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[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello everyone and good morning.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to our live feed update for August 21st.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm your restaurant armstrong and I'm here today to talk about top that you on everything that happened yesterday.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: On the big brother 26 live feeds, it was day 36 in the house.
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's more talking or maybe flipping.
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: There's some stuff to talk about here and with me to talk about it.
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's for a hidden story.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Good idea.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I had a question for you.
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you prefer podcasting with a guest or being more of like a lone wolf?
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I really enjoy.
[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I know this might sound weird as a podcast or maybe as a player of big brother as well.
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just enjoy being by myself.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: If I had the HOH room, I'd just always have it to myself.
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd probably just spend a lot of time by myself.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Not talk.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's the best way to play the game.
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But turn, let me say, you're never alone when you're with God.
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Luckily, luckily.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, planning to talk about from yesterday.
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, some comedy, some some strategy.
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So let's get into it.
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, Tucker is the HOH,
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: denominated Brooklyn Ham and Quinn.
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He then won the video, used it on Quinn to put up Chelsea.
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Much to the sugar in of T4 and Kema.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, that's where the nominations stand.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But of course, T4 and Kema, they talked the day before about, you know,
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: should we keep Chelsea over Ham since we want Chelsea to stay?
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: They also even mentioned after T4 had a conversation with Brooklyn about keeping the women around.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe what it would, what would it look like to even try to keep Brooklyn over Ham?
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So that is what we need to pay attention to this week is given that T4 and Kema have done this before.
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Will they try to do something similar again and take a shot, uh, and flip this vote?
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's that's that's what we're paying attention to.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I feel like T4 and Kema talked a lot about their procrastinating habits.
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But they've also learned a lot of bad lessons because they fully got away with it last week.
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is, as these like assignments get harder and harder,
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: it's eventually going to blow up on them.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Lipping the vote this week is a lot higher level of difficulty than flipping the vote last week.
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And if they wait for that same like post-AI arena flip time, I'm just excited to watch it, I guess.
[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, it's also like for what it's worth MJ winning the AI arena competition was like,
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: not like that was like one of the more likely AI competition outcomes,
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: whereas Ham winning which is the reverse, the thing that would make the flip not happen
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: is probably a little bit more likely to happen. So it's like this scenario they're planning for is
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: perhaps not quite as likely to happen. But um, we'll talk about it.
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We start the day, uh, really Rubina, we've talked about this. Not the biggest fan of Joseph.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: No, is anybody a big fan of Joseph in the house? I have some ice tucker talking about him.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just super interesting of like Joseph is everyone's a favorite person in the house.
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Which could be a lot worse, but you know, there's only so many times until you're in the final
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: late and then you're targeted. So again, like you've talked yesterday in the roundtable,
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I was probably the best strategic player in the house, the most active strategic player.
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: He very well could be the worst social player or at least top bottom two or three.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's pretty fair. Um, and uh, and for like one of the things that
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: stood out to me is him talking about how he strategically isolates himself, um, which I just,
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't love that. Um, and I feel like he does that too much, right? Like it's, it's so
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: much that people don't feel like they have a solid connection with him other than Tucker. And when
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: he does then actually talk to people and hang out with people, like for instance, Ham,
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: it becomes very obvious that he's doing that. Joseph is, is hanging out with Ham more because
[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: he's trying to pull Ham in, knowing that Ham is going to stay in his mind. Um, and because
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: he very rarely does socialize all that much, uh, it's like a layering alarm to anyone that is
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: suspicious of Joseph. Oh, look at him hanging out with Ham all of a sudden, like that's so unusual.
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to, I think Joseph is just rationalizing. I think it's been a lot of social interaction
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: for him. This obviously isn't his normal way of existing. And then when he spends time alone,
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: he's trying to justify it strategically. I don't think there's a strategic justification. I think
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: he's just tired and I get that problem is he also has the accompanying mustache and for time
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: he talks to people. He just seems suspicious, which I know a lot about. So like, I can empathize with
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph. But when people talk about his ego, they're also is that element of like he's playing the game
[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: in his own head. So when he's just sitting there doing nothing, he's imagining that everyone else
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: is thinking about him. When the truth is like if they are, it's usually not a good thing.
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Having an outpouring of sympathy, um, but I just think he's tired here.
[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's right. I think that's exactly right. Um, so Rubina is suspicious of Joseph doesn't love
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph in the game and is suspicious that Joseph and Tucker might have a final two, some kind of
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: morning and he's not very convincingly denies it. Like what? What? No. He's doing the thing to
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: a repeat. And he's like, who knows where Joseph sat, but he's definitely not a threat. He talked
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: to Joseph. Like who knows where Rubina is at, but she's definitely not a threat. And I think
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it's becoming very clear exactly what Tucker's endgame is. Yes. Yes. I think so too. Now he does warn
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph, like hey, uh, Rubina is suspicious of us. She thinks that we're in a final two. I denied it.
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It's she is also like not really trusting you. She thinks that you're like the super fan that has all this
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: knowledge and Joseph is like damn. Well, I will say like it actually isn't that big of a problem
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: because Tucker is telling Joseph. It's not a big deal. I've got Rubina and he kind of does, um,
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: the whole idea of trying to convince people in my season was, I know you don't trust America, but
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I won't let America do X, Y or Z, which you have done it who knows. As long as Joseph maintains his
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_01]: relationship with Tucker, like you could do the transit of property alliance, I think. Yes.
