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[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Every morning, tearing Armstrong's toxic brother, looking at the stuff from yesterday.
[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from V.O. to H.O.H.
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[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for August 14th.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Arn Armstrong. And I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: The Big Brother 26 live feeds. It was day 29 in the house.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And listen, we were promised talks with Quinn.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We had some talks and maybe a flip. I don't know. Maybe. We'll see.
[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about it all today. And with me to talk about it is Corey. How are you doing, Corey?
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing well. I just want to get out in front of this for everybody watching.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're here to hear about the new twist that's going to impact the game, you're at the wrong place.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We're just updating on the live feed.
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we know we are going to tell you all about it at the end of this podcast.
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So stay tuned. Stay watching until the end. And then we're going to tell you all about the new twist.
[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll tell you even more on Thursday.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: No, we don't say that until until the end.
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. All right. Well, of course.
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: This is what we have going on. Angela is the H.O.H.
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But Quinn is the real H.O.H. or the deep fake real H.O.H.
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Cedric, MJ and Rubina are on the block after Tucker won the veto and saved himself.
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Now. How this is working so far, coming into today, is that Cedric should be safe and that MJ should leave over Rubina.
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ should leave over Cedric, but Rubina would leave over Cedric.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So if MJ wins the arena competition, Rubina goes home.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If anybody else wins the arena competition, MJ goes home.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: There was brief talk about potentially flipping the vote on Rubina from Chelsea.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It was quickly, very quickly shut down by Quinn.
[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's basically where we head into today.
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we talked yesterday about how T-Core and Kimo had discussed maybe ratting Leah out finally and how they were really going to talk to Quinn in the morning today.
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot to talk to him about, about like, should we talk about Pentagon and the collective and rat out Leah and really like get to the bottom of things?
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They were like, we're definitely going to do it.
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they talked to him last the night before and they didn't.
[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And then after the conversation the night before, they were like, OK, but now definitely in the morning, we're going to have that conversation.
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So here we are in the morning of day 29.
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And. No, they didn't do it.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, they didn't do it.
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: The best time to rat out Leah to Quinn is before the veto meeting.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: The second best time is now.
[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_02]: The third best time is tomorrow.
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm hoping that happens.
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So so that does not happen.
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But what does happen is some other stuff.
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker is going to talk with Joseph.
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we know that Joseph is secretly working with Tucker and and Tucker lets Joseph know about what had happened the night before with Angela.
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I can feel on the bottom where she really, really wanted to join the alliance.
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like very pleased with themselves because look at them.
[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker in charge of one alliance on one side of the house and and Joseph in charge of another alliance on the other side of the house.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They're really they're really secretly running things, Corey.
[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, secretly to us as well.
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really a lot of behind the scenes work being done by Joseph.
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Joseph keeps talking about like he's the one who kind of created the collective and he didn't, but he did kind of bring it back.
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll give him some credit.
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the collective doesn't exist to the capacity it is without Joseph putting in the work he has.
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But.
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Tucker, of course, continues to talk about wanting Quinn out in case this has escaped your notice.
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker has gone from wanting Cedric from wanting Quinn out to wanting Cedric out back to wanting Quinn out.
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's basically been that way ever since he called him a dork at McDorkatron.
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Joseph is like, oh, yeah, totally.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what? I'm going to get Quinn no matter what I do.
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get him back. Tucker, don't you don't you worry when mortal enemy.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He later says to the cameras, this is a lie.
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker, not that he trusts Quinn, but he does not have a desire to take revenge upon Quinn like Tucker does.
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It reminds me a lot of like Kenny's plans.
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to show it like 18 different people he wanted to nominate right now, like Tucker's Cedric and Quinn feel like people he might nominate.
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But he also wants to nominate Quinn and Leah because he wants Quinn next to the love of his life.
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And then Joseph pitches this idea. We should keep Leah off the block because Cam and Leah will become a big threat down the line as a duo.
[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And it just kind of feels like they're both living in this like alternate dimension that doesn't exist yet.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think they landed and correct me if I'm wrong. Was it Quinn, Cedric and like Chelsea?
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea, yes. So this is this is the next part of the conversation, which is that Joseph is is.
[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's worth setting this up a little bit that we've talked about Chelsea and Brooklyn, two best positioned people in the house for a bit over close to two weeks now.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But we've talked a lot about they're not super active about this.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not like actively maintaining this position or solidifying anything or anything like that.
[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They've just kind of been in this position and they recently even more solidified their final two.
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They're now sharing secrets with each other. And quite frankly, it's getting obvious.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Lots of people are talking about it, but particularly Joseph is going to mention, hey, I think we need to be concerned about Chelsea and Brooklyn.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And they talk about like, well, they probably have a final two.
