Today, Taran and Cory Wurtenberger recap the live feeds from day 57 of Big Brother 26.[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Every morning Taran Armstrong, Tarkvick brother looking at the stuff from yesterday
[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_02]: All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from FEO to HOH
[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Every single season you know he is the reason You know what's happening Rob said that he could do it
[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow he will do it again
[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our Live Feed Update for September 11th
[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your Armstrong and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday
[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The Big Brother 26 Live Feed was Day 57 in the house
[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a slower day overall I would say
[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Not too much going on but we're still gonna talk through it all and with me to talk through it all
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Cory, I didn't worry
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Beech it Quinn
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Look so far we'll see
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_00]: As someone who was on the block ran a failed campaign tried to start campaigning on Wednesday
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of hard to watch what's going on with Quinn
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of also funny to watch what's going on with Quinn and he still has time
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So while today was slow maybe things will ramp up today
[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's basically where we're at of course with Chelsea as the HOH she nominated Angela and Kimo
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ won the veto they decided to backdoor win
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn now on the block we talked yesterday about the votes because there are six votes total
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Three to tie four to just win the day here
[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn theoretically has Leah and the night before on day 56 she talked to Angela
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And Angela agreed to vote to keep Quinn if that's what Leah wanted and Quinn was willing to promise Angela he wouldn't put her up
[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's two votes
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn had convinced MJ at one point during that day
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea convinced her back but that was theoretically three votes
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea said to the cameras I wouldn't be mad if Quinn stayed
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Which meant that maybe she wouldn't push too hard
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was seeming like the pieces were maybe there to get something working
[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And Leah tried to campaign to MJ late into the night last night telling her
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Please do not tell Chelsea this don't tell anybody this
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But Angela is willing to vote to keep Quinn and I think we need Quinn in this game
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that you should be working so closely with Chelsea essentially
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And really went hard on a pitch for MJ against Chelsea for Quinn
[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think when you ever are put in a position where you have to like make the other person swear to you ten times over
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That they don't rat you out because they've done it all game
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You're already in a losing position. You're going to be ratted out
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So like I think Leah and Mackenzie kind of reminds me of America and blew it away
[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We're like I think they both deep down kind of wanted to work together for a long time
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But they keep writing each other out and it's just not going to happen
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's time for both of them to just throw in the towel and with the events of this day
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Mackenzie's already thrown in that towel
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's not great to watch
[00:03:52] Yeah
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's where we left off
[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We start the day here on day 57
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn is going to dress up or dress down I should say
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And go around hand handling for votes
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Any spare votes anybody spare votes anyone
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a good bit. It's a fun bit
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Clearly referencing one of his favorite players Jace from Big Brother 5
[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Who went around with a cardboard piece of cardboard
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You know saying like anyone want to join my alliance
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's he's kind of doing that throughout the day
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Doing his little hand handling bit
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love it. I thought it was very funny
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I will say the dressing up for a campaign is a thing I know well it ever works
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a really bad I think
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_00]: When you feel like you're seriously in a position to campaign and get votes
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not thinking about the bit
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You're thinking about how am I going to get these votes
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But once you think it's a little bit more far fetched
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like all right let's have a good time of it
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: If it's my last few days in the house
[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have a good memorable last few days
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it definitely feels like more of a
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: How can I go out with as much of a bang as possible
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: More so than like I really think this is going to work
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So with Kimo flipping his vote
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Or Mackenzie flipping her vote at Kimo's speech
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the emotional appeal is the way to go
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah maybe the emotional appeal I don't know if a hand handling bit is quite
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe with a different delivery
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what Quinn is up to for the most part
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: In the meantime there is pretty much the biggest
[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And most impactful conversation of the day happens relatively quickly
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ is going to go to Chelsea and wouldn't you know it
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Tell her all about the conversation she had with Lee before
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And she says yeah apparently Angela's down to keep Quinn
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like what I can't believe Angela's so locked in with Leah
