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[00:01:13] Welcome back to Why ____ Lost for Big Brother 26, as we're here to dazzle you with our glittery commentary. Not the glitter. I'm David Bloomberg and with me once again is my co-host Ovi Kabir, who is definitely not a twit. Thank you, David. I appreciate that.

[00:01:31] I was going to have to accuse you of bullying after I heard that, you know, so I'm glad you clarified on that portion. What a week in Big Brother. I mean, I don't know about you, but I feel like this entire season has been such a fun,

[00:01:43] dynamic season so far that we've gotten. I feel like it's kind of old school Big Brother with the arguments we're getting in here. No, no, no. These arguments, nothing like this has ever happened before. Never, never, ever. Because, you know, people commenting on Facebook,

[00:02:01] people commenting on my own TikToks and Instagram and YouTube. They all say that Angela should have been kicked out for bullying, and this is the worst thing they've ever seen. And I'm just thinking, like, did you start watching this season?

[00:02:17] You know, and I'm not, you know, we'll talk about this a bit later. I'm certainly not defending Angela here. But if you think this is the worst you've ever seen on Big Brother, what that tells me is you've never seen Big Brother.

[00:02:32] Unfortunately, this is a bit mundane compared to past seasons. And if anything, it feels a little, it's better wonders at least it's one-on-one. You know, it's not a full gang against one person publicly at least.

[00:02:46] And so, you know, I like that we had, it was kind of engaging to watch. But also as we saw Angela throw it, Lisa threw a little bit back at her too. I like that back and forth.

[00:02:56] But, you know, there's only, we're not here to talk about Angela today. We're here to talk about somebody else. Yes. And as a matter of fact, last week I predicted they'd get rid of Lisa.

[00:03:05] And then I did a video on my TikTok and I predicted they'd get rid of Lisa. And here we are. I'm one for one. And so, yeah, I mean, it was, it was, you know, good from that standpoint.

[00:03:21] I'm not so good from the standpoint of watching feeds because so much of it was hidden. Which it was interesting because on Wednesday, and I know you said, you know, we're not going to talk that much about Angela and you're right.

[00:03:34] But on Wednesday, they showed a storyline with Angela that it was like, oh, this is why you hid the feed so that she wouldn't get more hate outside the house. Because there are already people like calling her place of employment, which people stop it.

[00:03:55] I don't care how much you dislike a person on Big Brother. Just stop it. But I'm saying that, but I know the people who listen to and watch this podcast aren't the ones doing it. So tell your friends, stop it.

[00:04:08] But, but anyway, but then we go to the Thursday episode and it just buries her. And so for anybody who thought, oh, they were doing it to protect her. The Thursday episode sure didn't protect her. And in fact, I think that, you know, a lot of

[00:04:30] all of that being hidden from the feeds and the show, it was not just a blindside to Angela and Lisa. You know, those of us who watch the feeds still got a lot more information than those who

[00:04:48] were just watching on TV and someone who was in that latter group who just watched on TV. Yeah, they were, I'm sure as shocked and have a lot of questions about why Lisa lost.

[00:05:02] So here we are. We will answer those questions by following the path we always do, comparing how she played to a set of guiding rules I wrote 20 years ago in 2004 and have modified ever since.

[00:05:17] We'll analyze her actions using what we saw on TV, live feeds, interviews, and other information. And of course the most recent version of the rules is posted at robhezwebsite.com bigbrotherrules. Now we've already kind of started getting into some of the things

[00:05:35] that, you know, we talk about beforehand before we get to the rules. But yeah, there's always a few more. One thing I want to mention is Kenny. Just leave, Kenny. That's what I have to say here. Just leave. You don't want to be here. You're moaning and groaning.

[00:06:04] You're happy for like one day when you win a comp and then you go back to moaning and groaning again. But David, is it a play? Is it, is it? No! Is he the new coming of Dan? Is it Dan's funeral but

[00:06:16] Kenny's funeral? Undercover Kenny? You know, there are so many people. So I did a video on this for TikTok too. And there are so many people who are like, oh, this is his big plan. It's not his big plan.

[00:06:29] Okay. He's camera talking to his, to his family saying he doesn't want to be there. And of course, people have a conspiracy for that too. Like, oh, he's doing it in case he's overheard to keep up

[00:06:41] the persona. Oh, stop it. Stop it. People. He doesn't want to be there. He wants to quit. He just doesn't want to actually quit. He wants someone to vote him out. And it's like, no, just

[00:06:58] you're making someone waste an HOH on you. Just go to the diary room and walk out the door. Make everybody happier. I'm on a long, like, choo-choo. I'm on the train of Kenny mastermind

[00:07:11] right here. All right. He has misted David. He has misted the players in there. He's misted everyone. All right. Kenny has a secret Morse code of certain conversations he says to his

[00:07:24] family. They know what's going on. He's right in there to win it. Okay. I think he has us all fooled. So I'm on the choo-choo train for Kenny here, who is completely undercover. And finale night when

[00:07:37] he's on the final two seats, he's going to be like David Obi. I knew you were going to fall for it, but here I am. And so biggest undercover mission ever to be a whiny disgruntled big brother

[00:07:51] contestant. Like, I mean, he was even, you know, he was yelling at people for talking too loud late into the night when he was trying to sleep. Oh yeah. It's like, oh, you know, you guys are going to pay for this in the morning when I'm early.

[00:08:09] I mean, that's what you said. Just, just leave Kenny. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. But really quickly, I want to dial it quickly back to what you were mentioning right before

[00:08:18] head. Cause I know I said, we're not going to talk too much about Angela, but here's the thing, like you mentioned too, it's hard to talk about this season without talking about Angela in these

[00:08:26] things. And I feel like what you did a really good, uh, you know, I got to give you your flowers, David, you navigate that initial monologue into this portion perfectly because I truly believe

[00:08:36] that people who watch the, just the episodes were blindsided yesterday. If anything, I was kind of, I I've been following along and I was convinced I was like, oh, maybe, maybe Angela is going home

[00:08:47] actually. You know, she's there. And then Tucker got himself. Cause I think there's a level of chaos we've been mentioning with the BB AI arena where somebody we think is probably going home.

[00:08:56] If they take themselves down, maybe a last minute second, but if Tucker's still there, they're like, he's a big target. Let's get him out again. I think that would be a little bit more so later

[00:09:06] in the game versus initially because you know, more less likelihood of that, but that element is there. So the idea when we saw Lisa Angelo on there, the way that it's been going to what

[00:09:18] you've been seeing and what we've been seeing on the feet, it would might make you believe that, oh man, like Lisa's good to stay. Um, so it's just a bit confused cause I'm actually excited

[00:09:28] to use, like we always talk about this, even if I don't compare our notes beforehand. So I'm interested to see where you think Lisa faltered to make her go home over Angela and reside.

