There was a time when ___ helped flip Big Brother 26 on its head. He seemed to have the potential to make some moves in the game! But then, it never materialized. Indeed, most of the time ___ was on TV, he was being nominated. Sure, everybody loved him, but David Bloomberg and Ovi Kabir wonder: What happened to his game? Was he ever really a force in the game, or was it all song and dance? At RHAP, we know Reality TV and we know Why ___ Lost.[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_02]: This is Why __Lost
[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_02]: This is Why __Lost
[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Why __Lost for Big Brother 26.
[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm David Bloomberg, and I'm here with my co-host, Ovi Kubeer, to discuss Kimo's game.
[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what? We could do that tomorrow.
[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be more fun if we just choreograph a song and dance routine now instead,
[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and we could get to the game stuff in a day or two, or maybe never.
[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: David Bloomberg hates fun. You got to hear it first.
[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't like our Julie Song they put on? You didn't like your favorite house guests?
[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not the first. Believe me, so many people who watch Big Brother only for fun and not strategy,
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: the types of people who are not listening to this podcast probably.
[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Whenever I say something on Twitter about, oh, they shouldn't have done this,
[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: they'll be like, why do you hate fun? It has nothing to do with fun.
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It has to do with strategy. I'm sorry. That's what we do here.
[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I think David just wants a song made for him.
[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a song for Kimo. Oh, okay.
[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_01]: All right. Are you ready? I'm ready.
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo, Kimo, how was his game? We know Kimo. It was pretty...
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, we probably should not write the song fully until we go over what he actually did.
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's smart. I think he's very smart, David.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I mean, what he did besides writing songs.
[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll do that in the same way we do each week by comparing how he played to my rules
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: for winning Big Brother, not singing Big Brother, winning Big Brother, which I originally...
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Big Brother. That's probably the name of his play. Oh, Big Brother!
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: We have a long podcast in front of us.
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I can see that now. We really don't.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: No. It's a funny thing.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I can live.
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a reason that I'm wearing this shirt. Try harder.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I won't say what the rest of the shirt says.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you brought up all the weaponry. I see this.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. Now, we'll analyze Kimo's actions using my rules and what we saw on TV,
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: live feeds, interviews and other information.
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And the most recent version of the rules is, of course, posted at robhiswebsite.com.
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Slash Big Brother rules.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to give a special thanks to my friend Jason for the intro idea.
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But he is not to blame for my singing. Don't, you know...
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, this was the first week where I was so sure that the players were solid
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: in who they were going to evict days ahead of time that I started working
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: significantly on notes for this podcast ahead of time.
[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, I've got this podcast and then in a few hours I have the survivor podcast.
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, okay, I'll do a little work ahead of time.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'd say I was about halfway done by Wednesday.
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And then while survivor was airing, all of a sudden I'm seeing these tweets come in from
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: like HamsterWatch and saying, Cam and Chelsea were flipping.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And I responded and I'm like, this is a prank.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You're doing that just because you know we're watching survivor and we can't be watching the live.
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was not.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was so annoyed.
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I had flashbacks to JAG from last season.
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Although for JAG last season, I had literally written the whole podcast,
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the Lost Why Blank Lost podcast that will never air, you know.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But then luckily for me, they came to their senses.
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So okay, for my purposes, they came to their senses.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Keybow, number one fan right here, David Bloomberg.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't see it.
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, number one fan of him going out.
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing against Keybow.
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, hey, I had my notes mostly done halfway.
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You had your notes, you know.
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So I got a route for myself.
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You wrote it in fake distance.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So we usually have some other things to discuss about the week in general before we get to the
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: rules.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And this week we don't have much other than to talk a little bit about Cam
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: because we saw it on the live feeds.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We saw it in the episode.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He almost got himself nominated and even evicted because of his terrible comp play.
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I am not a trivia person, but that might have been a first if it had happened.
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you've got to have a special ability to play so badly in competitions to make it
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to the final four and then still be seen to let's get him out because he's so bad.
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: They were upset that he has not been pulling his weight within the Mackenzie and Chelsea train.
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it was laughable at first as like a joke, but then we're like, whoa,
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: hold on.
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They might actually be serious about this.
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: They're so upset that he has not pulled his weight in this trio of them.
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And if Cam came out and said this was a strategy basically to hide all his ability,
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: who knows to him?
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, Cam is probably really athletic in a lot of different ways.
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of competitions he probably could win on maybe other shows.
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Big brother, not so much.
[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, last week we talked about how viewers often believe players are throwing
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: when they're doing poorly in comps.
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And it turns out other players can have the same thoughts as we saw with Mackenzie and Chelsea.
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They like that they were not happy with him.
[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is, OK, let's say for a moment that he was throwing,
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: that he has been growing.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It would make zero sense to do it at the final five veto comp.
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if they believe he didn't want any blood on his hands.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't want to make any decisions.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The final five veto comp, he could have just won it and said,
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not using it.
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm respecting the HOH.
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That no blood whatsoever.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes logic goes out the window after being locked in that house for so long.
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's mostly that so much of that frustration.
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And you're probably it's been building up because for them,
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: they're thinking when is Cam going to show up and help us out in this game?
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Outside of being a vote, which they really haven't needed him to be a vote
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: in these types of things.
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think from Mackenzie's perspective, especially since she's also been kind of a
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_00]: calm beast here and I mean power to her breaking some records here and the
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: abilities of she's been winning.
[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: She's probably like, hey, like, are you going to do anything here?
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Chelsea is winning here and there too.
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But like, Cam, I need your help.
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially I think also it hurts even more when you're a self-provested
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: like beast, like you're going to kill it.
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to do this, which Cam has been saying.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But well, yeah, I mean he was a D1 football player, you know?