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And MJ's like yeah she's also pretty much just pushing me to like turn on you
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like oh man can you believe it
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: If you are ever in a position where you are saying to
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: An ally
[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not ever but like I would say probably
[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: 75% of the time if you're telling an ally
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah man they were really trying to convince me to turn on you because like
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You're a mastermind and like you're going to beat everyone
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But don't worry I don't believe it
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're ever telling somebody that genuinely at least 75% of the time
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That means you're playing a losing game
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Huh I don't know if I
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay I agree with it insofar as
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: If you believe what you're saying
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah yeah if you mean it
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Right because I think there were a lot of moments where like
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: In my season I had to tell like oh is he three they think you're the mastermind
[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was kind of aware of it but you kind of have to like kiss their
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what's for a while I don't think that's really what MJ's doing
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think MJ thinks them as a trio might be the mastermind or them as a duo even her and Chelsea
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But maybe look I think everybody who does say this to the theoretical mastermind of the season
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Thinks they're in the 25 or 20%
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly so
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I wanted to say every time
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think that most like pretty much every time somebody is doing it
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: They think that they are the ones that are exempted from the rule
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But like just I mean if you find yourself in this position
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It means you're not in a good position for the most
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It means that somebody else is running the game and you are at best
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Appeasing them in this moment which is what you were in a position to do
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But at worst you are just genuinely
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: In a spot where you probably should be turning on
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean I love this move from Mackenzie if it's before the veto meeting
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Now that it's after the veto meeting and Noms are locked
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I think now is the time for Mackenzie to actually play a little bit
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Try to get in the middle of these two duos
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Can you really get in the middle when one side of it is Leah and Angelo though
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a little bit testy
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I ultimately I think
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how few fields to have Taryn
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Mackenzie is trying to lock herself in this three with Cam and Chelsea
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They're probably the three strongest competitors left
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: If her plan is Bowie Jane trio mafia to the end
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: She might just get there and the her and cambo it's kind of interesting
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously we're looking very far ahead but like
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't hate her perspective of run it down with the trio as much as I do
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe from like a chemo or a rapida
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean I think what I
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I think what I would say about that is that like if you are planning to run
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: This trio down to the end if that really is your goal
[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You even more shouldn't be telling Chelsea all of your individual secrets
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And like giving up your individual game and relationships
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Because what you're doing is just handing away votes
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like jury votes like like oh yeah
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I promise I'm not playing an individual game everyone
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like definitely don't think I did anything separate from Chelsea
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Is kind of like the the message you're broadcasting
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I could see that I do wonder if MJ is just a little bit paralyzed by fear of
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, she's in control anything I don't wrap back to her is going to get back to her some way
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll be kicked out of the cool kids group
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, I don't think a very effective way to play the game
[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially it's a very it's a very scared way to play the game
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's an effective way to get to the end winning the game is a whole different story
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is what MJ says and then you know the thing is that so she rats Leah out
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But also recognizes that Leah is good for her game because Leah wants to work with her and just tried to work with her
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And so she also then says so now that I've told you that Angela's locked in with Leah and that Leah is trying to get me to turn on you
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I really think we should keep Leah around because I think she'll work with us when Angela's gone
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem you could do you could either one you could say let's keep Leah or Leah is targeting you Chelsea can't do both
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, so of course Chelsea's like no I don't think I don't think so I think actually Angela is probably better for our game
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like I'm MJ's like ah damn yeah maybe
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and it's not like MJ had to be convinced super hard I think MJ was very down to here you know either perspective from Chelsea
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But of course from MJ's point of view all of this is moot in the short term because the trio is still the primary target from her perspective
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That the very first thing they need to do is take that shot at the trio
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that Chelsea is in on this as well to some degree though she's getting increasingly worried with Leah especially with what MJ is telling her
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know she's gone back and forth and I still don't know exactly what's