[00:09:38] Cause there's certain portions where I'm like, was it circumstance? Was it Lisa? So I'm excited to break that down. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, continuing with Angela, obviously at least one

[00:09:48] major thing that happened in terms of her will come up during our discussion of Lisa and the rules. But another thing that happened with Angela was her using her knowledge of Quinn's power as a kind

[00:10:01] of threat, especially after she felt that Quinn set her up to look bad to other players and viewers and the whole situation with T-Core and others that we saw on Wednesday. And all of this goes

[00:10:13] back to the fact that there is no way Quinn should have ever told Angela or anyone else about the power so soon in the game. And now we saw he's kicking himself because he said, who could have

[00:10:26] known she'd turn out to be an emotional loose cannon? Well, nobody could have known that Quinn, which is again, why you don't tell people secrets before you know them.

[00:10:38] Give it a minute. You know, he, he even talked about how it would haunt him for the rest of his life. And he's right. He knows the big brother fandom. We do not forget things. People will be

[00:10:52] bringing this up to him for many years to come. He will be getting on interviews. He will be doing podcasts. He will be showing up at watch parties and people will be like, Hey, look, it's the guy

[00:11:03] who told Angela. Hopefully not. Hopefully this will just be a small blip in Quinn's whole history of big brother. But no, you, you, you are completely right in that. I mean, you know,

[00:11:14] Angela is like in any of my game of Thrones fans out there has a dragons. It's like the opposite of little finger, the person who has all the secrets, but instead of keeping them to themselves,

[00:11:23] she spreads it. And somehow people go to her and tell her the secrets. And, you know, I, again, giving David his kudos because he did predict Lisa would be going home here, but I did throw my hail

[00:11:34] Mary last week where I was saying that because Quinn telling Angela, there's a chance that I think in the world that Quinn will be thrown under the bus and be on the block. It happened this week,

[00:11:44] but I do think the seeds of that happening have been put into the ground and it wasn't the best decision. Yeah, I think it's possible, but so far the conversations, the few that have occurred,

[00:11:58] like when chemo told Tucker after Lisa's, after Angela told Tucker and Tucker didn't believe her. And then chemo was like, nah, actually she's right. Chemo was like, but he's on our side. So that's

[00:12:12] okay. You know? So as long as that happens, I mean, we'll talk more in the predictions at the end. And of course there is a lot more we could talk about with Angela, but I just have a feeling

[00:12:25] we'll be talking about her as the main topic in the very near future. So I don't want to use up all our good material. Okay, okay. Yeah. It might be, or it might be another situation with Cameron, you know,

[00:12:35] where it is how many times do we got to try thinking we're going to write, or jag, where we were writing out our predictions. Angela might be the person that makes it all the way. Could, could.

[00:12:46] Is there anything else you want to discuss about the players before we get to our next regular segment? You know what? I think I am very ready for our next segment right here. I think a lot of our viewers are too.

[00:12:57] Then it is time for Julie Chen-Munvez is wrong about blank. And in this case, it's blank and blank because once again, I have a couple items. First, Julie indicated to Lisa when Lisa came out

[00:13:13] that she was voted out because she was a bigger threat than Angela. And then Julie told Dalton Ross the same thing. She said, bottom line is the house felt Lisa was a tougher competitor to beat.

[00:13:24] So they had to evict her over Angela. No, sorry. No, that is not the bottom line. We've said it before. I'll say it again. Never, ever, ever ask Julie for any strategy related answers because she has no clue.

[00:13:40] We, on the other hand, do know and we'll be talking about it in the next few minutes. Good caveat there. Yes. Dalton also asked Julie why people who don't win the AI arena aren't

[00:13:54] using their time to campaign to save themselves. Sorry, Dalton. That's a silly question. And Julie's answer is, is just plain ridiculous because first she said she wishes she knew. And then she tried

[00:14:07] to make a guess at it, which was, well, I mean, given the name of this segment, wrong. So I will tell her the reason they don't do it is there's no point now. Perhaps Julie doesn't realize this,

[00:14:21] but when she's not there, this is going to blow your mind, Ovi. All these people are locked in a house together all week long. All week? Yeah, and they talk game all week long in between her

[00:14:37] appearances. And in that talking of game, they know there are different possibilities and they discuss them for hours and hours on end. Sounds like an exciting game. Yeah. And so when they are down to two nominees, they already know which of the two they're going to vote for

[00:14:58] because they have talked through the different options. And Julie giving them two minutes to discuss it isn't going to change anything. She could give them an hour to discuss it and it isn't going to change anything, but especially two minutes. This is not a surprise double eviction,

[00:15:16] which is how she's been treating it. It's an event that they planned for and they know what they're doing. And Julie telling them to strategize now is just a silly waste of time. Just move

[00:15:30] along to the speeches, be done with this nonsense. It's interesting because, you know, I agree to you with you to an extent on this one. I do think as the game goes later, because we're not I don't

[00:15:41] know if they finalized when BB arena will be gone. I imagine they have not told us. I'm thinking probably by prejury, I'd be very surprised if it goes past that. But I think maybe as the numbers

[00:15:53] shrink more and more, there might be a little bit more autonomy or ability for a player to make a last minute switch, just because some people would want to talk about like the options

[00:16:06] of both the options, because they don't want to make an enemy yet. You know, when it's the alliances are smaller, less people there. So maybe her saying that down the line could be

[00:16:15] somewhat true. But in Lisa's situation, it isn't. I mean, I think it's never going to be true because they will already talk about that. There was a live feed scene which I have set up to go into

[00:16:26] my tech talk, maybe right after we're done recording. But where Quinn is talking to Mackenzie or I'm sorry, talking to Brooklyn. And they even discuss how they enjoy the arena because

[00:16:44] they can say, oh, yeah, you have my vote. Of course you have my vote. And then if that person wins a arena, they could say, oh, yes, I was behind you the whole way, just like I said,

[00:16:54] you know, and there's no way anybody can fact check them on that. So they already have their plans. They have their backup plans. They know how it's going to go. One minute of running around

[00:17:05] like a chicken with your head cut off isn't going to do anything. Yeah, no, it's it's interesting too, because I've seen a lot of like polarized viewpoints on the BB arena, whether people like