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And then for him to admit, well, I had to take some breaks, you know?
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And Mackenzie was just going nuts.
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Now she was a little wrong.
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, she said on the episode in D1 athletics, you don't take breaks,
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, there are no breaks.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, have you ever seen a football game?
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah, they rotate players in and out quite a bit actually, you know?
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they do get winded.
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, do they get winded because they're looking at comics and
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: going up a ladder and gliding across?
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they do take breaks.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I will give him that.
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just that none of the others apparently felt the need to take a break.
[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: No, they did not.
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's just like parallel of it as viewers.
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: This is funny to see.
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's always funny to see somebody who, you know,
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: professes their athletic and easily can be seen like he's strong.
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He looks strong, you know?
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're just seeing him continually like fail at these competitions.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: At some point I'm rooting for camp to win something at this point.
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it'd be better if he doesn't win.
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But I was I was willing myself to camp.
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You got this believe in yourself and it didn't matter how much you believe
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: himself.
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He was unfortunately in the same trio of Rabina,
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: T-Core and Kimo in his sense that it couldn't win a competition to save their life.
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: In some cases, literally.
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Game life, literally.
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Game life.
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Besides Cam, did you have anything or anyone else you want to talk about
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: before we go to our next segment?
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think it's just watching all these housekits
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: also interact in the way I've enjoyed to this season.
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the one thing I just want to say off the base
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that it's been fun seeing them strategize and also play.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I know some people have been feeling it's been a little slow down
[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: which every end game slow down.
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But I've appreciated seeing there's still some nuances where
[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: anyone at this point outside of that Rabina and Kimo would have turned on each other
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: in some shape or form if they felt like it benefited their game.
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And I like that.
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that.
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes it's a slower game.
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, some people are like who watch movies at a friend.
[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I was just arguing with he's like, man, first season of Game of Thrones
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: was so boring.
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: There was just so much talk, not enough action.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what are you watching?
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you like?
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the whole point of the show.
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We said actual, you know, the talking of it.
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So I enjoy watching these discussions we had this past week.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's all I want to say.
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's been enjoyable.
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So with that, let's move to our next segment.
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We do have something for Julie Chen Moonves is wrong about blank.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It was only eight words that she had to say to get into this segment this week.
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But they were so wrong that it's ridiculous.
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Dalton Ross asked her if Mackenzie made a fatal error by not taking out her biggest
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: competition to win in Chelsea.
[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And Julie said, no, it was too early to target Chelsea.
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Too early.
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It was final five heading into final four.
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And Mackenzie was the age of age so she couldn't win the next one.
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: How long exactly should she wait?
[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Final two.
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe after the winner is said as Chelsea, she should then try to take her out.
[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Julie Chen Moonves does not believe in voting people out.
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know the reason why I'm on the board usually I'll let David take a segment.
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I won't power along.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know what she said?
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: She said this group of house kids was her favorite house kids.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I did not sit a month in camp, come back with that outfit for her to say that.
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The pain I took when that outfit itched everywhere.
[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I have rashes still.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's talking about the whole group and unfortunately,
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: you're part of a season of house guests that nobody is going to say was their favorite.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You're telling me it's not a good PR engine?
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Say Big Brother 21 is your favorite season of all time?
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I probably not.
[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Or I mean, even if you for some reason like the season,
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_01]: saying that group of house guests is your favorite overall.
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Certainly you and Cliff and a few others,
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, are the cream that rises to the top.
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe we might clip and I might bring a few others to make a song for Julie
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and maybe that would be an answer.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Well otherwise until then I'm on this segment.
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why Julie's wrong.
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Well before we go ahead and get to the rules, I do want to mention
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: as we do each week that a version of the survivor version of the rules comes in a shorter
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and much more colorful form as a poster.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Go to robhazwebsite.com slash yxlossfeed scroll down to the poster and click on it and order it.
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: In addition, you can keep scrolling and get the poster on a t-shirt or the checklist
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: on a t-shirt which is closer, not exact but closer to the Big Brother rules.
[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so again you can go to robhazwebsite.com slash yxlossfeed to get any of those.
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a time when Kimo and T-Corps flipped Big Brother 26 on its head.
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed like they had the potential to control the game
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: but then it never materialized.
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Indeed most of the time we saw Kimo, he was being nominated.
[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, everybody loved him but what happened to his game?
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Was he ever really the force we thought he was or was it all about the song and dance?
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: At RHAP, we know reality TV and we know why Kimo lost.
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Now this week we're going to start where Kimo did the best and that is in the fifth rule
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: which says players need to pretend to be nice and play the social game.
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo wasn't really pretending.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just a really, really nice guy.
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody loved him whether they were strategically on his side or against him
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's why we're talking about this rule first because we could say some positive things
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: about him before we get to the other rules when we're going to have a lot of things to say
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: about him that aren't positive.
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week we talked about how many times Angela was used as a pawn
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: because people knew that up against her the actual target would go.
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And the same was true of Kimo.
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, everyone there just really liked him and didn't want him to go home.
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Even the one time he was supposed to be the target, he apparently did the inconceivable
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and convinced two people to change their votes through his final words
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: before they walked into that voting booth talking about how important the game was
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: to him and who he was represented.
[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Kimo, if you have a video game and you can put your points on stats,
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Kimo was maxed out 100 on social.
[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He was so incredible in this regard.
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I think as trends see, I might be a bit kinder to Kimo than David will be as it goes on.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think we both can agree in this category Kimo didn't have to pretend he was so kind.
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: His story was so great and he was so genuine.
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we see that in Big Brother at points, but very rarely does it actually impact a game
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_00]: on a game level in which players want to change their game when they're even against him
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: based on how that person just acts and talks.
[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Kimo was that person and it was really cool to see that.
