BB27 Roundtable Week 1

[00:00:14] Hello everyone and welcome to RHAP We Know Scripted TV. I'm your host Aaron Armstrong and we are here today for the podcast where we talk about everything from the feeds. It's the Roundtable podcast for Big Brother 27 where we rate the players from one to ten based on how well we think they are doing in the game. We talk about everything going on on the live feeds and everything in between as well if there's anything in between live feeds that's happening.

[00:00:42] With me to talk about everything that is going on in this house, it's of course Melissa Denny. How are you doing Melissa? I'm doing great. I'm very excited to be back talking about live feeds. It was so exciting to have the live feeds on again. It's just been so long. So I had a lot of fun and these house guests certainly did not make it boring. So yeah, it was a great night.

[00:01:07] Yes, it is also a chance. Did I say we know scripted TV? I'm quite used to saying that. I don't even I literally didn't even clock what you said. The RHAP account in the chat said we know reality and scripted TV. So I might have said reality. I might have said scripted, but either way, I am still I'm in the middle of a 24 hour live stream. So I'm quite out of it and tired. I apologize for any incorrect

[00:01:37] pieces of speech. But also with me today. Somebody who joined me for a bit on the stream today was Pooja. How are you doing Pooja? I'm doing good, Taryn. You already know not a lot of sleep, but a whole lot of fun. It's been very fun to have these last 24 hours. And it's only the beginning. And for today, it's the beginning of the stock watch too. So it's a good time. It's a good time. Thank you for having me.

[00:02:01] Yes. We weren't even sure if we're going to do a stock watch this early, considering the fact that the feeds will have been up for less than 24 hours when we do this podcast or when we were planning to do this podcast. And that I will have I would have just done a live feed update just a few hours earlier. And all of those things are true. But I think it was a good thing we decided to go through with it anyway, because there's plenty to talk about with this wild house and situation.

[00:02:27] There's already some things to update on from this morning. So we will talk about those things. We will also, of course, be rating the players based on how well we think they're doing. I also had the audience submit ratings for the players as well to get their thoughts on how well these people are doing, as well as some other survey questions that we can talk about. So we'll have some fun here on the roundtable.

[00:02:54] If you're new here, if this is your first roundtable podcast, we really we talk about the week as a whole with an extreme emphasis on the feeds. It's it's very different than a an episode recap where we're talking about the episode and then we talk a bit about the feeds. It's a purely feeds based discussion that incorporates everything that we've seen throughout the week.

[00:03:18] And and also, as we mentioned before, you know, really gets into the nitty gritty of individual strategy for each player. So let's jump into it. Let's talk about it, because I think that one of the first things to do, of course, is is is to give a basic explanation of where the house structure is.

[00:03:41] I would highly recommend checking out the live feed update from this morning if you want like the full on report with the pictures on the screen and the like where all the alliances are. But here we're going to give you the summary, which is that there is one main alliance, one main power alliance called the heavy hitters.

[00:04:04] And that alliance consists of Rachel Riley, Jimmy, Zach, Vince, Morgan and Riley. Not to be confused with Rachel Riley, but Riley, the bull rider. Bull rider, bull fighter, bull rider. He's a bull rider, right? He rides the bulls, not fights the bulls. Yes.

[00:04:33] Yes, I think so. And so this alliance is technically running things, but do not expect that to last because there's a lot going on, especially with the conflicting interests they have with the nominations, the current nominations and all of that. Before we get any deeper, though, that is the the sort of like very general outline.

[00:04:59] And Melissa, you've been you've been keeping track of things. What have been your thoughts so far on what you've seen in the live feeds? Well, it's been I it's a lot. I feel like it's a lot. And I don't quite feel like I have a sense of what's real because I feel like there's just a lot of conversations and a lot of people saying a lot to everybody.

[00:05:24] It does appear that Keanu is kind of like doing a bit too much. That's that's what I'm getting the vibe of. It's like he's a little too much. He's a little too like gamey all the time. And I think it seems like he's going to be an easy target coming up. That's what I'm getting from the house. And now it's possible that, like, you know, he's going to win HOH next week and everything will change or, you know, someone who he's aligned with will win HOH or whatever. But it just feels like he's doing too much too soon.

[00:05:53] And that usually is not good for them. Vince is not doing a great job as HOH. The fact that he put Kelly up is. I mean, shocking. So, yeah, I mean, it's it's a lot of gameplay. I don't know if it's good gameplay.

[00:06:12] I think at this point, the people who are kind of like hanging back and just kind of listening or having small conversations or like get to know you conversations are doing really well. I think like. Kat or Catherine, she went by Kat. And I thought I heard Kat at one point, but. Catherine, I feel like is doing a really good job as far as I can tell it. And Lauren, I think the two of them honestly are doing great.

[00:06:41] They're kind of hanging in the background, not really part of a lot of the big conversations, but it seems like they really know what they're doing. I hope I'm right on this. Like, I hope I'm not proven wrong, but it really does feel like they kind of like have a good vibe. And Rachel's doing a great job with her social game. I feel like that was my biggest concern with her was that she was just going to be Rachel.

[00:07:08] One point now from her first season, which didn't really click with most people aside from Brendan. And I feel like she's clicking with everybody. It seems like she's trying really trying to put herself out there and have these like real conversations with people. I always see her having these one on ones where they're not talking game necessarily. Like sometimes they do, but a lot of the times they're kind of just getting to know each other and she's really listening and she's like actively asking questions. Like, and it just seems. Everyone's saying my mic sounds like it's turned off or something. I'll fix it. I'll let you guys talk.

[00:07:41] I don't know. I don't want to just keep babbling if like no one can hear me. I can hear you fine. I don't know. You can look into it because I have seen some people in the chat mention the microphone. I think I fixed it. I think it was on the wrong. Okay, there you go. Anyway, that was my thoughts anyway. Those were the thoughts. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot happening.

[00:08:00] And I feel like we noticed this a lot in the early days where like the people we don't see as much of are the people we're almost the most hopeful for because they haven't yet disappointed us. And I feel like that's where I am with a lot of players in the house right now. Because a lot of players in the house have been very messy. Of course, we'll be talking a lot about Vince and his HOA train. But Puya, what have been your overall thoughts so far on the feeds?

[00:08:28] It's very interesting because typically by the time I get to talk to one of you in some formal capacity on a podcast, not counting a live feed update, we have a good tempo. We already we can let you feel the pulse of the house. You know, kind of where everyone is at. I feel like messy is truly the most operative word we can put out there. But I also think there's people who I think have been playing well, but then I'll hear comments about them that'll make me doubt if they're playing well. So it's a little bit tough to gauge still.

[00:08:57] But one thing is for certain, it's been absolutely entertaining. Like I've not been able to put anything down. I've had to put everything down to focus on. I mentioned to you earlier, Taren, I'm usually a two or three monitor activities at a time guy. I've been a one monitor guy for the last day and it's been amazing. Yeah, the 24 hour stream that I started when the feed started, I expected there to be a lot of downtime. That's usually what happens, especially in the first night of feeds. Granted, this is actually night six that we started on.

[00:09:28] But it's been nonstop. I mean, I've just been like streaming and commenting on the feeds basically nonstop, except for when the feeds went down for the veto. Because they don't stop. They don't stop talking. And there's been a lot to comment on. In particular, the HOH Vince. He did nominate, as you saw in the episode, very likely, or maybe you didn't. But he did nominate Ashley, seemingly at least based on the episode due to her time in the shower.

[00:09:57] And he also nominated Amy along with Zay. We have discovered that Ashley was, in fact, the target of Vince and of his alliance. Vince, at least many of them. However, Ashley went on to win the power of veto.

[00:10:21] And that means that she, of course, was planning to take herself off the block, which meant that Vince was going to have to nominate a replacement nominee. And Vince, we have discovered, does not enjoy Big Brother. Or anything involving Big Brother, including making any kind of decisions.

[00:10:47] And he has waffled around all night long, going back and forth, crying over the decision, and ultimately kept coming to the conclusion that he would need to nominate his ally, Kelly. Because he had no other option, except for the other, you know, like, 12 options. But other than those options, he had no other options. And so, he's crying about it.

[00:11:17] He's trying to justify it. He's initially accepting the fact that when he's initially made this decision, the entire house is letting him know, like, yeah, Kelly's leaving, if you put her up on the block. Just, you know, she's getting voted out. And he's like, yeah, I know. And it sucks. Um, he is eventually convinced by Jimmy that that's a bad idea. Jimmy's convincing him that because Jimmy would like for Keanu to go on the block because Keanu and Jimmy have a bit of a beef. This is important later on.

[00:11:45] Um, so, uh, Vince has been convinced it's a bad idea to send Kelly home. And so, of course, instead of nominating her, he chose to. Oh, sorry. He still is planning to nominate her, actually. Uh, just doesn't actually want her to go home when he nominates her. Um, so, uh, there was a bit of back and forth this morning as Keanu further went off the rails.

[00:12:15] Jimmy refused to hug him. He started accusing people of ratting him out to Jimmy, which is the only reason Jimmy would refuse to hug him. And then that caused, uh, Morgan to start crying. Um, and then, uh, a bunch of other people were starting to get pissed off like Riley about what Keanu was doing and saying. And this nearly flipped Vince back toward nominating Keanu, uh, again. However, it was Rachel and Morgan herself that came in at the last minute and said, do not do that.

[00:12:45] Put up Kelly. And so that's what happened at the veto ceremony today. Uh, Ashley took herself off the block and Kelly was her replacement. At the ceremony, Jimmy called out Keanu. They got into a fight. And then immediately afterwards, by the time the feeds came back on, they'd made up. And Keanu has now, according to what he's telling everybody in the house, including his allies, believes that Jimmy was never after him and that it was all a miscommunication.

[00:13:14] And now, oh, he has nobody to target anymore. Great. Yeah. So much so that he doesn't even want to win HOH. He's like, I don't have anybody now, so I don't even care. I don't even care to win it. So, yeah, you know what I said earlier? The pulse of the game is hard to figure it out. This is what I meant because legitimately in the last 12 hours, things have shifted all over the place. So, um, it's a lot. It's a lot, but, um, it's been fun. I will say one thing though.

[00:13:42] Let's, I want to also highlight this extra on Vince because yes, Vince feels like he has to put up his final two. However, at the same time, you have people who actively would like to vote her out. Also telling him you shouldn't do this. He's also being like, you know, just so you know, for your game, it's not good. If she's up there, I'm voting to get rid of her over saying Amy, but for your game, it's not good. And he's like, you know what? You're right. I should put her up. So. It just doesn't make any sense.

[00:14:10] I don't understand the logic part. I mean, I guess, I guess it stems from like, I want to do what the house wants me to do. Uh, like if that's the starting place is like, okay, it seems like the house isn't really vibing with Kelly. Like an easy person to put up would be Kelly because. You know, everyone else wants that. And if I don't, then like people will be pissed off. And so I'm just going to do it, even though I really like her where it's kind of like super early.

[00:14:39] And if I do what they want, maybe I can just be in an alliance with them and kind of get in with the rest of the house. But then you get it. It complicates it a bit because then people are telling him don't do that. So it's not like a house move. It's not like, oh, this will placate the house and I'll do this in order to just like get it off my desk. You know, it's not like that at all because they all are telling him don't do it. So now it doesn't make any sense. It's like, I think he's just like, well, I'm too far gone now. I have to just keep going with this.

[00:15:09] And he doesn't. He can turn around at any time. And yet he chooses to keep going. He is very, very worried about people being mad at him. It's been like the main thing that he's been talking about. And it has been wild and exhausting, quite frankly, to listen to. Just today after this, after the ceremony, Kelly's on the block talking about it. And she's all hyped up because, you know, we'll talk about Kelly.

[00:15:39] Vince starts crying again. You think, oh, because he feels guilty, right? Because he feels bad about putting Kelly on the block and putting her in this position. And he's crying. And then he explains. I'm just I'm just worried I'm going to look like an absolute idiot if you get voted out. I'm just going to look like a touch of fool.

[00:16:07] The act was putting her up on the block, not like when she gets voted out. It's that that ship has sailed. It's already happening. I mean, again, how many different ways do you need people to spell out? And you're lucky you're in a season where people are so willing to tell you honestly who they're looking to vote out, even if they're someone you like. Like, I'm looking to vote out Kelly. So, you know, the numbers are already iffy. So to crown that is wild.

[00:16:32] Also, Rachel was one of the main two people, like you said, who said, do not put up Keanu. Don't make this mistake, even though everybody else was like, yeah, Keanu is the right choice. And then afterwards, he's like negative about, you know, Rachel. I bet everyone's like wrestling. Rachel, blah, blah. I was like, OK, make up your mind. Man, when I picked this guy, I was like, he has a beanie. He's got facial hair and he's a fan of the show. Listen, he's the representation I will take here this season. Throwing it right back in my face, Darren.