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: What she feels because she says different things to people and then different things to the cameras and it feels more genuine when she's talking to people sometimes than it does to the cameras but who knows
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Either way we do know that she's mentioned multiple times that she really wants Cam or MJ to win the next H2H because she really wants one of the trio to leave before
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Two weeks from now when they control the vote
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But she's also now very concerned about Leah so I think at this point she's probably fine with either direction but we will end up seeing what happens I'm sure
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam ends up joining them they fill him in on the Leah situation and how Angela is going to vote with Leah and they all agree collectively haha there's no way we're voting to keep Quinn
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They think they'll get those these votes from us but they will not because Quinn is leaving
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Cam is the most interesting piece of this whole week. I think we're both in agreeance probably the right move for Chelsea to get rid of Quinn probably the wrong move of MJ to get rid of Quinn
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Cam I can see arguments for either path really I think getting rid of Quinn makes Cam probably the strongest competitor at this point him or MJ at least
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's like a huge boot at this point in the game but obviously he still enjoys the same benefits as Mackenzie of keeping Quinn because Quinn is going to target the trio so like I think he is the one person who really
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I can see either path based on recent precedent with Big Brother Seasons I think he's going the right direction actually
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: In just like banking on his compability which he hasn't really proven yet but I'm just assuming
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just curious what you think do you think for him the right move is keep Quinn still
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay so I can see the argument for getting rid of because in the this is the argument that he gave right like the one that MJ gave was he's not trustworthy enough and you know it's better for the team
[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't agree with MJ's logic. Cam's logic has been well it's it's in part like getting you back to the Pentagon and Cedric
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But the other part of it was and always has been Quinn is the next biggest physical threat with Quinn gone I think MJ and I just run the table with physical competition
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's a fairly fair way to look at it now this season is Cam is not a super fan he doesn't recognize that this season is slightly different than last season so far and that the competitions might be different
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm sure he knows that Jag ran the table last season in you know a house where there weren't a lot of other physical competitors to stop him and so I'm sure he's looking at that and feeling like there's a decent chance that we could make that happen
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that he's still right even with the changes to the competitions this season there's still a good chance that they haven't changed them enough to counteract the two or maybe even three with Chelsea biggest physical threats in the game all being on the same team all competing
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They might just run the table. The problem for Cam with that we talked about on the round table last night is that like he is potentially going to be in this very advantageous position, but what does he do with it, what is his plan, because if his plan is to go to the end with T
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Corp and Chelsea that's really bad for him I think so you know if his plan was I want to go to the end with MJ cut Chelsea and then bring Angela or chemo or Rubina and you know get to the end with one of them, or maybe MJ if I need to, then I'd be like okay this is a very viable path.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I could still see the Quinn path but this is also a very valuable path. The fact that he seems to want to go into a dead end is part of what makes me feel like this is not as good a move for him. However, I will add a caveat to that one that I'm still going back and forth on that five or six for camp from last night I feel like I should have gone with six.
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's a conversation between Quinn and Leah that I want to talk about and I don't like to speculate too much on jury votes because as Corey knows you can say one thing in the house and then completely change your mind in the jury house and then we're thinking one thing all season long and then it turns out to be another thing.
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So take it all with a grain of salt but but there is a conversation between Quinn and Leah that indicates that Cam might not be so much strong dead against Chelsea as we made might have thought.
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think when it comes to the again back to keeping Quinn or not keeping Quinn.
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The idea of not keeping Quinn falls apart when you think about how he actually wants to play out as end game.
[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But if he keeps Quinn I still think he has the same goal for the end game and it just comes down to can someone like Quinn or Leah or someone get rid of the mistake that cam's going to make like get rid of Chelsea or get rid of a T course so like even if he keeps Quinn.
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that solves that problem.
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It almost like gives a slight possibility that problem solves itself which is good.
[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So like the way I see it is if cam can guarantee himself power for a week or two.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather be in that position where hopefully he can come to the right conclusion as opposed to hoping someone else comes to a conclusion that let's be real cam would be upset about.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean yeah you're right in terms of like him reaching his goal of getting to the end with.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt Moore and Chelsea getting rid of cam or getting rid of Quinn is theoretically the right move it's just that that goal is kind of wrong.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We think for his game at least so you know yeah I could see that too yeah I mean like keeping Quinn around.
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he needs to hope.
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that he could just straight up work with Quinn
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: for a little while.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And like if he was playing a game
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: where he was angling Quinn in a particular direction
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: or using him as a further shield,
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's a lot of benefit there.
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The biggest danger is Will, if you don't run the table
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and one of, you know, T-Corp, Kimo, Rubino win,
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and they decide to do the smart thing
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and take shot at you or MJ,
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you're very quickly learning
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: that things are looking much more dangerous.
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But we'll see.
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We will see.
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we did see the fish.
