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[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello everyone and good morning.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to our Live Feed Update for August 28th.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm your host Taran Armstrong and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_05]: on the Big Brother 26 Live Feeds.
[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_05]: It was day 43 in the house.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Just one day short of day 44, the wild day.
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see if there's another one coming up soon.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_05]: But we've got some stuff to talk about primarily just the house just running rampant with paranoia here
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_05]: in the Big Brother 26 house and with me to talk through it all.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_05]: How are you doing, Corey?
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: It's boys night.
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Boys night.
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Boys night. Let's go crazy.
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I just feel exactly.
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I just feel grateful they finally created a twist so inconsequential that they can show it to us on the feeds.
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they started showing the AI instigator and let me tell you, it's not in my notes.
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't plan to share much of what's on the page.
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_05]: You haven't been studying?
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I have not been studying the grocery list now.
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Get on it.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_05]: All right. Well, of course, here's what's happening.
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_05]: T-Corps, the HOH nominated Cam Mackenzie Tucker, Cam won the veto, used it on himself and T-Corps put Angela up on the block in Cam's place.
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a whole bunch of drama that happened in regards to that, but it honestly doesn't even matter at this point because this house just moves and it keeps moving and it doesn't stop moving.
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_05]: So with that in mind, Angela Mackenzie Tucker on the block, one of them is going to leave.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And really like things are just continuing to move that there's really not much more setup to talk about beyond that because it just kind of goes from there.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And so many of the conversations are like, I can't wait to do this on the live show.
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So basically all we can do, which has been basically every Tuesday, Wednesday update is like, we will see what happens.
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Here are the possibilities and then the AI arena invalidates 70% of them.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. And that's basically how we start the day is that, you know, Chelsea is still talking to Cam.
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Now something that's been happening is that Chelsea and Cam have been like trying now, which is nice.
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And they're working together partly in secret and trying to make their way into a power structure and take down the one that currently exists.
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_05]: They would love to take out Tucker this week, but they know that the votes are going to be a little bit tricky to gather.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_05]: They probably would need Quinn's vote. They correctly recognize that.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's too dangerous to actively try to gather those votes before they even know that Tucker is actually an option.
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And so there is mention of like, well, Chelsea says maybe we should just wait until after the AI arena and then see if we can gather up some last minute votes.
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I love the idea of Cam calling people in the room scrambling trying to pull these votes together. I have a theory on Cam.
[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yesterday he talked about, you know, I won the veto and I still was like only called into the DR one time this week.
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I think this active strategizing version of Cam that we're seeing is just trying to get more diaries.
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's gonna work. I hope.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. I mean, the diaries we have seen from Cam are the ones where he is talking strategy.
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_05]: So he probably is like, okay, I guess if I try more in the game, they'll start showing me on the show.
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And I just want to be very careful when we're like analyzing Cam's game because it looks good so far.
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know if we're holding it relative to big brother or relative to Cam of the past because right now what he's doing, it's blowing me away.
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like I've set my standards a little bit too low.
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. I mean, I think you also, you know, at this point, we just have to rate anybody that is very physically fit higher than most other people because that's how the game is played now.
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Physically fit and likable enough to give a jury vote. I think them like targeting Tucker is obviously the right move.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: The problem is I don't think they're like in a central enough house position to pull together this kind of flip last minute.
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if T-Corin chemo had that perception when they were flipping the votes a couple weeks back, but I don't like this plan.
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think especially when they're relying on Quinn as a swing vote.
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Quinn's the type of guy who wants to think things through.
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that they can get these votes. I don't know that they can at the last minute.
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that if Quinn spent all week long feeling like, okay, I can't get Tucker out, you know, he's going to be here.
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to need to target him next week. And then you approach him at the last minute, you're like, actually we have the votes.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_05]: He just hasn't planned for that.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And so I really think you do need to do some work ahead of time.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_05]: You also need to do some work to protect MJ, who you really shouldn't lose here.
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And I would say again, you should be working on MJ and making sure that he's not drifting away because she tends to drift and we'll talk about that today.
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So I like that Chelsea and Cameron are doing more work.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that Chelsea in particular needs to be doing more and more work here today.
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_05]: You can't let go of the gas pedal at all really on this.
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think there's a lot of players on kind of has to even say that side of the house because there are no sides.
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But when it comes to like Quinn and Chelsea who I think work a lot better from a bad position and I fear the second they get back on top.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They'll self sabotage and destroy their position again just by either getting passive or being way too active in Quinn's case.
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But I do like these versions of them where they're kind of just playing this scrappy game from the bottom middle trying to figure things out.
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So Tucker and Joseph are going to be talking with Cam themselves.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_05]: They that, you know, Cam had made this final two with Tucker before the veto and Joseph had this long conversation with Cam the day before.
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And so the three of them are now getting together and they're talking about like potentially working together and how you know hey,
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_05]: if you're going to suspect the men are working together.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Why not like they're gonna have a girls night tonight I bet they're going to be talking about the women working together.
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_05]: We should be doing something we should be looking out for each other.
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_05]: They throw out some names that they should be careful of with Joseph.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And then Cam later tells Chelsea about it.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's about time a men's alliance starts ratting each other out to the women in the house.
