BB26 Wednesday Recap: Izzy Gleicher Talks BB26, Ep 32

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Hello everyone and welcome to RHAP. I'm your host Taran Armstrong and we are here tonight

[00:00:15] [SPEAKER_06]: to talk about this 90 minute episode of Big Brother 26 where we saw some just excellent

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_06]: decisions being made all around. And man, it was honestly, it was such a long episode.

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_06]: After a long episode of Survivor, I thought the only people that are going to be able

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_06]: to join me for this one are people I know from experience are capable of sitting down

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_06]: for a long period of time. So we've brought a little bit of a reunion back here. If you

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_06]: were not here at the start of the season, the preseason, we ran a little pressure cooker

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_06]: competition and spoilers, I've got the top three with me right here beginning with Scali.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_03]: How you doing Scali?

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hello. Hello. I'm so glad to be here holding a microphone instead of a tennis ball on

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_03]: my head. Yeah, somehow this felt longer than the pressure cooker. So very glad to be here.

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, we also have our winner, Mary. How you doing Mary?

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true. You know, I did win and I feel like Leah was wearing one last week.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like I should put my crown on for having won the pressure cookers.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Didn't work out very well for Leah.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know what? Worst case scenario, I get voted off this panel and I get to go

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: to sleep. So that's kind of where we're at.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we also, of course, have Izzy with us tonight. How you doing Izzy?

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing good. Yeah, I'm not at home, but I did almost pack my tennis balls for the

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_04]: bit and you know, I can never follow through.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah. Yeah. Here we are.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Here we are. 90 minutes of Big Brother.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_06]: We had some wild robots, we had some wild AI and we had some wild H.O.H.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_06]: decisions. So plenty to talk about here tonight.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_06]: But Izzy, tell me what have you thought of the season so far?

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I was nervous before the season started, the first season since my season.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was having all the feels, you know.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But actually, like it's like so crazy because this is just a different game, like

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_04]: different thing, you know, and I'm enjoying it, I guess.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But I, you know, like great representation of Big Brother fans.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, yeah, I get it.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, everyone is like super unique.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Lots of different things being brought to the table, you know, like personality wise

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_04]: and whatever. But like, I'm here, I'm here for the sport, you know what I mean?

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like and I just think like there's really just not an understanding of how to have a

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_04]: strategic plan or thought.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Fleeting image of what to do like at, you know, like for the masses on this season,

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_04]: like I think Chelsea is the most competent strategist like since the beginning, you

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: know. But other than that, it's like a little I think Angela maybe is also like been

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking genius the entire time and like planned every step of it.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a Angela conspiracy theorist.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I think she's a brilliant genius.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's a little bit like, you know, if you if you're hoping to watch the Olympics

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_06]: and instead you're watching like children's soccer, you know, you might be a little bit

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_06]: underwhelmed.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But at the same time, very chaotic.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Very chaotic.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Something that I like to talk about when it comes to ultra running is that it's one of

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: the few sports where you as like basically a nobody who could be the worst at the sport

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: can participate against people who are the best in the same competition.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Big Brother is like the other one where it's a lot like that.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just wildly different levels of skill participating against each other

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes. And I would say the bar for this season collectively feels like it's a lot

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: lower just because we don't know what someone like Chelsea would do if she was

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_00]: stacking up against some other people.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that Chelsea is by far one of the best strategically and yet make some

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: questionable social decisions still is impressive.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_04]: There's juxtaposition there for sure.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, yeah.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Said Izzy before.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, between last season and this season, we have an average amount of gaming going

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: on, but I'm enjoying both of the extremes very much.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm. Yes.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, a long episode, but we kicked it off following the nomination, the nominations

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_06]: of the previous episode with Angela and Kimo on the block.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_06]: MJ telling us Angela's my target.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_06]: There's no way anyone but Angela is leaving this week.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_06]: She's got to go.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I know Chelsea wanted me to do Leah, but I'm not doing that.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah is good for my game.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Obviously.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that she just really stuck to those guns the whole time.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm glad that she's really been trying to play her own game and make her own decisions.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, she's not being carried anywhere in this game.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_03]: No, of course not.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Never mind the fact that Angela is also good for her game.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And throughout this episode, there are multiple moments where people like Leah, but

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: and Angela and some other people, they talk about worrying about some things that could happen

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: as if Mackenzie isn't the one with the power.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, but like what if what if Chelsea and Cam or Ruby?

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what if someone else wants this to happen?

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like theoretically, you should still be OK as long as Mackenzie doesn't crack.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But they don't.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, yeah, maybe they just knew.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they just knew that she she is definitely not.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: She might have the power.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I saw on Twitter like several days ago a tweet about who won the veto and then who actually won the veto.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was like a mistake that had been released.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, shoot.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: We we saw the wrong person with the necklace.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But no, it's just the way the game is played.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's just like I just think it's like a little bit crazy that MJ doesn't understand this like kind of powerful position

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: she could have been in if she had done the right things with this age.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Like she just like she kind of finally found herself in a position that like Chelsea had been in

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_04]: that then Chelsea manipulated to get to like the PowerPoint that she is now.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And like MJ is in the middle of these two sots.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just like so ridiculous.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm sad.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And Taryn, like you talk a lot about the difficulty in the decision making when it comes to like

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: how long do you keep an ally and when do you get rid of them or do you let them be taken out and stuff like that?

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And so specifically here with McKenzie and Chelsea, like theoretically, it's like, oh, but these people might come for her best ally.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, she's going to want to make sure they don't.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But we're near the end of the game and Chelsea is going to beat you.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So at that point, you should be rejoicing that someone else might be taking them out.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have like a thought about how McKenzie could have handled this and not made Chelsea upset with like not nominating Leah?

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, here's the thing.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Who cares if she's upset?

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_06]: That's that's this this whole notion of like, oh, man, do I need to make them happy by making this decision?

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what do you mean make them happy?

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what exactly do you think happens if you make them happy?

