BB26 Why ___ Lost Week 5 | Big Brother 26

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You blame yourself and got voted out This is why blank lost

[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is why blank lost Oh baby this is why blank lost

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to Why blank lost for Big Brother 26. I'm David Bloomberg and I have to admit that I

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_02]: really don't get the whole concept of charcuterie. I mean it's just little slices of meat and

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard it described as lunchables for adults. Maybe my younger co-host Ovi Kabir can explain it

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to me. David you're asking the right person because I love food, I love cheese and Hannah

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: my fiance she loves anything in bite size so charcuterie is up our alley. It's a shame you

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: haven't got any idea. I think a lot of our viewers will probably attest that charcuterie

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: is the wave so we're gonna have to send David something to try something shortly.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay all right or I could just steal Angela's. I mean that's the other that's the other option.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly what did you have on your bingo list that we would be a you know cold opener with

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: charcuterie? I didn't have that on my main list but it's here now so cold opener with

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: cold meats and cheeses so yes yes yes sir how are you doing David? Good good and I know

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you've had a heck of a busy week since we last spoke here. You covered some of it on

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: social media. I'm just glad you were able to keep up with Big Brother while you were doing it all.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It was nice of the players to keep things a little calmer and predictable for you this week.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly I love that you know they told us right in the beginning what they're going to do

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: no changes whatsoever with the plan, no crazy veto ceremonies. It was such an easy week to

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: follow. No it wasn't David it was one of the hardest things of this entire week. I was in

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Aspen Colorado we were having a great time a great trip until I'm looking on my phone

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: realizing wow every single thing I was planning is kind of changing and it's blowing up and I love

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: it. Fortunately you know I had notes on each of these people and David helps me out throughout

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: the week and the great thing with this show especially when we're on this week we are

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: our viewers know this as well usually you don't go home for one thing in just one week

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: it's past behavior and we know why this person went home. Yes yeah now last week I predicted

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: that Rubina would be evicted and you know no no wait this is an old note I predicted that two weeks

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: ago. I don't even remember who I predicted last week. Oh this is what happens see you get

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: discombobulated here but in any case yeah we have to look back like you said at why Brooklyn

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_02]: was because I'm looking at that why would I have predicted Rubina? No I was just I don't

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah that would have been a crazy long shot. That was two weeks ago so you know this week like I said I don't remember who I predicted

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: it might have been Brooklyn and heck it might have been Tucker but more likely it was well

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: did we do Quinn? No you left Quinn anyway it doesn't matter. I mean I did say I might have

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Brooklyn actually. Ah okay it's possible. You did Brooklyn okay never mind it doesn't matter

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll let somebody else answer for us and go back. Right yes anyway like you mentioned yes there are lots of reasons

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that Brooklyn was voted out and you know we'll figure that out by the same path we always

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: take which is comparing how she played to a set of guiding rules I originally wrote 20

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: years ago in 2004 and have modified ever since. We'll analyze her actions using what we saw on tv

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: live feeds interviews and other information and of course the most recent version is posted at

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: robhazelwebsite.com slash big brother rules. As usual we have some other things to discuss

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_02]: about the week in general before we get to the rules. Now one of the main things I want

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: to talk about is my preseason winter prediction Quinn because this has been a roller coaster of

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: a week for him much of it a roller coaster of his own making. He went from being sure he was

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_02]: the target to finding out he wasn't to not believing that he wasn't to actually being

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: taken off the block. Along the way he almost blew up his game permanently when Tucker gave

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: him one job. One job don't tell anyone he was upon so Quinn told fellow nominee Brooklyn that

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: he was upon. I have no idea what was going through his mind some people on social media

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: have said well why would he trust Tucker? Well it doesn't matter if he trusts Tucker

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a risk-benefit analysis even if he doesn't believe Tucker at all there is zero

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: reward for telling Brooklyn and all the risk in the world.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But like we've seen a couple other times he it seems like he just can't keep quiet

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and he got very lucky this isn't the why Quinn lost podcast. He did he did I'm curious to

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: hear your thoughts as we go forward whether Quinn has finally hit the lowest point in

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: the world. I mean they love chaos they love trying to just roll around whatever they can

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: it's one of those things where we talked about previous week where I feel like Tucker feeds on

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: other people's energy like when he knows people are coming for him he's just like I am ready

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: to keep on going it gets him going and playing the game in such a chaotic way that I know

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: there's been a lot of recent discourse of whether how well is Tucker playing if he is

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: actually uh the strategy of a winning strategy we'll have to see uh Quintin though on the same

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he has a level of chaos even if he likes to do that and the issue is some weeks you need

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: to have less chaos by having less chaos that means not telling people every single thing that's on

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and in answer to your question yes I do think that he hit his lowest point um and I

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: think that allowed us and the house guests to see a new side of him uh I've talked

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_02]: previously about him being over exuberant and seeming fake well this was definitely the real

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_02]: side of him and you know maybe it helped to get some other players on his side through the week

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: we saw him talking again to chemo and to t-corps and to these other people and they

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: some of them seem like they want to work with him I think one thing is these relationships

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: change as it goes further in the game but they can also deepen like we said before that

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: what we felt Quinn actually might be genuine when he wanted to work with chemo and t-corps

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: but they felt I'm not sure if we can trust him because if he's telling us this information

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: what else is he trusting and we were like that might be some backwards logic but otherwise

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: you just weren't trusting him and we also mentioned that he might be playing a little bit

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: of a persona in the house so it's hard to turn that off but now I think them adding up

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: basically Quinn being on the bottom being targeted multiple times now just still being

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: opening opened up and genuine with others they can start looking back at his past actions

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and meaning like huh maybe we misread the situation so like you said he has survived

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: long enough that now he might actually have a little bit more credibility and maybe kind

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: of like I like it I don't it's not a similar game by any means but like the Taylor Hale game

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: where she was targeted week in week out and then she survived the block long enough and

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: enemy number one I think it was much longer than Quinn so thus far then she was able to be

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: like people like okay why don't we just work with her instead yeah yeah all right one thing

