BB26 Wed Recap: Jag on Big Brother 26, Ep 14

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey everybody, what's going on Rob Cesternino back here on a Wednesday night to talk about some more

[00:00:15] [SPEAKER_04]: BB26 Vito Edition and a very special episode of the podcast of course back here with Taren

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Armstrong. Taren, how are you? Rob, we are so back. We're so back. So back Rob. We're

[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_04]: so back. We never left here every night this week because a lot going on here and we've

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_04]: got a great guest here with us. Boy, I hope that this guy is excited to be here as he was

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_04]: to meet Ainsley yesterday. Please welcome the winner of BB25, Jack Baines. Jack, how are

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: you? Jack Baines, I'm doing great. How are

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_04]: you? Yeah, very excited. Nice to have you here and get your take on everything. Although

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: last night you were on a podcast that was seen by way more people, Big Brother 26.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I mean, that was pretty wild and seeing Ainsley in person

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_02]: she does look as crazy as she looks on the screen. It's kind of wild. I felt like I was

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: meeting a celebrity personally. It was pretty fun. But it was a lot of fun.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. Well, it's very fun to have you here after you were on the recap show last night

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_04]: with Taylor and Cody. And so I'm excited to have you weigh in here on another guy who wins a lot

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: of comps in Tucker. So a lot to talk about here with Jack. We'll take your questions in the chat

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: here tonight as we get ready for Taryn, believe it or not, another eviction night coming up tomorrow,

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_03]: AI Arena. Yeah. It's going to be a wild one. And I just can't help but think that

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack somehow got the downgrade because he went from last night talking to Taylor and Cody.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And tonight he's with me. Did you get downgraded, Jack? No, no, no. This is

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: the power. This is this is this is me saying yes to bringing Ainsley into the house. Okay.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you don't have to put a costume on or anything. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Okay. Jack, how's everything going outside the house this summer?

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything has been good. Like life is life is busy, but in the most fun and exciting way. I'm

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: back home in Omak right now. So, you know, seeing my family and friends, which is always a good

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: time, but no complaints on my end. And it's been fun just like watching this new season kick off.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I feel like after being in the house, there's like a new perspective that I have,

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: you know? So it's like seeing all all the feeds and like everything that goes into it.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's so fun. Okay. And it can be very consuming. So Jack, on Sunday night,

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Taryn and I caught up with Bowie Jane. And so we're catching up with

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_04]: so much of the mafia this week. So third of the mafia. So Jack, Bowie is very into

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_04]: watching the feeds now that she's out of the house. How much feeds are you watching now?

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm also watching them a good amount. And I didn't watch the feeds before ever. I would just

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: watch the episodes. So this is the first season that I've been watching the feeds and it's fun.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And it is also very consuming. And I don't know, I just love it. I feel like there's

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: like so much context. I think I realized coming out of the house and seeing what the

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: episodes were like versus what my experience in the house was like, like there's so much

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_02]: context that's missed from just the episodes. And so I just feel like it's important to know

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_03]: what's going on and stay updated that way. Yeah, I do feel like when people come out of the house,

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: they tend to either just completely disengage from the show because for very understandable

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: reasons, like whether they had a positive or negative experience, it's like it's a lot. It's

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: a lot, right? Or I think I think it's a similar experience to you. Or it's like, well,

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: now I know what the show is, what the edit is. And if I really want to be in this,

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to know what's actually happening. Yeah. Yeah. I think for sure. I think that and like,

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I can relate to everyone in the house a lot more. Like I know the feeling of being

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: in there and the feeling of walking in or like, I don't know, the paranoia that you saw in

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: the house early on it and still now too. That's very real. And I remember being in their shoes

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: just last year. And so it doesn't feel too distant. And so it's cool. It's just been fun to watch everything.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So this episode tonight was really all about the entire house working against trying to get

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker out, trying to figure out all these ways to get into not win the comp. Everybody is working

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_04]: against him. Have you related to Tucker in any ways so far watching BB26?

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, Tucker is playing such a bold and crazy and dumb and fun game. And it's like,

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I love it. Personally, as a viewer, I love it. I think obviously you're seeing him beast out on

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: comps. And that's something that like, you know, you saw me winning a lot of comps during my

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: season as well. So in that sense, it definitely is relatable. But he's also making a lot of

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: wild moves that like, you know, like I wouldn't make it. I don't know if anyone during my season

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: would have made those moves or in many seasons, you know, it's very rare when we see him win the

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: veto and not using on himself and blindside the person that he's using it on, you know,

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: like you saw Angela's face and she's like so dramatic and shocked, you know?