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean he talked himself like you mentioned David off being evicted.
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He talked himself into alliances.
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean he talked himself in such a way where within the alliance or other groups,
[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: people understood that hey, we should try to convince Kimo to vote some way else
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: against T-Cor or Rebeen or these things or convince other people to vote against him
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: in that group because we know how much they care about him and how he cares.
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it's really impressive we see that in Kimo.
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: For a person who was on the block basically every other week does not become a social pariah.
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean he still was really by love by the entire house.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's an interesting question.
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He, Kim said a little while ago, Kimo is a very, very, very good social player.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course they all know he had a lot of connections in the jury.
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Others said pretty much the same thing.
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: This makes it even stranger that we saw Kim say on Thursday show that he thought he could beat
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo in the social aspect.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, Kim, that was not going to happen.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I would argue that Kimo had the best social presence in the house by far.
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's almost a testament to Kimo's social pattern game as well because he made
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: other players so like in tune that feeling that he's not a threat.
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll talk about that but socially wise that he's not as much a threat
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: or he's somebody that can make other people comfortable or they can take him to the end.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know if it's as much of a downfall of Kimo.
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he thought of maybe a combination versus Kimo making him feel comfortable enough that
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: he can.
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it was really cool that Kimo, I mean the only thing I think his unfortunate issue
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: he had was the chewing of his food that seemed to drive some of the house.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of crazy.
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's talking to the slurper in here and there but power to Kimo.
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He likes his food.
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I love my food.
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Eat it the way you want to eat it.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And but overall I think it was impressive to see how he navigated,
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: utilizing that social game.
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: My only frustrations I guess with it was so strong that we saw the same issue that
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: K-Core had that once they got in a trio of the group they really stayed
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: insulated within there.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So I wish he let his social game allow him to make some one-on-one connections.
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Game wise, I think he really could have with other players.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and that's a good transition.
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know talking about game wise back to rule one which you know I always
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: note is the most important and that's for a reason.
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It says to scheme and plot because just being in the game while people like you
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: almost never enough.
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to make actual moves to push yourself further.
[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to defend yourself.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to play.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to try harder.
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week I started this rule by saying Leah had no idea that this was part of
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: the game for at least the first half of the season.
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Kimo did know it was part of the game or at least supposed to be part of the game
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: but he just didn't do it.
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He was happy being social and if that meant people were going to nominate him over and
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: over and over again, who is he to push back and advocate for himself?
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Earlier in the season we frequently referred to T-Core and Kimo as a unit
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and gave them both props when they would make a move.
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Looking back I wonder if we gave him too much credit.
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: All that time and if it was really T-Core doing all of it because on his own and even often with
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: T-Core he really did not play Big Brother.
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, he was in some alliances and obviously he had the trio but what did he actually do to play?
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I mean I think here's the one we have different there's different perspectives of
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: playing the game right correct is how you want to strategize in here and then maybe
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: outlasting people and players.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that was a bit of more of Kimo's strategy here that he would continuously outlast people and
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: again you run him up to that point eventually where you're like well there's only so many
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: people to pick off from and I think he played that strategy as well as he could where he was
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: able to even while being a target maneuver himself in positions where he wasn't going home.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Again probably at the mercy of other players I do think there was some form of strategy.
[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was impressive that how he was able to eventually bring Angela to his side
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: where she didn't really want to target him anymore after she targeted him continuously two
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: times around. Again there's some left that's involved with it with the house.
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah okay we should go from other people but I think Kimo's strategy seemed to emerge was
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: make it as far as I can to this point and then I think the end game was a little lost
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: to him in that sense. I really wish I saw some more let's take the outlast version
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: when we have this power two of him and Rabina now even T-Core like that power three
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: lasted a lot longer than it probably should have. We're not being able to win any competitions
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: so with them getting that far again when T-Core left it seemed like like you mentioned the
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: driver's seat was a little way he didn't have an end game and that was his primary issue I find.
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have as much of an issue with the game Kimo played to that point because
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: it was more of like I don't like liking it Tech Cockroach because I don't feel like that's like
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: no no but he was able to survive outlast and it was a lot of it because of his own merit and
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: behind those conversations goes back to the social game the end game is what they did.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but just surviving you know we talked about this before just surviving
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: there are times it can work like you said if you have an end game idea but he
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: he just had plenty of opportunities to play strategically and he kept putting them off
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: for ignoring them completely. Quite frankly the examples are too numerous to even mention but
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: let's discuss a few of the most egregious we've talked about this before but T-Core and Kimo would
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: spend hours talking to each other about what they should tell Quinn and then after all that they
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: would either not get around to it or they did talk to him but they didn't actually tell
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_01]: him what they were supposed to such as with all the Lea information that would have been
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: potentially helpful for him to know it might have actually brought him more to their side
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and then as we move forward in the game a bit you know I had in my notes Kimo basically
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: hasn't campaigned since he was nominated spending almost all his time with T-Core and Rubina.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Now here's the thing if I asked you or any listener what day did I type that note
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: nobody would be able to answer it is evergreen. Now as it happens I wrote it in early September
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: but it literally could have been any time up to and including yesterday if I took out T-Core's name
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean shortly after I originally wrote that note I also wrote about how Cam suggested
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: to Kimo that he start talking more game with people.
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam suggested somebody start talking more game and even then Kimo didn't.
