BB26 Why ___ Lost Week 4 | Big Brother 26

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[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to WAP Blank Lost for a Big Brother 26.

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm David Bloomberg, and from the post-Syve Synod Social Media, from the moment the eviction happened,

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: some people may again be thinking there isn't much to discuss this week beyond the obvious, which is don't volunteer to go on the block.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And while that is an important point, I will probably yell at least a few more times today.

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It certainly doesn't cover everything because it still took specific decisions to go from that point to sedrics actual eviction.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm happy to say that OVCB here is back as usual this week to dive into all these discussions with me.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back, Rob.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, David. I'm happy to be back.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I think anyone who caught last week's episode of Cory, he did wonderful hours enjoying watching from it.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I was hoping you would have a bit of a more twisted, exciting week last week.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess the BB God is interesting.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we need to wait for OVCB to get back here, and we will make sure we leave that for today because David and I have been messaging this whole week.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Having our notes ready, and we said, you know what?

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Most difficult situation will be if somehow sidrick goes home.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Here we are.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. Yeah, Cory and I had fun talking about not so fun guy, Kenny last week.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And once again, we appreciate him stepping in.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But now you have a much more surprising eviction to deal with.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week, I predicted Rubina would be evicted, and for much of this week that was, that was looking pretty good.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I was really proud of myself. But at the last minute, literally Thursday morning, it finally flipped to sidrick.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it had been moving that direction for a day or two before that, but nobody knew if it would actually happen in part because it required T. Coran chemo to actually do something instead of just talking to each other.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But the questions that we have to answer as always are why and how it flipped.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And to figure that out, we'll follow our usual path of comparing how sidrick played to a set of guiding rules. I originally wrote 20 years ago in 2004 and it modified ever since.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll analyze his actions using what we saw on TV, live feeds, interviews, and other information.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course the most recent version of the rules is at Rob has website.com slash big brother rules.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we usually have some other things to discuss about the week, and of course, that's the case this time.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought a main topic here was going to be about something I just mentioned, which is T. Coran chemo talking and talking and talking, but not doing, which was the case for most of the week.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Indeed, they could have prevented Robina from ever being on the block if they had spoken up to Quinn like they kept saying they were going to.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And Leah would have gone up instead.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But we'll talk more about T. Coran chemo in the rules. So let's talk about Leah instead because by all right, she pretty much should have gone up.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, she was on the right side of the vote this time, but she easily could have been gone due to her attitude and the way she's been treating some of the other players. She's just lucky her spot wasn't blown up.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, Leah the very interesting player and I think something we said prior to the season happening that I was a bit higher on her. You're a bit lower on in regards of how we think she would follow rules and we found Leah really trying to at least with the showing right build up the wants to play against some big threats in front of her.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And we're seeing her kind of play the social game, which I actually love seeing her play back at the same time. Unfortunately, you get a little messy here in there. I think for Leah, a lot of circumstance because she's been talking about people behind her back.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And then kind of being wishy, washing and not having a kind of autonomy to move things forward. What she says she wants to do, but we've seen so much in the big brother house, especially as we get further and further in.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: When you don't cement your own will into certain moves.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And maybe not cement the will as much as a ball and team yourself as a pawn to be on the block. But when you go the other way from it, when you don't touch it, you can be, you know, a buy product somebody going home and Leah was, you know, I would argue that kind of happened to set your going the other way around.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah was very close to be the person going home this week, these turned around another way. Yeah, I mean, for those who don't watch the live feeds and of course haven't seen any of this on TV she.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: She pretends well, she did pretend sort of to be okay with Quinn now she stopped pretending like she walks out of a room when he walks in. She tells other people he gives her the egg but then so to most of the guys in the house, apparently.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, meanwhile Quinn for much of this week was thinking that he was good with her and Ticore and chemo know what Leah is really saying.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And they kept talking about we need to tell Quinn we need to tell Quinn they'd have a meeting with Quinn and then not tell them and be like, well, we need to quit tell Quinn next time.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, that's how Rubina ended up getting nominated to begin with if if they had spoken up.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, never would have happened but that's just one of many big ifs that led to this outcome this week.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, everything kind of every player had to do something wrong.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I said, I think go. Oh, I mean, it's really so unfortunate because I really love said, Rick, I know people are going to be watching from like, I thought you rated said Rick so low on the rankings and the reason I ranked him so low in perception up before going in because I was worried that you don't being the youngest in the home.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_04]: You would go out early just because of like moves might be out of this control and yes, this week was in his control the way man.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, everything had to go wrong for said Rick to go home.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, two other people I want to talk to talk about our Tucker and McKenzie before we knew for sure that the flip against said Rick was on.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want it to happen and I said the son Twitter because Tucker had been saying from the start of the week that he had the votes and effect is he never did.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he thought he was controlling it and said Rick would go because of him.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And I knew or I figured once it was done, he would take credit for it and it would just be like, no, it's not you because of course we've talked about how he always thinks he knows what's going on when he really doesn't.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I will have to see how that plays out, but throughout the week we again saw the same thing.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not having a good read on things while also being 100% sure that he did.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: For example, Tucker insisted that Quinn didn't have the renomination power after the veto and Angela did to the point that he was like getting nasty and calling Quinn a liar and you know it actually upset Quinn.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He had to go separate himself.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not entirely sure what made Tucker so certain that he knew what the power was because it's not like the diary room would tell him what the secret power is.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But as with everything else, when he thinks something he is very certain that he is right.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think we're seeing a thing of a lot of confirmation bias in the house especially from Tucker and causation might not be correlation a lot of people.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's what it says to me.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I've heard that throw that you because we're I mean from what Tucker sees if it happens because of other factors he attributes because of his own will.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Again, that's super fun for us to watch.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a really entertaining how does that pound along term game I'm unsure but I mean I think a perfect example is when Tucker basically says that he wants to put himself or if he was saying it may be I will use the veto.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But no, no myself again we might self-embark to work so well last week well for Tucker everything had to go in his way for him right not be voted all you know last week it's not because this was a great plan it was just you know it worked out great.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's not hope that under is in a bottle again you know or lightning in a bottle.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think to your credit David what you're saying is completely true work Tucker is kind of he has a mis idea of how things are playing out and to do that himself.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I see that in some of his fans and I'm not saying all of that perfectly fine to be a fan of Tucker watching for good TV but sometimes like I posted a clip where me and Corey were talking about Tucker's terrible strategy.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And people were like no he's great he's winning all these comps like comps have nothing to do with strategy.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's great he's fun to watch fun to watch has nothing to do with strategy you could be good at comps you could be fun to watch and still terrible at strategy and right now his ability at comps is keeping him safe so that you're more able to make mistakes strategically when you can just.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're way out of it.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we have seen him doing to this point and you know but as.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: said Rick himself noted in an exit interview.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: There is a thing called the back door and when the angley a irina is gone.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, said Rick at least is predicting Tucker will be to.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll have to see maybe he'll improve you know I mean week four last year we certainly went to predict a jag is the winner as a matter of fact week four last year.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I had pre written my wide jag lost notes entirely because he was voted out unanimously until he was safe but.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, go ahead.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say one thing with David lounge thrown.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: He we will have come out of the jack situation last year but one day I will say to Gi's credit to he had so less competition to save himself then.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he did this whole BBA is literally made for somebody who's good at competition.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And again, I'm not saying anywhere that way, but it just helps him in that way because he knows he has that least probably two chances to take him stuff off the block either whether it's a veto or BBA so it's one of those things where.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_04]: this type of game play is very specific to the season.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And also it's not sustainable as we go forward.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: We're way in a words, maybe Tucker will