[00:17:00] I don't want nothing to do with this. And it's only been a day. I'm so over it. Yeah. Rachel is now kind of his number one enemy because she is the defender of Amy. on the block and he really wants Amy to leave. He doesn't want Zay to go and he really doesn't want Kelly to go. And so Amy is his primary target. And with Rachel being her primary defender, that puts them at odds. Kelly is also not a fan of Rachel.

[00:17:25] And so this is potentially going to lead to some kind of war for who is who has the numbers to evict the other. And as of right now, that is completely undecided. There is no consensus at all yet where these votes are going to go. Vince has grabbed a couple of numbers. He has a couple of people willing to do what he or willing to at least say they're willing to do what he wants. Zach in particular really wants to go in that direction.

[00:17:54] I mentioned this this morning that Zach is very anti-floater and sees Amy as a floater and therefore has really been pushing hard for her to go. However, many of the women in the House would much prefer that Zay leave, though they feel they might not be able to get the votes for that. And certainly Rachel and anybody that she has influence over would love for Amy to stay.

[00:18:17] And so this is a recipe for maybe not disaster, but certainly conflict heading into the vote on Thursday. And there's tons of time for people to make plans for every iteration of how the block will play out. So that's pretty much the general overview of where we stand in the House right now. So there's a lot to to see in terms of where all of this goes.

[00:18:42] But I do want to talk through some of the the survey answers from this. Oh, yes. Stockwatch survey. We have our first player rankings for your favorite player, favorite player rankings of the season. I assume Rachel's first. Yeah, let's lock that one. Rachel is first. She's up there at the top. That is true. Who do we think is at the bottom?

[00:19:13] Oh, like 17th place. That's tough. I would have said Riley like preseason, but I actually think people are liking Riley now that the feeds have happened. I think that people are like liking his style of gameplay and like the way he's talking and stuff. But I so I don't think he's last. I feel like at best that all of that goodwill bumps into like 16th. Like, I don't think he's going. Oh, no, I don't think he's like number two or something. Yeah, I just don't. Maybe don't think he's last. I feel like.

[00:19:43] This is tough because this will get allow us to learn what people are thinking. Right. There are some couple of people that are playing poorly, but they're playing poorly differently. So it's like, do they don't like the he's everywhere Keanu or like the the randomness of a Kelly or Riley? You know what? I kind of feel like I want to be boring and go Riley here. Melissa, what do you want to split? Yeah, because like, yeah, I think you're right. I think it's tough because it's like, yeah, sure.

[00:20:11] Keanu is playing hard and Kelly is kind of wild. But to me and like same with Jimmy, Jimmy is kind of playing very hard. But I to me, that makes for like excitement. And so I don't like want them to leave and I don't like hate them. I don't wouldn't put them last on my list because they're bringing something to the table. Maybe somebody who. It could be somebody.

[00:20:38] See, I don't think it would be somebody who they they don't really know very well, like, for example, like Will or someone that you don't really see. Like, I don't think he would be last. I think he would just be like middling, maybe. Yes. But maybe people are frustrated with Vince. Because his H.O.H. is annoying and he's crying and sad and like he's. Just like wishy-washy. And I don't know, maybe. And people are being frustrated by the fact that he's just kind of.

[00:21:09] Not like making a good move, first of all, and also being wishy-washy about that bad move. I think maybe Vince. Vince is third to last. Oh, OK. Maybe it is Riley. Riley is last on the list. OK. He hasn't won the people over yet. I think that not enough people have been watching the feeds for 24 hours straight.

[00:21:37] And this is why Vince is not last. Yeah. Well, look how much messes Rain has given us. Do we give him the credit for that? I think the preconceived notions of like Riley from preseason have not been overridden yet. There's not been enough time on the feeds. I think that they will be to some degree.

[00:22:06] I don't think he is exactly what people were expecting. But it's not like he's like a paragon of virtue or anything like that. Like it's not like he's like the best guy ever. It's just like fine. Yeah. He's just been fine so far. And so I think it'll take just a little bit more time to overcome the initial impression that he gave in the preseason. There is one more person down at the bottom. But instead of revealing them right now, I want to go back up to the top.

[00:22:35] Who is in second place? Can I just say also that it's not just the preconceived stuff that we saw in the preseason. It's not the preseason. It was not his interview in the preseason or the fact that he's like a cowboy or whatever. That has nothing to do with like people's opinions being affected. It's like the accusations that were made against him. No, I know. But I'm just trying to clarify like for people that are thinking that we just have like bad vibes about cowboys. Oh, no, that's just Amon. Amon has that feeling.

[00:23:06] We don't have that. That's Amon's read on us. It's not like, oh, he's Southern. So we don't like him. No, it's the allegations. Allegations being made or that were made. That these are just to clear that up. As far as I'm aware, unconfirmed. But basically some posts like on Facebook of people sort of claiming to be people that have had his children.

[00:23:37] Yes, there are people that supposedly have had his children. And he has not. Infant mothers. And he has not participated in that life. They are disgruntled. Disgruntled people. Multiple disgruntled people. Disgruntled mothers of his children that are not fond of him. Yes. Alleged. Also an allegedly maybe. But allegedly likely. Also, though, I want it on record that I still did not like his preseason interview either.

[00:24:07] And that's why I rate him low as well. Well, I just think that the comment about it being like a PR, like just a PR statement the whole time. I'm just like, I love everyone. Like preemptive PR work. Even in the house, I feel like Melissa. You said they got that a little bit, right? Yeah, I feel like I don't. That's why, like, I cannot get a read on him because I can't figure out, like, what's legit and what's not. Like, I don't. I'm sorry, but I don't for a second believe that, like, it's just constant. I love everybody. And I just want everyone to do well.

[00:24:37] And I want everyone to win the game. And I'd be sad if somebody lost the game because I want everyone to win. Like, that sort of stuff to me, like, I don't believe that. So I want to see what he really is like. And I feel like we just need to. We just need to wait it out. And we'll see. He can stay last until we change our opinions, I guess. Exactly. All right. Well, back up to the top of the list. Who is in second place behind Rachel Riley? Mickey.

[00:25:07] Oh, I could. Yeah, I could see Mickey. I'm trying to think who else there is. I. Yeah, I. Mickey, probably. I mean. Well, I'm trying to do a Terrence said about the whole like, you know, some people may not have caught up with the feeds yet because why is Vince not last by that same logic? There's still people that are going to have opinions from the episodes, preseason, and then feeds. It's like a trifecta of opinions. Yeah. Good point.

[00:25:37] I would say. Yeah. So for me, it's Mickey or it's Morgan. That's kind of where I'm leaving. Yeah. I feel like people who've watched the feeds maybe aren't as high on Morgan. Maybe. So what's your guess? I think I think Mickey makes sense. Mickey. Is fourth. OK, we're off. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let's give ourselves some credit.

[00:26:06] We from second to fourth is only like one gap. So we did. We could do better. We're really good. We're doing really well. OK. Is it. What do you think about Jimmy, Melissa? Do you think Jimmy could be up there? I don't think so, because I think like people are happy that he's doing a lot. But I also feel like people are kind of like, OK, he thinks he's running this house and he's not. Maybe Catherine. I mean, I would put Catherine up high.

[00:26:35] I liked her conversations. I feel like she was smart about her conversations. I would put her up there, but I don't know. I feel like I didn't see enough of Catherine to justify second. I do agree with you what I've seen. I've liked, but enough to take second behind the Rachel Riley feels interesting to me. But I'm willing to roll with it. So let's roll with it. We're going Catherine here. Catherine. Is an eighth. OK, well, I don't know anybody. Getting colder.

[00:27:08] Great. Who could it be? I mean, I think now. Fourth, I could see Morgan's pilot right. One above or one below. So I don't think Morgan ends up being second there. Should we just roll with Jimmy? Is this the move? It looks like the chat is there. And if we're going by the chat, we're looking for trying to find their answer. Right. So maybe Morgan. Right. Morgan. Run it. All right. Audience says Morgan. The answer was.

[00:27:37] Morgan. All right. There we go. The audience said it and the audience picked it. And what's up? That makes sense. All right. That track. This has been fun. I'm enjoying this. Let's do one more. Maybe two more. We'll go. Who is the other person down at the bottom? Who is second to last? Oh, maybe Kelly. Those people are just like, why is she doing this?

[00:28:04] I think more of the Kelly negative would have happened if this happened in like four hours from now. I could see that. I don't think she's the second last. Maybe if you are frustrated with Keanu because they're just kind of annoyed. It could see. The thing is, but he's messy. I feel like I know. That's the thing is like you would like that potentially. He's messy and it doesn't seem like he's messy in like a mean way. It seems like he's messy. Just messy. Right. I think let's go Kelly.

[00:28:33] Let's go Kelly and see you get the get that. See where we go from there. Let's see Kelly. Kelly is correct. Kelly was second to last. Oh, there you go. Okay. All right. Okay. Surprising. All right. I mean, she nominated to go up on the block, so makes sense. Final quiz question. Who was third place behind Morgan? Lauren? Oh, Ashley. Ashley?

[00:29:00] I saw a lot of people being like really happy that Ashley got the veto. I think Ashley winning the veto is exactly what everyone wanted when the feeds were off. So we got that result. Lauren, I, you know, I've been on record to say I like what I see from her, but also she's been very quiet with the feeds opening so far still. I think we could go Ashley and see where we where that is. I think it's Ashley. Yeah.

[00:29:28] I hate to say it, Marcellus, but you should have chose Lauren. Oh, man. It was. Are you serious? Wow. Okay. We were so close. That's on me, Melissa. That's on me because you wanted to go Lauren. Hey, you know, it's okay. I like Lauren. I feel I mean, that makes sense to me. I feel like her and Catherine, from what I've seen, they both, you know, are doing good work.

[00:29:51] Remember also Lauren had a strong episode last night in the in the beginning of the episode is the one of the few like logic speakers. Yes. She was the best detective. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I feel like. Yeah, I've been impressed with them. I feel like. The first week, you really don't want to be seen that much. I think, you know, having conversations and things like that, that's always good. But I feel like if you're too far out there, that's always a bad sign.

[00:30:20] So I feel like I feel good about Lauren and Catherine's spot in the house. All right. So here's the full list. It's Rachel, Morgan, Lauren, Mickey, Ava, Ashley, Jimmy, Catherine, Amy, Adrian, Will, Zay, Keanu, Zach, Vince, Kelly, Riley.

[00:30:50] Zach's a lot lower than I anticipated. And that's coming from me who made the shock face when Melissa picked him that early. That's surprising. I feel like people had been liking him on the feeds, but maybe like Taryn said, people just haven't been watching that much. And so they're going off of also like just first impressions. Well, I think I think coming in with bad first impressions, having a little bit of turnaround on feeds, but then also then a bit of a dip on feeds as well. So it's like, oh, my God, I forgot about this.

[00:31:19] It's kind of an up and down there for Zach. And he started low. So wait, which is what's the down? Maybe I've missed it. His whole moral crusade against floaters and his definition of floater is Amy and. Oh, my God. I'm forgetting her name from last season. Angela. Oh, OK. Hmm. Well, that's wrong. Yeah. But OK. He like to the point where he's like, I can't even look them in the face. They do nothing.

[00:31:50] I always hate that when people are just like, oh, I'm the only real player in the house. It's like, no, other everyone else is playing, too. They're just playing different games. Mm hmm. You won one comp and spam Fortnite emotes. And here he is talking about the morality of floaters. That's like. Yeah, that's like that. The fact that they're calling themselves like the heavy hitters because they're like the only ones doing anything. It's like, come on. You don't know that. Yeah. The game just started. Yeah. And also, you guys shouldn't be doing so much. You're only four days in. Come on.

[00:32:19] I asked the audience to rate the episodes this week and the audience said that the episodes were a 7.3 out of 10 this week. OK. Pretty. I would give it higher. Pretty decent, I would say. Some weather is great. Especially for like a first week of episodes where like the premiere is not usually very well received, I would say.

[00:32:49] Mm hmm. Oh. Yeah. We've only had two episodes. Yeah. Yeah. Typically, I always tell people if they're going to recommend the show to friends, don't show them episode one. Like start later because episode one is a little bit of a shocker. But I thought both episodes were a lot of fun. Yeah. Hence my series of showing people the premiere episodes of Big Brother as their introduction to the show. So last season, season 26, the episodes in the first week were given a 5.9 by the audience. So definitely up.

[00:33:20] That's bad. Yeah. Because I'm assuming that's before we got the Matt, Matt, Matt of it all, right? Was that a part of it? I'm honestly not sure. I think we normally, the premiere was, yeah, you know what? That would have been the Wednesday episode, right? Because it would have been post nominations. But then you wouldn't have run the roundtable until after the Matt, Matt, Matt would have happened on feeds. Right.

[00:33:49] It was on feeds, but not on the episodes yet. Oh, yeah. That's reminding me that we had to watch the Ainsley episode twice because they did the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. Well, and... Oh, God. I forgot. An explanation. Yeah. And in response to that, perhaps, the feeds were given an 8.7 last season. Whereas this season a 7.5 so far.