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah yeah no I mean it's that was the unfortunate thing is that I think Kimo and that's why he
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: was able to do so far he was a really good player in a group where it's like we need
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: to vote you need somebody to kind of corral things bounce ideas off the end game and also
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I wish he had a particular agency by himself playing some specific connections outside of
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_00]: T-Core Rubina group something that was unique to himself whether it was a relationship with Quinn
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think we kind of saw it slightly at the end with Angela but that was forged mostly by
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: his social game happenstance I think Angela eventually feeling like a strange bond with him
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: because there are the two that survived the fire you know.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right and she felt bad also that yeah two weeks in a row she quote unquote wanted to vote to keep him
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: but was more or less tricked into not and I think that made her like want to prove oh no Kimo
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I really do love you you know. Exactly and I wish almost that they could have had this
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: special little working relationship a little bit more than what was shown or that he used
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: because like you said I think the the San Jacinto there's a lot of missed opportunities right here
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and I mean for like three specific but for Kimo in general because I think he had the
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: ability to make those inroads if he wanted to. I know it's interesting to see somebody so social
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: like him not want to make those game relationships typically when we see social players like
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: that's kind of their bread and butter you know we kind of see that in T-Core who had a good
[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: social game in a lot of ways and she wanted to utilize that for her benefit but Kimo who's so
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: hands off like the numerous reasons that you listed and plus so many more are just kind of wondering
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: why did it happen. Yeah yeah and then you know you you mentioned the numerous reasons well
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: fast forward to this week final five Kimo on the block against his closest ally Rubina
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Mackenzie wins the veto so of course Kimo made his way to talk to her so he could make his
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: own case for keeping him around and maybe even using the veto to put up Cam or Chelsea on the
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: block right right no of course not time passed Kimo was busy doing Kimo things which definitely
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: did not include strategizing uh Mackenzie had told Chelsea and Cam that she wasn't going to do
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: specific one-on-one meetings but people could come to her so of course he did even when
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: she kind of hinted by making it clear she was available nothing in fact Kimo even commented
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_01]: to Rubina wondering huh does Mackenzie want to talk because she keeps hanging around.
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah great game awareness there Kimo now as it happens uh as we were recording
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: his interview with Mike Bloom came out and the very first thing that he said
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: uh about what was about this week and he said that not approaching Mackenzie to use the veto on
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: me this week is definitely a regret a regret that I do have I don't think I handled that situation
[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: very well and he's right I'm glad he sees it now apparently he he talked to Mackenzie late
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: you know just before the eviction or something like that that he got this information
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: too little too late you know I mean you've been in this game what is it now 80 days or something
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and you still didn't know to do that on your own I don't even I don't even understand it and
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: you know Chelsea and Mackenzie talked about it too they said it was ridiculous that Kimo
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: wouldn't talk to the veto holder the night before the veto meeting when he was on the block
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and you know maybe Kimo assumed that there would be no point but this was actually where they were
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: pissed at Cam and Mackenzie considered using the veto and nominating him so in other words
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: it was the perfect timing for Kimo to go in there and push his case but no
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: no I mean think whether it was the feeling of Rubina being on the block and he didn't
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: want to campaign against her try like he resigned himself to it I'm not sure because like you said
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: this week was truly in favor for him to do it I felt like he kind of just was ready to go home
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: if it was against Rubina he was ready to fall so it just because Rubina I really appreciate her
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: saying that I wouldn't fault her either way if she said I'm going to campaign against him
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: but she was like I'm not going to compare against him but I'm going to advocate for myself
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think that was the issue we didn't see Kimo for and I think you know we say this
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: about a lot of other players but Kimo's the type of player I do think that if he ever
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: worked to come back or play his game he could do really phenomenally well because his level of
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: social would stay there and he just needs to implement the game stretch like he needs to want
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: he wants needs to have an effort you disagree yeah I know what you're saying I'd like to believe it's
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: true but he was a fan of this show before coming in here he was not a recruit he was not a
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Mackenzie you know he he knew what he was getting into and he still didn't do it I don't know that it
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_01]: would change I think that it's just I don't think it's in his personality I think it's in his personality
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: to as Julie says love one another I don't think it's in his personality to strategize with one
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: another maybe that should be her nicknick's tagline she said well yeah she's got guys
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_01]: um you know I do want to mention that in addition to him not campaigning for the veto
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: it didn't even stop there we discussed how at the last minute it looked like there was a possibility
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_01]: to flip uh to keep Kimo but from what we saw on live feeds before they went off for the
[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: for the show he once again didn't bother advocating for himself another instance of
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: him around Rubina talked to Chelsea now I'm not entirely sure did Chelsea initiate that but either way
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: if Kimo had been paying attention he'd have been like huh why is Chelsea talking to Rubina there's
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: only five of them in the house he should have been able to know where people were um and that's
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: what you have to do you have to know what's going on have game awareness and then swoop in
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: you need to I think that was like that's the most frustrating portion of it because I do feel like
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: he got himself in such good positions of it and just need to finish the deal um but the finish
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: deal you need to want to finish the deal you need to have that yeah and I'm not trying to say that
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Kimo didn't want to win he didn't well he didn't have that uh drive for about what it seemed
[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: like from the stuff when he was going into Rubina because I think I saw a little bit more from
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Kimo on weeks when it wasn't him against his ally you know yes unfortunately the last couple weeks
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: is between him Tico so I just feel like this last week it was more so that if it happens if I can
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: stay they really want me to say great but I don't want to be a catalyst to do that and get my friend
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: out and I think that's kind of the catch 22 you have when you become really close with somebody
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: in the house typically you find people understandable and the Stanley ready to like
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: advocate each other at that point but for Kimo I think since he built his game like
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: that his personality seems around there it's you know it's tough but you know here we judge
