BB26 Why ___ Lost Week 7 | Big Brother 26

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You blame yourself and got voted out.

[00:00:03] [SPEAKER_01]: This is why blank locks.

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[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to Why ____ Lost for Big Brother 26.

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm David Bloomberg, and I have to admit I'm somewhat surprised

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_03]: to be talking about Joseph this week instead of chemo.

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll get into that more later in a bit.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But first, welcome back to my co-host.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: The word sensational comes to mind.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Ovi Kabir, who is done traveling for now.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: For now.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, David.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I've been in and out this season, but I'm here to stay

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm going to cover every single thing because this season

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: just keeps getting more interesting, interesting.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I can follow along while I'm traveling, but I can't.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I was as surprised as many of you probably watching, including

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: David when Joseph went home, but that's why we're here to

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: talk about why it happened.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So I do want to thank Cliff again for filling in and he got

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_03]: to discuss Tucker.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: He did.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He did a good job of it.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I know that was he's been waiting for that moment.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He has his own platform and talk about it too, but I think you

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and him while listening going back and forth about that entire

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_00]: episode. He had a good time.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, as you know, as we both mentioned, we were surprised

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph got evicted.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I went into Thursday afternoon or rather after after live

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: feeds cut off.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I was going into the episode thinking, you know, it was possible

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe even likely.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, probably I would say that he'd get the boot if chemo

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: won the AI arena.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But then when Julie posted a preview of the comp on Instagram,

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I figured Rubino would win, but she did and then chemo would

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_03]: be voted out.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I was half right when McKenzie went to vote and had that long

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: pause before finally saying Joseph's name.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I knew it was over for him at that moment.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But until then I thought he was safe.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I was operating in my head based on the idea that he was

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_03]: sick.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think this week is people maybe watch back or episode

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: only watchers.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You might feel a little left out on certain details that we're

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: going to talk about because I think a lot of people are missing

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: from the edit from the conversations that were happening.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Even post interviews.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: We learned more things from Joseph about why he exactly went

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: home, but it was interesting because this season we've talked

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: about how there's so many people who are lying with one another

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: that's fluid and I think last night showed that perfectly.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, despite me thinking Joseph was safe.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_03]: There were definitely some clear reasons.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: He was voted out as we saw, especially this week, but even

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: going back to the start of the game and while Quinn was certainly

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_03]: part of the reason just nominating Joseph doesn't provide

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: anywhere near the full explanation to figure that out.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll follow our usual path of comparing how he played to my

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_03]: rules for winning which I originally wrote 20 years ago in

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: 2004 and have modified ever since will analyze his actions using

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_03]: what we saw on TV live feeds interviews and other information.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course the most recent version of the rules is that Rob

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_03]: has website.com slash Big Brother rules.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Now we generally have some other things to discuss about the

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: week and this is no exception.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to start by focusing on the Leah Quinn Joseph triangle

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and actually I guess mostly just on the first two sides of that

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_03]: triangle since we'll talk plenty about Joseph later.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But the way Leah truly did have Quinn and Joseph wrapped around

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: her little finger is just incredible, especially since I don't

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: really think that was her original intent and she just kind of

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: stumbled into it much like she stumbled in through the first

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_03]: half of the game without really playing the game or knowing

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: what was going on.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But it also helped that they threw themselves at her and she

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: started to realize the kind of power that came with being

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: the center of attention.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: She knew she could do just about anything and they would forgive

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: her.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So I just hope when she gets out of the house, she uses these

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: powers on men for good never for evil.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I do appreciate too much blame on Leah for manipulating the men

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: when they're throwing themselves off like penguins jumping off

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: a bridge.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't even think she utilized the power.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: She had over them probably the most correct way because basically

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: one of the person who self-professed that he would take her to

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: the final two essentially no matter what she did.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: She said packing in a way.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: She was a catalyst for that.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no it was I think I appreciate that they both realized

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn and Joseph.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, yeah, Lee is really not into us because as they

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: said in the confessionals, I feel like it would got worse and

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: worse if they were under the delusion that she was but yeah,

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean they were ready to be her sword and shield and Leah.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like she is drifted through the game maneuvered it

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: in certain ways like you said, but maybe maybe there's a bigger

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: plan to it.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe she doesn't want to use that power for that.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe she wants to use her power to manipulate for good.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Not that well, the one power she did use was the power of veto

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and like you mentioned the fact that she had Joseph in her

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: pocket was one big reason.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_03]: She shouldn't have she knew Quinn would potentially maybe even

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: likely nominate Joseph though.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: She would later claim she forgot that yeah minor detail who can

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: remember things like that Quinn obviously should have known better

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_03]: than to make such a nomination but Leah should have as well probably

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: more so since Joseph was more important to her game than to

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn's and you know, we heard her say she thought Angela would

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_03]: be loyal to her and so on but come on, you know who else thought

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_03]: that Tucker has she not seen how Angela has played literally this

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_03]: whole game.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You cannot rely on that.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You cannot reign in the crazy, you know, I miss last I wasn't

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: able to be here to talk about it, but I'm still not throw too

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Much back to but level of frustration with Angela that I feel

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: like we're in Angela.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_00]: This is Angela's world and we're just living in it that the feeling

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I felt for Tucker, you know, I don't think we are living in Angela's

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: world.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's a whole different world, but she has her own gravitation

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: for you think she should there's going to be some sort of judgment.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be some form of this come up.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's of all the things Angela's done within the game that she's

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to see it, you know, no.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So how it works for her when it shouldn't and it has this tougher

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: thing specifically last week when I was watching and see how basically

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: she didn't believe a single thing Tucker was saying when he was the

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: only one basically trying to go for bath for her and I just don't

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: know what we was thinking that this is the woman that's going to

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: give her a vote in jury.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: No, this is the woman who's going to get her out during jury.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but really I do think there was a more important reason that

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah used the veto whether she realized it or not on Thursday's

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_03]: episode.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah said that having a little power felt awesome because remember

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: she really hasn't had it and I think that in her mind consciously

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_03]: or subconsciously she figured what's the point of finally winning

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: power if you don't use it and she later even said I'm kind of sick

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_03]: of being at everyone's mercy and then that she wanted to make some

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_03]: big moves the power the ability to do something.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I think just went to her head.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: No, definitely David.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a good point you bring up and I think one thing that

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_00]: some players and house kids forget that there's a level of power

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: and withholding in action without doing something, you know, she

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: has ability in her hands to do something with it, but deciding

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: hey, there's a better course of action and then utilize that action

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: of not doing something that better further her game.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean really she had the perfect map going forward saying hey, I

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: don't want to utilize this.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't upset your teammates show that you can win something.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean is truly this is like a 3-1 loss right?