[00:34:16] I mean, there's been less than 24 hours of feeds, to be fair. Yeah, true. We don't know. And last season did include Crazy Eyes, so... Okay, yeah, that's true. Good point. I'll give it to them. The season as a whole so far, given a 7.4 compared to last season's 7.9 in the first week. But again, there is a slightly different timing on these ratings.

[00:34:42] Angela's HOA train was rated a 4.9 out of 10. Vince's HOA train was rated a 2.6 out of 10. Is that true, though? I feel like it's like, is that actually... Like, do we really think that Vince is in, like, such a bad spot after this week? He definitely did worse than Angela.

[00:35:10] I mean, Angela actually managed to, like, nominate and target... She got her number one target. Like, a big player that was against her. I guess, yeah. Okay, good point. But, I mean... Did you have Kelly leaves? Yeah, if Kelly leaves. I mean, I feel like it's like, we don't know yet. But that's the thing, too, is that Angela did not nominate any of her allies. Okay, yeah, good point. She didn't even risk the idea of something like that happening.

[00:35:39] Is there a chance that Vince, like, doesn't actually think that Kelly is a good ally to him? Well, clearly, he called her a gnat that he needed to cage. Well, that's what I'm wondering, is that, like, maybe he just is totally oblivious to the idea that, like, she's actually an ally for him. And it's like, actually, she's kind of hindering my game. Like, if everyone's saying she needs to get out, like, why would I stick my neck out for somebody that I don't really... Exactly. The Ryan Ballantyne strategy. I don't know.

[00:36:09] I mean, look, I don't think it's a good move. I'm saying that. But I'm just wondering if... I'm trying to get in the perspective of his, like, of where he's coming from for this. Because it's like, it just otherwise doesn't make any sense. Well, he's telling you. He's telling you, I don't want people to be mad at me. And Kelly won't be mad at me. But then they're telling him that they don't care. But Keanu would be mad at him. Oh, you're saying that the person who gets nominated. I thought you meant the other people in the house. Like, wouldn't be mad because he's nominated. Well, that too. That's why he was somewhat open to potentially doing Keanu, is because he learned that nobody else would be mad.

[00:36:40] But he was still worried about Keanu himself being mad. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing is, like, look, I don't like making people mad either. I don't like it when people are mad at me. That's, yeah, I hate that. But if you're in Big Brother, like, you're gonna have to make people mad. Like, that's just what you expect. Like, you're gonna be HOH and everyone's just gonna be like, okay, like, I'll be the nominee and everything's happy. Like, you're gonna have to nominate people that don't want to be nominated. And you're just gonna have to do it.

[00:37:08] Like, it reminds me of, like, the Vanessa stuff where it's like, you have to have a reason. And then once you get that reason, you can, like, nominate people like scot-free. But I don't, I mean, just when she said to him, like, you can put me up. I won't be mad. It's like, okay, then I'll do it. And I don't know. It's just not good. Yeah. I did ask, did Vince choose the correct replacement nominee?

[00:37:38] Weirdly, 7% of you said yes. Who are these seven? I believe those are Vince's friends and family. Oh, God. Probably. Who do you want to be evicted this week? Between Kelly, Zay, and Amy. 50% said Kelly. 36% said Zay. 14% said Amy.

[00:38:08] I think Zay should go because when else are they going to get this sort of opportunity? And I think Kelly should stay because she makes people mad and she, like, unknowingly, like, says the wrong thing all the time. And I think it's, uh, I think it's more entertaining. If you're in a house where everyone's repetitively saying everyone loves Zay, but the other two have people who do not like them whatsoever. I'm sorry.

[00:38:36] The one who everyone loves should go because those are two people that could just get thrown right back up on the block next week. And then guess what? There's one spot and there's, like, 11 of us they have to pick from. That's not a bet. Those odds are good for you not to end up on the block. So, that makes the most sense. Granted, I feel like Kelly's done herself no favors by also them being, like, I'm going to call out Rachel. It's like, okay. Yeah, now everyone's like, you can go. It's okay. I'm going to throw the blockbuster competition. Oh, my God. Yeah. What are you doing?

[00:39:08] All right. One more thing before we get into the ratings. I wanted to talk about, because, um, obviously this has been, been, like, such a topic of conversation with, with Vince really kicking this conversation back up again. The issue of the first HOH. Yes. That a lot of people are like, man, last few years, first HOH has just completely flopped from Frenchie to Daniel to Riley to Angela.

[00:39:37] Um, it's been such a disaster. And now Vince, uh, like, what is going on with the first HOH? Is it really a good thing to win the first HOH anymore? Or is it a bad thing now? Um, and, uh, to me, the answer is still fairly simple. Um, listen to those names again. Mm-hmm.

[00:39:57] Frenchie, Daniel, Angela, uh, like, now Vince, um, these are people who, I, I don't think you would say the first HOH is the thing that screwed them over. Like, are these people that you think would have, like, won the game or done really well if not for being the first HOH? I don't think so. These were, you know, players who were likely to perform poorly who also won the first HOH.

[00:40:27] Um, and then when you look at Riley, obviously that was a situation where, uh, Sari was in the game and her son was a secret mole in the alliance that Riley created and so on and so forth. Uh, not to say that Riley played that HOH perfectly either. She was not a fan of the show and didn't really know how to handle the power, but, uh, was still, like, fine. Um, and now Vince.

[00:40:51] And, and I would argue that the issue with Vince is not that he's the first HOH, but that he doesn't want to be the first HOH. He does not want to use this power. Uh, he is so concerned about pissing people off and making them mad at him by nominating them that he is doing everything in his, uh, his power to burn the relationships he does have in order to preserve the ones that he doesn't. And, um, and so, you know, that is the situation we're in.

[00:41:21] And, and what I will say is despite all of that, what we are likely going to talk about when we rate him is, uh, whether this impacts his rating or not. He still has a bunch of people who are working with him because he's the first HOH and had the ability to pick and choose and have a bunch of people come and offer alliances to him.

[00:41:41] So even though he's making this colossal mistake and he's taking out probably the most loyal person to him in the game, if she ends up leaving, um, he is still like not being auto targeted the following week. Uh, whereas if this were say week six and he made this mistake or like he was McKenzie and he made this mistake, like this would be significantly more devastating. The fact that he's making this mistake as the first HOH, it gives him much more leeway to make the mistake and recover from it.

[00:42:11] Then almost any other time in the game because of the advantages it affords you. Um, and so, uh, I will continue to pound this drum until it is destroyed. Uh, go onto the show and recognize that winning the first HOH can be valuable if you are willing to actually, A, use the power and B, like, you're not Frenchy. Yeah.

[00:42:35] Well, especially because the first HOH is HOH for much longer than a week because they like move in and then they have extra days or whatever. Depending on the move in schedule. Yes. You generally have like more time as like in power, which gives you more of an opportunity to meet with people and things like that.

[00:42:55] I mean, the one thing is that like, it seems like Vince isn't really, I mean, he is a little bit, but he isn't really utilizing his HOH room to his advantage. And at one point it was like, Jimmy was holding court in the HOH room, like for a while. And it was like, the idea is that your HOH, you bring people up to your room to talk about you. It gives you, it gives you like this private area to talk with people.

[00:43:20] And instead he was just like out in the backyard, which I get like, you know, okay, be amongst the people and all that. But it's just like, you shouldn't let someone else utilize the HOH room as if they're HOH. Because like at points when I was watching, I started thinking like, oh yeah, Jimmy's HOH. And then I was like, wait, wait, no, Jimmy's not HOH because he was just like in the room acting like he was HOH. So, I mean, that's useful for you and he's not utilizing it. Yeah. I think there's a couple of things for me.

[00:43:50] One, based on his DRs, it was very clear that Vince wanted safety. He wanted safety. He didn't want to go home week one, so he wins it. I think everything you're talking about him not wanting power is true. If Vince only knew that had he not won, there was an opportunity to be a have not and take safety. I think this is his ideal scenario. He would have jumped for this, would have begged for this.

[00:44:11] I think the other thing is we are seeing, and not all of these HOHs that we've talked about in recent memory, but some of these early HOHs, the big fault is they make too many damn promises in the beginning. Right out the gate, Vince makes a very logical promise to the other three competitors and they do to him, which is there's only four of us competing. No matter who wins, let's just say we're all safe. That's good, right? That's good. You got safety now. That's three people you can't put up on the block. Good news is there's still 12 people. Now there's four people that are also safe because of the have not.

[00:44:41] Okay, seven people. You still have nine people you can pick from and you should be okay. There is no world you should be putting people up that you've made promises to because once you do that, now you've scrambled yourself. Now I feel like he's petrified of doing more, breaking more promises and what he should do about it, the damage control and everything. I think he got in his own head also. He overcooked and then I think he just that caused him to become way more passive than he should be on his week. I also to your point, Taren, he still does have allies.

[00:45:09] You know, you and I talked earlier about how no one's actively saying they're coming for Vince. So it's not a horrendous spot, but it is an awful way to start a season. This is like if you are playing a game of Mario Party and everyone else starts with 10 coins, you get 40 coins and a star to kick off. You should be in a better position than everyone else. But somehow he's acting like he also has 10 coins and now he's lost five of those coins also. Yeah.

[00:45:35] And worth noting that at this point in Frenchie's HOA train, nobody was talking about targeting him either. Right. It's, you know, it actually tends to happen fairly often. The first HOH is never mentioned as a target because they've never been available to be targeted. They've been the targeter. And so it doesn't even cross your mind that they can be targeted a lot of the time. And then once you find that they're sleeping downstairs and they're no longer untouchable, you start to go, oh, wait a minute. We could just target Vince.

[00:46:05] But we'll see about that. The other thing about making promises I think is very interesting is that like, I think that an early promise is less valuable to you than a late promise. And what I mean by that is like, if somebody comes up to you right after you win and says, hey, am I good? And you say, you're good. A hundred percent. Don't worry about it. I think in theory you go, oh, wow, that's amazing. That's the best case scenario.

[00:46:33] You're going to make that person feel so good and secure. And they're going to like be super appreciative. But the reality is, I think that a lot of the time when you get an easy, quick promise like that, you kind of just take it for granted. You're like, oh, I'm good. Great. Whereas if you and I'm not saying you should intentionally make people feel uncomfortable, but if you refrain from giving your word to too many people and giving out like, oh, you're you're definitely a hundred percent safe.

[00:47:04] If you instead, you know, are a little bit more aloof and you don't you're like, I'm not really sure what I'm going to do. Like, am I good? Yeah, you're good. Let's talk later. You know, like keep them in a little bit of suspense so that you're not over promising. And then you finally do let them know it's not going to be you. It's going to be this, whatever. They're going to they're going to feel that relief a lot more than that quick little ping of like me. No. Great.

[00:47:32] I think there's a lot of interesting stuff to to talk through there. But let's get into the player ratings because there's a lot of players to get to. And I think a lot of analysis can be done on an individual level here. This is, of course, the portion of the podcast. We are going to rate the players from one to ten based on how well we think they are doing in the game. The criteria can be basically whatever you want.

[00:47:56] For me, it tends to be some mixture of their current level of safety, their long term positioning. And like how I feel subjectively they have played this week. Do I agree with the moves that they made? Stuff like that. This is not supposed to be an objective rating.

[00:48:22] We are not like beholden to be supremely consistent. If we give one person a rating and another person another rating, that does not mean that we think they're equivalent players or whatever the case may be. We're just kind of winging this. Don't take it too seriously, please. It's all part of a fun game. So. Let's jump in. Of course, ten is the best. One is the worst.

[00:48:46] And here is the spreadsheets in dark mode. Oh, yay. I love it. It's kind of a forced dark mode, so it's not looking amazing, but. I'll take it. All right. So, of course, I'm going to give a rating. Melissa will give a rating. Pooja will give a rating. And the audience will give a rating for each player. The first of which in somewhat alphabetical order, because I am using nicknames here as well.

[00:49:18] Adrian, which is, I think, an easy, easy in to start here because we don't really know much about Adrian, I would say. I think he was actually just having a conversation in the have not room as we were talking. That is hopefully some of the most sort of game he's talked with some players that aren't Vince so far.

[00:49:40] I think that if you came in expecting preseason interview Adrian, you've been pleasantly surprised that he is, in fact, more of like the awkward, pretty likable guy in the house as opposed to the I'm the greatest player to ever step foot in this house kind of guy. That said, he's almost, I would say, a little too quiet and awkward at this point. Not involved in too many of the alliances or power structures.

[00:50:07] Was mentioned as a potential nominee at one point, but obviously was not eventually targeted. I think he's in a fine position right now. But there's not really, I think, a ton of reason to be super positive or super negative for Adrian. I want to reiterate also, we are making these ratings with less than 24 hours of feeds under our belt.

[00:50:32] And so these will be potentially wildly inaccurate and often I would imagine fairly neutral on players that we don't know much about. Adrian for me is one of those players. I would give him a five. Yeah, same here. We just don't know enough. I mean, so far it seems like people seem to like him, but it's hard to say. And the fact that he was considered as a nominee is like not great, but nothing to indicate that he's doing anything wrong at this point. So five.

