Today, Taran and Cory Wurtenberger recap the live feeds from day 15 of Big Brother 26.[00:00:10] Armstrong talk Big Brother looking at the stuff from yesterday. All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from Fido to HOA. Single season, you know he is the reason, you know what's happening. Rob said that he could do it, tomorrow he will do it again.
[00:00:43] Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for July 31st. I'm your host, John Armstrong, and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday on the Big Brother 26 live feeds. It was day 15 in the house and there was some making fun of Lisa. There was some more making fun of Lisa. There was some more making fun of Lisa.
[00:01:12] And also, uh, Kimo talking about some powers. So, uh, planning to talk about yesterday and with me to talk about it all. It's Cory. How you doing Cory?
[00:01:26] I'm doing amazing. I really enjoy the Kimo leaking the power thing because he's doing much less leaking than Angela did, but it's having a much bigger impact.
[00:01:37] Yeah. Yeah. Very, very big energy of like, uh, one person can say, uh, say it a bunch of times and nobody believes them. And then if a different person says it once, it's like, Oh, Oh yeah. It's crazy. If Kimo said that Quinn had nine votes, I think Tucker would believe it.
[00:01:53] Probably. Um, well, uh, let's, let's quickly reset what we, uh, what we have here. Of course, Chelsea is the age of age. She nominated Angela, Kenny and Lisa, but Kenny won the veto, used the veto on himself. And so Chelsea replaced him with Tucker who had volunteered for the block. Um, Kenny has since.
[00:02:18] Once again said that he doesn't want to be there, uh, looking to maybe, maybe leave. Um, which, you know, has been, uh, well received by the house. They all love it. They, they love Kenny and they love that he wants to leave.
[00:02:37] But Taryn, there's the qualifier. If I don't win HOH, if he does win HOH, he's back Taryn for another two days, probably. And then he's going to check out again.
[00:02:48] Yeah. Uh, yeah, it's, uh, he said, if I, if I win, if I don't win HOH, I want to leave, which is wild. Uh, because like, what's the difference? I guess maybe he gets some photos.
[00:03:02] Taryn, you see how this plays out, right? Kenny wins HOH. He's super excited. He's going to put up Quinn. He said he's going to nominate eight different people.
[00:03:10] Yeah. And then he sits there, turns the keys and the nominees are all his allies because Quinn took over his HOH and he will walk out the front door in that moment.
[00:03:19] You're totally right.
[00:03:22] For real.
[00:03:24] The deep fake image of Kenny will show up in the, in the hologram thing to nominate other people. And Kenny will be like,
[00:03:32] all right, you know what they got, they got another one of me. They're good.
[00:03:37] I'm telling you, Kenny is the definition of suffering from success. He wants to leave the house so badly, but he can't stop winning competitions.
[00:03:43] His body just won't let him pretty inspiring.
[00:03:47] Oh boy. Uh, so despite the fact that a lot of people were talking about trying to pull Kenny in, and we'll even talk about some of that today.
[00:03:55] Um, you know, it's, it's very much like, well, what do we even really do with him at this point?
[00:04:01] Uh, so I guess that question will remain and to next week.
[00:04:07] And I guarantee you, he is probably going to be on the block at some point and then maybe even win another competition.
[00:04:15] And then we'll see where it goes from there.
[00:04:17] Uh, yeah. Uh, so as things stand right now, the vote is very much between Angela and Lisa.
[00:04:28] Um, it briefly went on to Angela after she got into a confrontation with Quinn for being upset with him for talking about her saying a thing about T-Core.
[00:04:41] It got into a whole big mess, uh, and the feeds were down for all of it.
[00:04:46] Um, and briefly everyone was like, okay, well, well, I guess we should vote out Angela then, but then fairly quickly they came back around to the idea of, man, probably should be Lisa.
[00:04:56] Uh, Lisa's a bigger threat than Angela and also weirdly more annoying.
[00:05:02] Um, and so, uh, so we should probably vote Lisa out, but Angela wasn't done yet because she's also trying to convince everyone that Lisa doesn't have a power by trying to convince everyone that Quinn does have a power.
[00:05:17] And by everyone, I mean, at least Tucker. Uh, and so she told Tucker that Quinn had the power the night before.
[00:05:23] And, uh, Tucker's response was, I don't believe you.
[00:05:29] Yeah.
[00:05:30] Not true. Uh, and so that's kind of where we left the day, uh, or left off, uh, the, the day before and where we start today on the live feeds.
[00:05:41] Um, something else that's been brewing is this, uh, visionaries Alliance that, uh, the core of which is Quinn, Kimo and T-Core.
[00:05:51] They've been the, the trio that has really been pushing the strategy this week for the most part.
[00:05:58] Um, uh, and trying to build something out.
[00:06:02] Uh, and they were talking with Rubina, uh, and trying to get her on board and she seemed to be on board.
[00:06:10] And so then the other people that they're thinking about pulling in are like Tucker, um, and maybe Brooklyn, maybe not Brooklyn.
[00:06:19] Maybe they talk to Kenny. Maybe they don't talk to Kenny.
[00:06:23] There's a few different options, but the primary people being added to the trio right now are Rubina and Tucker.
[00:06:30] And we get some more, uh, movement in that, on that front, uh, in the morning here on day 15.
[00:06:36] Yeah. We're all wondering who's going to be the one to actually put this together.
[00:06:40] And I think most people figured Quinn Quinn seems like the most active player, but Quinn is also the person who's kind of happy playing the middle.
[00:06:47] I think Quinn's pretty satisfied with his position, even if he still is running around the house doing everything.