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They had a league.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They had such a big lead going into this right here and this somehow

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, it's lost it.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Well switching topics a bit one other thing I want to mention is

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: something we see often in Big Brother, which is hypocrisy in this

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_03]: case specifically coming from T-Core because she was so mad at

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn for his nominations and sure I understand nobody wants to see

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: their allies on the block, but she acted like she had been so loyal

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: to him.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_03]: How could he do this apparently forgetting when she and Kimo flip

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_03]: the vote against him without alerting him the last time he was

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_03]: HOH.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a trend this entire season.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We see a lot of other season with this team and specifically they

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: love putting their allies on the block.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're an ally and you know that your friend or your person in

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_00]: the house is on like HOH just got to expect the season you're going

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: up as a pawn, but these three nominations would be arena every

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: week somebody who probably shouldn't be on the block is on the

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: block.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what the surprise is here because when T-Core is

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: my winner pick two she did the exact same thing last week.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and like I said, you know, and the you know on the live feed

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_03]: she even was complaining to Kimo at one point.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like hypocrisy and I'm like, well then don't look in the

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: mirror and I know lots of players on Big Brother are hypocritical.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I really enjoy Joseph coming out and when Julie was like, are you

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_03]: upset?

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, no, if I were upset that would be totally hypocritical.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been playing the game.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Why should I be upset?

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Love that because we so rarely get it but and you know, that was

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_03]: a perfect example with T-Core.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, those were just a couple aspects of things that happened

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and I do have to say it was a fun week.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So I just want to follow up on something that Cliff and I talked

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: about last week, which was that everything that happened in the

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_03]: past, you know, seven days including the surprising outcome are

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: good examples of why I said that Tucker leaving did not mean the

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: end of the season for all those people going.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, woe is me.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, the season's over.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not going to watch anymore still plenty of entertainment.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No, exactly.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I think for people they feel that can show keep in mind.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: There's so many house guests on this every season 16 people that

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: you have to divvy out spotlight to when you have big personalities

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: which they do cast typically big personalities.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You can only showcase with some of them and some spot up to be a

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: little bigger personalities and others.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Tucker was one of them but when with his removal, we now get to

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: see the other house gets get to shine.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's kind of fun thing.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I like, you know, anybody who's watched Game of Thrones.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: We know one of our one of our favorite characters goes out.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a power vacuum and we love to see them fight for more

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: power.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's exactly what's happening.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, do you have anything or anyone you want to discuss before

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: we move to our regular segment and then the rules, you know, I

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: wanted to talk about Angela and I feel like we've already got to

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: speak about just the level of each week.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: She surprises me in such a way that I I don't know what goes through

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: her head and this is this the whole Joseph conversation with her

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and then her feeling the smudginess of him now having to go back

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and apologize for just killed me just killed me because she never

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: learns from any of these conversations because she never nothing

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: bad happened.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no consequences to render to have to learn differently.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was funny enough the first time it happened with like

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Matt the first week where we see how kind of have this level

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: of hypocrisy week in a week out as much as I enjoy her character.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It is getting I want to see at this point, maybe just some consequences

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: of her own bad gameplay come back to her.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's my only last thing.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I know there's a lot of Angela lovers.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't dislike Angela.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I really think she's fun to watch but also I think if any other

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Player was perpetuating level behavior of just kind of going at

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: every of her ally or teammate in Big Brother.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We would just we don't think go out of that.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's go to our usual Julie Chen Moonves is wrong about blank

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_03]: segment and this week we have another situation where she was

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: interviewed by Entertainment Weekly and they asked her if Leah made

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_03]: the right call taking Angela off the block with the veto now, we

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: just answered.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So what did Julie said?

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: She said yes because she acted with her heart and when you act

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_03]: with your heart, it can't be wrong dad.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: No wrong it in fact that is wrong acting with your heart in the

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_03]: game of Big Brother is often very wrong.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It literally violates one of my rules does.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: We already discussed why was the wrong decision for Leah and then

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_03]: on top of that in response to another question in the same interview

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Julie said players have to quote do what is right for you always.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's a contradiction because that was not right for Leah.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: She may have thought it was she probably she did think it was but

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: it wasn't objectively right for her.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So no Julie stop it and and again stop asking me.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess keep asking Julie these questions because it gives us, you

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: know fodder for this for this segment, but the idea that Julie has

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: any idea how to play the game is just constantly amusing to me.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's propaganda at this point.

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to believe I don't even know if she believes what she's saying

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: here.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean the Big Brother slash bigger hearts, you know, like this is

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: a new show.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: She creates I just at this point.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not I'm unsure of stardust feeding this information so that we

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: have content here because they love this segment so much.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They need it.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: They Ovi and David need this segment.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so let's give them something.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Well before we get to the rules, I do want to mention of course that

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_03]: a survivor version of the rules comes in a shorter and more colorful

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_03]: version in poster form.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_03]: You can go to rob his website.com slash YX lost feed scroll down to

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_03]: the poster click on it and order it get it now and hopefully you'll

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_03]: have it in time for the new survivor season to start.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You can also scroll down and get the poster on a t-shirt or the poster.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry or the checklist on a t-shirt the checklist of course closest

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: to the Big Brother rules not exact but close.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So again go to Rob has website.com slash YX lost feed and you'll be

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: styling Joseph told Julie immediately after being evicted that he thought

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_03]: it was possibly because the other saw him as more of a threat than

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: chemo.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he was good with everyone.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He said in interviews later that he attributed his loss to a little

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: bit of hubris and a little bit of his allies being stupid.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Did he hit the mark in any of his ideas of what went wrong for him

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_03]: or did he miss the big picture?