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: how their game is played not how good of a person they are while Kimo is a great person this strategy
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: right here especially this last week let's just not out the park yeah I think you know what you
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: said is right did he want to win the game yes was he willing to do what it took to win the game
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: no um least that from this standpoint yeah so we could move into the second rule which
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: is not to scheme a plot too much and to keep your scheming secret considering that we just discussed
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo not scheming enough it might seem like we wouldn't have much to say about him here but in fact
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_01]: we do because to quote myself from the why T-Core lost podcast there's a pesky little part that
[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: warns against being in an obvious tight duo often that comes in the form of a showman
[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but it doesn't have to it can be any two people and the funny thing is that in Brooklyn's
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: post eviction interview she called T-Core and Kimo a showman just different from any we've seen
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: they're a pair but being in an obvious duo wasn't enough so they made a trio with Rubina
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and added hers another person to spend all their time with in order to make it even more obvious
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: now this of course didn't change when T-Core was evicted it just brought them back down to
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: an incredibly obvious duo again instead of an incredibly obvious trio very much so I think the
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: only thing that was sad that is I was hoping that he would be able to utilize in this portion is that
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: when T-Core is away let's bring somebody else to be our trio let's bring our third in here
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: let them understand whether it's Mackenzie and somebody else Kamen Sheltzer you're probably
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: not going to touch but having to understand we need to bring somebody in to be our third
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: that way we can work forward with that and they would feel like okay you know some people
[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: don't want to be the bottom of the total hole obviously but when you're like out there you know
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: you might be thinking okay I can work with them a little longer but I will say I think there was
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: one portion where I do feel like it's funny he overplayed to a point where it was underplaying
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: where I think it was a twin situation where him he called a top go back and forth so much about
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: these what to do here that are like we shouldn't do anything I think that happened a bit with
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: his game strategy where we saw wait they didn't actually do anything but there was a lot of
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: thought and thinking and conversation that there we go back and forth the issue was
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: this bounced it was in that triangle and it never left that triangle to be action so in a way
[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Kimo overplayed himself yeah he played himself by not allowing himself to actually take action
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: when he needed to yeah now there were some other ways where he was too close to someone besides
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: just the trio it happened earlier with Tucker as well while he thought it wasn't obvious
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea told others about how those two had been sleeping in the same room but then Kimo would
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: wake Tucker up and they'd leave and go talk elsewhere and of course we know that after Quinn
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: confided in him about his secret power Kimo told Tucker and then aside from forming obvious
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: connections Kimo also did something last week that made a lot of us laugh at how bad it was
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Mackenzie was telling him that she was going to veto him off the block and rather than just
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: accepting it and being grateful he kept being way too honest and giving her reasons she shouldn't
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: do it he needed to just shut up if she hadn't been so overcome by the Chelsea missed brain fog
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: she might have realized that he was right and she shouldn't have done it
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: he was lucky that she didn't actually listen to him
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah I mean many times in his conversations with people he was so honest about things that
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: it started making them feel like wait should I be able to keep Kimo should I keep him or
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: should I put him on a par and he was so honest about these different portions of his conversations
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_00]: with other people or how he was playing the game it worked both ways sometimes I think it was too
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: honest but at the same time I wonder if it's what kept people like I can trust Kimo I know he
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_00]: can be you know he's so genuine I'll keep him around so he was truly a unique player in that
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_00]: way where he would talk himself into situations but also because he talked himself into situation
[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_00]: they felt comfortable enough to keep him around yeah yeah it was catch 22 for sure with him
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: all right well we can go to the third row which talks about the need to be flexible
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: how do you think Kimo did here oh brother or big brother as David would say I
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Kimo was not very flexible which is really weird to say that about a player who was on the block as
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: much as he was but he just didn't change the way he played the game from week one to I feel like
[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: till the end of the week especially maybe there was a little bit more flexibility until he got
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: that solidified three some with him T core and Rabina but I mean you might I don't know if
[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: you're not David but on this one I just feel like I wanted him to be able to there'll be a chance for
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: him to like not turn on Rabina T core but think of the game for himself in a way and how it could
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: benefit him further and we just didn't see that yeah I I really didn't have anything in my notes
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_01]: for this rule when going through the whole season because how can you be flexible when
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_01]: you're not really doing anything in the game you know he had no plans so he couldn't have
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: any backup plans he had one alliance so there weren't any side alliances or sub-aliances
[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_01]: even when he and T core were presented with that possibility by Quinn you know way back when
[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_01]: they blew it up so yeah you're right he just he was not flexible he had his people
[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and those were the people he was going with period yeah and the last thing I'll add to this
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: portion is that it's not exactly what the but it's so fresh and that he was so inflexible
[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_00]: with his group but he didn't use them as a like as a hammer you're a threesome it bar into the game
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_00]: you're stronger a voting blow put some fear into the other players you know they were worried about
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: them and you're like no we don't need to like make a coalition around each other work with them
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and just keep on taking player one by one by one like it felt like baby it was kind of like when
[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_00]: you play uh I don't have a little brother I'm the youngest brother but you know a little
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_00]: when you play a video game you handicap yourself a little bit you know you like give him a few points
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: on this stuff or you set the settings differently so that way for more of a fair game that's what I
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: felt like they were trying to do with their threes and they're like let's take off this person here
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: could work with this okay now let's take out the other side okay somebody else who would want to
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: work with them it was so frustrating because he felt like they wanted to keep it level and not
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: use his advantage for themselves of being in that group so I really wish he utilized his
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: inflexibility to get himself farther if he was not going to be flexible I think he did not do that