[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: There was some sort of thing that happened with the fish.
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anything about fish,
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: but there was some sort of thing that they did
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: for the fish.
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully they've taken better care of the fish.
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they trusted us having fish in our house.
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, this is new information to me.
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So Quinn talks to Leah.
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: This is sort of the big Quinn and Leah conversation.
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: When I tell you there's not a lot to talk about these,
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: this is the second of two major conversations
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: that I plan to talk about today.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn talks to Leah.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He wants to get her to socialize more.
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: She's been kind of isolating herself for the most part
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: ever since the nomination,
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: the renomination, I should say.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But she is not really down for it.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: She does not really want to socialize.
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She's very frustrated with Chelsea in particular
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: for throwing her under the bus
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and making up this whole story
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and blaming her for Chelsea's move.
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She feels excluded and villainized.
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah would never sit behind closed doors
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and say things that she wouldn't say to somebody's face.
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Never. That is not who she is.
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That is what they are, not her.
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And if I only watched this one life eat clip,
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd believe it.
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It's really crazy because I think and I thought for a while
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that it was Leah caring so much about perception
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: in the house.
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't want to be outside viewers to perceive her as one
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: way so she would talk herself up in these kind of ways.
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do think she believes it like she says it
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: with a lot of conviction how she's like a good person
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and she would never like if she has to do X, Y and Z
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: to win the game, she's comfortable losing.
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas like Leah could be the most cutthroat player
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: at the house or at least one of them.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think like the fans would be so quick
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: to rally behind her if she just like owned it a little bit.
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But but she doesn't want.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: She says essentially, yeah, at the end of the day,
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be a juror.
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We are in the jury phase.
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So they do this at their own peril.
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And as the conversation turns to more of, you know,
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn's position in the game and stuff,
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_01]: he also talks about how he's like apparently
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_01]: speeches can change people's minds in this house,
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: which is so dumb.
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I actually hope that it was a planned conspiracy
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're lying to me, but I don't think it was.
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is, you know, obviously bad for MJ,
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but this is perhaps the first time we're hearing something
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: from Quinn about like maybe Chelsea isn't as, you know,
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_01]: coordinated and methodical as as I would have hoped as a player.
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: If she genuinely did flip on a speech, then, you know,
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Quinn, who probably already was leaning more
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: T-core than Chelsea, I think probably even more
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: would lean T-core over Chelsea.
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the real question is with Leah,
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: especially being so frustrated with Chelsea on a personal level,
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: like the way that she's been treated in the game by Chelsea
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and the way that Chelsea has decided to operate this week
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: does seem like Chelsea has lost Leah's vote.
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Angela also not pleased with Chelsea
[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: with Leah's influence, plus, you know,
[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: the little bit of disappointment in her flipping on a speech.
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Could you see Quinn also vote not Chelsea?
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not anybody over Chelsea.
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But if Cam runs the table with competitions
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's sitting next to Chelsea in the end,
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: could you maybe see these three people voting for Cam over Chelsea?
[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It's possible at this point in a world where I thought it was impossible
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: the day before.
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's maybe possible that those three votes might go to Cam.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You still got to work a little hard to get that fourth vote.
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I still think Chelsea very, very much beats Cam in the end right now.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But like it starts to get a lot closer than I ever thought it would.
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I thought this conversation was interesting.
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it gets it gets dicey.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the simplest way to think about like a Cam Chelsea
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: final two situation where Cam wins is Cam is just better socially
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: or at least he's more consistent socially.
[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He never has these conversations where he kind of snaps at Leah
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: or snaps at Angela or any of that.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like ultimately, there's so many factors that come into a jury vote.
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But the biggest factor is who do I like the most?
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the entire season, I thought Matt was the better player than Jag.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And because I liked Jag more, I was very open to the information
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that I heard in jury of maybe Jag is the better player.
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So like if they all love Cam and then people start trickling
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: in to the jury talking highly of Cam, they might be more likely to be convinced.
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Ultimately, this is all like trying to rationalize a world
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: where Cam can be probably one of the top two jury threats.
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But what else are we going to do?
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: There's two conversations all done.
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I also thought it was interesting.
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah is a bit skeptical of MJ in this conversation.