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to mention by the way for listeners on the audio podcast is you may notice that Ovi's

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_02]: microphone sounds a little bit different what you're not seeing is he is still I meant to

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: mention this earlier we talked about his travels he is still on his travels he is you know

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_02]: outside doing this podcast in the middle of his travels that is his level of dedication

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: but it also means he doesn't have his usual microphone so you know just to mention that

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: for people sorry about that meant to mention it earlier no I appreciate you David I yeah I'm

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: outdoors trying to certify keep the wind away and everything else so for any of our audio

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: listeners understand please put the pitchforks down the mics will be better next week yes

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: anyway going back to the show one other topic I want to mention here is it sure seems like

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_02]: if Brooklyn had won the AI arena there would have been another flip and Chelsea would have

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: saved even as Rubina and Tucker got a lot closer on a personal level on the live feeds

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: it appears that Rubina would have joined the flip against his wishes on a strategic level

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and everything would have been very interesting another you know another flip against the HOH

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: another you know a lot of drama but I guess we can't have everything we want

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I mean Rubina's she's a businesswoman she's separating her emotions from her strategy which

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: again we love to see there and I think this goes back and is such a testament to what

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: BBAI is kind of doing to the game and making our lives a little bit harder right here where

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: nothing is set in stone until that game is played and they say this about every twist but

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: this twist truly has made it become so difficult for the players to navigate

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: conversations about who needs to go home to really confirm things until basically last minute

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I do like the twist I'm hoping to see it go away soon enough because I want to still see

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: the element of Big Brother where you kind of can plan things it's okay on because of the BBAI

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: so you can plan things and so you can backdoor people I mean if this continues too long it's

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_02]: basically handing Tucker the game how many competition wins does he have right now

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: do you have count I do not have a count but you know the ones that he does have are in

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: BBAI and Vito mostly and so it's you know a situation where you can't backdoor someone if

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: you know at worst it's a coin flip that they'll come back again so

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: makes things difficult for the players to plan as well but anyway the other thing I wanted

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: to mention and we'll obviously get to it when we're talking about the rules but I wanted to

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_02]: say I was highly amused by Brooklyn being such a straight shooter and funny in her interviews

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_02]: she said exactly what she thought of people she took great pleasure in having eaten Angela's

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: charcuterie meats and cheeses you know and she kept saying things like well in the house they

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: were like this you know outside there you know but yeah she was she uh she shot straight

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah no I think it's fun to watch somebody like Brooklyn play who's obviously a fan going

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: to the show and wants to really enforce her will into the game is just scared to play

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and then leaving the home you know house even so such a short time span from interviews we can

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: only see so much but it seems like she's really taking it on the chin understanding it's a game

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and also like you know she came out came into the game having fun as leaving the game having

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: fun obviously she would want to go further and we're going to talk about why she didn't exactly

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah I mean it's a nice change between her and Cedric I feel like we've had people on

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: this season really take it on the chin when they're going out from the game earlier than

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: they expected which is always nice to see yeah all right well I don't have anything for our

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: usual Julie Chen Moonves is wrong about blank segments so yay uh so is there anything or

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: anyone else you want to discuss about the players before we get to the rules no I'm ready

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I will say it's you know it's interesting where every single portion there there's always a

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: season right where uh some player you have is pivotal in all the moves or some sort of

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: conversation when we talk about why somebody went home so why blink lost um I was thinking huh

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: before the season this episode week started I wonder if we're gonna have Tucker be a part

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: of the equation you know yeah maybe Tucker will be the one you want Tucker is a big part

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: conversation uh for many of my reasons we'll be talking one word why Brooklyn went home

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of some of it herself but Tucker's a big part of it so yes yes we got all right

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah well before we get to the rules I do want to mention that the survivor version of the rules

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: is available in a shorter and much more colorful version in poster form you can go

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to robhizzlewebsite.com slash yxlustfeed scroll down to the poster and click on it

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: in addition to the poster you can get the same design on a t-shirt or the checklist design same

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[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and click buy order enjoy all right well on Tuesday Brooklyn told Rubina

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm obviously not good at this game that's why I'm sitting here because I'm loyal it's rather

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_02]: ironic that she said this to Rubina who she definitely was not loyal to uh but she also said

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: in an interview that she trusted the wrong people do these accurately describe the reasons

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Brooklyn was evicted or were there a number of issues at play with adherence to her version

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_02]: loyalty being just one of them it's time to figure out why Brooklyn lost the first and most

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_02]: important rule is to scheme and plot I think Brooklyn knew and understood this but there's

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_02]: a difference between understanding and taking the right actions Brooklyn at times said she

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: was playing a loyal game and not lying yeah we know that she did lie if she was using that

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: as a cover great good I'm happy to see it but it didn't really seem that way because she talked

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: about it even after she was evicted and said she was loyal to the people who first wanted

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: her in their alliance now it's great the people did keep asking her and she knew the

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Ghostbusters provision of this rule even mentioning that she came in knowing never to

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: an alliance in other words when someone asked if you want to be in an alliance you say yes

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: so that part was good she was brought into the pentagon and the collective

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and five points and she had a tight final two with Chelsea and seemed to have generally good

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: connections but one thing I noticed even three weeks ago was she was not actively making

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: new alliances herself or pushing to get more people on her side I wondered at the time if

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: she was just trying to avoid appearing to scheme too much but in retrospect I don't think that

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: was it I think she was just happy with where she was you know we discussed in the why Cedric

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: lost podcast it seems she and Chelsea were kind of on cruise control yeah I agree with

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: that sentiment I think one thing is we definitely did see her play the game and

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: she was an abundance amount of different alliances we she could keep on naming the names of what

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: group she was in I mean it's a Venn diagram of how many groups she was part of but what we

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: did see is that I think potentially she came being such a super fan as well too typically

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: these past few seasons we've been seeing kind of a steam roll of alliances where it's you

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: know a big group of players go against this smaller group of players and knock them one by

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: one of course there's a little difference here and there too so I think by feeling so insulated

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: within the many alliances that she was in she felt that she didn't have to have that