[00:17:18] it or not, if they feel like a stifling certain game. I I'm in the trend. I think it makes it interesting. I think the vote afterward doesn't make as much there. But the idea that somebody

[00:17:27] so at risk, you know, I think for like people watching the show, an episode, you think Angela has been doing all this drama, all this craziness, and she's going to leave

[00:17:35] this week and she wins that. That just is like the level of Angela fans go crazy. The haters go crazy against Angela. Like it's it makes the moment happen. So, yes. Yeah, I think it's interesting

[00:17:50] to see that in play. Yeah. Yeah. So far, I'm enjoying it, which is weird for me to say I'm enjoying it. I know a twist that David Bloomberg likes. Yeah. So. All right. Well, then we're going

[00:18:03] to move on to the rules. But before we get there, I do want to mention that the survivor version of these rules comes in a shorter and much more colorful version in poster form. You can go to

[00:18:15] rob his website dot com slash YX loss feed. Scroll down to the poster, click on it, order it. It'll be mailed out to you. And then, of course, in addition to the poster, we have the poster on a

[00:18:26] T-shirt and the checklist on a T-shirt with the checklist being very close or not exact to the Big Brother rules. And yes, we know we have to get moving on that. It's it's just a lot of possible

[00:18:39] things to do. So. With that. In Lisa's pregame interview, she said she would win because, quote, I am the best and I'm in it to win it. As I noted in our preview podcast, it wasn't that simple.

[00:18:59] And indeed, I rated her very low in terms of her chances to do well in following my rules, in part because she just planned to cook and be a good human. While it wasn't clear what her actual

[00:19:13] game strategy would be. So where did she fail in those areas and others? After all, she said in multiple interviews that she doesn't think she made any mistakes and wouldn't change much, which, of course, is ridiculous considering she was voted out second. How did she get evicted

[00:19:28] rather than Angela of all people? At RHAP, we know reality TV and we know why Lisa lost. So we're going to start by switching things up a little bit here. I know it's just the

[00:19:43] second podcast of the season, but we're going to start with the fifth rule, which says players need to pretend to be nice and play the social game. Because while not all of Lisa's problems stemmed

[00:19:56] from her performance in this rule, an awful lot of them did. And yeah, I know the eviction episode made it seem like Angela started everything between her and Lisa and that Lisa was almost

[00:20:09] some sort of innocent victim. That's not quite the way it happened. As Kimo told Angela after she called Lisa a twit multiple times, Angela could have handled it differently. But that doesn't absolve Lisa because although it wasn't shown on TV, Lisa said in the first week to Angela

[00:20:30] that it would compromise her integrity to be associated with Angela both inside and outside the house. And now the two of them didn't speak for almost two weeks. So is it any wonder that Angela was pissed at her? I think anyone would be in that situation.

[00:20:50] Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because I think we talked about this with Matt last season, where sometimes Matt last season, Matt, this season, excuse me. When he went home, it was interesting because it's some portions of your own doings, your cast, Angela being in power.

[00:21:09] I think, unfortunately, Lisa is a very nice person and she has a lot of good qualities in her. I don't think it's the cast that sent her home in this essence. You put Lisa on any other cast.

[00:21:21] She's probably going home because the same things. And so it's not because she went against Angela. It's truly number five. And that's a portion of it. She went against a wrecking ball that

[00:21:32] wasn't stopping there. Angela also knew she needed to make her targets big. She needs to put it on somebody else and try to put as much dirt on them as she can. With Lisa, it was the social game,

[00:21:41] playing nice. I mean, I don't think I've ever seen any because arguably, you know, we could both sit here and make the argument that Angela was a bigger threat. She was probably maybe for

[00:21:51] some people's games better to go home or whatnot. At the end of day, Lisa's social game is what sunk her, her inability to. And it's weird because she was a nice person, but things became grating

[00:22:05] on everybody around her. And that's exactly it. She does seem to be in a vacuum, a nice enough person. But she pissed off so many people. It wasn't just Angela. She had a terrible social

[00:22:21] game. And it started out from the very first few moments in the house when Tucker was introducing himself and she jumped in to interrupt when he mentioned he's a chef. She couldn't let him have

[00:22:32] that one moment. You know, other house guests later talked about it on the feeds like that is your moment to introduce yourself. And she jumped in and took that from him. And so that immediately,

[00:22:45] of course, made an enemy out of Tucker. And, you know, it just continued from there. She told Mike Bloom she always thought it was friendly banter with Tucker when they talked about who had the

[00:22:56] best cooking. And that was clearly a misread on her part. And of course, it didn't stop there. She had her edible glitter, which she felt the need to spread everywhere no matter how many times people told her no. Four different people mentioned her glitter in their goodbye messages.

[00:23:15] For example, as the problems that she had, Lisa made breakfast on Joseph's birthday this week, which by the way, if you didn't watch the feeds, yes, it was Joseph's birthday. That's why they were wearing tiny party hats. Sometimes they didn't explain it anywhere on the show. So

[00:23:32] that's the big brother fandom for you, though. You know, they don't even blink at people walking around funny hats. But anyway, she made breakfast and said out loud to us on live feeds, it's a day

[00:23:46] for edible glitter and even acknowledged some people don't like it, but they can deal with it because it's his birthday. This is just such bad social gameplay for no reason. It's so difficult because I don't know, it's almost like you write. It felt like a character

[00:24:06] in a sitcom, you know, where there's a laugh track behind it that they're being so oblivious to certain of these true social cues that people aren't liking it. And comparative to many other

[00:24:18] cast, this cast is a people surprised but kinder cast than many others where they're really just trying to, you know, not make it anything more than just game. They have issues, they'll talk

[00:24:28] about it. People are trying to, I found, try to give her the benefit of the doubt, maybe other than Tucker because he was very put off by her. But she continuously, you know, wasn't just the

[00:24:38] glitter, it was the oils, essential oils she put on the pillows. I mean, it's I think people have a frustration. Let's explain that so that people who don't watch live feeds or don't listen to this

[00:24:48] podcast in the when she got moved into the have not room, she went around. I mean, she like spritz things everywhere, but then she specifically rubbed essential oils into the pillowcases where people are going to be putting their faces. Yes. Of other people's beds.

