just like chill people.
[00:19:52] Like men or women, you know, like just more like chill people who just want to have a good
[00:19:56] time and hang.
[00:19:57] Like sometimes they don't pick up on stuff like this.
[00:20:01] And I feel like we see these types of scenes kind of a lot on big brother where someone
[00:20:06] will be there and like everybody will be looking at each other and they'll be obviously talking
[00:20:11] in code about them and the person will be just like chillin.
[00:20:14] So it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know actually.
[00:20:18] I was like, what's going on?
[00:20:20] Well, that was the thing is that they were convinced that he knew, but there was no indication
[00:20:26] that I saw in any of the future drops that he had any idea.
[00:20:32] But they were convinced that he knew which brought them to talking about we need him to
[00:20:38] go up on the block this week.
[00:20:40] We need to get goose to do this.
[00:20:42] So they pitched goose essentially.
[00:20:44] You should do this and goose is like, whoa, that's too much.
[00:20:48] That's a bridge car.
[00:20:50] And so the idea gets shut down.
[00:20:55] But so through all of this, the plan is for the veto to be used.
[00:20:59] Lexus plans to have a conversation with goose, the day of to decide who they're going
[00:21:04] to use it on because they have differing opinions.
[00:21:08] Now again, we miss a lot.
[00:21:11] But somewhere in there it certainly doesn't seem to be the conversation they showed
[00:21:14] in the episode because between spicy and Lexus in the car that did it because Lexus later
[00:21:20] explains that the reason she doesn't want to use the veto is because she's now heard
[00:21:24] from Bailey that like all of this information from about goose and how goose might want
[00:21:30] to back or mat.
[00:21:32] And so why would she use the veto if maybe Matt's going to go on the block?
[00:21:36] Now why does Bailey, a, mention this to Lexus, b, know the information in the first place.
[00:21:45] Why is everyone telling everyone everything?
[00:21:47] Why is goose telling Kayla about tola and Matt?
[00:21:50] Why is Spire spicy and Kayla talking about all of this like anti-mat, anti-duggy stuff
[00:21:57] around Bailey?
[00:21:58] Why is Kayla talking to Anthony about Matt's stuff from goose?
[00:22:05] There's so much information leakage going on.
[00:22:08] It's absurd.
[00:22:09] I'm saying it.
[00:22:10] I also, I was also about to say I think that that's why Spice has been able to get away with
[00:22:16] what she's been able to get away with so far because it's the culture of the house sort
[00:22:20] of like it's not locked down at all.
[00:22:22] It's pretty leaky.
[00:22:23] It's leaky and fast and loose.
[00:22:26] So a player like Spice TV, it sort of contributes to what I always say which is like the main
[00:22:33] strategy, like the person in the house who's the main strategy driver kind of gets to create
[00:22:38] the culture of the house which is why sometimes the house culture is more friendly than it
[00:22:43] is other times.
[00:22:44] And that would make sense if Spice TV has been kind of the one in the driver's seat the
[00:22:48] whole time that this is just like a disaster strategy wise and terms of keeping it tight.
[00:22:54] See I think I agree.
[00:22:55] I think it's also partly to blame with Anthony as well because I feel like there's
[00:22:59] like this whole narrative of like if you say Anthony's name, and then you don't come to
[00:23:05] him and tell him and reassure him that he's going to be gone.
[00:23:08] So everyone is like saying like, oh well I did say this but it was only because of this
[00:23:12] in this that in the third.
[00:23:14] So don't worry because I'm going to see this ahead of time.
[00:23:17] So then you don't have to worry about it later on down the line.
[00:23:19] And so like everyone's just like saying, I want to spill this but it actually might be true
[00:23:23] on my end, but I want you to know that someone to tell you that I'm saying even though
[00:23:26] it is true on my end, but I want you to know that if I come back to me, then you know
[00:23:32] that I told you I read ahead of time.
[00:23:34] So if it does come back to you, you know, I already said it.
[00:23:37] So it's like it's just this whole like culture of just like being like, oh, I want to get
[00:23:41] ahead of it even if it's true or even if it's not true.
[00:23:43] It's your right.
[00:23:44] It's a little serene at the beginning of last season when she was running that game.
[00:23:49] But like this is this is the thing, right?
[00:23:51] And the whole story is that like you say Anthony's name, you go home.