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: additional push in these later weeks to kind of reach out people on the outskirts and so we

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of see here take a stronger stance and be very critical with the whole Tucker situation

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: we see when Rubina was the week before had when she thought she was going to go home

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and she basically says hey the boat the whole you know you're going away the team's against

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: you really conveying that like there's one side of the house I'm part of it you're not really

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: part of that and so because of all those actions we just see her falter a little bit and not

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: able to continuously keep that momentum of getting people in there because she's she

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: knows how this game works it's just right it was misread yeah and in addition to not

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: bringing people in she actually pushed some people away because early on it seemed like

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Brooklyn and Chelsea had a decent relationship with Mackenzie and Leah but they let those two go

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: we'll get into the reasons Brooklyn gave for that happening later in the fourth rule

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: but the fact is they had plenty of opportunities to bring those two in and they didn't they left

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: potential numbers just hanging in the wind you know 10 days ago as we're recording this

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: there was a side-by-side and the live feed cameras with Brooklyn and Chelsea on one

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: saying they had Leah while Leah was saying on the other one she felt like she was on the outs

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_02]: with those two and I know Brooklyn felt comfortable with the collective and the pentagon

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: but you always need to think about yourself and how you can have the numbers on your side

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's also it's interesting to see when we compare of who's gone home before her

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Brooklyn might be one of the players who's strategized one of the closest to the best

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of who's been evicted it was kind of more so that it wasn't that she was not doing

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: it she did it really badly she just kind of got one dice was rolled against her in certain

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: ways because like we said it was just a swap of her winning that BBAI and she's probably

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: still here but it's more so that she got misplayed misread a little bit I think more

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: she needed to continue what she was already doing and we didn't see that for her

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah and that you know none of the things we've discussed so far are specifically the

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: reason she became a target they were contributing factors to why she remained a target and

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: couldn't get out of it and we'll obviously talk more about becoming the target as we

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: get into other rules but once t-corps and key mode decided to flip things around

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: one way that happened was because Mackenzie and Leah were available as votes and then once the

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: flip against Cedric did happen last week Brooklyn found herself in a new situation

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: however she continued to make mistakes that ensured she would remain the target for example

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: she told Mike Bloom I had two choices I could lie and try to pin it on someone else

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: but I felt in that moment that I had got to say it very matter of fact so I chose to be

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: lean into the emotion and try to really sell like I had no reason to do it other than the

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_02]: house was saying you were going home it clearly didn't work but the thing is

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: she had another choice that she apparently didn't consider just being fully honest

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and asking forgiveness admit the existence of the collective try to work something out

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: but instead she and Chelsea spent a lot of time together when they should have been trying

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: to wrangle votes and you know she told Leah Mackenzie and Chelsea that she wouldn't even

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: campaign because she had two chances to take herself off the block that is a terrible way

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: to think about it especially knowing that Tucker was one of the people she was up against in

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the veto comp she should have been trying to draw people in and if she happened to win

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_02]: great instead she waited and once again just allowed things to kind of happen around her

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah very well said and the only thing I'll add to that too is that I think it's one of

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: the situations right when you're a sinking ship and it's going down that you need to start

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: looking at the rafts you find a lifeboat for yourself and also knowing that there's other

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: you're not the only one sinking there's other people seeking near you and this situation was

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: if you don't try to get somebody you know if you don't try to spread the information first

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: you're gonna get beat and you get beat to that only one person there's only so many

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_02]: life rafts for people right and you know speaking of other people it's interesting

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: to compare how Brooklyn acted to what Chelsea did after she was nominated

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_02]: of course in the veto meeting right away Chelsea started talking to people

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_02]: shoring up relationships trying to lock in votes meanwhile Brooklyn sulked and whined and complained

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: t-corps even said at one point that if Brooklyn had handled it the way Chelsea did she would have

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: been in a better position but by the end of the week we were in a situation where people

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: were willing to flip to save Chelsea if Brooklyn had won AI arena but they weren't going

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Brooklyn when Chelsea won if you know if Chelsea had won yeah I mean I think it goes back to also

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: the really good social game Chelsea has played by far in a lot of ways and we kind of saw that

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: in week one in where she was supposed to be a target she had been downgraded etc but we found

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: her you know be able to like work her way there I think with Chelsea I mean I don't want

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: to get too much into it because it's not that why Chelsea lost but that type but we saw

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Brooklyn need to do what Chelsea was doing that like start continuously use your social game that

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: you have been using but thus far when you're danger yeah now in Brooklyn's extended interview

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: with Julie she said that she didn't respect the game moves of t-corps and chemo because

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_02]: they all quote had a good thing going to get to final eight and then immediately admitted

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_02]: that of course oh yeah those two would have been the first to go but then she still acted

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: like they should have been happy with that because now they're going to be out next

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and only be used for numbers now first we'll see about that but this is another fault in

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_02]: the way she was thinking like really they should have just been happy to go along

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: to get eighth or seventh place you know Brooklyn tried making the case after losing

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: AI arena that people should play to win not to come in second so why shouldn't chemo

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_02]: t-corps do the same thing to avoid coming in seventh or eight it was a fault in the way she

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: thought about how other people would view the game in terms of strategizing yeah no it's it's

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: it's uh you know you fall in that pit trap of thinking that your line of thinking is unique

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're basing it off that other people won't be thinking like you do when maybe you

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_01]: need to be doing that what would you do in your own preservation mode so imagining other

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: people want to do that so but i think we're seeing a common trend of a lot of people feeling betrayed

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: by kore chemo um that they're underestimating them because of maybe their um very demure

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: personality you know very cutesy mindful i don't know if that made sense to you David that's a

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: trend going on right now yes yes i'm here with all the kid lingo exactly that is true

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: that's true i actually we don't know i'll do a shout out later on for you we'll wait till

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: okay um speaking of the way she was thinking one thing i've noticed this season is that whichever

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: person or side is not in power seems to believe they know everything that's going on in the

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: game but they're actually clueless we've talked about this before it was tucker until he became

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: hoh and then it became brooklyn and chelsea once he did and as an example beyond what i