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll give you a hint.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and yes, we'll get it all sorted out as we figure out.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Why Joseph lost the first and most important rule is to scheme and

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: plot players like Brooklyn and Chelsea had very strong beliefs that

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph just sat around all day and didn't do this at all.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But they're wrong.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact is that Joseph was indeed strategizing and playing hard.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He was just doing it in a way that purposely kept it secret from certain

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: people like Brooklyn and Chelsea and I also have to say it was kept

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: secret from a lot of the TV viewers as well because I still have people

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_03]: commenting like you're wrong.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He did nothing on some of my tick-tock videos.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like no, you just didn't see it.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He discussed on his live feeds or on live feeds how his plan was to

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: separate himself from people so it wouldn't look like he was doing

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: anything and incidentally also to help preserve some of his sanity,

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_03]: but mostly for strategic reasons.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile, he positioned himself early with both the anti-Tucker

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_03]: side of the collective which he insisted he'd creative and created

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and certainly kept pushing but also he was with Tucker himself the

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: latter purposely in case Tucker went on a comp run and gained power

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: in the house.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Lo and behold, that's what happened.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So Joseph became Tucker's closest ally at least until you know Rubina,

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_03]: but from a strategic standpoint Joseph was often in his ear trying

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: to guide things while also protecting some of his other allies like

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a good position to be in at least for a while.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Very much so.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think Joseph's really secured a good position where we

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: see a lot of people play the middle but he was able to do so where

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: he could go back and forth.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Now the issue when you play that middle is what we saw with Joseph's

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_00]: game is that yes, you have allies in both sides, but the allies on

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: either side can kind of tanker games which we kind of saw.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean he's skiing the pond through it.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a bit of a disservice sometimes to edit into his game

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: where it's likened him to Leah a little bit where they showcases.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're just floating through the game and that's what he wanted

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: to relate to Leah as well.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_00]: She believed in many others like to even though he was having a

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: concerted effort again.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We always talk about some players forget this games of Marathon

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: not a sprint Joseph's knew that and I think we would have seen his

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: game transformed just a little bit later when he would get into

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: jury phase, which he also did mention that that was part of his

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_00]: plans that you know, typically if this was a normal Big Brother

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_00]: season, he would have been in jury.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Now one area where Joseph got a bit too enamored of his plan was

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_03]: that he actually believed he could beat Tucker if they made it to

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_03]: final two.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_03]: He did say in his interviews that he didn't think Tucker would make

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_03]: it all the way just because of the threat he posed but he maintained

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: that he thought he could win because people didn't like how Tucker

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_03]: treated some others like quit.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's all well and good, but I'm telling you it wouldn't matter

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker would almost have certainly had to improve his own game to

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_03]: make it that far.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So as long as he didn't continue attacking people in that way.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It would have been, you know, left in the rearview mirror.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile, if he had actually made it the feet would have been so

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_03]: impressive for a big threat to make it all the way through.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_03]: There's just no way Joseph was going to overcome it.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, of course it didn't happen anyway, but I at least wanted to

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_03]: mention it.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it's a good point because it's so much when you're in

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: the Big Brother house.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You're a worm inside a rotten apple and you can't see the rotten

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: apple from the outside.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So you have no idea of different perspectives.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And so this is one of those things that I like in that one.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph has a little bit more time out of the house can understand

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: probably understand it.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's no nothing personal against him.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's against anybody else.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably no one would have compared against Tucker in the final two

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_00]: from his ability to do whatever he was doing.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I think some people might overestimate in the moment where one

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: comment or two comments might rub somebody the wrong way.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I could even see Queen voting for Tucker at the end of he made that

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: far, but I think again, it's one of those things.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You're also in a phase of trying to convince yourself what you can

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: do and you have, you know, to justify to keep somebody I can still

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: beat them.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I can stay here there.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, if there's one thing, I mean, I also think Joseph did

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: except in his folly was that maybe a little overconfidence in this

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: stuff, but within the scheming applying, he kept going.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: That was part of it.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't diss him for that being part of his plans.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just maybe a bad evaluation of his final judgment.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Now after Tucker was evicted last week, Joseph quickly went to work

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: on Quinn talking about how well that was better for him anyway, you

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_03]: know, and indeed it should have been.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_03]: He had Quinn the HOH on his side.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_03]: He had Leah the veto winner on his side.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_03]: He should have been set this week.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is where some stupid decisions of his allies come into

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_03]: play. I have previously shouted to the Hilltops don't volunteer

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_03]: to go on the block.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess I should have added and don't put your allies on the

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_03]: block.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You might think Quinn would have learned this when Cedric was

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_03]: evicted, but no.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's I mean, you know, Quinn is your winner pick and I think

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: there's a small joy I get every time I see you'll see one of

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn's like plans just fall apart and it's become so comical.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I only coyote at this point.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's impressive how some of these house just don't learn

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: from their mistakes.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean again, I understand you need three people up there, but

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_00]: somebody mad at you is much better than your like your ally,

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: especially with smaller numbers going home, especially your

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: ally going home before jury.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: These are the numbers you want to have there.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Leah had a certain, you know, I I don't hate the plan in her mind.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: She wants somebody in jury that will vote for her and keep her

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: there.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't love the execution of it because the thing is Joseph

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: was at for her exactly.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: She had the right idea what she needed to do, but the wrong

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: explanation.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_03]: All right now getting back to Joseph's actual play and away

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_03]: from his allies play.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: There were other times throughout the game that he showed he

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: knew what he was doing like when he absolutely refused to be

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_03]: a pawn for Cedric when he was looking for one.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And how he pegged Chelsea as a threat early on because he saw

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: her such a good player.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, he did some things wrong related to that which

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: we'll get to in the second rule kind of a hint, but at least