[00:23:57] But like the reality is that spicy is getting people to say Anthony's name, then telling
[00:24:04] Anthony about it, then targeting the person for Anthony, then regretting it, trying
[00:24:10] to reverse it, but the momentum is too his too gone too far.
[00:24:14] Then being like how is he doing this?
[00:24:18] Everybody that says his name goes home, he's controlling the whole house.
[00:24:21] It's like spicy.
[00:24:22] And you're actually controlling the house and she can say his name all she wants after
[00:24:26] that because that's the if a mess, it is an entire mess.
[00:24:35] Like I can't.
[00:24:37] I, oh, a lot of people have been like saying like, oh, spicy these just like doing too much
[00:24:43] or she is just out here just to like cause chaos.
[00:24:48] I honestly feel like a bit of that is true.
[00:24:50] I do believe that, but I also agree with you, Terran, in that like I think that she is
[00:24:55] doing a lot to like ride the middle, but she's so messy of a person, but also not messy
[00:25:04] enough to know, like not messy enough to not realize that like the more that you do this,
[00:25:10] the more you are kind of giving the game to Anthony in the end.
[00:25:13] And you're starting to realize that, but now you're like it's getting to the point
[00:25:18] where it's like it's getting too blatant to pull it back so now you're trying to like
[00:25:21] find this easy middle to get controlled again.
[00:25:24] And it's this is what we are left with.
[00:25:28] It's just like the cost and back and forth of people relaying messages to Anthony through
[00:25:33] V.
[00:25:34] Like it's so much.
[00:25:35] Oh my God, it's a mess.
[00:25:37] Why can't we have the feeds?
[00:25:39] I'm just a mess.
[00:25:44] Should we talk about the Vito competition?
[00:25:46] I feel like in terms of pouring.
[00:25:49] Yeah, I mean, like in terms of like it's just another kind of Vito competition where
[00:25:57] the nominees if they didn't want the nominees to win, there's no chance the nominees
[00:26:04] were going to win.
[00:26:09] I think it's probably not a huge coincidence as a Vito that didn't get used.
[00:26:16] I think that it was, it's always most likely going to go to the person that is the least
[00:26:21] likely to use it.
[00:26:24] And so unless like everyone is on board to use it.
[00:26:28] So I think maybe not exactly like super well thought out there.
[00:26:33] Yeah, I mean it wasn't like the most exciting.
[00:26:35] I think it was at least probably decently fair so I can give it that but like.
[00:26:44] Yeah, I like the variety of the comp.
[00:26:47] So like sort of you know, choose your an adventure type deal.
[00:26:50] That was kind of fun and engaging but yeah, I agree.
[00:26:54] Like it's one of those comps where yet it's kind of like easy to game if you want to start
[00:26:59] now.
[00:27:00] So yeah, whatever.
[00:27:04] I was not just like the types of like comps where it's like one person trying to race against
[00:27:14] the clock rather than racing against each other is just less exciting to me.
[00:27:21] Yeah, I think for TV.
[00:27:24] Yeah, I agree.
[00:27:25] I think that there's a better way to do it.
[00:27:28] Maybe like one on one matches or something like, but you know in general, I think the
[00:27:36] time or stuff is just not super.
[00:27:37] I will say I didn't like notice blatant timer manipulation at the very least which is
[00:27:45] nice because these are even worse when it's like three.
[00:27:50] Two.
[00:27:52] Two.
[00:27:53] You're talking traders timers.
[00:27:55] Terran.
[00:27:56] And now he's talking about more timers, you know basically any one of these somehow somehow
[00:28:03] they always get it in right under the wire.
[00:28:07] So yes and we see that Lexus wins her second comp win after her first win in the she won
[00:28:16] safety in the first week.
[00:28:18] So you know watch out for Lexus but like, Hey Bailey did very well as well.
[00:28:22] I mean, I have to say one thing about Bailey and it's that I am so sad this season specifically
[00:28:33] we don't have the stock watch because I would be obsessed with hearing everybody talk
[00:28:39] about Bailey's position because she has been playing pretty much all wrong but also like
[00:28:46] is it really her fault and also she's been scrappy and she somehow it's found herself
[00:28:51] like I think in a much better position than I expected her to be at this point but she
[00:28:54] still also is in a great deal of danger but she does seem like the type of player who can
[00:28:59] squeak through to the final four.
[00:29:01] Like, you know what I mean?