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_02]: The huge step for big brother house guests.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean it's gotten to the point where it's almost not worth mentioning new alliances because they're all so fake.
[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't matter.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the only benefit of alliances is sometimes when people are making their nominations they feel more hesitant to put someone in one of their supposed alliances up.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But in terms of like long game stability there is nothing and I will say these three did try to name their alliance.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think we're going to go into what their plan name was.
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's why Joseph we need to be careful of this name with Joseph in there.
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's too much.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_05]: It was too much for anyone.
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I mean you know you say that about like hesitancy in terms of nominating your alliance members and yet in this week we have two alliance members of the HOH on the block.
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like two alliance members like two or three times over.
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: They're in several alliances together.
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you volunteer that my rule is null and void.
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Now Joseph does talk to Tucker and you know they're doing their regular critics thing but notably he mentions to Tucker that he does think they will need to break up the chemo Rubina T for trio at some point.
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_05]: He says this multiple times.
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is something that's on Joseph's mind.
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_05]: In terms of like, I think where he's looking next.
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you know, moving forward in this game if you're planting yourself into Joseph's head, you think, you know, I've got my final two with Tucker and I'm going to go to the final two with him and everyone's going to vote for me because I've already told them that he shouldn't win.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I'm also going to bring Leah to the final three and then probably break her heart by choosing to bring Tucker but that's okay because I really like her and things will work out after the show.
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And when you know I'll drag him along for a while because he sucks this game too much.
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And you know, you start to realize that like people like Rubina, people like chemo, the people that he's worried about. They're not really in his long term plans and I think he's looking at potentially taking shots at them soon.
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a trap though. You can't go to Tucker and say we got to start worrying about Rubina.
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't happen.
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Jared, we got to start worrying about blue core. We got to start worrying about America.
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Like right now it does seem like Tucker's number one loyalty is to Joseph, but that is very temporary and it is like only a matter of time until Rubina takes that spot if she hasn't already.
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So like I don't hate the idea of Joseph heading in that direction. Part of me is like you just want to get rid of Cam to hope Tucker can comp out more to help you because I just struggle to see a way where Joseph can like navigate his way to the end
[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_02]: in a good honest big brother fashion.
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean you know I remember that like when Joseph first mentioned that he wanted to bring Tucker to the final two there was a lot of talk about like well that is not going to really happen.
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Come on like like he just sees just thinking this but like this has actively changed the course of Joseph's game for the worse not for the better like joining the mafia.
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And he has just gone so all in on this plan on this idea of Tucker in the final two. Every conversation is tinged with this agenda because he lacks subtlety and so every conversation is like you know we talked about this on the getaway podcast.
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Like there was this moment where one of the players was just like oh oh Stephen. Yes, Stephen you're so you're doing so well like that is Joseph with Tucker.
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like everything Tucker does Joseph is like oh yes that's so good for us it's so good for us that Tucker's doing this Tucker. Oh this is so good he's going to lose the game guys he's got it's totally fine to bring him to the
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: final two. Oh Tucker's winning things that's great for us Tucker lost a thing that's great for us Tucker's mad at Angela that's great for us now he's friends with Angela again that's also great for us guys it's just always so good for us whatever Tucker does.
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching Big Brother 7 now and it's giving Howie with Kacer case your wins H O H and how he's jumping around the backyard celebrating and James has to be like how we shut up.
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_02]: The problem with Joseph very simply is like I don't think he has a better option socially he's so out of it that like Tucker is really his like last dying breath in the house, getting to the final two with him like honestly my plan for Joseph is try to get to the final two with
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker and hopefully Tucker gets snipped somewhere along the way.
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_05]: So, so that's that's what's going on there we'll see where Joseph goes now speaking of Rubina.
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_05]: She spends the day kind of spiraling out again.
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_05]: She's again worried about Tucker and is he playing me is this real. He's an actor. Did he kiss me in front of everyone just to plan to target on me.
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Was that was that what the idea was and genuinely she spends like a good portion of this day and we talked about this on the round table but like she's she stopped playing the game and she started playing relationship.
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And like, fair to her the relationship matters more to her than the game she says so like this is she's like I don't even care about the game anymore.
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I just care about this whole thing with Tucker because that's that's the real win condition for me at this point is is getting a relationship with Tucker because by the end of the day she's like back on board and she's like talking about like you know them being together forever and stuff like that.
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_05]: But like this is really occupying a lot of her mental space and it's definitely hurting her in the game.
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think this was most concerning to me when she was nominated a few weeks ago and it felt like that entire week she talked more about Tucker than she had at any point during the season.
[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Like her priorities are not like perfectly straight and I think you can tell that she's kind of like distracted when MJ is able to like get in her head.
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because she's the only one MJ can get through to at all.
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, I haven't got through to Tucker.
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they are perfect for each other, Teran.
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: They truly are.
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's like it's again, it's like like I like I get it like to some degree you know that she's deep in the throes of this relationship.
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But while being in this very like weird environment, you know, for me I'm sure you can somewhat.
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the problem is like I know I uttered the sentence America's more important to me than the game that was when I was already on the block and being evicted almost guaranteed.
[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. And part of that was a campaign as well of like the second I start like campaigning against America, you know, that house would have turned on me and called me a million names.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Rabina has much strategic thought when it comes to what she's saying here like ultimately when it comes to Rabina and Tucker, Rabina is in a much more winning position than Tucker unless you just want to go all in on competitions.