[00:51:02] To me, he's honestly the quintessentially middle average player right now where I think there's a world where you rate him higher simply because of the fact that we thought he was going to come in and play the game. And quite frankly, Keanu is playing. He's not doing that. He's been low key. He's been easy. No one's really talking about him. So for me, five is like this is like the perfect middle to kick things off. So I think that, yeah, it's a neutral score for me. All right.

[00:51:32] And you'll never guess it. But the audience also gave Adrian a five. Wow. A five. So that's fives across the board. Easy entry into the stock watch ratings here. Just a quick neutral five. Not much to even analyze for Adrian because we really have not seen much of him on the feeds so far. However, we have seen plenty of Amy who is on the block post veto.

[00:51:57] And I would say at this point, a fairly likely target for the week. Her and Kelly, I believe at this point are in the most amount of danger. And I could very easily see Amy going home this week. Melissa, what are your thoughts on Amy? Yeah, I mean, I think I would probably give Amy like a three. I mean, it's tough because. Yes, she's on the block.

[00:52:27] And yes, I mean, according to the edit, we don't know exactly what happened, but it looks looks like she was put on the block because she cried and was very sad with Vince. And so I just feel like. I don't know how she will do if that's the way that she's going to play is just like very emotional and like sad and like, oh, well, put me up if you're I want to go home. There's no reason for me to be here if she's going to go home or whatever.

[00:52:57] That's not great. However, she does seem to have a really good ally in Rachel. Now, that could be good or bad because Rachel could become a target and it could be like, we'll get Amy out because we don't want Rachel to have any power. I don't know. But Rachel really is, you know, vouching for Amy and saying that she will vote to keep Amy in the house no matter who she's up against. So, I mean, I feel like that's good. But at this point, you know, it doesn't really matter if you have one person vouching for you. I mean, if the whole house is voting you out.

[00:53:27] So she's a three for me right now. Hopefully gets higher. I don't know. Had it not been so OK, let me let me speak on this. There's quite a few things actually with Amy. I think the virtue of being on the feeds more than Adrian means that your score has fluctuated a lot for me in the last day because there was a moment where Amy was very clearly the safest of three options. No matter who's sitting, who are the final two on the block of Amy's there with Kelly.

[00:53:56] Kelly goes if Amy's there with Zay, Zay goes. Now it's looking a lot more tough. I was feeling low on her. But then like I've seen her patch a couple of things up. Like I think her and Jimmy seem to be better. And I don't know. Jimmy's a bit of a faker. So maybe that was all fake. So we'll find out later. But I think having Rachel Riley as your number one that's going to bat for you is a huge asset to have. Without Amy there, I would probably look at three, maybe even a two if I feel a lot more like she's likely to go home.

[00:54:24] But with Rachel as in her corner, I'm feeling a lot higher on her, but I'm conflicted because coming into this, I was thinking for. But just the simple fact that she's a more she's moved up on the target list. I don't love that. And also hearing that, you know, some people are talking about Rachel a little bit. I don't love that either. Had those two things not happened, I would have been very firm in my four. But my instincts is telling me three. But I just do not think she's a three player currently. You know what?

[00:54:54] Variety is the spice of life. Let's be it a little different. I'll put a four for her. But I'll be honest. It's very much like a 3.5. That could be a 3.49 or a 3.51. I was debating between three or four, too. So that tracks. Well, the audience also seemed to be debating between three and four. But they did go, in fact, with a three. Four, Amy. I'm going to agree with the audience. I would have been inclined to go four.

[00:55:24] Oh, but not me, apparently. You're just agreeing with the audience. Sorry, you said you were like in between a three and a four. The audience, despite what I said, was a little more heavily leaning toward three, I think, than you seem to imply you were. Oh, OK. Yeah, sure, sure. So if you were like a 3.4, the audience was like a 3.35. So I definitely am more along the lines of the audience on this one.

[00:55:53] So, Amy, I would have been much more inclined to go with a four. Or I would say really like before the nomination or the veto ceremony, I should say. But there is a decision we will certainly be talking about, especially when we come to Rachel, where Rachel did push to prevent Keanu from going up on the block. If Keanu had gone up on the block, I would have felt a lot better about Rachel's position.

[00:56:20] Or sorry, about Amy's position and Rachel's position, quite frankly. And so the fact that it is now Kelly on the block and Vince really wants to keep Kelly and Zach and a lot of other bros really want to keep Zay leaves Rachel as Amy's sole defender in that power structure. And that is turning her into an enemy of theirs already.

[00:56:46] And that means that Rachel is really going to have to pull a lot of strings in order to keep Amy around. And that is going to be kind of difficult. I do think that there's a very good chance that they managed to swing the vote onto Kelly. But it's going to be a tough one. I really think it will be, at least based on where things stand right now. And so I think she's just too likely to actually leave to go much higher than a three for me.

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[00:58:18] The shower woman herself. Ashley. Huya. What are your thoughts? My thoughts are that I was very nervous for Ashley coming off of the episodes. Um, it wasn't looking good at all. And honestly, a little bit results oriented around about the head. Had she not won this veto, this score would be terribly low because she would have basically been the nominee most likely to like, she would have been the target. Um, but obviously if like, I think Zay was second.

[00:58:47] So if Zay had one pulled himself off, maybe we're again, that's a whole other scenario we'd be playing out. But I think Ashley is somebody who has, from what I've seen last 24 hours, had a huge come up. I think she's bouncing back. I think there's people she's working with. The only thing that's going against her right now is the fact that she's already been on the block once. And some of these people are talking about just throwing her back up there because she's already tasted the block. So it's an easy out to do when you have to put up three nominees.

[00:59:14] Um, so for a very different reason, I feel like, see, I don't think I'd give her a six. I don't think that I just don't. And part of this has to be the fact that I still also like, as she's one of the ones that I've not seen enough of, I think I'm going to give her a five because I do think there's a lot of at the runway for her to go up from here. All right. Well, the audience is also a bit lower on Ashley than you. The audience gave Ashley a four.

[00:59:42] Um, I could and I will say I'm again inclined to agree with the audience on this one. Um, I, despite not being able to see it on the feeds, we'll have to go as much as possible by what we saw in the edit. Well, I do not falter for trying to speak to the HOH. I do falter for taking a very long shower potentially and, uh, and a potential mishandling of the drama fallout afterward. Um, in addition to that, despite winning the veto, she is, as you mentioned, still being talked of as a target.

[01:00:12] Um, and, uh, the bad thing about that or target or at least a pawn. Um, and the bad thing about that is that if Amy does leave this week, that does put her in a much weaker position along with Rachel and the rest of her allies. Uh, if Amy stays, I think that Ashley's position improves, but if Amy goes, Ashley's position similarly falls. Uh, and so, uh, a four from me seems a bit appropriate.

[01:00:39] That said, I do agree with you in the sense that I do think that from what I've seen on the feeds, she's a perfectly fine and capable player. I haven't seen her make any kind of serious mistakes in the way that we saw her make, uh, in the episodes. And I think she's perfectly, uh, capable of doing well in the game. If she ever manages to find some serious footing. Yeah. Um, I'm going to give her a four as well, because like you guys both said, I mean, yes, she was in a bad spot.

[01:01:09] She won the veto, which is great. So I feel like it's like she started off four and she did win the veto, which does bump her up. But, um, I do feel like people are still going to be thinking about that. They're still going to be, um, that sort of easy, easy out of let's put her up. She, like, she had all those issues in the beginning. Remember that. Um, and also like Taryn said, I, the way that she dealt with the situation, um, it just

[01:01:36] felt like she didn't have that much self-awareness and it made me very nervous about how she might deal with this type of thing in the future. Um, and it's possible that all of this is just an edit because we didn't have the feeds at this point. So like, maybe it's just, they're making us feel this way. But if she handles conflict or confrontation, like in this sort of way, um, I am concerned about her moving forward.

[01:02:02] So, um, hopefully, I mean, she does seem to have a few people who she's like sort of talking with and working with, um, it seemed like Mickey maybe had her back. Um, and I, so I feel like she could find her spot in the house and maybe all this will be forgotten. Um, but you know, we're still in the first week, so anything can happen. Yeah. I feel like the one last thing I'll say about her is that I feel like the episode we saw last night was awful for her. Obviously I'm not even talking about the shower.

[01:02:32] I'm talking about the, the very clear rampant paranoia she had. And like that causing her to like come into the HHU a bunch of times. She's a different person on feeds. Now, obviously if I also won safety for the week, I'd be breathing a sigh of relief and being in my most relaxed state. A week one is known to be a very stressful time in the house. Her realizing that the walls are closing in on her because everyone's looking at her or throwing her name out. Couldn't have been an easy thing to stomach. So I do think there's hope for her yet to go further, to go higher.

[01:03:01] Um, but I also understand the four ratings. Hmm. All right. Well, let's talk then about Ava. Another person I would say that we have not seen much of, um, and the audience is, uh, a bit perplexed for what to do. They gave her a five, um, similar to their rating for Adrian. Now I will say I am considering going slightly higher for Ava.

[01:03:27] Um, I think I will refrain from doing so, uh, because I don't have enough actual concrete evidence that I should go higher. The reason I'd consider it is because every time I've heard anybody speak Ava's name, it is accompanied with, I love her. Um, and that's great. The problem is I haven't heard enough from her herself to know that she's actually even like playing the game. And, uh, is anything more than just a likable person in the house.

[01:03:55] So, uh, if I were to discover that she is somebody who's like really in it with some strategy and in, in, in the mix of things and making alliances and being in alliances and all of that stuff, uh, then I think this could easily convert to a higher number. But as of right now, I just haven't seen enough from her quite yet. So I will agree with five here for now. Yeah. Same, same on my end. I just haven't seen enough from what I've seen.

[01:04:21] It seems good, but it's, it's more what I've seen is more, uh, just personal stuff and like bonding things like that. And so from that perspective, it's, she's doing well, but yeah, I just haven't seen enough. So I, yeah, I wouldn't feel comfortable giving her anything else. Reminds me a little bit of like an early game Rubina where a lot of people were speaking highly of her. Like they really liked her, but we weren't sure yet if she was like going to actively play the game. Um, and, uh, and I, and I'm hopeful for Ava, but yeah, I'm not quite sure yet.

[01:04:52] Yeah. Again, Ava, somebody who had safety this week and seems to have used that safety for good by not really being negatively perceived by anybody being loved by everybody, but also somebody who, despite me having watched practically most of the feed since they've been on couldn't tell you who is she working the closest with or anything like that. I have none of that information out there. Um, it is funny because I feel like I've been one ahead, one rating up on all of you. So I kind of wanted, um, you know what? I'm just going to give her the six. Why not? Let's, let's, let's mess around.

[01:05:21] It doesn't impact anything. And also I do think that I will say of the four we've rated so far, Ava's one where you're getting on the ground floor at a five could be huge. If by next week she's in a group of like four people who are secure and is also safe or something like that. So there it is. We have. Wow. Another five. Another five on the board. Uh, all right. Let's move on then to will. And, uh, for fear of being a little repetitive, um, you know,

[01:05:53] I think there's promise in will. Um, the thing about will is that I've seen him be more active than Ava and Adrian in terms of like talking game with Mickey talking game with, uh, Keanu. Um, however, I've heard less positive things about him than somebody like Ava, uh, in particular, Rachel, Amy, and Ashley talked about him as somebody trying to play the middle who,

[01:06:19] was not somebody who was going to like be playing the game, uh, very aggressively. Um, and they kind of seem to be saying it in a somewhat negative way. Um, so, uh, I would say ultimately that does average back out to a five for me. Yeah. I mean, I I'm vacillating between a five and a six, same as with Ava, because I do hear a lot of good things about him.

[01:06:48] Um, but yeah, I just don't know enough. Um, and this is kind of like we said, this was going to be the theme of this, uh, this stock watch because we've only had 24 hours and just two episodes. It's very hard to know how these people are playing, who they're aligned with, what their deal is. Um, so yeah, at this point I would, I'm going to give will a five, but on that note, just saying that I do think that he has some potential there.

[01:07:15] It does seem like he's doing pretty well and he's kind of hanging in the background and no one really has anything bad to say about him. So, um, yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is a good place to be for a lot of the, these players in the game where like they're not super active. Typically in this spot, I would be giving them slightly lower standings. Um, just based on the fact that they're not included in the power structure, but they

[01:07:40] have some things going for them, particularly that the power structure is, uh, very cracked. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, captain will has been one of the cooler heads in the house. Um, someone who I feel like anytime I've seen anyone talk with them, they're grounded. And I think that's a great spot to be in. I could see the invitation start to pour in for him as far as getting recruited into one of these groups or even creating that group of his own that he's been looking to do, but

[01:08:10] also not heard a lot from, uh, personally. Like I think he's been, he's more active right now that I'm looking at this other monitor. He's like talking to Kelly, but I've not seen enough. So I feel like for me, that also leans to a five, sorry for all the fives, but it is day one of the feeds. The inevitability of choosing to do this podcast on, uh, the Monday after the feed start. Um, is that we were likely going to get a lot of fives. The audience does in fact agree as well with the five. So there it is. Wow.

