Today, Taran and Cory Wurtenberger recap the live feeds from day 22 of Big Brother 26.[00:00:00] Every Morning, Terry Armstrong, Toxic Brother, looking at the stuff from yesterday. All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from V.O. to H.O.H.
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[00:00:43] Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for August 7th. I'm your host Aaron Armstrong and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday on the Big Brother 26 live feeds.
[00:00:58] It was day 22 in the house and it was the awaited fallout day from Tucker's shenanigans. What is going to come of it? Who is going to align? What is going to happen with this vote?
[00:01:14] Those were the questions on everyone's mind today and the answer that we got was there was a very long hug that happened. There was also some other stuff but a bit of a slower day. And with me to talk about the slower day is Cory.
[00:01:34] I'm the harbinger of bad feeds. They threw an earthquake at the house guests to ensure that not an ounce of strategy was talked. Maybe an ounce or two. I'm honestly disheartened, Aaron.
[00:01:44] Last week we talked all about this group of five that's going to form. It's the Visionaries plus Robina and Tucker. Obviously Quinn would be there. Talking about it's an inevitability that this group is going to form.
[00:01:56] So whatever we talk about today probably won't happen either but you know I'm optimistic. Instead the collective has become the biggest and strongest alive. And we were clowning Joseph. What an idiot. Trying to will the collective into existence.
[00:02:13] There's always one and everyone always clowns the one but it kind of works. It just kind of works. Well in a house of passive players if you're the one active person you've got a lot of power. I think that's Joseph Sparrow.
[00:02:28] Exactly. So of course we pull up the graphic here. Cedric is the H.O.H. He nominated Angela Kenny and Tucker. Tucker then won the veto came up with a plan to not use the veto on himself and instead use it on Angela.
[00:02:44] He was told not to by Cedric but according to him he was not told not to and so he went ahead to use the veto on Angela. Quinn did not go up as per Tucker's plan instead MJ went on the block who then used her power.
[00:02:57] Now America will be nominating the third nominee and that vote will I imagine open up tonight after the episode.
[00:03:07] And in the meantime Quinn's power has been exposed. Tucker has declared war on Cedric and there's still some back and forth between who should leave between Tucker and Kenny and if Kenny is going to leave what they do with Tucker.
[00:03:24] Do they align with him? Do they work with him? If Quinn does end up on the block via America do we vote him out?
[00:03:30] How do we deal with his power and the fact that he lied to us and that he has a million final twos that were exposed? So many questions and not a lot of answers yet but that is how we set up the day here today.
[00:03:43] As a Quinn fan it's a very terrifying set of live feeds to watch because every conversation that T-Core has, that Kimo has, even that Cam has you're like if he loses one more vote it could very well be over.
[00:03:57] And he hasn't seemingly lost them yet but he's definitely not securing the votes but he's not even on the block yet. It's a very terrifying experience for the Quinnians out there and I assume it's going to stay that way up until the eviction is over.
[00:04:12] Well we started the day with one of those bad scenarios for the Quinnians I suppose. Which is that Leah is still just like pissed at Quinn.
[00:04:24] She has gone from a Quinnian herself to he gives me the ick, I hate him, get him away from me, I would love to vote him out.
[00:04:35] And she is spreading to everyone that she can that Quinn made a final two with her, that he's a manipulator and that he should go.
[00:04:45] Yeah I have two minds of this. If Leah feels uncomfortable by anything that Quinn is doing that is well within her rights to talk about.
[00:04:53] On the other hand Leah does do this pretty often where she has people who want to work with her and she makes it her mission to trash them around the entire house.
[00:05:02] First it was Quinn which made some sort of sense, Quinn has a lot of details going on. Then it was Cam, okay well Cam has a crush on her she doesn't like him.
[00:05:09] Then it's MJ and now I'm starting to think Leah has this talent for picking the exact wrong people to trash throughout the house. And it's destroying her game but she doesn't seem to know that.
[00:05:23] Quinn has not yet found out how anti him she is but given that he is a likely candidate for HOH next week assuming he doesn't leave. I have to imagine that there's a bus coming for Leah that somebody might be driving.
[00:05:48] She does talk to Tucker about Quinn, she also talks to Rubina about Quinn. Rubina who was one of the people that had initially been kind of like eugh about Quinn and lying about his power.
[00:06:02] She had recently made a final two with Quinn. It was barely a real final two though it was literally in passing like hey final two yeah okay.
[00:06:11] And more than that it was the idea that he is like in the bedroom with the women that he chose that bedroom. And she feels like he was trying to spy on them as part of his game.
[00:06:25] And so they talked and things were seemingly going decently well but now after hearing what Leah has to say she's kind of like back on board the anti Quinn train as well. Which is definitely not a good thing for Quinn if he does end up on the block.
[00:06:41] Now we were doing the math of this and I'm like okay well Quinn still would have all these votes. I counted Rubina and Leah as Quinn votes. Now they're not. So this theoretical like 8 to 3 vote is now like 6 to 5 and it's one away so it's not good.
[00:07:00] Yeah. So Rubina does talk to Ticor about this. Ticor is also still a little skeptical of Quinn. She's not too concerned about the power but all of this talk of his various final twos does have her concerned.