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: mentioned about her views on t-corps and chemo brooklyn kind of dismissed the work those two

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: did and told dalton ross they just let their emotions get the best of them and they couldn't

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: let go of rubina and this ignores the fact that they value rubina as a game ally not just

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: a friend other examples of brooklyn thinking she has it when she doesn't include something

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: she said in her extended interview with julie for example she said that joseph isn't doing

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_02]: anything he isn't a gamer he doesn't even want to be there he has her totally snowed

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: because that's his move he wants to keep himself away from people he wants to act like he

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't know or care what's going on we'll evaluate at some point whether that was good

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: or not but for now he completely fooled her and meanwhile she's saying in her interviews

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that quinn is the best player in big brother history and as much as i like the guy and of

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: course i still want him to win because he was my preseason prediction i'm sorry but he's not

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_02]: the best player in big brother history at least not yet if he could dig himself out of this

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: hole and you know sail to victory i will reevaluate at that time yeah i mean there's a

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: lot ground for quinn to cover it's interesting to see hopefully his perspective on it but i

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: try not to give too much thought on that specific portion because she's just getting out of the

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: house things change and you know when you're so someone explained to me before when you're

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: warm in the apple you can't see how the apple looks on the outside and so that's the situation

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: for her and that it might take some time to see from there but it always is like

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: enlightening to know the pov of house guests leaving i think it'll be more impactful as we

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: get into jury segment to see how many people actually value t-cores and kemos

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: own agency in the game because right now they're seeing it as emotional flip and so

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: because she's viewing it like that that might not be so different than some of the other

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: players so what we're seeing is that they're not valuing them having agency in the game so

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a blind spot for them versus t-cord and chemo kind of controlling this in the last

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: yes yes all right well we can move on to the second rule which says not to scheme and plot

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: too much and to keep your scheming secret brooklyn has insisted that she was not leading the

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: pentagon and she's right uh but the problem is that facts don't always matter perceptions do

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and she knew that the out that the idea of her being in control had been floating around

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: the house for at least a couple weeks now she needed to do something to address that

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: but it seemed like once they voted kenny out she seemed to think the problem went away and it

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: clearly did not uh brooklyn told mike bloom i guess i can say i'm flattered now that tucker

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: thought i was a mastermind and this puppeteer that was running things i literally was never

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: even supposed to be in the collective that was an accident i just kept getting asked to be in

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: these alliances someone had to be the fall boy and they painted it as me week four

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and here i am but again what did she do to counter this notion she hung out with chelsea

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: made it clearer than ever that the two of them were an unbreakable duo which of course is

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_02]: something that's more likely to get you targeted brooklyn even told tucker there was

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: no reason to hide who they like in the house and her person is chelsea yes there was

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: reason to hide it brooklyn but then on top of that she and chelsea took an attitude that

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: t-corps and chemo feel like they weren't valued allies but were just votes to be told what to do

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: now sure some of that came from joseph pushing the narrative on purpose

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_02]: but the situation was such that it was easy for chemo and t-corps to agree with because

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: they saw the same thing yeah no i mean it's the same the trend again uh figuring out if you

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: can uh trust t-corps and chemo is being a downfall of some of these players they're

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: too much or knocking in that level of agency and the thing is this perception is reality

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: in the big brother house it does not matter what our reality is as we watch the show

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: what the live feed show is just what each player thinks is going on and so this idea

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: that she is overplaying she's on she is the mastermind she's part of all these things there

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and like i said she didn't try to counter any of it was a big portion of her downfall

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's why it made the rest of the house realizing one it's a target for the

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: might not be completely in the know of it but also too for the people who are already in the

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: collective already in the alliances that she is part of realizes hey actually we just got our

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: fall guy we just got the person our martyr you know it's kind of like when the ceo steps down

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: a huge packet subsidy issue is she's not going to huge packet that she steps down and gets

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: fired uh or no golden parachute no exactly for her it's just a parachute straight out to

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: win bez's interviews um and so what we're seeing right here happen is that if you don't counter

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: the misinformation going on in the house when you know it is and you can actually give

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_01]: information to counter it it's going to become reality and it is in reality yeah i mean you

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_02]: know going back to kenny pushing the idea that she was the mastermind even joseph said at one

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: that tucker might still have kenny in his head about her controlling things and i do think that

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: played a role tucker i mean who did tucker hang out with those days kenny you know he kept

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_02]: hearing that and i think it just made its way into his brain uh we know once tucker gets an

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_02]: idea in his head it is virtually impossible to get it out um not to mention he felt betrayed

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: because she was supposedly in the five points alliance with him and yet never disclosed

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: information about the collective and the pentagon to him now of course from her point of view

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that's because she only joined five points mostly to report back to the other alliances

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and she was never loyal to five points but well that knowledge sure wouldn't have made

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: tucker feel any better yeah no i mean and that's kind of the interesting thing with

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: brooklyn is that she was able to get part of so many different alliances and put herself

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and cement herself in really pivotal roles where she wasn't the main ringleader she wasn't

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: pushing at it so it's so frustrating for her not to own that she wasn't or literally just

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: throw somebody else under the bus um i think the writing on the wall was there that queen

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: was going to throw them under the bus in some shape or form i honestly don't even

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: say throw under the bus quinn just had to do something i mean he had every single thing

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: it wasn't like they were truly helping him out moving forward they lost a lot of steam so

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah i mean i just feel like brooklyn was and is a lot smarter of a player than she played

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: the last few moves and how she kind of moved in the house yeah now i want to close out this

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: rule by talking about something brooklyn said both in the house and then again to julie in her

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_02]: interview inside she complained about the people who stayed quiet and said if she went out at

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_02]: least it wasn't as a floater as if there was some big brother encyclopedia somewhere that would

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: note that important point alongside what place she came in you know like came in voted out this

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: week asterisk was not a floater no it's not there it doesn't matter um and then she told

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: julie i would rather play the game than be a floater like some of them if i came out because

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: i played the game i came out because i played the game well yeah you came out in part because you

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_02]: played the game in a way that made it seem like you were over playing the game lying low