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it only lasts so long, but if it gets you down to final whatever, I think you take it.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It is, it's a tricky formula where, where like somebody like Tucker who has allies who just
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: like each other. Um, it's like, how do you maintain that grouping because it benefits you to have
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: all of those people in, especially if they dislike each other? But you don't want them just like each
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: other so much that they actually go after each other. Um, but then you also don't want to like do the
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: uh, the like Danielle Danado thing in season 22 and like make them love each other and then work with each
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: other more than you. Uh, so not that that would happen in Tucker's case, but on honestly in Tucker's
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it's he probably should just be trying to get them to trust each other as much as possible because they're
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: always going to be more loyal to him. It's a very scary position for Joseph because Rupina's got people
[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: backing her, Rupina has Tico. chemo. It's great to have like your final two be a bigger threat than
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: you. Sit next to them on the block. They go home. But when that final two person is a copy,
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: you could very easily just get like caught in the middle something caught in the fry. It's straight
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: bullet hits you and I feel like Joseph is so much more vulnerable to that than someone like Rupina
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: because Rupina can get votes. Joseph is so easy for everyone in the house but Tucker it'll just
[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_02]: like go. Yeah. Um, all right. So shift in gears, uh, you you kind of mentioned it earlier.
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, MJ has her own kind of journey through the day. She's just continuing to exist.
[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: All four camps. Um, and man, uh, so okay. It's it's a little hard to like fully get into MJ
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: his mind. But uh, she's kind of learned that she was betrayed by Chelsea and Brooklyn.
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But MJ since Matt left has been so socially isolated and not isolated in the way that like,
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: um, you know that like outcasts often are where like nobody ever talks to them.
[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's because she's there. Like it's because you can tell that she's very used to like not being
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: isolated in any way. Um, so she's perfectly fine to like just put herself in situations even when
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: she's not like, you know, somebody that people want to be hanging out with. She's always there.
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: She's talking to people all the time. Um, it's just that people don't really vibe with her very well.
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, she kind of sees that and, and the issue is that the people that
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: vibe with her the most, the people that she was able to connect with the most,
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: word Chelsea and Brooklyn primarily through, uh, from her perspective at least conversations about their faith.
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, you know, unfortunately for her, Brooklyn and Chelsea don't really like MJ. They were just
[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: pretending and that was an easy way for them to pretend to connect with her. And I'm sure they did
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: actually connect with her on that level. But game wise, they were not connecting with her. Um, and so now she's
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: found out, oh, Chelsea and Brooklyn were playing me and also everyone wants them out. And so I need
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: simultaneously, like, distance myself from them while like talking, like getting in with other
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: people. But at the same time, there's still the only people I really am able to connect with.
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And so she is still able to, you know, to their face. He like, yeah, I'm totally still with you.
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But she's now also kind of like, well, who am I actually going to talk to now?
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She's going to try with Leah. Uh, and with other people. But it just doesn't land like she just
[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: cannot connect with anybody in this house. She is so different from everybody else.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: She runs the same script with everyone as well. It's not like she's she's very
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: upset that no one's willing to talk strategy with her. But if she gave the other person a chance to respond
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: to what she was saying ever, I think there's like a better likelihood of that happening.
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a self-affluent prophecy is the way I view MJ's game. If she goes up to everyone and says no
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: one's willing to work with anyone's willing to talk to me. And then someone like Joseph, who obviously
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: is willing to scheme with anybody starts opening up and MJ's like, you know what? I'm just going
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: to ride this thing as a lone wolf. And it's like, well, what's my incentive to talk to you strategically,
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: that? Like if you're just going to do this thing solo and even worse, what she says is, you know,
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I trust nobody except talker. Yeah. And that like shuts the door on any game conversations that
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_02]: has wants to have with you. She tells so many people this and it's like, well,
[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_02]: would you, why would you tell somebody else? I don't trust anyone except for except for Tucker.
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that makes no sense. Not a lot of what she does make sense. So I mentioned this last night,
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_02]: but this to me, like, perfectly is encapsulated by this lengthy discussion she has with Leah
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_02]: in the HOA trim one Tucker is like falling asleep and he definitely falls asleep for real at
[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: some points, but as also I'm sure like pretending to be asleep at other points. Not that he's
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_02]: listen, not that he's getting any valuable information. Because MJ is just talking about
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: her lone wolf thing, her faith, talking like I did this whole thing last night. She's like,
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: oh, let me just show you a Bible passage. Let me just find it here real quick as she looks
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_02]: for like a minute or two and then he's like, oh, this is it and then reads it. And Leah
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_02]: is like, yeah, I'm not really religious much, but yeah, that's chill. And is just literally just
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: there just like, it was like a weird like dialogue tree between Leah and MJ where MJ just kept
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: saying she's a lone wolf and Leah kept saying she wouldn't lie to someone and they'd just kept
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: going back and forth and not responding to each other's statement. I mean, listen, passed out.
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I've never, I've never seen Leah talk less than a conversation. This was the least interested
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: she's ever been in a conversation. And at one point she even says like, you know, listen,
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that you love God. Basically, she didn't say this as a vampire, but like don't let people use
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: that to manipulate you in this game. And MJ's like, that's a great point, but let me find you
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: another Bible passage that's relevant to that. And so I just feel like, you know, God has me here
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: to be like, to be enacting his will. And he will keep me here as long as I can influence the
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: game for him and it's so in itself. It's a very kind of dangerous like strategy to use, because putting
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: aside the ethical implications, it's big brother, whatever. MJ has set herself up to, she's either
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: not going to lie to anyone in the entire season, which obviously is not good for big brother. Or if she
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: does lie, everyone's going to be furious at her because she's put her like religion on the line.