[00:25:07] Stop it. Go ahead. You had other examples. No, no, it's it's it's I'm just like in I'm just rethinking about it all. As you mentioned that push and it gets me, you know, because it's so surprising because here's the thing in Big Brother House, you're

[00:25:21] going in there and the first initial weeks are a little strange in a way that is you have to forgo some of your personal boundaries that you have in your everyday world, whether you're sharing

[00:25:32] a bed with somebody new, whether you're like sharing things, one bathroom, you know, and to get through the game, you know what you sign up for. You have to be OK with that. But it also is

[00:25:40] an adjustment period. And now you have this person who's throwing glitter on everything and no one's like, are you crazy? I don't like this. No, everyone else doesn't like this because they're

[00:25:49] keeping me. OK, it is what it is. It's just a personality. And then they put central oils like that would throw me on like my pillow is my sacred testament. That's on my head. I don't even

[00:25:58] like people lying on my bed. If you have like I don't I'm the separate. I don't like you using my like take off the case. I'll put another pillowcase in there. I just it's not my thing.

[00:26:07] I think a lot of people are like that. So the idea, it just keeps on leveling up. And I think the sitcom area is that she for her whole throughout the whole thing. And that's why

[00:26:17] I kind of feel bad. You know, this is where she's not doing this maliciously. She and her whole time thinking is thinking people are really enjoying these portions of what she's doing,

[00:26:27] which is so sad. I think if she took away the antics and kind of toned it down, she could have gone along and wouldn't been a target. Then she went to been true to herself.

[00:26:37] And we'll get to more of that. But but the sitcom thing is just really making me think as I'm sitting here running through stuff like I can see her looking at the camera and going, yeah,

[00:26:46] and now I'm going to put some edible glitter on and then the laugh track, you know, or whatever, because, yeah, that's totally what it was. And so there are so many different things that she did.

[00:27:00] We only have time for a few people did not believe she was really a chef because her cooking was either bad or just weird, even aside from the glitter. She made food that

[00:27:13] people didn't like. She handled it in ways that put them off. T-Core said she saw Lisa pick up an ice cube off the floor, lick it and put it in a glass. Tucker said she sticks her fingers into

[00:27:27] the olive jar, eats olives and then later pours the olives into a bowl for other people after she's been sticking her fingers in. And, you know, all of these things just add up. And like you said,

[00:27:42] you know, it's like, oh, am I the only one annoyed? No, you're annoyed, too. OK. They were literally there was a group in the H.O.H. room talking through her annoyances of the day.

[00:27:52] Oh, and so I know many TV viewers wonder how could the house guests want to keep Angela with the way she acted? But the TV viewers don't know about everything Lisa did. Yeah, and it's again

[00:28:06] like it's so unfortunate because those type of things, whether they're always true or not, when one thing starts, it starts to boulder up. And when there's already some tendencies that everyone universally can find grading, Lisa became that person. And I think here's a difficulty,

[00:28:20] especially when you're cooking in the Big Brother house. You have so many people from different backgrounds, so many different tastes and palates. I worry that I'm not saying her food. I imagine

[00:28:30] she's a celebrity. She's probably a good cook, a great chef outside of here that she might not be able to do what she was cooking might be different to people's palates there. And well, that was

[00:28:42] like Brooklyn in her goodbye message. I mean, she was joking, but she said, as soon as you told me no butter, that was it. You were dead, you know, or something to that effect, you know? And I mean,

[00:28:53] yeah, it's healthy or not to use butter. She's right. But you're not here to force your health ideas on these other players. Yes, they don't want you to. It's one of the things is a catch

[00:29:06] point to write is a double edged sword where I got some people we've seen in the past. Their cooking has kept them in a house or point where people like we really like we buy them.

[00:29:15] But if they don't enjoy your cooking in any shape or form, it turns the whole bank is it now? Because one of those things like when somebody offers you food, especially in the Big Brother

[00:29:23] house, it's such a bad taste. Like I don't want to eat this. I'm not going to do what you made, you know, especially those initial weeks. You're going to eat it probably or just, you know,

[00:29:31] so that person continually tries to persist in doing that for your own self preservation. I got to get them out. I got to get them out. So yeah. And the thing is, Lisa, I know she's just

[00:29:44] now out of the house, but she still doesn't really get it. When Mike Bloom asked her about some of the things she did, she said, perception in the Big Brother house is everything. And the

[00:29:53] things that make me a professional vibe curator are my vibes, the essence, the Zen, as well as the edible glitter. So if those signature things don't didn't land in the house, they definitely

[00:30:06] do in the real world. Perception is a crazy concept in the house. Anything can be seen through the Big Brother lens. So I'm not quite sure where that disconnect happened. I was authentically myself throughout the whole time. And it's funny that she doesn't know where the disconnect happened

[00:30:22] because she literally described it in that answer I just quoted. She wasn't in the real world. She was in the Big Brother house. She knows perception is different there, but she didn't

[00:30:32] do anything to change the perception of her. She wanted to be her authentic self. But her authentic self was annoying the hell out of people. It doesn't matter if her clients think edible glitter

[00:30:48] or essential oil or her vibes are the greatest thing in the world. She wasn't with her clients or others who specifically choose to be in her company. She was with a wide variety of other

[00:30:59] personalities who did not choose to be with her, and she didn't adjust to that at all. Yeah, I mean, I, again, I think she's probably really wonderful and the authentic person outside of the house,

[00:31:13] probably a very fun person to be around for those moments. But kind of like when you travel with your best friend, when you go on a trip, you know, sometimes they don't room with your best friend in

[00:31:21] college. They always say, and when you take a trip, there's people you might love, but when you trip with them, you might hate them by the end of it. Because when you're around people 24 seven,

[00:31:29] there are certain tendencies they'll do that you don't have to deal with or live with. And that's no exactly reflection of that person. It's just, you guys don't vibe right. So in the other house, all her tendencies are authentic self that she was showing just didn't vibe with

[00:31:45] the people there. So because of this, her social game, this rule number five, and that's what we're talking about at first is really the major thing that sunk her game. Yeah. All right. Well, I think

[00:31:55] we may have made our point in rule number five here. We could go back to the first rule, which is the scheme and plot. You know, as I mentioned earlier, I didn't know what Lisa's actual planned

[00:32:09] strategy was going to be as she came into the game. As it turns out, because she didn't really have one, at least not as far as we saw. She was one of Angela's initial nominees in week one

[00:32:21] because she wasn't really doing much and indeed didn't seem to realize that she had to, you know, play the game until Matt and Angela both told her. And then she won veto and was safe. And, you know,

[00:32:36] she thought she was in on the correct plan, but saw Matt get evicted while she was only one of three who voted to keep him. She would later say, I didn't know that much of the house was aligned

[00:32:47] to vote together against Matt. And I think that's a big part of the problem here. She didn't know she was out of the loop and she stayed out of the loop all the way until she was blindsided herself.