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_04]: but like go on from Queen Run unless he goes on

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_04]: like a Mike holiday run where he wins every single

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: thing survivor S. Quies.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me tough.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know that's, you know, a Corey brought up last time.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the AI arena, you only have to beat two other people.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's in these very short carnival type games.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, not.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, he can win other things too, but it's a very

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: specific area even if they're different types of games.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens there.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But the other thing about Tucker is he also got all pissed off

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: with production for telling him he wasn't 100% right about things.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he wanted to kind of crack Rubina's neck when it was

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: hurting.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said he could do it because he'd known a chiropractor for

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: a long time.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, first of all, I do want to point out even when a chiropractor

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: does something like that there are risks.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Be careful.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't be careful when you do that.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They have caused strokes and stuff like that.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Second of all, he's not even a chiropractor.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He just knows what.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So no way, they are going to let him do that.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But again, he got all mad because he knows better.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know that part just, you know, and the idea.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, we'll make a few viewers or listeners upset, but

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_04]: the whole practice of, you know, what car practice and

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_04]: specific folks who do this stuff sometimes a little bit.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, so pseudo is this is a little.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_04]: See, we're like, showing on there.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just kind of funny and that stuff.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker just has a, I think for him to thrive, he needs to make

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of an enemy if that makes it.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Some people thrive on that energy is kind of like, you know,

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_04]: what you need to have a rival for you to, like,

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: pedal your energy and go for Tucker Excel, Sam.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And here's the thing, everything we're saying here,

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_04]: hiding Tucker is incredibly entertaining.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he is a certain coming of his accords, you know?

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he is his own character.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_04]: We will remember Tucker, when we talk about in the terms of,

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, when we have a lot of his fans and other people talking

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_04]: about his gameplay and defending and certain ways,

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of we can separate the two.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_04]: He's never to do it.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And just because something has worked out, it's way right now,

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_04]: might not be the proof of putting that anyone else to

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_04]: replicate this.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's interesting is you mentioned that he always has to

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: have an enemy in that, you know, may factor into the last thing I

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: might have to talk about, which is he could be a big baby,

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: because, you know, he walks around calling people all sorts of

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: names, including all sorts of profanities.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But then he got mad and apparently is still mad.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Last I heard that about Quinn jokingly saying things like calling

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: him a MacDorkatron or something like that in his speech last week.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Like really, you're calling people MFers, but MacDorkatron is what

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: gets you upset.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And it could be what you're saying that he needs to keep

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: himself constantly amped up.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It could also be performative because he claims sometimes he's just playing a role.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But either way, it just you watch this and it's like really

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker really come on.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to think it's a bit more profanive than it's actually his

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_04]: real personal time.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he understands it's a game.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He wants to play it both in the game strategy wise and that I think

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_04]: there's certain point.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he has, I'm not saying he's not trying to win the game.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he definitely is, but I think he has allowed the fact that he will be at

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: target for the entirety of the game instead of trying to lessen that

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_04]: part.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So now he's accepted that right level, the target level and he's just going

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_04]: all out and having fun with it.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Which again, super fun as viewers to watch.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But I do think now he's accepted his role in the game.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And we're just going to see him go forward there.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not going to be flexibility in the way he might move, which when

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_04]: his if there is a white cooking loss, we'll discuss that.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I mean he's a train is going full throttle.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, I wanted to move on to McKenzie because

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to mention she is very lucky.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: She won the AI arena.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: From what I saw it looked like if she hadn't,

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: no house flip was going to save her.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this was a one, this was happening one way and one way only.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And if that's it was this duo against each other.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And she won in part because Rubina messed up when I was watching live,

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw at the very end, Rubina looked away from her own table as she grabbed

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: her last two spheres as Julie kept saying it because I think she didn't

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: want to call them balls.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, she grabbed those and hesitated briefly to look at where McKenzie

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: was considering how close it was at the end, even though we could barely see how close it

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: was at the end, could think it's to bad directing.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was just enough to cause her to lose.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And then when I rewatched parts of the episode,

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: there was actually a scene where Tucker was giving her specific advice on how to do the arena

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and one thing he said was don't look at what anyone else is doing just concentrate on yourself.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: If this was survivor, you could not have put these scenes in any better.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And they were doing it without knowing the outcome.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, it's what I'm going to deepen to that whole thing.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I was really watching it actually and for the first time I walked you alive,

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I was confused because I thought Rubina won the last scene we see here.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: It's basically throwing the last scene that we see McKenzie tag in and how she could be like,

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't realize that I knew she was close with not to that level.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, truly a split hair difference there and I mean, I, yeah, I, I, McKenzie's very lucky

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_04]: that worked out in that's favor.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah, like you mentioned there, a lot of people, well, I guess we'll discuss that too

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_04]: and there was a lot more favor and rebeena from the people around her who wanted to see

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_04]: bring their firsts McKenzie.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's what I said, you know, it's everything had to go wrong or I guess right in the

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_04]: option for centric to go home.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, just yeah, like you said a split second difference, you know,