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: is often a much smarter strategy in this house especially there are plenty of big personalities

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: let them fight and see where everything ends up you know as it is like joseph would be one of

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_02]: these people she's talking about as a floater she doesn't even realize how much influence he

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: has but brooklyn could not bring herself to play that kind of game so she dismisses it

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: even though that's part of the reason she ended up going out so soon yeah no i think

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: one like we said a few certain interviews i try not to give so much cloud into thinking because

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: um they're trying to justify where they went home you know and maybe it's a defense mechanism

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: in there but yes i think in a house when you have them completely full of people with huge

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: personalities it's probably better to lay low that we've seen other players do but we've also

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: see people who have really spiked up and then try to bring their threat level way down low i

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: feel like mckenzie you know she had a big threat level since week one and then she's

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: going competition she's kind of found ability to kind of bring it down a little bit more

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: where other people risk up queen is a perfect example yes week i mean you need to have that

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: fluid you don't have to be full on always a full off and i mean again we're so early in

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: the game i think some people who leave and get frustrated about this realizing this is a game

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_01]: 99 days uh is much smarter to kind of work your way out because none of these people leave

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: right out to vote for you to win so it doesn't matter how many great kind of a movie

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah all right well the third rule talks about the need to be flexible this week

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_02]: brooklyn told angela on the live feeds that going forward if she had gone forward she knew

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: she needed to do this to be flexible but looking back on her game how do you think

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_01]: brooklyn actually did here it's tough because i don't feel like and you know you and i have

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_01]: argued about this in the past right like you have to be i feel like in a situation pushed

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_01]: have your flexibility be shown and sometimes you won't have situations to do it in this

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_01]: situation brooklyn did have the situation like had um many opportunities to be flexible and

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: try something out differently and not working i mean i think this week is kind of was the

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: for where she realized oh wait i'm not exactly with the numbers i need to figure out some way

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: to work you know with the people who might not exactly be on my side and instead we kind of

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: alluded to this in the first part of it that she really doubled down and tried to work with

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: chelsea and all the other people around her um and be like all right you know what tucker

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_01]: i'm going right at you i'm gonna get you angela is not my friend all these people here

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: i know what i need to do i'm gonna work with them and make it happen well the numbers said a

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: not going to work this week especially for someone like cedric who is basically universally liked

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: within the whole house um so i guess here's my question to you so my answer is like i don't

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_01]: think she did the best flexibility wise but do you feel like the players would be more apt to

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: be more flexible maybe she's much more capable of it if it wasn't for bb arena do you think

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: it's because of that they're deciding not to try to go down that route well i mean

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah it is interesting because one thing brooklyn told dalton ross was with the format changes in

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_02]: the game this year uh quote you had to be flexible and tucker's not flexible so she

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: was criticizing him but in doing so she seemed to be implying that she was flexible and

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that simply wasn't the case um now i think if anything you need to be more flexible with

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: because you have to have options you have to have more option

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: you know and you can't just play the same way that it's it's been she's right about that part

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: where she's not right is whether or not she did it because you know all we have to do is look

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: at one thing brooklyn said in the game in interviews about how she gave her loyalty to

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_02]: people who wanted it and she wasn't going to change so basically she locked in with her first

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: allies and she was not going to adapt to change things up as the game progressed

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_02]: things change in big brother the alliance that you start with is very often not the alliance

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_02]: you end up with and there can be many steps along the way you need to be willing to make

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02]: right moves to take those steps but brooklyn just boom locked herself in yeah i mean you have

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: to be able to work with other people and it's interesting you say that forces you to be more

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: flexible because i guess there's different strategies obviously can utilize attacking

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: right now for tucker i would almost argue tucker is pretty flexible but more than that

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: too i think that um with the bb arena leading fear that no one wants to probably put tucker

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: up if he's available because i think he has that few shots to come down there keeping that in your

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_01]: mind figuring out who you're going against it's it's unfortunate because i don't know maybe she

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: would have played differently otherwise we she knew that there's a back door other capabilities

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: in there because she is such a gamer she knows this game right front to back but we just

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_02]: simply didn't see it from her yeah all right well the fourth rule says players should not

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: let their emotions control them and brooklyn had issues with a couple aspects of this rule

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_02]: one of those she laid out in response to a question mike bloom asked her in uh her post

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_02]: game interview with him she noted that as we discussed in the first rule she and chelsea were

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: close with mackenzie and leah early but then distanced themselves um brooklyn said you just

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_02]: start forming who you actually like in the house and that was hard for me i guess to cover

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: there were people that i just enjoyed being around more and it ended up being chelsea and cedric and

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: cam truly not just because they were my alliance i just started to blend and mesh with them

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and as much as i tried at the beginning to keep a smile on my face and talk with everybody

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and hang out there's just some people that are really annoying and personally i just didn't care

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: now the thing is that that's emotional thinking and it needs to be pushed aside

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_02]: in the game of big brother and i know it's not easy i know they're there 24 seven for weeks or

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: potentially months but you can't just decide to abandon people in the game because you don't want

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_02]: to be near them and would rather hang out with your pals all the time i think you know

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: there's two ways to utilize your emotions in this game and those ways probably more than

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: ways but primary two ways is one lane it do you which we've seen tucker use in a positive way

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it's been our argument that we've seen him try to take his level of revenge and anger and like

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that you know make him win these competitions and the other one is let it consume you in

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: a way that alters your ability to work with other people so unfortunately i think every

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: player is emotional to some aspect i think for brooklyn they impacted her in such a way where

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: she closed off all the doors of right she didn't want to confuse anything this plus her i would

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: say this caused her inflexibility from the world before head yes um and you know it's frustrating

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_01]: because you know you hear her why why she wants to win big brother she talks about she wants to be

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_01]: um i think i'm trying to remember exactly how she raised it but i think with the first mother

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: to win big brother was kind of yeah the married mother married you know she wants to

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_01]: that you can do this and everything else yes exactly so i think there's such a

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: emotional reason to want to win which isn't a bad thing that fuels her right but unfortunately