[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And God wanted her to lie. God wanted her to lie and tuck her in Leah just a few days ago,
[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: we're talking about all these ethangular religious people. And so like this is not the right
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: audience. It's a really powerful way to like bond yourself with somebody else, but that bond is like
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: permanent or you're just cementing bitterness. So like I don't think MJ's thinking that deep,
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: she's just very religious. She's has to even more self aware of who she's talking to.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, religion in big brother not always super successful as a bonding agent. There was team
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Christ back in the day, but apart from that like, never really, I would say,
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Felicia and Matt was a big deal. They would read the Bible together. And I think that
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: really helped Felicia view him as like, oh, he's a good guy. He won't betray me. And I don't
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: think he was reading the Bible as a strategy, but it helps.
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. So T-Core is going to talk to Chelsea. There's a lot of T-Core chemo.
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: They both talk to Chelsea. They both talk to Brooklyn. They have very similar conversations that
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: they've been having. But the stuff that matters is that Brooklyn is still saying my targets are
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: when Joseph and Chelsea is saying my target is, who do you want me to turn it?
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_02]: My target is probably Joseph Joseph. And then other maybe other not you definitely not you.
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely not you guys anybody but you guys is basically my target. And also I will vote out if I
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_02]: come off the block. I will vote out. Brooklyn, you will Brooklyn because she's the target and
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even that like me and Cam now are kind of the thing. So I'll vote out Brooke Brooklyn.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Brooke Brooklyn. And also you guys love Tucker. I'm not even going to go after Tucker at this
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_02]: point. Like he's chill with me says Chelsea. And ironically, this is not what T-Core and chemo
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: it's it's so interesting and big brother when you could see exactly what someone's trying to do
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: in their conversation. And I think the biggest red fact she says like who would you target? She goes,
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I would target everyone who's not been on the block except you T-Core except you I would not
[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: target you're the exception to the rule. I would target somebody else other than you.
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Tucker is the HOH. Ultimately who he wants to go seemingly will go. I think she has the
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: instinct here. But I almost like Brooklyn strategy a bit more of saying like this guy's a problem.
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You are my people. My final five is T-Core, chemo, Rabina, me and Chelsea. This is my group
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: moving forward. I want to target Tucker but it's a ballsy thing to do when you're Chelsea and you think
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: you're probably safe against Brooklyn. You kind of want to maintain the status quo and I think
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: that's kind of what she's trying to do. Yes. I think you know generally Chelsea's strategy is
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: the better one but with T-Core and chemo, they kind of operate differently than most players would in
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: this spot. And so it's interesting. So they still do want to keep Chelsea around and one of the
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: things that she was doing does help which is that she's saying that she's willing to vote out
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Brooklyn which makes them feel like oh well if we have both Brooklyn and Chelsea. Chelsea's already
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: separating from Brooklyn. Not realizing that that's obviously not true like that. It's just absolutely
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: still be locked in. And frankly no matter who stays between Brooklyn or Cam, Chelsea is going to
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: be locked in with that person. If you get rid of Chelsea then you actually could potentially pick
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_02]: up Brooklyn and Pam separately but Chelsea is a glue that would be stuck to either one of them.
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think it's something to worry about. If Chelsea or Brooklyn stays against Cam,
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: it's going to be because of you. So you should have them in your corner for a while and it's
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: not like you're a massive comp piece threat that needs to be dealt with. I think
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: it's optimistic them thinking that Brooklyn and Chelsea would target each other especially when
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: they're talking to each other for 70% of today. But you know I think they're just trying to just
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_02]: so lots of those conversations happening will get to sort of the late night debrief that they
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: will often have later. When I noticed when was doing something he was catching some heat for this
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and this is something I think near and dear to your heart for you that he was very publicly studying
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: some days. Yeah, we're inevitably winnings in the final four and the comp pops up.
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at all defend Quinn here. Everyone knows you're studying the days. Like Quinn is not even
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: trying the Joseph facade. What's the point? Well he should do it start to go into his biggest enemies
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and sharing his strategies for counting the days. That's the full Corey. I don't have too much
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: to a point where he needs to know the days is far surpassed every expectation we have.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's got to be a way to just very early on before anybody has a chance to just
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: really try to incept an incorrect fact about the like an incorrect thing. Like oh, I'm a big fan of
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_02]: like day one week one. I'm a big fan of the show. Yeah, the night we move in that's day zero.
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_02]: They always count that as day zero. So this is our first official day. Like or even like yeah,
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: this is our first full day. This is our first official. This is day one guys. This is day one
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: of the game and then from then on only ever study like that. I feel up but I just said it out loud.
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't just imagine you're in the house, Terran. They're doing the champagne like
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: introduction. You're like just so everybody knows. Today's comp in the future. But blue did that
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: on our season a little bit. There was a name of a Pino cop, none of us knew and she made up a fake
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: name. Never mattered. But honestly, she might have just thought she knew the name. All right. So
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Tick-Ron Kimo again, they're going to talk some more during the day. They agree they do want to keep
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: them. They're getting a little concern. It's not even just Chelsea anymore. They're talking to
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ. They're talking to all of us on all these people who are not saying they want to talk
[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: target Tucker anymore. What's up with that? They don't like this. What's going on?