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah, you know, one reason McKenzie would have been voted out if she hadn't won was

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: she told it just just one example.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: She told T-Core, she didn't really know who to work with because no one talks game

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: to her.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And on Thursday's episode before she got to the arena, we saw her say I don't know where I

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: lie in this house.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the answer.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're saying I don't know where I lie in the house, you know the answer of where you

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: lie in the house, which is at the bottom.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So she could be in serious trouble going forward.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think we could see that warm now that here's the thing, I think I'm curious to see if

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_04]: he has survived long enough in the war that now the war is coming, is going to the factions versus

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_04]: that people on the casualty side.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I think sad drink.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yes, Tucker had something, I think Ted said to go's more of a casualty of the war.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I wonder if we're going to see shots actually fired and then coming weeks, it gives the

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_04]: main people versus clean Tucker or Angela other people.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And so McKenzie might be able to be upon but survive her way through because we're at level

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_04]: might not be just outside.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see talking down in the foxhole there.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So is there anything or anyone else you wanted to discuss before we get to our regular segment?

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what?

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_04]: The only kind of says that I can recover to a lot of people already.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just been one season to watch so far.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can't remember the last time and this is not a disdain any other past season but I feel like

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_04]: this season specifically has a level of just like one magic with it.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the big brother like produces other people have been doing pretty good with certain editing of it.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I enjoy the cast very much so the twists for once have worked to make it exciting.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know just from yesterday's episode there just so it made it worth that that was a

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_04]: scramble who should they vote for.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So I feel like it's just been a really fun season.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: The big brother so far I hope we can continue to keep this train going on.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't feel like it's been a steam roll by any means and it's very dynamic.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_04]: This has been fun recapping it so far.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope the viewers and listeners have been enjoying it as much as we had.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah well you said those nice things about production and so now it's my turn to enter the

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Julie Chen Moon Vazinger.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know about blank segment except I don't really have much to say about her.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: More relates to production because I thought it was funny that while those of us

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: watching the live feeds new Joseph had flipped Thursday morning.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So we knew what his vote was going to be.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently nobody told Julie because the way she introduced him as he you know came to the

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: dire room to vote made it clear that she thought he was still going to vote out Rubina.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, why bother right like she doesn't she she has her notes and I guess the person

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_04]: on the note taker was just like you know what like why bother like I didn't you know go I mean it's not

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_04]: changing anything yeah I mean for every step forward there's always two steps back but yeah

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: that was very funny to see that isn't seen like certain things are translated over.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just funny because she always insists she does pay attention to what's going on in the house

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like no you clearly didn't you know.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I do have a more general big brother production is wrong about blank as well because

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Wednesday's episode started with the announcer saying

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn was secretly pulling the strings behind the deep fake HOH and then came out of the shadows.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: No stop it the house guests all knew the audience knew everybody knew he was not in the shadows

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: he was not secretly pulling there's that everybody knew why you know did they

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: write that and have him record it like first thing this week I don't even understand

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_04]: why they did it that way. Yeah I think they really when they're creating the idea

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_04]: wanted it to be that it truly is a shadows we have an AI is it actually the person you know

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_04]: who's HOH who has a power like make some form confusion I was all dispelled

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_04]: very quickly as uh Quinn pulled Angela about his power a week ago maybe there should have been

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_04]: a stipulation I think that would be an interesting thing with certain powers that I know there's

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_04]: power with telling certain people what maybe a stipulation in people can find out who the

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_04]: power is if anyone can everyone can vote right after the power is used who they think it is and

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_04]: if they're right it gets dispelled you know I think that would be kind of a fun little thing

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: change. Yeah all right well then before we get to the rules I do want to mention that of course

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: the survivor version of them comes in a shorter and much more colorful version in poster form

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: go to wrap his website that com slash yx loss feeds scroll down to the poster and click on it

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and then you can also keep scrolling and get the survivor version on a t-shirt and you can get

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: the checklist version as well on a t-shirt. Now the checklist version is the closest to the big

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: brother version but we don't have that yet and I'm going to make a little revelation here.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I have been considering slightly modifying the big brother rules to be close even closer to the survivor

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and so you know I don't know that we want to put everything on a shirt just yet

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: until I'm sure what I'm doing because I feel like there's a couple things that could be adjusted

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and so you know I don't know that I'll do it midseason we'll see but you never know.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like tailored as version of the rules now you know we're going to have a little knife

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: and maybe since I'm here it's going to be Obe's version right there so what do you think Taylor hail?

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[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_01]: said you volunteer you miss your shot you go home. He also told Julie in his extended interview

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: that he lost because Quinn put up Rubina next to him instead of Leah and T. Coran chemo wanted

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: her to stick around. Now both of those are certainly part of the end to said rick's run in big

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: brother but even combined they don't tell the whole story so let's collectively dig in like we're

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: doing military intelligence at the Pentagon because at r-a-j-p we know reality TV and we know

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_01]: why said rick lost. The first and most important rule is of course to scheme implied.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really think said rick was much of an expert in this area not as much as I might expect

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: from someone who was in the intelligence area for the Marines you know we could see this both

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: this week when he was a nominee and also last week when he was at your age but for right now

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to quote from my rule one the most important attribute of an alliance is that the people in

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: it won't nominate you or vote for you to leave. The second most important attribute is that they will vote

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_01]: the same way as you will for somebody else to head out the door actually let me clarify and emphasize

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: they shouldn't nominate you if they have a lick of sense. Anybody who has been watching the show

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: should know by now that the quote decoy strategy all too often does not work out well for the

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: decoy it has failed far too many times with the quote safe person being sent home in those cases

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: in short don't do it also don't volunteer to be the decoy. Now clearly said rick didn't get them

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: which isn't surprising since he admitted in his interview with Sharon that he really hadn't watched

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: the show before and I do think that we saw some of that you know like when he was hunting for

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: someone to volunteer when he was acho age and when he was so willing to volunteer when Quinn was acho

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah I mean it's one of those things where there's so many reasons not to you know we've had

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_04]: so many examples of perhaps that when you put yourself on the blog it gets you in trouble

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I think a more thing I'd love people to start looking at more to is that and weighing in your

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_04]: final conversation when you're in the jury you know how many times did you afford to block

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I think some people would look at as a as a point of place to be like I've been on the blog this

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_04]: night times I've started by but that's only if you've been there every other week and also most