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So like it is concerning, but I still like her positioning and I don't think she's really in any immediate danger.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. And that's the thing about Rabina as well is that like I do think her head is out of the game right now.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I do think that she's overly hyper focused on Tucker.
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think this is like a turning point in their relationship.
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Like this is like a like a reflection point.
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Like it's like she they're going like this is their transitioning from one stage of their relationship to another which is like we've been kissing a little bit like we're into each other.
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But now we're actually facing some strife, some turmoil.
[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Can we get through that?
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Can we get over that bumpy patch?
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And if so I think there'll be more locked in together assuming he stays.
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think she will get her head a little bit more back in the game after this section ends or if he leaves.
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I am very curious, Terriana, because it's the way Rabina is talked about in the house.
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It blows me away. It's always chemo decor and Rabina.
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's never Rabina and Tucker.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just odd to me because every especially earlier in this season, anyone who got close to even like being considered a showman.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea would like step on it. We got to get rid of them. No showman is allowed.
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's just Tucker's compability that people are scared to talk about it, but it's very odd to me.
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think it's because people are scared to target Tucker.
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_05]: So they can't say Tucker and Rubina.
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: They have to say Rubina and chemo really.
[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_05]: But the reality is that a good amount of those people would actually backdoor Tucker if they had the option.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_05]: But like Tucker is so not targetable that they can't even talk about targeting him and Rubina.
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Because normally you would just put Tucker and Rubina up on the block and go have fun, but you can't really do that.
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Terriana, I'm getting confused. Is Tucker on the block this week?
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Like isn't that...
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, whatever.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: He has a one and three chance of surviving and he's won two of these before.
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_05]: So...
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Angela's won two HOHs before.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_05]: That's true.
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Tucker's been immune for five straight weeks, though.
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's make it six.
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I understand the hesitance here.
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Tucker is very likely to be safe and very volatile.
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Like any hint of anybody saying anything against him and you are his target for the next two weeks.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And he is very likely to win AI and then potentially HOH.
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Like if it's slip and slide like he wants, he's basically guaranteed.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's like unless Cam can keep up with him.
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Even if it's only two people can win Cam or Tucker, that's so unbelievably bad for you.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_05]: If you campaigned hard to get him out and then he wasn't even an option.
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So like I do get it.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Like it's a very tough position.
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_05]: We've talked about this.
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_05]: He should be basically immune for as long as AI is around.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I've seen a lot of people like criticize you and just like people who talk about like comps in this way of like it is.
[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Can't everyone just like win comps themselves?
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think there is something very impressive about what Tucker's doing.
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Like competitions are an element of the game and he's crushing that element of the game.
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just from the other player's perspective.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It kind of just puts you in this bind where you're either the dummy who targets the comp beast or you're the dummy who lets the comp beast get to the end.
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And let's be honest, I'm not going to be surprised on Thursday if they walk into the backyard and it's the wall again.
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:19:59] Yeah.
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And like there's a good chance that you could like especially, you know, again, this season has been a bit better.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But like, given the trends of the last five, six years, it would not be surprising at all if you walked out into the AI arena and you said, oh, Tucker's definitely going to win this.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you walk into the net following HOH and you say, oh, either Tucker or Cam is definitely going to win this.
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like how like what do you do there?
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's that's a tough place to be.
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the biggest conversation point I've seen online this week is does it make sense for T core to target Tucker.
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker wants to protect T core.
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to win competitions.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Keep her safe.
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Jag was safe from the final nine on since one week, one double addiction.
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's never too early.
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like even for someone like Joseph and Rabina who I really do think it benefits to keep Tucker in right now that would be my call if I was them.
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Getting rid of him right now is an okay move to a great move for every single person in the house because you just don't know how these things are going to play out and just getting it out of the way while you can.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it can't be that terrible of a move.
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And you know, I said this last night, but like, you know, barring the first week, which wasn't even a real opportunity to take cover out because they were busy taking out another big massive physical threat.
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Tucker has this is basically potentially because it might not even be this might be the first time Tucker is ever vulnerable in the game in a serious way.
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And the only reason he's vulnerable right now is because the other physical guy left in the house beat him in the veto competition.
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was the two of them in the end.
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It was they were the final two people left in that.
[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And for all you know, this is one of maybe two times.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_05]: This is ever going to be possible.
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe three tops at this point given how immune he has been to this point.
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And if that one or two times has a Bowie Jane, a Rubeena or a Joseph who wins that HOH, you don't even get that shot.
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And then and then this is literally the only chance you ever had to take the guy out.
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He also noted that like Tucker makes himself vulnerable more than he should.
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's on the block.
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_02]: He's volunteering.
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He's given away a veto.
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he really is.
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_02]: He's been immune for so many weeks and he's thrown away certain immunities.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of crazy.
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And look, I think I have to imagine we have one more week of AI arena max.
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But what that means is that gives you a two to three week window of a backdoor and those last weeks are not real backdoor options.
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a prayer.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't get picked in the veto draw because there's six people and seven people competing, you know, or the opposite.
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So like I think there's going to be one window at the final nine when you could legitimately backdoor Tucker.