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Because in any in any season, making somebody happy means nothing.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_06]: It's we've seen this time and time again.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And Big Brother McKenzie is not a fan of Big Brother.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, that's fine. She hasn't seen previous seasons.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_06]: She doesn't have that knowledge. OK.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_06]: On her own season, people have not cared about favors done for them.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. Her own season, this season, plenty of times, plenty of times people have not cared.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_06]: If people have made them happy, they've gone and they've turned on them.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But but then you can say, OK, OK, OK.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_06]: But that's just that's that's other people.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, MJ, she she's talking about Cam.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_06]: She's talking about Chelsea.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Those are specific people.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not like no, it is like it is like because specifically Cam and Chelsea, specifically Chelsea has turned on.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Remember Quinn?

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Remember how Quinn protected Chelsea on his H.O.H.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_06]: and went after Joseph, which is what Chelsea wanted.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Remember how much how happy that made Chelsea that week?

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And then and then I don't know if you recall, but the following week she took him out of the game.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And then also last week, you know how Leah didn't touch your trio,

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_06]: didn't go after Chelsea and went after the other trio instead to make you and her happy.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Um. Yeah, what's happening this week again?

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And what do you think is going to happen next week after you make Chelsea happy by going after Leah?

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm just it's it's all right there in front of you.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The the only thing you need to make someone happy enough

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: is happy enough to not immediately want you out.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That's all you have to care about.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And like it's like taking someone on reward in Survivor.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not ever going to actually gain any favor by doing that.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And if in like Saren said, if you sit down and think, what does it mean if she's happy?

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: What that means is that she's in a better game position.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Not you. She is.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: She's in a better game position because you've done something to help her game.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: If that coincides with your game, then that can be OK.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But if it's directly detrimental to your own game at that point,

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: this is when we talk about people like,

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, being in someone's pocket and playing for them, because

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: MJ didn't like get swindled into thinking that

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: like putting Angela up, putting me up would be like the best thing for her game.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: She got kind of tricked into thinking like, oh, maybe they might be coming after you

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: or whatever, but it wasn't like this is the best prime move for you.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: She just got scared of doing anything else.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's I mean, but that's because they haven't been talking strategically at all.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it hasn't been like analyzing and then therefore making a decision

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_04]: that makes sense for you.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It's all been just like fear based and emotional and like friendship

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and like making people happy or not.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's like that doesn't it's just like meaningless ultimately.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like what is MJ's pitch going to be at final two?

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it took MJ 27 weeks to be involved in something and big brother,

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and she is like grasping onto it.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_03]: She does not want to lose Chelsea.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: She finally has someone.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And so look good for the alliance.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Does not matter if it's good for her.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like if

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: because because MJ is getting talked into doing things,

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: but I don't believe that she's really being convinced

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: that it's like just best for her game.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: She's just being convinced that it's a move she should make.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not the same thing exactly, because you're right, Izzy,

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that there's not a whole lot of talk of strategy going.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And even like even Angela, even, you know, Leah, even keep like

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: none of the people who are being talked about for going on the block

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: or have touched the block are they're not having conversations like, no,

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: this reason, this reason, this reason are why it's best for your game.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all well, I didn't mean to say that.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there was a misunderstanding.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's how you feel about this thing.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, hold on.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Can we can we cut the crap for a second and talk about like strategically

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: where at the end of the game, why does it benefit you to send me out?

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And let me explain to you why it benefits you to keep me in strategically.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But nobody cares.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I love that they showed early on in the episode

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_04]: chemo and Rubina up on the balcony and like Rubina being like,

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope I can win so I can pull you off.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And chemo is like, don't do that. You should.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I would never ask you to use the video to take me off.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But this isn't like throw the video to me where you could go up.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_01]: This is your safe.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but I would never ask you to do.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But also it's just like insane.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You're actually this ally. Ask them.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's also like then both of them would be safe.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm ready. I mean, it's actually the best scenario for them.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_04]: If Rubina won and both go up.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_04]: The same thing.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And good.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Asks Leah like, oh, well, would you if you won the video?

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Would you think about it? Of course.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is this a discussion?

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I do think there's a good chance of chemo one, the video.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And MJ told him that she would not like him to use it.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_03]: He wouldn't have used it.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_04]: He would not have used it.

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_03]: He's so apologetic and it's just to a fault.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You want to hear the summit, you know?

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_06]: So so I mean, that's that's where we are, right?

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_06]: MJ saying it's I'm not going to do it.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to put I'm not going to.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't want to put Leah on the block.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I want Angela gone.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But Leah plans to use the veto on Angela.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Rubina plans to use the veto on chemo.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_06]: And that brings us into a veto competition.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think the set here was cool.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_06]: The big, big robot, you know,

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_06]: like all the little characters in the movie.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think the competition itself was good.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a good competition in the sense that it was very fair.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_06]: The puzzle portion was actually difficult.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't just a race.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_06]: It was an actual puzzle.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I like those things.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I did not like watching it.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, after Leah's first segment, I was like, are we going to see?

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking about how much time was left in the episode.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, we're going to spend this much time on everybody.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to see this so many times.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I just want to specifically when we were designing

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_06]: the pressure cooker competition that we had three of you compete in.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_06]: One of the things that we were thinking about as a punishment

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_06]: was playing annoying noises for you

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_06]: that you would have to sit there and listen to.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And I vetoed the idea because I was like, there's no real good,

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_06]: like effective way of doing this without playing it for the audience, too,

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_06]: which means I'm just also annoying the audience.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't want to do that.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I only want to annoy my contestants.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I feel like big brother, you know, do me a solid here.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, let's get on the same wavelength

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_06]: because I don't need to hear these noises over and over again.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I never thought we would have a comp that was based off of those tick

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: tock dogs that communicate pushing buttons.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think what I learned today is that those dogs are smarter than me

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: because this was a lot like the same sounds over and over.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you have people just like and I heard it was grass.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: We know it's not like we know it's not twigs. It's grass.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We've already seen this before.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's annoying to watch them just waste time on screen.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, I don't always think this, but in this case, I was thinking

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I would crush this and I was so disappointed

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: with how everyone else did because I was like

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_00]: the number of people who would get the first three right,

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: like the first three parts of the four part phrase,

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and then they would just start guessing on the last one.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, go back and play it again.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You should have at least be able to narrow it down to like one or two.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you? I'm going to try this.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to try this and correct me if I'm wrong.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: When you buzz and it says you're wrong, you don't know what part you're wrong.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can't it's not a trial and error unless you're 100 percent sure

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: on the other two.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You should never be just like randomly changing things.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: People do this on BB Comics all the time.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you don't know what you're like.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You could be changing the things you have right.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Did no one learn anything from Jared and the Nether Gorgon?

