Today, Taran and Cory Wurtenberger recap the live feeds from day 78 of Big Brother 26.[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Every morning, Taran Armstrong, Tarkvick brother looking at the stuff from yesterday
[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_02]: All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from FEO to HOH
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[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our Live Feed Update for October 2nd
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The Big Brother 26 Live Feed was day 78 in the house
[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Quick day to talk about, but luckily with me to talk about it is Cory
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing great Taran. I love doing Live Feed Updates chatting with you talking about the game
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But this one could be an email
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it is an email
[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it is a picture of an email
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Reality TV newsletter just submits MJ made a cake
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We can all move on with our lives, but we are here so we will talk
[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, in fun news, I'm seeing that the callous plushies are arriving
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: That people ordered from the beginning of the season, so that's very exciting
[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It's huge. Just in time for the end game
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, of course as we know MJ is the HOH. She also won the veto
[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: She contemplated taking a shot at Cam, but ultimately Cam was able to talk her down a bit
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And she did not use the veto and that's where we are with Kimo as the target
[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Cam did tell Kimo that he wanted to keep him, but that they had to convince Chelsea
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And MJ
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So we were expecting maybe some movement on that front
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: As you may have noticed by the beginning of this update, not a lot of movement on that front
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So stay tuned on that
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The schedule for this season tends to be let's wait until Wednesday night to start talking about the decision again
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But at this point I'm starting to think it's probably not happening
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo is waiting for AI Arena to finish and then he's going to gather the truth
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: What I love so much about this like campaign by Kimo, and it's a very generous use of the word campaign
[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Is people are telling him they want to keep him
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the classic case of he's eventually going to get to the point where he has to get them in a room together
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's only two people to get into a room together
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think if they try to do the whole I want to keep you but I don't know about Chelsea
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to keep you. I don't know about cam if it was anyone but Kimo
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They'd obviously see through it, but because it's Kimo
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he wants to go through the effort of trying to get people into a room
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think I think this is where we're at
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean he could get them into a room so that they could sing a song
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Good one
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: All right. Well MJ does talk to Chelsea about cam again. She's you know, she didn't use the veto
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's not planning to target him now obviously he's not on the block
[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But she is thinking about like wait a minute. It's almost as if from MJ
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: She wanted to target cam because it made sense for her game
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Then came up with the reason or maybe maybe because she sees cam as closer to Chelsea or whatever the case may be
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: She wanted to target cam
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: She came up with the reason of he's he's throwing competitions
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's why we need to get him out
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Then he was like yeah, but I'm not throwing competitions. She was like oh damn. He's not throwing competitions
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess we'll keep him then after she didn't use the veto realized wait a minute. I wanted him out anyway
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And is now back to like so Chelsea at the final four. How are we feeling about cam?
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well look I competed in the big brother comics competition
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: In 30 minutes is insane Teran
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't express like it is one of those competitions that could kind of snowball you get like one or two things wrong
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know what's wrong and then you change things that are right and I could understand how the time would get up there
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But 30 minutes does feel like he's going into the DR and like
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Giggling about how he's throwing the competition and nobody knows because the problem is everyone else competed
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: They think so lowly of chemo and Rabina's compability and they beat him by 10 minutes
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So I do understand that perspective
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And from MJ it's like I
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Couldn't even tell you if getting rid of cam is the right move
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a lot of merit to it if she feels like her only winning endgame is against chemo and Rabina
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You might as well get rid of one of the people who can beat you
[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But you would have alienated Chelsea in that regard and then honestly for Chelsea
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Does it make more sense to go with the trio at that point as opposed to going against you?