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So I would say like yes and no, you know, I definitely can relate to it in some ways. But

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: other things, I'm just so curious what's going on in the mind of Tucker.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Jack, would you ever consider not using the veto on yourself?

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that makes sense. Like I just don't see a reason why and like

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: what I will say is that like this is not a normal season. Like his season is not my season

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: or other seasons where there wasn't this BB AI arena comp doesn't make his decision to not use his

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: the veto on himself like any better. Maybe very slightly because you know,

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: his argument is that like, Hey, I feel confident that I can win this comp and I might be the only

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_02]: one that can beat the person that I want to go home. And so I'm going to stay here and you

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_02]: know, he takes that risk and the risk pays off. Whereas in my season, for instance,

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: why would someone not use the veto on themselves? It would literally be because

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I have the votes to stay over this other person, which to me is way more flimsy of an

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: argument. So like there's something there. I don't think it's enough to justify not using

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: veto on yourself, but it works. It works for him. So it's just been fun.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Jack, would you be able to beat Tucker in binary bridge?

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Jack

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: In binary bridge? Well, I think we're going to have to test it. I feel good about it.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to lie. I think sometimes like even watching my season back and seeing

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_02]: like the episodes where you get to see some of those like individual comps, right? You

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: don't see other people play those. And I see some people doing the comps. They're like jogging.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I was sprinting every single comp. Like for me, it was like, I'm running back and forth as I have

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever strategy on like how to win the comp in my mind. I think like even in this cast,

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm seeing Tucker that's like running harder than other people. Is he sprinting? I don't know.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I like literally think that like, I saw it and I was like, I think this would be close.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're completely right. Like that makes all the difference is just

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_03]: just doing it faster. Like and it's wild to me how many people who are capable of doing it faster

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: don't for instance, watching Cedric like stand there like slowly choosing Tyla.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's scary, Tara. Did you see what happened to all those people on Squid Game?

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you see what happened to the sun?

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_04]: People were supposed to go and jump from behind him.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy. I think it's, I think it's things like that, right? Like it seems like, oh,

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_02]: this next decision feels real important. You don't go fast until time is running out.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like for the right, but like the fact of it is it doesn't fucking matter if you go

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that. Am I allowed to cuss? I don't know if I'm allowed to cuss.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, we're going to let Jag be Jag, okay?

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: The fact of the matter is it doesn't matter if you go left or right. All that matters is you go

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: forward. And so you have no time to think about it. Just like implement a strategy stick

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to it. If you're on the left side, keep going on the left side until it doesn't work.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know how far you went till it didn't work. And now you go to the other side.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to like, you know, obviously like

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker had a good strategy where he was like, I'm counting how many. So I flip. That's a good

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_02]: strategy. And like, I think it's important like in any competition, like it's not just about like,

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, Tucker is running a little faster. Maybe he wants it a little more.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think he also had a strategy. I think that's what makes the biggest difference in

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_04]: any competition. But Taren, is this not a metaphor for BB 26 as a whole where Tucker

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: is going to go as fast as he can. He is doing whatever eventually he gets where he needs to get.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, the other players who are going up against him,

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_04]: do I go left? Do I go right? What do I do? What do I do? I don't want Tucker to win. So

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah. Yeah. And if this was really the squid game version, you know, Tucker would have fallen

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: a lot. But the other side also would have fallen. Like it's because at the end of the day,

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: you just have to make a decision at some point. And that is the problem with a lot of the people

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_02]: in this house. Yeah. Yeah. I do think in this competition, my favorite part, and I was already

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_02]: thinking about this is like, why don't you just copy the other person until they're at

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the end? And we saw that little standoff happen. And I'm like, this is like actually

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: so key. Like that in some comps, you can really game it to the point where you're like, okay,

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just match whatever you're doing. Like you went left or I'll go left or you messed up.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll go to the other side. Like, and this comp is one of them where it doesn't the first 90%

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't matter as long as you can like get there and you can copy the other person if they're

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_02]: there. It's like trying to spell out a word and like you all have the same letters like,

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: okay, cool. If I know the answers are certain word, we just don't know what letter it ends

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: with. Do 90% of the letters and you just wait to see like, what do they go with? And I'm going

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_04]: to go with the other one. We ended up on this episode where Tucker won the veto. There was

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_04]: some questions about whether he was going to use the veto. Ultimately, Rabina gets put up on the

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_04]: block as a replacement nominee. She seemed upset, certainly that she went up on the block.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But there was not much reaction from Tucker, Terran. Did Tucker care that Rabina was put on the block?