[00:07:15] And Rubina is trying to press on that and encourage Ticor to work with Tucker. That hey we should align with Tucker. I think that there's like a group of us that we can pull together that includes Tucker.
[00:07:31] It's essentially what the Visionary Alliance would have been had they actually done anything and not been ratted out by Joseph, Tucker and a million other people. But subtract Quinn from it basically. Let's get Tucker, Yumi, Kimo and maybe a couple other people.
[00:07:50] We'll maybe think about starting to solidify something along those lines. It's aggravating because it shows how much like game ability Tucker has because everyone wants to work with him. Like he has an army behind him. He did a great job with Kimo which we'll talk about later.
[00:08:07] Ticor is a little bit more hesitant. I think Ticor is a person who likes a calmer energy, a calmer house and Tucker is the exact opposite of that.
[00:08:15] I know she said Tucker was like intimidating was kind of one of his plans which seems accurate from what I've seen. I don't see this group forming. The main point I realized in this conversation is why is Rubina dying on this hill right now?
[00:08:30] It doesn't make that much sense to me. Obviously having a big physical guy as a close ally is a huge asset. But I really don't like the direction her game is heading. She felt personally slighted by Quinn hiding this power and was making Quinn apologize to her.
[00:08:46] I'm not the biggest fan but there is seemingly enough people on her side where it's not like she's in this tiny minority. Yeah, you know it can be a lot to ask of players sometimes because like I do.
[00:09:01] I don't think that Rubina should just turn her back on Tucker and just be like yeah screw Tucker he should leave.
[00:09:07] Because Tucker is definitely an asset to her game not in the sense that he's helping her socially but in the sense that him being there is a huge boon for her strategically.
[00:09:18] He really only benefits people like Rubina. I do think he would be an anchor to Kimo and T-Core. Granted they need something but I don't think Tucker is the something because I think Tucker could turn on literally anybody.
[00:09:33] Even Rubina but hopefully not Rubina. Rubina is maybe the one person that it might not happen to. But like ideally I think for Rubina she's able to distance herself socially from Tucker and not be so active in trying to pull groups in with him.
[00:09:52] There's a little bit of a thing later that actually I think would be beneficial to her if there was an alliance with Tucker that formed without her. I think that would be perfect for Rubina because it helps keep Tucker safe and she has nothing to do with it.
[00:10:05] That's exactly where I think she wants to be weirdly. But I think that's kind of a hard ask sometimes because it's like the reason she's good with Tucker is because she gets along really well with him.
[00:10:17] And it's hard to like your personal sort of agenda and desires conflicting with what you should be doing strategically is sometimes hard to manage.
[00:10:28] And so I do think that she's pushing a little hard here but at the same time it's like you know it might just not be in the cards to try to pull off something a little more polar opposite juxtaposition-y kind of deal.
[00:10:44] Again like I think there's two paths for Rubina. It's back Tucker. Tucker has a good chance of staying either by the vote against Kenny definitely even against Quinn he has a shot.
[00:10:55] Or just the AI arena and all of a sudden she's got this little group together that's good and now the collective forms back she needs that group. The other hand is Tucker gets voted out Rubina gets to move on. That association is just going to be gone.
[00:11:07] So like she's fine. I just don't like I feel like I've seen a lack of flexibility that just feels like a bad omen. Maybe I'm overreacting.
[00:11:16] I mean honestly the bigger thing for me is it's just this amount of like well maybe we'll do this thing. Let's keep talking about it.
[00:11:25] Like that's what burned you last time and they're still doing this. They're going to talk about being in an alliance until day 50 when they get evicted.
[00:11:35] It's just like it's ridiculous. Speaking of there is more talk about Tucker maybe forming an alliance with people like MJ, Brooklyn, Chelsea, Cam, Rubina.
[00:11:48] He's talking about these people that he still thinks he has a good relationship with that he can potentially work with and like I'm losing my mind because this season like okay. Big Brother 3 we introduce the first successful secret alliance. It changes the game forever when alliances are secret.
[00:12:09] You can't do anything about them because you don't know that they exist. It's a fundamental part of Big Brother strategy this season. Nothing is secret, but they're still not doing anything about it. It's ridiculous to Tucker knows about the collective.
[00:12:26] He knows that many of the people he is talking about pulling into an alliance are in the collective that Joseph told him about. And he's still like yeah let's pull in Chelsea, let's pull in Cam, let's pull in Brooklyn.
[00:12:40] Like what do you mean? How do you see this working? I don't understand. The problem is Taren the collective is eight people. Like what group can you form outside of it? You're like okay I'm going to pull in Kenny, I'm going to pull in Angela.
[00:12:55] When you're calling a house meeting and you're saying Quinn has the power you also say and he's also in an eight person alliance called the collective that has a bunch of people in it. Everyone outside of it should probably bed together a little bit. Excuse me.
[00:13:09] You're fighting the most losing battle of all time trying to give Tucker strategic advice. This is not going to happen. You out the collective and then Joseph's pissed at you and you're going to lose like any potential vote. Eh maybe you still get.