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And Joseph, of course, knows about the Pentagon.
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And so he even throws in like, hey, I think they're really tight with Cedric, too.
[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And I bet Cam is in there and these are people that we should be concerned about.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Joseph, I think, would love to just like if if if Tucker is a loose cannon, Joseph is trying to aim him in the direction of the Pentagon and hope that his looseness isn't enough to like as long as he hits one of those people.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph is fine.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting, though, because I think there is a difference about who gets targets for Joseph, because Joseph, I feel like had a pretty good relationship with Chelsea.
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's kind of like withered away since he found out about the Pentagon.
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he knows he's not in that core of the collective.
[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So he's almost like decided out of spite to a certain extent to like turn on the collective.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But I do agree where like if you're Joseph and you're trying to flip, you don't target Cam.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't target Quinn.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It has to be someone who's like integral to the alliance.
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's only Brooklyn and Chelsea are the people.
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you could add Cedric into that.
[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I don't think Cam is the worst target for Joseph because he doesn't have a great relationship with Cam.
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And Cam is sort of like the muscle of the group, so to speak, or at least a muscle of the group.
[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I do think that the Pentagon is still weakened by losing Cam.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, with, say, Cam and Chelsea on the block together or even just Chelsea on the block in general, there's a lot that you can do when you have like the person that's in the best position on the block.
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And so either way, like, you know, I actually don't love this idea of like Cam and Leah in the game together because they'll be a target.
[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's even really true anymore.
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And but either way, you know, this is Tucker we're talking about in terms of where he's angling Tucker.
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And who knows if that's going to even really be that effective?
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So but the point here is that they're still doing this.
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph is basically the only person in the game that Tucker hasn't ratted out in some capacity.
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So for what it's worth, that seems to be something.
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But, Taren, I'm curious how you think about this, because I feel like Joseph had Tucker at least insofar as Tucker was not going to target Joseph.
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's giving him so much information.
[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's Tucker where I feel like he's actively playing the middle, where I feel like Joseph should kind of passively play the middle, at least when it comes to Tucker, because it feels like a lot of information to trust with that guy.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's dangerous for sure.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But but also like Joseph doesn't actually have that much to lose.
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, like so I don't I don't mind it that much if he can wield Tucker as a weapon.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So be it if he can't and he gets caught, whatever.
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like he's actually in charge of the collective.
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say if he was actually in charge of the collective, then this is doing too much, probably.
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, what are you going to do?
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I talk, though.
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker's not having a great day.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker, we've talked about this before, but like I think part of Tucker's bold gameplay is that he doesn't actually want to be there.
[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't actually enjoy his time in the house.
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: He really wants to be evicted before jury or win the game and break the first and first.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He really does not want to get to go to jury.
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He just he hates a lot of things about the house.
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And when he's similar to Kenny, when he's not competing, I think he he gets he gets very agitated.
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And so he's going to be doing some like massaging of Rubina starts doing some like chiropractor stuff with like snapping and stuff like that.
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And production's like, hey, stop that.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That's you are not qualified to be.
[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We do not want you to break somebody's neck in our house.
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And and Tucker.
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Not fond of being told he can't do that, he's going to go off on a rant to production about how he hates being there and he can't do anything.
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And production sucks.
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm with Tucker on this one.
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I as somebody who's been in that house when Mr.
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: B's telling you to stop doing something that you know you can do.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I was doing cartwheels in the backyard and I'm getting like scolded.
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's at a certain point.
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to be told what to do by someone who gets to go home after their shift.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're in the house where the house guests.
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, like if Tucker ended up snapping Rubina's neck, the show is over.
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I think Tucker should be a little bit more understanding also.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to clarify, I think this is a great thing.
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they've been doing a pretty good job of trying to accommodate Tucker.
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Which I think a lot of people like criticize.
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Production's favorite.
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, stop showing favoritism towards him.
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: If someone can't sleep, give them earplugs, give them melatonin.
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the correct thing to do.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know if he necessarily like can shout from the standpoint of production.
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me live my life. You guys hate me.
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That is always the funny thing is that I feel like the production favorites are
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: always the like the people most mad at production all the time because like
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: they get the most from production, but also they want more.
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is which I like, I agree is fair.
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like but and that but at the same time, when it comes to stuff like this, we you know,
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: he's like, oh, man, I can't give piggybacks.
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what the hell?
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there was a bit of an incident with a piggyback not too long ago.
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's what's most devastating about Tucker is again, like you said,
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: he wants to be a pre jury or win, but it feels like the outer world,
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever God is controlling the BB game is fighting for their life to make sure
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: he's the first member of the jury.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe that's where the animosity comes from, where he's like he knows
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: where he wants to end and it seems like production has a different path in mind.