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_03]: he was right about how dangerous she is.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_03]: He told Mike Bloom.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: He even made a last-ditch attempt shortly before the live show

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: to get her to vote to keep him by promising her safety if he

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_03]: won HOH.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately for him, the idea of him winning HOH was not

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: exactly tops on anyone's mind.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course Chelsea already had plenty of plans with other

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: people to keep herself safe.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, it made good sense for Chelsea to vote him out because

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_03]: she's in good with T-Core and therefore with Kimo and Rubina.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, she keeps her circle more intact by getting rid of

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_03]: him.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can just kind of a catch 2020 when you go through

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: the house and you kind of make yourself not be a comp beast

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: from maybe just the opposite of somebody who's just unable

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: to win any competitions.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, some of them he threw but his track record wasn't

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: too great there.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think unfortunately, you can't sell or write checks based

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_00]: on that versus somebody like Tucker.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_00]: He's on the other extreme of it.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Where at that point you're like, no, we still need to get

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_00]: you out.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But there was a fear of if they win this, would they protect

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: me or get me out?

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph just didn't have that autonomy to make that decision.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the AI arena people were watching it and going is he

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_03]: throwing this?

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_03]: No, he just was was that bad at it.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It was moving slow.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: My brother was moving.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So that mustache weighed him down.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He was trying to get around that rope and just

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: now, of course the people Joseph really should have been

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_03]: pushing not Chelsea, but Quinn and Leah.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_03]: As he told Julie, but he didn't he did not believe Leah was

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_03]: going to use the veto and didn't want to push too hard because

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: he felt it could cause an opposite reaction.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Now.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if he could have gotten Leah or Quinn to change

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_03]: their minds.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_03]: We've already discussed, you know, Leah's motivation, but

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_03]: he's certainly right that he should have tried harder.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn even talks about how he banged on his knees for Leah

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: to make it Joseph had a conversation, but I just don't think

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: any of them were truly.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I think in those type of things they have you have to be a

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: little bit more serious to get it through your teammates mind

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: your house is allied to be like, hey, you do this.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: This changes our relationship in a way because I don't think

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: she understood the ramifications or also just like.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It more so like, oh, if it happens, it happens like they're

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: not going to be super mad at me.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And they also said that even after the fact that we can't

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: pull anything against Leah, right?

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that was the downfall of the somebody knows he

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: can get away with.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I just don't think they realize they didn't have

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: a good read of the house of what would happen, you know?

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we can move on to the second rule which says not to

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_03]: scheme and plot too much and to keep your scheming secret.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph managed to do a great job of this in the earlier

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_03]: part of the season as we discussed in the first rule and

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: then completely blow it over the course of the past week

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_03]: because once Tucker was gone, he started telling everybody

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_03]: everything about his game.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Including a lot of things that should have been the inside

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: force.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Part of the reason he was saying so much was as he told

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn on live feeds.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: He realized that other players thought he'd been doing nothing

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_03]: and he needed to set himself up for the end game by explaining

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_03]: what he'd done in case he made it to final two.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_03]: But in his interviews, he also said he just wanted to be

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_03]: honest with people for various reasons and thought it would

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_03]: help to get them to trust him.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But no, it made things worse, not better.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Part of it was that people, much like we did, people there

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: thought he was nuts to say he thought he could have beaten

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker at the end.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But more importantly was the fact of admitting he had a final

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_03]: two with the guy they just voted out.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We can and should blame Quinn for putting Joseph on the block.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_03]: We also have to recognize that being hooked to Tucker and

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_03]: voting to keep him is what earned Joseph that position, according

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_03]: to the logic that Quinn used.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I would argue almost at this rule, maybe with seven two, we'll

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: talk about don't trust anybody.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But this one is what really sent Joseph home and I liken it

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: to when I was watching everything keeping up with him.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_00]: This is how I like.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of want a super villain at the end, you know, James

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: wants to go.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They have to tell their plan.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: They have to sell it all.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't just, you know, finish the job, take the hero out or

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: do what you have to have a full on monologue and talk about why

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: you've done it.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He had this with Mackenzie.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently he had this with Chelsea.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He had this with Angela.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't need to tell them what he thinks about them.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I know like he tried to like me that he wanted Chelsea when he

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: had a conversation with her about she felt scared that she's

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: a bit of a too much of a threat.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: He want to say no, I'm we can bond right or both threats here.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: My game is better than yours.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So don't be worried, you know, and I understand.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The intention behind it.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he was just a little bored and wine to like you said,

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: he wanted to make sure people understood that he was a power

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: play a little too early than he needed to be because telling

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Angela all that and having to go grovel back and just to give

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: context is when him and Angela sat down.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: She was in the seat of fire being the victim potentially and

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: she was basically like, yeah, your game is done.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's dead.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just enjoy it while you can.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think he just kept on going so hard about those

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: type of conversation that really sunk his social game Greek

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: neck with those players.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and see that's the key you say that, you know, this

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: rule and seven are going to be the keys.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I say it's rule five, but it's still the same thing.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a matter.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I had an internal debate, you know, we didn't rule two or rule

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_03]: five and I decided on rule five.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Which will get out when we get there, but the thing is, you

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: know, everything you said is absolutely true and it wasn't

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: the only way he overplayed because many people saw him as a

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_03]: snake, which was Quinn's word or at least as someone they

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_03]: couldn't trust.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And this went back to Tucker telling Joseph that everyone

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: in their six was skeptical of him.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He thought he had this solid base, but he never really did.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And that includes some of the people that you mentioned like

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Mackenzie.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: He told Mike Bloom that her vote against him surprised him

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_03]: because she and chemo never talk game.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But the funny thing to me is he answered his own question

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_03]: because he said I was the one person who maybe talked game

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_03]: with Mackenzie the most in the house.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I would want to go to the end with her because she didn't

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_03]: start playing the game till day 45.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So he told her he didn't think she played well.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: She knew therefore or concluded that she would never get his

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_03]: vote at the end if she made final two and he wasn't up against

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: her. By being overly honest with her about how he viewed her

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_03]: game.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: He just told her way too much.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's kind of like when you have a mentor in any

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: capacity, whether it's like you're learning how to do a sport

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: or you're learning how, you know, you have an older brother

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: teach you how to play chess or swim, whatever.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to tell you like critique and be like, this is

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: why you're doing this badly.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why you need to improve not the game brother.