[00:29:02] Like, I don't think she's dead in the water and I think she's the type of person that
[00:29:07] if she makes it past a certain point could really gain momentum.
[00:29:10] I'm just really interested in her and maybe it's because we don't have feeds and she's
[00:29:16] like the underdog person for me right now that I'm like, what's she doing?
[00:29:20] But I think her positioning is really interesting right now to me at least.
[00:29:24] Yeah, very dynamic for sure.
[00:29:28] For better or worse, her strategy coming into the game was I'm going to work with the women
[00:29:32] like Ryder, Die, Heller, Highwater if I go down with the ship, I go down with the ship
[00:29:38] and that has been her strategy and it has kind of worked for her in the sense that the
[00:29:43] women are protecting her.
[00:29:45] It's also kind of not working for her because the women are only protecting her because
[00:29:50] they see her as like a blunt instrument they can use to weaponize and throw away when
[00:29:56] they need to.
[00:29:57] But so far, she's been kind of squeaking by through their protection.
[00:30:01] But that's what I'm saying about her though, like right now, she's the blunt instrument
[00:30:06] but if these things are brewing between the directors then like there, she's the type
[00:30:11] of player that like if there is a civil war going on, she can squeak by a little bit
[00:30:17] and get into like a final six final five position.
[00:30:20] I don't know.
[00:30:21] I see her sort of like a JC Lynn type.
[00:30:23] I would want that to happen.
[00:30:27] I would want that to happen.
[00:30:29] My issue with that like potentially happening is that I don't know that she's the kind
[00:30:34] of player that like slides in.
[00:30:35] I think that she's always the like the reason why like things blowing up in a civil
[00:30:40] war occurring can help like third party players because third party players can then play
[00:30:46] both sides while the two sides war whereas I feel like if things blow up, Bailey will jump
[00:30:52] into the front lines of one of the sides and still be a big target.
[00:30:57] Sure.
[00:30:58] Okay.
[00:30:59] When you say it like that is her personality.
[00:31:01] It's like why is like now a TV only watcher?
[00:31:04] I'm like so into her.
[00:31:06] You know she's not that type of personality.
[00:31:09] I mean, I'd like the fact that she is not afraid to stick it to Anthony.
[00:31:13] I think that that is like in a house full of people that are just like who would piss
[00:31:18] him off?
[00:31:19] Like she is just like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, honey, honey, honey, no, like
[00:31:23] I love that.
[00:31:24] I love that and is it like the best for her game all the time?
[00:31:30] No, some of the time.
[00:31:31] Yeah.
[00:31:32] God.
[00:31:33] She's just really, she just really feels like she's really being herself.
[00:31:37] Like she and I think that's what makes her such a dynamic TV character.
[00:31:41] Like maybe not the greatest big brother player, but like I think that I'm really enjoying
[00:31:45] watching her because like she just can't help herself in a lot of it.
[00:31:49] And she is trying to play as optimally as she can, but she like is also, she just like
[00:31:53] has to be true to herself in that way.
[00:31:56] You know what I mean?
[00:31:57] She's just playing from like this position of like all of these things happen to me and
[00:32:02] it is not fair.
[00:32:04] Therefore I need to be the one that is constantly clawing my way to the top where like in
[00:32:09] it, whenever a player is in that kind of position, I feel like their inhibitions are slightly
[00:32:13] lowered a lot of the time.
[00:32:14] So they are much more able to just be like, throw caution to the wind.
[00:32:19] So it's kind of interesting in this episode in particular to see her sort of like switch
[00:32:22] spots with Kayla during that home yard because like, oh so now everyone's telling you're
[00:32:28] telling her to calm down when that was you last week.
[00:32:31] So it's just like I she's very much dynamic character this season and I do appreciate that
[00:32:37] very much about her.
[00:32:38] Me too, me too.
[00:32:39] I like really if she goes next week or the week after like I'm really going to miss
[00:32:43] her presence on the show genuinely.
[00:32:46] Mm hmm.
[00:32:47] For sure.
[00:32:48] Yes.
[00:32:49] So really I honestly was expecting something a little more dramatic at the end of this
[00:32:52] episode because it's not that often that the plan changes at the last minute but in
[00:32:58] the plan was to use this video and then like day of Lexus backed out.
[00:33:06] And you know, I was expecting a little more of that dramatics but don't worry, you know
[00:33:13] we'll get into spoiler soon.