[01:08:40] Another five. Funny thing is there's going to be quite a few people that are going to get fives, but then there's going to be people that are going to get like lower high because of the exposure they got on the feed that one day. We haven't gone there yet. Well, let's move on then to Zay, uh, who is on the block and definitely could be in some danger. Uh, Melissa, let's start with you. What do you think about Zay?

[01:09:05] This one's tricky because I feel like I don't think that he himself has done really much wrong. Um, but I do feel like he might end up going home. And I think it's not because of something that he in particular did. I think it would be because, well, he's a strong guy. Why would we not take this opportunity to get him out? Um, he, he's also, you know, there's a lot of talk with the girls saying, you know, we should

[01:09:34] get out a guy. We should get out a guy. So I do feel like he might, it might just be, you know, he just so happens to be there and it's the end of the week and we have this opportunity. Why would we not take it? But I don't feel like he's actively doing anything wrong, but I don't feel like he's really doing much right either. I mean, I've seen some of his conversations. It, I saw in particular conversation between him and Ashley and it, it just felt like they weren't hearing each other.

[01:10:03] It felt like the one where she was whispering and he was yelling back to her. It was like, literally the whole just kept going like, I agree. I agree. I agree. But it was like, they were not saying the same thing like at all. Like they were kept saying like, yeah, but it was not, I was like, they're totally talking about different things right now. So I do feel like he's not doing that great, but it does seem to me like he's not, there's

[01:10:30] not a lot of talk about getting him out. I feel like there's more talk about getting Amy or Kelly out than there is about getting Zay out, which is kind of surprising to me. Well, yeah, go ahead. How about this counter? Do you think there's a world, Melissa, where we're not hearing a lot of them looking to get Zay because they're all so convinced that Zay is going to win the blockbuster. So they don't want to put that out there. I mean, that's totally possible. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:10:56] I think, yeah, I think now that Kelly has been renommed, I think now tomorrow, Wednesday is when you're going to start hearing a little bit more of all the scenarios. But to your point, yeah. I mean, we have to go off what we've heard and that we've not heard a lot of let's have Zay go. I think the biggest advocate for that is Morgan, who did bring up this man taught chess to everybody. So let's not have him be here. Yeah. He knows chess. We can't have that. Yeah. So I guess I would give him a four mainly because I don't think that I think he's in a bad spot,

[01:11:25] but I don't really believe that he himself has done something to put him there. Oh, this is OK. Yeah. All right. I feel like the audience is going to be on your side with the four. I have historically from the beginning been lower on Zay and that opinion hasn't really changed. Amy has Rachel as her locked in number one ride or die.

[01:11:52] I'm going to put in work to try and keep my girl, Amy. Who is that person to Zay? If you can tell me that Zay has a counterpart to that, I will give a four right here right now. Otherwise, I think I'm going to end up with a three here. Three it is. I was like, I don't have an answer for you. Yeah, that's true. Well, you are right that the audience did agree with Melissa. They gave Zay a four.

[01:12:19] My thing with Zay is that I mentioned this on my stream that I think he has that golden retriever energy that makes him very appealing to be used as an ally, as an asset in the game. And that is part of why the bros in the house are like really adamant about keeping him around. Obviously.

[01:12:47] Historically, even with the shift in challenges in competitions in the last year, Zay should have an advantage in the blockbuster competition as well. I would say that right now of the three nominees, he is the most likely person to survive the block. And I would say once he does survive the block, certainly could be used as a pawn again, but

[01:13:15] not super likely to be targeted. There are plenty of bigger targets in the house other than Zay. So I do agree with the audience and Melissa on this one. And I did go with the four. All right. So let's then move on and talk about Jimmy. How are you feeling about Jimmy? I am dreading being called upon first here, Taryn, because I don't know. Here's the thing I can. Let me.

[01:13:45] OK, if you allow it, let me speak all my thoughts into the air and then hear y'all speak and maybe I'll get to my number because I truly am undetermined right now. Jimmy has been an extremely polarizing player. I think within the last 24 hours, he has shown that he can be petty, that he can be unpredictable, that he can be hilarious. But then also he can be calculated and smart. And he thinks through a lot of scenarios. He has a great way of subtly trying to push his agenda to the HOH.

[01:14:13] But he also has a great way of squashing the beef that he had within a matter of seconds. But then he can also yell at them for no reason. He can also confront them for no reason. I'm very confused. I feel like I'm seeing a player who has all the tools available to them to be an amazing player, but might get in their own way for the sake of entertainment, which is shocking because then I'm like, well, I can't give you a seven because there's no way that warrants it. I don't even feel comfortable giving you a six. But then are you a five? Are you a five like these other people?

[01:14:41] I don't think so because I'm seeing a lot more potential from you. But also you could be targeted for this nonsense and get a two next week. So then do I give you a four? Now, do you see why I was a little bit hoping I wasn't the first one called upon? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is a tough one, especially because like I think honestly, the rating I gravitate towards the most is a five, but not for the same reasons at all that I've given the other five. A hundred percent.

[01:15:07] And so that's part of what like frustrates me about the rating, which honestly tempts me to go to a six just to reward him for at least playing the game in week one. But but there are just so many people that are looking hard at Jimmy and that is concerning. Um, if if maybe like that damage control that he had done with Amy had actually worked and she hadn't walked away being like, screw that guy. I just faked him out. Uh, like maybe that would have helped.

[01:15:37] I was genuinely impressed that, uh, that he managed to talk Keanu down after the events of the previous night. So I got to give him some credit for that. And he did help create this very solid structure around him that has, uh, put him in a very good position. The problem is he also has kind of talked his way out of it with the way that he interacts with his Alliance members. Um, so. Ah, man. Yeah.

[01:16:04] I think that, um, I think that giving him a six puts me in a bad space, uh, for other players. What do you mean? Okay. So this is my, I want to advocate for a six is listening to you speak. He is supposed to be a volatile stock. You're supposed to be like, cause if he stays at six next week, you're making that quick profit more than some of these other players, maybe who might stay the same, right? If someone stays a five, nothing happens. If you get a six, it's a little bump up. You should be very much a gamble with Jimmy.

[01:16:34] Cause it could go, you could be getting a seven next week or it's good drop down to a three and you're going to regret doing that. So that's why I'm like low key thinking I might go a six, but I've also not had the foresight of looking at the rest of the house guests to see if that's going to mess up my other numbers. I mean, I think you guys are both spot on. I think, I think I'm going to, maybe I'll just go, I'll just give my number and then we'll just go from there because then at least we have something on the board.

[01:17:00] Um, I'm going to give him a six because I do agree with who you are that it's like right now, right at this moment, like he's, he's got, he's doing well sort of as far right at this moment, snapshot from what we've seen, like it goes up and down and up and down. And I agree with you. It's like a volatile stock. Like that's kind of the point. Like he could literally right after this podcast sense dropped down to a two, like we, like

[01:17:28] we don't know because he's just so out there. And so he's always doing something. There's always some, some drama, some incident, some, you know, some excitement with him. Um, and I feel like I wanted to give him a five because I was like, well, you know, he was doing really good at one point. And like, he has people working with him and he seems to have like his hands and all the cookie jars, but then, you know, he created this drama. He called Keanu out or whatever, blah, blah, blah. And so I was like, well, then I'll just like average it out and give him a five.

[01:17:57] But I do think that like, there is something to the idea of like, of just going for it and giving him like one or the other, like a six or a four. And instead of just giving him a five, because I feel like it's like, we do know what he's about, but we just don't know whether that's going to end up being good or bad at one moment from one moment to the next. So for me, I'm giving him a six because it does seem like he was able, like we said, to squash the beef like immediately.

[01:18:24] And it doesn't seem like anyone right, right at this minute is like, I don't like Jimmy or whatever has issues with him. Um, I don't think this will last. I really think that this is one of those things where like, he's gonna, you know, go out in a blaze of glory or something. I don't know, but it does not seem like this is a winning strategy, but you never know. So I do think it's more fun to give him a six.

[01:18:54] I think ultimately with Jimmy, I think he's going to be his own worst enemy here. But also in my head, I'm kind of thinking about like, after what he's displayed the last 24 hours, if you win HOH and you can put any three people up, you really want to put Jimmy and have him be the one coming after you. I don't know. I mean, he's going to be very loud and very much in your face about it. Do you want that smoke? Because I can imagine you're already stressed enough as you know what, Taryn, let's make it easier for you. I'm gonna also go with six.

[01:19:22] I don't know what the audience did, but if they did five, you do five. You kind of are like, well, I didn't do this. The audience did do five, but I've been convinced. I think a six makes some sense here. I think that like, I mean, the thing is, I say it all the time too. I'll take an active Messi player over a passive, like cleaner player in week one.

[01:19:46] Most times, uh, that like Jimmy is the kind of player who, even if a shot does get taken at him for the next week, um, he's got plenty of outs. There are other plenty of other targets out there that could, uh, take the hit for him. He could win something. He could save himself, whatever. And he's the kind of player where if he survives a shot being taken at him, um, and people perceive him to have been like humbled or weakened in any way. Uh, I could just see him sticking around for a while, read to get regaining some position.

[01:20:14] Like he's just, because he plays so hard, he's all, he's never going to be somebody that you can count out. Um, and so I think that's a good thing generally. Uh, so I'll give him the six here. I do want to mention that, uh, on the feeds right now, obviously I'm not able to listen to it, but from what I'm reading and seeing, uh, Rachel is finally having her conversation with Keanu and informing him that he very nearly went up on the block via Vince and she

[01:20:43] had to talk Vince down to prevent that from happening. I do not know if Keanu believes her, um, uh, but, uh, you know. Well, interesting stuff. I, I, I mean, we imagined that this was a very likely outcome of what would happen given all of the waffling. I haven't yet decided if that's a bad thing or good thing that Rachel is doing.

[01:21:09] Cause if Keanu starts running his mouth, I can't imagine that's good for Amy and then in result, good for Rachel. If he does the most with it. Um, well, uh, it's a six for Jimmy. Let's move on to Catherine, um, who unfortunately is another player. I would say who hasn't really been on the feeds all that much. Uh, the audience did in fact, give her a five.

[01:21:36] Um, and as much as I'd like to do something different here, um, she is somewhat involved in some conversations, but, uh, not in any meaningful enough way quite yet. I think she's, I could justify giving her a six, I think, um, just based on her level of activity and the positioning she has and likability she seems to have.

[01:22:03] Uh, but I, um, yeah, I just, I don't think I can justify it because, uh, none of what I'm thinking might happen for her have, has happened for her yet. Uh, so I just haven't seen enough. I have to, I, I, I've given everyone else a five having not seen enough. I'm going to do the same for Catherine.

[01:22:28] Um, I'm going to give Catherine a six because I did really like the conversations that she was having with people. The personal conversations I felt went really well. And as well as their strategic conversations, I feel like she's not pushing too much. She's not too out there. Um, but the conversations that I had, I saw with her, um, it seemed like she knew what was going on or like had a good game head on her shoulders.

[01:22:52] And so, um, I feel like I feel rather confident that she could do something good in the future or like that she could sense what's going on around her and really play things correctly. Hopefully, hopefully, I mean, who knows, but, um, like with Ava and Will and Adrian, like, I actually really haven't seen like any conversations with them.

[01:23:15] Um, the only conversation I saw with like Ava was like, you know, just general like chatting, but then also the Keanu conversation where he was telling her all this stuff. And she was just like, wow. Oh my God. Um, so I didn't really get a good feel for what Ava can do versus Catherine. I did see some game conversations, multiple game conversations. So I like what I saw from her. Um, so yeah, I'm going to give her a six. I'm just going to go out there and do it.

[01:23:42] In a world where Jimmy for me was like a seven that got minus one into a six. I feel like Catherine's a five that got plus one into a six for me. Similar to what we said about what I said about Ava getting a six for me, um, is that someone who's not being talked about negatively good. Um, being considered for plans also good. And just the little bits and pieces I've seen, I think she's a great listener and a good conversation.

[01:24:06] I feel like you go to her, you talk and it seems like everyone's leaving those conversations in a good spot, feeling good about her. So I like that. I think there's a lot of potential here also. So there was a world that could have given a five to let people benefit from the getting in on the ground floor with Catherine. But no, you got to pay the premium here. Yeah. All right. So a six for Catherine. Let's move on then to Keanu. Oh, no.

[01:24:39] Keanu, Keanu, Keanu. He really, he really just came so close to becoming the first boot today. Like he came real close. And it was, I would say a good 99% his own doing. Like he did not need to be doing really any of what he was doing.

[01:25:08] His read on the house is abysmal. He thinks that, uh, Rachel, Amy, Ashley, uh, Jimmy and Morgan, uh, are all working together to, uh, against him. When almost that exact group of people who are not all in concert, uh, basically minus Jimmy are all the people who worked hard to keep him off the block that day.