[00:06:52] Uh, but T-Core really like took the initiative this morning.
[00:06:55] And I was like certain later in the day, we're going to get all five, all six, maybe in a room, solidifying, picking a name.
[00:07:02] And instead, this is kind of all we got when it came to the Alliance.
[00:07:06] Uh, but I'm really impressed by T-Core because my big concern with T-Core was when she has strategic conversations with other people,
[00:07:13] sometimes she doesn't give very much. She's a little bit more passive.
[00:07:17] It seems like she definitely has the ability to be a very active player and her one-on-ones basically with Rapinoe, with Tucker, with Quinn.
[00:07:25] It seems like she's going to be the one, if this Alliance happens, she's going to be the reason why.
[00:07:30] Yes. Uh, and, and there, I mean, good progress is made, but yes, you are correct that, uh, they're still not, are still not locking it in.
[00:07:39] There's still a lot of talk of like, let's, let's get through the week and then we'll lock it in next week.
[00:07:44] But by doing so, they're kind of leaving the door open to the wrong person winning HOH.
[00:07:50] And then they never lock it in because the wrong person is the HOH.
[00:07:55] Well, I think the, the beauty of this Alliance or this Alliance that's going to form is Quinn having this power.
[00:08:02] Because Quinn really has the ability to lock in the Alliance whenever he wants.
[00:08:06] The fact that so many people know about his power now, or at least there's, it's floating around that this power exists.
[00:08:11] I think Quinn should basically use this power as like Alliance glue to pull everyone in.
[00:08:17] And that's how he like forms the Alliance.
[00:08:19] As for what happened yesterday, as someone who was in that house, when the backyards closed with 15 people, it's impossible to get a room of five people with the right five people there.
[00:08:29] So we might not get it until we have a new HOH or at least till the backyards open again.
[00:08:34] Yeah, I think that's fair.
[00:08:35] And I, and I, I agree about like, I, I think that, you know, Quinn's whole thing about like keeping the power a secret has, it just doesn't.
[00:08:45] I mean, to some degree it makes sense, but I do think that telling a select few people does make sense.
[00:08:51] He obviously chose the wrong person in Angela.
[00:08:53] Uh, but I think that at this point, if you are trying to build something out, it does make sense to start to, uh, to just tell people, especially now that like Angela's trying to out you.
[00:09:05] Like you have to sort of cut and run at some point with the whole idea of keeping it a secret.
[00:09:13] Yeah, but there is a real danger.
[00:09:14] If you're Quinn, someone who does have like so many connections of you tell one person, not the other.
[00:09:20] And it gets back to that other person.
[00:09:21] All of a sudden they know where you stand.
[00:09:23] When I know Siri tells Matt about a power and doesn't tell me, I know Matt's ahead of the power structure.
[00:09:28] If Cedric finds out his final two, that Tucker knows about the power and he doesn't.
[00:09:33] So I understand Quinn's hesitation, but at a certain point, like his master plan of framing someone as a, it's over.
[00:09:42] Right.
[00:09:43] He just has an HOH and you should treat it like that.
[00:09:45] I agree.
[00:09:46] I think that, uh, and, and maybe it is, maybe it is just like next week is a great opportunity to just use it and just come out with it.
[00:09:54] And, you know, uh, don't try to keep it a secret.
[00:09:57] Um, but, uh, but we'll see, we'll see.
[00:10:00] There's a, there's a lot of ways to play this and a lot of different possibilities for who could win that HOH.
[00:10:06] So, uh, it's, uh, very much left open at this point.
[00:10:11] Uh, throughout the day, uh, we get a little bit of resolution on the Leah situation.
[00:10:19] Um, in the sense that like everything is coming crashing down for her.
[00:10:24] Um, that, uh, Quinn is going to talk about how he is like, well, I tried.
[00:10:32] Like I had, he mentions to T-Core, like I had one good conversation with Leah and then kind of nothing.
[00:10:39] She's been like in this showmance with Pam basically.
[00:10:42] And it feels like she's not really interested in working with me anymore.
[00:10:46] So, uh, I don't, I guess, I guess we're not really moving forward in that direction, which is unfortunate for Leah because she is still talking about working with Quinn, uh, and bringing him into this girls thing that they've started to develop.
[00:10:59] She just hasn't actually talked to Quinn about.
[00:11:04] Yeah, I would say it's a very much like shades of Corey when it comes to, uh, Quinn where Quinn's like, yeah, Leah's flirting with Cam.
[00:11:12] I'm not going to tell her to stop doing that because that feels weird.
[00:11:15] I don't want to be possessive.
[00:11:16] Um, when the truth is, I do think like, especially Quinn and Leah, they've had like three conversations where they're flirting total and Quinn really does you Leah as this strategic connection that is just floating away.
[00:11:28] And the really complicated thing with Leah is she doesn't like Cam apparently.
[00:11:33] So I just don't know what her path is.
[00:11:36] She might have Mackenzie.
[00:11:37] Tucker doesn't seem interested.
[00:11:39] So like she basically just needs the house to flip somehow, but flip on what?
[00:11:44] Cause there's no power structure and someone in the power structure has a power.
[00:11:49] She just needs to hope things resolve.
[00:11:51] Cause I don't see the active steps she can take because she should be in this five person outsiders alliance.
[00:11:57] She's made it.
[00:11:58] So she's not even like in consideration.
[00:12:00] Exactly.
[00:12:01] Like, uh, like nobody is looking to pull Leah in anymore because they think she's already locked in with MJ and Cam to some degree.
[00:12:09] Um, and, uh, and that's, that's kind of like a wild spot.