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Give big brother.

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to do that because then they see you as just

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_00]: basically not valuing your game and realizing.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they look at me as a weak point.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like do you think they can always be in some cases?

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Some players want to keep that person around surprise him

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: at the end.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody like Mackenzie.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: She sees as a direct threat.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I think also for Chelsea, I think.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this was intentional.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say anything from Joseph in this sense of

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that when I think within the overplay, I think there was

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: a common theme with many of the women in the house who felt

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: like Joseph might think that he can beat them and he can

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: convey that to them.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that unfortunately was him having a level of

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: hubris but also overplaying what he need to do at that.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like you're playing poker and you're saying

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: to the guy ahead of you.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, by the way, you have a tell every time you're bluffing.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you're bluffing because your eyes and they're like

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_03]: they're going to be like, okay, now I know how to beat you,

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, because I've actually had when I was playing.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I actually had someone tell me not in the middle of a game

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and they were friend, but they were like, hey, some of these

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: people here know or believe that they have a tell on you.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, I started to use that, you know, they go.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you puff your cheeks out when you do this.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay, I'll start using that to my advantage.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But you don't want to be the one in the middle of the game

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_03]: telling your opponent that.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: No, most definitely.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it just comes off.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, it's so cocky in the moment and the issue I

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: had with this with Joseph, he positioned himself in a game

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: where he could play under the radar and be on both sides

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and never call attention to himself.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't need to do that.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he sent a radar flare.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's just like.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And it shoots out each of the flares.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, why, Joseph?

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You've done this so well.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You've been under the cover.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you doing this, Joseph?

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: No, let me stay.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That's my double flare gun for Joseph as he shoots him out.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Very passionate about how frustrated I am with how he played

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: this last week.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He's playing really well.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the third rule talks about the need to be flexible.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, you often talk about how people need to be tested

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_03]: in order to truly see if they can adapt and follow this one.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I do think Joseph was tested a couple times.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So how do you think he did here?

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't love how he was.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's tough.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that initially before this week, I liked his flexibility

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_00]: of how he's trying to be, you know, I also think he put his

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_00]: foot down when he was pushed where like trying not to go on

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_00]: the block during centric week when he was going up other

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_00]: situations this week.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_00]: We did see him have a flexibility where he was put on the

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: block, right?

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he tried to go back to Angela talk her about it

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: everything.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I do think unfortunately, though, he still didn't think he

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_00]: would be going home.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he did enough in the situation that I mean,

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: again, I don't know how much to put the blame on him or just

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: around because you and I were confused.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the rest of the house was kind of confused about

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: like who would go home truly.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if it was a lack of flexibility this week

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: that really sent him hook packing or was more so of not

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: evaluating the, you know, surrounding of the people around

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: him because I do think he did play better flexibility wise

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: when he was put on the block, but I think I guess this is

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: a weird way to say, but I think he might have been a little

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_00]: too flexible this week.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And by that, I mean that he didn't push against Leah enough

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: or when he was there, he kind of like held her hand and

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: was like, this is okay.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, Quinn.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to talk good.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm gonna talk bad about you behind your back in the

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_00]: DR, but I'm not going to let it be okay out here.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder if he was just a little bit more stern about

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it. That makes it like put the fire under his allies, you

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_00]: know, but said like, hey, I need you here to help me stay

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: here. Let's rally and maybe a little too nonchalant.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: What are your thoughts, David?

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we talked earlier about how Joseph started out

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_03]: leaning towards Quinn side and against Tucker, but he always

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_03]: stayed close to Tucker in case he gained power.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And when that happened, he more clearly threw in his lot

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_03]: with Tucker while also staying close to Quinn and protecting

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_03]: him. And then he went back to Quinn when Tucker was gone.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I will say, I think Joseph did a pretty good job of protecting

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn from Tucker by convincing him that Quinn wasn't a

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_03]: threat and all that while also making sure not to push his

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: views so hard that Tucker would realize what he was doing.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just that once Tucker left, Joseph wasn't able to

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_03]: translate that to working with the other players.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_03]: He was protecting them, but didn't basically get protected

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_03]: in turn.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think we saw a lot of his gameplay really.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The word relies.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that because I don't think it truly relied, but

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was based on the strategy that Tucker would be around

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and he had a strong field around him as he played that middle.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Again, this is one of those weeks where like if something

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: went slightly wrong, maybe Joseph wouldn't have gone home.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he would have found a way to stay here.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, we're saying this almost every other week.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: We're like, man, everything had to go right for this person

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: to be like Cedric's week.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We're like, yeah, everything had to go wrong for Cedric to

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: go home.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's just that extent for Joseph.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: At the same time.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think because of this rule of his flexibility put him

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: on the seat of fire.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_00]: If anything, this is allies in flexibility.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, then we can move on to the fourth rule which says players

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_03]: should not let their emotions control them despite what Julie

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_03]: says. Joseph came into the game knowing he needed to follow

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_03]: this rule.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: He just didn't understand quite how much he told Entertainment

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Weekly that as time went by, he realized, quote, you literally

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_03]: have to be a sociopath to play this game in a way that's supposed

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_03]: to be played because you really do have to compartmentalize.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm not saying it's good to be a sociopath, but he's

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_03]: right about compartmentalizing your emotions compared to game

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_03]: decisions.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it's a very tough thing.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I think most people probably struggle with that in a lot of

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_00]: ways. I think unfortunately he was good in a lot of ways there

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that you know, he was able to kind of show his emotions when

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: you need to make connections there and not like control him.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, though.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the main I would say point of him feeling on this rule

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: was the Leah issue.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he did fall hard for Leah as did Quinn with this little

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: love triangle.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: They all had again probably level of infatuation is perfectly

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: fine.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that impacted his game style, his game plan as

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: we move forward in this week.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we saw him not take strong enough stance to make sure

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Liam didn't put him up there and even elsewise.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't really try to work hard enough to ensure that Liam

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and other people around him would have his back as much and

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's because of this whole, you know situation.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wouldn't have guessed Angela would have voted to

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: keep him here, but she did and I wonder what exactly all around

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: whether knowing that Leah took her off Leah's connected to

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that was some shape or form.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_03]: She just did it because she thought that the house was voting

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_03]: that way and she and the funny thing is even if like Mackenzie

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_03]: had not change apparently changed her mind.