[00:33:15] Dramatics are yet to come hopefully now that I'm realizing it will probably be packed
[00:33:20] up so tomorrow with the executive veto in play.
[00:33:25] Do we have to do skip the dishes too?
[00:33:28] Maybe.
[00:33:29] Can't forget about that.
[00:33:32] Yes, but the veto is not used tola and Todd get locked in on the block and there's a
[00:33:39] lot to talk about in terms of where this could go.
[00:33:42] What are the ramifications of the veto not being used?
[00:33:47] Is there another is there a civil war about to break out between Anthony side and spicy
[00:33:52] side in terms of who they want to go because spicy really wants to hold it to go and Anthony
[00:33:58] would for Todd to go.
[00:33:59] So that's kind of where we leave off in terms of events in the episode though we did see
[00:34:06] at the end there a little preview now when Arissa said last week that the executive veto
[00:34:13] was going to come into play next Wednesday.
[00:34:15] I was like, okay so probably for the following week right like they're probably going to introduce
[00:34:20] it on Wednesday.
[00:34:21] Tell us what the power is and then have us vote on who we want to give it to even though
[00:34:26] we have no idea who we should give it to because we don't know the events of the week yet
[00:34:30] and so on and so forth.
[00:34:31] However, there seems to be an implication in this episode that the executive veto is
[00:34:38] in play for this week and that somebody may or may not get it and then use it tomorrow
[00:34:47] night.
[00:34:50] I can tell you that despite the fact that the latest digital daily is labeled April
[00:34:55] 1st, there was actually zero content from April 1st in that digital daily drop.
[00:35:01] So we have not seen the day in which tolla wakes up and finds the executive veto missing
[00:35:06] so we have no idea and quite honestly I don't even know where to begin to speculate.
[00:35:14] I personally am still of the opinion that it's not going to come into play this week.
[00:35:19] I feel like it's just a bait and switch which big brother Canada has pruned to.
[00:35:25] So I'm that's what I'm rolling with because I just feel like it's just oh you know tolla
[00:35:32] could save himself no you're going home, you're going home.
[00:35:35] So we'll see I think it's a lot to turn around.
[00:35:39] I mean it is interesting as you said that there was no April 1st content maybe it's
[00:35:44] just a one big ass April Fool's joke from the editors of Big Brother Canada so we'll see
[00:35:49] I mean they label these days these daily's like a buy a date and then
[00:35:56] usually we'll have like like as like 20 minutes of content from that day.
[00:36:01] Like it's like they're not very accurate in that sense.
[00:36:05] So who knows who knows with any of it but yeah the thing for me is when I say where do we
[00:36:15] begin to speculate it's does it even come into play this week we don't know is somebody
[00:36:20] going to get it or is it going to be just a looming power we don't know who gets it if somebody
[00:36:27] gets it we don't know what does it do if somebody gets it we don't know what does it do if somebody
[00:36:33] doesn't get it and it's just a looming power we don't know.
[00:36:36] What kind of impact will it have on the week will it save somebody we don't know we don't
[00:36:41] know who's going to be saved yet at this point if there is going to be a saving.
[00:36:46] I mean I guess like if I had to speculate about what an executive video would do it would just
[00:36:51] be like whoever if I don't know like if a nominee wins the video they also get to choose
[00:36:58] the replacement nominee they get like executive power over the HOH maybe but then that kind of
[00:37:04] but they've already done that and it's also kind of like silly because then what if the HOH
[00:37:09] but then they don't win the I don't know it's weird.
[00:37:11] It's I would imagine it's something more into the blood veto because that never actually did
[00:37:20] anything so it probably has something to do with votes would be my guess but it's again it's
[00:37:28] just like who knows and and even if it did have something to do with votes we don't know what impact
[00:37:33] that would have who gets it what votes it does it change the nominees there's so many different
[00:37:39] like potential out of secret veto where it's like not revealed until after the votes for bread.