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to see at least you have to know what you're doing.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_04]: This was insane to me. I also thought I would cry.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is like feels like my job or something.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, you're musical, so that would also be like, oh my God,

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I love this so much.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, watching. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't really care about watching the concert.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't like ever.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I think to be fair to this competition,

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that it's always pretty boring to watch individually timed competitions.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that there's absolutely a way that it could be edited to be fun.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_06]: But I personally feel like the way the big brother often edits these

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_06]: just saps the fun out of it because there's there's just there's no stakes whatsoever.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_06]: You don't know how long it's taking them.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So you're just watching them do the same things and say the same things over and over.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_06]: So this this sound meant dog and this sound meant babies.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And so then I went to the to the room and I looked for dogs and babies.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_06]: But then I eventually thought, oh, not dog babies, but non-human.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_06]: But like it's just like who like what are we doing?

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and then we watched that happen like six times in a row.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like, OK, we get it, because especially like it like maybe if there was a timer on

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_06]: the screen that would help a little bit. Right.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_06]: But they don't want to do that because they don't want to show the time.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They should take a take a page of the challenges book,

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: which is you have one person sort of set up the task and maybe show some of it.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you montage everyone together.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You montage them and you montage them in such a way where we might be able to even like see

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: who's clearly doing better, because the thing is, I know you want suspense

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: as long as there's suspense between two people and we don't know who won.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That's enough.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Show us the people who are wildly failing and are so far behind and make it comical.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, we're never going to know Leah's time.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: What was Leah's time?

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_04]: We're never going to know.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to know.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I wonder how close it was.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: They at least do what they used to do.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they would then like at least show the whole board at the end where you

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: see like all the times like after they announced the winner.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Like some.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, I mean, they stopped doing that after the Matt competition.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Which at least Matt was not doing this competition.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So close enough.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was bad.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I think at the point where they decide 26 seasons in, they need to re-explain that house guest

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: choice means the house gets to choose.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that they don't trust the audience.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They need to explain everything over and over.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why we have to watch Leah's entire run, followed by

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_03]: at least half of everyone else's entire run as well.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I just like just imagine a world where it's exactly what Mary said.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like there's six people basically competing at the same time, roughly at the

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_06]: same time.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're like zooming out as somebody gets one right, buzzes in.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_06]: They have one green and two on lit.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_06]: You're zooming out to a view of all six of them and then zooming back into somebody else

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_06]: who's struggling.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And then like, you know, like a way to edit it that it feels like it's real time, that

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_06]: it feels like there's actual stakes like, oh, that person's ahead now.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And and also you're not watching the same thing over and over.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_06]: You're watching the whole competition in pieces from each person playing.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I just feel like that makes so much more sense.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, they have a formula.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_06]: They've stuck with it for so long.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just I just I just wish that it was better.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of wishing me.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I was just listen, I was watching this commenters just like over like the next person would

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_06]: go and the next person would go.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, is it still going?

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And Kimo said, still, still, still.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And I didn't even edit that straight from the episode.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, really, at the end of what you've done wrong, still like still, still, still

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_04]: just like take more than two seconds at the one of them.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Jesus Christ.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, still you still haven't looked at the right answer.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You're still just guessing.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_03]: If you told me Kimo timed out, I'd believe you.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And you can tell me five minutes.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll see was in the top three with 35.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like these people are not doing well.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Shooketh.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a wild amount of time for so many of them.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, listen, this is the same crew that lasted one round in OTAV.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think we should be surprised.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying nothing.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: At least at least it's a fairly even playing field.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: They were all bad except for Chelsea.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not Chelsea, Mackenzie.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we've only been watching this show for, you know, 12 weeks.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea basically won.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_06]: So Chelsea.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_06]: So so MJ wins the veto and

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah does not.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Rubina does not.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_06]: That should be it right?

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_06]: The week's over.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just not going to veto her own nomination.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_06]: She nominated them for a reason.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But wait, another bad decision awaits.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_04]: She's not more of the tank, Taryn.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't underestimate her.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_06]: So we do get actually a fair amount of detail in terms of how this goes down,

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_06]: given that we have all this extra time.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And it really does kind of start with Leah talking to Rubina and being like,

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_06]: oh, I think I made a mistake.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry I took out T-Core.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And at the time, I remember on the update, we were like,

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_06]: this is a little premature.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_06]: They should maybe wait until the veto do this just in case.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Just be a little careful.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And then, of course, Rubina then goes to MJ to reveal this information.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And this, I think, speaks so much to what happened last week as well.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Rubina's like, Leah, why do you think I'm going to work with you?

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_06]: You're the one that came after me last week.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_06]: That is the problem of targeting one side when you're faced with two separate sides,

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_06]: is that the side you targeted doesn't like you because you targeted them.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_06]: And the side you didn't target, you gave all of the power to.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And now the side that you targeted is going to go to that side and not you.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And now you are at the wrong side of both sides.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But listen, it's like we're at the point of the game.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Really, does Rubina think?

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_04]: She didn't even want to take a little bit of time to just think about her position

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and Kimo's position.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, we're at the point where people have to be fluid or something.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, especially in Rubina's position.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's a duo and a trio and another duo.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no limit.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: What do they think?

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Does Rubina think that Chelsea and Cam and MJ are somehow protecting Rubina and Kimo?

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Angela now is self-proclaimed like, I'm never voting Kimo ever again.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, well, that's perfect.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Leah and Angela are together.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Rubina, like that's that's you should at least entertain this, right?

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I agree.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she should entertain it.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_06]: But at the same time, like using this information to get the MJ trio to focus on Leah and Angela

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_06]: instead of her and Kimo ultimately is the right play, right?