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He knew that she was going to be put on the block and there was the hope. It's really,

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_03]: it's a little strange the way they edited it because they showed Brooklyn like having this

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_03]: plan of using Rabina to prevent Tucker from like maybe wanting to win the A. I.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Plan, like the bulk of the plan came post-Veto win, which was get Rabina to convince Tucker to

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_03]: not use the veto on himself in order to protect Rabina. I personally felt like that wasn't the

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: play. The better play was to hype Tucker up about like, hey, only you can face off against

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Cedric, which was what he was saying to Quinn like, oh, I want to maybe finish the job.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But ultimately, he let Rabina know like, hey, sorry. I'm going to use it on myself. You're going to

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_04]: have to go up. Yeah. Jack, do you think that if Rabina goes that Tucker could get more locked in

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: or is this a valid way to attack him? No. I mean, look, Rabina's obviously

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: locked in with Tucker. And so getting rid of Rabina, let's say it still helps,

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, the other side's case in terms of getting rid of him. Do I think

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker is going to be more locked in? Like what do you mean by that? Like,

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So I would say maybe he's distracted if Rabina is still in the house.

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the dude is locked in. We're seeing him. He's, I feel like

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_02]: you think I'm not locked in, Rob? He's so locked in. Like he literally has so much confidence in

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: himself and he to the point where he's like, this is the move that needs to be made and

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to make it happen. You know what I mean? Like I think Rabina leaving might just like

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: piss him off more. But then again, you never know in a house like this, like if Rabina is his

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: main person that he like confides and spends a lot of time with, then if she leaves,

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. We'll see how he might do it for Rabina.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_02]: He might, he might, but then like I also wonder like what about like, you know,

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: how Kenny was feeling where he's like, I kind of want to go home or like, is it worth it?

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like I worry, I worry about that, but I don't see that coming from Tucker,

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: but you never know. Rob, I think Tucker needs more distraction.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. I think the more locked in he is on the gameplay. That's bad. That's bad. We need to

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: be distracted more. Yeah. You know what's funny tonight was that we got us. Now Angela is the

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: full on Tucker cheerleader. Like I'm really curious to know, Terran, if that Facebook

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_03]: turnaround has fully happened yet. It's probably hasn't fully happened yet, but I'm telling

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_03]: you, I think it's going to, the threads, the comments being posted of like, Hey guys,

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_03]: you think Angela is maybe not that bad? I'm telling you they're coming. Yeah.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Jack, you were saying last night that youth are hoping for Angela to get to the end.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that was absolutely a joke and they just got in there. You don't want Angela to get to

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: the end. No, here's what it is. First of all, we were in there like we're talking for like

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: two hours plus and you know, they clipped whatever I was saying. Well, like Angela and Tucker,

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I want them to be at the final two that makes it to the end. That's like me wanting like the most

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking of like, what are all the chaotic outcomes of this season? And if somehow

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Angela and Tucker make it to the end, that will have been the most chaotic season to me.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how they could possibly make it there is the issue.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Kennedy in the chest. I've been seeing pro Angela Facebook posts.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh boy. Terran, you manifested it.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm the prophet of casual viewers. Yeah. I know what they're feeling mostly because

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: the audience. But it's so interesting. Jack, that show last night was showing all the things

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: that made people not like Angela in the first place. So this is so confusing for people.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, obviously the show was the show was essentially a recap of all the things that

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: all the things that have happened. And most of things early on it was like Angela and and Tucker.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: That was like that was the conversation that we were having, right? And like

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Angela being like as wild as she was the first couple of weeks, like that's what the conversation

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: is going to revolve around. I think I think it's stemming from like Tucker being so bold

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: with the moves that he's making that it's like fun to see. Like as a viewer, it's just fun.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I could see why people are like rallying behind Tucker. I mean, even for me, I'm like,

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: look, he's making these crazy moves. I think it led to the most like historic veto meeting

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that I've seen. And so it's like, let's keep it going. You know?

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. I watched the show with my son. He's 10 very taken with Tucker. The star of the show.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: He said not Joseph. Tucker is the star. I love that. Routing hard for Tucker.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker's fan base is 10 year olds. Yes. He loved it. He loved it. So we saw a little bit of people

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: trying to work around Tucker in this episode. We got a little bit about Joseph and Taren,

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_04]: we saw the collective, the alliance put together by Joseph.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. The first half of this episode really prior to the veto competition was mostly just like

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: catch up. It was like here are all of the things we didn't show when they were happening that

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: are very relevant to what has been happening. There's the collective. There's a final two.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: There's an alliance here. This is this happened, which is nice because it's a lot of the critics

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_03]: is very necessary. Yes. The critics, the Joseph and Tucker final two are the critics versus the

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: taste makers. Listen, the critics, they make some decisions that I don't know if you

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: can beat me and Joseph in a comp. But yeah, it was nice to see the information that will be