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, very much so. Yeah, I think that is very much the case.
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So there was another another thing yesterday as well.
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that you might have particular expertise in this,
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: that Quinn is a girl with a mustache a little bit.
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You see this like I can only defend him so much, Darren getting like, look,
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I think people blow the Quinn's trying to be Corey out of proportion.
[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But at a certain I got a text from Bowie Jane saying when he's drinking
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of Dr. Pepper, that's kind of weird, huh?
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So at a certain point, I think some of the comparisons people draw are ridiculous.
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Others are not. I remember this conversation with Quinn and T-Core.
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And T-Core was like, you want to know my honest opinion?
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yes, please.
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Do whatever you want, which is a no when it's a no.
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a no for me to know for you, please.
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That was such a perfect representation of T-Core as well, where she was like,
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: ask, can I be honest with you, Quinn?
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, yes, please. I want your honesty.
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she still couldn't be honest with it,
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: which is exactly what's happening at the moment.
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was not that I mean, if you could call it a mustache,
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I would I would think you'd probably not call it a great one.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you looking at my face camera right now, Taryn?
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like this, sometimes this is how it goes.
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: We work with what we have.
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess so. I guess so.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Is this this? Hold on. Let me let's see if I can.
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: How's how's it how's it coming right now?
[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, mine is like Quinn's except Quinn has like a big blank space here.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, maybe that'll be what fills in eventually.
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, listen, I feel like I feel like.
[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn's making your mustache look better.
[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Just saying. I'm trying to think of how funny the joke of leaving the studio
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: versus logistics of rejoining the studio would be.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, we just keep coming.
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: All right. Well, Leah is involved in some of the some of the stuff going on yesterday.
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: She's going to talk to various people, but particularly with Kimo and T-Core.
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: She lets them know that she again, we've said that we've talked about this before.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We're kind of being a little bit repetitive here, but she would love to or not love necessarily,
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but she would like to evict them.
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ over Cedric, MJ over Rubina.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Why? Because she's tall and she can win comps.
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But also we've talked about this.
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, she copies Leah a lot.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: She steals her jokes.
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: She's even Corey.
[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She's even started stealing her mannerisms.
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, here's the thing.
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Leah wants to get rid of MJ and she has a great strategy of doing so.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: She had a talk later in the day with MJ kind of coaching her how to play the game.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And playing by the Leah playbook is a surefire way to get yourself evicted.
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel I feel like she's perfectly on track to getting what she wants.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: The stealing jokes thing is what I take the most offense to because I promise all of Leah's material is not original.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: She's taken it from somewhere.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And like I found in the house, everyone takes each other's jokes and mannerisms.
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's like that's how you get like people saying ahoy on day 87 of Big Brother 25.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It just happens sometimes.
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But Leah, Leah takes it personally.
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think she's able to do that with a lot of houseguests.
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like her and Joseph have almost like become this like ball of fire in the house that she just directs towards anyone whenever she feels like it.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's sometimes fun feeds.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, she also does talk about Rubina.
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: She says that she doesn't think Rubina is a threat, but she does think she is unpredictable.
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And she talks about Rubina and Tucker and how, you know, just in general talks about that relationship and how, you know, it's like, hey, like she shouldn't really be with Tucker.
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's not good for her.
[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like all this is pretty interesting that she talked about having a crush on Tucker.
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But this whole crush stuff continues to be a thread with Tucker and the strategy revolving around Tucker.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But the point here is that she's not the biggest fan of Rubina still and is willing to be like, oh, she's not a threat.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But like I do still kind of want her.
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She almost painted it, though, kind of as you said, like Rubina shouldn't.
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not good for Rubina to be with Tucker.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Which I don't think that's her real perspective.
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think like say Rubina gets voted out this week and then Leah ends up flirting more with Tucker.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I think people are going to be clipping that conversation being like, really?
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like I mean, listen, she thinks she's slick.
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's really it's for Rubina's sake that I really feel like they shouldn't be together.
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: This is not good for you know, we don't want to see like Tucker is just going to beat her in the end and she's going to be seen as like Tucker's person.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, what happens if Tucker bats his eyelashes at Leah?
[00:19:39] No.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So T-Core and Keymode, they talk about talk about Leah some more.
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They they have now learned that they have confirmed that Brooklyn did tell Chelsea about five points.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, damn it.
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't we do that?
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're in trouble about this.
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: This is frustrating.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And it reminds them of, hey, the Pentagon exists.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we should be concerned about it.
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And hey, we've never been told about the Pentagon by anybody other than Quinn.
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's weird, right?
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's only like three weeks too late to be thinking about this, but like, that's fine.