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That's when we got rid of Cam.
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But how many people are going to house his choice?
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's just.
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So Quinn talks to Joseph.
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And Quinn thinks that because the main topic of conversation that I think will be that people will have over the next day or so is going to be Angela versus MJ on the block, which one goes home.
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, T core was leaning.
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_05]: MJ goes home.
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's T core.
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_05]: She could really go either way.
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_05]: T core actually doesn't have too much conversation about this yet because it's only Tuesday.
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_05]: She's got until Thursday night to make this decision.
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_05]: So she's going to have those conversations on Thursday, probably.
[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_05]: She's a procrastinator.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_05]: But but there are some other people having this conversation.
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Primarily Quinn, who would really prefer to see Angela Lee.
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And so he pitches this to Joseph.
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, Joseph had already had the conversation.
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_05]: He actually prefer Angela stay.
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_05]: He feels like he has a good relationship with Angela and he doesn't have the best relation MJ and Tucker really wants MJ to leave.
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And so he feels like that that makes sense to him.
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_05]: However, when makes a pitch to him that seemingly changes his mind because what Quinn says is, hey, we take Angela out.
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_05]: That brings Leah closer to us.
[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And Joseph is like, but I think Leah is already close to us.
[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, yeah, but she'll be even closer because she won't have Angela.
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, hmm, you actually make a good point when they almost I don't know if it was in this conversation or earlier.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: In the day, they almost like predicted or forecasted the Leah Angela final to it didn't exist when they talked about it, but it did exist later in the day.
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_05]: It's been sort of building Angela pitched so hard to keep Leah off the block.
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So now everyone's aware of how close they are.
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And this is now, yes, culminating into actual strategic relationship.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I think first of all, I have a couple of things with Quinn and Joseph.
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like they're still keeping up this facade with each other that they have a final to even though obviously neither of them care about the other in the end game, which I just find funny to watch because it's just they're both bsing each other and they both aware that they're bsing each other.
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But Joseph is just so transparent with his wanting to keep Angela that like I think it makes it easier for Quinn to argue against that idea because I think Quinn is trying to come up with justifications to convince Joseph where Joseph is just like.
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like I think Angela is good for us.
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really not much behind the words.
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And the one thing I do agree with Quinn about because he's been a all over the place kind of player.
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I think getting rid of Angela is just the right call for in the same way of like getting rid of Tucker's the right call because he's a copies getting rid of Angela is the right call because she is going to be dragged very far into the game.
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So either one of these people leaving I feel like is good for everyone. Give or take one or two people.
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I agree especially because she's it's not like she's loyal to people.
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Now you know that said I think that you know the thing is if you're not with MJ MJ is more dangerous and so that's why Angela is dangerous because she's always going to be less dangerous than somebody who's against you that's on the block.
[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_05]: But but if MJ is not against you and she's not really actually against really anyone because she's really just still drifting around.
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_05]: If you're able to pick MJ up actually which Quinn is going to try to do that it does make a lot of sense to try to grab to try to take Angela out now again seemingly Joseph is kind of convinced here now there's there's you know you talked about this dynamic between Quinn and Joseph.
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_05]: It's getting worse.
[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, so there's always been this little bit of rival right like when being like hey you know which one's going to get better deep dive.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, and now you know now they're both kind of in one sided relationships with Leah and they both have crushes on Leah.
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think most importantly for Joseph like he's noticing that Quinn also has a relationship with Leah and Quinn's like oh the three of us should get an alliance and Joseph's like.
[00:27:34] I don't know.
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Three of us need to it's like he has an alliance with Leah and I think there's some there's a little bit of a competitiveness happening.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And so there's I mentioned this last night on the round table but there's this moment where Quinn is talking to Joseph about the alliance that he mentioned the night before with T for chemo and Rubina where it was like hey, this is so good great news.
[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I was talking to them last night and I feel like we can start an alliance like the three of them plus us to something like that.
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And Joseph is just like, oh yeah that that was me.
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I did that I was talking to them about like hey let's swap out Angela for either Quinn or Leah.
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And you know it'll probably be you because you're better at comps.
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And and Quinn was just like, oh.
[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Well also because I'm good at the game right and Joseph's like no not really that's you're not.
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Not very good.
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph's a little bit mean to Quinn like kind of constantly and it's in a very jokey fashion but in the same way that Joseph jokes about him being the star of the show and going to get all the jury votes and like there's an error of sarcasm.
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But there's definitely a very clear underlying truth to it.
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's what he thinks and Quinn's responding in the haha but there's also an underlying hurt there so it's a very weird thing to watch these two talk but like the main point I kind of took from this whole conversation was this weird Leah dynamic because I understand both of them forget about the crush from a strategic standpoint wanting to bring Leah as far as they can it's the only number they both rightfully or wrong.
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_02]: They're wrongfully view as like their number.
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: She can't be both of your numbers.
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think ultimately both of them just believe they really have Leah and they're both wrong.
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think they're both a little bit I think Joseph more than Quinn a little bit threatened by the other one in terms of like them encroaching upon their territory as a.
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a question Taren.
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Did Quinn throw the arm wrestle to Joseph because if Quinn wins that arm wrestle I fear Joseph's targeting Quinn next week.
[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I think so too.