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_04]: people look at them you're like you're on the blog every other week you know like do we

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_04]: at least see that as a course of power so this idea that you're one giving up will fully an argument

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_04]: to the jury at the end so it gives away your win at would it? Especially if you're going to go down

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_04]: there with allies or other people every little matter means and then to more than 18 it puts you

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_04]: at risk of going home and this is a so such a sad thing is because he knows he also has a big

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_04]: target on his back after last week I'm there certain times to do this if you're going to do

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_04]: this right and I know I still don't think you should ever do it for a certain time and you have

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_04]: somebody knowing that Tucker you went completely against Tucker and I think a lot of people are like

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: oh last week maybe a sad trick shouldn't have done what he should have done he should have kept

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_04]: you know shouldn't have he should have tried having Quingo home not the upset about this home

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and I don't think I still have bad decision I don't think said your go through really in the

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_04]: long for deciding the way he did I think this week itself the biggest reason for him is he

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_04]: overplayed the hand and where you scheme a lot right there don't scheme for yourself to be in

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: danger right yeah I mean you know yeah last week he was HOH and instead of strategizing with

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: his allies to figure out the best path to getting out who they want he spent more time looking

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: for volunteers and then this week he didn't learn from those who said hello and you know didn't

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: think oh they think it's a bad idea maybe I should think that too so again just in case any future

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: to house guests are listening let me say this clearly don't volunteer to go on the block now

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: interestingly when said Rick was voted out he claimed to Julie that he knew T. Core and Kimo were

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: if he but he said if they prove themselves this week he was good forever he explained this further

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: in his other interviews for example telling Mike Bloom he volunteered to be upon with what he thought was

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: an ingenious plan he thought Quinn was going to have a vote and believed that with Quinn's vote it

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: wouldn't matter what T. Core and Kimo did now this could make us mad that the information wasn't

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: put out there clearly for Quinn but the thing is it didn't matter because said Rick lost by

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: more than one vote so it wouldn't matter if Quinn had a vote he took a big risk on a completely

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: misread premise it's a bad idea to volunteer as a nominee even if you think you're perfectly

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: safe it's an even worse idea to do it if you have suspicions that some of your allies

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_04]: might not actually be on your side yeah I mean it becomes a county game man it's so frustrating because

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: it's truly like Icarus you know the rise and fall so close to the sun and last week said Rick was

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: the golden boy in the beginning of it where I was so high on said Rick after his week on where he we

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_04]: we talked about it you and I yeah that if we go back he was in trouble he was one of two people who

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_04]: did not have a vote typically in most season that's an easy vote that somebody to go believe at home

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and him being as young as he is it's an easy target his social game got him through he wasn't

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_04]: even a conversation to be going up uh we he was able to get himself a mesh into this stuff going

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_04]: to the other week he's able to kind of find a way played through all the rub on come out clean

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and then we have his age of wage week we're actually we're seeing a great plan happen people

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_04]: the Tucker wine of volunteer that you're having everything kind of work his way in there

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_04]: to this week where it doesn't matter how good your game is being played how well you do certain

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: moves if you just make one fail mistake and you put yourself so close danger um and we see that

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and you know it's a county game right and he said he missed counted there but sometimes you don't

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_04]: have to actually make a county game it only becomes a county game and a numbers game when you

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_04]: put yourself in that position you want to put yourself in a position where you don't have to worry

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: you're good outside of it yes and that is why this specific reason is why I'm wearing this shirt

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: which is it seemed like a good idea at the time and uh like for those of you just listening

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: it has a nuclear explosion on it which kind of exemplars a direct scam a little darker

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: darker meaning there but yes yeah yes uh yes um now even with all that said you know I mentioned

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: earlier there was not the only problem here and yes obviously if he had not done this if he had

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: not put himself on the block we definitely wouldn't be talking about him but once he had like you said

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: over a whole series of events still had to happen and a big part of that goes back to T-Core

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and Kimo continuing with the theme of sadric not really knowing how to scheme and plot at one

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_01]: point this week T-Core and Kimo asked sadric what happens when they get down to eight in other words

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_01]: you know just the collective is left and he said oh they'll just figure it out which is the worst

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_01]: possible answer and he gave that answer because as he later said in interviews well they were

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: he was gonna knock them out first of the collective well yeah you kind of telegraph that

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_01]: but you don't want to do that the correct answer is to say something about oh work directly with

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: you to turn on the others you know anything that is what they want to hear and not making it obvious

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: that they're going to be the first to go but he was either too honest or just I think he just didn't

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: how to lie about it yeah I think just probably a lot of factors in play and since you know he

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_04]: he's one of the young castries coming in there he he's kind of a meshed of stuff socially with that so

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe he felt bad about trying to completely pull the lug over their heads and ways one thing

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I think here and here's the thing well we'll probably talk a little bit more about T-Core and Kimo

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_04]: in the situation right and we saw them kind of come out this week and kind of play fiery when they

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_04]: felt like you know they're like beasts and waiting you know like he's like a tiger and in the wildest

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_04]: way to get something but they have to be active in the sense that they knew you see like okay let's

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_04]: do some of their player playing very subtle eccentric unfortunately wanted to play in a subtle way where

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_04]: he was you know not taking control of things and he was in a position though where honestly if he

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_04]: was taking it charge I think they would have fallen right along with him you know this is a perfect

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: part of it where they want to talk about the future he's not including him he's really showing his

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_04]: moves right there that they're not including his future so then they that to make it move right

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_04]: uh said Jrick already was in a fiery seat after last week you know he didn't want to get blood on

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_04]: his hands but the way it turned out being is that he actually made a big enemy in tuck yourself at

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_04]: this point you have to play the hand itself to you and you need to take the action because we know

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_04]: his great social game he has connections in here he really just need to start making the

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_04]: bonding with his friends and people around him and make these moves not passive. Yeah and and that's you

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: know exactly it and I have some more thoughts on that in a minute but I did want at least mention

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_01]: he did some last minute strategizing much to Julie's delight you know after the AI arena we saw

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_01]: him pull aside Kimo and T. Cointradic convinced him that them that he was better for their

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_01]: their game and he confirmed in interviews that was indeed what he was trying to do but let's face

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_01]: it we've talked before this sort of last minute thing isn't going to work it took Kimo and T. Cointradic