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_01]: i don't think she was able to separate emotions about who she wanted to work with to try to

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: reach that goal right right and then the other part is that she had a problem with her anger

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: she claimed she didn't get mad she just got even but she got mad and that was often apparent

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: on her face such as especially when cedric was blindsided and it never really went away after

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that she tried to cover it up she tried to make up stories to portray herself as the victim

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_02]: it never worked and that made it more likely that she would be the primary target

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and less likely that people would want to work with her i don't think i've ever heard

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: anyone say the phrase um i don't get mad i just can't even without actually being mad

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: they're like ceiling but i don't get mad i get evil i see you get revenge you go john wick on

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: them like yeah that sounds like you get kind of upset like i get even feeling it so yeah that's

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_02]: funny you said that yeah and that goes back to you know like like you had said you know just

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_02]: tucker takes his anger or whatever you want to call it and and channels it she took her anger

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and pushed people away this leads nicely into the fifth rule which says players need to pretend

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to be nice and play the social game and indeed i considered putting both of the things we just

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_02]: discussed in this rule because both involved her not being able to pretend to be nice

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_02]: but since those were for emotional reasons i left it the fourth rule but we still have

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_02]: some things to talk about here coming into the game brooklyn said she intended to use

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_02]: her conversation as a secret weapon and wanted to get to know people inside and outside the

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_02]: game because if you learn about them in general they'll want to keep you obviously things didn't

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: go so well in either of those two areas no it didn't i mean and here's the thing is that

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: brooklyn's personality in the beginning like week or two i think a lot of people going

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: watching a show was hmm was she too abrasive what was she doing to you because from her

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: she's very like very forward um kind of want to say i'm ready to like match any conversation

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_01]: in so your worry would be oh maybe they would rub people the wrong way but would actually in

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: fact she was able to navigate socially and be around groups of people in a good way

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: what the issue was was that continuing that steam and not letting that be impacted to you

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: in other ways you know if you want to you i don't in the beginning parts it wasn't hard

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: nice players because she didn't she felt that way she wanted to be with them she wanted but by

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_01]: that week you gotta keep in mind this game is long you know survivors is done by the time

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: this week starts over like you've been with these people for so long so uh i put a little

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: anecdote i always say if uh my fiance hannah claire she she would go people would always ask

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_01]: before would hannah be on the show and things like that i'd always laugh because i think she

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: would absolutely kill any show she'd be on do this type of social thing she's very lovable

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: but her social energy i mean she said and she'll say herself after a week she's like i would want

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_01]: to try self-evict or have them a big me because i try to take out every single person because

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: i would i couldn't be pretend to be nice with that i would just want to be mean to all

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and i think that's the reality of it doesn't matter how good of you but you have to have

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: such a tolerance and poker face and keep that on for months and months on actually win the game

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_02]: so it's uh it's tough yeah now there are a number of examples of other things going wrong for

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_02]: brooklyn here we can laugh and we did at angela's charcuterie stuff uh that brooklyn

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and mckenzie ate but the fact is they should have realized that big brother is a social game

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_02]: did it play a deciding role no but will angela or would angela always remember it

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_02]: absolutely as we saw in her goodbye message i mean if there's one person who's going to hold

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_01]: the grudge probably longer than tucker it's angela and yes but we've seen and they know

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_01]: that from week one from the monologue to probably one of the most iconic species we've

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: gotten for big brother history for a very long time um don't want to make angela man yeah

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: now another area was brooklyn's decision to purposely mess up tucker's clothes during the

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: non-game reasons and tucker got pissed then she let him rant and rave against quinn

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone figured out it was her but she maintained through the end of her game that

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_02]: she didn't do it even when tucker directly questioned her which only solidified that

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_02]: she was lying to all of them we've seen tucker sometimes willing to forgive people if they come

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: to him much like quinn did this week and i i think tucker would have considered it if brooklyn

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: had fessed up now it might not have changed anything we there's no way to know but the thing

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: is she never should have done it to begin with you're on the block why would you want

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: to do something that further pisses someone off i think also you know i hate to keep bringing

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: tucker in so many ways because they're so interconnected on this we talked about

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_01]: tucker when he was like on the block and saying oh maybe i should just go um put myself on a

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_01]: block when he did that and then i'll win this ebai and the next week he was like maybe i

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_01]: should do this again it's this level of risk mentality that you're feel like you might go

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: home or you just are like kind of done with certain things that you're just like ready to

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_01]: like go all in you know you're just like i got a pair of jacks and going all in bad move probably

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know hope the river gets you and so with brooklyn i feel like she she's a perfect

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: example she kind of already felt like i'm just gonna go all in i don't like tucker i'm gonna

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: just do anything i can do to kind of piss him off and just let it be and this is kind of

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the adverse parts of it you know uh correlation is in causation tucker kind of got lucky in

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_01]: this situation in a lot of ways brooklyn thought what the odds probably told her that

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_01]: if you continuously do this to make up people say if you go all in you're gonna go home

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and the thing is you know generally speaking some of the other players already didn't have

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_02]: particularly good feelings about brooklyn from a social standpoint joseph called herself

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: righteous angela talked about how she started to feel bad when brooklyn was discussing her

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_02]: mom's cancer and then kind of shook it off because she felt well brooklyn hadn't shown her

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_02]: any empathy previously and quote it's not like we're going to be friends or anything

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_02]: so it was just you know it's it's it's not necessarily one thing it's like the steady

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: drip drip drip of different things occurring and her continually having these issues come up

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and the one thing i'll just lastly say on this thing is cute is like i i love how you say

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: it's dripping dripping because what it is is that you're stuck in that house with nothing

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: going on except what you guys entertain yourself so as you sit there and you start thinking about

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: wait how did they react how i said that we go well huh you that ferments in your mind

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and so as the game gets longer all these smaller actions that you've done thus far

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: might not be big at that point but they start leading up to this huge mass because

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_01]: as it's dripping that faucet eventually will make a pool that pool makes a pool and that

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: drowns you and maybe the ball the pool maybe the it becomes a beach water i don't know