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean he definitely threw to Leah which makes me think he was definitely in the mindset of throwing.
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I saw him on the wall.
[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Taren there's no way Joseph beats Quinn in that.
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah you're probably I mean listen arm wrestling is not actually about strength as much.
[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean it is but like it's mostly technique and if somebody is not like if somebody's using.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Is to amateur arm wrestlers neither of them are using proper techniques.
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_05]: It's mostly just going to be about like who's cheating the most.
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah who knows who knows.
[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_05]: But there is this again this is like sort of what's what's going on is that like there's also this is ongoing debate between the two of them about who would win in a fight.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And Joseph is like like Quinn is like oh I totally beat you in a fight like you know I'm an athlete right.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And Joseph is like yeah I kind of have to concede to that but you know actually I think I would actually I think I would surprise you you know I would really like I do whatever he said he did like very very Tucker I was trained by the CIA like I would actually give you a big run for your money.
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And then Quinn was like oh yeah but like I mean even if you had better technique like I've got the cardio like for round three and we're both really tired like I'm going to be still go and again like they're joking.
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they're not joke.
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we've all had conversations with our friends like this where like well it depends on the arena like if it's an octagon you'd have the edge but if it was an open field I would just be able to run over and it's it's very funny to watch I also think of this like idea in Joseph subconscious
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: of I've been throwing every comp if I wanted to I'd have three vetoes and two HOH's by now.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think he needs to start trying in comps so he can be humbled in that way I felt that way certainly after six weeks of throwing comps I like won the next HOH I was like one for one and all of a sudden I'm thinking oh this this is easy and I proceed to lose every comp by three or four minutes.
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So I do think Joseph still believes he's got more physical whatever that he actually has.
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's also telling more and more people about all the comps he's thrown.
[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's my the mark I've left on the season Terran is not good he was telling Cam it's okay part of me doesn't hate it and this is me full Devils advocate on Joseph's behalf.
[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: The whole premise of not telling people you're throwing comps is you tell people you're throwing comps and you become a useless ally right because they're working with you you're not winning comps to protect them.
[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But no one wants to align with Joseph.
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, nobody he has no allies.
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So so does the idea that I'm throwing comps.
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Make you like a more attractive prospect to bring towards the end because he wants to play the doctor will game and you could say maybe he's lying about that I don't think he is.
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_05]: No I think you're right.
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I think that's a very good Devils argument argument.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it's what he's doing intentionally but I do think you're right.
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not a shred of intentionality but he will claim its intentional in the deep dive.
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I just I love that like I love that he made a point of talking about how he watched you give the advice of don't tell people you're throwing competitions hold somebody else that he watched you give that advice and then subsequently ignored that advice for the rest of the game.
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever seen Quinn try to give him advice it's the same thing like Joseph is an interesting person.
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not an advice giver not an advice taker.
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I like right now of my two students.
[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn's getting a mid sea Joseph Slepen.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh boy.
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I can just imagine the deep dive with Joseph.
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, you're you're all right at these deep dives.
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you could be much better though.
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not gonna lie.
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I personally I would probably clear you in deep dives but I chose I choose to throw them.
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So no, Taren, you're you're great at deep dives but like I you know at the comic book store you got to talk a lot.
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So like I think I've got a little bit more talking but like you're really great but I don't know honestly I think here's what I want Taren.
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you should get them both in a call and do a joint three way deep dive.
[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's I've been planning.
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh boy.
[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so Quinn and Joseph talk with Kimo and Tucker about the vote and both Quinn and Joseph are now pitching that Angela should leave with the argument that if you're up against Angela on the block, you have no argument to stay to stay.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Whereas if you're against MJ at least you have an argument.
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Tucker says I feel the opposite.
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Tucker does not agree he is not swayed, but this is an ongoing debate.
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like it's a very meta thing as well because you're saying no one's going to vote him out but keep in mind, you guys are the house guests.
[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So you all can vote her out whenever you want.
[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Tucker just underestimating the actual human element of like when you're in the game and it comes down to that decision, you won't vote her out.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just hard for you to like I think Tucker is like what do you mean I'm not going to vote her out.
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I will we will but especially when you got four people in a room you can almost shut down that argument immediately.
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's, you know, maybe if Tucker watched a couple more seasons.
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, let's let's get into some of the really wacky stuff from yesterday because I talked about paranoia.
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_05]: So here's here's what I believe happens here.
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_05]: MJ is still theorizing all over the place she thinks that there's a guys alliance she thinks that you know that like the Pentagon might still be do you think there's a bunch of theories that MJ has and she just keeps spouting them out.
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And normally when you have a player who's completely in the dark about things giving theories about who might be in alliances, everybody else kind of like sniggers behind their back like
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe what MJ thinks like oh my God.
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But for whatever reason, in this house, anytime anybody says a theory and MJ says a lot of them.
[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_05]: People are like, wait.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, there's another alliance.
[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_05]: She speaks very definitively.
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_05]: She's confident.
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_05]: So she's been running through she's been running through the names of alliances and she gets to the ballers alliance.
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, who is in the ballers alliance?
[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Hold on.
[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, just to remind the audience, the ballers or as I called them the ball boys.