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: She's worried that MJ is not working with her.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And Quinn is like, nah, I think she will.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she will want to work with you,
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: which is obviously like Leah already gave too much to MJ.
[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think she's now concerned because MJ basically didn't like check back in.
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: She spent a lot of the time with MJ or sorry, with Chelsea.
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think Leah was starting to realize like maybe I screwed up,
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: but Quinn is still trying to like reassure her like, no, I think MJ will want
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: to work with you, which is not the right thing to say, because it's not true.
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, as they pointed in the chat, there's lots of group activities
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_01]: going on still throughout the day, including some massaging that happens at night.
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn spends all this time talking to Leah, Chelsea and MJ are going to talk
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: some more. They can't believe Quinn is spending all this time with Leah.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, he's literally on the block and he's spending all of this time
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: with somebody who's isolating herself instead of campaigning
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_01]: to get the votes that he needs, which is kind of funny because they did
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: just say earlier in the day, there's no way they will ever vote for Quinn to stay.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But they would still like him to camp.
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a classic situation of.
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He has to campaign.
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: This is so dumb.
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He has to stop hanging out around Leah and if he starts campaigning
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: like, oh my God, he's tossing Leah under the bus.
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: What a horrible person.
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been there, Tara, and trust me,
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the idea of Quinn of waiting to campaign until Wednesday.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It does two things.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Number one, it is somewhat rationalizing for Quinn so he could just hang out.
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he believes in his mind he's drawing dead a little bit.
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And number two, I kind of get it because you flip everyone on Monday.
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That does nothing for you because it's going to flip back Tuesday and Wednesday.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So you almost like there's a certain timing that has to work for campaigning.
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the most effective campaign is like a slow burn throughout the week
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and eventually you win over the votes to your side.
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the way Quinn says, I'm going to have one big campaign day
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: on Wednesday. If it works, it works.
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: If it doesn't, it doesn't.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm satisfied no matter what.
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to spend the rest of my time in the big brother house soaking up everything.
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think for him, that means hanging out with Leah more than it is
[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: campaigning kind of pointlessly to Chelsea.
[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, especially in this house when a arena has been prevalent all season
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_01]: long and with the arena, they have been putting off the campaigns until
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: late. They have been putting off some discussion about the vote
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: until very late because you didn't have anything locked in.
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think the sort of schedule for the house is that a lot of these
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: conversations do happen on Wednesdays, Wednesday nights.
[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes a lot of them on Thursdays.
[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, I think following that pattern could certainly work
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: in this house and the culture of this house.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: However, it doesn't usually work in regular seasons of Big Brother.
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Primarily because when everything is locked in, the plan is set.
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: People start planning for the following week.
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And by the time you get to them, it's like.
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's too it's too like I've already like feeling good about next week.
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And like I've already made deals and talk to people and have like
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: like when this person wins, we want to do this.
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And with you here, everything changes after redo all of that work.
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm curious to see if there is if when finds anything
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: more effective with this last minute campaign in this season,
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: even though it's the old format now, they're so used to the new format
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: that there still might be some more effect.
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, makes his campaign.
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think his campaign in a lot of ways is pretty easy because he knows
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_00]: exactly who he has to pitch to and he knows exactly the pitch he has to make.
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He has to pitch against the trio and get these four votes.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: These is three in the tiebreaker, whatever he knows what he has to do.
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is some of the votes he has to get are the people who just backdoor
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_00]: at him. And if I'm Chelsea, I don't care what he says.
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I will never believe that Quinn's on my side because I Chelsea just
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: betrayed him. So it's really hard.
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of logic for why Quinn should stay.
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's really hard to just like adding Quinn for all
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: of his strategic decision making flaws.
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: His execution, I don't think is that terrible.
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He's pretty good at these one on one conversations, making people feel comfortable.
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's really hard to to give that pitch to this audience of Chelsea.
[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I still I feel like I said this yesterday,
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think that his best hope was to like quickly start
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: distancing himself from Leah to because what that does is it makes
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Lee, it makes Chelsea and MJ feel like it works.
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We separated Quinn from Leah now that we've I mean,
[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_01]: we already neutralized that threat.
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Do we even need to take Quinn out now?
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas having spent all this time with Leah,
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: even after they tried to blame Leah.