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_01]: literally days to finally act a minute ablated talking from said Rick wasn't going to change that

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and that comes back to you know the point that you were making because

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_01]: an important aspect of this rule is that you don't just need to ski in plot you need to do

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: better than those who are against you and you know we just discussed that said Rick claims

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_01]: he knew T. Cointradic Kimo were iffy but like you said he didn't do anything to counter them

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: it seemed like the whole pentagonal alliance was just uncruzed control this week and

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: you know I mentioned earlier that in said Rick's extended interview with Julie he said he lost

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: because Quinn put up Rubina next to him instead of Leah and T. Cointradic Kimo wanted her to

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_01]: stick around but this brings up the question of why said Rick didn't push harder to get

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn to put up Leah you know putting aside something we all right discussed which was that

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: T. Cointradic Kimo should have told Quinn about Leah's true opinions of him others in the house

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: new too and if said Rick worried about going against Rubina he should have made his case very clear

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: because indeed if it had not been Rubina he probably would have been fine that was the main factor

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: in convincing at least T. Cointradic Kimo to flip although I think Kimo is more likely to flip

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: because he wants to work with Tucker but you know there were other considerations such as

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: them not being in the pentagon feeling like they were at the bottom of the collective

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: which they were they were accurate in that feeling but like I said it seems like him being up

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: against Rubina was what really pushed her over the edge and she even said essentially that

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and her goodbye message. Yeah I mean a hundred percent David I mean I think when you think of it

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_04]: to he knew going into it for being a stays on here that's three instant votes per stay

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Kimo T. Cointradic Kimo and a Tucker no matter what most likely that's a big risk you're taking already

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_04]: especially if you're working hand in hand with Quinn for example especially since last week he

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_04]: was kind of the reason Quinn is still around there for a lot of things you need to enforce

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_04]: her will a little bit more on Quinn to hey let's think this through I mean like we said that it's

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_04]: funny how Leah kind of stated by with nothing like putting her up there when probably all the

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_04]: seasons two just need one person to say something hey let's put Leah up there no one did

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_04]: which again that could be a testament to circumstances or maybe how well she's played in certain ways too

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_04]: it's one of those frustrating things for Centric I feel like it always hurts me when I get

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_04]: not cared about because they're a real person but I personally really do like there is a character

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got to be a good yeah yeah but a person I feel like it could have been so mitigated you know

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it like this type of eviction could have been so mitigated even with all the things there

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_04]: like even though he put himself on the block even though if he did this one thing differently

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_04]: here if Cedric kind of took a little bit more control here within the schemeing plotting portion

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_04]: of this I don't think we see him go out yeah yeah it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's a

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_04]: accumulation you know that's what we have this now we talk about it right all right we can move to

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_01]: second rule which says not to scheme and plot too much into keep your scheming secret and

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there will be some who believe Cedric was voted out because he double cross Tucker

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and didn't follow through with the supposed plan to nominate Quinn last week and you already

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: reference this but that's just not the case for one thing as Corey and I discussed last week

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Cedric didn't actually do that for another as I said earlier Tucker wasn't the one driving

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: this boat anyway however there was someone who was double crossing people and giving away too

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: much information and over scheming and that person was Quinn he exposed the existence of the Pentagon

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and the story of how it came together to T. Quarren Kimo his goal in doing so was that he wanted to

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: work with them and that appears to actually have been true that you know one of the few things

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: he said that was true but instead it had the opposite effect of making them question where they really

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_01]: stood with him now as I was watching Thursday's episode and T. Quarren talked about that in the

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: dire room I kind of faced Palm Delittle because it seems pretty clear to me that if someone is telling

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: you about another alliance that means they trust you more it's not that she found out he was telling

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_01]: the Pentagon about the visionaries no he was telling them about his other alliance they say doesn't

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: want to be in anymore but for whatever reason she did not see it that way and that's what counts

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah I mean that's the scary thing about trusting people in the house where you don't know

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_04]: what's going to go around or how they're going to believe because each person's so different

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's one of those things where with Quinn he has sunk his own boat in so many ways

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_04]: character in itself too I've enjoyed watching Quinn in many ways especially with the feud between

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_04]: him and Tucker going back and forth and I do like that they've been able to kind of keep a

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_04]: little bit more joyful when I think a lot of other players would be like very uh it feels you know

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah it's felt more of a fundraiser to watch but that in itself connected to sadric right there

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_04]: made it so that any plans of sadric might have not been over sharing Queen was doing the oversharing

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_04]: or like I mean and also I mean we just we also saw that he didn't look people in there I mean

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_04]: there could be an almost an argument for sadric that he didn't do enough you know so he was doing

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_04]: opposite of this overplying overseeming but Quinn you know connected to the hip in this sense

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_04]: since did there and the one thing I will just say with the whole Tucker thing last week too it's kind

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_04]: of like and trust me I really enjoy watching Tucker play but it's like if somebody's on the side of

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_04]: yelling saying the world's gonna end the world's gonna end you know the world might end next week

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and actually I mean like you should have listened to him in that moment you're like why my like

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker was yelling against the wind you know he's got such a wild comp so for sadric they're like

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_04]: what all his points on Tucker and get this plan that really is me pushed by Tucker

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_04]: and and Tucker turns around and says you are my enemy sometimes there's variables you can't really

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_04]: control what I think Tucker is one of those and he just became the enemy that needs to be fueled by

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker yeah now going back to Quinn another thing I think is that because of his style or at

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: least a difference in style between him and T. Koren Kimo they seem to feel more like he was often talking

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: at them rather than with them even though he would repeatedly ask for their thoughts they rarely

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_01]: gave them this goes back to what we were talking about earlier with them being like we have to tell

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinnus and then after they met with him they're like next time we have to tell Quinnus it's like

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_01]: sure um they certainly believed they were just being used as numbers for the collective overall

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and they were right about that and nobody cared about their actual opinions but I think that carried

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: over to Quinn in particular as well the thing is I don't believe Quinn felt that way but he communicated

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: differently than they did and they just never got on the same page yeah I think it's interesting

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Quinn has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in different ways and some ways I understand

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_04]: it in the big brother house you get annoyed at people and in other ways it's like I think they have been

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_04]: the I can't word this in quite a thing but so I but the causation of just upsetness you know frustration

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_04]: or somebody you're going to take it out on and Quinn has been on the receiving end of just losing