[00:32:59] Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, she was put in a harder position week one when she's on the block. She has to win veto to get herself out. So typically we see when players that happens

[00:33:10] to them, they kind of puts a fire under their butt to understand like, OK, I need to figure out what we need to do for next week, as people usually know when you're on the block, especially

[00:33:19] in the beginning, you're going to be on the block probably again. So you wanted to start strategizing with it. But what we really saw with her is there wasn't as she couldn't play the game

[00:33:27] I think she initially wanted to play because of that target on her back right away. And unbeknownst to her, she had Tucker kind of working behind the scenes trying to get go for her. But we really saw

[00:33:38] her not really ally with anyone specifically other than Leah. And I don't think she tried to make any true intentional strategic attempts to make a pathway with other players in there. I mean, we saw you and I that her and Angela no conversation two weeks in after that.

[00:33:58] Again, I'm not saying you need to be buddy buddy with the H.O.H. who puts you up there, but seeing that destruction happen afterwards, the intention, it might be good, especially when you see Angel basically turn on a dime against Matthew from what their perception

[00:34:14] would have been from her perception. But maybe I need to shore up everything, make sure everything is there. You can see that at Alisa. Yeah. You mentioned lighting a fire under her. There was

[00:34:25] a fire lit at the wrong time and handled in the wrong way, which we'll get to in the second rule. But but getting back to, you know, her not doing much of anything. I mentioned,

[00:34:38] of course, that three players voted to keep Matt in the game right after becoming H.O.H. Chelsea told T-Core that she didn't trust any of those three because none had tried to talk game with her.

[00:34:50] Well, two of those players rectified the situation. Lisa did not. Indeed, the one time she said she lied this week was by insisting that she had not voted to keep Matt. But since McKenzie and Leah basically did admit it, this made Lisa an obvious liar and players

[00:35:12] look for other lies that she must have been telling. For example, we saw Tucker on Thursday's episode going through his whole routine of telling her I can tell when you're lying, even when we knew

[00:35:25] she wasn't lying about the power superpower issue. But the problem was her one lie was just such a bad lie. And because of it, people didn't trust her, even on the most basic and non game related

[00:35:42] things like doubting she was actually a chef. She barely schemed and her one attempt to do so was too obvious. But even today, as she did her interviews, she told Sharon Tharp that

[00:35:55] she stood by that decision because she didn't want people to doubt any words that were coming out of her mouth. She doesn't realize that lying so obviously was what made people doubt the other

[00:36:08] words that were coming out of her mouth. It just takes one bad lie in any type of relationship, right? Friendship, romantic relationships, especially in the big brother to you. That makes you start to look back with Heinstein. How true is this? It puts a little smirk and makes

[00:36:24] things blurry. And unfortunately, with Lisa, when she lied about something like that quite badly, and also for very little gain, it did not work in her favor. And so, and this comes back to her

[00:36:35] ability of not having really anyone to scheme and plot without Leah, even though that relationship was very one sided, it seemed like even Leah entertained bits and pieces of it. She had no ability at that point to kind of work from there after she sunk her ship.

[00:36:51] Yeah, and even when she was nominated this time, she was still playing overcautiously. She even asked Chelsea at one point if it was okay, if someone else won the veto and wanted to take her down, would that be okay with Chelsea? Like, really? You're asking permission to lobby

[00:37:07] to get someone to keep you safe? I'm sorry, but that's insane. Now, it obviously didn't matter. But, you know, then fast forward to Wednesday, when we saw her on live feeds, and I want to give credit to Hamsterwatch for noting in a tweet that she told Kenny,

[00:37:24] I'm not trying to talk too much game right now. And Hamsterwatch was like, you're on the block on a Wednesday and you don't want to talk too much game? It's, I think there's nothing more that people kick themselves. And I say it from my own experience,

[00:37:42] like, when you think you're going home or if you're on the block in any state, like, you want to throw everything against the wall. It doesn't matter if you're not,

[00:37:50] you just want to throw it all just to try, you know? And so because I remember when I was on the block, going home without that twist, you see the writing on your walls in so many ways and

[00:38:01] pieces that you just you start campaigning your butt off, you're scared you're gonna lose it. So I think I've talked to other people through the worst feeling is like, yes, there's going home, going home with a blindside, knowing that you really didn't everything out there, you know?

[00:38:16] Because when you go home and like you've campaigned every single person you've talked to them, you've put it all out there. It's you know, when you play a basketball game or whatever

[00:38:24] competition you might compete in, right? You put all on the field, the court, at the end of the day, I did my best. I can't beat the six, four person who's gonna dunk on me, you know?

[00:38:34] And in this situation for Lisa, she didn't put it all out there. She was holding her cards and thinking that would be work for her when it didn't. Right. All right, well, we could move

[00:38:47] on to the second rule, which says not to scheme and plot too much and to keep your scheming secret. And it might seem like we won't have much to say here since we just talked about Lisa not

[00:38:55] scheming enough. But one thing that I referenced when we talked about the discussion of the first week, because I was saving it for now, was that after Matt and Angela instructed her on the need

[00:39:08] to scheme, she swung the pendulum too much in the other direction, campaigned to everyone in the house to the point that she went from being someone nobody wanted to target to possibly being the target in week one if she hadn't won veto. She was holding one-on-one conversations like

[00:39:28] she was the HOH or something. And that kind of or something, that really got people looking at her more closely because some of them started to feel like she must have one of the secret upgrade

[00:39:43] powers because why else would she be acting like that? Now, we of course knew she didn't, but she only got worse after winning veto and becoming safe. Like she was just acting in a

[00:39:54] certain way, kind of like on Survivor when someone gets an immunity idol and they start walking around being like, you know, acting like, oh I'm all safe. And she was doing that even though she

[00:40:05] didn't have immunity. Yeah, it's the pendulum truly swung the other way. And you know, like I said before, but there's a time and place for this when you're campaigning and having the idea of backing

[00:40:20] off, talking to your Alliance members and finding what's the right way to get it. I think there's a little of a, it's tough dynamic this season too because you have the BB arena there. So you have

[00:40:29] three people there. You have two chances to basically get yourself off and on. So I think some people might feel a little overconfident even on the block. I mean, I think that was for Tucker

[00:40:39] this week, you know, I think a horrible decision, horrible decision for Tucker to be go on the block. I mean, yes, it worked out this week, but someone was thinking now he's always on the block.