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Chelsea was on board. I think that was the key to it that Chelsea seemed on board
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I think when it comes to Chelsea and cam, I want to let opinion settle for a day before I think anything is defending
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea would have settled in getting rid of cam mostly because that's like an asinine ridiculous
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Indefensible indefensible move for me and I think a little bit too highly of Chelsea's game for that
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's that's sort of the topic here though is that MJ is basically working on Chelsea again to try to get
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Chelsea to be down to make the move on cam at four
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Talking about like you know hey, I feel like cam next week. What are you thinking? What are you thinking between cam and Rabina because
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: you know
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: If we're looking at final three and we're looking to get the two of us to the end
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: We really gonna take cam over Rabina, you know like is I feel like Rabina is easier to beat
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a little bit of resistance here Chelsea's like I feel like they're they're equivalent, you know, they're both really bad
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: but
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But it does seem like MJ makes some progress here as evidence by the fact that Chelsea is gonna sort of again after this
[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Go and talk to the cameras and be like
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: This cam guy if he starts winning next week, I swear to God
[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I know he's throwing competitions
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If he starts winning next week, I'm gonna give him a big kiss on the lips like
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: No, she's like she'll be upset like she'll be
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think now I know and then an hour later like
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I think okay. Let's talk about cam Rabina in the final three HOH
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think both of them have about the same chances of winning everything that endurance comp cam has been good
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Rabina has been pretty good call that a wash
[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Part two. I think cam has been studying a hair more
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But he also got 30 minutes in BB comics like I think your decision of cam Rabina and obviously
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ and Chelsea are pushing for different things for their own games
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The comp factor, I don't think matters. I think Chelsea's right in that regard
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean it's just literally the only thing to talk about today. So
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you know
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting to me the idea that the MJ does seem to make some progress here with Chelsea
[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Chelsea's frustration with cam in the camera talks seems to indicate that like
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know that that MJ is
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: On to something and that there's some chance that she can get Chelsea to at the very least be okay with
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Sending cam out the door
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: This obviously matters because there's only three competitors for the final four HOH
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's cam Chelsea and Rabina assuming chemo leaves
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: With that in mind if MJ is looking to take the shot at cam
[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Being Chelsea being okay with it matters because if Chelsea is not okay with it. I'm not sure MJ cuts cam
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Then Chelsea being the HOH also matters
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's say Chelsea's the HOH and she wins the veto as well
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: She then chooses who votes we know that cam wants to take out MJ
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: We know that MJ wants to take out cam. She's not gonna give the vote to Rabina
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So who does she give the vote to she has to make a decision?
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And that also really matters right so it's setting up this final four to potentially be a little bit interesting in terms of
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: What kinds of decisions are made and given that Chelsea obviously
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Will I would say almost straight up wins the game if both MJ and cam are in the final three with her
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like how hard does she push to make that happen? Can she make that happen or?
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Does she not want that to happen is kind of like the big question right now
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I was always often maligned in my season for always talking about the worst-case scenario
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: No matter what the circumstances are and I think when you're in Chelsea's dominant position at this point
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to start thinking worst-case scenario almost exclusively. So we're going into the final four and
[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Is there any path where she gets evicted? I think what scares her the most is
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What like a cam HOH Rabina veto is her fear quite frankly a Rabina veto
[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she needs to worry about because I don't think Rabina is evicting cam regardless
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that yeah, I guess you're right though because specifically if Rabina's the HOH
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She can't decide and then if if she's the HOH so it is actually you're right
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It is a specifically a cam HOH Rabina Vita now
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: If only Rabina knew the days
[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that like there's a little bit of drama that could really happen next week and the odds of it are not that low
[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: There's only so many competitors, but it's gonna be a days comp
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't see a world where Chelsea doesn't win it because she's
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Visibly to us. Maybe there's a secret camera five where Rabina's counting the days
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But it feels like that level of possibilities kind of out of the window
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But like even if Chelsea makes in my opinion the incorrect decision gets rid of cam at four. It's Rabina MJ
[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That could still also be checked. I think the only problem there is like
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Rabina has recognized Chelsea's threat level has she recognized that she could beat MJ
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know I mean given how chemo and her being are talking and this could change
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But given how they're talking now. I do think Rabina would pick MJ over Chelsea
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's obviously very dangerous
[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You know one thing about this season has been that the competitions have been a lot more equitable talk about that a lot of course
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But basically how the competitions progressed over the years and big brother is that it started with the end game
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That the competitions were a lot more
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Reliably winnable, right?