[00:13:21] He's already lost the war. T-Core and Kimo. The collective is already on that side. I mean you're convincing me. I just. A different player maybe. Yeah. It's just wild. Again it just feels like it's wild to me when it feels like this happens so often.
[00:13:40] That it's like there's this piece of information that's out there. And it's it's like the players forgot about it. It's it's like they're Danny just forgetting about the Iron Fleet.
[00:13:51] Like it's just like how is this possible that like Tucker has just forgotten about the collective in the same way that T-Core and Kimo seem to consistently just forget about the Pentagon which we'll talk about later tonight.
[00:14:05] It's just it's wild. Anyway. For the exact reasons I'm laying out which is that they're including people like Chelsea in this group. And I don't blame MJ MJ nearly as much for this because Chelsea has done a very good job of pulling an MJ and marinating her.
[00:14:24] Tucker should know better though. But but MJ talks to Chelsea about this potential new alliance. And she's like I actually kind of like this this idea. Me you Brooklyn maybe Cam.
[00:14:36] Like there's some there's some things we can do here. Rubina though. I don't think so. Also let's not let's not include Leah. This MJ Leah saga is infuriating. Both of them were like locked in a duo. Everyone perceived them that way.
[00:14:56] And it feels like overnight they hate each other. And I can't understand why. Who knows. They've honestly they've been hot and cold from day one night. One of the feeds MJ was like I know Leah ratted me out to Angela.
[00:15:12] So I think there's always been a little bit of something going on there. But so MJ is like let's cut Rubina. Let's not include Leah. Let's just make a good core of me you Brooklyn Cam Tucker.
[00:15:30] Like that's a good that's a pretty good squad right there. And and Chelsea is just like why do people keep inviting me to this. So stupid of them. Well here's the thing about MJ. I'm really low on MJ's game in general.
[00:15:44] I feel like she had a four weeks of safety that she's shortened to three weeks. She hasn't made any lasting bonds outside of maybe Chelsea but Chelsea doesn't care about her. She lost. There's a lot of bad. She's trying really hard.
[00:15:55] She's actively trying to put groups together and better her possession position. And I do appreciate that. I do think she'll be on the block next week. I do think she's very subject to the wrong arena outcome the wrong veto outcome and she can go home.
[00:16:11] But this group just makes like no sense. It's I think what happens with all these people outside of the Pentagon outside of the three C's the collective. They just don't see the bonds existing as they are.
[00:16:23] They all see like Chelsea and Cam together but they're kind of forgetting about the Cedric piece. They think none of them are strategizing with Quinn. It's just they've got this like massive. Maybe it's just the perspective of former player. It's so hard to play without information.
[00:16:38] And once you have that information it's so easy. And McKenzie should be our. Tucker. Stop bringing up Tucker. OK he is not. He's the exception. OK. Maybe you got me there but again like I don't blame MJ as much because she's been in the dark.
[00:16:58] Yes. Since day one. But I like the fight. I honestly I almost feel like and maybe I'm being maybe I'm being too generous here but I feel like if MJ had the information that Tucker Joseph T-Core chemo all of them had.
[00:17:14] I think she'd be a lot more effective. I think that she would know what to do. But she doesn't doesn't more effective. Sure. But she almost didn't use the power on herself.
[00:17:24] Yeah. Yeah. There's not like I think here's the thing when you're in a bad position I have less expectations. So I'm almost hoping McKenzie stays in a bad position. I'm going to be a lot less harsh on my criticism whereas chemo and T-Core like.
[00:17:39] Come on. All right. So. Chelsea talks to T-Core. She's like hey so they're trying to make this alliance. And and you know like there's stuff going on. I might as well say yes to it right.
[00:17:59] Like T-Core maybe you could get involved like we just say yeah we just want to stay on Tucker's good side. We might as well say yes. We can be maybe like the two of us with Brooklyn Tucker and Cam.
[00:18:11] We don't have to actually include MJ. They want to like again be good with Tucker. That's really the main purpose here. But they also don't want Tucker to stick around forever.
[00:18:25] But like you have to understand there is a perspective in the house that Tucker is unevictable because he crushed the arena last week. He won the veto competition this week. And even though he didn't use the veto on himself.
[00:18:42] They're all pretty much just assuming he's going to crush the arena competition this week.
[00:18:49] And so they're just kind of like well we might as well be in good with him because we're not going to be able to evict him because we do still want to evict Kenny first.
[00:19:00] We want to get that guy out of here. So we might as well be good with him. But we do still want to protect Cedric like Cedric. He really stood up for us.
[00:19:09] He you know he really was loyal. We don't want Cedric to be a casualty of Tucker. But we do want to I mean we want to be good with that.
[00:19:20] That's why I'm extremely high on Cedric's game honestly like he was put in a horribly difficult position this week where he had to pick one of two options because Tucker made it like if you don't pick my side you are the enemy.
[00:19:31] But everyone who he did side with is like fully backing him and I don't see any danger of him. If he touches the block I think he's fine. First of all he has the veto and the arena.
[00:19:42] I think he stays against almost anybody if he's up against Brooklyn or Chelsea maybe but I don't see that happening. So I'm very high on Cedric and what people's like fear about Tucker they're not wrong.