[00:40:49] All right. He's been on the block. It can be an excuse to put him back on. He's on there. And if one of them win, you know, the thing and Tucker's right there, he made somebody upset a

[00:40:56] few hours before he could go home. So it's strange to be so reliant on the BB arena. And I wonder if that is making people hesitant in there and maybe made her think that she doesn't need to,

[00:41:09] from her viewpoint this week, over strategize and over pop. But this week alone, she did not do that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, the third rule talks about the need to be flexible. So

[00:41:21] I'm pretty sure I know how you're going to answer this, but how do you think Lisa did in terms of her obvious flexibility? Yeah, I don't. I think the most flexible thing she was able to do was like

[00:41:34] find every room and every corner to put like edible glitter. And like there was no portion that wasn't like she was going all around with that. And which is a shame, because again, I

[00:41:46] it's it's one of those things where right, like you are cast on the show with a certain personality and you have to put that personality and rank it up to 200 to 300 percent. You know, they say true

[00:41:57] to yourselves, but we always say double yourself for casting and things like that go into the house. Now, you got to turn that down, not all the way to 100 percent, but probably the 50 to 20

[00:42:07] percent, you know. And because of this, it was the issue that I don't even know if she was in. OK, first of all, she wasn't flexible in the game. Let's get that out of the way. I think that's

[00:42:19] pretty clear. But I don't know if it was an inability to be flexible or not the understanding that she needs to be flexible right now. You know, I. Yeah, I think it's both. I don't think

[00:42:30] flexibility is in her arsenal. You know, we talked about in the fifth rule you just mentioned again, she kept pushing that damn edible glitter, even openly acknowledged that some people didn't

[00:42:43] like it, but she was going to do it anyway. And it was just one symptom of her insisting on doing Lisa things no matter what anyone else thought. You know, it's Lisa doing Lisa things,

[00:42:54] like you said, put the laugh track behind it. It's it's clear that she didn't consider what other people thought in most cases, and she seemed somewhat oblivious to the opinions others held of her and only cared about being herself, even as she said she understood perceptions could

[00:43:15] be different. I have to think that maybe the long term plan, you know how Matthew was saying, or he said this in a live feed his first week that I think a lot of, unfortunately,

[00:43:26] big brother plays you go on the show nowadays again. Now it's like funny to say this as I'm podcasting on here with David. I was recruited by David brought me on. This is David's one.

[00:43:36] I'm there with him. But he was saying, I can't wait to be, you know, do some TikTok live podcast, et cetera, et cetera. I have to think maybe somewhere in Lisa's world that she wants

[00:43:45] to start her own line of edible glitter or she has two businesses. I mean, she she taught she promoted them in every interview. Let me tell you, one of them is like. Well, I'm not going to

[00:43:57] mention that she can mention it or something, but she has two businesses. David said no free promo. Yeah, exactly. But. So she didn't mention those in the house, you know, because she didn't want

[00:44:12] people to know that she had these businesses. She's just a chef and it's like they went to believe anyway, Lisa. Yeah, I don't know. I just that's the only thing I can think in my head was

[00:44:22] why she would push it so heavily that that Lisa's edible glitter eventually, you know, on finale night, she says, you know. Yeah. Forget forget confetti. We want to douse the winner in edible

[00:44:33] glitter. Yes. She'll be up there. She'll be up there from the non-juror side, uh, throwing glitter at the winner. Uh, it's just if she doesn't, that is a true missed opportunity. That is. All right. Well, the fourth rule says players should not let their emotions control them.

[00:44:52] What do you think about Lisa in this regard? I know we saw her crying, obviously, on Thursday's episode. But besides that, what did you think? It's interesting because like I there's portions of it where I want to say yes,

[00:45:04] but also I think there was a what I appreciated from Lisa. I think here's the thing is like in the game. Yeah. And I say for somebody who probably didn't have it very much or the killer

[00:45:14] instinct, right? You go in there when you turn it into game and you either, you know, it's a fight or flight. I also felt that the conversation she had with Angela, you know, with the twit,

[00:45:26] that the twit comment, other things like that she was able to, I mean, of course, it impacted her. I felt like she reeled it in a way where she kept thinking that, OK, if I put back my emotions,

[00:45:36] I can trust the people around us. So I don't feel like Lisa played super emotionally or let her emotions control her. From my perspective, I think it was just a little of an awareness of the

[00:45:47] surroundings of things because I think it hurt her feelings, obviously. But I don't know how much I guided her game. So I don't think emotions are the reason why her game went down. Yeah.

[00:45:57] I you know, I think maybe if she actually actually acted a little bit more emotional about those things against Angela in this situation might have turned things a little more even differently.

[00:46:08] I don't know. Maybe. I mean, I think that she had some issues controlling her emotions. And I am, again, by no means defending the way Angela treated her. But it's not like she was banging

[00:46:19] pots and pans at her or dumping a drink over her head. As we talked about earlier, we've seen much worse. And people who go into Big Brother should expect some conflict. I mean,

[00:46:31] when you went in, did you expect everybody to be super nice to you or did you expect there would be I know you didn't expect what ended up happening. But did you expect there to be? Yeah, yeah.

[00:46:42] A conflict. Yeah. And I think you mentioned I think also you have the idea that like there's going to hope not hopefully, but there's gonna be a one on one con if there's any conflict, it's going to be you versus versus like I said,

[00:46:55] first a group thing. So like in this situation, for Lisa, it was probably the best case of conflict you hoped there to be is one person versus you, somebody on the outs as well versus

[00:47:03] somebody who's in a majority alliance arguing with you. Yeah. And I mean, like we said, she wasn't innocent herself. And I'm sorry, being called a twit of all things should not send a

[00:47:16] grown adult into a crying fit when you're playing this game. And we heard at least one person comment to that effect. You know, it was funny because Andy Heron was on Twitter and he is

[00:47:27] known, of course, for sharing his opinions on Twitter. And he was like, really? You cried over that? Just call her name back. Twit isn't that bad, you know, but I love me. I love me, Andy.