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it spread out to the whole season
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: This end game is starting to I mean it's and it's obvious right we're getting these classic comps
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the the primary one the one that is the most reliably winnable has always been the final 3h oh
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It's always two physical comps with some mental component in the second one followed by the what used to be a crapshoot
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But is now a quiz which makes it eminently more winnable
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: so
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: What that means is that you can
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Plan for the end game and make it more predictable
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And so you can basically assume that Rabina is not gonna win this
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and that
[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you don't have to worry about that outcome as much
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_00]: but
[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: This season has been
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Different we don't know for sure that they're gonna follow that same end game path
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And what that means for Chelsea is you kind of do have to worry about somebody like Rubino
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Clutching out a final 4v2 or a final 3h oh each win because that's what used to happen on big brother
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: These random people that you didn't think could win competitions would then go on to win
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You know in big with her Canada Paris can win a bunch of endgame comps all of a sudden you find yourself out the door
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Or losing the game and so
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Ideally you'd want Chelsea to be really locking down Rabina here and instead MJ is the one doing it
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is kind of wild but that could change
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just a quick narrative of my season is like America and I had a lot of real conversations
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_01]: This is my plan moving forward of bringing Sir Reed 3
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: For the sole reason of she can't win part 1 or 2
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: America can't cut me for Sir Reed if she'll lose and again you kind of get in that checkmate position and I think like
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: For Chelsea, I still give her an MJ like I don't care what competition you design
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I give them both a 70 to 75% chance of beating Rabina in that competition
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But that 25 30% is like a real danger to them. I
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's take it back Taryn because I'm sure this has been a big subject of debate and all these updates
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They're are very scared of the Rabina cam thing, right?
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: They seem closer than they actually are they might be overstating that a little bit at least from cam side
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Why are we not voting out Rabina here? Is it just chemo is a bigger jury threat?
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's part of I think they're also worried about chemo and cam
[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the cam has a good relationship with both at this point. They also think chemo is a
[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Better competitor. They also feel like they have a stronger
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Hole on Rabina because of the women's thing
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: so I
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Think like in their minds it wouldn't surprise me even like the back of their minds
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They were like in the worst case scenario where Rabina wins a comp will really guilt her about the women stuff. I
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't think it'll work, but I think that they feel like at least there's something there or as with chemo. They've got nothing I
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Think Rabina has done a much better job than chemo to be fair
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't know. Yeah, all just like Rabina's tried which is funny because earlier in the season
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like chemo was the one campaigning for Rabina when Rabina was not trying to save herself
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So like when it comes to this trio chemo Rabina and shout outs T core
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of have ebbs and flows of who the player is and in the endgame. It seems like Rabina is that player
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if part of it is chemo feels like he's dead in the water
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's kind of felt like he was dead in the water for six weeks now where as Rabina still I guess has hope
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: My last kind of thing I wanted to bring up first of all about this Chelsea MJ conversation. Did you catch MJ?
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: soft accepting being cut by Chelsea Oh
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like it would be a really smart move and I get it and I'd feel blessed Chelsea's like that's good. Okay
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget. I'm not unaware
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not unaware of the fact that it would be very smart to cut me
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't be though
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: like I think um
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, and there's no ounce of me that believes MJ is thinking this way part of me if I was Chelsea would be concerned of like
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: She's trying to like get me to say it's okay back
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Am I supposed to say yeah, no
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I know cutting me would be a good thing too because what's been so fascinating about MJ in this endgame is when you have someone like
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a bowie Jane who's not gonna make self-interested decisions at the end of the game
[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You see you very rarely see like them
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Verbally rationalizing their decision and you can tell MJ knows almost at every step of this whole process from getting Leah out
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: She kind of knows it's all wrong, but she's hoping it's not it's well
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's very like it's not the same thing, but it's like for the person
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a similar situation to when Rubino told T-Core straight up like were your shields and it's like
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but you're not supposed to know that
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not supposed to say that to me
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly the only other piece of
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Drama through the day was what Corey referred to earlier
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Which was that Chelsea said that she planned to kiss Cam at the rap party
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: By surprise I guess
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Cam
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like walked in and was like what do you guys what are you talking about?