[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: all right well the fourth rule says players should not let their emotions control them but
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it seems Kima was pretty much all emotion well let's say 99 percent it was a very small amount
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: of him that understood it was a game he just didn't listen to that one percent
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: he and Rabina even acknowledged as much when Tucker was voted out because they noted that
[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_01]: the others quote were thinking with their brains we were thinking with our hearts
[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: now did that recognition change anything no don't be silly yeah no it
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: is interesting to see that like his emotions and everything the way he played the game
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: it did hamper him in the way where we see you know all these portions of it where it's like
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: he's not changing leaving from his group he might not be
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_00]: stradging using against his teammates where he's on the block at the same time too I do
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: think his emotions in his conversations especially his eviction speech I mean first time I've seen him
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: in a very long time convince people to keep him in the game so he was a really interesting player
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and I the reason I say this is that because his faults were a really good strength for him too
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that he was able to use those emotions to convince other people it's just that
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: he needed to harness his own faults a little bit because they were really manageable and that's
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_00]: why I also still think again I feel probably strong more stronger but like Kimo would be a
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: really good player coming if he was able to just look at what he did this season continue doing
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: the same things but also hey let's like take a step forward with strategizing and stick it's take
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: a step back from like feeling these feelings about not cutting my friends I mean don't get me wrong
[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: if there's an all-stars I would love to see him come back and play the game
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not convinced he can do it so now I you know earlier a minute ago I mentioned the
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker vote now I do want to mention you know of course we said you know before Kimo had
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_01]: T-Core he had Tucker and Kimo said at one point that he had a crush on Tucker and it was clouding
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_01]: his judgment from what we watched I agree I really do feel like in the early game that affected some
[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: of his decisions and then he also seemed to lose a bit of oomph for a while when Tucker was evicted
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you know it mostly came back I won't say he ever you know suddenly was playing the game
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: as we've been saying but you know emotions did affect him throughout the game all right well
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: we could go to the sixth rule which warns against being too much of a threat back in the fifth rule
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: which we had started with we talked about how much everybody loved Kimo and also how he may have
[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: done the near impossible and changed two votes with his final speech earlier in the season
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: that is definitely not someone you want to take to the end with you
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: nope we already know he almost certainly would have had T-Core and Rubina's votes
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and then Angela made it clear how close she was to him as she was walking out the door so if you're
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: another player you're doing some math here in a hypothetical situation where you get to the
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: end against him he only needs one more vote to win there is no way any other player should
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: even consider taking the risk of going to final two with them they shouldn't and it was kind
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_00]: of surprised me in a way too that he became a sleeper pick for a threat level like a player
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: as the game started going it felt like it was exponential and I feel like the players really
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: saw it happen because you know when they're at three something they made two jury you have T-Core
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Rubina that's two easy votes for Hanna State you're both out or vice versa for any of them
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and and I felt like they kind of woke up a little bit and she kind of who knows if it would
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_00]: change the result but inadvertently my team aware Angela was so prominent in her love for chemo and
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: talking about I will vote for him they I was gonna bring him blah blah we see these players really
[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_00]: feel of some sort of way for chemo where if you told me before the halfway point if Chelsea was
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_00]: masterminding all this Mackenzie had this list of POVs blah blah and all these you know HOHs
[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_00]: on her comp and the person that was gonna ride with them and could actually become with chemo at
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_00]: the end with none of a lot of the athletes I would have been really surprised I don't think most people
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: would have met for that to happen but as we saw he was really coming in his way and I gave chemo
[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: money to the final two it would have been a very interesting game you could have talked about
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: because he would have broken a lot of our rules but at the same time he would have gone
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: into the end and made that he sort of survived his way to the end while still making all
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: of social connection so truly no blood on his hands yeah I mean in order for him to have made it to
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: final two he almost certainly would have had to start following some of the rules or the other
[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_01]: players would have had to break them even worse you know um but you know even aside from looking
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: ahead to the end I noted in the yt core lost podcast how dangerous they had been as a trio
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and how they did a terrible job of managing their threat level even then you mentioned earlier it was
[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_01]: surprising how far they made it into the game as a as a trio one of the examples I mentioned was
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: chemo saying that week that they weren't a threat because they didn't win comps and like I
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: said he's a fan he should know better while comps can come into play in a decision they are not
[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: the major factor usually in other people deciding whether you're a threat the major factor especially
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: at this point in the game unless you're julie is whether you you you'd beat them which he would
[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's why it was frustrating to hear that chelsea seemed to take cam side temporarily on
[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_01]: wednesday when he wanted to flip and keep chemo anyone voluntarily letting this man get closer to
[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: the end would have been crazy and his story is so good we already know he can tell his story
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_00]: but the story he can now weave that he has been on the block week in week out he has seen his allies
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_00]: go in and out he has survived this you know he has a way to keep like he can talk about how he
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: should win the game without needing any of those wins or needing all that stuff you know which
[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: was impressive as it kept continuing to build up and like we always say your threat level
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_00]: is relative to people next to you so at that point right there when you're counting down
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_00]: jury votes you're seeing oh wait we have a smaller jury here oh wait two of those people do the math
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_00]: right there for two out of seven people are instant votes from actually hold on maybe it's three
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: out of seven now that's almost half it he needs one like you mentioned only one more vote I mean
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_00]: he comes immensely powerful like a Chelsea could do whatever she wanted at that point but if he
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_00]: gets three votes he just needs to convince literally one person who might be slightly jaded
[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_00]: at Chelsea you know I'm saying Chelsea is a you know or McKenzie or a camp yeah
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: all right well the seventh rule says to trust almost nobody and obviously Kimo trusted T-core