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_04]: against Tucker like they can't pick it out against Tucker because Tucker just keeps on waiting you know

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that I would become a pariah in the house if he couldn't win the competitions he's

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_04]: when we saw that happen to Angela you know she was a proble she's won certified you know powers

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_04]: waiting hours Quinn in themselves hasn't and now I think he's feeling from Angela from Tucker

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_04]: is leaching into the rest of the house where they're kind of like oh maybe we should have somebody

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_04]: just like suck or dislike Quinn this much in house maybe I should be a little bit more wary

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_01]: well and also Quinn has been I don't want to say disingenuous but he's been kind of

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: overacting I don't know if he's if it is nerves if it's his whatever but he's having these

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: conversations and he's amping his personality up and one in particular that I remember when he went

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: to tell when he went to tell Tucker about you know that he was putting Rebena up he was like oh hey

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: all right hey stay you know just super duper amped up and when he left the conversation he was like

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: all right high five yeah all right ham stay handsome Tucker know you love I love yeah you know

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and then afterwards Tucker's just like oh my god I can't put this guy and

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that when you have that going on it does make you seem less genuine

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah and I don't think he I mean in that situation he wasn't being genuine but

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_01]: when he's talking to chemo and tick or he was being genuine but once you get that appearance in

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_04]: the house it's hard to get rid of yeah very much so and it's a week's getting more and more I

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: think people understand and give a little bit more leeway initially because they're like okay we're

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_04]: playing game is fun but then it feels like it's more real life as each day goes back as you're playing

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_04]: you're knowing each other and these relationships go in and on so queen probably needs to become

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_04]: showcase more authentically themselves versus kind of as persona yeah now this overall thing

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_01]: was a perfect example of a situation that you have mentioned before on on previous podcast where

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: someone else's game is sorry where someone's game is directly impacted by someone else's actions

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: sadrickens spilled the beans but queen did and queen was linked to the alliance with sadrick

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: not to mention the t-core and chemo also felt like Chelsea and Brooklyn were too comfortable

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and acting like dictators again not sadrick but sadricks connected to them all those other

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_01]: players did things that came back to hunt separate yeah I mean truly the bear of bad news like we said

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_04]: that he wasn't the one truly overplaying this week or these weeks he looked he played a very good

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_04]: lay low game and at times well our criticism has been with his gameplay has been a little too

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_04]: pass of it but I guess you can play passive and get the target on you when you have alliance

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: members like he does where they just want to tell everybody everything and continue to do so there's no

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm curious that if what whether you think this is a bad product David of

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_04]: we haven't had true any big alliances really more so of like sub alliances that have kind of

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_04]: intersected but I feel like the entire house is still aside from maybe Angela very like the big

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_04]: background there are parts of different parts of it how do you know that I think that there is a big

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_01]: alliance it's the collective and then there's a sub alliance within that which is the pentagon

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's a sub sub alliance within that which is the core and then you know they're then

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_01]: there are offshoot I think it's pretty typical I don't think you know looking at

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: dolphin because map that she does of the and I hope I pronounce that name right

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_01]: you know showing it I don't think it looked particularly crazy you know in comparing it to other times

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: so I I think it's pretty standard it's you know there aren't two specific sides of the house

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: there's one there was one big side of the house and then a bunch of kind of people doing

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_01]: different random things that all came together this time yeah I guess for me I feel like it's a

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_04]: little bit more fluid in the way that people are willing to work outside of their sub-rides

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_04]: then because of that I feel like some people information moves a little bit more readily the season

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_04]: where we're seeing and that's kind of for saidrics downfall is that any information he might

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_04]: not been putting keep we've been outside of the alliance or with the other portions we're

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_04]: getting this information because other people are sharing it all around right no yeah I agree with that

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_01]: alright well the third rule talks about the need to be flexible how do you think saidric did here

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_04]: it's tough because like I do think Patrick was somewhat flexible throughout his game as we

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_04]: seen him kind of navigate with different players talk to them I also think this last week when

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Kenny went home saidric really tried to weigh both decisions of whether how we should make this

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_04]: navigate this who should try to go home who should push for this week I mean you can almost

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_04]: argue that he was flexible to a fall where he's like all right put me on the block you know

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he didn't have I wish he had a little bit more inflexibility I think that's my issue with

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_04]: saidric in the situation because I feel like if he was a little bit more stringent if he had

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_04]: the rules per se David's rules here and he stuck by them then he would've been like you know

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_04]: let's not do this I know this should be good but for him he's like you know what I can risk

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_04]: for the biscuit I might be able to outsmart them so thinking that he could get a leverage up within

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_04]: the game he was willing to put a little bit more risk than it probably was the worth so I don't truly

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_04]: think his flexibility in terms is what sent him home you might disagree with me on here but

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean more so was just misplaying the level of flexibility where he should be at yeah I mean

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he showed some flexibility in the way he was willing to hear people out on different ideas as

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: did with Tucker's plan to target Quinn last week and also in the way he like made a final two

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_01]: deal with Quinn that he later told Julie he knew was fake but the thing about being flexible is

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_01]: you need to use it to your advantage and I don't think he succeeded in that way in our preseason podcast

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I discussed how saidric said he planned to be flexible and take it step by step each week

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_01]: he mentioned that he had seen people come in with plans that were too specific and that didn't work

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and I noted that he was right about that but I wanted to hear a little bit more about his thoughts on

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_01]: a plan just taking it week by week doesn't say much if we don't know what he's going to be doing each week so

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_01]: that's what I said and I think that was part of the problem here I really don't think he had a solid

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: plan he got in with an alliance and then he was just going along kind of like I said cruise control

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: for the alliance as I mentioned earlier when T. Core and Kimo asked him what would happen later

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: he didn't have that good answer he was trying to still be or appear flexible

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_04]: and they didn't want flexible at that point well but I mean they did not they wanted him one way

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and what we only when he wasn't going home yeah so the fourth rule says players should not let

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: their emotions control I mean I think saidric did a very good job here especially for someone

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: his age he was sure he held his ground under pressure he made the moves he thought were the best

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: for his strategy we saw this most clearly when he was H.O.H. and Tucker put the pressure on him

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: to nominate Quinn as a replacement but saidric thought it through determined it wasn't good for him

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and then when Tucker came at him hard with a bunch of yelling and accusations saidric maintained