[00:37:47] I mean clearly clearly it should it will be public like anybody could have found it missing
[00:37:53] so I think they're all going to be like oh it's it's missing then we're going to have to go on some
[00:37:56] kind of quest or challenge to figure out who gets it but it's again it's who knows so we don't know
[00:38:06] we certainly don't it's one of those things where it's like you want there to be possibility
[00:38:11] but when there's too much possibility it's just like well I guess
[00:38:16] there's nothing really to even talk about that yeah there's too much too much
[00:38:21] so that's about the episode anything else from the episode that we should talk about before
[00:38:26] we dip into some of the drops not for me all right well let's do it then let's talk a little bit of
[00:38:39] the office of civil defense has issued the following message this is a spoiler warning
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[00:38:50] action should be taken all right so this is what happened after the veto ceremony lexas has a
[00:39:03] conversation with goose and goose is like so what's up why did you decide not to use the veto
[00:39:11] kind of plan to use it and lexas says well I had a conversation with Bailey and she was questioning
[00:39:19] me about why I was trying to like pitch her to go on the block and then she mentioned that there
[00:39:23] was some sort of plan back dorm mat and that you know in all this stuff information that Bailey
[00:39:31] should not know that not only should Bailey not know but she shouldn't be comfortable telling lexas
[00:39:37] and how would Bailey know any of this because goose did not co-sign Bailey knowing he only was talking
[00:39:42] the spicy Avery and Kayla about and so the fact that Bailey not only knows but is
[00:39:49] Helen lexas and now he's getting in trouble for talking about this stuff with lexas
[00:39:54] goose immediately is like what the flip are you serious are you kidding me they set me up
[00:40:03] they set me up I can't believe this and he says lexas how does how does Bailey know that she's
[00:40:10] not in the alliance why are they protecting Bailey so much it I can't believe I fell for it
[00:40:16] this whole time there is a reason Kayla didn't use the veto on me there is a reason that I got
[00:40:20] used as upon when when spicy was the H.O.H. Lexus let me tell you spicy and Kayla were pitching for
[00:40:26] Matt to go on the block spicy told me that she was going to nominate you and Matt next week
[00:40:32] and this is dramatic it was dramatic and he's in he's freaking out and he's like I can't
[00:40:38] flip and believe this I've been played this whole time they set me up they're working with Bailey
[00:40:44] and he takes his hat off and he throws it on the couch and he says sorry hat you didn't deserve
[00:40:49] that and he puts it back on his head and he says I can't flip and believe this
[00:40:53] and while this is happening you like you're like oh wow he's revealing so much information to
[00:41:00] lexas this is why what is lexas his response lexas response is okay sure right yeah I mean
[00:41:09] I just wanted to make sure that you knew that you know because I had that conversation with Bailey
[00:41:15] so and and goose is like I'm flipping out right now I can't believe they played me for a full lexas
[00:41:21] I think they've been pitting me against Matt this whole time she's like
[00:41:26] right
[00:41:29] that is lexas is going lexas okay that that lexas is in neutral baby like it's not
[00:41:35] it's not going nowhere it's really not
[00:41:40] that was a really good of mine
[00:41:42] so so it gets even messier because lexas goes downstairs and tells Matt the entire conversation
[00:41:52] before Matt has a chance to talk to goose himself and before he goes up to talk to goose while
[00:41:57] goose is throwing his hat around Matt goes straight to spicy and says yes what goose just told lexas
[00:42:04] he told lexas that you've been trying to pitch me and her that you want to nominate us next
[00:42:09] week obviously I don't believe it but yeah goose is saying all this stuff and and spicy is just like
[00:42:19] what that's okay that's wild hold on before you continue Tara so like remind me what
[00:42:24] remind us rather what was the nature of the conversation between Matt and goose concerning
[00:42:31] Avery and Kayla and and Vic because that happened before this right yeah that that was an episode
[00:42:37] and so he was hinting to goose yes that Avery and Kayla and Vic were not trustworthy
[00:42:49] correctly saying like hey we're in an alliance of seven
[00:42:53] mm-hmm it should be you me lexas and and and Anthony okay as a four against their three those
[00:43:04] three are super tight they they're trying to get you out last week uh they didn't use the
[00:43:10] veto on you they used to pawn like okay so on and so forth okay and then he ratted that out to Kayla
[00:43:17] got it okay continue sorry yes so um now it's it's important to know I think the reason Matt
[00:43:25] goes to spicy is that he is not saying we can't trust fights uh to to goose because he actually
[00:43:32] does trust spicy because Anthony is telling him to trust spicy Anthony is looking out for spicy so