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Then Kimo is like, I don't want to target Tucker. But it is very concerning and I think the silver
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: lining for Tucker this entire HOH rain is he got MJ and Leah seemingly out of nowhere. He's pulled
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: them in. And I think if you're T. Core and Kimo, it's like, there was this idea of everyone's
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: going to be targeting Tucker eventually. He'll be a shield and all the sudden this shield has 18
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: shields in front of him. And like the best thing to do, I guess is pick away one of them but even
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: then he still has an army of three or four others. They're in a really tough spot and I get their
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: idea of let's weaken him any way we can. But I think you got to pick a spot eventually when you're
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_01]: okay. Maybe I ride this guy instead of making my whole game dedicated to getting him out.
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Again, this is the problem with people with people with people with people that can just win
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: so many conferences that like there's just no way of actually playing with them successfully
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: if you want to win the game. You just have to like you can try to use them as a shield but then
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_02]: other people will have the exact same thought and try to do the same thing and then everyone will
[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: be following oh of themselves to work with this person. And then even if you do decide to
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: clip on them now they have a different army that they will use against you. It's it's a very like
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a tricky spot to be in. I was so sad yesterday I was on stream talking about like
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Joseph's best plan is to cut Tucker at three. Like that is the most sure fire way
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll just get to part three of a 50-50 shot vote him out when the game against Angela and it's like
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: it seems ridiculous and I know Quinn was talking about like oh maybe a double of fiction is the
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: time to get rid of Tucker. The time to get rid of Tucker is anytime there isn't the AI arena
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: so maybe that is a double of action but people are talking about always it too early to comp out
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: he doesn't have to comp out like not at all he has half the house is a winning outcome for him so
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that's when compies get like dangerously dangerous yeah. So I came out again they
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: came out talks to Brooklyn he has a similar conversation with her that T.C. ordered the day before
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: she mentions she's targeting Tucker she says she mentions the final five that they what that they want to do
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll honestly a lot of repeat conversations throughout the day including Joseph and Tucker who talk
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: again about Rubina being suspicious about their final two. They also though very funny go over the
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: some of the alliance names in the game so far and Tucker mentions the five points
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: alliance and Joseph is like oh that's a terrible name and Tucker's like no it's not I thought it was
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: good name I made that name yeah from the originator of the fishies slash the tanks slash the fishes
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker's graded a lot of things this is not one of them yeah um now more interestingly they talk
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: about D.C. or Kimo and Rubina and how Joseph definitely sees them as like a tight three
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and Tucker agrees and he says yeah I mean they're basically like I'm kind of with them in the
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_02]: core of this alliance the six avenue that this is like it doesn't really include you and Joseph is
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: like well I mean that's that's great and all but I don't think they're loyal to you I don't think
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that T.C. or and Kimo actually want to bring you to the end I think they're going to want to take
[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: shot at you like eight or nine yeah it's I think it's good by Joseph he needs all these people
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: targeting each other because the second they don't have a clear target he will be the clear target
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: the the problem with Joseph is like well it's actually a good thing if he gets caught I don't know
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: how much it hurts his game okay I already know like certain rust of so like and ultimately if he gets
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: caught it's still going to be clear to Tucker and to Kimo that they're having these conversations
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_01]: about targeting each other so again that's another layer of protection for Joseph it's a very
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: interesting kind of game we're like your social capital is so low that you're kind of playing
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: with how some money to hold time but you're also not on death story it's it's weird to watch
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_02]: but I do kind of enjoy it. But his only asset in the game is Tucker right and so like he should be
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_02]: using Tucker as much as possible like like just doing everything he can to use Tucker because like
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: if Tucker leaves or once this ends like he's got very little else going on so I agree I think just
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: like play it as much as possible. I think his next step is he needs to just get into the MJ and
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah because if that like other side of the Tucker core develops he's been trying to work with Leah forever
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: his talk in MJ yesterday I'll try to get to or maybe we won't because it was just dreadful it was
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: like he needs to get in with those people because the tequimo like they're too smart to want to work with Joseph
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_02]: he needs to work with his players. I agree and I've been saying this for a I think Leah is his path to win
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: but also Leah is it's it's a very tricky path
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and but honestly I said the same thing about Tucker and he managed it with Tucker so it's possible
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: he manages the Leah thing and I say that Leah is a tricky path because plenty of people have tried to
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_02]: work with her in the past but plenty of people are also people like ham and Quinn people who are
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: not good at playing with Leah at all and I think that Joseph is so far doing the best job of it
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_02]: still a bit dangerous still a bit tricky but definitely possible MJ is even trickier because I think MJ just
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like doesn't really like Joseph much as you said like Joseph is somebody who is willing to talk with
[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_02]: her and talk game with her but she's like MJ is very much like man I really I wish people would
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_02]: talk to me I'm so alone in this game I just anybody could talk to me except for you don't talk
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_02]: to me except for you Joseph every time you talk to me I'm mad about it well I don't blame her
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: she's like how do you form the collective Joseph's like well I was thinking whoever's not close to
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt and you I wanted to break it and it's not a good foundation for this relationship so like
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't blame her but also like if you're Joseph I don't think you got to worry about these people
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker kind of has like his his grasp on them a lot better than he does to chemo so like again
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: can he just thank even further on his connection with Tucker to work with these people his problem is
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_02]: if Tucker goes he's stranded yeah not great now Tucker has a plan for him he says listen if I
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: if I go if I get taken out you can you can fall back to Quinn and ride to the end with him and
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: this is it's a very strange thing and I think it only exists because I do feel like and we talked
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: about this before but I do feel like Tucker doesn't love being there and is a lot like more
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: willing to consider like yeah I might just leave you know soon or later yeah if the house flips
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: on him this week and cam goes he can't play HOH I think we're going to have a lot of Tucker wants to
[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: quit all week and he won't quit because that doesn't happen to him but there'll be a lot of
[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: eventual downfall is just not going to be as satisfying as we think it'll be the only way we get like a
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: satisfying he's very upset downfall is if it's like first member of jury if he's like locked there I