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: T-Core feels left out that she was never included in it.
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like like I was right there.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was in the room with them early on and they did not bring me in.
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They've never told me about it.
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of lame that that happened.
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And Keymode is like, well, what if we just like blew it up?
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Not yet.
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, come on.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I will say, I think there's a lot more incentive for keymode to blow up the
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Pentagon than T-Core like T-Core has connections within their like T-Core is
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: pretty good with Cedric, pretty good with Chelsea.
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: They're both good with Quinn, but Quinn's not even good with the Pentagon.
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So like I do think that's going to become a bit of like an internal battle
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: between T-Core and chemo where ultimately both of them will probably end up doing
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: nothing.
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I think chemo does not have an end game path just whittling down to the
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_02]: collective and then to the Pentagon versus T-Core.
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_02]: If she just continues playing passively plays well, socially, I do think she
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_02]: could just kind of like fall into a pretty good position.
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she I mean, despite the fact that she wasn't brought in, she does have
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: good relationships there.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And it would likely be chemo that gets picked off first between the two of
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: them if they were to go down.
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So I do agree and I I do think it I mean, you know, I think it's it
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: definitely benefits chemo more than her to to break out of this current
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: structure because she does not have the best relationship with Tucker.
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And if Tucker becomes the center centerpiece of a new counter alliance
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: that is going to run the house.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That puts T-Core at the bottom and she's close to the bottom on the other
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: side, but she's not quite as far down on the bottom because she has Quinn
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: chemo and Joseph and a good relationship with Chelsea and Brooklyn.
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a lot more she has to work with on that side.
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that does not mean that she should let go of Rubina or the other side.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But I agree.
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that she has less incentive to do something dramatic here.
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But it does.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That also means like again, I and she says this to ultimately MJ is just
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: the best person for her to leave.
[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If it's between Cedric and Rubina, that's tougher.
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I do think she should take out Cedric.
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But but it's I think it's hard, especially when you're already a more
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: passive player to commit to a vote flip on a person that might not even be
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: there at the end of the week.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And you kind of get in the situation in Big Brother sometimes where like
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: the move is in front of you that you need to make.
[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You have to kind of flip the house a little bit.
[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Vote out Cedric.
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But you really wish someone other than Cedric was there.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure T-Corp would be a lot happier if Cam was sitting on the block.
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But ultimately, like you don't know when the next chance you're going to have
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: is the votes might be there.
[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I obviously like you, I bet don't think it'll actualize.
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think this is like a rare chance where they can take out Cedric.
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_02]: The problem is at that point, your cards are fully revealed.
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You talked earlier about how Cam would be a good target.
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the assumption there is Chelsea and Cedric would be like, OK,
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_02]: with getting rid of Cam.
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It would not be OK with getting rid of Cedric at this point.
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So it would really cause a divide in the house.
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's almost like, man, it would be great if Rubino wasn't on the block
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and maybe somebody like Leo was because somebody had told Quinn about
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_01]: things he was saying about it.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just I just thought it's like a pass.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Time to move on, Taren.
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Thought this could have been could have been that way.
[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So Quinn talks to Kimo and interestingly, he asks Kimo like,
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, is Tucker trying to like revitalize the underdogs alliance
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: just without me in it?
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And Kimo's like, no.
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn's like, really?
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that'd be pretty weird if he wasn't like that.
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't think so.
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It almost strikes me as like Quinn was in the DR and they're like,
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: what do you think would happen if the underdogs were revitalized without you?
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very specific.
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It was very odd.
[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's good instincts from Quinn.
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: If this is just like out of the blue, because of course that's it.
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's obvious.
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They also have been for what it's worth hanging out the four of them.
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: The four points I call them constantly.
[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So wouldn't be hard to spot either.
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that Kimo is denying it, you know.
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Not not not the greatest sign, but I say that.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But Quinn is just completely blinded to Kimo and T4.
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think at this point, Kimo says, listen, Quinn.
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We're not in an alliance.
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but don't you want to like rekindle things with Tucker?
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: We want to get back together.
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't that be great if we could do that?
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And and Quinn's like, I mean, I don't know if that's going to work.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe if Rubina helped facilitate this,
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: like she was like really getting in there with Tucker and convince
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker to like be chill with me, maybe.
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But but man, I don't know.
[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds that sounds kind of risky.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little gaslighting, too.
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like Quinn, Tucker, you guys reconcile your differences.
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like we had no differences until Tucker drew the most defiant line
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: in the sand to ever be drawn.
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But I truly do think Quinn as like a gamer,
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_02]: he let's a lot of this stuff roll off his back.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I think he'd be willing to do it.
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he just has no faith that Tucker ever will.