[00:47:41] But also, you know, he had a different experience on his season as well. His level of what they all had to take on might be a little different than, you know, yeah, the bar might be a little

[00:47:51] different than what it is. Yeah. But like you said, did it contribute much to her losing? Probably not. I think it was just a symptom of a situation that started when she cut all ties

[00:48:02] with Angela and therefore eliminated possible avenues in the game. Yeah. All right. Well, we can we already talked about the fifth rule, of course, so we can go to the sixth, which warns

[00:48:13] against being too much of a threat. And I've already said earlier that Julie was wrong to say that this was the bottom line reason Lisa was voted out. However, it did, like so many other

[00:48:24] things, contribute. Was she more of a comp threat than Angela? Sure. You know, they seem to think so and they attributed Angela's H.O.H. win to luck while giving Lisa a bit more credit. But even with

[00:48:38] that in mind, it's not like she was targeted for being a comp piece. They didn't nominate her because she was a comp piece. It's she was better than Angela and no offense to Angela,

[00:48:52] but that's not exactly a high bar to set. You know, Angela has more wins than some people in this house, both her and Lisa. So what I will say, though, I think with the threat level,

[00:49:03] I think it's actually this rule is somewhat accurate. No, I should say something. I think it's accurate for Lisa in this instance, because a couple of reasons we always say your threat level doesn't matter comparatively to the house, who you're on the block with. Right. Once you get

[00:49:16] an amulet, you want to get nominated. Yes. So there was that instance. I think Lisa probably was a little bit more threatening across the board. But I also think, too, is that perceived threat and specifically and whether it's conscious, unconscious, Tucker saw her as a huge

[00:49:30] threat where he convinced himself and other people when they actually kind of already knew it wasn't her. But they still almost believe that she had a power. And also this idea he thought she was

[00:49:40] coming for him because the Cook comments, all these everything like that, which I think, again, I wish we could get like a mega reel of Lisa. And if I'm out there saying all the things

[00:49:49] to Tucker and her thinking like, oh, we're having a great commodity, this is a good friend will be great. And like she's after me, she's trying to take my boy. Like it was so lost in translation

[00:49:59] here that Tucker thought she was enemy number one. And I've never seen somebody actually. We've seen it before, but it's almost ironic to see somebody go so hard against somebody else without them even

[00:50:13] knowing, you know. And the funny thing is, we did discuss somewhat in the preview podcast. I mean, we were kind of joking about it, but we said, oh, two of them that want to use this cooking. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Turned out to be, you know, to happen. See,

[00:50:29] we're even more accurate than we know. It's making predictions here and there. Yeah. So, yeah. The thing is about the secret power idea, we already discussed how her lie about the map vote made people more suspicious about her in general. And sure, they were all wrong,

[00:50:49] but it was the way she acted that led them to that incorrect conclusion. And so, you know, everyone thought there must be a reason for it. Now, in her case, the reason is she's she's a little de lulu, but they interpreted it as feeling secure because

[00:51:04] of a power. Yeah. But there's two things going on here. One, like we said. This was after she was nominated, comparing her to Angela, you know, who's who's more of a danger. But Chelsea had

[00:51:20] Lisa as a target from the start. You know, so you can't only compare her to Angela when she was, in fact, compared to the whole house to even be nominated to begin with. And then second,

[00:51:31] even after Tucker found out Lisa didn't have a power, it did not change his plan to get rid of her, which again shows that her being a supposed threat was not the primary reason. No, it wasn't.

[00:51:46] It wasn't. But, you know, I think this last reason I'm curious to think, do you feel like this one is I think we can agree our first reason social game that was the thing that helped paint

[00:51:58] her. But I think arguably this next rule might be the reason second most reason she went home to. I mean, yeah, the seventh rule says to trust almost nobody. And allow me to quote from Lisa's

[00:52:10] post eviction interview with Julie. No one was really speaking the truth to me, which is really shocking. And she also said the House fully agreed that they would evict Angela this week.

[00:52:21] And that was discussed with me. It just seemed that Lisa was so shocked that people would lie to her face. On Big Brother. You know, she even told Sharon Tharp that she didn't think anybody was

[00:52:36] lying when she talked to them. On Big Brother, it's so tough, like because it's so tough that I feel she truly was so unaware with the way the game was going from all this stuff that she was doing that

[00:52:54] really rubbed people the wrong way. And I think what's most shocking to her is this everyone blindsiding her, you know, that she like the idea that no one could like her authentic self

[00:53:06] in the Big Brother house. It just comes like, you know, a sideline to it. That's why we saw. I mean, man, it was like a puppy and kicked when she realized it was her. And then when she was

[00:53:16] sitting with Julie, it wasn't one of those funny evictions where like, ah, because it was just like the realization that, you know, like the good blindside. It was kind of fun.

[00:53:26] See this. Did you want to hurt me? Because it's like I don't know, because I feel like she's a good person in doubt and deep. And it was just like you trusted everyone. And she didn't have

[00:53:36] an ally in the house, realizing not a single ally in the house told her that, like, hey, you know, I'm going to tell you you're going home again with the BBA. It's a little tough thing to

[00:53:46] do. Right. And I think I do think that was one reason they did it was so that whether intentionally or not, because I hesitate to give production too much credit for thinking these things through,

[00:53:57] unless they've heard podcasts. But. Yeah, you really can't whisper to someone, by the way, you're going. Yeah, because then what happens if they win BBA? They come back to you and they're

[00:54:11] like, excuse me, what were you saying about me going? Yeah. So it's more likely to be a blind side because of that. Yeah, it's it's tough because the more I think about it, too, it puts

[00:54:25] people on the block. Yes, it gives them an advantage, but a super big disadvantage because they can't do any coalition building in there because no person wants to stick out their neck

[00:54:33] for somebody to get somebody else home if they stay there, you know. So, yeah, it's she was in a troublesome situation, if anything, the BBA arena was her best shot to stay in the house.

[00:54:45] Oh, it was in general because I gave her another shot there. But yeah, she yeah. And it was an interview. She she thought she said, I thought I had eight votes for to stay. You know, I thought

[00:54:55] I was here and yeah. She did. All right. Well, it's about time to wrap things up. So what are your final thoughts about Lisa? Man, I think. I think sometimes you go home because of the cast

[00:55:11] around you, sometimes you go home because of factors out of your control twist and sometimes you go home because your own actions and sometimes they're not even game related. Truly.

[00:55:20] This was Lisa. She was a pure example of how you really need to come into the big brother house and not play this level of social game from her glitter to her essential oils,

[00:55:34] to even the cooking. It's one of those things where if Lisa truly did none of that, there's a chance that she literally would have been able to just kind of go through the house and be safe.