[00:19:54] And it's like a danger that when we talk about inequitable comps I think people often like simplify it to oh they can just win their way to the end. That's not the problem with those comps.
[00:20:04] The problem is those people have like an indiscriminate or like a disproportionate like power in the game that everyone else has to deal with. You have to put way more attention into Jag than you do Felicia.
[00:20:17] You need to worry more about Tucker than T-Core even though T-Core is a far superior player than Tucker. And I think Tucker's reached that point already through two competitions because these last few have not been the most equitable.
[00:20:29] Tucker's already become like he has a much higher margin of error than everybody else because you've got to be good with Tucker in the way you don't have to be good with everyone else on the cast.
[00:20:38] 100 percent. And like you see you see that in a smaller dose with what happened with Quinn this week. Because Quinn had the power of being H-O-H next week Cedric had to deal with Quinn in a way that he wouldn't have otherwise.
[00:20:52] If Quinn doesn't have that power there's a good chance he's up on the block. And now to be fair to Quinn if he doesn't have the power he's also probably not in trouble to go up on the block.
[00:21:01] So I'm not going to like be like oh he was saved by a twist because he was also in trouble by a twist.
[00:21:06] But what I will say is that that power is what prevented Cedric from making that move for the most part because he knew that Quinn was coming into power soon.
[00:21:16] Somebody like let's say Tucker or let's say Jag who you can pretty much just assume is going to win at least one competition per week on average and has a very high chance of winning multiple H-O-Hs.
[00:21:33] That's like you're dealing with a Quinn with that power every single week for the rest of the game. So that amount of leeway that Cedric had to give Quinn is happening constantly with players like Tucker, like Jag, like Jackson, you know like Cody.
[00:21:54] You have to just be so overly concerned about them they have so so much power. It is like they have a twist that gives them a you know flip a coin you win a competition power like every single competition.
[00:22:10] Well Jag, Jackson and Cody did not have the AI arena so that's like a whole nother bag that Tucker has. And that's a one in three chance and you're probably competing against like Angela. So like it's that's another element of it.
[00:22:23] I think Tucker might also have this like aura at this point where he volunteers for the block, wins the veto, doesn't use it on himself. If he wins the AI arena, he might become like a messiah in the house.
[00:22:36] Like he really is just like this enigma like what do you do with this guy? But but here's the thing. He's impossible to get out of the house. But they've got two shots, two clean shots. They have he's on the block now. He can lose the AI arena.
[00:22:51] They vote him out next week. Like if you're gonna do it, now is the time. If he makes it to week I guess it would be what week five. Then might start like raising the stock watch score solely for the winning out factor. Online shop. Programming or design.
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[00:23:51] Shopify punkish rich rich tribe is often. I'm fashionable people. I'm getting made for Germany. By Shopify. Well, T-Core lets Rubina know about this whole pitched alliance from MJ that MJ wants this Tucker Alliance thing, but she wants to cut Rubina out of it.
[00:24:14] And Rubina is like, excuse me. That is my showmans that you're talking about. She's like, well, I hope that Tucker tells me about that.
[00:24:24] Like it would really suck if he did not tell me that this is the play, but she doesn't want to like go and ask him about it necessarily. She wants to see if he'll come her about it.
[00:24:35] And quite frankly, I don't think he even knows about that part of it yet. So that's going to be a bit of an issue.
[00:24:41] But but but really this is like this whole saga in the beginning of the day where like this Alliance kind of like comes into fruition. It's shifted around. It's exposed, then gets more exposed, then gets like then people are mad about it.
[00:24:57] And then basically the entire house like by like midday. I think the bad apple and there's a couple of bad apples. Chelsea's a bad apple to its Tucker. Stop including Tucker in your alliance. Like it's not it's so over. He was the whole point.
[00:25:12] To make Tucker feel comfortable. I think everyone should feel comfortable about Tucker, except for Cedric Quinn and some third party. You know what I mean? Like we know where he's headed right now, but we also don't because it's Tucker.
[00:25:24] He might change his mind and put up Kimo, Leah and Rubina for all we know. So I guess that's the insecurity. It feels safer to just like be ignored by Tucker.
[00:25:34] Like the closer you are with him, the more danger it's he's almost like he's a little got a little bit of spicy V in him, I think. Where it's like it's safer to just be like away from his awareness entirely. Like, for instance, chemo.
[00:25:50] The move might be to have a crush on Tucker. It is. That's the only way that didn't work for Leah, though. OK, a 66 percent, 100 percent of the time, two thirds of the time you're safe from Tucker. So speaking of chemo.
[00:26:06] I just want to set the stage a little bit here. Kimo and Tucker. Have probably talked like three times in the last two weeks, and one of those times was Kimo telling Tucker about Quinn's power.
[00:26:21] So I want you to keep that in mind in preparation for this conversation where Kimo he's having a bit of a rough day. Having a bit of a rough day. Having a bit of a rough day. He's going to ask he's in the back bedroom.
[00:26:37] He's going to ask Tucker like, hey, do you trust me? And I was like, yeah, of course. I was like, I know we don't. Well, regardless of how much we talk. I super. And he gets up. And he gives Kimo a big hug.