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Angela could have been the deciding factor, you know,

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_03]: and so she just thought there was no chance that her vote wasn't

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: going to matter.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: But but yeah, you know, you mentioned the Leah factor and Joseph

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_03]: told us it.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he told himself slash us in a camera talk that he was

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: supposed to be a robot with no emotions and the problem was

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: that same talk about, you know, it was mostly about how he had

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: a crush on Leah and he disgusted himself because he was going

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_03]: against his own thoughts.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I know there was a mini debate on the most recent stock

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_03]: watch podcast about whether you can just turn off a crush.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But to my mind, it's not about having a crush or turning it

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_03]: off. It's about knowing.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a crush on this person.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm putting it aside to ensure that I'm doing what's best

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_03]: for my game and it's it's one thing to like someone but it's

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_03]: another to change your game because you like them and we had

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_03]: a whole segment that we talked about earlier on Thursday's

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_03]: episode about how Leah could basically manipulate Joseph

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: and Quinn because they both have crushes on even when her

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_03]: actions caused the chain of events leading to Joseph being

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_03]: nominated.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Both of them refused to tell her that they were upset at her

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and I suspect that it was part of the reason Joseph wasn't

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_03]: more forceful in telling her she shouldn't use the veto to

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_03]: begin with instead.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He was busy telling her things like I mean everything I tell

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_03]: you when I tell you that you're my favorite person here and

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_03]: he previously told her he spent a lot of time thinking about

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_03]: how to keep her safe.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Clearly she didn't spend any time doing the same for him.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It just hurts hearing all that you're repeating it all again

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's just like most things don't look back and be

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_00]: like damn I really was just like missed it there.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think a good example of it, you know, I think again

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_00]: like you mentioned that I want to read her that you can have

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_00]: a crush in the house.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just how it controls you.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I really felt like Tucker and Rubina did a good way

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: of especially Tucker navigating his feelings for Rubina and

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_00]: not really letting it impact this game so much.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So or even he was trying to talk to Angela or saying it whether

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: it was truly true or not.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He was willing to have those conversations and be like, hey,

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I made a commitment to you.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to work with you and we can't say for sure.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He probably may pick Rubina at the end, but he was able

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: to, you know, compartmentalize and put his actual game logic

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_00]: forward.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, Joseph had a blind eye for Leah.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the fifth rule says players need to pretend to be nice

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_03]: and play the social game.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And as I mentioned earlier, Joseph believed he was good

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_03]: socially with everyone and he talked about a lot but saying

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_03]: it doesn't make it so much like I mentioned last week about

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela telling everyone she'd gotten to know them on a personal

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_03]: level. If you have to tell them that you've gotten to know

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_03]: them on a personal level, you haven't, you know, same thing

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_03]: with the social game.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_03]: If you have to tell everyone you have a good social game,

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: you don't.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But worse than that was the way Joseph told everyone what

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_03]: he thought about their games as well as his own.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Now we talked about the sum already and like I said, you know,

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_03]: you've got this whole rule two rule five thing going on here.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to focus on it more here because it really impacted

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_03]: what other players thought of him on a social level and

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_03]: they were getting annoyed with hearing about how great his

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: game was and what flaws he saw in the others.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been pointed out by more than a few people that it's

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_03]: funny how Joseph was probably liked more by the other players

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_03]: when he was separating himself from them and not really talking

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_03]: to them compared to when he started interacting with them

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_03]: more.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, one of those things that I will still think that

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_00]: exaggerated and like was a catalyst for them feeling this

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_00]: way was basically is one thing to have, you know, a mid-par

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: social game.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even saying he had a subpar social game.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm more so he told other people they had a subpar social

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: game and that really that's the quickest way from going to

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: hundred to zero to where somebody can be like, I actually

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_00]: don't like you.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you insults?

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the little different insult when you're like, I think

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_00]: you're doing this wrong this game part versus saying like

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: your social game kind of sucks.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You're dead in the water.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That's going to make somebody evoke certain feelings out of

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: them. And I think again, we know from his conversations.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was super elite.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It was an intent.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It was intended in a positive manner.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He was trying not to you know, I wanted to really truly help

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_00]: him out from his POV.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Worst thing he could have done worse than you.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean in just a few examples of things that the players said

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Rubina told T-Core that Joseph made her feel small and T-Core

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_03]: replied Joseph made everybody feel small.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph told McKenzie.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: He only saw her as a threat at physical comps not as a threat

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: for the entire game.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Now in his interviews, he said he was just trying to make

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_03]: her worry less that others saw her as a threat that they

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_03]: wanted to take out.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But he also said his conversation where he told Angela she

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_03]: had no shot was more nuanced.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe in his own mind.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't as blunt as he came across.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But it often was not perceived that way by people on the

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_03]: receiving end.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Another example was Quinn talking about how Joseph constantly

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_03]: saying he was the better player bothered him again in Joseph's

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_03]: mind.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_03]: He was joking around not so much in Quinn's cam set on the

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_03]: live feeds shortly after the eviction that he knew Joseph

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_03]: had been rubbing people the wrong way.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: All of these things tended to pile up and make people feel

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_03]: less concerned about voting him out.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like we lose him.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're not they're not fighting to keep him like

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_03]: people were fighting to keep Rubina and keep.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think the issue was it wasn't like one person

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_00]: or maybe two people that he had these bad conversations

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: with those individuals that every single person around the

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_00]: board he was and that's the thing is that he could do

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: 90% good with them have great conversation.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But those 10% of those conversations where he is talking

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_00]: about their social game or talking about how they need a

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: better game or his game is better than theirs will stick

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: with them and it did and it really just kind of it was

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_00]: just so unneeded.