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: think he would like rather be in that it's like Siri he read it ready to fail he will like
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_01]: can he said he was gonna it reminds me a lot of Siri we're like Siri was ready to go before jury
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: after the Jared flat everything and the second jury starts it's like well I'm stuck here anyways
[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_01]: let's do it if Tucker truly thinks he could leave jury maybe I won't get a guess yeah yeah
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: we did learn that he he did apparently want to quit tried to quit earlier in the game
[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: they were sort of able to sort of mass that we kind of knew but you know I think that part of
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: and and so he's able to say things like yeah if I leave just work with Quinn even though I hate
[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn like whatever I want you to succeed. Joseph also been playing in Tucker's face about that
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: we're like clearly Tucker and Quinn are targeting each other Tucker knows it and Joseph is like
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Quinn will be targeting you and my dream final seven or eight is all our allies plus Quinn
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and I want to work with Quinn and you should take the Quinn off the block and for me as Tucker would be
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: massive red flags but maybe Tucker is just like well you know in the event I'm evicted
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_02]: is it a great plan for you Joseph yeah I mean Tucker told Ruby and that he thinks Joseph has a
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: final two with Quinn so I think he does think that Joseph has a final two with Quinn and I think
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and I do think that in part Tim saying this was sort of like
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_02]: confirming to himself like Joseph yeah just work with Quinn if I leave right
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: so you know we'll see but yes Joseph says ideally we get to eight with six avenue plus
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn and Leo which is the most blatantly obvious thing but hey if Tucker is willing to
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: to work with him on it then then he's willing to work with him on it. Tucker also let's
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph know that like and this is something that Joseph needs to know sort of maybe not
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_02]: something specific with the general vibe which is that like the people kind of make fun of you
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: sometimes they're making fun of the way you run and stuff like that like Joseph kind of needs to
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_02]: know that people aren't really viving with him but the way that Tucker did it was a little
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: little thing. Yeah Tucker's like just so you know you don't have five jury votes locked in.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Right you it is very funny like I love self deprecation at the house I used it a lot and then
[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: it crosses a line and then you're like well it's still funny like obviously it's funny I love what
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: people make jokes about expense but like I think a little bit tired no and I'm going to
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_01]: think that was Joseph's reaction of like his feelings are a little bit hurt and I think I would
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: be surprised here and if today he goes back to his strategy of sulking in a corner to make everyone
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: else feel bad. Yeah yeah all right well MJ is going to continue to talk to people as we mentioned
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: she talks to Joseph but it doesn't seem to go that well she then also talks to T-core they talk
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: about who to trust again. MJ's just telling people I trust Tucker the most and that's certainly
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_02]: not what T-core wants to hear maybe it's what MJ thinks T-core wants to hear but it definitely not
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and they start talking about like who to vote out and MJ has for usual still just wants to vote
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: with the house like whatever people want I'm down with and so T-core is kind of like well maybe
[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: we're still deciding. I'm very worried of T-core trying to spill anything to MJ because MJ will
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: run to Tucker I'm just like I'm alone wolf but I want to vote with the pack like that's what
[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to do. T-core has got to be very careful because I thought the landmine this whole week was
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: for Pena they're going to try to get Rabino last minute Rabino is going to go to Tucker MJ's not even
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: a landmine like that is above ground like they know that's a trap and they still might use it.
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Literally says this is a trap so we'll see we'll see about that
[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_02]: there's some more conversation though Angela is still in the house she's still doing her own
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_02]: thing she had a conversation with Brooklyn but she still wants Brooklyn out for sure. Angela very
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: much like just quietly existing in her newfound position in an alliance and not blowing it up
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_01]: which has an improvement. She has to be talked out of it every now and then though
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: someone has a conversation and she starts spiraling like why are they lying to me I don't believe
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: anything they're saying and someone has to go to her and be like they're not lying Angela it's cool
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and I really like not to parade the stock watch right where is her winged equity that's my whole
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: problem with it. That's what I was saying so much long-term short-term security but I'm trying to think
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: of everyone else's winged equity and it's sitting next to Angela at the end but look from where she
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_02]: was a few weeks ago what a life for Angela. Exactly now she has a conversation with Leah which
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: helped illustrate where Leah seems to stand with the vote which is that of course Angela
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_02]: still wants Brooklyn gone her competition. Angela says with Brooklyn gone Chelsea will fall apart
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and Leah says I don't think so I think it's the opposite I think if Brooklyn is gone Chelsea's going
[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_02]: be able to like weasel her way back in and and that's me speaks volumes. Leah is still very upset
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: with Chelsea and to an extent Brooklyn for them being the ones to in her mind have told
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: when that she was manipulating when by flirting with him and actually wasn't his friend and didn't
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like him very much. They had another conversation about it today and when I was like I'm so glad
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: we talked about it because it would have really been what really hurt and she's like exactly I
[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: would never have done that. And so she's still very much anti them and it seems unlikely that they
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_02]: would that she would kind of turn around on that so you know while I do think it's possible like
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_02]: you never know where MJ might go though she probably will do whatever Tucker wants but if Tucker
[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't think to ask her in the same way that Pentagon didn't think to ask her you never know where
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_02]: my go it does feel like Leah is probably pretty set against Brooklyn or Chelsea at this point
[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah it's funny we haven't mentioned cams name like a single time maybe once in his conversation
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: with Joseph but when you think of cam you have to think of all as fictitious theoretical relationships
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and like Leah should be very incentivized to keep cam alongside of getting rid of Brooklyn and
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea because of their whole whatever they are but if you're like Leah is more so just like
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't say out for blood but she is just upset with Chelsea and Brooklyn and I'm well well
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_01]: well say it's probably frustrating for us on the outside seeing Leah just lied a quinn about what
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: she's been saying I do think good on her she's completely convinced him. Well look that's what
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: you got to do it's big brother like when you're going to do it mid it but I do think she's going
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to do it a lot less now because I mean she's really done in the first lesson. She's not even lying
[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: just to the audience or to the house guy she's kind of lying to the audience too and I don't think
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: she likes the whole idea of people seeing her talk behind other people's backs oh so secretly
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this all has kind of worked out for the better for everybody except for Brooklyn and Chelsea.