[00:26:58] And he keeps giving him a hug and the camera goes tight in on Kimo's face. And he's like. And then. Tears. Start falling from Kimo's eyes. The hug keeps going. The hug keeps going. And then, uh oh, Cam walks in. Hi, Cam. And the hug keeps going.
[00:27:30] And Cam. Doesn't leave. Hug keeps going. Tears rolling down Kimo's face. Cam's like, yeah, I'm cool to be in here. He walks over and I'm like, OK, he's just grabbing something. He's just grabbing something. He's going to leave. Hug keeps going. No, he's not just grabbing something.
[00:27:51] He leans back against the dressers in front of the bed where they're hugging. And he's like, what's up? And they're still in the middle of their dramatic hug. It's it keeps going. Uh, and it's like, oh, man, awkward. No, this isn't awkward. You don't see through this.
[00:28:13] Clearly, Tucker was called into the DR, was chosen as America's player. He has to have a 10 second plus hug with Kimo. Here's my theory about Tucker. I think Tucker, without the ability to speak, is a top five player of all time.
[00:28:31] If he just goes in there, gives hugs, looks the way he does and wins competitions. He's an unstoppable force. Fair. Yeah, maybe one day. Well, he does speak at the end of the hug. He says, you know, we're going to we're going to hang out West Hollywood.
[00:28:50] We're going to tear it up metaphorically and physically. I've been the bully. I've been bullied. Kimo's like, oh, whoa. I don't think Kimo tears it up very often. And I think, listen, I told you they've talked like three times in two weeks.
[00:29:09] That one time is going to last a few more weeks. That's all he needed. It was like eight words exchanged in this conversation. And then Quinty Core and Kimo have like hundreds later in the day. Those eight words might have been more effective. Easily. Uh, OK.
[00:29:25] Speaking of when it does have a bit of a camera talk. Uh, he's got some plans. He says he wants to make a final two with Brooklyn. Um, which on one hand is at this point a good idea. On the other hand.
[00:29:41] He has just been exposed for having multiple final two. So maybe not the best timing. Um, he sees that Rubina is still mad at him now. So he's very concerned about that. Uh, he realizes it was probably a bad move to not have a final two.
[00:29:56] Uh, once it was pretty clear that it was probably going to get out. Um, and he also was like, I haven't really checked in with T-Core and Kimo. I should probably do that. To which I was like, yeah, yeah, you probably should.
[00:30:08] And I think it's like a little bit difficult to judge when too hard on that point. Specifically, like you got to check in with your allies. That's important. I feel like us outside are more confident he's going to be on the block than he is.
[00:30:22] Obviously, I think he's aware of the possibility that he's going to be on the block. And he is obviously like, I think he's aware of the possibility that he could be nominated. But he doesn't see the reaction, the edited show, any of that.
[00:30:31] I would say to future house guys when it comes to cam talks, they're awesome. Just hope you're right. Because when you're not right in the cam talks, it's kind of brutal to listen to. Like he was he has this master plan. He's like, I'm going to test Leah.
[00:30:45] I'm going to tell her is McKenzie targeting me. And based on that, the whole game will shift. I'm like, I don't like it does it. I don't think this matters, Quinn. It's good that you're targeting Leah potentially.
[00:30:56] But this whole cam talk, like I appreciate players who are able to acknowledge their own flaws. And I think he is right when part of his complaint is like, I couldn't have counted on a Tucker being in the house, which is true.
[00:31:09] With all Quinn's mistakes, the circumstances of this week are ridiculous for him to be in the position that he's in. But he's he's like self-aware to a certain extent.
[00:31:19] He just I think he's aware of the problems with his game, but he's very optimistic, which I think is a better thing than being down in the dumps.
[00:31:29] Yeah, the the secret of cam talks that we don't like to talk about is that like 90 percent of the time it makes you look like an idiot. But we love them. Don't not do them. Do them all the time, please.
[00:31:42] So Quinn does check in with Teeqour and Kimo. He says he does think he might be on the block, and that's obviously a little concerning. They let him know about MJ's new alliance thing, and they talk a little more. It's honestly it's kind of an awkward conversation.
[00:32:07] Kimo's vibe is off. Teeqour is barely talking. And, you know, they're just kind of like talking through what Teeqour and Kimo want to do in this conversation is like ask Quinn about his final twos and be like, are you act like what's going on with that?
[00:32:24] Are you actually still good? And neither of them are really like big confrontation people, so they don't. Instead, Quinn does a lot of the talking. And in doing so, he accidentally name drops the Pentagon. And he goes, oh, I thought it was the Andersons.
[00:32:43] You know, that's a different one. The Pentagon is the one in the collective. But also, you didn't hear that. Please forget what the name I just said. So annoying. OK, if you actually leak the alliance, go all in. Say the Pentagon includes these five people.
[00:33:00] I want to tell you guys because of this. He goes, oh, shoot, the Pentagon's going to be so mad at me. It's like, no, like they don't want you to be loyal to the Pentagon. This conversation is brutal. So there's a couple of weird dynamics at play.