[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_05]: That that was the alliance that Tucker made with Kenny and and Cedric and and Cam with the intention of using the veto on Angela and back during Quinn that that alliance died within a day because Cedric did not get to
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_05]: go through with the plan.
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is the alliance that just just so you know this Tucker made is the alliance that Tucker made.
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So MJ starts thinking the ballers alliance who could be in the ballers alliance.
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And then she thinks well, Cam.
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Quinn and Chelsea they're all athletes.
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_05]: They're ballers.
[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_05]: They're also the three remaining Pentagon members.
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_05]: What if the baller's alliance is Quinn Cam and Chelsea?
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_04]: She says this to Tucker who made the ballers alliance.
[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Tucker goes.
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, you're right.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, if only we had someone other than chemo and T core to clear up this whole situation just ask one direct question.
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So Tucker now seemingly is possible.
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_05]: He's just pretending to believe this.
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It's also possible that it's also possible.
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you're right.
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_05]: He never does that.
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_05]: He always pretends that he pretended to believe it.
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_05]: But then he but the reality is that he always believes it and then was talked out of it.
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's the other possibility if we're giving him any amount of credit here is that I called them the ball boys.
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_05]: MJ is calling them the ballers.
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the actual alliance name was like the ball players or something like that.
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's possible that he thinks that this is a separate alliance, but the reality is that like he's just really probably misinterpreting and misunderstanding and misremembering that this alliance that she's talking about is his alliance.
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_05]: The one that he made.
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And so he starts telling all of his alliance, Rubina chemo, the core is like, guys, guys, I knew we couldn't trust Quinn.
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_05]: He's an alliance with Cam and Chelsea that's called the ballers and they're, they're each grabbing a person and pretending to be with that person.
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And, and, and we got to we have to target them.
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I mean, I think this season proactive lying would be ridiculously effective because there's not much fact checking going around.
[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think my suspicion with this whole Tucker thing.
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Tucker remembers the ball players ballers alliance at all.
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think he's like misinterpreting like wait, I wasn't in that alliance.
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the real I think he doesn't remember the alliance existing and this is just like a new entity to him.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. Yeah, that was the vibe.
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And again, chemo and decor.
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: We should talk to Quinn about this.
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. They're like, should we ask when he's like, no, no.
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: The red flag. But I think like even chemo and decor by themselves are talking like we should just ask Quinn and they say yes, we're going to directly ask Quinn and we'll see.
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. They don't really believe this because of course they shouldn't.
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_05]: They think that Tucker is being paranoid, which is and also like I talked with this last night, but like, Tucker, what are you doing?
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Like you have chased away so many of your votes to stay this week. Quinn is a pretty crucial one.
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Like if Quinn has any hints that you are targeting him again or suspicious of him yet again, like when it comes down to the two minutes before the vote and you're still on the block and Chelsea and Cam go up to Quinn and say, hey, are you down?
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Like it's don't give him more reasons for no reason to vote you out.
[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm looking at the screen right now.
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He definitely feels like he has chemo and rubina.
[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he feels like he'd have Angela if she'd come off the block, but I don't know in his head what votes he thinks he has.
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it doesn't look good.
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think he's not really preparing for the possibility of being on the block.
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So any try.
[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Now in the meantime,
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Quinn talks to MJ and says, hey, you know, I really want you to stay.
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I think we can get the votes to keep you over Angela and so on and so forth.
[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And so now in MJ's mind, because it all has to like go through an interpretation of MJ's perspective.
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_05]: In MJ's mind, this is Quinn saying the guys want you to stay.
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I am the representative of the men.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Quinn did not just guarantee the votes to stay.
[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn said I could probably make it unanimous.
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Like how?
[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_02]: How are we making it unanimous against against Angela?
[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I guess I think what he's trying to do is say I'm the one pushing this because he is he wants credit for it.
[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_05]: But he's saying that like by the time he makes it happen, it will be unanimous.
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_05]: But don't don't get it twisted.
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm the one that pushed for it.
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_05]: The other people are just jumping on.
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't think it came across that way.
[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I could understand that because it was a big confusion when we got rid of Izzy and kept Felicia.
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_02]: There was an 8-1 vote and Felicia was unclear on exactly what happened for about a couple of weeks.
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I should have been more clear about that.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think like him, I guess trying to get ahead of it ultimately it's MJ.
[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think it's that important.
[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But I guess I could understand like this.
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You've seen McQuinsey on Twitter.
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I think Mackenzie is almost a better path for Quinn than Leah.
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Certainly.
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But maybe.
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the problem is I just I don't trust Leah at all either.
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know if Mackenzie Mackenzie thinks he's working with the guys.
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but the thing about Mackenzie over Leah is that at least Mackenzie doesn't actively dislike Quinn.
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they made genuinely like each other.
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it seems like a friendship.
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Mackenzie said she'd be willing to cuddle with Quinn after a few more weeks, which that's crazy.
[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But if there's something that could be worked out there, is she going to be evicted in two days?
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll see.
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I also think one of my favorite side plots of the season so far is how often I don't think I've mentioned this in the updates.
[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But how often MJ is just like dunking on Matt on the feeds.
[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he was so annoying.
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_05]: He ruined my game.
[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm sure Matt's having a field day on TikTok.
[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I truly that's what makes it because I don't think people like, you know, you're people talking bad about you.