[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah I agree I think you're right I think that like I think that she's not only upset
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_02]: about the perception in the house but she's upset about the perception in reality and that's
[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: probably why she's constantly monologuing about how she never talks bad about people behind
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_02]: their backs even though I'm starting now exactly but that's that is my identity now and so
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_02]: that is how it always has been. So I when does have a conversation with Kimo they talk about Joseph
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and how he is super close with Tucker I mentioned this the other day that when I believe has
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_02]: discovered that Tucker or that Joseph is likely the one that outed his final dude Brooklyn
[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: to Tucker who then tricked him into thinking it was Brooklyn. So this is kind of like a twofold thing
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: where not only did Joseph reveal information to Tucker that he had confided in Joseph but
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker was then able to use that information to really make when looked like the fool
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and thinking that Brooklyn outed it instead. And so I've been wondering does Kwin actually think
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: this feel this and his conversation with Kimo who is also suspicious of Joseph right now
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of confirmed to me that I do think he is he's still not like fully acknowledging it but
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_02]: like he definitely is suspicious of Joseph and especially Joseph relationship with Tucker.
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's part of the study out to me he was very almost like felt like more of the energy was
[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: directed towards Tucker than Joseph because he's like why are all of my allies? Parker sick of
[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_01]: ants now and it was like very frustrating to him. The problem with Kwin is he can't be picky but
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: he doesn't have options like Joseph has to be an option it's his only path and truly Joseph
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: wants to work with Kwin I think him kind of Joseph playing Kwin in this way. It didn't like
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_01]: it hurt him so far as Kwin is not going to trust Joseph anymore. Outside of that it's probably
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_01]: fine but I think Kwin knows he's not in a position to hold grudges at this point so I don't
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_01]: expect him to confront Joseph today or anything like that. Yeah I agree.
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, Kwin does talk to the cameras he does recognize by the way we even talked about how Joseph
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: just like took over Kwin's position which is a very funny storyline because like we clocked it
[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: very early I was like I think Joseph just wants to be in what wins but and then it turned out
[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_02]: to be even more true than we thought where it's even Leah like even T. Kwer and Kima and Kwin is
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph is just doing what I was doing but better he's playing my game better than I play.
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's so funny that if Joseph had Kwin's social tools,
[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Kwin had Joseph's social or strategic restraint like they would be a great they would not be a great
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_02]: duo it would be great is a single entity. Yeah combine them take like combine their strengths and
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: remove their faults and they're really good player. So he also talks to the cameras he recognizes
[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and this is the thing too about Kwin is that like you know he often realizes what he has done wrong
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: he just still does wrong things and then in then afterwards it's like yep that was a mistake
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_02]: he'd probably be a great analyst. I look okay he's a great talker I think ever knows
[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_01]: he's gonna be doing stuff like this but I think a lot of people are finding Kwin so much more
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_01]: endearing now that he's in a position he's the underdog he doesn't have any power he's not getting
[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: any information and shockingly he's still the same person you know like I never thought he was playing
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: a character to the camera as he just fully is a character it's very clear in him talking to
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: anyone in the house but now he's playing from a totally different position and I think it's
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: really good for him overall like just run a human level like a Kwin dominating a season is not
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: a great reception to Kwin. Like Kwin needs to be fighting for his life winning videos trying to
[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: pull big moves from the bottom I don't know if it'll be capable of doing it but I do like
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_02]: how self-aware he is in his camp dogs. He's recognized he's like I think I'd probably expose the
[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_02]: tent to go on a bit early there I think that I may be messed up and he says outright I don't think
[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I can really trust Joseph but maybe if I'm able to get Tucker out of the game I can get him back
[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_02]: so I mentioned this yesterday I don't think it's a surprise to anyone but when Kwin was saying
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_02]: there's no way I'm gonna go after Tucker now I said I don't believe him nobody should
[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker doesn't weirdly a bunch of other people seem to do in the house but confirmation he is
[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was good work by Kwin and he sold it very well the idea of saving me off the
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: block was so nice was it mama's birthday like he had like a lot of like emotional elements to
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: make his point I think Tucker is just so steadfast and Tekwinn which he should be so he just doesn't buy it
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and it's again and it's you know in comparing Tucker in comparing Joseph and Kwin
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_02]: because Rubina's gonna do some of that later there is such a stark difference between the emotional
[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: component of their games where like there's no way that Joseph could have sold that in the
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: same way like Joseph did you imagine Joseph trying to be like you saved me on my mom's birthday
[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I will never go after you he tries he really does try he's like yeah Cam and thank you so much for
[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_01]: talking to me like I you know just does nothing like he again it reminds me of myself a little bit
[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: like he knows what he's supposed to do but the execution it's really hard if that's not you yeah
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: so so we um like there was even a moment where like when went out and said goodnight
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_02]: with Rubina talking to Tekwinn Kima and Rubina was like see Kwin Joseph would never do that
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: like Kwin so much better yeah yes um so uh D-Core is gonna talk to Kima and man can I just say