[00:12:13] And so, uh, and, and she has been mostly busy with just talking about her various romantic options in the house.
[00:12:22] Um, and so, uh, so we, again, we do get a little bit of a resolution on that as she's going to talk with Tucker a little more and Tucker's going to talk about her a little more.
[00:12:32] And it's, it's made extremely clear, uh, that Tucker has no interest in Leah.
[00:12:40] Uh, but like he describes his type as the complete opposite of Leah.
[00:12:45] He talks about like Rubina and we mentioned this a little bit before too, but like he's, he's like not only not interested in Leah, he's like actively annoyed that she's like coming on to him.
[00:12:56] And wants basically nothing to do with her and says that he wants to put her on the block.
[00:13:03] Yeah.
[00:13:05] Very, very clear.
[00:13:06] And I think Leah finally is starting to pick it up a little bit.
[00:13:08] She was kind of venting.
[00:13:09] I forget if it was to Brooklyn or Rubina.
[00:13:11] Uh, but I do wonder if like part of Leah's interest in Tucker is Tucker having no interest in Leah is Cam and Quinn.
[00:13:19] So clearly do like her.
[00:13:20] I'm not Mr.
[00:13:22] Psycho analysis.
[00:13:22] Maybe leave that to like Heism.
[00:13:24] Uh, but there's something there, I think.
[00:13:27] Yeah.
[00:13:28] That, uh, the, the, the, the one guy that's not interested in her is the one that she is interested in perhaps.
[00:13:35] Yeah.
[00:13:36] Could be.
[00:13:37] Uh, Tucker in the meantime is going to talk with Kenny, um, and, uh, and talk about like maybe working together, maybe having Kenny essentially from his perspective, I think as like a,
[00:13:49] um, and, uh, tries to get Kenny's sort of vibe, uh, about that.
[00:13:56] And Kenny seems perfectly willing.
[00:13:59] Uh, you know, he likes Tucker.
[00:14:02] He likes chemo.
[00:14:03] Um, and so he's down to like work with them.
[00:14:06] He still is on this kick of like the women are working together led by Brooklyn.
[00:14:11] Um, but again, this is also Kenny and he's, you know, trying to leave.
[00:14:19] So who knows?
[00:14:20] Well, so here's my thought about Kenny.
[00:14:22] Number one, he's very dangerous to pull into an Alliance cause he's kind of a wild card.
[00:14:25] He's kind of close to MJ.
[00:14:26] Also, he wants to quit.
[00:14:27] So do you really want to put your game in his hands?
[00:14:29] On the other hand, if he gets pulled into a six person Alliance, and he might be back, he might feel like, Oh, I've got a shot in this.
[00:14:36] I have connections.
[00:14:37] I'm reinvigorated.
[00:14:38] I could actually play the game because it feels like that's kind of Kenny's trajectory.
[00:14:42] Whenever something is going, okay, he's back into it.
[00:14:45] And I think the only reason he wants to leave right now, he thinks he has no shot of winning and he's right at this point.
[00:14:51] So I think if he gets pulled in, he might actually come back, but it's probably temporary.
[00:14:56] Most people don't want to quit the game ever.
[00:14:58] Corey, he did say $750,000, not worth it.
[00:15:02] As someone who got a jury stipend and that's it, I think it is worth it.
[00:15:07] Who knows?
[00:15:08] Hey, maybe Kenny's like loaded.
[00:15:11] He's like, you know, maybe he's like, listen, maybe he's one of those people that's like, I could be making more money this summer doing my real job than being here.
[00:15:21] What, like traffic stops?
[00:15:23] Like, at least he's like a RoboCop.
[00:15:27] There's no way.
[00:15:28] Well, let's be real.
[00:15:29] Most people that say that are lying anyway.
[00:15:31] Oh, you think it might be a Liz survivor 46 strategy?
[00:15:35] He's actually secretly loaded and pretending to be a cop.
[00:15:37] It's something there.
[00:15:39] Listen, he's lying about being a cop in there.
[00:15:42] Maybe he's lying about being a cop outside too.
[00:15:44] I don't know.
[00:15:44] I don't know.
[00:15:50] So let's see.
[00:15:51] There was a conversation between Quinn and Brooklyn where, you know, and they were talking to Chelsea as well.
[00:15:57] And like the Pentagon is still being talked about.
[00:16:01] Uh, specifically by, by Quinn and Brooklyn.
[00:16:03] And it seems like this is probably where Brooklyn is getting hung up because we talked about Brooklyn and like how she has the ability to be like really building things.
[00:16:14] Um, and, and getting into like the swing of things.
[00:16:18] But I think that she still feels like Pentagon is real.
[00:16:23] Um, and unlike last week where she agreed with Quinn that they're on the bottom of the Pentagon and need to do other things.
[00:16:30] I think that probably, uh, when Chelsea came to her saying, Hey, I'm worried about cam.
[00:16:37] She was like, Oh, here we go.
[00:16:39] This is a great in the Pentagon works for me.
[00:16:43] Now I just need to make sure that we're not like blowing it up prematurely, keep everything smooth.
[00:16:47] And she's been keeping Chelsea fairly steady and smooth.
[00:16:50] Um, and then we're there.
[00:16:52] She's also kind of like part of this women's thing that's being built mostly by like MJ's push, uh, to, to build something off of the barbershop.
[00:17:01] And so she probably feels like between the Pentagon and this women's thing, she's actually in a pretty good spot.
[00:17:08] The unfortunate reality is that, uh, Quinn is basically long gone from the Pentagon.
[00:17:14] Uh, and, uh, and there's a much bigger thing being built elsewhere.
[00:17:19] And this women's thing is like barely real.