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that instinct is 100% correct, because what Tucker's been saying about
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn, like Quinn's heard some of like the he's a dork,
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: he's a nerd kind of lines and he takes it very well.
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But if it was somebody else, what Tucker's saying is certainly crossing
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: some lines like it's it's crazy.
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think the main thing for Quinn and he talks about this
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit later is that like even if he because I agree,
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that like person personally, like relationship wise emotionally,
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: he'd be perfectly willing to work with whoever he needs to advance himself
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: in the game.
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But the issue is that like it just doesn't benefit him to work with Tucker
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: beyond just Tucker not coming after him because he was working with Tucker
[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and Tucker just randomly started targeting him.
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He can't trust Tucker to not do that again.
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But beyond that, Tucker very clearly is very good at competitions
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and has like a circle of people who all have crushes on him
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that surround him that are all are a lot of the people that Quinn
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: wants to work with.
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So the longer Tucker is in the game, the worst Quinn's position is
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: just no matter what happens.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So it only and he says this to the cameras like it just benefits
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: other people for Tucker and me to be chill and mean to not be going
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: after Tucker doesn't benefit me.
[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But there's no reason for Tucker to not feel like him and Quinn
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_02]: or chill just because someone's like you got to have the compies
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: thinking you're on their side of this.
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And it does behoove Tucker to get Quinn off his back if he can.
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We know he can't but we know that Tucker has bigger fish to fry
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: in the Pentagon and Quinn could have been should have been a number
[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_01]: to strike against them.
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: If if Tucker had waited and just used Quinn to strike at the Pentagon,
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: which I think he would have been down for then struck at Quinn.
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that like Tucker actually could have been in a really
[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: really good spot.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay, I'm curious is a little off topic but just on Tucker's
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: game as a whole has he entered.
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I should just target the next strongest competitor mode or is it still
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: let me tactfully play the game to try to build my numbers.
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he's been in I'm going to just target it's it's
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: a combination of who's the strongest and who do I hate the most right
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: now? And so I think that that is just his overall strategy.
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's a terrible strategy either like waiting out from
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: the final 1413 feels impossible, but it becomes less impossible
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: when you get rid of Cedric and then Quinn and then cam and all
[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_01]: the sudden he's at the final whatever and when there's an AI or
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: when he's the instigator right worth noting as well though Quinn
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: does warn chemo that Chelsea suggested they evict Rubina over MJ
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: the day before now, this really was just like I criticized Chelsea
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: for being so passive about this.
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: She just brought it up as an option immediately was shot down.
[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But even that was enough for Quinn to now say hey Chelsea kind of
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe wanted Rubina out over MJ and and that is of course concerning
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: for chemo.
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's concerning for chemo.
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn was very concerned about this too, which the way I view it
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_02]: for chemo and Quinn is like chemo obviously needs to keep Rubina
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_02]: for Quinn.
[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: They're both targeting him.
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ is more likely to win a competition.
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I know Quinn was saying like that's the red flag.
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's that big of a red flag.
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously it makes sense for Chelsea, which maybe she's saying
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_02]: oh she's playing self-interestedly.
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: That's dangerous.
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't quite get Quinn's energy chemo.
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I totally get I agree.
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Quinn is just off.
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He is playing for the visionaries, but the visionaries are not playing
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: for him and and so because of that he's trying to keep Rubina actively
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and I really don't think he should be.
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he should want Rubina out like very actively.
[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He should be taking what Chelsea like.
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I was like of all people.
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's Quinn that shot this down when should have been like absolutely
[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: we're taking Rubina out over MJ, but but that is not how he sees
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: the game right now.
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He does not recognize that Leah is against him, but he also doesn't
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: recognize that chemo and T-Core are not really for him either at this
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: point in the same way that chemo at least chemo at least is very much
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: more so for Tucker.
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And so because of that like he does need to cut down on their numbers
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and he does need to lean more into the Pentagon collective side
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: of things.
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He just is I think set in his original thought process of this is my
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: endgame group and the Pentagon is not but he needed to shift.
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week basically this week.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So here's the thing I agree, but I kind of disagree in certain situations
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_02]: if Tucker wins Hoh and nominates Quinn Cedric cam for example,
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and he ends up on the block against Cedric and cam it's going to be
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: the visionaries bailing him out in that case and flipping on the Pentagon
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: certainly.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think you should ditch them by any means but like
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, will they even bail him out?
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't know that they would at this point.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So but even if you know, so like, you know, I think that like
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: actively if they if the house voted out Rubina over MJ, I don't think
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn takes the heat for that.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the Pentagon takes the heat for that and if anything
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: it makes it more likely that the visionaries bail him out because
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: they need him more.