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And now there's this drama that like, you know,
[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah has mad at them for trying to blame her.
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And Quinn is clearly still talking with it.
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be harder for him to do what I think he needs to do to stay.
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is be like, listen, guys, maybe you're right.
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Leah is not the best thing for my game,
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: because I think that's the biggest thing holding them back from keeping it.
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I mean, I said it before, I'll say it again, very fitting
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that, you know, his desire to, you know, hang out with Leah
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and work with Leah is ultimately kind of his downfall here.
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's it's like he finally got what he
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: like all season long, he just really wanted to be Leah's best friend.
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And he finally got it.
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But at what cost?
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: His life in the Big Brother game.
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So, Tara, what do you make of like Leah's kind of like emotional breakdown?
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Just like the crying, like what do you think?
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Where do you think it comes from?
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I think a lot of people are saying, oh, my God,
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Leah really does like care for Quinn like that.
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think Leah likes Quinn at this point.
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they are good friends.
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But I kind of view it much more as Leah thinks
[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: she screwed everything up, taking Angela off the block
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and her two closest allies are going home.
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I very much took this to be her upset at
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the situation that she's in now, that she is not only her strategic
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: positioning has deteriorated, but her allies are leaving,
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: which is isolating for her again strategically,
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: but also socially, she is being isolated or she is at least isolating
[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: herself. You could argue one way or the other.
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: She argues one way or the other.
[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But like she is finding herself in this like social pariah situation
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: where she's kind of been in that spot before with MJ,
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: but she always had like MJ and she's still, you know,
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: there was still this veneer of like,
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: well, I'm still hanging out in the HOH room
[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and everyone's still friends.
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas now there's like genuine tension.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Chelsea does not like Leah and Leah does not like Chelsea
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and Chelsea is in power right now and has a lot of influence.
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of people don't like Leah.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people are spending time outside of that room
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that Leah is in talking about Leah and how she's isolating herself
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and how stupid that is.
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And what is she doing?
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_01]: She's not even on the block.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, where does she get off feeling this way?
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that that's a lot of social pressure.
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what she's feeling for the most.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she's like, you know, which is not like a dig on her.
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think she's like feeling super bad for Quinn at the moment.
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's just like feeling all of this.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Normal normal big brother pressure stuff that a lot of people go through.
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And and it's and it's hard to deal with.
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to get on my soapbox, Taryn, a little bit,
[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: because I think this was the only week of the season where like
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of felt a little bit of the big brother trauma somewhat
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: because I kind of expected is going to be hard watching back.
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I've had a great time so far.
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: This week was a little bit hard to watch,
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of from the perspective of Leah, mostly from Quinn, obviously,
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: because I kind of identify as Quinn.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He's the me of the season.
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You get put in a situation where you're blindsided.
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And the reason he's blindsided is truly for game reasons.
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think there's obviously the personal things being said about him
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: to try to justify those game reasons.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Same thing with me, certainly probably even more so.
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But you get put in the situation where the burden is on you to not make things
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: awkward, and it's really frustrating because you get betrayed.
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though I was going to betray them and Quinn was always willing
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: to cut Chelsea in them.
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like a big moral issue.
[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But then in these social settings, Quinn is walking out to the backyard
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_00]: to this group of five or six people, including like Tiki,
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Ticor, Kimo, Rupina, Chelsea, all them.
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And he has to be the one to be like, hey, guys,
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a and then like sit down and the conversation just like silences.
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's really hard because you're like, why am I the one with the burden
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: of reintegrating myself socially?
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm I'm not upset.
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You guys just think I'm going to be upset and that is like dictating
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_00]: your behavior.
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's very, very frustrating to watch.
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So what does he do instead?
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes and hermits up with Leah, which is exactly what I did with America.
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So like I totally get it.
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And their relationship is very different, but I think it's the same in terms of
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: it's the only person in the house Quinn feels comfortable with and feels
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: like he's not a burden to right now.
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So like I forced myself out there.
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I tried to have these conversations.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I fully expect Quinn to do the same thing today.
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But I 100 percent get it because it's really frustrating.
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And all of this talk of like, oh my God, Leah and Quinn, like,
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: what are they doing?