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I guess that's true.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I just want Rubina on the block so bad.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I should be Kimo and Ruby like that's what I want.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But that would be going after one side again.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I think the other problem here, though, is in Leah's like from Leah's side.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Leah was making it was was venting about how she was frustrated with the situation

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and how she had some regrets for what she did in the past.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't approach it by saying, look, Rubina,

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sorry that I took out your friend.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I made a horrible strategic mistake, but here are the strategic reasons

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: why it would make sense for us to work together.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And because she didn't do that at all, then Rubina's only strategic decision left is,

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: oh, great, I'm going to rat you out so that I can, like Taryn said,

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: keep the heat off of me and Kimo.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't give her a strategic alternative.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: She gave her an emotional alternative, which maybe would have worked,

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_00]: except for the fact that Rubina was mad about the emotional based stuff.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like you're just at the best you're going to do is get Rubina to be like,

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: all right, I forgive you for that, but I'm not working with you.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So I know I mean, I do like fundamentally agree with that.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just so frustrating because like they've been using emotional language

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: to hide any sort of strategic talk, like the whole game.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And it seems like sort of like, I don't know,

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_04]: willy nilly when they choose to tap into what angle of it.

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's just my wanting those two on the block, I guess.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm so blinded by it.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, when MJ hears about this, she's upset because that's her ally, Chelsea.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And she can't have people going after her allies, even if they're her other allies.

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sounds like maybe you should put the people up who aren't your allies.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_06]: That's see, that's that's just that's a level of thinking that I think we should refrain from

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_06]: discussing this.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: What's frustrating the entire week of episodes, we didn't get any reasoning

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: from anyone of why Mackenzie shouldn't put up Rubina like there's no she best friends with her.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no strategic reason we don't see them hanging out and talking a ton.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, basically, we don't get that.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Basically what we got in the episode, and I think this is relatively fair in terms of

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_06]: what her actual motivation was, is that she wanted to target Angela in order to make sure

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_06]: that Leah had no other options but to be loyal to her, which is the same thing she did to Chelsea

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_06]: last week when she took out T-Core against Chelsea's will.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_06]: She took out T-Core.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't think that it was for the reason that we hoped it was,

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_06]: which was to take a power position in the game.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it was to make sure that Chelsea didn't have T-Core as another option,

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_06]: as an ally, that she only had MJ.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think MJ was hoping to do the same thing to Leah here.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_06]: The problem is that Angela was also an ally of MJ.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And when you change your mind and go after Leah.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think that was her motivation.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's why she was targeting Angela.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_06]: But the key here is what Mary is saying, which is that there is another option.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_06]: You can just target Rubina or Kimo, one of them leave.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And now guess what?

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_06]: You have maybe one person who is outside of your sphere of influence.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_06]: The other two, Chelsea and Cam, are going after Leah and Angela.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah and Angela going after Chelsea and Cam.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_06]: That is exactly where you want to be.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It's OK that they're targeting Chelsea because they're not targeting you.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's OK that you're losing Chelsea as an ally if that happens,

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_06]: which it probably wouldn't anyway, because guess what?

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_06]: You're not Chelsea.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And also, it's you're keeping the other allies like you.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_06]: You get to win no matter what happens.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and Frank, I mean, frankly, MJ should have worked hard

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_04]: to target Kimo and Rubina back to back to save herself

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: an even extra week in making the decision on where to flip like that.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just like it was if she wanted to entertain a potential back door

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_04]: to think about a Leah, Angela thing, she should have done that.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_04]: She shouldn't have like put up Angela right away and then put up Leah.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_04]: This is ridiculous.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_04]: She has no relationship to Kimo and Rubina.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't make any sense.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Like at its fundamental, like basic component, like Big Brother is a game

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_06]: where you remove the people you are not working with and keep the people you are working with.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And if you have people you're working with targeting other people you're working with,

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_06]: then you don't take out one of the people that you're working with to protect the other.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_06]: You just let that continue like because it's like it's no,

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_06]: it's better if one of your allies takes out another one of your allies,

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_06]: more so than one of your enemies taking out you.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, so it's like just always take out the people that are not working with you.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Keep yourself safe.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Keep yourself positioned.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_06]: That's just like a fundamental component.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_06]: People get way too cute with it.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_06]: They're like, well, if I sacrifice my piece, then I will win so much goodwill

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_06]: that I'll be able to do so on and so forth.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like that is not how the game works.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's not how people work.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it's yeah, it's anyway.

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it does feel like MJ was thinking like I don't want to end up in a position where

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I could end up on the block with Chelsea by Leo or I could end up on the block with Leah

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: if she stays without Angela.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, OK, well, you would stay in those scenarios.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And now instead, you will go home in the scenarios where you get put up on the block.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like not only would you stay, but actually then you don't have to deal with taking out

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: the person that's sitting next to you, which is which and both of those people like either

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Leo or Chelsea probably are ultimately more dangerous to her in terms of being in the

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: end with, you know what I mean?

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's just like.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, like I think this season has been really fun and really refreshing

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and really exciting and interesting to watch because it's like when you yell at sports,

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: it's fun to yell at the TV and tell them they're doing bad things.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And that happens in every season, but just a lot in this one.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The people I feel bad for are not the TV audience because they're having fun.

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad for the podcast audience because it's really difficult to be a strategy

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: analyst and not just sound like we're just like complaining about everything.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's only because we're just saying there is good strategy that could have been had.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It just isn't happening.

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, with 90 minute episodes, what else are we going to talk about?

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, like I think I think the thing that bothers me about the move is that it's the

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_06]: same move and same justification for the move that we've seen so many times from so many.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Recruits like it's just it's just a thing that people who don't know the game

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_06]: fall into like near every season and they always have the same attitude about it.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_06]: They always have the same like justification for it.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's just like, can we be like, can you at least be original with your mistake?

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, if you at least, you know, I think you're getting superpowers or something like,

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_06]: let's like, let's you know, let's be creative here and not just be every single other

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_06]: bad player who made the same bad mistake by taking out their ally when there were enemies in the house.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, at least if she was going to make the same bad mistake,

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_03]: she made it a really, really, really same bad mistake.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So that is one positive.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, she's an experiential learner.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And so she experienced it.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Now she's putting it into practice.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, so, of course, Chelsea is going to push this idea of taking Leah out.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Cam was also very instrumental in this.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_06]: He is not, I think, as sort of openly calculated as Chelsea.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_06]: He's not seemingly in the diary room being like,

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_06]: muahaha, I'm going to get Leah, get MJ to do this.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But but as we've talked about on the updates,

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_06]: the move probably doesn't happen without Cam there pushing this idea

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_06]: as it's Cam that MJ went to in her moments of doubts to really get this decision locked in.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_06]: But MJ starts to consider the idea and Chelsea is going to go and talk to

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Rubina and Kimo about it outside.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_06]: But uh oh, somebody's listening.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_06]: This is so good.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Here's what I liked about this, because this ultimately didn't really matter in terms of like

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_06]: it didn't go anywhere.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah didn't actually hear anything incriminating enough for it to make a difference.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_06]: But I thought the way they edited this was actually very fun.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And the key for me was they started this segment with MJ talking to Angela up in the loft

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_06]: and then they cut to like, here's what's happening outside while that conversation is happening.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah is overhearing these things.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And then when Leah goes to ask MJ about it, she's still upstairs talking to Angela.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And it just made it just like that small thing just like makes the whole thing feel so cohesive.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And like it's happening in real time.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It's much more of the live feed element that people love about the live feeds that it feels

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_06]: like, oh, I'm actually following this in real time.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Like they've been inside having the conversation that I started over here

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_06]: while this has been happening outside.