[01:25:34] Uh, Rachel and Morgan in particular, uh, were the only two people to actively say, no, Vince don't do this. He does. He did not believe it. He is now perhaps being informed of it, but I've got to say without being able to listen to this conversation, Keanu's face to me does not read grateful for the information he's getting from Rachel. That could mean just that he doesn't like the information because it's not good for him.

[01:25:58] Or it could mean that he is skeptical of it, which is honestly what I'm a little worried that he might be, but I'm not listening to the conversation and I'm not gonna let that impact my rating. Uh, just in general, Keanu has been an absolute mess. Um, and I would say, unfortunately seems to lack a lot of self-awareness.

[01:26:17] Um, but when it comes to like the people he's talking to, uh, he just doesn't seem to understand, like he, he doesn't seem to be able to read other people like, uh, almost at all. Uh, and it leads to these very awkward long conversations where the person doesn't really want anything to do with him or he's clearly being placated or lied to, and he doesn't realize it.

[01:26:40] Uh, he's constantly talking about this 10 person alliance he wants to put together, uh, called the outcasts, uh, where it's going to be all of the people who aren't in the group that he made up in his head that doesn't actually exist. And, um, it's just a bit of a mess. And, uh, I mean, I think that of the people we've talked about so far, he has easily played the worst. Uh, he is not in danger of going home this week, but only by the skin of his teeth.

[01:27:07] So, um, I think I have to give him a three. Wait. Oh. Okay. I was going to say, if you want new information, he basically just told Rachel, and I don't think anyone's in any alliances right now. A two. No one's trying to be in alliance with me. There's two barks for a two also. There we go.

[01:27:39] Oh, boy. Yeah. I mean, I was about to say a three as well, because I was like, you know, but I do feel like it's a two. He's just doing so much. He's constantly talking to everybody. Every, like any screen I was going to, any camera I flipped to, it was like him saying the same thing to somebody else. And it was just like, there's just too much. It's, he's just doing too much and he's not really doing it well. And people are kind of getting annoyed and he talks a lot, like two people. He's not really like having a conversation.

[01:28:08] It's like, okay, here's my pitch. Like, here's what's going on. This is the alliance. This person, this person. And everyone's just like, whoa, what's going on here? Um, yeah, he, he's just, he's doing too much. And I think also like, it doesn't help him that he's also so he looks like a threat. So it's not just like, okay, he's doing too much, but like, we don't really have to worry about him because he's just kind of, he's not going to win competitions. Like he'll win competitions too. And he's like doing too much. So it's like people have excuses to get rid of him.

[01:28:38] Um, yeah, I just feel like he's, he's just doing way too much. Um, yeah, it's a two. Uh, you know, when the draft happened, I was very upset with Melissa for putting me last. I was like, I can't get Morgan. I can't even get my backups. Melissa, I thank you because if I was ahead of Rob, I would have ended up with Keanu as my first pick. And I think I would have been on a tailspin right now.

[01:29:07] Um, who has last night. Oh yeah. Wow. Rob has Keanu, Catherine and Rachel right before feeds came on. I was like, Rob's going to demolish us. Now we'll see. Um, okay. So when the feeds first came on and we had this moment where Keanu's passionately talking about DMing dungeons and dragons and he's explaining it by the pool to everybody. And I was like, he's passionate. Look at him talking about a thing he's passionate about. Then he kept talking. Then he kept talking.

[01:29:35] I was like, okay, I think everyone's getting, you know, leaving the combo a little bit. Rachel's not looking like she's loving it. Whatever. That's fine. Maybe it's just him talking about his passion. Then he kept going and he goes on like this about any topic. Passion does not matter. He can talk for miles and it's usually not in a good way. The amount of times, you know, the whole montage of Ashley going into the HOH room a bunch. That's been Keanu. Keanu will walk into every conversation. You'll forget that he's been around for two seconds. And then he pulls up once again.

[01:30:05] There was a moment today when he was so Riley and Vince were in the HOH room. Then Catherine came in. The three of them were talking. Keanu walks in and Vince said, can I get a minute here with Catherine? And he's like, with Riley in here? And Riley's like, what? He's like, yeah, with Riley in here? You want him? He can say, but I can't. And it was the most awkward thing I have seen. I am actively nervous about anybody that's trying to buddy up with Keanu here.

[01:30:32] I do not think Keanu is someone you can lean on right now at all. Even if he's your closest ally, that's almost a detriment to you right now. So I low-key thought my two was going to be, I was going to be the Simon Cowell of the rating with the two here on him. But y'all also went twos. I'm going to give him a two. There ain't no way I'm giving someone who's not on the block of one here. Um, because he could mess around and win a comp, I guess. Like that's a redeeming factor.

[01:31:01] But also, no, I think what has happened, the sad reality though, I'm gonna give him a two. Sad reality though, is that I think there's a lot of worlds where he could just be put on the block next week. So we'll see. Well, the audience did give him a three. But what I will tell you is that it is considerably lower than the score Amy got. It was, uh, Amy got a 3.35. Keanu got a 2.77.

[01:31:31] Uh, oh, so yeah. Okay. So they, he's really benefiting from the rounding, uh, up and down there. Um, so, uh, there it is a two for Keanu, the lowest rated player of the stock watch so far from, uh, from every Raider, including the audience. Um, all right, let's move on then to Kelly. What fresh takes she has on big brother strategy, Melissa?

[01:32:00] Yeah, that's not, uh, man. I just feel like at first when they turned the feeds on, I was like, oh, okay. Like she's, she's pretty good. She's in all these conversations. She's like, you know, seems like she has people that she's working with. I, I honestly was going to be like, okay, yeah, I, I didn't see it in the preseason, but actually she's, you know, really playing the game. Hi. Sorry. Callan wants to say hi. Um, he was saying, can he come say hi?

[01:32:30] Um, but anyway, I do feel like here's Callan really quick. Just a quick. Hi. He says, hi. Hi. Yeah. What do you think? You like big brother? You like podcast? Okay. You're pulling off my headphones. Okay. Anyway, he wants to be part of it.

[01:32:52] Um, but yeah, so for Kelly, I just feel like she, um, when anyone who volunteers, like she was literally like, oh, well I'll do it. I don't care. And she's like, just, that's fine. I won't be mad. I won't be mad. It's like, don't say that stuff. Don't. Even if you're trying to be like, oh, I'm easy going. I'm easy breezy. And I just want you to know that I'm like a good ally to you. Like, don't give them an option. Don't give that to them.

[01:33:21] So for me, uh, she's a two for me. Um, I not a one yet because she could, she hasn't like, I just, well, I don't know. Are we doing one for her? I'm doing one. If you want to jump on the one train here, Melissa, I'm doing a one for sure. All right. I'll do one too. I'll just jump right out there. Yeah. Two.

[01:33:45] Um, because, because I'm literally just like thinking about it and I'm like, well, usually I reserve the ones like I was thinking I'll keep her as a two because, you know, she might not go home. Who knows? But she put herself there in the first place and she's doing nothing to save herself. She literally, people are annoyed with her. They're not feeling good about her. People don't seem to want to work with her. And even though the girls are all like, we need to get a guy out.

[01:34:14] They're still like, well, we can get Kelly out. That's fine. We don't need her. So it's not good. She's like collateral damage in so many situations where even if they don't want her to go, if she goes like, okay, we move on. Life is fine. Her biggest advocate at this point is Vince. Um, Keanu campaigning for her is only going to be poison. I don't even know if Keanu is going to be looking that way after, uh, the information Rachel has put out there for Keanu to take up.

[01:34:40] I just feel like she's someone whose personality clearly isn't gelling with the other house guests because there's these moments where she'll like make a comment. And they've taken it to be so offensive. Like her jokes or whatever. They just don't like it. You're going for the long game play. Huh? I see you. And it's like, whoa, what are you doing? That's heinous. Don't do that. Okay. Well, someone else could have gone away with doing that. I just don't think that's good. I think the whole volunteering thing, I was so ready to be like, look at the edit, trying to make it seem like that was a real thing when she didn't even go up and then her

[01:35:09] feeds come on and she's going up. I still can't get over the fact that everyone in the house is like, you shouldn't do that for your, you know, that's not good for you, Vince. Don't put her up. She knows he's going to put her up. And yet she ends up like even when she was trying to be like, don't put me up. It was very little. Like all she is. Remember, the one quote I had from today was if you're feeling hesitant, people are talking about Keanu. You could maybe have him go up. That was it. There wasn't a lot of urgency there.

[01:35:36] So it's a one because even if she does stay for me, she's going right back up on that block until she leaves. Like I just unless she wins an HOH or maybe some fights happen, then she can slip through the cracks. But I think her game's bust already. Yes. The audience gave Kelly a two. They did not quite get down to the one. It's pretty difficult to get down to the one for the audience.

[01:36:01] But yeah, I mean, this is this couldn't be anything other than one. She put herself on the block in the very first week and is, you know, one of the most likely people to go home this week for on her closest allies HOH train due to her own decisions. What could possibly be worse? Maybe maybe being the one who chooses to do it as the HOH. I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. All right.

[01:36:31] Let's move on then to Lauren. Let's talk a bit about Lauren. How do you feel about Lauren? I'm high on Lauren. I've not seen a lot of Lauren on the feeds quite yet. Similar to some of the other cases we've had. But there's a couple of points that I want to bring up and I can't decide if they're good or bad. And I'll explain in a second. I think Lauren is going to shows a lot of potential.

[01:37:00] I think she knows the game on the slide, which is great. She, you know, the episodes did show us she was like the best detective and realizing I think it's a woman, but I don't know who it could be. So I thought like that was good instincts right there. I think she is young. They know she's young. But last night there was a lot of people are shipping her and Zach quite heavy. She doesn't want to really talk about that. Now, my worry for her is despite her being having the knowledge, being a good game player,

[01:37:28] my worry is she gets put in a box of being a showman's person and discounted. But I don't think she's going anywhere. I think she's got longevity. I think she's got potential. And in a world where she's in a showman's with Zach, which I again, there's no basis for that happening outside of maybe some flirtation or some. I think she could be in a good spot. So I know I said I'm going to say my points. They could be good or bad. I'm high on her. So I think I'm going to but I don't think I'm high on her as in she's number one in

[01:37:58] the house at the moment to give her a seven. I think I'm just going to soft go with six here. But very easily, this could have been a seven if I saw more of her in the last 24 hours. The audience does agree. They gave Lauren a six as well. My issue is that I just I still also feel like I haven't just I haven't seen that much of right. I I would I have an image of Lauren in my head that is very favorable.

[01:38:27] Uh, the this is the Lauren from the episode. This is the Lauren who everyone is talking about as though she is this delicate little lamb that could never harm a fly and would never tell a lie. Um, and I love the idea of her kind of playing that up and not really being her and that she's actually going to be slitting some throats and playing the game hard. And I love this. I love this Lauren.

[01:38:51] Lauren, but that's that's the I that's like, uh, that's like me being Zach, but like strategically oriented. That's like Zach being like, she's she's perfect. Uh, he's like made up a version of Lauren in his head. I'm doing the same thing, but for her as a player. Uh, and so I think ultimately if I'm being realistic and sticking to what is actually in front of my eyes, I have to go with a five, uh, with the hope that it improves from here because

[01:39:18] I have hopes for Lauren moving forward. Yeah, I'm going to, I agree with what you're saying, although I'm going to give Lauren a six because the conversation I did see with Lauren, um, was very good. And I feel like it, it did give me some faith that she, um, is that type of strategic person, the good head on her shoulders, et cetera. Like that's what I'm seeing. And also the fact that Zach liking her, like that could go either way.

[01:39:48] It could be like a beast mode cowboy situation where it hurts her game, or it could be like, okay, yeah, great. Rachel and Brendan situation where he'll like sacrifice his game for her or whatever. Like, you know, so it could, it really could go either way at this point. Like I'm inclined to say a six because I was impressed with what I saw, but it, who knows? Hmm. All right, then let's move on to Mickey who did receive a six from the audience.

[01:40:18] Uh, I feel good about Mickey. Uh, Mickey is a player who I've seen just enough of so far to enjoy what she's doing. To be, uh, appreciative of the way that she's approaching the game. Um, she is just connected enough to be, uh, considered a power player. I would say she's not part of the heavy hitters Alliance, but that Alliance is so broken that

[01:40:46] I do not think that particularly matters on top of that. She does seem to be aware that Alliance exists, which is another huge factor. She was taking steps to start building, uh, power structure outside of it. I think all of that is very good. I think that, um, it wouldn't surprise me if Mickey comes away with one of the more lasting power structures out of this week.

[01:41:12] If she continues to, uh, push in the directions she is, um, that her biggest threat at this point seems to be some of these bro-y guys. Uh, but she also seems to be relatively aware of that. Uh, I'm a little concerned that, uh, that Mickey and, uh, by extension Morgan. Uh, I I'm a little word that they're too concerned about Jimmy who actually I think is less of

[01:41:37] a threat than a player like Zach, but I still really like what they're doing. And if I'm going to give anyone a high rating, I think Mickey has to be one of those people and I'm going to give her a seven, a very hopeful seven. I agree. I want to give her a seven as well. I feel like she, she has seemingly close relationships with a lot of people. I saw her having really good conversations with Jimmy, with Ashley.