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and Rubina completely I just don't know that it particularly hurt him the trust part you already
[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: talked about you know how not being willing to go against Rubina hurt him but the trust part
[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_01]: it was interesting though that Rubina again as you mentioned at least campaigned for herself a
[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_01]: little which was certainly more than Kimo did so if he trusted her to do nothing like he was doing
[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: he was wrong I was going to say that I don't really think she did anything to sway people
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: but she actually might have because some of the things she said came up in conversations
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: as the possible flip against her was being considered meanwhile nothing that Kimo said
[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: could be considered because he didn't say anything yeah I think in this one it's interesting because
[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_00]: out of a whole threesome of them might we've seen it if T-core was near the end with them
[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_00]: it seemed almost the most equitable threesome of a group we've seen there where they all
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: trust each other and they want to backstab one another really you know I think the mutual
[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_00]: love for each other they had and I mean T-core was closer to Kimo and Rubina seemed to actually be
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: slightly closer to Kimo as well so I don't know trusting him too much really hurt their game because
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: they actually looked out for him as well I do think though I almost wish he trusted a few
[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_00]: other people like we'd mentioned you know a little bit more that he could have worked with I
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: think maybe because he was so stuck and strong with these two other folks it just was he was
[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_00]: unable to allow himself to kind of give up that trust to other people or maybe his worry was
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: if he starts trusting other people he loses his trust T-core and Rubina so again I don't think this
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: portion like you mentioned really faulted his game too much at the same time an area of
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_00]: improvement that might have been able to change that dynamic for him to be able to do what he
[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_01]: needed to do yeah yeah all right well we could move to appendix a which is about the jury
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: phase of the game and deals both with how Kimo was doing and preparing to possibly be at the end
[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_01]: himself as well as whether the other remaining players did what they needed to do to get him on
[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_01]: their side at the end and how he'll impact the jury we already discussed how there was no way
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_01]: anyone should have wanted to face him in in the end but that wasn't because he had some big
[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_01]: strategy to get the jurors on his side it was like everything else we've been discussing based
[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_01]: entirely on his social game but it still wouldn't work for him if he could have gotten there
[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: very much so I mean if it's not broke don't fix it right and he had a great strategy to get these
[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: votes it was a social game so why try to convince them otherwise if you guys three votes in the bag
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: now why change it up try to get one more person you just need to convince one more person who
[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_00]: is a little jaded and here's a great thing is the people who are left in the jury and also
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_00]: here they don't have bad feeling stores Kimo if anything they still feel pretty good about Kimo
[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the other players might be a little more jaded by against other players like how can you hate on
[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Kimo like he didn't get me home he didn't want a competition to get me home actually he's just
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of survived and thrived and made social connections so very tough on that point
[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_00]: on the back end of it I'm curious to see how he will now impact the jury yes being a part
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_00]: of it between him Angela and Rubina I'm not 100% sure if uh not sorry no rubina not a t-core if
[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_00]: angel will be in their group now within there they could be still a trio who votes together now
[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm very interested to see who he will end up you know if he will try to influence the jury
[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_00]: or who he wants to give the vote to outside of rubina yeah I mean obviously if rubina makes it
[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_01]: to the end somehow she would have his vote otherwise I think Chelsea has his vote because
[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_01]: not necessarily as much because of Kimo himself but because he'll get there and he'll talk to
[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: the other jurors and we heard from them in their segment they clearly recognize how she has
[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: controlled the game and we also know that t-core favors Chelsea Kimo has been t-cores minion I just
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: see little chance that that will change yeah I agree so with that it is about time to wrap
[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_00]: things up what are your final thoughts about Kimo oh Kimo I appreciate him watching him throughout
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_00]: this entire season he was a delight in so many ways um and more so because you know I didn't have
[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_00]: any expectations I didn't know how Kimo would play this game and the way he played the game
[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_00]: was a very social game and we saw him unlike some of the other players in this house he was
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_00]: the opposite of it and typically when a player is completely social and does not get strategized at
[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_00]: all I don't tend to love watching them there but Kimo is different because seeing him survive
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_00]: in and out him surviving I started to get more impressed with him as the weeks gone by do I think
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_00]: he is the best strategist in the world you know do I feel like there was a lot of misopportunities
[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_00]: yes but at the same time I appreciated his ability to navigate the game in a way he did
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_00]: without actually truly getting any blood on his hands but still being able to make an
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_00]: impact on the players if he got to the final two I would have found this one of the most
[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_00]: impressive winners in a lot of ways where he just won a social game a little he was able
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to convince people like him and let us not forget that he was able to convince people
[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_00]: on the day of his eviction through his speech on live time to keep him there that's a talent
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_00]: and talent alone that very few house just are able to do overall though it demands a nothing
[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_00]: unless you have an end game to finish the game down there if you don't have enough
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_00]: symbols to put your project together it's just going to fall apart and that's what we
[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_00]: saw for Kimo I don't know if it was whether the desire to win the game was less or it was
[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_00]: just a desire like David said to go against his best teammate Rabina either or he lost the
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: game I appreciate him if he comes back he changes the strategy I think he has a great chance for it
[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_00]: otherwise though on big brother 26 his time has come to it yeah Kimo came into big brother
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: as a big fan of watching the game and through his time in the house it seemed to be
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: that he continued to be a big fan of watching the game there's really no way to avoid saying this
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: bluntly through much of his time in big brother Kimo sat around and let the game happen around
[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_01]: him he was friends with everyone which is great people really did love him if he had
[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_01]: somehow made it to the end there is a very good likelihood he would have won because of it
[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: but there's that big problem of needing to get to the final two to make that happen
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and he had no plan for that he made himself into a threat without any thought of how to counter
[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: or deflect it or use the way people felt about him to his own advantage and the frustrating thing
[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: is we know he had that ability because he did it maybe accidentally but he did it when he got