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: it gets you that's what happened with brooklyn this situation yeah all right well we hear the

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: sixth rule which warns against being too much of a threat and for most of the week

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_02]: brooklyn insisted she wasn't one as we discussed earlier but then at the very end after

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_02]: she lost the ai arena she told everyone basically that they should keep her because

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: she was a threat to tuck her she later told dalton ross he's scared of me he is scared

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_02]: of someone that's smarter than him he is scared of someone that has more cojones than him

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's me which is true he should be and i am not someone that backs down now

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: i can see why she wanted to try to make that case at the end and you know it's good try to

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_02]: fight for your life try to get something out there but there were a few pieces missing from

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_02]: logic puzzle the first problem was that as of that moment people are still too afraid to go

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_02]: after tuck her because of ai arena second let's say they did keep her and she did somehow win

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: hoh despite not winning anything to this point because you know she's making the case keep me

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and i will win hoh and go after tuck her what's your proof that you're going to win hoh

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: you literally haven't won anything yet but okay who would she nominate tuck her for sure

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: but if you know he has a good chance of winning ai arena it would be someone else who would end

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_02]: up going she was pleading to the very same people who she would put in danger so in that

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: way she was a threat to many of them as well yeah with the bb ai twist like you say

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_01]: we bring three people up so she still has two people at risk and one of those being tuck her

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: are three people with two other people other than tuck her at risk tuck is probably going to win

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_01]: in their minds more than anything too you're at such an early point in the game still that

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: people aren't so worried that we need to have another threat to take this threat out yeah the

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: idea is we can probably outlast tuck eventually because if like the rest of the house is against

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: tuck in the moment he doesn't win in a choice or competition we can get him out that's kind of

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_01]: versus also like why would we want to keep another threat in the house

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: if she was yeah i mean if she was one you know exactly i commend her for trying to take some

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: other stance to make it work because at that point you need a hail mary i do think if you

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: really want to take that route maybe she should have gone for that before head because

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: at that point is that the bb ai competition is going to happen one way or the other so if you

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: win it great you got butter there if not though you've already cemented in your head to

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: tucker is coming for y'all because i also think chemo and people were kind of a little worried

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: about the monster that they created in tucker helping him out this week so i feel like if she

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: really solidified how she was that she is the commander of these things i take credit for that

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_01]: i understand what we have in front of us it is that monster called tucker uh in terms of

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: big brother not outside but in terms of the monster called tucker we need to take him out

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe some of them would have been like you know what i don't hate having two

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_01]: factions of a warheads going at each other and leaving us there but at that point

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_02]: she only took credit to be the big bad villain yeah yeah you mentioned t-corps and chemo

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and i think part of the problem there is you know we already discussed how she said she

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: intended to get rid of them around final eight and the same was true of joseph quinn knew all

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that and had passed it along rubina already knew that brooklyn was willing to toss her aside

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: mckenzie and leah were no longer in her orbit so allowing her to stick around

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: kept someone with a tight duo and a couple other allies while putting so many others at risk

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: right i mean overall is that level of hers can she get bigger and bigger and then she

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: accepted it at the end so right right all right well the seventh rule says to trust almost nobody

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and when dalton ross asked brooklyn why she lost this was basically the rule she cited

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_02]: not by her number uh in addition to not winning comps saying i trusted the wrong people

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe but honestly i wouldn't change a thing when it comes to that i was loyal to the first

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_02]: people that wanted my loyalty and i wasn't going to budge on it and it bit me in the butt

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_02]: now there's a lot to unpack in that statement some of which we already have

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: first yes she did trust the wrong people indeed there was a whole chain of failed trusts here

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_02]: she trusted members of the pentagon and the collective including quinn quinn told the

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_02]: visionaries chemo told tucker and it just swirled around from there beyond that saying

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: she wasn't going to budge on giving her loyalty and trust well that goes back to part

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_02]: of what we discussed in the third rule and of course i think all regular listeners know my

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_02]: thoughts when someone who goes out this early says i wouldn't change a thing well you should have

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_02]: but also of course we spent the last six rules discussing many other things she did wrong so

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: while trusting the wrong people was certainly a contributing factor it was by no means the full

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: to dalton's question very much said like that's very well said there's not much i can add to that

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: except the fact i just it took me completely off my train but i just thought about a reality of

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: a world where if somebody literally quoted and was like you know what rule number seven from

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_01]: david blue murch white's loss is the reason why i went home i hope somebody who watches

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_01]: this relicences when they go on the show when you go out that's say one of those things

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_01]: right i will pay for your travel where you need to go we will make that happen

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_01]: because that would be such a clip but that being said yeah so many other reasons here's

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_01]: these everyone everyone trusts somebody typically in the big brother house and when that trust is

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: broken is what you do after she didn't trust someone so much as sunk her entire game

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_01]: unfortunately it was her own doings in that matter because she had enough time to change

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it wasn't like a day before had that she told him the greatest ally did this happen you know

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_01]: so it's one of those situations that she had a lot of other people too that could have been

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: thrown under the bus she could have worked for jets there was one person who was probably

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: the one person that she could have expected to do this and who had the least amount of

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_01]: credibility too so if she kind of attacked queen publicly all this i really think she

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_02]: could have backtrack everyone's thoughts yeah yeah as far as the quoting it's been done

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_02]: not by rule number but by quoting the rule all the way back she and way back when uh so you

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_02]: know in her final words said i was voted out for uh violating you know the the well-known

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_02]: uh i can't remember her exact words i should i should know this but you know i by by plotting

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and scheming too much and i'm sitting there at home watching that going what did she just

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_02]: add what yeah you didn't send me that i didn't know that that is cool um very but but anyway

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_02]: coming back up to you know now um yes uh despite saying that she wouldn't change a thing

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: one thing brooklyn did say to rob and taryn was that looking back she probably should have

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: uh queen uh into a final two so he would have been more loyal to her but she didn't because

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_02]: she already had several final two now the funny thing is he of course had final twos with just

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_02]: about everyone and even talked on the live feeds about getting in her into one because

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_02]: it would have been hilarious uh she's probably right that she should have done it from a