[00:17:23] Um, and, uh, and so I think that she, uh, is just kind of stuck in, in like the past essentially.
[00:17:31] Right now.
[00:17:32] Yeah.
[00:17:32] I mean, she's a very strong social player, but she has been quite passive, but it's been fine because she's been in a good position and the house has been relatively passive, at least in terms of big power structures and dynamics.
[00:17:43] But now that the house is taking a little bit more shape or like passivity is really revealing itself to be a really bad thing for, uh, I feel like her game is not make or break at this point.
[00:17:54] No one's going to really target her.
[00:17:55] She still has a lot of time to recover, but if she's not called into this chemo T core Quinn group.
[00:18:00] It makes it a lot harder for Brooklyn because all of a sudden she's probably the best player excluded from that.
[00:18:06] And people in that alliance, at least Quinn, are aware of it.
[00:18:08] Uh, so I do worry for Brooklyn.
[00:18:10] Like she needs to be in this alliance and maybe that's through Robina.
[00:18:13] Maybe it's through doing better in these convos with Quinn.
[00:18:16] Uh, but I, I'm very worried about her.
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[00:19:14] fight yes uh so you know a huge part of the day is as i said just like people talking about lisa
[00:19:25] and how annoyed they are of lisa um and the various things that she has done throughout
[00:19:30] the season so far throughout the day the things that she says the food she makes um they are
[00:19:38] getting pretty frustrated for the most part uh and of course um if you've been on twitter or anywhere
[00:19:46] online throughout the day yesterday then you likely would have seen um the moment where uh
[00:19:54] we're still not seeing like most of it or where this even really came from but the angela lisa feud is
[00:20:01] still flaming hot uh they uh they really hate each other and uh of course uh at one point during the
[00:20:11] day uh lisa is walking one way uh through uh away from the kitchen and angela is walking the other
[00:20:19] way toward the kitchen and angela goes ahead and is going to make fun of the way lisa walks uh something
[00:20:28] along the lines of like uh that if you're watching the video um and uh i mean it was very funny uh to
[00:20:43] see angela do this it's uh i mean the gifts are already uh you know going viral um but uh but lisa
[00:20:52] obviously was not a fan no and and i wouldn't be too i would say like lisa there's a lot of quirks
[00:20:59] about lisa that would frustrate me in the house i don't think this specific house is doing a good
[00:21:04] job of dealing with them i don't think her behavior warrants the i guess the words against her
[00:21:10] angela's behavior ultimately angela has her kind of like talking in such a funny package that i'm here
[00:21:18] for it but i feel like if angela was just a little bit less like personable it would just be mean
[00:21:24] um and we probably are there anyways but yeah i mean it's it's pretty mean well i don't know i mean
[00:21:30] it is like yeah i mean like i think to be somewhat fair like it from our perspective at least it did seem
[00:21:38] like lisa is the one that really like started this by saying i don't want to be associated with you
[00:21:44] you're bad for me uh for my like career both inside and outside of the house or whatever which
[00:21:49] is like a wild thing to say to somebody taryn she was right
[00:21:57] there's also the big debate with angela calling lisa a tw vowel t and there was a lot of discourse
[00:22:04] about which vowel was in that word and angela was very like defined indignant that she didn't say one
[00:22:12] and did say the other i don't really know the difference between these words in terms of
[00:22:16] how hard hitting they are uh but yeah angela would have to clarify to lisa or lisa because
[00:22:22] not happy yes uh and and there is like we have reached the point and this is a fairly common
[00:22:29] occurrence i think on big brother uh where like somebody becomes a bit of a house pariah uh and or
[00:22:38] just the target this week and so uh everyone kind of gets to like let their frustrations out um and
[00:22:46] uh and and it starts to get to the point where like some of them are like
[00:22:51] is this okay like should we be nicer uh like like is it you know does it does it make sense that we're
[00:23:00] gonna also now vote her out is that fair like it is it's the game though like it's like in brooklyn
[00:23:05] at one point i think i think it was brooklyn was like uh like you know it's not like we're agreeing
[00:23:11] with angela by voting out lisa we're just voting out lisa because she's the bigger threat uh we're
[00:23:17] not trying to like co-sign what angela is doing yeah it was kind of sad to watch too because lisa
[00:23:23] was talking to robina talking to brooklyn about these different things angela was doing and how
[00:23:27] it made her feel upset and how no one is standing up for her but she's okay with that because she
[00:23:31] understands it's the game and people still have her back but it's weird that no one's standing up
[00:23:34] for her but she doesn't want people to but she definitely wants people to um and ultimately no
[00:23:40] one's going to do that because they're all voting lisa out uh instead of angela at this point at
[00:23:44] least so it's one of those things in big brother where like a lot of this stuff happens behind your
[00:23:48] back which is almost like appreciated because there's been a lot of other houses where like that
[00:23:53] person will be very clearly socially ostracized and i feel like that hasn't happened yet for lisa and i
[00:23:59] hope it never does but the ai arena makes it really weird because lisa's not gone yet she might be
[00:24:04] there next week she might win h08 yeah uh exactly um and so yeah we i think we are in this weird kind
[00:24:12] of place where it's like we could probably turn down the heat a little bit on how many people are
[00:24:18] talking about lisa all the time especially because it's pretty boring to watch uh for the most part
[00:24:24] um but it is very much still happening and lisa still very much is the target that's pretty much
[00:24:30] what the conclusion has been if lisa does not win the ai arena competition then it will be lisa that
[00:24:36] leaves um to be honest though i like i feel like that because matt lost and went home i feel like
[00:24:46] there's a little bit of overconfidence that like the target probably won uh but like it is it's a it's a