[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: two people to change their votes and keep him in the game earlier for a while Kimo often talked
[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_01]: game with T-core and Rubina and talk and talk and talk but talking isn't doing even when his own
[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: game life was on the line he didn't bother to meet with the person who held the power given
[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: multiple opportunities at the start of the podcast I said we needed to go over what Kimo did
[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_01]: in the game before writing his final song well now it's time Kimo Kimo he was not mean no Kimo
[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo but he didn't really ski mo Kimo Kimo his game was not primo and that is why Kimo lost
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you're muted I can't everybody can't hear your applause I was applauding for David I was not trying
[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_00]: to be quiet I'm muted myself so I can let his voice ring it you know that alone Kimo deserves 500k
[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: at least because he made David Bloomberg sing on here anyone who thinks this stuff is rehearsed by
[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_00]: us at all should be this thought should be gone now because they I did not know David had his full
[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_00]: song like that our swan our swan song for Kimo truly well I need that for every house
[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: gets no this last final four I want to hear you know poor people with you know playing it in their
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: headphones are probably like ah my ears are bleeding I need that on an edit right now I just need
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that song playing back and forth ah but well said David as always well said and well sung
[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_01]: well thank you thank you um well we will have our spoiler free predictions in a moment
[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: after a few other pieces of information in addition if you want our full spoilery thoughts
[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_00]: you could find us all over social media that is correct don't forget many of us both of us
[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_00]: excuse me are very active on a number of different social media platforms where we
[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_00]: discuss big brother and other topics on twitter I am at the obi computer on instagram I'm
[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: at obi computer on pick top I am at basmati boy but David is truly all over the place but you can
[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_00]: track him down in a few ways and the one way is his link tree at link tree slash david bloomberg
[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_00]: sorry link tree slash david bloomberg and you can find him on twitter and blue sky at
[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_00]: at david bloomberg on threads at david bloomberg tv and as it's linked to instagram he's at
[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_00]: david bloomberg tv on all video platforms like instagram tick tock and youtube yeah I've been
[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_01]: posting on the video sites I mean you know for the past couple weeks like four per day
[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: sometimes five yesterday was five and that's all like like you said youtube tick tock instagram
[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_01]: you know mostly been about big brother and survivor with the occasional one from the
[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_01]: circle which just ended that's dropped in from the new show that cbs has been promoting the
[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: summit uh from from the anonymous from whatever shows you know are coming out I'm I'm uh you know
[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_01]: putting putting some videos out about them but again mostly big brother and survivor so
[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_01]: as I mentioned of course every week our predictions are spoiler free so we you know came up with
[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_01]: these before we even knew the outcome of the hoh with mckenzie unable to compete and cam being useless
[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_01]: in challenges like we said um I'm I mean I don't think it's a difficult prediction to say Chelsea
[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_01]: will win hoh again I've you know and then I've seen no indication that she will deviate from
[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: the plan that she's voiced several times which is to try to get to the end with cam and mckenzie
[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_01]: so she will try to target rubina but we all know that at final four the veto winner is the one who
[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: gets to really make that decision unless chelsea herself wins veto in which case she decides who
[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_01]: gets to decide under my scenario again given the challenge situation I think either chelsea
[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_01]: or mckenzie will win veto and they will indeed follow through with the plan to evict rubina
[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_00]: hmm you know what a broken clock has to be a bright twice a day and hopefully my prediction
[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_00]: has been wrong every single time but I'm hoping to write this time I want rubina to win this one
[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_00]: show it out come in there and I think at this point the veto holder chooses but I think
[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_00]: chelsea and cam go up so I think rubina I have a feeling for her this time okay so wait so who's
[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_00]: going then oh who's going I think chelsea goes home I think they they wake up and realize that
[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_00]: chelsea needs to go if I think if anybody she should be the one to go home I mean I truly believe
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_00]: if you're not chelsea you need to get chelsea out because I don't think any of them are beating her
[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_01]: right yeah all right well that brings us to a programming note that we have here which is our
[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_01]: podcasting plans for the final four are not set in stone we did this last season too
[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_01]: we have the fourth place eviction coming up on thursday and then we have the finale on sunday
[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_01]: it would be a quick turnaround to do two separate podcasts there and it would not just for doing
[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_01]: for people at home listening it would be you know a quick turnaround we might do it if something
[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_01]: else happens and like for example ovae is right and chelsea is evicted in fourth place otherwise
[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_01]: we will likely do the same thing that we did last year talk about all of the final four in a
[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_01]: single podcast a couple of days after the finale so watch for that yep yep and as we wrap up i want
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[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_00]: t r a i d a r and now i want to finish up and say thank you just gonna sit here just get started
[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and the whole rjp and reality tv wrap-ups behind the scenes for all the work they do editing
[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and posting everything else we really appreciate everything you do to get our voices from
[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_00]: our microphones to our to your ears and thank you david for your incredible singing
[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and the rendition was wonderful i'm so thankful to hear that and then lastly i gotta thank all of
[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_00]: you for watching and listening and tuning in week in and week out we're coming to the end
[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_00]: of our big brother season so please just let us know what you think let us know on social media
[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_00]: or in the comments below what you think of this season do you think it was the right decision to
[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_00]: send our beautiful incredible kimo out and who do you think is gonna win how do you think
[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_00]: this is gonna end up i want to hear your thoughts we want to hear your thoughts and just let us
[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_01]: know all right and thank you of course ovi it just occurred to me if we're not going to be here again
[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_01]: until the finale we probably should have made a prediction uh official of who who is going to win
[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_01]: i will take the obvious prediction and say chelsea you are predicting chelsea goes so who do you
[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_01]: think is going to win there for i think mckinsey's gonna win and i think she's gonna comp it out
[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and i just don't see a world where if chelsea goes home now i mean we could be surprised maybe
[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: scam you know but the dogs at the crib would be very happy about that i imagine but i'm putting
[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_01]: mckinsey as my vote okay well thank you uh for joining me here once again thank you to all of
[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_01]: the listeners and viewers uh again watch for my survivor why blank lost on saturday
[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and we will either be back in a week or a few days after the finale as we mentioned until then
[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: bye everyone