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's so fun.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And then after that, they go downstairs and Leah's talking to Angela

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and they're outside testing the audio.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like, you know, this was a fun segment.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It was.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I think my favorite part is the testing the audio part.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The like, not like, hey, we're going to come back to this later,

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: but like, let's do it right now.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And they get caught doing that, which is so great.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, shout out to Angela because she may have some really bad reads sometimes,

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: but she was 100% on to exactly what they were doing there, which was amazing.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Loved that.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, I don't know why I'm thinking Leah would have done this,

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: but that was a very missed opportunity to go up and somehow say something to Mackenzie

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: along the lines of, yeah, I heard them whisper my name and yours and how they're like,

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can't like come up with a definitive lie that could be easily fact checked.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But like a vibes thing of like Mackenzie,

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I get the vibe that they're like trying to keep things from you to something.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Like Jackson Mickey.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I think.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Why would he say his name?

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Why was the watermelon involved?

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Why are we talking about this?

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: In one way only.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Proactive lying.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But like, and I know it's difficult because you're afraid that if you say something definitive,

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: it'll be fact checked.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But like say something, you know, like Mackenzie, I feel like made three of us,

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, we're in this room together.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_04]: When I saw Leah going up there, I was hoping that she was about to cause

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_04]: like a ruckus and with Angela there, I was hoping that it was going to like become a whole thing.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, I think she like tried but didn't have.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, didn't follow through.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Or then leave really upset, cry, like really, really pull Mackenzie's emotional heartstrings

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: where Mackenzie cannot then turn around and put you on the block.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah, I mean, I think the problem was not that I think that Leah would have proactively

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_06]: lied because that's, again, kind of like a level of gameplay that we're not seeing in this house.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_06]: But like, I think that the biggest problem is that she didn't actually hear much.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_06]: So she didn't actually know enough about what was actually said.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_06]: If she had, then you can then, you know, use what you did here to for like

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_06]: create your credibility and then come up with whatever you want.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_06]: So if she hears like, oh, Chelsea said to Rubina and Kimo that you're going to backdoor me, Mackenzie.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_06]: What's up with that?

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_06]: She was also saying that this is perfect because we're getting her to take out her closest ally

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_06]: and we can go after her next week.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know what's going on.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Can you explain this to me, Mackenzie?

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And then Mackenzie will be like, oh, my God, the first part is totally.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, what about the second part?

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_06]: But she didn't actually like catch that.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_06]: So like, you know, if she did try, she would have just been like, yeah, they were saying your name.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I think.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Why not just lay on the floor and listen closer to what they were saying?

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, absolutely.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: That army crawl down the stairs.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like anything you have to do.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I would stay there all day.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_06]: That's like, probably.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I wonder if there's like, like something you could try to bring into the house that would like help.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know, like some kind of like, I don't know if there's a hearing device.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like an ear horn.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that a thing?

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe two cans of string.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Up the doors.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Genuinely, if there was some way to set up like some kind of eavesdrop, like the the amount of.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Like information and game, just like value you could create just by hearing things

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_06]: you shouldn't is is so astronomical.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And they're all living in this tiny little place.

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, like the walls aren't that thick.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_06]: If there if there was a way I feel like it would be super effective.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe maybe those those new air pods that are like you can like zone right in on someone.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And bring those in.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Get in.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: See, no, you leave your air pods in a different room and then you press on listen mode.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the that's the secret.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe genuinely, maybe it is just like like put a put put put a can with two cans of string.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_06]: But like just super incognito.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like those things at like parks where it's like you talk into one and then someone's

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_00]: on the other side of the playground and they can hear it.

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That might just be a pipe, actually.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_00]: In my mind, those were magical.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how those work.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That brings up a good point about the air pods, though.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like on Survivor, it's a much deeper history.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Has there ever been like stories of people trying to sneak things in the Big Brother?

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess they're probably checked more.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I haven't heard that very, very famously.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_06]: One person did.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I how about this?

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_06]: How about this?

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Oftentimes in Big Brother.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, just messing around goes to pranking, scaring people.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_06]: What if what if we did this intentionally?

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Like you hide in a trash can or in the bathroom or behind the couch or under a bed or something?

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're doing it just hoping to eavesdrop.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_06]: But if you ever need to or get caught.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_06]: You just scare him.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, scared you.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Prank.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It would actually make me like pranks again if that was if that was the case.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_00]: If it was.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_06]: It would not work.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Just to be clear.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I was my ability.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_06]: You would be seen right through.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Survivor crossover emerges.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Tony Blanco Sierra in the house.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I was hoping to scare you.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I laid under the bed silently for 30 minutes as you had a conversation.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like in that case, you do the move where it was like I was going to scare you.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I fell asleep.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Why weren't you snoring?

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, MJ is going to have one final conversation with Leah.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah says, I'm your ally.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to run this with you.

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it would be very silly if you did something like put me up.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just like, oh, man.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I think it's good for my game to keep her here.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_06]: But people want me to do the other thing.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and then she does the other thing.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_04]: She does the other thing.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's tough.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a tough look.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's been saying, like, I really don't want to be seen as the person who's

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_03]: just like influenced into doing what everyone else wants.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to stick by my own decisions.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, that is not what you're doing.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not what we're doing.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Like she even says it.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_06]: She says it because she knows because she definitely knows what she did.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And she's trying to she's trying very hard to feel like it's not what she did.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_06]: But it was brutal.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, when you know you've made a bad decision in Big Brother,

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like people usually just try to, like, convince yourself it wasn't a bad decision

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and double down as opposed to reversing course.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think of the most famous time someone has tried to reverse course

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and like how that had worked.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: How did how did someone convince them?