[00:43:39] Matt is concerned about Kayla primarily and and and and Avery um okay and so he goes to spicy like hey
[00:43:47] can you believe what they're saying to me uh can I sorry can I just one clarify a question
[00:43:52] so hot chocolate is done no okay as of right now no but we'll see at the end of the week
[00:44:00] okay um it's lukewarm chocolate okay because I was like you're naming everybody in a hot chocolate
[00:44:06] and they're all fighting so they are all fighting but they are all still the power lines yes
[00:44:14] um yeah yeah yeah so Matt goes up to talk to goose and goose gives Matt the same spiel
[00:44:21] I can't lip and believe it Matt they've been trying to convince me to be against you this whole time
[00:44:28] and like week two when spicy was hoh she told me that you were the one that wanted me to go on the
[00:44:33] block is upon and then the next week I thought you were wanting me to go up as upon again because of
[00:44:38] that and then this week they're telling me that you are saying things about uh that you would put
[00:44:43] me in thought on the block that doesn't even make sense why do I even believe that uh and
[00:44:49] Matt is like right yeah no yeah that's yeah I just wanted to talk to you about because I just heard
[00:44:56] that you like felt like I left you out of some things and I don't want you to feel that way he's
[00:45:00] like yeah no that's not it's like beside the point at this point Matt they want you out spicy told me
[00:45:06] that she's gonna target you and he's like right yeah uh same thing same thing is like uh Matt
[00:45:15] goes back downstairs and and he he goes and he talks to spicy again he's like spicy calm down it's
[00:45:20] gonna be okay you don't believe it it's gonna be fine don't freak out and spicy is freaking out
[00:45:28] what is he doing right now I can't believe he's saying all these things about me uh and then
[00:45:33] she's like should I go and talk to him should I go and talk to him he's like no no no no
[00:45:37] I want to go talk to him she opens the door she's like hey ghost and he's like hey I'm just busy
[00:45:41] right now I wanted to talk to Anthony she's like well what's going on ghost what the f**k is going on
[00:45:46] goose uh and he's like no I just want to talk to Anthony okay I just want to talk to him
[00:45:50] soft going um so she leaves and she's like he wants to talk to you Anthony why does he want to talk to
[00:45:54] you Anthony Anthony Anthony fix this for me please Anthony Anthony please and so Anthony goes in
[00:46:02] and goose gives the same spiel Anthony I can't believe their flippantronic admits me to go against
[00:46:07] you and Matt and Anthony finally finally somebody understands how to respond to this he's like
[00:46:14] yes goose thank you I knew it this is what I've been trying to say you know what I mean uh and like
[00:46:21] now we know now we know we're gonna keep this in our back pocket um and he gives goose some advice
[00:46:27] this is how you should proceed moving forward play dumb you're like oh man I just got in over my head
[00:46:33] I don't know what happened I'm sorry uh and and so on and so forth and that's how goose proceeds
[00:46:39] for the rest of the drops is that he's that's basically lined for line what he says again Anthony
[00:46:44] mouth um and so uh so he so Anthony is like calm down don't worry about it just don't say anything
[00:46:52] to anybody Anthony doesn't quite know at this point that like it's fully blown um and so uh so
[00:46:59] this is how this is basically the story of how the women lost like um completely unforced error
[00:47:08] he was so loyal to them he even named a new sub alliance within the directors with them with
[00:47:14] spicy aviary and Kayla he called them the union um because uh you know it was keeping in in theme um
[00:47:23] and and now they're like now he's gonna rat out the union he made it in the first place uh
[00:47:28] and and it's and it's just it's just a whole mess a whole mess of a situation um and and it's
[00:47:34] again just like none of this should have happened none of this needed to happen
[00:47:39] the women have like spicy has this is the thing she has the advantage she always has had the
[00:47:45] advantage she actively alienates her own numbers with with the things that she's doing there was no
[00:47:51] need for any of this why do you think she alienates them like that like why if you we did at least
[00:47:59] watch her first season on feeds like we do have a big like why do you think she does that outside of
[00:48:05] just like I don't think she can't be bored I think I think that she just very very actively plays the
[00:48:13] middle way too hard um and so like like she just doesn't have to do half of what she's doing exactly
[00:48:21] she leans in so hard that she's like putting herself into a difficult position like if if
[00:48:28] playing the middle is holding Anthony's hand over here and Bailey's hand over here uh what spicy
[00:48:36] is doing instead of being like hey guys come here come here and getting them as close to her as
[00:48:40] possible and as close to each other as possible while maintaining her position in the middle what