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know that's that's I think how I how I see it, but
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah talks to Tucker Tucker, by the way, we've talked about this,
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but he still feels like he has the votes to take out Cedric.
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And so he's still campaigning to take out Cedric and and to make sure
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that Rubina has the votes to stay and so he's going to talk to Leah
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: about this and Leah talks more about Quinn and how annoying he is
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and how she would like to take Quinn out and like it's it's to the
[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: point now where like she just she can't she's like I can't even stand
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: being in the same room as him.
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Anytime Quinn walks into a room.
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: She leaves the room and he still doesn't seem to notice.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's he definitely notices something is wrong because this
[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: is not even just just Leah.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: There are a decent amount of people especially the day before we're
[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_01]: like Quinn's in a room.
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to be like it's it's wild how quickly Quinn went from like
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: the best social game in the house by far.
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wanted to work with him to near a house pariah now and he
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_01]: definitely is noticing, but I think he's in a little bit of denial
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: at this point.
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, in this conversation with Leah and Tucker, Tucker says, do you
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: want me to say something Quinn?
[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, please, like I'll take it from Tucker at this point.
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if it's not going to be to chemo, it's not going to be Leah for
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_02]: like Tucker just at least get this idea across because I do think
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn is in denial and I think it shows this like cool intersection
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: of the strategic and social game because Quinn did not become a
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: different person overnight.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn is Quinn.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He's acted very consistently in this like goofy.
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they called it like try hard kind of like matter all season.
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He has gotten much more that if that makes sense.
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: From my perspective, at least I feel like I do.
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I do.
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I do see what you're saying and I do agree to an extent.
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that like it's a like I think that he was in a very good
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: spot.
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody really liked him.
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They'd like his personality as after he was called out by Angela.
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You could tell that he was a little less comfortable and those smaller
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: shifts already.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think started wheels turning and people started looking at him a
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: little bit differently.
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And so he started acting a little bit different.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And then after the Tucker call out, I felt like he got much worse
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and and and now because I think it's I think it's spirals.
[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like this feedback loop where he's feeling like I need to I need
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: to make people like me more more more more and so like every time
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: he's interacting with somebody now, it's a bit like it's like, hey,
[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_01]: we're joking around.
[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You like me, right?
[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And the more he does that, the more people are turned off by him and
[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_01]: it just cycles and now it's it's reached this this pinnacle.
[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, from what I've seen it feels like a lot of the difference is
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: the reaction.
[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: He does the same bits and then people don't react in the same because
[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_02]: if people are laughing along, it's not awkward.
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's funny.
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's whatever.
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And then when he gets that like negative feedback, he keeps going.
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like telling a joke.
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_02]: No one laughs and then you're like, get it right?
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and like they never laugh then.
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So I do think like it's probably column A and column B but his social
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: game with Leah like I think he wants to get back to where they were
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: but at a certain point, he has to realize like.
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He can't understand the extent to which he despises him, but he can
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: definitely get the sense of like maybe I should just chill out a little
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: bit.
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't know if I've talked about this a ton.
[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I know we've mentioned it before but like sort of corresponding with
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_01]: right around the time Angela and him got into the fight and then
[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_01]: certainly once Tucker called him out his sleepwalking started and
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: has gotten worse.
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He has been sleeping up in the have-not room because he doesn't want
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: to like he's he's like like interacted with people.
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't want to wake anybody up.
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like can't stop himself from sleepwalking and talking and
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a very clear sign of like pretty severe anxiety that I think is
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: getting worse and worse in the house.
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think it's like it's pretty clear that there's a spiral
[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: happening and that I I think he again, it feels to me like he's trying
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: to.
[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Avoid thinking about like he's trying to like be like no, no, everything
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: is still fine.
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: People still like me look at me.
[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at my jokes, but like people are leaving and he's like no, it's
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_01]: no, it's everything's fine.
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the it's the meme with the fire like that.
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's Quinn right now.
[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I do feel for Quinn in that aspect like Big Brother is really
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: hard for every houseguest who walks into the house, but it affects
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: people differently.
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Tucker and Quinn are probably the two key examples of they're
[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_02]: not dealing with the pressure and the stress of the house.
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, obviously Kenny wasn't either Angela wasn't like
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a coincidence that we have four or five people spiraling by
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: week for like the house is really, really difficult and some of the
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_02]: worst nights I had in there were late night.
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone else is asleep and you just can't get there because there's
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: so much going on in your brain and knowing Quinn, I'm sure he feels
[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_02]: the exact same way, but I do think like moving on up to the have-not
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: room is the right call and he's kind of like chancing into a lot of
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_02]: these good decisions because he obviously doesn't have the information
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But like remember all the trash talking of Quinn.
[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He's moving into the girls room and he wants to spy on us and what not
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: he's kind of solved that problem by accident.