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_01]: his composure and you know as I I think I said last week he's probably used to a marine

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_01]: drill sergeant yelling at him so this was nothing but still it's difficult in that house to

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_01]: have someone coming yet you screaming telling you that you did something wrong you double crossed them

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: when you know you didn't it's hard not to end up just yelling right back at them again

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_04]: 100% I think saidric should not hold their head in shame if I'm using but specifically to like

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_04]: for this they control their emotions so well I think there's so many players in the past and even

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: outside of the house would react completely different and saidric did when he was faced with challenges

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_04]: he kept the steady hand and that's the thing I think I love that we're able to talk about

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_04]: centric I feel like all the moves he made we can we can disagree on whether how we believe those moves were

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_04]: actually happened like if they were good moves or not but he did every move he thought that would

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_04]: help him get further in the game like he thought about it right he wasn't without just some random

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_04]: thought he just miscalculated from our report hindsight's 2020 right like we said everything literally

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_04]: had to go wrong maybe he could have gone ahead somewhat there we don't think the risk was worth it

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_04]: shows it wasn't but I mean emotionally he did not make moves based on that he did not try to

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_04]: go out people in a way that hurt his game I mean yeah I mean I would love to see saidric and some

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_04]: other version out there and if we have other players who are younger who go into the house I think

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_04]: they really should look at saidric's game and the point of how you control yourself under pressure

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah normal job yeah all right well the fifth rule says players need to pretend to be nice and play

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: the social game and you've already talked about this a couple times you know he started out

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_01]: just where the mask got he could have easily been targeted from week one and certainly the overall

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: house agreement not the target him and Chelsea help but what helped even more was that he's just such a nice guy

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: in our preseason podcast I said I thought he'd be instantly likable and he was nobody had a cross

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_01]: word to say about him even those who voted him out were all extremely upset about it they all had

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_01]: to follow the fourth rule themselves to put aside their emotions about him and make a move that

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: was best for their own games as T.Core said for example I love saidric and trust him the most

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_04]: out of the Pentagon members but I want to keep Ruby yeah it's so tough because he went against basically

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_04]: the his crypt and I in the house at that point but it wasn't any doing of his social game I mean

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_04]: it was a doing of other people social game that really through saidric under the bus there I mean

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_04]: when you have the people voting you have be like feeling bad about it this early in the game you

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_04]: know you've done something really well there I mean like we we I mean I've been talking about this

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: entire podcast but I mean his social game is really what put him in setting him up in the best position

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_04]: it was one of those things where I also think it's unusual to see somebody as youngest him going

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_04]: to the house and have that level of social game with other players to typically see if people who are

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_04]: younger than a house go there and they go far is because they have either one of few cops here

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're or they have found a way to kind of get themselves into a strong group of people who won't

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_04]: throw them under the bus and then they're far but the setric was the one really pulling his own horse

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_01]: all right well the six rural warms against being too much of a threat and saidric had of course

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_01]: one in HOH company was seen as someone who could theoretically compete against Tucker do you think

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_01]: that or other aspects of his game made players consider him a threat I think that definitely I don't

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_04]: think that I hope to be the essence of Tucker coming out of my think Tucker saw him as somebody

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_04]: he'd go against and like push it at and the house saw that this was a warrior against Tucker so

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_04]: then at that point somebody's got to get slayed you know one side of the other side so when

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_04]: you go in the battle for Tucker his go even when he was considering like maybe she had not

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_04]: taken myself off the block so I should go against saidric as he viewed such a threat that he might

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_04]: potentially leave himself on the block to ensure that saidric couldn't win the BBA competition so when

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Drake didn't win the BBA competition to surprise him along the house yesterday they're like we

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_04]: have no choice but to take the shot now too so I think also because of Quinn becoming the other

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_04]: side spooky man and then essentially connecting himself you know two saidric you have this threat

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_04]: level between Rebena and him like you know it's no question he should go home my Ken's in him

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_04]: that's where we say that you know his social game of saidric game probably would still

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_04]: beat out the Ken's the and the Ken's he would go home at that point but in this art you know

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_04]: it doesn't matter it's just whoever you're up against the threat level so is was for by far

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_01]: more than would be enough yeah yeah I mean I think Tucker was a threat in a in a more general way

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_01]: it wasn't so much him personally as it was him as a member of the Pentagon you know we've already

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_01]: discussed he wasn't out there being a super skimmer he wasn't aiming to take most people out specifically

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_01]: but he was on the team of those who were going to do that down the road and that made him

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_01]: part of an overall larger threat because he could be used as an ally or a computer even just a

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_01]: number by those other people and almost everyone who voted him out realized they were not

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: part of his long-term plan or the plan of his allies yeah I mean it's there you know one of the things

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_04]: where it's like it doesn't stand you home but it's a part of and I think that's what we're seeing

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_01]: with saidric yeah all right well the seventh rule says to trust almost nobody saidric

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_01]: clearly had several problems here uh we discussed earlier how he seemed to have full trust in the

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Pentagon and also thought the collective would hold together meanwhile Quinn was exposing the

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_01]: former and Joseph was willing to flip on the ladder when the time came which it turned out to be

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_01]: good because uh saidric said in his interview that after going getting rid of uh T-core and

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_01]: chemo they would have got rid Joseph next um even worse though is what we already mentioned about how

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_01]: he was a bit worried about T-core and chemo yet he still acted as if they were solidly on board

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_01]: if you don't trust someone completely you need to take measures to guard against them not

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_04]: let's see what happens and test them yeah it's when you strut all that line that saidric was

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_04]: see me um we strut all that line and you're kind of playing that middle portion of it um you

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_04]: have to be so wary about what you're giving on to the other side and so uh especially with T-core

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_04]: and chemo when you think about how they're so and saidric might not know in this at that point but

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_04]: when they are so like even with Quinn throwing them information right and they're like

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_04]: very cautious and we're getting to trust anybody right uh with saidric in that situation

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_04]: they if they're not even any form of confirmation from him this I even 50% they're going to turn

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_04]: completely which we did see there so um he really needed to trust us a people he knew he could trust

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_04]: at that point but I think that's the tough finding that was kind of his double edged sword

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_04]: T-Cauchico so social so friendly with everybody there um he didn't know because no one was really

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_04]: other than Tucker showing against him you know it was hard for saidric to know that he might have