[01:42:07] I mean, I feel like she's, people seem to really connect with her. And the fact, like you said, that she knows that there's this heavy hitters alliance, like that's huge. I mean, that's already really important. So, um, I, I think that like she's able to kind of get a visual of like what's going on in the house and like where she needs to be. And so far, I mean, it doesn't seem like people are targeting her. Um, and it seems like she kind of knows what's going on.

[01:42:37] So, um, I, I've been impressed with her so far and the conversations that she's been having are really good. Um, so yeah, I would give her a seven. She is somebody who, yep. She's not in the heavy hitters. I think that's a great spot because that alliance, even though it's the biggest one available right now, it's doomed to fail, uh, from where I'm standing. I also think in the event that it does stick around or has some staying power, there is someone in there who's willing to go to bat for her in the form of Morgan.

[01:43:07] I think the only thing that concerns me for, for Mickey and Morgan is that people already see them as a duo, but they're a duo that are liked and duos that have made connections with other people in this house, which I do not think will get punished for being seen as a duo. I think they're going to be okay. Um, keeping it low key week one, but knowing where pieces are, I think is always a huge advantage. And you're no slot yourself. You've got some other connections that you're working on as well that are brewing. I really thought I was coming in being special with the seven here, but then now I'm the third

[01:43:36] person giving a seven. But listen, I think that, you know, like I felt about, uh, Keanu having Mickey on the team makes me feel really good about the person we'll talk about second to last later. Yes. Uh, someone in the chat earlier just said, uh, all the stocks I wanted are six plus, which means we've done something right. Exactly. No freebies. Um, all right, let's then move on to Morgan.

[01:44:05] Um, Morgan is, I would say, obviously working closely with Mickey, uh, has a lot of the same, um, motivations, has a lot of the same, uh, goals, but a little bit more exposed, I would say, uh, at the same time though, a bit more connected with the. With the bros and with the people in power. Um, so there are some pros and cons here.

[01:44:29] Uh, in particular, she's very close to Zach and Zach is the key to the bros. Uh, in fact, Zach just last night was talking to Vince about like, Hey, what if it's just you, me and Morgan weird that he would pull Morgan considering she is actively trying to take out one of his allies say, but I think that just speaks to the relationship that at the, that at the very least they can. Currently have.

[01:44:56] Um, I do think, uh, I do also appreciate how much she is, uh, trying to do this, how much she's sticking up for herself in this spot. Uh, it is a spot where a lot of other players might go, you know what? I'm going to just let the Alliance do what they want. I'm clearly outnumbered here. Uh, if they want to keep say, I'll let them keep say.

[01:45:19] Uh, it reminds me a bit actually of like Monty and Kyle in a post pack back in the day when they were like, we're not just going to lie down and take this. We're going to, you know, really push hard. And if you fight back too hard, then that tells us where you stand. And I feel like that should be the lesson Morgan takes away from this. And I think it is. Um, but, uh, I'm going to say again that I worry that the blind spot is Zach because of the relationship she has with him.

[01:45:47] So, um, I would love to also give Morgan a seven, but, uh, the final piece for me that, that brings her down to a six, uh, is that she does not have the connections that Mickey does outside of that structure with some of the other women in the game right now. And with some of the, uh, like outside players. And given that that seems to be the direction she either is or should be heading, that could

[01:46:14] be a bit of a problem if she doesn't start working on those relationships and stop hanging out with Zach all the time. So, uh, it's going to be a six for Morgan from me. Uh, this one's tricky for me. I feel like it's like I'm torn between a six and a seven, honestly, because I feel like she's doing a little bit too much, but maybe that's not such a bad thing.

[01:46:41] Like, I don't think people are thinking that she's doing too much at this point, but I I, I feel like she's doing a little too much. I feel like she's constantly like in the conversation and not only just in the conversation, but she's, she feels like she's constantly like talking and leading the conversation. It's like Keanu, Jimmy and Morgan. I feel like they're constantly like, and to me, I feel like you want to be involved in the conversation.

[01:47:09] Like it did seem more like when I watched some particular conversations, it was like, for example, there was one with Jimmy, Morgan and Zach, and it felt like Jimmy and Morgan were like that, that, that, that, that, and Zach was kind of like listening and maybe would add things here and there. And I feel like that's the position you want to be in. You want to be like listening to these conversations, part of the conversations, but not saying so much. Like you don't want to be that person who's just, just talking and giving up the information and all that sort of thing.

[01:47:38] Um, so yeah, I don't know. I feel like, um, let's come back to me. I'm still, I'm vacillating. Um, Morgan coming into the season was my winner pick after what we've seen. I'm not mad at it still. I think that, um, the early worry of the gamer girl, just saying she's a gamer girl has long

[01:48:08] left the station, but to the points being made, I do think she's a lot more active. Um, or at least we've seen her be a lot more active. The list you gave the top three of the most chatters, I wouldn't disagree with it necessarily, but I do think there is a subtlety still to her compared to Jimmy and Keanu. I think the thing that I really liked today was her and Keanu having this longer conversation about, you know, the Keanu going in a little bit too hard on her based on some of the conversation there, the confrontation.

[01:48:37] And so seeing them have this civil conversation and then leave it being okay. And even to a point where she even defended Keanu a little bit. I like to see that. I feel like her energy is really good. She's the biggest advocate to get rid of Zay, uh, maybe even more than Rachel. Rachel's more so like, I want Amy to stay. Morgan's like, nah, Zay gotta go. So that could come back to bite her. I did see her mentioned to Zach while we were talking that, uh, something along the lines of, uh, she's looking at Zay or Zay's going to target her.

[01:49:07] So we'll see what happens with that. I feel like for me, she's a very strong 6.48. Like she could have been a seven, but I'm going six here. I think that's the safer spot to be here. Um, this could be someone who's easily an eight next week though. We'll see. All right. The audience did agree. They gave Morgan a six, Melissa. All right. I'll go with a six with the hope that next week's seven. All right.

[01:49:36] Um, let's move on then again to Rachel. Uh, and I believe, uh, Melissa, we're going to start with you again. How do you feel about Rachel? Oh man, not this. Oh man. Uh, well, I think Rachel is doing excellent work with her social game. Now here's the thing. Apparently some conversation just happened on the fees where she confronted Keanu about something. And like, we don't know how that went. Uh, we didn't watch that. Yeah.

[01:50:05] That was what I was talking about. She told Keanu that she was the one that stopped him from going up on the block. Yeah. So I'm just like, I don't know if that conversation is good for her or bad for her. I don't, I like to like see how the conversation, like I get that, like we hear what the information is, but like me seeing it and seeing how it's coming across is, is a bit different. Cause then I can see like, okay, this is how she'll handle confrontation, uh, in the future. But I don't know. So I do love the fact that she seems to be really connecting with people and getting to know people.

[01:50:35] I don't love the fact that she's like riding so hard for Amy at this point. Like as much as it's, I like Amy and I'd like Amy to stay, it's kind of like, this is the first week. Like it's fine. She can go. I don't know. I feel like it's like if everyone else is trying to get Amy to go, or if you're saying like, well, there's no possible way I'll vote for anyone. If, if Amy's on the block, um, that's not great, but I do feel like she's doing, she's doing great work.

[01:51:03] She's sort of blending in at the same time. She's not eligible to be evicted this week. So obviously she's kind of going to blend into the background, um, because she's not an option. If, if they had the ability to nominate her, then maybe that would be more of the conversation. But right now it's like, well, we don't even have the ability to nominate her. And maybe that's the same for Ava and will and Adrian and think, wait, isn't Adrian not eligible either? Or he's eligible. He's no, he is. What do you mean? Eligible to be nominated.

[01:51:34] Okay. Okay. Because I was thinking like, we've got all these people that are fives and maybe it's because they're laying low because they're not eligible to be nominated and nobody is talking about them because they can't be nominated. But anyway. Um, I feel like, I think I'll give her a seven because I have been very impressed with her social game. I think she's doing really excellent work in that respect. And it does seem like she's making good connections with people.

[01:52:04] I do think that she, that we'll just have to see for the next week when she's eligible to be nominated, how people treat that. Is it an immediate, like, okay, let's get her out. We have the opportunity. Or are people not really that interested in getting her out yet? I don't know. So it doesn't seem like she's going to be an immediate target, but I'm not really sure. Well, you would like for me to go next turn? That is how the order generally goes. Yes.

[01:52:34] Yes. Thank you. Okay. Um, here's the thing I've, and I'm seeing quite a few people talking about, um, saying that there's too much push for Amy to stay or that, you know, her Amy, to a certain degree, Ashley are seen as a trio. I don't think any of these things are necessarily negative. They very well could be right. It's a, you can look at it both sides of the two sides of coin, but to me, Amy and Ashley

[01:53:02] are, if they both say are two people that are always going to end up on the block before Rachel has it right now, because they've already been on the block and no one wants that returning smoke yet that we've seen. So I think that's, yeah, not bad for her at the moment. I think on the other side of the coin, if, if Amy was to leave this week, people are going to see her as less of a threat. She has one last piece next to her. Right. That's not bad. I think also if, if Amy does leave or Amy stays, I think everyone's like, well, she was your person.

[01:53:31] And you, you two bonded over being mothers. We get that. I don't think there's a lot of like negative energy for her to do that. Um, you know, it's like, oh, we expected this. And this house really seems to be like, well, I appreciate you saying to my face that you're going to vote this person or keep this person in. I think that's also good. Now I hadn't come in thinking I was going to give her a seven low key. I was thinking of giving her a six. Um, but I'm still, I'm still weighing it out live off the dome right now, talking to you

[01:54:00] all, because I think that the, the social game to Melissa's point has been amazing. There's no drama here. We really thought feeds were going to come on and her and Jimmy have like a civil war. Her and Jimmy feeds came on and they're just bonding. Like they're just having a conversation. It's chill. It's fine. The way she, if, and this is a big, if this might be the reason why I go to a seven, this is something that we're not going to see the payoff for because this podcast has to end soon. We're not going to find out if Keanu spills the beans or not, but if Keanu keeps this

[01:54:30] internalized and then does vote out say that's very good for her. I think that's a very good job. That's amazing. To have to control a Keanu is to do magic. I do not think this is a possible thing based on what I've seen after a day. So maybe all of this does make me go give her a seven, but if I'm being honest and vocal, it's a weaker seven than Mickey's. So let me just preface it like that. And then let me go ahead and give her a seven because she does have numbers behind her.

[01:54:58] And I still really genuinely, maybe naively do not think she goes up. I think her numbers go up nine times out of 10 over her. So, oh, oh, Kelly is going to bring up her name. If she follows that scheme at the, at the eviction, but also no offense intended. It's Kelly, the person who got a one on our ratings because she has no sway in the house. I don't think that does anything. I really don't. Well, the audience does agree with both of you.

[01:55:29] They gave Rachel a seven. I'm going to disagree with both of you on two points. One is the rating. Please. Which I'm going to give her a different rating. Number two, I'm going to defend her from one of the points that was made, which was that I really do feel like she's doing exactly what she should be doing with Amy, which is just very clearly stating, no, I'm not going to vote out Amy. Why would I do that? Yeah.

[01:55:56] I think that that just makes the most sense. I think that she should not be losing an ally of hers. I think that if she loses Amy as an ally this week, I think that spells doom for her in the future, which is why my rating is actually lower than a seven this week. I think that if she fails to keep Amy, the other players will smell blood in the water.

[01:56:24] She will have shown weakness and that veneer of like returning player status that like bulletproof armor that many of them have will go away and they won't be afraid to put her on the block or target her. And that's a problem. All these returning player seasons where we see the returning player do super well.

[01:56:46] A huge part of that is this feeling of invincibility, this fear that it instills in other players to not go against them. And if Rachel is unable to hold her ground here, that's bad. She loses an ally. And there are a lot of people in this game that are side-eyeing her, even as they talk about liking her a lot. And so I am concerned for her if Amy leaves.

[01:57:13] If Amy stays and she swings this vote, then she's definitely in a very good place. And it is my uncertainty about where this vote goes right now that is keeping her from being a higher rating for me. So there we go. A seven overall, though, for Rachel. I will say also, I think she's very clearly the most capable and obviously experienced player in the game right now. That is not surprising by any means.

[01:57:43] But she is the player I would put the most amount of faith into to get through any given situation. So we'll put it that way as well. All right. So let's move on to Riley. Puya, how are you feeling about Riley? I mean, personally, not great. No, here's the thing.

[01:58:09] I mean, he's also somebody who, funnily enough, we have seen more of Riley than we have some of these other people that have gotten fives. Not to say that I'm giving him a five just so we're clear, not sure. But there's one thing I've picked up on personally on Riley that I do not like. Riley sometimes will talk because you know how some people will use cuss words for emphasis. I do it all the time when I'm not on a podcast. Riley will do that, but it sounds intense and not in a good way.