[00:24:53] one and three shot like it's not that wild to imagine that lisa wins this competition
[00:25:00] maybe they feel better that tucker's in there but again matt lost to chemo uh chemo's a pretty good
[00:25:04] competitor but obviously matt would be favored in that sense uh i will say the one thing i've noticed
[00:25:09] about this whole ai arena shenanigans is i'm so certain if there was two nominees right now
[00:25:15] tucker would be in a little bit of danger i agree has to be uh so you know in a way him volunteering
[00:25:21] for a pawn is not as disastrous as i think both of us thought it would be um but again i think that's
[00:25:27] more of a benefit of like the twist and people do like him socially but i think really it's
[00:25:31] you can't even entertain the idea of getting rid of tucker it's too big for us
[00:25:36] uh so uh as i said mj is still just trying to push this like women's alliance thing um again primarily
[00:25:45] it's her leah chelsea um brooklyn is in there uh rubina and then they're still talking about like
[00:25:53] who else should we pull in and and quinn is the primary option they just haven't talked to quinn
[00:25:58] about it yet uh so that's like there's really no significant update there beyond like they're just
[00:26:05] still talking about it um and yet again it's like uh just people not acting not moving quick enough
[00:26:14] like the longer they wait the the harder it is for this to like to happen and the problem is that
[00:26:20] they've included rubina in the first place and rubina's like not really down um but uh you know
[00:26:26] it is what it is i think everyone's waiting for an hoh but theoretically chelsea's hoh could have been
[00:26:32] that uh i think it's going to be whoever gets that first hoh and decides to be decisive with it
[00:26:37] and based on the fact that quinn has one of the next two hohs it seems like that side's got a huge
[00:26:42] advantage yes exactly and and that's the main thing is that like i think chelsea's hoh has really put
[00:26:49] everyone in like neutral everyone feels very comfortable just like chilling because there's so
[00:26:56] many house targets so many people volunteering for the block kenny tucker's volunteering lisa and angela
[00:27:03] one of them will still be there there's still so many options um but the reality is that like
[00:27:09] if you really want to take control of the game next week is the time to to strike at an actual target
[00:27:15] um and uh and if you don't it's going to be the following week and that means it's probably you
[00:27:22] that's the actual target it's just so hard taren because i was a player for most of the time i was
[00:27:27] very conflict diverse i would try to like just keep the least amount of people targeting me as possible
[00:27:31] and when you have people volunteering for the block which is what happened this week
[00:27:35] you say yes like even if you feel like you gotta make a big move the way this season works is you're
[00:27:41] gonna have at least two maybe three people who survived the block be able to win hoh next week
[00:27:45] and like tucker volunteered kenny volunteered angela might as well have volunteered uh so i don't blame
[00:27:52] chelsea for not like making a bigger move i think this is like the exact decision 99 of players would
[00:27:58] have made and i think it's gonna happen next week too so i think there's a good chance because even
[00:28:04] because the thing is even if uh even if quinn does want to make a move with or without his power
[00:28:10] i think he does actively want angela gone which is not a bad move for him because angela is just
[00:28:16] like dead set against him and probably will be for the rest of the game also i'm gonna vent about
[00:28:20] tucker because this happened on my season two this idea that i'm gonna volunteer to be a pawn
[00:28:26] because everyone has to do it at some point and i'm gonna get mine out of the way
[00:28:30] it's like no you could be nominated several times felicia was there six times like it's this idea
[00:28:36] that i think like new people come into big brother having of like well kind of like a rites of passage
[00:28:40] sitting on the block you don't have to ever if you're a good player you'll never sit on the block
[00:28:45] uh but just listening to tucker and like he's probably safe this week so it's fine but
[00:28:50] i was just losing my mind watching it well that's the thing too is that like
[00:28:53] if anything being on the block once makes it more likely that you will be on the block again
[00:28:59] uh because you've already done it like you you we people already know what to expect
[00:29:04] that you there's another person that's put you on the block so you're not the only person that's done
[00:29:08] it uh like yeah it's uh you should not want to be on the block ever um so uh of course the big thing
[00:29:19] here is that angela had told tucker the night before that quinn had the power he didn't believe
[00:29:25] her um so he was telling uh chemo and t core about how mj has the power and what it is um and uh when
[00:29:36] t core left the room uh tucker was talking to chemo about how angela told him that quinn had the power
[00:29:43] uh and he was like yeah she was like quinn has the power and and it's like i mean quinn could have
[00:29:50] the power uh and chemo says he does i love this place so much taren i think it's so smart because
[00:30:00] he has so much plausible deniability in this conversation like tucker knows but tucker was
[00:30:05] also told by a whole other person that quinn told even if it gets back to quinn that chemo told tucker
[00:30:12] chemo could be like well he already knew i thought it was the best play i told him to protect you which
[00:30:17] is exactly what chemo did i think it pulls uh tucker closer to chemo i don't think it's going
[00:30:23] to have a big impact on chemo and quinn's relationship uh the only thing it hurts is it
[00:30:27] hurts quinn's ability to like pull tucker in more closely uh but ultimately i don't think people are
[00:30:32] going to hold too much of a grudge when it comes to like you hid your power like that's a normal thing
[00:30:36] to do in big brother the only way he might feel kind of some kind of way is oh you told chemo and not me
[00:30:41] but i think chemo from his perspective really good yeah so there's yeah there's a couple things here
[00:30:47] um one is that uh i think i don't think that chemo would have just like outright volunteered this
[00:30:55] necessarily but the fact that tucker was already told and and i will say this too because i don't