[00:33:14] Teeqour and Kimo are kind of beefing a little bit like they're getting back together. It seems I'm not worried long term for them, but there's like that odd element. I think both of them need to just get over it because Kimo was a bad ally to Teeqour.
[00:33:25] Teeqour still needs Kimo. Like, you also fix that. And then with Quinn, I really think at this point in the game, Quinn is most loyal to them. But he can't communicate it without them thinking he's lying to them
[00:33:39] because he has all these connections and they won't clarify with him. Like, this is the problem with these two players, Kimo and Teeqour. Neither of them are active enough. I thought Teeqour was getting there. But this week, she's kind of just like pumped the brakes entirely.
[00:33:52] Maybe it's because of a centric HOH, but that doesn't seem like the worst thing for her. Maybe it's just because Tucker has done what Tucker has done. I have went from last podcast we talked about, it's a matter of time until this group forms. This group won't form.
[00:34:07] I am confident now they're on the fringes of the collective and hopefully they get kind of dragged far enough to the point where they can win an HOH and make a move. It seems like Teeqour consistently knows what she should be doing
[00:34:19] and talks about it to Kimo and the cameras. But then never actually does it. Is my biggest problem. I wouldn't say never, but consistently is like not doing. Yeah, it reminds me of Mimi a bit. I think the benefit I give Teeqour versus Mimi is
[00:34:40] Sari's not running the power structures. Teeqour actually does have the ability to like, I think she's one of the stronger players in the house. So when she decides to make a move and get more active, I think she stands a fighting chance.
[00:34:52] There's not like this massive uphill battle she has to do. It's just weird. Like it felt like she was going last week and this week she stopped. And my thought was kind of, well, OK, everyone's being chaotic this week. Teeqour is just maintaining her position.
[00:35:06] I don't think she's improving her game, but everyone else around her is destroying their games. So maybe it's OK. But what concerns me is like that conversation with Rubino was a lot less awkward than our conversation with Kimo. And it's like that's a direction she could head.
[00:35:22] I think she should be playing the middle. She's got to fix it with Kimo. It's very frustrating to me. Yeah, she does talk to Kimo after this conversation with Quinn. They both agree like we just need to be more direct with Quinn
[00:35:37] and ask him about those final twos. And and like, yeah, they should, because Quinn is still a major asset for them. They shouldn't trust Quinn. But they should be using Quinn to the fullest potential, because right now they're letting the Pentagon
[00:35:55] and the collective use Quinn when they should be using Quinn. They should be talking to Quinn about his power and what he should do with it and how it can benefit them. Because I think he would listen to them more
[00:36:06] than he would listen to the collective or listen to the Pentagon. And he kind of needs to know that these final twos have been leaking. And you telling him and confronting him about it would help him find out that these final twos are leaking.
[00:36:19] And that, I think, only benefits you at this moment. He would deny them. Like we've seen this before, like he is so lucky to have her out of the power in that ceremony because he'd be denying it to this day if it didn't.
[00:36:33] So like unless Kimo has like real dirt on him, like, hey, you have a final two with Cedric, quality control, right? Like then you might get Quinn to be like, oh, yeah, that thing. I'm almost happy for Quinn that they didn't confront him
[00:36:46] because I think he probably would have denied it for a while. Yeah. I they do think that that he's still workable. They just they do need to talk to him about this final twos. And it is just concerning that he's very clearly
[00:37:06] trying to set himself up in the game. He's just he's just too obvious. Like it's he's such an interesting player because he's got such a great social game. Like people love Quinn, but his strategy, while like the basics are there,
[00:37:27] it's just so misguided in terms of like how he like how he I guess. OK. I think his strategy is pretty decent. His social game is really good. But he is terrible at combining the two because the second he starts talking strategy with people,
[00:37:45] he's leaking the wrong information to the wrong people and the right information to the wrong people and the wrong information to the right people. And and he's just so all over the place. And so he has this conversation with Teeqo and Kima,
[00:37:57] and he's like, yeah, so, you know, we can probably pull in Brooklyn and Joseph because I'm close with them and then we can work with them. And then we can probably drag Leah to jury and work with the collective. And then and it's just like Teeqo is like,
[00:38:12] I can see right through this. Like you are setting yourself up in this group. You have the Pentagon. You have the collective. You're trying to pull Leah because you don't realize yet that she hates you. You're just trying to set yourself up.
[00:38:25] And I'm not just going to listen to you blindly and follow your lead on this. I'm going to want I'm going to want to set myself up. Now, she says this. Will she actually do those things? I hope so. But I'm not seeing the evidence for it yet.
[00:38:38] But like, she's still seeing right through it. And and she's frustrated with that. Luckily for him, she's even more frustrated with Tucker and the way that he operates. She does not like that. He uses intimidation to form alliances and try to work with people.
[00:38:51] And and she's very, very pro Cedric over Tucker. So it's not like she's really seriously considering choosing Tucker over Quinn at this point. But she's still very skeptical of Quinn. It's really concerning for Quinn. Once you get that stink on you, that you're the rat strategist,
[00:39:09] it's almost impossible to get off of you. I think Dan was one of the only people who was able to do it. And I don't know when is Dan upside just yet. And like it gets to a point where you start telling the truth
[00:39:19] and people assume it's a lie. He does want to work with Kimo and T-Core, and they don't believe him. I think Joseph and Quinn have almost switched places in that people are still suspicious of Joseph. But I think they view him as a lot more harmless than Quinn.