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: What's what's this plan you're talking about and they were like, oh, we're not gonna tell you
[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like no tell me and then that was like a whole thing through the night
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That would mess up the surprise aspect of the surprise kiss Terran they can't tell him. Yeah
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, here's first of all, let me say I'm very upset
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to be in LA because that was the plan for a while and I'm not so I might miss this
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: elaborate ruse
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: but I
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Can see a funny scenario
[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Where Chelsea wins big brother 26 after 90 days of fighting scheming
[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Playing her heart out being rewarded with 750 K going to the finale party
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is hosted at someplace that isn't Todrick's house goes in for the kiss gets rejected and she has a terrible night
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: She wins 750 K cements herself as a big brother legend and
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Like wants to go to her hotel room early
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just imagining the world where her and Cameron the final two she walks out to confetti goes to kiss Cam with the confetti
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and he's like oh and
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And then she walks sadly to like the front of the stage Jackson Mickey style
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Hugs your family I don't actually like it
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The I guess the last kind of interesting thing I haven't heard talked about too much is you bop sir. No
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You still got a chance
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Look here's what I'll say surprise kiss. I don't think is ever a good move as your opening move
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But apparently again Taryn on camera five they've been having lots of chats about their lives after the game
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: so
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: If if Quinn and Leah taught us anything it's never doubt
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: you know
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly if he says no and then in which case please down
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_00]: please
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: especially on this network
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The the last thing I wanted to talk about because I don't think it's been talked about too too much
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We talked a lot about chemo being like a low-key jury threat and how you just
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Win if he gets to the end he most likely would win
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think Robina carries?
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Any like if Robina gets to the end with MJ. I think it's tight with Chelsea. It's not competitive as the thought
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean the thing about chemo being the jury threat is that he not only had T corn Robina, but he also had Angela
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And that makes three of seven right?
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Leah too. Where's Robina can exactly and that's and that's exactly what I was gonna say
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_00]: which is that Robina does not have the Angela connection that chemo does and
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Leah was never like a huge fan of Robina either
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think she has a much harder time getting those votes and then for what it's worth Leah
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Robina also never had the Quinn connection
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You know like he was kind of annoyed when she tried to give him the jury duty bracelet, you know like
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas on his way out. He was like chemo. You're a special person. I love you. I hope you win this game
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: is so
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are three right to Angela her goodbye message. Oh
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: No
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It was not good to her and it was like
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Sad to see you go. I know you wanted to be here, but we all want to be here and we all deserve to be here
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about that so have fun in jury
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone honestly I heard it was terrible. I was expecting worse, but it's certainly bad
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't do it justice someone on Twitter said they
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They need to do a deep dive into Robina's jury management
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_01]: parentheses negative
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Because because there's no like she's making the bad jury management out of thin air like she's not betraying people
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: She's just forcing the issue the one like MJ
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Robina I think is a little bit interesting. I think Robina still gets her two votes
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And then are there people who are anti MJ votes? It feels like MJ got Leah back for what it's worth
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_01]: There's last couple days. Yeah Quinn
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn I think was annoyed at MJ's dumb move, but if she gets to the end the move doesn't seem as dumb
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I think if she gets to the end without camera Chelsea
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn says I give it up. You chose the right path, you know, okay?