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_02]: theoretical standpoint but i don't know that it would have meant a lot to him in terms

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_02]: of like keeping him more loyal to her as opposed to the visionaries yeah it's a tough one maybe if

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_01]: she was able to do one he might have second thought who to throw under the bus and then

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_01]: he was thinking who could i if they had some form of connection she could at least go on

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_01]: to her in some shape or form and tried something before doing something there so

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_01]: you never know his hindsight is 20 20 yeah but i also it's one of those things said

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_01]: she probably it wouldn't hurt her you know in any situation most likely with that stuff

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_01]: with them being intertwined so many other alliances yeah and i mean they did have a good

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_02]: relationship they were close i mean that was why quinn stupidly told her you know about

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_02]: the pawn situation they just didn't have the official final two deal you know yeah all right

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_02]: well it is about time to wrap things up so what are your final thoughts about brooklyn

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah well brooklyn came into the game strong i think we can say the very same thing of her

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_01]: leaving the game she was impressive in the way she really maneuvered initially in the game and

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: there for herself in alliances where honestly i didn't know what to expect out of brooklyn

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_01]: um she had a social game we didn't really see much of a competition game but she had

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: a personality and i think that's something a lot of people really enjoyed watching her

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_01]: on the show push out unfortunately i think that personality kind of took over in a lot of ways

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_01]: she stopped playing the social game and started focusing on how she felt other players were doing

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_01]: or treating her that she kind of played the game unfortunately like we've seen in past seasons

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_01]: where it's one big alliance versus a lot of smaller people and that didn't work out because

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: we're seeing a lot more fluid flexibility within these alliances and that kind of thought her so

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: i didn't even maintain that gaurav was her inflexibility that ended up taking her home

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and then the one person i know he wasn't all the whole part of it but i will say the one

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_01]: that i think was the most important was her husband or tucker she she met into the wall that is tucker

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_01]: like many other players right now we will see how many other people that have her

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_01]: uh consumes but uh brooklyn was wonderful yeah well yeah as you said brooklyn came into the

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_02]: game you know strong she was a fan who thought she'd do well in many aspects

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_02]: uh saying that she would have a strong game on each side with his physical mental social

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_02]: strategy to the point she asserted that she would be the house guest that people start mentioning

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_02]: after this season i said in the pregame that she was too overconfident i still stand by that

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_02]: now i also think that overconfidence followed her into the game she didn't win comps but she did

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: get brought into what appeared to be solid alliances and she thought she had trusted

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_02]: this led her to enter into kind of a cruising mode where she stopped playing hard and ensuring

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_02]: people were still on her side her emotions caused her to hang out almost exclusively

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_02]: with those she liked the most and not with those she got annoyed with which seems natural

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_02]: on a human level but you can't just act that way in a game like big brother this allowed

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_02]: to move away from her and into the orbits of others meanwhile for reasons both real and

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_02]: imagined brooklyn became tuckers public enemy number one he had thought she was a problem

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: earlier but people told him he was wrong once he became hoh and brooklyn allowed her anger

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_02]: to show while she made poor excuses for her vote it turned into confirmation in his mind

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_02]: that she had been a problem all along and by that point she had already lost the support of those

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: she needed to stick around i mentioned earlier that brooklyn said if she went out at least she

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_02]: wasn't a floater well okay she went out uh and pretty much nobody is going to care about

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that floater thing but she could have learned some tips from them don't stand out so much

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_02]: don't share all your opinions don't form an obvious tight duo along with multiple other

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: alliances that people know about and don't let those floaters well float away from you

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_02]: brooklyn was initially targeted because of the perception that she had too much power and control

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: but then when she needed it she didn't actually have enough power or any control

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and that is why brooklyn lost so well said well said thank you thank you uh we will have

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: our spoiler free predictions in a moment after a few other pieces of information

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[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: i've been posting three or even more videos per day on all of those platforms uh they're

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[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah check out all those various accounts all right time for predictions as i mentioned our

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: predictions are spoiler free uh that means i wrote this up before i knew the outcome of

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: the hoh comp and ovi he's been traveling he still doesn't know the outcome of the hoh

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: not so um we know at least tucker can't win um but we don't know anything about the upcoming

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: so it could be anything and anyone the most interesting outcome would be quinn winning

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and backdooring tuck but that seems unlikely i think it'll end up being someone in the sixth

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: avenue alliance who wins and then the question is whether they do what tucker wants or they turn

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: on him i could see the nominees being cam chelsea and quinn and i think by the time all

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: said and done they're just going to go with the kind of the easiest route and cam will be

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: the one leaving us interesting okay i do not know what's going on right now so i don't know who's

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: one i'm throwing my vote though as the law of averages i think somebody who might be in the

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: minority might win this i and people who know that they probably need to win this are quinn

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: cam um i want to say cam actually is gonna win i think cam's gonna win and i think he's gonna

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: take a shot at tucker still put him in i think anybody who is not tucker even if it's not maybe

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: t-corp chemo i think you're gonna try playing tucker up anyways because you need to see if

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: you have a chance or put tucker up there and oh these tweets are so hard because it only

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: matters who will be the ai yeah goes there but maybe t-corp and chemo might get blown up

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: this time it's so tough to say because who will be on really but right maybe some combination

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: mckenzie but i'm gonna say uh cam wins tucker goes up there chemo goes up there and we're

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: throw um mckenzie up there for a pawn and then i think uh tucker gets himself down and we see

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: between mckenzie and chemo and mckenzie goes okay all right um all right and i'm sorry as we uh wrap

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[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: in this week let us know your thoughts do you feel like Brooklyn went home outside of a reason

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: we didn't say which rule do you feel like she disrespected the most to send her out of the

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_02]: appreciate you tuning in yep thank you very much ovi for another great episode in the middle of

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_02]: your travels literally taking time out in the middle of of traveling uh we will be back next

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_02]: week uh one or both of us may be at a mystery location next week so who knows what's going

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: to happen then uh but uh yeah uh we want to make sure that we always get the podcast into

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_02]: so uh we will see everyone in a week bye