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like it's very tricky.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times it's because you need proof.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You need proof that the people Mackenzie thinks she's working with are somehow

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: not good for her game.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But Leah and Angela are no Chelsea.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're not going to be able to convince her of that.

[00:42:45] Yeah.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know what?

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say this instead of like putting everything on Mackenzie,

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: it's everyone else's fault for not trying to pick up Mackenzie earlier and keep her more

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: like Leah can say all she wants that they've had their back from the beginning,

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: but they never made like a really, really firm alliance.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't been like sharing information the whole time to each other.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't been actively working together the whole time.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_06]: She also, for the record, has not had MJ's back all season.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, right.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, it's like, yes, MJ made some really bad decisions here.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But like on the other hand, Chelsea is the one who has not to say the only one who has been.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_00]: She's the she's the one who's most consistently tried to keep MJ in her pocket.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that was really it's just good work on Chelsea.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it took her like two months to figure it out.

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_06]: But like she got there and in those two months, nobody else bothered to pick up.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is like it is the most ridiculous thing when you see like exit interviews or

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the goodbye messages where someone this late in the game will say something like,

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, we just never really talk game together in 80 days.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, what were you doing?

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Why did you never talk game?

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Why did you never or just oh, we don't really have a relationship.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You've been stuck in a two story house for months.

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's that I mean, that whole sentiment is like triggering.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why people don't want to talk game.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_04]: That's like literally what we're doing, you know.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think it's like I'm Mary.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like happy that you said that thing about like that we should just be giving props to

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Chelsea.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, yeah, MJ made the wrong decision.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But like, I don't think we're giving enough credit to Chelsea.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Because like she made sure every step of the way she's so patient in the way that she like

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_04]: scaffolds her manipulation or something, you know, and she just like Chelsea played this week.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Great.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and the shot of her like massaging MJ with the sinister music in the slow pan

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_06]: and then cam gets in the shot and ruins it.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't say this often while watching Big Brother, but art that was art.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's also like, I don't know.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking about this, you know, MJ has that like, I mean,

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_04]: this has been sort of contagious this season, but that idea of like,

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: oh, I, you know, I'm playing, you know, you know, a loyal game and I'm playing,

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, with the people that I like and all of this.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like funny because like MJ is starting to really preach that now too.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And even her like, oh, Leah, it's not personal or whatever.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But Leah is actually the one that wants a friendship with MJ and Chelsea like is so

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_04]: obviously just like using her as a piece to her game.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's just like, oh, MJ, like sweet baby angel, you know, you've just been,

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_04]: your reads have been wrong the entire time.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And even here with your like closest people, you've got it reversed.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And MJ uses the veto on chemo here and, you know, you'd think it would make him happy.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_06]: But he tells us in the diary room MJ's his next target.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Congrats, MJ, you've kept people here that want to target you and you've targeted people

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_06]: that were on your side.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_03]: This is what's so bad about it for MJ and so impressive for Chelsea because we're going

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_03]: into a double eviction where Chelsea very well could have found herself in the most

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_03]: trouble she's ever been in this game.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And somehow instead, she's the safest person in the house and getting the current HOH to

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_03]: be the most vulnerable like she got someone to set up next week completely not in her

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_03]: own interest.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And Leah is very upset, of course.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Now I will say what I liked about this episode.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Another thing I liked about this episode, it did not end with the veto ceremony.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_06]: You got a little bit of the fallout in this as well, which I really liked.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought this made it so much more effective than a normal episode would be.

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Then it got weird with AI stuff.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, up until then, it was doing very well.

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And Leah is, you know, crying in the in the bedroom.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, oh, I made the wrong decision last week.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I should have trusted my gut.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I even knew what to do and I didn't do it.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_06]: And honestly, I'm not healed yet.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, yes, you should have made a wrong decision.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Got to get it out of me.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Part of me feels like it's like, oh, if MJ wasn't so stupid, the taking out of T-Corp

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_04]: wouldn't look stupid, you know, like.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_06]: That's why it was stupid because you knew that MJ was so close to Chelsea.

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yes.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're not thinking like that, you know, I don't know.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, at least Leah realizes this.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I think MJ could walk out the door right behind her and she still have no idea why it was such

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_03]: a bad move.

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we could be on finale night and she like maybe at that point she's still like, I love

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's going to take a little bit for her to realize like this is the point she lost

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_03]: the game.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, then we got this AI stuff.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_06]: AI Julie is on the screen.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_06]: She's reading out a bunch of facts and oh, oh, oh.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_06]: It's actually Ainsley.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, gotcha.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_04]: That should.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's an AI screen.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Why would an AI screen be saying like, oh, AI is bad.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Look how it's corrupt.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry I didn't fall for the the trick.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It was.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, definitely did not fall for the trick.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a lot involving the government.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Like the Pentagon was enough.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: We already had some weird moments there.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that the government is investigating Ainsley.

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_03]: She's trying to like stage a coup.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely a lot for this.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where they're going.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_06]: It's so weird to me that they're like writing in a side plot of like a sci-fi show from like,

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_06]: like the channel sci-fi show from like the 2010s into a season of Big Brother like on the side.

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm kind of here for it, but it's definitely weird to end this episode with.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially with the like whole good robot segment with the show tie in,

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: which by the way, side note, really missed opportunity to have another

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Sari cameo pitching the movie.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I don't like about the way they set up this twist or whatever

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_00]: it's going to be that's coming up.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Most likely it's going to have to do with the HOH competition or some other twist

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that's happening for next week.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Who cares?

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter.

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Point is I hate when they do this.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I know they have to set up like potential things you study for whatever before the age of age,

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_00]: but all it does is take the attention off the people who are on the block and be like,

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, yeah, we're already moved on to thinking about next week.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_00]: One of you most likely a specific one of you is going.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And so we actually don't care about your campaign right now because

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_00]: we're focusing on this other thing.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And for the people who are on the block, it's like, oh, shoot.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I like I probably need to care about this and study it,

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm probably going home too.