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if a rubina cuts Chelsea if you're being is the one to cut Chelsea
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's definitely a different story and that is probably the only way it happens. So that yeah, that's good point
[00:21:30] I
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Mean the thing is though that like
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And you you actually might have some inset on this but like
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because because a lot we talked a lot about like it should matter whether Jag takes Matt or
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Matt takes Jack right like in other seasons of the show
[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's been like well if John takes net out or net it takes John
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_00]: We're giving it to whoever takes the other one because they're stupid
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But but you guys seem to like not care at all who if he was taken or if he was cut or whatever
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the math of our season was very confusing in that regard because
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: When it came to Matt vs. Jag
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: In the house Matt thought he would beat Jag and Jag thought he would lose to Matt
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So with that knowledge Jag taking Matt is super dumb and Matt taking Jag is fine
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he has a good feeling he beat him anyways in the jury house
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: We all knew for the most part Jag would beat Matt
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Mmm, and we knew Matt would lose to Jag
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So we thought reverse to the way they thought if Jag came to the final two and said I think I'm gonna lose to Matt
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Again final two. Does it actually change things? Probably not but for us
[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Jag could take whoever he wants because he's gonna get the votes because that was the perception
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt taking Jag would have been Cody taking there
[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's interesting so
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean I would think you would assume and the but this jury is complicated too because I would imagine
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That you know Rubina if she's there is not gonna be seen as a Bowie Jane
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like obviously never gonna win because she does have to guaranteed votes on the jury. So like I
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't even know if you think like oh well, it's obvious you cut Rubina or you know, I
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. I feel like you've got to say you've got to cut Chelsea though
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So if it's like if anybody brings Chelsea, I feel like they're I mean Chelsea's there anyway
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But that but like I guess the question is does it matter who cuts?
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Chelsea enough like if you are thinking hey, I think MJ can win but only if she's not there with Chelsea
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Then Chelsea shows up at the final three
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Does it really matter to you if she goes? Yeah, Rubina cut me because I think in your head
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: You're probably thinking well MJ might have also cut her we don't know I
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Think you can almost like commandeer that move though in the in the final three
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if Rubina cuts Chelsea MJ could then make the argument of like God or it's MJ
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she's going to do that
[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of that does come down to how you frame it and also it comes down to who's in the jury
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think Leah is doing this flow chart in her head of like if this person cuts this first
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't think that part of it really matters
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's such a rush on finale day and honestly everyone in jury is just thinking about getting their phones back
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we I can't express like I cared a lot about the sanctity of the game and casting my vote
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And also I didn't care that much on finale night because I want to leave
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: so I think like I
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't think of any one's vote changes based on speeches. That's a very common thing so then this season honestly
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think like it's almost overstated how many votes would change based on these different final three outcomes
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: What I will say is cutting Chelsea might be a game-winning move for anybody if cam puts Chelsea if MJ cuts Chelsea
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: If Rubina cuts Chelsea, even if they would have lost against the other person, maybe that tells the odds of their fate
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So all right. Well anything else Corey
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's it. Oh MJ made a cake and then she didn't have enough space to finish her writing on the cake
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So she had to make it again
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Classic. What do you think?
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: What do I think about the cake? Yeah, give me your thoughts. It's dive into it. I'm not really a cake guy
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, yeah, and it shows
[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: it does
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, well, that's of course what we have for you today
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I will be back tomorrow morning at 11 a Eastern top day
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know everything happens today in the Big Brother 26 life
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Including if anything ever happens with chemo
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The the comics were released there's no episode tonight, but we'll see them tomorrow
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll go over all of the comics
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: After the episode and the recap I'm sure
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: better in time to do that there and
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, again, no no episode tonight
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So I will be I plan to be live at least for survivor tonight over on twitch if you want to come and hang out with me
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: over there
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And in the meantime stay tuned for tomorrow night's recap two hours of Big Brother catching up from the lack of episode tonight, I suppose
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The circle finale just dropped today. So we've covered for that as well
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Fun stuff there. Well, it's easy. Good season at circle
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Cory, what are you going on?
[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Stream on twitch.tv slash Cory Wharton burger patreon.com slash America Corey
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We're doing the Big Brother 7 rewatch season 6 just won a fourth atuation arrow
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if they're gonna target floaters again
[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and finally I've got my
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Big Brother 26 finale event in Nashville meet Bowie in America. We got about 20 tickets left
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're in the area, then the best place to go is Bowie social media. You'll find all those links over there
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_00]: All right. Well, that's it then thank you all so much for joining us here today
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And I will see all of you
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: next time