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You're on the outside watching the feeds probably feels bad.
[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Matt every time his name is mentioned just gets a rush of dopamine.
[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think he's taking it too hard.
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And for what it's worth, I don't think she's being like super serious about it.
[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think it's very funny.
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so Girls Night finally happens.
[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And they're upstairs.
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_05]: They're talking about who runs the world.
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And they're hanging out upstairs.
[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And meanwhile, the boys downstairs, they're cleaning.
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Pretty funny juxtaposition.
[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of crazy like the existence of Girls Night guarantees the existence of Boys Night.
[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't really take advantage of that, but they did all speculate over the girls are probably probably working together upstairs.
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, they really weren't.
[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the problem with Girls Night was that two of them were on the block and very likely to be on the block against each other.
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And therefore it wasn't really possible to lock anything in because which one do you choose?
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like if Tucker is going to win the AI arena, one of Angelo or MJ has to leave.
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And so you can't make one big alliance that includes both of them.
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, also this is not the group for a girls alliance.
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: There's too many.
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many like as much as people say, okay, Rabina's linked to Tucker for sure.
[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_02]: T-Core is linked to Kimo for sure.
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of them are still want to do the girls alliance plus Kimo.
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you have like, OK, is Leah linked to Cam and Quinn and Joseph?
[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And is Chelsea linked to like I think the girls alliance theoretically that's going to dominate a future season has to start much earlier than this before there's a billion connections throughout the house.
[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I feel like the correct way to do the gender alliance is to wait until all the showman's has have started and then do an alliance of all one gender where none of them are in a showman's because I think the showman's is always the thing that ruins it.
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but yeah, a lot of seasons is like three showman's.
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So you've got to have like the dominoes have to fall perfectly for this thing to work out and I have faith one day it will.
[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_05]: One day.
[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so we mentioned this earlier.
[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Leah and Angela lock in their final two.
[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And, and, you know, they like they again, they've had a very like social relationship to this point.
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_05]: But now, especially now that it's basically exposed, like they might as well lock in a strategic one.
[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Close enough.
[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back the hitman.
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Look, I think this is Leah's one winning outcome.
[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So lock it in.
[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I agree but like also very dangerous to actively forge a strategic bond with Angela.
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's it would have been much better to keep it social I think.
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_02]: What was the Angela like preface this final two with everyone has tried to make final twos with me.
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the only final two I want to make and Leah no verbal response just goes.
[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's locked in.
[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be like day 86 and they're going to finally show it on the episodes and flashback to day 42 showing this as like, okay, this is actually how the season went down.
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, no, they're going to have to show it next week when Angela goes, Leah, how am I supposed to feel special when I know you've got Joseph and Quinn after you have faith, Karen.
[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I like them as a duo.
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're great.
[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.
[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how it goes.
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_05]: So then we talked about it already Quinn and Joseph, they do their arm wrestling.
[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_05]: They continue their debate about who would win in a fight.
[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Leah gets involved.
[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_05]: She does some arm wrestling.
[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And then Joseph has a conversation with Leah where it's I mean, first of all, it's filled with his classic Joseph stuff.
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been throwing comps.
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's all the ways I manipulate people.
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm so good at this game so on and so forth.
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_05]: He mentions to her that he believes Quinn is jealous of him.
[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, not surprising to hear.
[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And she's like, oh, Joseph, you're the best.
[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And let me tell you, like he's just like, I am.
[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Leah, like you're my favorite.
[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Like honestly, one of my favorite people I've ever met in my entire life.
[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And like, I just want you to know, like no matter what happens in this game, a.k.a. I plan to cut you.
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I hope we're cool after this.
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_05]: He's he's he's basically like, listen, Leah, I kind of like like right and Leah's response is.
[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just hope we make it far in the game, Joseph.
[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So the strategic relationship that we have works out for me is what I'm hoping here.
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_04]: He says, yeah, yeah, but you just you never know what the game has in store.
[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I definitely still do plan to cut you.
[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But I just never I never want to hurt you.
[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And so I hope you're not hurt when I cut you because I do care about you a lot like like a lot, a lot, a lot.
[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we're one week away from Joseph becoming rapida.
[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Some things are more important than the game.
[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Leah, you know, I think we can work things out.
[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot of people talk about Leah either like getting her too much praise for manipulating all the men or being way too like sexist about how she's manipulating all the men.
[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_02]: She's not giving a much.
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_02]: She's really not.
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she's just existing and by virtue, like she's being arguably nice, nicer.
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just nice.
[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think in it and running with it.
[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I think my theory is that that she said she was a chubby chaser.
[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And then all of a sudden it was like, oh, I've got a chance.
[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I have a theory about this for my time in the house and casting my whole thing because you got to get quirky things about yourself.
[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I said I was in the milfs, you know, like people like people women in their 40s who can offer me an internship.
[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That was my line.
[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's funny.
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I had never dated anyone above the age of 35.
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's not that's a little crazy for me.
[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Leah went into these interviews, talked about chubby chasers.
[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It helps you in casting.
[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a cool thing.
[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you get in the house and you're like, well, I guess I'm going to keep it up.
[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess you have to continue this facade and let's be real.
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Joseph's got a little chub like I said horrible.