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I don't like about these kind of things.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, it stifles gameplay, you know, like some of the like.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Which if a arena was still around.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_00]: We would at least have that to contend with.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They would at least have to think about the people who are still on the block, which is nice.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, anything else in the episode before we talk a little bit about these?

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I looked away at one point and then I forgot that I couldn't rewind.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_00]: There was something about Rubina way at the beginning.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_00]: What did she do?

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Would she like do something impressive?

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I just heard.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it was a hike.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It was powder back on top of the fridge.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we don't get to see Rubina and MJ standing next to each other as much

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_00]: like when when Rubina put the veto on MJ, I was like, whoa, she's having to.

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought like Rubina was sitting down or something for a second.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_06]: It's wild.

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like Daniela and Dwight Howard.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_04]: No, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Wrong show.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_06]: All right, well, let's talk a little bit about the feeds then.

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[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Still, still, still.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, still.

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_06]: It's the slapping noise.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_06]: So how are things going?

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, MJ did say at the end of the episode that she doesn't actually want to target Leah.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_06]: She's just putting her up on the block so that people can vote her out.

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And those things are totally compatible.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So Leah had a long conversation with MJ after being nominated where she said,

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going after you, dummy.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, in so many words, it took a couple of hours.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But MJ started to finally realize, oh, maybe I shouldn't have done that.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe I shouldn't want Leah gone and has been trying to campaign for Leah to stay ever since.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And while Chelsea has on the surface been open to this idea and has talked to Leah about her

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_06]: staying, she is not actually on board with Leah staying.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_06]: As we have learned today on the feeds, she is saying there's no shot in hell.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_06]: She is flipping this vote to keep Leah.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_06]: So Leah will be leaving on Thursday night, which is tomorrow night.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_06]: What's she going to do?

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_04]: She can try.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_04]: At this point, she's got to follow through, right?

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's just kind of like, you know, MJ is still fighting.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, as we speak, I believe she is perhaps talking with camp and trying to make sure

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_06]: that Leah stays.

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, it's an interesting turn of events because, you know, the best way to

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_06]: make sure that Leah stays is to not nominate her.

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like she has an HOH and the POV this week.

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_06]: HOH, veto and the worst thing for her game and a thing that she's actually actively trying

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_06]: to make not happen is happening.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_00]: My pitch is that in the future, we move the stock watch to be on Friday, because here's

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the thing.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: When you start on Tuesday, I was like, oh, MJ is doing great.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_00]: She got T-Core out.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_00]: She's Chelsea's not doing that well.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And then but and then and then it was just crashed and burned.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like I don't get any credit for all of the good stuff that MJ was doing at the

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_00]: beginning of the of the stock watch week.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, to be fair, I was I was tanging to the second she said Angela was her target

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_00]: for that.

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about the previous eviction.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We got two days.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, in addition to all of this, something that they left out of the episode, I don't

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_06]: know if you've seen it, but the CEO and Chelsea had already been talking about targeting MJ

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_06]: as soon as the double eviction.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_06]: That was before any of the Leah stuff.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_06]: They were like, man, she won a veto, too, and she crushed us.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Why don't we think about taking her out if we have the option?

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Then the Leah stuff happened and they actually managed to convince her to take out Leah.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And of course, they were so focused on that they stopped talking about targeting MJ for

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_06]: about a second because already again, just today, just earlier, they were talking once

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_06]: again about if they have the shot on MJ, they should take it.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Now, they're not sure if they could do it themselves.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_06]: But if, say, MJ was on the block against Angela via Kimo or Rubina, let's definitely vote MJ out

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_06]: and let's sort of encourage that to happen, which is actually kind of interesting, I think,

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_06]: because I don't think that's quite the play for Chelsea right now.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_06]: As we just saw, MJ is putty in her hands.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_06]: She beats her in the end.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_06]: She's a great ally, I think, to keep around as a target for other people.

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Not sure why she would want MJ out, but for Cam, I mean, that's great.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Great move for Cam.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Part of me feels like Chelsea realizes she could do whatever she wants and it's super boring in there.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's honestly very fun.

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think she's just like, oh, I mean, I guess MJ does win things that could be threatening,

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_04]: even though I totally agree with you, Taren.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_04]: She should just continue taking Cam and MJ as far as possible.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I guess, well, maybe I take that back.

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I worry about whatever closeness they have would mean one of them, if they were the final three,

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_04]: would take.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, perhaps she worries about that.

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it's a fun how that MJ takes.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, like I think those three in particular should all be thinking about

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_04]: what does that scenario look like?

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I just I think that Chelsea has been in the mindset of so long,

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_03]: if it would be such a waste to get out Angela, Kimo or Robina,

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_03]: that's like, OK, well, I'm still not going to do that because what are they doing?

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So MJ?

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, so basically what we're looking at here for the double eviction

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_06]: is that there are seven people in the house right now.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, MJ is one of six other people in the house.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Four of those six current people in the house actively want her gone as soon as possible.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_06]: The other two she nominated.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And one of those people is leaving.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so she could probably win the veto.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And the problem is like we're in a situation where Angela

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_00]: like almost might need to work with MJ.

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though which sucks for both of them.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like like Angela's like you put me on the block.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You voted out my best ally, who is also one of yours.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And now you're all that I have left.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And this was not like an intentional move by MJ.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't well, maybe it was.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it was there an intentional move by MJ to say, I want to get Angela closer to me?

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like that wasn't expressed this week.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_06]: No, she wanted Angela out.

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_06]: She still wants Angela.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_06]: That's right.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not even a clever maneuver.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, yeah, sure.

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It would benefit MJ and Angela to work together.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But if MJ has her way next week, she probably would still want Angela go on.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So like, oh, it doesn't even matter.

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't even matter.

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_04]: They're not capable of like aligning their interests at this point.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Like not a lot of them have that kind of like it doesn't matter that I hate you,

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, or it doesn't matter that like I'm annoyed by this.

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_04]: We're all we have left like they I don't know.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't seem like they can really rationalize it like that.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, what are Kimo and Rubina's plan?

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_00]: What is not like, oh, yeah, they want to get Mackenzie.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_00]: What is their plan to win or to get to the end?

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Do they have one?

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_00]: We never hear them talk about it.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_06]: When what does that work?

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_04]: When that means you're a bad person.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to win this game, Mary, I can understand the middle part of the game

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_00]: where you're like showmance partner gets out and you're like, you know what?