[01:58:37] And I just can't help but feel like if someone crosses this man, he's going to say things and it's going to be very negative and it's going to come out very angry. And this nice Riley they're seeing goes away completely. But for now, all of that said, that's again my read. So it's not really factual or anything but my vibe on him. However, seems like everyone's fine with him. He's getting along with people. He's being included in plans.

[01:59:07] If you had told me that Riley was going to end up being in the biggest alliance in the that is the heavy hitters after being accused of being the accomplice. I did not think that whatsoever. I did not expect that whatsoever. But also, I still and not trying to be rude. I still do not feel like this man's here to play big brother. I don't know what he's here to play, but I do not get the sense that he's in this for the game like that. He does have this mentality of he's mentioned it a couple times where he's like,

[01:59:36] I don't give an F about anything as I'll back any decision as long as I'm not, you know, once I'm put up on the block, then I'll act out. Otherwise, I'm just going to be me and just do what I'm doing. Not a bad philosophy to have in this game, especially when you're already in some groupings there. So it's weird. I'm trying, you know, I try to be objective with these ratings. I almost want my personal bias minus one him like very vocally here.

[02:00:03] So I want to give him he's a five to me. I kind of feel like I want to give him a four. All right. So I don't know what to do. Don't put it down yet. Don't put it down. Let me let me let me back. Let me backpedal and jump on one of your ratings. Maybe let me see what y'all do. All right. Well, I know. You know what? Maybe for him. Give him a four. Let me be firm. Why am I? Why am I? Let me just. All right. Yeah, let's just lock it in for my gut. Yeah, the audience gave Riley a five.

[02:00:33] More fair than me. And I think I'll agree with the audience on this one, just in the sense that I still don't feel like I understand him as a player. I'm concerned that he is just all over the place, which may be true. But at the very least, he seems to be doing well enough socially and weirdly in a power structure, even though he's not super active within it. I just don't see him being in any trouble anytime soon right now.

[02:01:01] And, you know, I just don't like if he if I had faith in him as a player, his position, I think, would be good enough to give a six to. But but I just don't. I just don't know what where his head is at at all. And so it's more like a five for me. Yeah, agreed five for me as well, mainly because, yeah, he's doing fine.

[02:01:26] I mean, I'm not seeing a lot of him, but from what I've seen, like it seems like people really like him and he is in the power structure. But I haven't really seen enough to, you know, determine whether he's lower or higher. So bye for me. Wow. Another five. All right, then let's move on to Vince. Vince, let's talk about our HOH, Vince.

[02:01:51] And we will lead off with the audience rating, which was a three, a three from the audience for Vince. For me, I am going to give Vince. I'm going to I'm going to one. Get out of here, Vince. I'm done. No. Tell us why. Listen, I've been on record many times over the course of my time podcasting.

[02:02:18] I think that if you are the HOH and you use your HOH to take out an ally of yours at the behest of the house, I think that you are a fool and I think that you will not win the game because a player who has done that has never won the game. And here's the thing. This isn't even at the behest of the house. The house is begging you not to. What are you doing?

[02:02:43] He keeps saying that if if Kelly goes home, he will be made a fool of. But here's the thing. No, sir. You are getting a one whether or not Kelly goes home because you should not be putting yourself in that position. You should not be putting yourself in the position in the first week to say I am either the biggest fool this show has ever seen or.

[02:03:09] I get through a week of HOH and like everyone else who has ever been HOH has in the entire history of the show. What are you doing? That's it. He's the one. OK. Yeah. No, no, no. I'm in agreement. He's a one. I I'm so disappointed. I feel like going into it, I really thought he was going to do well. It seemed like and even when he won HOH, I wasn't like, oh, no, this is bad.

[02:03:38] I was really thinking he had like a good head on his shoulders. He was going to do well at HOH. And I don't know where this came from. It just seems so ludicrous. I think like he. He he's so obsessed with the idea that someone will be mad at him, that when Kelly offered him the opportunity to not have that person be mad at him, he was like, I'll take it. But wasn't really thinking straight when it came to the strategy.

[02:04:07] And I mean, I could sort of understand it if the entire house was saying, like, you must put this person up. You must put this person up. Like, if you don't put this person up, you're going to be out next week. Even then, I wouldn't do it. But I at least could understand the mindset of like, OK, well, the whole house is saying to do it. Like, you know, you have to. But that's not the case here. In fact, people were actively saying don't put her up. So, yeah, it's just it's not good. It's a one.

[02:04:38] Interesting. Stuff because I do think he did this poorly. I think this rain has been poor. But also it all comes down to what the rest of the house thinks. I'm not seeing nearly enough people calling him a big dummy or for the rain yet. But also, I think the other part of it is and Taryn, you already alluded to this earlier where, you know, at this point in the game, we had not seen Frenchy was not being targeted. So there's a world where that could happen. I don't know.

[02:05:06] Maybe I'm wilding, but I have. More faith in him that I do Frenchy to survive. I feel like he's got more connections that do not feel like because the thing with Frenchy was he was like almost to a fault. Vince is a little wants to be way more passive. Right. Vince was again. If he got safety only, he would have been happy. He wanted safety that came with this, which let it be a lesson with winning an H. You get safety and you get power. If you don't can't handle both, you shouldn't go for it because you can only hurt your game by doing that.

[02:05:35] That one week of safety will do you no good. Now, that being said, he's a little too passive. He's a little too passive. And I don't think that's a bad thing here. Whereas with Frenchy, Frenchy was like he had a stranglehold. He's like, no, we're doing this. We're calling it the butcher. No, it's not the butcher shop. The slaughterhouse. Like he was like doing the most for no reason. I don't think Vince does that. So for me, I think and let it be known, I'm not giving a high rating. I'm not giving he's not getting a one.

[02:06:03] Simply because I feel like this is somebody who could legitimately just get a five next week, like end up on a five. And like, I'm not letting y'all get on the ground floor with a one purchase a week. Go random. Not so I'm going to I'm going to stick with the audience. You know, let me be the voice of the people here a little bit. Let me let me give him a three. He'll round up to a two. That's still not a lot. Um, and again, my faith is plummeted here with with Vince. Imagine my feeling, you know, fifth overall pick Vince is doing this.

[02:06:31] So I just think he has longevity in the game. I don't think he's winning at this stage. If he does, I'd be very surprised. He has to correct a lot of wrongs. But as far as perception in the house goes, he's not looked at as a total L yet. Yeah, I don't disagree. It was just important for me to stand on business and make sure it on record. I appreciate it. I respect it. Yeah. Well, Chow was saying you've been you've been talking about this guy for 24 hours. Now I need to go find out what you've been ranting about on stream.

[02:07:01] That's that's the thing, too, is that like, I think unless you've been down in the trenches and you have to be fair. But like, to listen to this guy talk and have him justify these decisions by counting of his 14 votes, he thinks he can get maybe seven. And it would be devastating if he didn't get those seven. And then saying, yep, this is the move I want to make. It's just.

[02:07:31] It's just wild. It's just bad. All right, let's move on to our final player of the week. It's Zach. Now. I am going to I'm going to give Zach a rating. And what I'm going to say is I don't think he's the best strategic player of the cast. I don't think he's the second best strategic player of the cast. You could maybe argue he's the third, but I think that would be a stretch.

[02:08:01] What I will say is I do think that Zach is currently the best positioned player on the cast. And that goes to that speaks to his position in the power structure, his position within the power structure, his position outside of the power structure. The fact that nobody's looking at him, the fact that he has a lot of influence in a lot of different areas and very important, very key.

[02:08:28] He has a pocket veto that he can play at any time if he's ever in any trouble. Zach is definitely the best positioned person in the house right now. And for that reason, I am going to give him a seven. Yeah, I agree. Honestly, maybe even an eight, but but purely because of the power that he has.

[02:08:55] I think I'll stick with a seven, but I will say because I you know, I wasn't like super impressed with the work I was seeing him do. But he had he's so overpowered. Um, it's kind of wild. Uh, it especially with like the fact that he is a comp threat. And a lot of I mean, there's multiple opportunities to pull yourself off the block right now with comps and then he has that power. So I feel like it's he's very powerful right now.

[02:09:23] But I don't know if I feel like he's got the strategy to back it up at this point. I mean, we'll see because it seems like he's having decent conversations with people. It seems like he's in a good position in and he's got these alliances and people want to work with him and things like that. Um, but I could see a situation where people are like, OK. This guy is he's an athlete. He's strong. He's in a good spot like we need to get him.

[02:09:52] Um, so he could be in danger coming up. But yeah, for right now, seven. Yeah, I mean, in a world where I would say in the house that he currently exists in, the fact that he seems to be a fairly competent player at worst puts him ahead of a lot of the pack. Um, that combined with his position, I think is part of why he is as high as he is for me right now.

[02:10:17] It is very interesting because I do think there's a couple of players there who we gave like baseline fives because we didn't see that could outrank him. Right. We just didn't get to see it. We don't know. Um, that veto is doing a lot of lifting, um, for him. I think having that in your back pocket just by default should make you a lot more relaxed. Right. And give you a lot more opportunity to just like socialize bond and do all those things. But I'm not even going to discredit him there because I feel like he does have decent social game from what I've seen for sure.

[02:10:46] Um, and you know, not trying to let my own feelings towards him seep in because that would be toxic. Um, that actually sounds like I read him a lot worse personally. I really don't. I really nothing, Zach. Um, but not derogatorily. I don't know. I'm like talking myself into a hole here. I've not. I've also not slept enough folks. Okay. Allow me. Um, but I guess seven was a surprise to me. But what you two are saying makes sense. I am going to go ahead and give him a six. All right.

[02:11:15] The audience does agree with you, Pooja. They also gave Zach a six, which will still leave, leave him at a seven overall. And that is the stock watch this week. Uh, just to quickly give you a summary here. Adrian, Ava, Will, and Riley all received an average of five. Um, Amy is at a three.

[02:11:42] Ashley and Zay are at fours. Uh, then you have Jimmy, Catherine, Lauren, and Morgan at sixes. You have Mickey, Rachel, and Zach up at sevens. You have Vince at a two and Kelly at a one. And that is, uh, those are the ratings for the week. Nice. I like it. We got a good mix. You know, in the beginning, it felt like we were just gonna have straight fives down the line, but we got variety here.

[02:12:12] Yeah, we did. Yeah. We did pretty well for only 24 hours of feeds or less than that. Yeah. Um, so that's it. That's it for the stock watch this week. Of course, uh, you can head over to reality stock watch.com to play along at home. If you want to buy and sell shares of the stock, uh, I doubt it will be ready, uh, immediately. So stay tuned. Uh, also fair warning this season.

[02:12:40] Uh, the website is, is, uh, a little, uh, held up by scotch tape and, uh, chewing gum. Um, so, um, we may or may not be able to, uh, to finish out the season. Just be prepared for that. Uh, we are going to do our best, uh, as we try to put it together. You probably have noticed before that there have been plenty of glitches along the way. So, uh, we're doing our best.

[02:13:09] Uh, we hope to, uh, to, to continue to make sure it works, but, um, just please don't be too mad if it breaks. Um, so, uh, anyway, that is what we have for you. If, if somehow this is your first, uh, podcast of the season that you're listening to for big brother and you haven't heard, I wrote a book called behind the mirror, uh, that I just announced.

[02:13:38] It is that now available for pre-order. You can order it now, get a signed copy, uh, from a local bookstore here in San Diego or anywhere else that you order books from. Uh, it's, uh, I'm very excited about it. Check it out. And I very much appreciate it if you do, uh, make sure you also head over to my YouTube or Twitch if you want to see me stream. I'm currently live as we speak.

[02:14:02] Uh, although, um, if you're listening to this after the fact, I will likely have ended the 24 hour stream as there is, uh, not much left of it to go. Um, and, uh, I also have a Patreon where I'm, I'm doing some, uh, devil's plan and genius game reactions, uh, over the weekend. Which are very fun. So check all of that stuff out. Uh, Melissa, you up to anything fun? Just this, uh, the stock watch.

[02:14:29] And then you can find me on all social media at it's Melissa with three A's. Breathe them. Uh, how about you? Blue Sky and, uh, Instagram, actually not all social media anymore. How about you, Pooja? Uh, look up at Poojaism on as many of them and see if I'm there, if I'm there, pull up. Uh, but then other than that, check me out on Twitch as well. Twitch.tv slash Pooja. We had a fun time last week. We made a bingo card for the premiere.

[02:14:58] Uh, we will be making bingo card for the feeds and this, uh, live eviction on Thursday. I'm planning on going live prior to the show. So come check me out there. Um, also check out the lounge with me and Liana. We have a fun time there. She got to meet the cast for the first time on that pod. So make sure you check that out. And otherwise I'm also talking 90 day fiance. So find that if you're into those types of shows. Chaos. All right. Well, thank you all once again for joining us here on the round table podcast.

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