[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the thing it's not, it's not about like feeling like you are necessarily chubby yourself.
[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_05]: But like if you are not, you know, Tucker or Cam and somebody says they're a chubby chaser, you're like, well, that means that they're not automatically going to go to Tucker or Cam that I've got a chance.
[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_02]: No, you don't have a chance, Joseph.
[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But I do hope their friends outside the house.
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_02]: She's done a lot less talking bad about Joseph than a Quinn.
[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if Joseph's infrared is rude of an awakening.
[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She is, she is picking it up though.
[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And as time goes on, there's less and less strategy to talk about like you only these things compound and get worse and worse.
[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, he says he cares about her a lot like like a lot a lot.
[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And she says, I appreciate your honesty.
[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm always going to give that back to you.
[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And you know what?
[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never given your name up, Joseph.
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's not true.
[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: But she says it and I hope that you would never give my name up.
[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, again, like he is kind of he's trying to trying to sort of tell her how he feels and she's responding in my eyes very clearly.
[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Like she's trying to be, I guess nice but also tactful.
[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_05]: You could say one or the other by making it pretty clear like I am not responding to your feelings about me.
[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I am responding in terms of game and he eventually seems to take the hint and start talking about games.
[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's always tough with Joseph though because he's always in his own head about these things.
[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think he's often thinking of how he's coming off even more than what he's actually saying.
[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Like a lot of times he tries to like feign emotion in conversations.
[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe if you want to be charitable, Joseph right now, you could say Joseph is just trying to like forge some deeper personal connection with Leah.
[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's our perspective necessarily.
[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm trying to give him something.
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, Leah still feels like she can't trust Joseph much.
[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_05]: At least that's what she says to other people.
[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_05]: She feels like he is like a mole from the guys trying to work on her.
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see.
[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see what all of what comes of all of this.
[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And honestly, this was kind of like a filler day.
[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Like just a lot of paranoia, a lot of like loosening of the bonds that tie the structure together.
[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's really not any solidly set plan for the eviction yet.
[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Like if the vote happened right now, MJ is probably the most likely to leave followed by Angela, followed by Tucker.
[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_05]: But there's still like the conversations haven't really happened yet that needs to happen in order to actually lock that vote in.
[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And then there's always the chance that something does shift in the minutes before the eviction given certain results.
[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So still a little bit up in the air here.
[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think MJ has such a clear path to staying against either of them.
[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no, there's like one or two people in the house who benefit from keeping Tucker, one or two people who benefit from keeping Angela and everyone else benefits from theoretically keeping Mackenzie if she wants to work with them.
[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: If she just has a one on one with everybody saying I would like to work with you, I think everyone would be on board.
[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_02]: She's just the safe consensus target right now.
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_02]: She's active.
[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she'll have the conversations.
[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_02]: The problem is because of her theories, she might throw the wrong person under the bus and then she'll start losing votes instead of picking new ones up.
[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I think she should run the most fake, easy, no information spreading BB campaign.
[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And I really think she should stay this week.
[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I think she needs to stop with the theories right now while she's in danger and just focus on I'm a number for you.
[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And, and I think that will cause Angela is also going to be shooting herself in the foot probably.
[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So like if you can just avoid doing that and just focus on like what she was doing the other day when she was like nobody cares about me.
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I never talked to anybody.
[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I just want to be brought into something like that's much more effective than than like hey, I think these three people Quinn, Cam and Chelsea, AKA my biggest advocates right now.
[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_02]: They're all in the audience.
[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But she doesn't she doesn't have the information she doesn't know it's a really tough spot in Big Brother when you don't know who to campaign to.
[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And like the thing that a lot of people do is you either guess who to campaign to which is often wrong or you campaign very broadly, which usually doesn't work either.
[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think this time it might.
[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Anything else or that you want to bring up?
[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_02]: No, what a ridiculous day of feeds.
[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the T core Kimo and Rabina had more late night talks and they were not worth bringing up.
[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Not really.
[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_05]: A lot more talk about Tucker a lot more general chat.
[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So that is what we have for you today.
[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I will of course be back tomorrow morning at 11am Eastern to update you and everything that happens today on the Big Brother 26 live feeds including potential conversation about the vote.
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I would imagine that T core Kimo and Rabina get talking and going back and forth about who they want out at some point today.
[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And they probably won't decide until tomorrow anyway.
[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_05]: When we'll probably be pushing Angela some more MJ will be spouting more theories and it'll be a silly day of feed.
[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So stay tuned for that tonight's two hour episode I'll be on Twitch live watching with all of you.
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[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Corey what do you got going on?
[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I just want to say it's one of those dangerous new things that I've picked up on Big Brother where every season we have a two hour episode dedicated to Yankee Swap.
[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it is a waste of everybody's time but yeah I'm where I am twitch.tv slash Cory Wharton Burger streaming a lot of that Big Brother and stuff of the sort.
[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_02]: American Iron Patreon patreon.com slash AmeriCorey we're currently watching Big Brother 7 just finished week one and she's like how does season six not steamroll the whole thing?
[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like wait till you see the next three H.O.H.'s but that's what I've got going on and otherwise I'll be back here next next Wednesday.
[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_05]: All right well that is what we have for you then today thank you all so much for joining us and I will see all of you next time.