[00:31:00] know that this context has reached most people who have heard about this uh the way that tucker
[00:31:06] was explaining it to chemo was different than the way he was reacting to angela like when he was
[00:31:12] reacting angela was like no way i know for sure that lisa has it quinn definitely doesn't have it
[00:31:17] uh the way he was talking to chemo was more like yeah i mean there's there's a chance quinn has it
[00:31:23] so like this this could be true um and so you know at that point if you're chemo
[00:31:31] it it makes sense i think to just come out and just say yeah it is it is true because it's going
[00:31:37] to come out uh like at this point if the power is used it's going to come out and here's the thing
[00:31:43] chemo really wants the power to be used like he doesn't want quinn to just be able to be completely
[00:31:50] secret forever nobody ever thinks he had it and he never has to use it he actively wants quinn to use
[00:31:55] it because it benefits him and if quinn gets a little bit of heat because he kept the power secret or
[00:31:59] because he's using it or quinn great for chemo that quinn is using the power to benefit uh uh
[00:32:06] quinn is using the power to benefit chemo um so uh i think it just makes a lot of sense to just come
[00:32:11] out and say it in this moment and be like yeah you know what i'm not gonna sit here and deny it
[00:32:16] especially if like you know i've already had an experience where quinn outed the anderson's in front
[00:32:22] of uh in front of t-core without without consulting me if quinn eventually does tell tucker like if
[00:32:29] quinn if tucker goes to quinn about this and quinn admits it because he probably should um and he
[00:32:34] says i have only told one other person it's chemo and i'm now sitting here denying it to you uh then
[00:32:40] that's like a little bit of a a you know thing in our relationship so yeah i think it makes a lot of
[00:32:45] sense and i think the way that he he does this makes a lot of sense as well he says basically yes quinn
[00:32:51] does have the power it does what angela says it does and that's really good for us because quinn is on
[00:32:57] our side so we should be protecting him so that he can use this power to our benefit um and of course
[00:33:05] tucker is kind of like so lisa doesn't have the power but he seems to agree with chemo i'm really
[00:33:14] glad he's opened his mind to the possibility because i still think tomorrow or today he might wake up
[00:33:18] thinking lisa probably has the power though um i really think chemo also can cover himself really
[00:33:24] easily here by just going to quinn and being like hey quinn tucker was grilling me about this power
[00:33:29] like i think he knows man uh it's like a very classic big brother move and i think quinn would
[00:33:35] it's the truth as well right it's not like chemo is necessarily lying about it so i i really don't see
[00:33:40] much blowback that can happen for chemo and all of a sudden when you come to this like five person six
[00:33:44] person alliance like chemo and quinn kind of have a final two chemo and tucker are building this
[00:33:50] obviously this chemo and tcore chemo and repeat it feels like chemo is at the center of this whole
[00:33:54] alliance and even the people who are not necessarily as pulled into him he's pulling them in he's pulling
[00:33:58] in tucker maybe he has to work on whoever this last person is but i think he's doing so so well
[00:34:03] yes i completely agree uh it's again it's like you know i we talked about this on the round table
[00:34:09] last night but like tcore has been a little more active in like reaching out right now but but uh
[00:34:17] uh it's it's almost like uh this is a very loose uh comparison but like um when uh when uh when
[00:34:25] brett and tyler were in level six and and like tyler was the guy that was like reaching out and
[00:34:31] working the other side for a while and brett was the guy on the core but then they swapped roles and
[00:34:35] tyler started working on the core brett was the one working uh the other guys um it's like tcore right
[00:34:42] now is like working the outside um she's talking to the women she's pulling in rubina she's talking
[00:34:50] she is talking to tucker and getting him involved in the alliance but but chemo right now is the one
[00:34:55] at the core uh he's got the tight relationship with quinn he's locked in with uh with tcore he's now
[00:35:02] pulling in tucker more um and uh and right now that's kind of i think the place to be uh in this
[00:35:11] particular house and it's it's definitely interesting to see this dynamic yeah and again
[00:35:16] we can't like really stress enough how much this alliance doesn't exist yet yeah like it will i'm
[00:35:22] sure but it really doesn't and assuming it forms i am so so happy with this set of people because
[00:35:30] it's literally the opposite of forming your onion alliance on day two or three like all these people
[00:35:34] have very natural relationships they have connections between the two tucker likes robina tcore and chemo
[00:35:39] obviously quinn's good with everybody like it's an alliance that actually makes sense so i think
[00:35:44] there is some sort of like solidification that's likely my question to you taryn is like they keep
[00:35:49] talking about this sixth spot and i know they tossed around chelsea i think that's a horrible idea
[00:35:54] brooklyn i think there's a benefit there but do you really want to pull brooklyn into another thing
[00:35:58] i don't think i think joseph or kenny are the only two options yeah so they they've talked about joseph
[00:36:04] um but so the thing with joseph is that uh and you might you might notice that we're still not
[00:36:10] talking about joseph in terms of what he's doing because he's just not really doing anything um all
[00:36:17] he ever really does is talk about the collective because that's the last time anybody talked about
[00:36:21] an alliance with him but uh in an unfortunate way for him that's just counterproductive because
[00:36:28] everyone's like joseph is too locked in on the collective he's not going to want to do something
[00:36:32] different uh like you know and i think that's a bad read i think that he is desperate for anything
[00:36:40] but the fact that he's talking about the collective so much people are like well he wouldn't want to
[00:36:43] betray the collective to join the visionaries um he's such a ham too like everyone's like why would
[00:36:51] they pull in joseph he says he's a snake that they need to get out i'm like well yeah he's our snake