[00:48:45] spicy does is Anthony run Bailey's coming for you Bailey run Anthony's coming for you and then they
[00:48:53] run out and she's trying to hold onto both sides now and it's like oh my god this is so
[00:48:57] difficult why are they doing this to me that's such a good way of putting it okay
[00:49:07] no I follow now I follow much more than I was before because I was like why I don't but that makes
[00:49:14] that makes sense that the optimal strategy is to you keep inside all of the dirt and drop little hints
[00:49:20] when you need when when you need the power to shift yes and you need you do need to maintain
[00:49:26] some separation you don't want to get them so close that they start holding each other's hand
[00:49:31] but uh but you don't want them so diametrically opposed that you are now finding yourself
[00:49:38] you know in this really difficult spot um and then like on top of that she's like uh like
[00:49:44] you know many other of course it's a very simplified way of putting it but um but this is this is
[00:49:50] the position that they found themselves in and the norms now have now stayed the same spicy really
[00:49:55] wants Todd to stay uh Anthony really wants to love to stay um he's basically Todd already pitched
[00:50:03] to Anthony and Anthony's already given Todd his whole like sorry bro you said my name so
[00:50:11] what can we do Donna told me Dennis told me uh and Todd's like no I but I didn't
[00:50:20] and he's like really really that I heard it from multiple sources and you didn't you didn't even do
[00:50:27] it really um but in the meantime spicy is is fighting hard um she's she's at the very last thing we saw
[00:50:36] in the drops was her pitching to Avery like hey you need to be on board with me on this we need
[00:50:41] Todd to stay um and Avery was like maybe um like they're not really that far on board uh
[00:50:53] but she's willing to hear taught out she's willing to hear spicy out um and this is what it comes
[00:50:58] down to assuming the executive veto doesn't change all of this uh it comes down to potentially a
[00:51:03] four on four i vote it's spicy Avery Lexa spicy Avery Kayla and um Bailey or votes against Anthony
[00:51:15] Vivek Matt and Lexus or votes um which would mean goose is the tiebreaker now this is where this is
[00:51:24] what I referred to at the beginning of this podcast whereas like the whole time people are like man
[00:51:29] it's gonna be Todd he's gonna go and I was like how because spicy has goose the tie can be broken
[00:51:38] in favor of Todd and he wants Todd to stay actively and he wants to pull it to go actively how could
[00:51:46] they possibly lose oh what the flip what the flip and the flip hmm now it's not quite that simple though
[00:51:57] because despite the the riff the newfound rift uh between um uh goose and the women he has even after all
[00:52:07] that promised uh Todd that he would break the tie in his favor if it went that way um I don't know why
[00:52:18] because it doesn't make any sense from his perspective to be like I'm actively targeting Bailey
[00:52:24] I just got played by all these women but I'm gonna break the tie in favor of the women and Todd
[00:52:30] Bailey's closest ally why would that be the case because he just wants to be in good with the women
[00:52:36] I think that he just feels like oh I think that he was properly gasped like into believing that it
[00:52:41] was all of his fault and now he's like I need to salvage my relationship with these women
[00:52:47] but he doesn't want he's he's telling Todd don't tell anybody I'm gonna do this
[00:52:54] my favorite thing is when like even we obviously don't have all the information now but like it does
[00:53:03] seem like this perhaps defies logic why he would do this and my favorite thing is whenever
[00:53:10] Karen has to relay that to everybody and be like don't know why uh moving on uh just
[00:53:17] nope there's there's no sense to be made uh in the move and I don't even know his own justification
[00:53:24] because we haven't seen it uh so yeah um and and it's the kind of thing too where it's like
[00:53:30] because it makes so little sense given the newfound situation it it feels like even if he
[00:53:36] means it right now which he might not he might be lying uh it's probably something that Anthony
[00:53:43] would be able to be like hey this doesn't make any sense why would you do this and he would
[00:53:48] probably change his mind but who knows at this point also right right well that's so he was
[00:53:55] saying Todd don't tell anybody until a specific point in time in which we can finally tell everybody
[00:54:01] and Todd was saying I don't want anybody to know ever because I don't want Anthony to talk you out
[00:54:07] essentially uh huh um so who knows but with with the executive video coming to play there's a
[00:54:15] halfway decent chance that none of this matters at all um and and who knows I would imagine that
[00:54:22] the second this I imagine this is what happens all it starts looking eventually they find out
[00:54:27] the executive videos are not there the second that happens the infighting stops because why would