[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_00]: They need to get out there and socialize and strategize from these other players.
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want them to socialize and strategize with them.
[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just classic group think it took us a while to get there on this season.
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But right on time, we got there, Teran.
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We got there.
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, I think that AI arena was a big part of preventing some
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: of this stuff from happening because, you know, none of those people were
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: like on death row in the same way.
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: There was like the appeal process was still running, you know?
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So all right.
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, late into the night, I talked about the massaging.
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ does talk with Rubina and T-Core about how Leah told people that
[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: told her that people were looking at her and Cam like they were a thing,
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: even though they're just ugly and they have a long conversation
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: about like taking Quinn out and what they're doing moving forward.
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_01]: T-Core, Rubina and Kimo had been talking about, you know, getting to the final six
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: with this trio.
[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Should they actually do that?
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo is like, I don't think that's great for me at least.
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And T-Core is talking about wanting Leah on the block before she touches the block
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: so she can be the last person to touch the block,
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: which like T-Core is getting more and more bold about just like
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: practicing her final two speech with them and like having given them no
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, if her notes on it and like talking about like I want to be the last person
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_01]: not touch the block like, you know, it's getting more and more blatant.
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But but there's still I think some some wiggle room here.
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I really they've gone back and forth about should they actually target MJ cam?
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Should they actually target Leah Angela?
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not sure the bottom line is there's definitely not targeting Chelsea,
[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_01]: although they are recognizing that Chelsea is in a very good position right now.
[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of that going on, but it's it's kind of a lot of the same
[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_01]: stuff for T-Core, Ruben and Kimo.
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They talk a lot about what they want to maybe do
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and you just kind of have to wait and see what they actually do.
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, they're talking about Chelsea being a threat.
[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So in three to four business weeks, a plan will be developed at the final four.
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They will be in a position to cut her.
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: One kind of big question I have not that big.
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Is Kimo drawing dead because I really thought for so many weeks
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: he's drawing dead, it's over for Kimo.
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But when I'm hearing the three of them talk,
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not entirely convinced that Kimo is like not the best strategic buyer of the three.
[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think he is. Yeah.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he has the most knowledge about the game.
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the one.
[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I really feel like those the thing that kick started their entire game
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: was the flip on Cedric and he was the one that really pushed that.
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, his motivations might not have been great.
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The way that he pushed it on T-Core might not have been the most effective in the world,
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_01]: but it did happen.
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And and I do think that he has a decent strategic mind.
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the problem is that T-Core is just so much better socially
[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of like the relationships that she's managed to build at least.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And Kimo has very willingly taken a backseat socially
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and strategically, some degree.
[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, we talked about this last night,
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: like Kimo clearly a very good speech giver.
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And and, you know, I do think there are a couple of people that he could maybe beat.
[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the problem is like, does he take any of those people to the end?
[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Do any of those people take him to the end?
[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be trickier.
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if he's there with T-Core, I don't think it I think is just over.
[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_01]: If he's there with Rubina, maybe.
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But how does T-Core leave before him or Rubina?
[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's tough.
[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. So it's almost his best shot is being nominated and winning a veto.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And then one of his allies gets caught in this,
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: but he's just not someone you could reliably count on winning that veto
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_00]: because like he is the first of the trio to go
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: because I think all the women are more down to have like the five women
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: at the end or whatever the case may be.
[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not like Kimo has the relationships
[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_00]: to sustain himself over either Rubina or T-Core.
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So like if the trio is targeted, he's the guy.
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He needs that veto or he needs to figure something out very quickly.
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, because when when Tucker was in the game,
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: it felt like Kimo was playing two Tucker focused.
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, well, once Tucker leaves,
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really curious to see how Kimo plays.
[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But as soon as Tucker left, he became T-Core focused,
[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: which was even worse in terms of his own personal game.
[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think at the end of the day,
[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_01]: he's just like he's put himself in this supporting role
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and that that's that's a tough place to be if you want to win the game.
[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think he's kind of fine with that.
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think if T-Core is going to be cut at any point by the two of them,
[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: it'll be Rubina cutting T-Core at like the final three potentially,
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: even though they talk so much about how great it would be
[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: to have two women in the final two, which is the one reason I'm more hesitant about it.