[00:36:55] maybe at the final eight like he's not the most dangerous like a garden snake maybe um but i think like
[00:37:01] he's the person who they should bring in he's kind of connected to some of these people but more
[00:37:05] importantly he has nobody and i don't think he's the type to make a big move for the sake of making
[00:37:10] a big move he's willing to betray you it's not going to be soon i agree i think that like the thing for
[00:37:17] me is uh right now it doesn't matter if you pull joseph in because you have a better relationship with
[00:37:26] joseph than like the the visionary side of the house is a much better relationship with joseph than
[00:37:30] the i guess barbershop women's alliance whatever they're going to call themselves side of the house
[00:37:37] um except for chelsea who does have a good relationship with joseph um but you generally
[00:37:43] have a better shot at that but that's only until somebody just decides to pull him in um because he
[00:37:51] will take whatever deal is offered to him um so then it's like well but if we do pull him in he's
[00:37:58] definitely a smart enough guy to recognize if he's on the bottom of something who would have to be very
[00:38:03] careful about it if we let him know like the full structure of things he'll probably figure it out and
[00:38:08] might want to make a move happen like there's so many different ways that like pulling in this
[00:38:13] other member could could fail like whether it's brooklyn she's too smart right uh if it's chelsea
[00:38:21] she's too smart and connected if it's joseph he's too smart if it's kenny he's trying to quit the game
[00:38:26] he could do anything um so it's like all of the options are a little bit shaky uh in terms of like
[00:38:33] officially bringing somebody else in i have a crazy option for the fifth cap and quinn mentioned it to
[00:38:38] t core yesterday when says i might sound crazy but i really want to work with angela
[00:38:45] and and this is like i i hate to keep harkening back to my season it just feels so much like me
[00:38:50] and felicia like no matter what felicia would do no matter what angela does to quinn quinn is still
[00:38:55] we can make it work and maybe it's because quinn is kind of beholden to angela because the power
[00:39:00] but at this point that's over um it's weird i feel like quinn is the one person who's still somewhat
[00:39:06] open to working with angela you're not going to pull her into the real alliance or anything but
[00:39:09] could she be someone's parachute of who's um but me cory cory cory cory
[00:39:18] crazy i'm not falling for your low budget movie i i know what you're trying to do
[00:39:25] with your fake alliance you're pitching to me i'm telling you people love old school big brother
[00:39:33] until it's me and felicia yelling at each other in the kitchen or it's matt yelling at angela you
[00:39:38] know what i mean like sometimes you got to pick your battles and i think matt handled it very well
[00:39:43] i would have done the exact same thing probably left even quicker
[00:39:47] yeah uh i think i think the thing is that like right now i think i think you i think you just lock
[00:39:55] in your five i think you lock in quinn chemo t-core rubina tucker and you say this is our five
[00:40:04] uh that that is good like tucker likes that because he doesn't even want to go beyond five anyway um
[00:40:11] you lock that in now before the next hoh then if one of you wins the next hoh or quinn uses his power
[00:40:18] or whatever um then you build another alliance on top of that via the hoh that includes maybe a couple
[00:40:29] more people like uh it could it could be joseph that they could pull in it could be some combination
[00:40:35] of like it could be like brooklyn cedric chelsea um and you exclude cam from that one because it's
[00:40:42] like we're not sure if we can trust cam and the league cam and leah situation um and it's just like
[00:40:47] basically just a way to neutralize a couple of extra players for a couple more weeks before you then
[00:40:53] turn on them and use use your core to your advantage um maybe it's something like that of course like it
[00:40:58] always just kind of depends on like what is feeling natural at the time um but uh but yeah i think i
[00:41:05] think this this five is is like the place where it should be and trying to go any further than that
[00:41:12] officially i think might might be too dangerous yeah i think the days of like the very strict onion
[00:41:18] alliance are kind of over like the cookout was six the brigade was four number five is perfect and as long
[00:41:23] as you have your connections outside and again like we keep coming back to it because it's really
[00:41:27] important quinn has an hoh in the next two weeks everyone in this alliance is trying to win hoh or
[00:41:32] seemingly i feel like quinn's probably gonna have a camp talk saying he's gonna throw it uh over the
[00:41:36] next day but it seems like everyone's trying to win hoh there's a real likelihood they're gonna have
[00:41:40] two in a row um in which case this alliance like first of all you'll have five out of 13 instead of
[00:41:46] five out of 15 just numbers wise and also you'll have two weeks to like solidify and own the hoh room
[00:41:53] where you can talk in there the backyard will be open which will give you more time it feels like
[00:41:57] any outcome that would prevent this group from forming is negated by quinn's power so it's gonna
[00:42:03] form it's just a matter of time yeah i agree uh so that's that's kind of where we're at here um i i i
[00:42:12] do think so there's another conversation being had as well that's like okay chemo was pretty quick to
[00:42:18] throw out uh quinn's power to tucker uh it's weird that he did that with tucker but still hasn't told
[00:42:25] t core um and so the obvious kind of answer to that is that like it's actually very possible that he
[00:42:33] has told t core and that we just haven't seen it uh because the feeds have been down a lot uh and um
[00:42:41] and we've missed a ton of stuff so given that uh that like you know again that he did tell uh
[00:42:49] that tucker already you know i i think it's totally possible that t core knows but i but we don't know
[00:42:56] at this point yeah i could see if he didn't just because again like tucker kind of approached chemo
[00:43:00] with the idea that quinn has the power and i'm sure t core didn't do that but ultimately chemo has
[00:43:04] again so much plausible deniability like you know he can i think like when you have two allies and