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I think it was one of those things where it

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_00]: becomes a tipping factor, right?

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't so bad that immediately they're like put him on

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the block.

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's use it.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it something that kept growing that I think is a worrisome

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_00]: what we always talk about is which will transition into

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_00]: soon is like when you become a target into it adds to that

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_03]: right now Joseph also admitted to some hubris in the final

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_03]: week, which I think is a bit of an understatement.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Others might say his ego was out of control while he thought

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_03]: he was safe again.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a matter of perspective.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I really don't think Joseph realized how he was coming across

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_03]: to people.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know it's this is one of the things against your

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_00]: POV is different.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if maybe can we really saw him in full effect effort

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_00]: up was gone.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know it now.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe with Tucker being there.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It was he felt that or not being there.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_00]: He felt like he needs me step up in his personality a little

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: bit more and he was maybe trying to come across more, you

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_00]: know, confident funny.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: He's there's a very big line right?

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00]: A confident funny and over-confident hubris, right?

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes it's so I'm sure and same in the in the real

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_00]: world when you do that stuff.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You're a friend of check.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You like shut up.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You're doing too much.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the people that house people are going to really check

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_00]: you too much because it's like we're not going to do that.

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We won't vote you out.

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not right.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't like right here.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So exactly.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_03]: We could go to the sixth rule which warns against being too

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_03]: much of a threat.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I mentioned earlier that Joseph believed one reason he

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: was voted out was because he was more of a threat than chemo.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that's the case?

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a tough one to say because I don't think I don't know

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_00]: if it was a natural reason what I don't think they were

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_00]: threatened.

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So level like he's going to get out, you know, I can day felt

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_00]: don't that matter chemo is probably a worse person for them

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_00]: in a way because they knew he was somewhat not allied with

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_00]: them.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_00]: He could go another way but I think Joseph's comments from

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_00]: this last thing like we made him big on Target because they

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_00]: realized why you really don't value us as much.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_00]: We're more annoyed that we want to like it's one thing.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like you have never been in a situation David.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I imagine you have it is that there might be somebody at the

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_00]: table or you have a group of friends and somebody you just

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_00]: hate absolutely hate they might make a good point.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They might be right about something because you dislike them.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to agree with them.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to hear me, right?

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to argue against them.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I think this is one of the situations that maybe some people

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_00]: would have viewed chemo actually as worse for their games in

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_00]: certain ways, but because of Joseph's behavior and it growingly

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_00]: talking about all this stuff.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So now we want to know and more than anything.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they knew exactly where Joseph sat on the fence with

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_00]: all his comments.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Chemo, there's a little bit more maybe mystery or at least

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_00]: chemo could sugarcoat it where they can believe chemo might

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_00]: work with them or value their game a little bit more when

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph made it very clear that he didn't.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a couple weeks ago.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph talked on the live feeds about how he wanted to keep

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker around as a shield because once Tucker was gone people

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_03]: would see what he was doing.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Now as we discussed earlier, some people still didn't see what

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_03]: he was doing and I really think most of the rest didn't

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_03]: particularly care.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Certainly not as much as he thought they would.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I doubt anyone believed he was the biggest threat in the game.

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course that's not why he was nominated.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_03]: We know why he was nominated but by the end it got down to

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_03]: the question of him or chemo and some commenters asked me I

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_03]: had done a immediate post eviction little tic-tac and you

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_03]: know, just to say, oh wow, I was surprised.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Some commenters asked why people would choose to get rid of

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: someone who is seen as a loner and can't win comps compared

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_03]: to someone who is more well-liked and in a solid three-person

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_03]: alliance.

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's kind of part of the answer because there were only

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_03]: four votes against him and two of those were members of that

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_03]: solid three-person alliance.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So of course, they're going to want to keep chemo.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_03]: The other two were Chelsea who as we've discussed already

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_03]: didn't have a good connection with Joseph at all and McKenzie

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_03]: who also had issues we talked about.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So as much as every player wants to believe they were voted

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_03]: out because they were a threat.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes it's just not about that.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think this one of the things is you want to tell

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_00]: yourself that too and I think in this situation, I mean you

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_00]: became a threat to some of them's their individual games as

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_00]: a whole probably not the level but at the same time, I think

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_00]: chemo's threat level is so low at the same time as an individual

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_00]: player at this point in the game.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It was so much that a feather can blow either way, right?

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And so it was what side of the house fell and like we saw

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_00]: it was a very clear very close three to four.

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Angelo might have been on the other side of things that

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_00]: she knew but very close.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't the reason why he went home.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the seventh rule says to trust almost nobody and Joseph

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_03]: certainly knew this.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_03]: The problem was as we've discussed he was often far too open

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_03]: in showing or even telling exactly who he trusted and who he

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_03]: did and then the two people he trusted most made terrible

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_03]: decisions that negatively impacted his game.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So even though they did not do it with the intention of hurting

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_03]: his game, that was the outcome.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely.

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like I said before head arguably to maybe five in this

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_00]: rule are the reasons why he went home trusting people that

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_00]: he shouldn't trusting people.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I get placing trust in the wrong people.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean Quinn has a bit of a track record that you ally with

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_00]: him or going home and way so maybe trying to hope when Queen

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_00]: wins Hoh you just stay at his side and say don't put me on

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_00]: the block no matter what.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but yeah, I mean more so it was the allies that were on

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_00]: the fence that he started how he talked to him and really just

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_00]: spill the beans.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: He did his whole monologue and we've talked about this already

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_00]: but it encompasses Joseph's game where I think Tucker wasn't

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_00]: needed there to be just a shield but it was in a game way, but

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_00]: in a social way in loud jokes if to be in the shadows a little

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_00]: bit more and something he should have stayed in as we go forward

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_00]: until he can make it.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it is about time to wrap things up.

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So what are your thoughts about Joseph?