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But it feels like Rubina is a little bit more
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: they're both aware of T-Core's threat,
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: but Rubina seems a little bit more concerned about it.
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Even if she's not verbalizing it, she's definitely verbalized
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: T-Core of all people.
[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So like again, like if we're saying T-Core's biggest danger
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: is potentially maybe getting cut at the final three by
[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe one of the two people who are going to lose to her,
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's doing pretty well.
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, that's pretty much it for the day here again,
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_01]: fairly slow one.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if things ramp up as Quinn attempts his bull on campaign.
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It is looking fairly dire, I think particularly because of Cam.
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that Cam is really like the big piece to have fall here.
[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_01]: If he's able to get Cam, I think he can get MJ.
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And with both of them, he should have the votes with or without Chelsea.
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think Chelsea would push back that hard if both Cam and MJ went at her
[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: with this idea, but the problem is getting both Cam and MJ
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: without Chelsea interrupting the flow of that.
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Because if only one, if just Cam wanted it and he went to both MJ and Chelsea,
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I think MJ Chelsea with MJ would shut Cam down and vice versa.
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So he would need to, I think, get both Cam and MJ
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and then the two of them talk to Chelsea.
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it might have.
[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's I think it's not convinced.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I think if he gets Cam and MJ, they both go to Chelsea and are convinced by Chelsea.
[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we'll see.
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, anything else, Corey, that you want to bring up for me?
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Just looking forward, backyard shut early, probably a physical comp.
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: We're at the final eight.
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_00]: This feels like rotating discs time.
[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That was that was our final eight.
[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just our veto.
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you got to like a Cam or a Bina, maybe even someone like Aliyah potentially.
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I just look at people who are good at endurance comps or good at endurance comps.
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So look at that wall.
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably going to be a similar field.
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm excited to watch it.
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. Quinn actually expects this as well.
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, unfortunately for Quinn, I think he probably wins this if he stays.
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think he is.
[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I would honestly, I would expect probably Cam
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: takes this one, maybe MJ.
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, they obviously both did pretty well on the wall.
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a lot of I mean, actually, I mean, like, yeah, I think like
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, grip is going to be important.
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Just general athleticism.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So.
[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's going to be hard to see anybody else win this one.
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's very weird though, Terran, like the skills that go into that
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: comp are not what you'd expect like Matt, the strongest guy probably from
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: the past two seasons.
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: He just had lower back issues and that comp, you have no lower back support.
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You just can't do it.
[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Bowie had motion sickness issues where you spin too much
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and you actually get dizzy.
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So, like.
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I think literally anybody who has like a, you know, decent amount of strength
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_00]: has a chance and I would literally put like even Rabina in that category.
[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He's in that category.
[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not as cut and dry as like who's the strongest person
[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: probably wins the wall.
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think.
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say Rubina probably has the best chance of outside of.
[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Ham MJ.
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Leah, maybe she had a rough time on the wall, but yeah.
[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what we have for you then today.
[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I'll be back tomorrow morning, 11 am Eastern to update
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and everything that does happen here today on the Big Brother 26 live feeds.
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll also be on Twitch tonight watching the episode should be a fun
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: episode with the OT have lasting one round with this backdoor of Quinn
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and potentially some Angela Giesling content who knows.
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And on the podcast tonight after the episode, we have Felicia joining us to talk about it.
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be fun here as well.
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Soon in for all of that.
[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: In the meantime, check out our coverage of the circle, which I believe
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: just dropped its first four episodes.
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So we've got some coverage of that out right now as well.
[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And what else?
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We got scripted content.
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: We got rings of power.
[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_01]: We got the taste makers.
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We had a very fun taste maker episode this week that I recorded with Josh.
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So check all of that out for you.
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you going on?
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I got some stuff, Twitch.tv slash Corey Wharton burger.
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably be live for the episode as well.
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Today, I'm doing my big survivor looking at the whole cast, making predictions thing.
[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, patreon.com slash AmeriCorey.
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We have our podcast we just posted.
[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_00]: We're interviewing Cedric soon.
[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We have our Big Brother 7 rewatch.
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of stuff in AmeriCorey land there.
[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that is what we have for you then here today.
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you all so much for joining us and I will see all of you next time.