[00:54:33] you continue to infight needlessly when this might not even matter um and it all it all comes
[00:54:39] and now all the discussion turns to where is the executive veto who has it so on and so forth uh
[00:54:45] and trying to figure that out um and so you know I think that like all of this momentum in this
[00:54:52] current direction it just it might be abruptly diverted into a different direction see well we
[00:54:59] have we seen any conversations between goose and matte and lexas as of the latest daily jocals I
[00:55:10] don't I don't think that we have about the initial one about whether or not we want they want
[00:55:17] Todd or tolla to go because in my mind if goose is like believing the uh
[00:55:24] uh the directors to still be somewhat cohesive then I think that he would believe that okay we'll
[00:55:35] have avery kela and vick are all okay with Todd staying then why wouldn't the same be for matte
[00:55:43] and lexas maybe Anthony not right now but if the majority is swinging in this way
[00:55:49] then it makes much more sense for me to then just go ahead and be like okay Todd
[00:55:53] I'd rather you stay as opposed to tolla but I just uh
[00:56:07] unfortunately even though we got 12 hours of drops like there's still so much
[00:56:11] remissing in terms of where goose currently sits I would imagine that we're going to be getting
[00:56:18] a minuscule amount of information about how the eviction is going to play out tomorrow because
[00:56:24] they want to keep us in the dark um so who really knows at this point um the answers uh will
[00:56:32] I assume be given to us in some piece of meal form on Thursdays drop uh after the eviction
[00:56:41] and all the stuff happens my fear though is that that whole scene I played out for you uh is like
[00:56:48] cut short because they need to fit in the executive veto and the sponsor and the vote uh and
[00:56:55] all of that stuff in this next episode um but uh who knows i mean listen it was it was entertaining
[00:57:02] watch goose flip out yeah sounds like it yeah so i back on for us interesting
[00:57:12] okay
[00:57:14] can't wait to see what tomorrow brings
[00:57:17] yeah i mean we certainly will see it so trying to remain positive you guys
[00:57:27] um all right anything else we should talk about before you wrap up here
[00:57:33] um i mean i'm i am glad that this week just it did sort of like leave a lot more intrigue than
[00:57:41] we initially thought um i did think that it was going to be a pretty straightforward week of uh
[00:57:47] you know baili was probably going to end up you know as the replacement nominee now whether or not
[00:57:53] she was ultimately going to be back there there's still like a lot of conversation about that the
[00:57:58] way that things have been going and probably seem like that would have been the case um but now that
[00:58:04] lexus and Matt have been sort of like clued in on just how much they could be on the outs with
[00:58:11] the rest of the directors um yeah now we're in this position where everyone's a little gun shy
[00:58:18] because we're trying to save their pieces and how that translates and trickles all the way on up
[00:58:24] to anthony and vick is very interesting so now where this is a very pivotal moment
[00:58:33] for the both of those players so i do wonder just how that is going to pan out um so yeah i'm
[00:58:40] i'm very uh i'm a low nervous i'm nervous for how this can how this works out no i know and you
[00:58:49] know that's like part of it too the end of this you know kind of everybody all three of us for like
[00:58:56] and there will be an episode tomorrow and i this season is but good so far though like
[00:59:03] it's interesting and that's why it's like a bummer that we don't have the feeds because i bet if
[00:59:07] we had feeds this would be like really interesting there'll be a lot of stuff to talk about um things
[00:59:12] are fluid but also very messy and vian anthony have a strangle hold on the game like this is not
[00:59:21] you know bb 19 right now completely i know the first couple of weeks kind of we're looking
[00:59:27] like that pattern but right now what we've talked about is like movement and even a man is saying he's
[00:59:33] nervous about how it's gonna work out like there's skin in the game we have some you know we're
[00:59:37] rooting for certain people so i'm hoping that like the next week also that keeps this momentum
[00:59:44] rolling and things continue to be leaky and messy and you know not super solid um
[00:59:52] yeah that's all and more content yeah well that's what we have for you then today uh thank you
[01:00:01] everyone for joining us uh hopefully you enjoyed the the podcast the discussion here tonight
[01:00:08] we will be back tomorrow night to talk through whatever we're gonna get tomorrow night uh so stay
[01:00:15] tuned for that i will be live on twitch watching survivor and then and then the episode will be
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[01:00:26] we'll talk it through and then on uh thursday i'll you know probably talk to the evicted player
[01:00:34] and ask them who they think is gonna win especially if it's hola oh god
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