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So like it's a good call by him.
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I just hope he's able to figure this out.
[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope however, they accommodate Tucker.
[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_02]: They're able to figure out a way to accommodate Quinn.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, so Leah is talking about Quinn and how annoying he is to her and
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: how she wants to target him.
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But what's funny is that after she leaves, Tucker's like man, she doesn't
[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: even realize that she's winning me.
[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: She's the Quinn to me.
[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_01]: She's got a crush on me and she's annoying to me and I want her to
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: leave every time.
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So Kimo talks to Tucker and he again, he is also going to pitch
[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker.
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what if the two of us, or sorry, what if you and Quinn bury the
[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_01]: hatchet, start working together and Tucker's kind of like, and Kimo
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: says, because remember Kimo wants to out the Pentagon and he comes
[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: real close.
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm just, I think we need to be worried about Chelsea,
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Brooklyn, Pam and Cedric.
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it would be great if you and Quinn could stop going after each
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_01]: other because maybe that's a group that's really close that we should
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: be more concerned about.
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And, and you know, Tucker is Tucker who really knows how he's actually
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_01]: taking this in.
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But this is the second time today.
[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been warned about this particular group of people.
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Would he actually bury the hatchet with Quinn?
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But, but you know, it'll be interesting to see like if any of this
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: starts to to sink in a little bit with the time.
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me know you think, Taryn.
[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Tucker unimpeded by other people's words and opinions, if he
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_02]: could just have his way, might target Brooklyn.
[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: If he voices his skepticism, every conversation.
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that like,
[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he wants Quinn gone first, but I do think he would
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_01]: target Brooklyn.
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he would target.
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he keeps going like the thing about him wanting to target
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam and Cedric is that he doesn't actually want to target Cam or Cedric.
[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He wants to work with them.
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He made an alliance with them for a reason.
[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He just got pissed that they turned him down and then started talking
[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: about targeting them.
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But like the reality is that he really wants to work with them.
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think he will consistently back away from targeting them
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: because they're the bros and he has always wanted to work with the
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: bros.
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they just keep like, Cam is so obvious that he doesn't want to
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: work with them.
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Cedric actively turned him down.
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And so he's like, no, then I have to target you.
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But wait, what if we didn't?
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Like those are the people he could bury the hatchet with.
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn, not a bro.
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Not going to happen.
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Despite how much Quinn talks about his athletic ability and I feel
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_02]: like he's had more sports conversations in the past two days than I've
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: had my entire duration in the house, but I don't think it's fooling Tucker.
[00:40:24] Yeah.
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So Teeqour and Quinn talk and they do agree.
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Quinn still agrees.
[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I want to flip on the collective.
[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to make this move and we should do it soon, but just not quite
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_01]: yet.
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They're both on the same page, but it's not quite yet.
[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And so, so they're still, they're still kind of there.
[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And when Teeqour talks to Kimo again, they discuss the possibility of
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_01]: flipping on Cedric to keep Rubina.
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But Teeqour does kind of push back.
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't know if this is the right move at this time.
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we should probably talk to Quinn more about it.
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Kimo's like, well, Chelsea did suggest, according to Quinn,
[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: voting out Rubina over MJ.
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And Teeqour's like, whoa, if that's true, maybe we do need to flip on Cedric.
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But we definitely need to talk to Quinn more about it.
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just tough though, because it really doesn't benefit Quinn to vote out Cedric.
[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It really doesn't benefit Teeqour even. Like it could certainly.
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a path. Over Rubina, I think for Teeqour, it makes sense, but
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_01]: certainly not over MJ.
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just like a really challenging spot because you can
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_02]: gather these votes, but the votes you're going to gather are not going to form
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_02]: into a cohesive group and you're going to alienate so many people.
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And Chelsea is not going to flip from her.
[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't see the numbers actualizing, especially if like, again,
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: like Quinn's kind of the poisoned apple here.
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't have these conversations with Quinn and expect to reach your
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_02]: destination. If it's just Teeqour and Kimo meeting of the minds, we're going
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_02]: to flip this vote and get the numbers.
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn's going to go in and push back and they're two passive players to say
[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_02]: screw you Quinn, we're doing it anyways.
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think especially if you're able to somehow, if you're able
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_01]: to get Quinn on board, the play is you gather the numbers, you vote out
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Cedric. And then when Chelsea and Brooklyn and Cam were the only people
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: left outside of that vote, come to you like what the hell Teeqour?
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes, well, sorry.
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Numbers, first, the numbers weren't there.
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Second, Quinn told me you guys had an alliance without me.
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And what can they do at that point?
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: There's three, there's three people.
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They are in the defensive position now.