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me just sit back, relax, turn invisible and try to have fun and see how long I can last.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_00]: When you're actually at the end game where you could win.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just blown away by the fact that they're not even thinking about it.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_04]: She's they've never even when she was with her showman.

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_04]: That was never part of it.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_00]: When it was never part of it.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like actually, you're going to be at a point where you have like a one in five

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: or one in four shot at winning and you have no plan for how you're going to do that.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Their plan is just to get to the end together.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_06]: That's that is the plan.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: How you haven't won anything by winning.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I friendship like hope like they don't have a plan for this week,

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_03]: let alone for weeks from now.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_06]: They're hoping that people realize that MJ is a big threat and that everyone will go after MJ.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And then once MJ is gone, they'll hope that everyone will go after Angela.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And then when Angela is gone, they'll hope that they can win.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And then when they don't win, they'll hope that T-Core is happy with them in the jury house.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know, like, they'll hope that they get to spend some time with her.

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, it'll be great.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been wondering, like, OK, right now, like, OK, you haven't you haven't thought about strategy

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_00]: still? You haven't thought about still? Still?

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm talking about strategy.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We're at the end of the game.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Still, Kimo, they don't have a starting point.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like I it's not that I have empathy for them because I don't,

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, like but it's like they don't.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like what we expect them to be like thinking about,

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: they don't even know that that's what you should be thinking about.

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Kimo does, though he does.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Like he's a fan.

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_06]: The way he talked about the game before he went in, the way he was talking about the game

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_06]: in the first couple of weeks when he was still active and when he led the vote flip against

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Cedric, like like that's that's that's a Kimo that like existed at one point in time.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And Rubina is a very capable social player who is actually like actively good at like

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_06]: winning people to her side and convincing them to do things.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just that they like we're so wrapped up in like the friendship world of like,

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_06]: hey, it's just us against the world.

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And we're singing songs that like they don't seem to even think at all about positioning

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_06]: or like how to advance their own game from a personal standpoint.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And if they somehow are to get to the end,

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_03]: they can still win because they could be against each other.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: They could be they could be against MJ and then they would have the other two of the trio

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: plus like probably Leah, maybe Angela Quinn at this point.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't know these two definitely still could win.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just they'll probably fall backwards into it.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_06]: So basically what we're looking at for the double eviction is Chelsea and Cam would theoretically

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_06]: target Angela.

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_06]: They would feel uncomfortable doing MJ themselves.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_06]: But in the midst of a double eviction, if they have the power and ability,

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_06]: we'll see.

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Kimo and Rubina would straight up target MJ.

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And Angela would, who knows at this point, but maybe do like Cam and Chelsea or MJ and Chelsea

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_06]: or something like that.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_06]: And the shot would fall on Cam or MJ most likely.

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And I guarantee you a lot of people will be like, oh, no, don't put Cam up, put MJ next to Chelsea.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And then that might also be a scenario where we lose MJ.

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So what I'm saying is it doesn't look amazing for MJ.

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It also doesn't look amazing for Angela if the shot doesn't land on MJ.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_06]: So watch out.

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is also just like another reason why MJ like stop and pause for one second.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Think, what do you think Kimo and Rubina are going to do if they get power?

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you want them to get Angela out, but Angela's one person.

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So who do you think is going up on the block?

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Angela has been known to be decent at competitions.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: What is going to happen if Angela wins?

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that they're going to target Chelsea and Cam, especially after you spent this week

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_00]: talking publicly about how you don't like someone who is targeting Chelsea or Cam?

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_06]: She is making that argument right now because she's trying to campaign for Angela to leave.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_06]: The problem is that she put Leah on the block.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so funny when part of Chelsea's argument was like, well, what if Leah wins?

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, well, what if anyone else wins?

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ like you would have been fine with Leah and you didn't think about a single other

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_03]: person's H.O.H. apparently.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's what's going on.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Anything else?

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And that was that was it, you know?

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and it really is like it's an entertaining show.

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's frustrating the lack of strategy, which is make the podcasting

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: difficult to be optimistic about.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But the entertainment is there for me on the TV show.

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's fun.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that is what we have for you then tonight.

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Of course, I'll be back tomorrow morning to update you on everything that happens

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_06]: today on the Big Brother 26 live feeds and then tomorrow night's double eviction.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll be live on Twitch watching reacting live.

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So tune in for that.

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And then we'll be here on the podcast to talk about it.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And joining us is another special guest.

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Queen's coming to get what's hers.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Juan Taylor Hale will be with us to talk about the double eviction.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_06]: So tune in for that and check out our circle coverage.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_06]: What a season of the circle it's been.

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_04]: What a very good watching, is he?

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't caught up on the most recent batch, but it's been good.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It's actually been good.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm so happy they're letting them play.

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They let them play.

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Lots more strategy in the circle.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Lots, lots more cutthroat messiness.

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_06]: It's been fun stuff there on the circle.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_06]: So check that out.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And of course, we got plenty of scripted stuff over there.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_06]: We know scripted TV as well as what you got going on.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Anything I'm doing is on Twitter at Brian underscore Scali on Twitch at Twitch TV,

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: slash B Scali myself and Puyo covering the season of the Traders Canada live after the episodes

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: on Monday.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So people should be around for those come hang out.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And then myself and Matt Ligori are talking about the challenge season 40 over on the

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: free agents podcast.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So go give that a listen.

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And Izzy, how about you?

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you got going on?

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, I don't know.

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I don't know.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Follow me on Twitter.

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm playing flute, teaching flute, talking to myself in my own home.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You can't tune in for that.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm so sorry.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Perfect.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, how about you, Mary?

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Just around the corner is yet another season of Love is Blind.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can follow me everywhere at Frail Mary and then check out the love it first site

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: wrap up to check out myself and Jason Reed and Survivor 47's own Asia Welch covering the

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: next season of Love is Blind that'll be coming out soon.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty sure it's DC, I think.

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Not 100% sure on that.

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They've been casting for like eight different seasons at once, but I think that's what's next.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that is what we have for you then tonight.

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Unless, you know, we just want to hang around for another like 10 hours, something like

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_06]: that if you guys still still still still.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a good summary of the pressure.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you all so much for joining us.

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll see all of you next time.

[01:07:11] Bye.