[00:39:31] It gets to a point with Quinn where it's like you have too many enemies. I found myself in this position. You got to get rid of Matt, Jack, Blue, Cameron and Felicia. You only have one H-O-H. Quinn is going to have an H-O-H.
[00:39:43] He's going to get one of Tucker, Kenny, Angela, MJ, Lee. He's going to get one person out. Then there's going to be four left and someone's going to win H-O-H and target him. Too many enemies. And at this point, I think his best asset in the game.
[00:39:56] And this is very sad. Is Joseph. Yeah. Congratulations. I think they actually do connect pretty well. But Joseph all of a sudden finds himself kind of in like. I don't know. People are a little too high on Joseph, too. He has like no personal connections in the house.
[00:40:18] Yeah. I mean, I think like Joseph has been on the rise. But that's because he was pretty low before. He's certainly not like in the mix of things quite yet. So, you know, we'll I'll stay skeptical for now. But. Decor does talk to Cedric.
[00:40:35] It has a very good conversation with him. She asks him who he thinks he can trust. He does mention that he's he does think he can still trust Quinn for now because of what happened. But he is still a little late.
[00:40:48] And he wishes he talked more game with chemo because he basically never talks chemo because chemo doesn't talk to anybody. But he says he trusts chemo, but he wishes he's talking more game with him, which is his way of saying he doesn't.
[00:41:01] And then she mentions Quinn in the final twos. But but that even if he did do all of this stuff at this point, because he was exposed, he has no choice but to work with the collective now. So for that reason, they can probably still trust.
[00:41:18] But for this or Terry, for these people in the Pentagon, do you think they trust Quinn as much as they're saying, or do you think this is he's the next H.O.H.? I'm never going to badmouth him. I think Chelsea and Brooklyn trust him still. Chelsea, because.
[00:41:36] You know, I don't think she ever was like like Chelsea was, I think in Chelsea's mind, it's it's her Cedric and Brooklyn. And then Quinn and Cam were always on the outs, and she's more concerned about Cam than Quinn.
[00:41:49] And I don't think any of that changed for her. For Brooklyn, I think that she feels like it's her Chelsea and Quinn. And even though they don't talk a ton together, she does see him in like a similar position.
[00:42:07] She's also a fan of the game and is like very unconcerned about Quinn playing the game. She knows she's playing the game, too. And I think that she fully doesn't care about any of it and would perfectly be perfectly happy to accept Final Two with him
[00:42:22] if and when he proposes one. So I don't think they have lost trust. I do think that Cedric is exactly where he's at. I think he's being completely genuine with T-Core. I think that he does trust Quinn right now because he just did this thing for him.
[00:42:36] It's that like Ben Franklin thing of like when you do somebody a favor, you end up liking them more, even though you're the one that did them a favor. But he is, I think, going to still be a little skeptical moving forward.
[00:42:49] And then Cam is kind of Cam. I think he's still kind of out on Quinn in general. I don't think that he's super fond of Quinn at the moment, but he's not going to like rock the boat or anything.
[00:43:00] Sure. Just to put a button on the T-Core of it all, the more we talk about it, the more I feel good about T-Core's position because she's outside of the Pentagon, which is bad. I think three members of the Pentagon would like her
[00:43:13] to go to like the four with her. You know what I mean? Like if they have a relationship with Cedric and her and Chelsea are super tight, they're not going to prioritize Quinn. Cedric and Cam's a little bit, you know, maybe more complicated.
[00:43:25] I don't think Cedric and Brooklyn are as tight. So like I think she's in the Pentagon without being in the Pentagon. She's not in the same position as Joseph and Kimo. I do agree. I think that I think she's fine for now.
[00:43:40] I think that's, you know, we gave her a six, I think, in the stock watch last night because her position is fine. But she does talk to the cameras later. And basically like the feeling for me is that like she's fine for now.
[00:43:56] And that's almost more concerning to me because I need her to feel like she needs to like have some fire under her because I don't want her to just coast on fine because I don't think that's going to work for her long term.
[00:44:09] It could, but like what I really like, okay. If I felt like T-Core was willing to ride this for now and then like make a move with the information she has out the Pentagon, out Quinnmore, like whatever at the right time and make that power play.
[00:44:30] I'd be like, okay, she's in an okay position here. She's got the tools that she needs to push herself forward when she has the opportunity to. But I'm not sure I see T-Core being that aggressive in the game. And so if she's not going to be that aggressive,
[00:44:45] I need her to start from a higher vantage point so that the coasting lasts longer. If that makes sense. I think it's so important that she keeps Quinn around for that reason of like, and honestly, like a lot of her problems with Quinn don't make sense to me.