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_01]: They need any number they can get.
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And now you are their connection to the power structure and you hold them
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: in a spot where it's like, okay, well maybe we can still work together.
[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really love Tucker.
[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't love Angela.
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I still want to work with you guys.
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It was just that I felt betrayed and you know, I think they just have to get
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: over this effort.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you just force them into that position.
[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_02]: In this week's episode of Tequimo Fan Fictions.
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Very, very much not how Teeqour plays the game.
[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It would be good though.
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's basically it.
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: There's obviously again a lot of conversation about this.
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Somehow Teeqour and Quimo, I think did manage to get people excited about
[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_01]: a potential flip before they eventually realized it's probably not going
[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: to happen.
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But I will definitely keep you updated if it actually goes anywhere.
[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But as of right now, the possible flip has not gone anywhere.
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like just to be clear, there was talk of it but the talk was only between
[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Teeqour and Quimo and that's like a fantasy land.
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't actually exist until it goes beyond the two of them and it
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: hasn't yet.
[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So don't get your hopes up if you're hoping for a flip, what I would
[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_01]: say.
[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_02]: No, the flip meter is not on.
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not turning but they did like find it in the attic and are considering
[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: dusting it off.
[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's about as far as we've got.
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were like man this was used a lot last season, but nobody's
[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: touched it since.
[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Corey, anything else you wanted to bring up from yesterday?
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any theories about the instigator?
[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Not, I just like here's my thing.
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like when they announce twists without telling us what they
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_01]: are and I don't like speculating about it either because it's like
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: it could be anything like who knows like we can like all we will do
[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_01]: by speculating is either catastrophize by thinking about what's the
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_01]: worst possible thing or disappoint ourselves by thinking about what
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the cool things they could be doing but they definitely won't.
[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It is kind of genius just in the sense of like we have to keep watching
[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_02]: episodes to find out what the twist is and then we need to keep
[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_02]: watching episodes to figure out who's going to get the twist via
[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the episodes edit.
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So like in a weird way, this whole like kind of like jerking us
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: around has made us watch the episodes.
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you watch all of them but like I feel like I need to watch
[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_02]: to figure out what's going to happen this season.
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So they got me.
[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we are very much Angela approaching production with taking
[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever scraps they give us.
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I can feel on the bottom.
[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll take whatever we can get is fine.
[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we've got then that is that is yesterday on the feeds.
[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I will of course be back tomorrow morning 11 a.m.
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Eastern to update you and everything that happens today on the big
[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_01]: brother 26 live feeds including if a flip actually happened.
[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And then tomorrow night eviction, but first tonight's I'll be on
[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Twitch watching the episode live with all of you and then live
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_01]: after the episode with Corey.
[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got Jag on tonight.
[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, so you're telling me you had Bowie last episode Jag this
[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: episode.
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Are we doing the Mafia trifecta?
[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I think two out of three is good enough for the Mafia.
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I would agree with you.
[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen somebody like I think the quote, you know joining the Mafia
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt does get erased from that quote when Bowie does cameos.
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It's you know, how has your game changed for the better once you
[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_01]: joined Mafia with Corey and I right?
[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think it's just a new Mafia.
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They're always have a high turnover rate.
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that right?
[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I've heard.
[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, interesting.
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Makes sense.
[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll hear what what Jag has to say when he's not reading from
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: the script.
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It was so fun.
[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I was watching the episode and I really wanted to criticize
[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Jag because it's fun to criticize Jag and he was yeah this like
[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: quote where he's like some players are playing really poorly, but
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: others are doing pretty well.
[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like this is exactly how it was strategizing with Jag and
[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: the Big Brother has to a tee.
[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even sure it was scripted.
[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it was but you know, well, we'll we'll chat with Jag
[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_01]: tonight.
[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be a fun time.
[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So tune in for the recap and then of course again tomorrow night
[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: eviction and I'll be live on Twitch for that as well and then
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: recapping it after so check all of that out.
[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Corey, what do you got going on?
[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Twitch.tv slash Corey Wartenberger.
[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I stream every other day basically about Big Brother.
[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Patreon.com slash AmeriCorey.
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: We're about to start our Big Brother 7 rewatch meet America and
[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_02]: then kind of excitingly today in a couple hours, we will be
[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_02]: interviewing Felicia talking about the new season and RC's and
[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: all those things.
[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So if that interests you check it out.
[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_01]: She turned around on Angela yet.
[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I heard she was an Angela hater.
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_02]: All I saw was I saw her tweeting about how the BB 25 edit did
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_02]: her wrong and I immediately sent a text.
[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like we got to talk about this.
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: This is sounds like a good conversation.
[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you all so much for joining us here today and I will
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: see all of you next time.