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, I always love seeing a player who loves the

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_00]: game knows the fan.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to the game being ready to play and I think we saw

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_00]: that with Joseph.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He played the game hard and he's leaving it knowing and feeling

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_00]: that he's, you know, satisfied where he went home and I love

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_00]: that for him as if you were watching him.

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I wish we got to see a little bit more on the edit of how Joseph

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_00]: actually got through because he did have a concrete plan in

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_00]: initial parts of the game where he wanted to lay low be smart

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_00]: play that middle ground, which I think he was so good.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the issue with Joseph that sent him truly home was partially

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_00]: his infatuation with Leanne infatuation with being a big brother

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_00]: fan wanting to make these certain moves and have these clips that

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_00]: would allow him to be remembered forever.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what ended up sending him home because if

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_00]: you continue to stay consistent with the plan when he plays both

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_00]: sides stay low to the ground.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we see Joseph go a lot further overall.

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was really fun watching him play.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think what we saw fully this week the over trusting over playing

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and again, if you are a future big brother player don't go into

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_00]: a monologue of why another player's social game is bad and why

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_00]: your game is much better than them because that will never turn

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_00]: out good.

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So to start with here, I want to go back to my thoughts about

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph from the preseason.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He had said a lot of things that sounded good in theory some of

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_03]: it he accomplished like his plan to manipulate people subtly while

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_03]: the bigger personalities wipe themselves out.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_03]: He wanted to work with people who are more athletic and in different

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_03]: social groups and so that he could leech off of that and he did

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_03]: that as well.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_03]: What I was worried about was him translating these ideas to practice

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_03]: in large part because he did not give me the same instantly likable

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_03]: vibes that some of the others did in the pregame and I worried

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_03]: he would be too much of a game bot.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_03]: In retrospect, I was definitely right to be concerned about those

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_03]: last things.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't so much Joseph's gameplay that got him in trouble.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Indeed.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_03]: He did a good job with it for a big chunk of his time in the game.

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_03]: The problems were how he dealt with some of the other players

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_03]: often involving discussions of his gameplay.

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't repeatedly tell someone they're probably the best player

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_03]: in the house and not expect them to worry that means you'd snipe

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_03]: them if you had a chance.

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't tell someone they're a bad player and go to the what you

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_03]: want to go to the end with them and not expect them to take it a

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_03]: bit personally and also want you out before jury because they feel

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_03]: you would never vote for them to win.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't say things that in Rubina and T-Core's words made them

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_03]: feel small and expect that they will want to keep you around.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It may seem like it only came down to the votes of Chelsea and

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_03]: McKenzie, but if they had signaled their intentions earlier, both

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam and Angela would have happily jumped on board for many of the

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_03]: same reasons.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_03]: They just thought everyone was voting out Kimo and they didn't

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_03]: want to be left hanging the old vote with the house idea.

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's obviously true that if Leah hadn't used the veto on Angela

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_03]: and Quinn hadn't nominated Joseph, well then Joseph wouldn't have

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_03]: been evicted.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But that doesn't mean their actions, however stupid, were the main

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_03]: causes. Joseph might have had time to redeem his behavior if he

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_03]: hadn't been on the block this week, but he also might not have

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_03]: still fully realized what his behavior was like, such as the

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_03]: flippant circumstances that occurred between him and Angela.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He seemed to realize something about the way he had spoken to

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela when he was on the other side.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that he would have realized that if their positions

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_03]: hadn't changed.

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_03]: As I've said all this, I know it sounds like maybe people are listening

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and saying, oh, he really doesn't like Joseph, but actually I did.

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_03]: That's one reason I was so surprised.

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I was kind of rooting for him to stay.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I had some high hopes for him from a strategic standpoint.

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And he was doing pretty well in that regard, but players have to

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_03]: realize how they come across to everyone else in the house and I

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_03]: just don't think Joseph did and that is why Joseph lost.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Well put.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_00]: We like Joseph a lot, but we have to tell the truth.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we will have our spoiler-free predictions in a moment after

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[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, thank you.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, since Big Brother has started, you know, through the season,

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[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_03]: With that, it's prediction time.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_03]: As I mentioned, they are spoiler-free.

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So we write them up before we know the outcome, even of the HOH comp.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And Ovi and I were kind of time stamping it last night.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, okay, here's mine.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, even though this flip occurred against what Quinn and Leo wanted,

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I really don't think it was a flip against them personally.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But rather against Joseph for all the reasons we just spent the better

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_03]: part of an hour discussing.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_03]: At least from Chelsea and Mackenzie's point of view.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_03]: If T-Core, Kimo or Rubino win HOH, then yeah, Quinn's in trouble.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think that will happen.

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is Mackenzie's week to win HOH.

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And despite the fact that she just saved Kimo, I think she's going

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_03]: to turn around and put him and Rubino right back up on the block.

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it really wasn't about saving Kimo.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It was about getting rid of Joseph.

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And this time, I think Kimo will actually be leaving.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I have mine time stamped.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I have T-Core winning this.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's going to go for a second HOH of the season.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_00]: She's going to win.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the three people we're going to see up is going to be Quinn,

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Leah and Cam.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think we're going to see some trouble from them.

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Angel will take Cam's position there.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think, cross my fingers, I've predicted it many times this year,

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: but I think this might be the one week Quinn finally goes home.

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You just want to get rid of my winner prediction.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been shooting at all cylinders.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, that man just finds a way to survive and get out.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody including his allies out.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So an enemy and ally better be feared.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not Quinn.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going home.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Essentially.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how this game is.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that aside.

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[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You see and David, thank you so much.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you.

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad to have you back.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Enjoyed Cliff.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Enjoyed Corey before that, you know, glad to have you back.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, we will keep going through the season and I know things

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: will be a little more predictable perhaps without the AI arena, but

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: there's also, you know, only what nine house guests left.

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, you can't be nominating a third or more if there's a

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: renom of the people there.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So had to go was the right time maybe a little earlier, but it was at

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_03]: least now it was the right time and we will see what happens from here.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But we will be right back here in a week.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I will talk to everyone then.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Bye.

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