[00:45:00] Like she's concerned about him building a resume and as a jury threat. And it's like T-Core one step at a time. We're at the final 14. I know I was talking about the final five at this point, but like, I think T-Core,
[00:45:13] if she's not going to be the active player to take a shot herself, she needs someone who will. And this cast does not have many of them. Quinn, Joseph, Tucker, maybe MJ. It's like there's not many of them. Completely. And I think that Quinn
[00:45:28] is the perfect person for her to ride forward in the game. Like Tucker is too much of a wildcard. Quinn is a very self-interested player who's going to be very active, who's going to be making moves, feeding her information while being a big threat
[00:45:44] and a big target for people. And he's also going to continue to screw up. Like Quinn is not just going to take control of this game and right at the end, he's also not going to comp out.
[00:45:53] Like I really, I do feel like that's a good play for her, but she has to be willing to sort of like see that path. So we'll see. She does say to the camera, she wants a woman to win the season. Or chemo. Yeah, which you know what?
[00:46:11] Good, good on chemo. So that's that was pretty much the day, really. It really not as much fallout from the Tucker stuff as we may have thought so far, at least. I think that there's a lot of like wait and see, especially with this America nomination.
[00:46:28] So for me, it's wait and see what the edit is tonight. There was a sneak peek that showed chemo leaking the Quinn information. And like, it's really like I could see a world and this has been talked about now where chemo is the villain of the episode.
[00:46:47] All it would take is a couple of diary rooms of chemo being like, I have a crush on Tucker. I gave him this information and then like him maybe crying about it in the diary room. Like, oh, I screwed up.
[00:47:01] Like I screwed Quinn over or like, you know, like there's just so many different ways you can villainize anyone and get a casual audience to want to like put them on, punish them for putting whatever. So it's possible. My guess would still be Quinn personally.
[00:47:18] But I really feel like the edit will just will choose at this point. Yeah, it's pretty frustrating. I think especially because of like the way this show is voting works, where it's like Wednesday night episode, the voting ends Thursday. Like it is so top of mind.
[00:47:38] You don't get a couple of days to think about it. Not that casual, I think really would. I tweeted about this people like votes are not raped. Absolutely not. There's too much money at stake that cannot happen.
[00:47:50] But this is not a vote that like the general public decides. Right. The general public is super malleable to what the edited show is. You can look back to several past seasons and look at a lot of different results.
[00:48:04] And this is just how it works out as long as there's no like pre-existing fame or anything. So they could very easily throw Quinn under the bus. That's the easiest option. I think chemo is another option. Pam is a dark horse as someone they can kind of throw
[00:48:18] under the bus here. But everyone's campaigning on Twitter, like protect your piece. I don't think it's doing very much. None of it's going to matter. I was streaming yesterday, Taryn, and someone's like, well, Cam won the R.H.
[00:48:31] A.P. poll or and I'm like, I can't express how little that means, especially pre episode like like this is next to zero. Unfortunately, this is not BBOT where that was very representative of. Oh, God, take me back.
[00:48:48] But look, I think Quinn being up is actually one of the more dramatic options. So that'll be fun based on what he's been talking about. I don't think he'll take it as hard as I maybe previously predicted. Just the fact that this nominee happens Thursday night,
[00:49:03] like what drama are we to get from it? Like I, I think if it was Wednesday night, it would be a crazy day if each Thursday. But that's not the case. Yeah, there were a couple of other quick things. One is that Quinn has been sleepwalking and sleep
[00:49:19] talking in. Honestly, in my opinion, one of the funniest things about Quinn is that he's like, I'm telling the truth in the craziest ways because he's like, like he's sleep talking, being like, I swear I'm telling the truth. I swear. I get it.
[00:49:39] I feel that what I love about Quinn is he puts a smile on when he's so clearly miserable. Like it's that constant word in your head of I'm so miserable. I want to go home and this is the best, like however
[00:49:52] you could kind of see it on Quinn's face, like he's laughing it off, but he also cannot sleep. It's odd. The one other thing I want to talk about, Taryn, I don't know if you want to. You want to talk about MJ? Yeah, that was the other thing.
[00:50:08] Listen, it was a little weird. It's a little weird. MJ talked about her brother and that, you know, I'm not going to cast judgment. We're just going to we're going to bring it up because it's a topic of conversation worth noting if you're
[00:50:28] invested in the Matt MJ showmance, maybe she said her brother is her soulmate and that she's like, man, I wish I didn't have to marry somebody else. She said she had a guy at home. There you go. Here's what I'll say. At least it's not Tucker.
[00:50:50] At least that's not her crush. There was talk last night about how MJ had a crush on Tucker initially. That's what Tucker says. No, well, now that's been deconfirmed and that's that's one silver lining. Yeah, it's a little weird. So that's pretty much it.
[00:51:12] Corey, anything else you want to bring up? No, AI Arena keeps stalling out these Tuesdays. Can't wait for it to end. All right. Well, that is what we have for you all. I will, of course, be back tomorrow morning, 11 a.m.
[00:51:24] Eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the Big Brother 26 live feeds later tonight. I'll be on Twitch, which TV, I'm sure I'll be watching the episode live with all of you. And we'll also be live recapping the episode after the fact
[00:51:41] should be quite a dramatic one. So stay tuned for that. And not only a dramatic episode, but also the episode will basically tell us who is the most likely nominee for Thursday. So the edit of the episode also very important. Of course, tomorrow we'll also have the eviction.
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