[00:43:11] you're not telling one ally the other ally secret you play that off as loyalty not like treachery to
[00:43:17] the ally you're not telling the secret uh so i'm not worried about that and i i would fully expect
[00:43:21] the start of this day for chemo to talk to quinn about the power kind of being out there and it'll
[00:43:24] get to t core and everyone's gonna know in this alliance by like new and yeah and i do think that
[00:43:30] like ideally you know whether or not it's him that tells t core or tucker that tells you like
[00:43:38] you don't really want like i think the one downside of of chemo telling tucker is that it theoretically
[00:43:45] reveals that quinn told chemo and that's bad for quinn and tucker's relationship but it's also a little
[00:43:52] bit bad for chemo and tucker's relationship in that it exposes to tucker that he's really tight with
[00:43:58] quinn and that quinn is really prioritizing him um granted i don't think tucker's really the player
[00:44:05] that's going to be like catching that um in in the same way that like i don't know that leah remembers
[00:44:11] that quinn basically told her that he has a final two with chemo uh but um but it is like the chemo
[00:44:18] when pairing is something i think to be concerned about a little bit especially long term uh because
[00:44:26] there are a lot of seeds out there about how close they are um and uh and because chemo is also very
[00:44:33] tightly publicly linked to t core uh it it could eventually start to become an issue where people
[00:44:39] are like well chemo is very obviously at the center of this as opposed to very quietly at the center
[00:44:45] yeah i think this is like a moment where big brother fans have to recognize like the importance
[00:44:49] of personnel like quinn doing what quinn's doing would be torched on big brother 25 and i think
[00:44:54] chemo doing what chemo's doing on bb 25 might you might get like caught in the fray there's too much
[00:44:59] going on and he wouldn't be able to keep up in this cast quinn's messiness seems okay chemo's more
[00:45:05] laid back more passive style seems to be okay and i think whether that's just them being themselves
[00:45:10] or them adapting to the house um pucker is not going to catch these like social strategic nuances
[00:45:16] and act on them i think yeah all right uh anything else cory that you wanted to bring up
[00:45:22] it's the last thing um i don't know if you caught chelsea's can talk in the morning
[00:45:26] um so did the moon water plan ever happen the i i don't think so i mean i know that like
[00:45:35] in terms of the uh the the spilled moon water uh that that was a big thing but uh i don't think
[00:45:43] anything beyond that because she planned on making more moon water and then discovering it somewhere in
[00:45:50] the house and showing lisa look i found it uh which overcooking to the 10th degree uh and then the other
[00:45:58] thing that i found really funny about chelsea is chelsea wanted to make it very clear to the audience
[00:46:03] how much she doesn't like cam and doesn't have a crush on cam that's that's the part i thought
[00:46:08] he's very attractive he's really attractive nice teeth wipes his cracks um you know it washes his
[00:46:14] cracks pardon he's like i'm so attracted to him but he's stupid and he likes leah and why does he
[00:46:20] like leah showmance is stupid and he is attractive but i'm not interested um and the whole thing struck
[00:46:26] me as i think chelsea might have a little bit of a crush on cam um i don't think it'll amount to
[00:46:30] anything but i thought it was a it's a very funny camp talk yes uh no pun intended um that's uh it
[00:46:38] well it was and you know like when she was when she was annoyed about the cam leah thing it was like
[00:46:46] you know uh i think a lot of people were thinking like is there something there but like
[00:46:51] you know you don't want to speculate too hard there's plenty of reasons why this could be annoying
[00:46:54] but uh yeah hearing her talk about cam and how uh he's he is very attractive and that uh but that
[00:47:03] she's not not interested because of his personality and the whole leah thing it's like okay well
[00:47:09] yeah maybe maybe there were maybe there was something a little bit maybe a little bit um so uh with that
[00:47:16] and with that said though like i think that is informative in terms of like if cam does stick
[00:47:22] around and the leah thing does go away um you know i don't think it's impossible that this relationship
[00:47:29] not necessarily romantically but like strategically gets rekindled um because i think that this seems to
[00:47:35] have been the big hurdle with them strategically and and this is the this is the main thing for
[00:47:40] chelsea is that she needs cam in the game like the reason chelsea has been so uh like
[00:47:47] disadvantaged in the game this week is because her her power base is scattered um and if she gets cam
[00:47:55] back uh all of a sudden chelsea is like a pretty decent force in the game again because her pieces
[00:48:01] are now much more in place i'm so desperately hoping for a cam hoh i think it's the most interesting
[00:48:07] outcome by far cedric would be interesting too but making quinn really have to make a hard decision
[00:48:11] about do i take this over and if he does it's going to be a very direct attack on the other side
[00:48:16] because especially if lisa's gone everyone knows where the power lies they're going to have to
[00:48:21] figure it out um unless they think she went home with it which again the power is going to be played
[00:48:25] so they can't think that um a cam hoh would be chaos uh going for it all right well that's what we
[00:48:33] have for you then today of course i'll be back tomorrow morning 11 am eastern to update you
[00:48:36] anything that happens today on the big brother 26 live feeds i'll be live tonight on twitch watching
[00:48:42] the episode uh with all of you and then of course after the episode we'll be live to recap it all
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[00:49:35] uh well later today i'm driving to dollywood with uh molly and my sister america gatlinsburg might
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[00:49:59] fun stuff uh so check that out but uh yeah i'm just i'm excited i'm having a great time this season
[00:50:04] so far it's been a while since i've been like locked into big brother and um yeah i i remember why i liked
[00:50:11] it so much well there you go all right well thank you all so much for joining us here today
[00:50:17] and we will see all of you next time