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: a lack of respect for sleeping people yesterday between between Tucker trying to take a nap
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: with MJ and Leah and it's especially like Tucker has had trouble sleeping to the point that
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Big Brother is just letting him nap uh and yet we're gonna continue to hang out in his room
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and and talk while he's there come on guys and it's like Kima is a have not he's struggling
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_02]: D-Core is gonna come and wake him up so they can have their nightly chats
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_02]: like you can't just have one night you can't just let him sleep oh my god I would I would I do
[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_01]: not like it when people wake me up after being in the house it's a very empowering feeling to see
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: people talk and then just turn off the laptop and go to bed it's a it's a it's a powerful feeling
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't think many people can really um yeah I um if if if my ally woke me up
[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: in the middle of the night and it wasn't like a leftover as a forming emergency situation
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure I would turn on them immediately what I will say it's a very it's actually
[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_01]: like there is a game element to it that's very kind of wonky so the more you stay up late at night
[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_01]: the more you get to have those private conversations right there's less people awake
[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_01]: MOTC Cork can talk with our people being suspicious of them even though everyone already knows they
[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: but what that leads to is that means you always get called into the DR super light at night
[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: so now you don't really have the option of going to bed early because they have their set schedule
[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_01]: as far as I know we're not pretty to find the scenes just being there
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and then you kind of get stuck in the I have to stay up late every single night because that's when
[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I do DRs and they're gonna wake you up if you go to bed so like not to defend you know
[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_01]: anti sleepers to quarantine though but I think they've kind of made their bed and now I
[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: ironically they have to sleep in it we're not yeah so they talk and
[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Kemos a little upset because Tucker and have were checked in on him today
[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like you know we check in with each other all the time okay okay doesn't check in with us
[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_01]: not close too busy being monologue to by Leanne McKenzie exactly he's spending too much time with
[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Leanne McKenzie they want to talk about like what would it actually look like to flip this house
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to keep Brooklyn and Chelsea keeping both because again if they keep Brooklyn it's great
[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: she's already Chelsea's already drifting away from Brooklyn Brooklyn is targeting Tucker
[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: when not a lot of other people are willing to it might be worth it can we do this do we have the
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_02]: what would the numbers be and it's it's sound and very similar to to the conversations last week
[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that were that were happening it around this time so let me know you think Terran my instinct is
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a trap this whole thing is a bad idea it's gonna blow up on them a rapida is not a reliable
[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: enough vote against Tucker and obviously I'm Jan Lee are not even options that's my instinct it's a
[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: trap don't do it but if you're going to do it I think they need to do the A.I.R.E. strategy because that
[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: doesn't give a Rabina time to go to Tucker and to expose it in their cuddle sessions at night
[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly kind of agree they already have Rabina kind of where they want her
[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and like even players like MJ like what they don't want to do is so okay there are obviously two
[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and the easiest and most conventional option is just convince Tucker to do what they want if
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker's on board they don't have to flip it's all fine hand they convince Tucker at this point
[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: seems pretty unlikely so with that in mind if they did want to actually make something happen
[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm not convinced that they should necessarily in this in this case but if they did
[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think the most effective method is don't let Tucker know that you're thinking about this don't
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: give him the opportunity to start campaigning Tucker thinks it's all locked in he doesn't need
[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to do anything he doesn't need to push Leah and MJ he doesn't need to make sure that hey Quinn
[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: you'd better be voting with me he's not gonna be talking to Rabina and being like Rabina you
[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_02]: wouldn't vote against what I want would you without Tucker doing all of that it's much more
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_02]: possible to like just hold Rabina and be like last second like hey remember what we talked about
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Rabina already wants Chelsea to stay it wouldn't be too far a cry to get her to maybe vote for
[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Brooklyn to stay also might be a little tricky and so if you if you try to pull this off last minute
[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: you again you could pull MJ and be like hey this is where we're going last minute she doesn't
[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: have even a chance to check in with Tucker about it we've seen her make last minute voting decisions
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_02]: in the past yeah and I think you can definitely pull Quinn I think he's perfectly happy to vote
[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_02]: against what Tucker wants regardless and so I think it's possible to make it happen should they
[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: is it worth it that's another question if you're gonna take the shot against Tucker indirectly
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: it makes sense to do it when he can't be at your age next week and like his only allies if you're
[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_01]: radically would like have his back I guess it'd be Joseph and Angela directly I'm Jayne Lee I might
[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_01]: even be in on this flip so like it's not the worst time to do it it is to risk he because what
[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_01]: of the odds Tucker goes next week probably not high with all these competitions and also like
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_01]: because of how past of this house is I don't think they need to convince MJ and Leo of anything
[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they can walk over to that middle bedroom and say camp camp camp camp camp camp camp and they're
[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_01]: going to hear it and just walk into the diroom and vote that way and Joseph will have read some
[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_01]: body language and vote that way so like the votes will snow about very quickly I don't anticipate