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_04]: been that trouble because he's been so friendly with everyone and they're so they they eat off his

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_04]: energy so it's almost a social game kind of mass um his ability to see that oh wait these could

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: be enemies too yeah all right well with that is about time to wrap things up so what are your

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_04]: final thoughts about saidric uh man I mean I'm very happy saidric came on uh the show and surprised

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_04]: my initial expectations in which I was worried that hey he could be early boot because uh you know

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_04]: him not being able to play the game or adding missteps or other factors outside of his control

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_04]: some of those factors outside of his control did send him home but overall I think saidric

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_04]: later really fun game to watch uh from being a social butterfly in there and navigating himself in

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_04]: there to uh using his power what he did have power in the house and it not about the way

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't more than anything with 10 him home was uh the allies around him and his inability to kind of

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_04]: control the game and move it forward the way he need to do that I think a lot of that comes with

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_04]: life experience and when you're going to the house so you don't tend to take control of me

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_04]: in the house and let other people do it for yourself he was put in a situation where he needed to start

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_04]: being um kind of the director of his own ship within there he didn't do that for all the reasons

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: basically everything that could go wrong that went wrong on top of him volunteering to be on the

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_04]: block is sense and recone uh great guy uh love watching play and I do think future players who are

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_04]: younger can kind of think and I at his game and be like hey let's emulate these things and just

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: not volunteer to go on the block. Yes yes so also I want to start to follow up by what you just said

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: let me say one more time don't volunteer to go on the block but y'all know while saidric would obviously

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: still be in the game if he hadn't done that it was only the first domino to fall for most of

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_01]: the week it seemed like there would be a big enough gap between that domino and the last run

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: that he would be fine but his time went on more pieces were just put in place against him

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: just the fact that saidric was a member of an alliance that T. Quarren chemo didn't trust was already

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: him being unable to reassure them of their position for the long term was a further strike against him

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Quarren revealing the existence of the pentagon was a strike against all of that group

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and added to those two feeling generally unheard and unappreciated and the final straw was

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_01]: saidric being up against Rubina and T. Quarren especially really wanted to work with her.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: For most of these it was less about saidric doing something wrong than it was about his allies

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_01]: doing something wrong indeed most of those who have victed him had nothing against saidric

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and we even saw chemo crying after he voted saidric was upon in a literal sense they sacrificed

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: him because they couldn't get to the queens or the rooks or the bishops in this round

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: but they still needed to weaken the other side. Sometimes big brother players get voted out because

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: they make terrible mistakes sometimes it's because other people screw up and sometimes it's a

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: combination of the worst of both worlds saidric screwed up big time by voluntary but after that

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: almost everything that played into the decision to evict him was caused by others and his association

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: with them and that is why saidric lost.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Well put, well put. Thank you. All right well we will have our spoiler free predictions in a moment

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[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: As I mentioned these are spoiler free so even though we know you know who won HOH as we're recording

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: this because like I stayed up to watch the wall comp we're not going to talk about anything

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: they happen there and so I wrote this all while I was waiting for the wall comp to start and so

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: had no idea. With that in mind things were completely up in the air as the players head to the wall comp

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: but only four players were out of the loop Chelsea Brooklyn Cam and presumably Quinn.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: If one of them don't win the wall comp all of them are potentially in trouble.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure it's possible there could be a reshift. And maybe even likely but I'm going to say

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: those four will we'll stay the most most likely targets for now. So from a purely math perspective

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say they will not win. Tucker has been bragging all week that he can beat

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: everyone on the wall so we'll find out if he could put his money where his mouth is.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if not I think there are others in that group that have a decent shot and would still target

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: for I mentioned. Cam's name has come up quite a bit because of his physicality.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn's name has come up a lot because he's Quinn and both Chelsea and Brooklyn have been called out

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: as a duo who were in good positions. My guess is the initial nominations will be Quinn,

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: will find a way to get back onto the good side or at least not the really bad side of enough

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: players so that he can stick around like we already saw this past week Joseph when he was talking

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: to Tucker being like no we shouldn't target Quinn we should keep Quinn around. So

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: you know it's possible that he he can stick around and so my prediction is will say goodbye to Cam.

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm a little bit on the different sense of this portion. I've been saying Quinn's

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_04]: doing go home every week basically through some form of twist and it's somehow he is skated his way

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_04]: by before was a long shot now it's looking like a reality like you said I think some math game

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't see there's any world especially when we have three nominations unless Quinn wins

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_04]: his HOH that Quinn doesn't go on the block and then Quinn alongside Brooklyn who I think has

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: a lot of attention on her and I don't know how well she's going to be able to navigate this kind of

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_04]: waste on her you know this on that. I don't know about Cam going yet I wonder if Cam still has

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: some fuel and think I can see Mackenzie going along as his start portion so I think it's going to be Mackenzie

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Mackenzie Quinn and Brooklyn there's also supposed to be an American twist this week I don't

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: know the power I don't know if he's now that's what that power. Yeah they announced it on Thursday

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a big nothing burger. It's literally they just get to because I thought I missed it too

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: when they announced it just that they get to do like some of those imitation videos in the

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: hologram box of other house guests saying something and spread misinformation but everyone's going

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: to know that someone else is doing that and it's not really them and so again it's it's a big nothing

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: which is fine I either have an American vote for a big nothing but anything else. I like that this

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_04]: that's good I like that I will do exactly sure so then if that doesn't play in there that's the

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: three I can go I think Brooklyn ends up going homes somehow I like you as much as I think that Quinn

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_04]: has a chance of going home this week I think they find a way out you are I thought you were leading

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_04]: upwards predicting Quinn again. No I think Quinn will find a way and I also think especially

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: with the BBAI and I don't think Quinn is going to be bad at these competitions if they go straight

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_04]: up between a veto and a BBAI I think there's a chance Quinn comes down I think Brooklyn is going

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_04]: to be a consensus in the house and I also think one reason is you have two local people you

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_04]: have Tucker but you have also Angela I think Angela will be pushing for to say if she isn't the one

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_04]: who doesn't win or isn't a person I think she's going to be pushing for Brooklyn at home.

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[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: we will be back next week who knows what's going to happen?

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Which you could say that every week it seems like but especially now I think who knows what's going

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: to happen but we will be right back here in a week to talk about whoever gets the bad end of it

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll see you then bye.