[00:55:43] But that's not who Lisa is, because that's not who she was cast to be either. Lisa is this very bubbly person who wants to be around everyone, show her skills. And I love that for her. And I

[00:55:55] hope that it seems like it has met her great success outside of Big Brother House did not happen inside this big brother house. I hope she can take in this experience and find the joy in

[00:56:05] it rather than the negative parts of it. But yeah, truly, the biggest sinking of her ship was a social game element. And just I think for anybody, you know, this is somebody who tried cooking

[00:56:16] cookies for people in the big brother house. There's a lot of people who've been trying to cook people in the big brother. Just don't do it. If we can learn anything from Lisa

[00:56:24] and me, just try to do something other than cook for people in the house and you'll find a better way to stay in there. Well, Julie can talk about Lisa being a threat. Maybe Lisa even believes it,

[00:56:36] but it's simply untrue. More likely to win comps than Angela? Sure, probably. But so what? That was only an issue after she was already nominated. The fact is that people disliked or distrusted Lisa

[00:56:49] so much that even after everything Angela did to effectively try to get herself voted out, they still evicted Lisa. As we've discussed, Lisa mostly did this to herself. No, she didn't actually

[00:57:03] have a secret power, but the way she acted made people think she did. Her adamant refusal to admit how she voted the first time caused a loss of trust with people who knew better

[00:57:15] and it made them suspect her of even more nefarious things. Her overall behavior had annoyed people and created rifts right from the first few minutes of the game. She was dedicated to being her authentic self, even when it was clear that her authentic self was pissing people off.

[00:57:34] In real life, I'm sure Lisa has found people who are happy to have her glittery personality around them, but people who don't can just shake their heads and walk away. In the Big Brother house,

[00:57:47] everything is amplified. You can't just walk away. You have to deal with them day in and day out, unless of course you get rid of them. Lisa told us in the preseason that she planned to cook her

[00:57:59] way into people's hearts, but that clearly didn't happen and in fact was another source of tension, as was almost everything she did, it seemed. Lisa was not built for a game where you have strangers

[00:58:12] spending that much time with you in a confined space and where you need to be able to read how people are reacting to you and adjust your behavior accordingly. And that is why Lisa lost.

[00:58:26] Well said. Thank you. All right, well, I want to mention before we continue into our spoiler-free predictions that I will be on the RHAP Sunday night episode recap this week, so just a couple

[00:58:40] days from as we're recording this. So be sure to watch, to listen, to find out what I have to say there when I'm not just talking about rules. In addition, if you want our full spoilery thoughts,

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[00:59:38] been commenting on there. So really, David is kind of a rising star on the TikTok platform. So you should give him a look. Past survivor player? Uh oh, now I have to figure out who

[00:59:48] those were. But yeah, since Big Brother has started, I've been posting three or even more videos per day on TikTok, YouTube and Instagram. They're a combination of obviously Big Brother. They're mostly about Big Brother. And, you know, they cover both the show and the live feeds.

[01:00:05] I've also got stuff from Claim to Fame, The Amazing Race Canada and The Traders New Zealand. Speaking of The Traders New Zealand, I am still co-hosting the TRADAR podcast to recap and analyze

[01:00:17] the two episodes each week. You can find the TRADAR spelled T-R-A-I-D-A-R on your usual podcast host Orr's audio on YouTube. And the finale for that is coming up. Woo-hoo! So, predictions. And as I mentioned, our predictions are spoiler free.

[01:00:37] That means we write them up before we know the outcome of the HOH Con. So let me start by what I want to have happen. Okay. Which is going to be exactly zero surprise because I want Penny to be nominated because he wants to

[01:00:56] and then see him not win Veto or AI Arena and just get him where he wants to be, the hell out of the Big Brother house. And I know I said this would be a waste for whoever's HOH it is.

[01:01:07] Maybe they can view it as not getting blood on their hands. I don't know. But even when the feeds came back on just after the eviction, but before the HOH Con, he said something about, it wasn't clear, but it sounded like he said

[01:01:23] something about being on the block and winning Veto, but then using it on someone else. Like, yeah. So there's your big, big plan there. I would be perfectly happy if he did that too and got voted out. But here's the unfortunate thing. I don't see it happening.

[01:01:40] He moans about not wanting to be there. And then there's a comp and he just can't help it. It's like there's this internal war with himself. I want to go home. I want to go home. Oh, I have to win this comp.

[01:01:52] Oh, no, I want to go home. I want to, you know, come on already, pick a lane. Anyway, no matter who wins HOH, so I still think he'll be nominee unless he happens to win HOH.

[01:02:06] No matter who wins HOH, I think another one will be Angela because she's Angela. And this time I do believe she will be the actual target. It will be interesting to see how long her joy and thankfulness lasts from her

[01:02:22] surprising non eviction and how long it'll take for her usual paranoia to return. I suspect not very long. The third nominee will depend on who wins HOH. I'm going to say it'll be Leah because several players have been annoyed in her showman's

[01:02:39] behavior, but in the end, I don't think she'll have anything to worry about. So with all that said, I think it's time for Angela to go. That's why I didn't want to say too much at the top of the podcast because,

[01:02:53] you know, my prediction is we'll be talking about her a lot next week. As Chelsea said to us on Thursday's episode, she wanted to get rid of both Angela and Lisa this week. And there have been discussions looking ahead to next week already

[01:03:09] saying they'd get rid of whoever wasn't evicted this week. And I think that's what will happen. So bye, Angela. Interesting. You know, it's funny because we do do these things. Spoiler for you. I have taken an extra step in this week.

[01:03:24] I haven't even checked any of the Twitter updates. I have no clue who has won HOH at this point even. So we are on the same track very similarly, but I'm going to throw my Hail Mary like I love to do.

[01:03:36] I think we're going to see some form of Kenny and Angela for sure up there. I also think with the BB arena, we don't really see people be put on ponds yet back door.

[01:03:46] I think people are just putting them straight up on there because they have three people there. If you put somebody else anyways, and you mean you have to basically nominate four people, potentially five people, etc. So those three or sorry, those two, Angela and Angela and Kenny.

[01:04:02] And then I think we're going to see a combination of these three people. I think that our risk. We have Tucker potentially on there. We have Kimo and then we have sorry, I'm going to explain that for you. My money is and quit those three right there.

[01:04:17] I think this is a weird one because without Angela and Kenny are the easy targets to go home. It's kind of an easy one to get with. But now you have to put somebody on there who's like, oh, this might be a little risk

[01:04:29] because we're losing people who we know are definite people. The house wants out. I find I think Angela is going to find a way to stay there. I think it's either going to be Quinn Tucker who might find themselves in trouble because Quinn's power or Tucker, they're seeing.

[01:04:44] I think we might want to see a shot be taken at one of these people. So there's a chance there again with the veto with the BB arena. Both Kenny and Angela could find himself safe. I don't think Leah, but we'll see. All right.

[01:04:58] Who's the I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to as my third person. You're going to keep predicting Quinn. I'm going to and maybe we'll win this way there. And so for David, this would be great because that's his winner prediction. So yes.

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