[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: being like a five four if they try to get this done yeah I mean I think it will depend
[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_02]: though on like how much Tucker is able to see in the moment because I do think again as soon as
[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker catches on I think he starts pushing back and I think that Tucker saying last minute don't
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_02]: you dare is a lot more has a lot more weight to it so it's very much in my eyes like
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: can you prevent Tucker from even realizing it's happening and so in the hallway in the DR hallway
[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: that's when you flip Rebina maybe so they do talk to Rebina and Rebina Grace she wants to keep
[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea as well over camp so like she's on board but Rebina wants to talk to Tucker about
[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's where it's like you know in Tico and Kimo's mind's like oh maybe she can convince Tucker
[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: the reality is probably a little more likely that it's like oh well Tucker's gonna talk for a
[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and so you know it could theoretically go either way but like if Tucker talks Rebina down
[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and they don't have Rebina the flip dives the flip is dead Rebina said they fit together
[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like puzzle pieces I've used that line it's over the flip is dead you need someone other than Rebina
[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_02]: what is that what is it like a puzzle piece it just like she's just like is it a height thing
[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_01]: is it I mean usually puzzle pieces are similar in size there's not the case with I'm just thinking
[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_02]: of like like is it is it is it because there's is it a spooning thing or is it a different kind
[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: is it like an interlocking facing each other puzzle I'm really glad you asked Terran
[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_01]: um no they cut the feeds which you know I'm sure this was almost like an ode to you Terran
[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: they're like we know what you had to deal with last year is here we're gonna quickly give you
[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_02]: a Tico conversation instead something tells me Tucker and Rebina are not talking mad game
[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_02]: in the middle of there cuddling section thank you my period
[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_02]: um so uh Rebina says she does really want to work with Chelsea and Quinn those are the
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_02]: people that she really like Rebina is actually very pro Quinn and as I talked about it's like
[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_02]: when Quinn came in she's like she's great um and so uh so Rebina's down to to keep Quinn
[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_02]: but also down to keep Chelsea in this moment at least um and she wants to talk to Tucker
[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_02]: about Joseph again she wants to really try and like surprise him in a vulnerable moment with a
[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_02]: question to see if like he she can really catch him about the final two with Joseph um but also
[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_02]: about like Henry maybe keep Chelsea um and so Rebina this is Rebina saying it so I expected
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: actually might happen this conversation so uh that's definitely something to look out for today
[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: will Rebina talk to Tucker about keeping Chelsea and how quickly will this get blamed on Tico
[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and Timo uh in that conversation and we were somewhat critical of Chelsea just saying oh
[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and we're a bit tougher because it seems a little bit transparent
[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: this all of a sudden is like a real option right because she has been putting up the facade
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: of wanting to keep Tucker so like if you're doing the Brooklyn strategy this is dead on our
[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_02]: rival instead of just probably dead on our right yes and that's what that's and you know like I
[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_02]: said like conventional strategy is this is the correct thing it's just Tico or Enquimo
[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_02]: in particular wanting to hear something different um all right so uh that's basically what I've
[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_01]: got for anything else you wanted to bring up. Piste Quarro Quimo like 3 a.m. 4 a.m. conversations
[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I've come to peace with not watching them and just getting the updates later because I know
[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_01]: what they're gonna say I like what they're saying but when I'm no idea if it happens till
[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_01]: live show which CBS has to cut them an extra check because they're the only ones making this
[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: AI arena twist really happen. Uh and I'm not I'm not even kidding they did say the words last
[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: night we need to talk to Quarro. So tomorrow 11 a.m. you stirred. I'll be back uh I'll be live tonight
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_02]: on Twitch of course twitch.tv slash Darren Armstrong I'll be hanging out watching the episode
[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_02]: with all of you uh and then afterward we'll be live on the podcast to talk it all through uh and
[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_02]: tomorrow morning 11 a.m. Eastern I will be back to update you on Tico or Enquimo talking to Quyen
[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it's gonna happen um and uh and of course Rubina talking to Tucker. Meese sneezing um and so
[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_02]: tune in for that we'll see if there's a potential flip in the works uh we'll see if anything happens there
[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the AI arena uh still likely determining the outcome of this eviction as of right now similar to last week
[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_02]: literally all three of them could be evicted in each circumstance so uh uh
[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: station for all that um and at the meantime check out the taste makers check out some other
[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: fun stuff we have going on here over at rhp quarry what are you up to. Twitch.tv slash quarry
[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_01]: work in mergard a lot of big brother stuff might watch the challenge today is the uh the second episode
[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_01]: of that a patreon.com slash americory we should have the privilege of interviewing a pho lisha
[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_01]: not really interviewing more just chatting I can say with great happiness Aaron she does now finally
[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_01]: know the Jared or at it app around sugar bits it is confirmed she is fully aware and uh the final
[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_01]: thing I have to announce is uh american iron doing a watch party in Nashville September 5th um it might
[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_01]: get double eviction for all we know two Thursdays from now uh but yeah we're gonna be posting
[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_01]: the RSVP and all that stuff later so if you're in the area check that out very fun all right well
[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that is what we have for you then today thank you all so much for joining us and I will see all of you
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_02]: next time