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: required I think for this week to make sense and certainly how things are moving forward.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_03]: They tend to do this too, especially in the beginning of seasons where when things are

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_03]: very chaotic, they just kind of like throw their hands up and they go, it's too much to

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_03]: follow right now. And once things finally start to solidify, they're like, okay,

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_03]: so here are the things that ended up surviving. Those are the things we're going to tell you

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: about. Yeah. All right. So just to stay with the critics for a second, we see Joseph and Tucker,

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_04]: they're talking, Tucker says he gets along with all different types of people,

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_04]: but he could get along with somebody like Joseph who's not like him at all. But he says, hey,

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_04]: if Dan and Ian could work together in season 14, who's who? Yeah. Who's the Dan and who's

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: the Ian? I can tell you, Joseph sees himself as the Dan. Yeah. But I think Tucker also sees

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_03]: himself as the Dan. And I can tell you neither one is his Dan. Yeah. And neither one is Ian.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But like the funny thing is the comparison is so much better if he does Dan and Memphis.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that is a much closer comparison, but I don't think he watched that scene. No.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think he thinks he's Memphis. I mean, he's not that far off from Memphis.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think he thinks he's Dan. Yeah. I guess so. I don't know. I don't know.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph is a big nerd and is Ian. He's definitely more of the Ian. I mean,

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Ian was the comp beast of the two of them. Yeah. What do you think about Joseph, Jag?

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think we're seeing some more gameplay happen. I think like early on I was sort of just

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: like waiting to see more from not just Joseph, you know what I mean? Just like, I think early

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_02]: on in the season we saw Angela and Matt and then Lisa and Tucker and, you know, like them take up a lot

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: of space and energy and conversations because of that. So it's nice to see more of Joseph

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: on there and like, I think it's interesting that he has obviously has the critics with

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker, which they had to show because Tucker chooses Joseph for the veto and that doesn't

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_02]: make any sense if you're only watching the episode so far. Right? And so I think it makes sense that

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: they're showing that. I think Joseph is in a unique position and so are like a lot of these other

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_02]: people that are like outside the Pentagon. You know what I mean? They have like decisions that they

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: can make, which is like, do we rock with like the collective, let's say, or are we trying to

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_02]: build some other power alliance to go against this Pentagon that exists? And so

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. I'm hoping to see some things happen. Yeah. Jack, I think your shirt is very

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph-esque. Honestly, you know, I thought about this. I feel like I saw Joseph, he had like

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_02]: a similar shirt to this. I vibe with that style. Yeah.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Maybe Joseph is copying you. Hey, you know what? I'll take it.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I mean, the mustache is a start, right? Like, he can get there eventually.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. It's like partially he has this part of my face. It's a part of my face.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_04]: We saw a lot of Quinn in the diaries. Speaking of a mustache twirling, Quinn,

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: that he's hoping that the mustache comes in so that he can twirl it and really be in his

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_04]: villain era of going up against Tucker. His plans were foiled tonight when Tucker won the veto.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Jack, how do you feel about Quinn? I'd say Quinn. So before the whole season started,

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: when we just saw the pictures and the pre-season diary rooms, Quinn was like my pre-season

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: winner pick. Yeah. Just because of everything that he was talking about in the DRL. I was like,

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: damn, he seems like he is so locked into the game. Whereas you saw Angela talk about it. She's

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: like, I'm excited to go in the Big Brother house because I have never been to a slumber party

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: or a summer camp. And that's what I can't wait to experience that.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And my initial reaction to that was like, okay, well, here you have people like Angela that are

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: just there for a good time. And I'm like, they're not going to survive. And you're like, the house

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: is going to chew them up and spit them out. And boy was I wrong about that because if that's

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: how she is at summer camp. Slumber parties, yeah. That's why. But Quinn on the other hand,

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: seemed like he had, he was already thinking about strategies going in. I think

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: did Quinn overplay everything is the main question. Like he has a lot of alliances.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And we saw a lot of that blow up happen last week with his power and all of that. And

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: he ends up staying. So those alliances pay off. He gets the votes to stay this week.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think he, he's in like the most unique position in the house, I would say. Right? Like

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: he's in the Pentagon. He's in the visionaries. He's locked in with a lot of people that want

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: him to be on their side, but maybe he's not their number one. He's sort of like,

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: it's been a little messy and so they might not trust them fully, but enough for now to be like,

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, like go after Tucker, you know. So we got to see Quinn's nominations play in the veto

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_04]: ceremony. Tara, I know you talked about this a little bit on the live feed update, but to me,

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_04]: this does really seem like an unforced error on Quinn's part to have put Tucker into the veto

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_03]: comp. Yeah. I mean, his explanation at the time was well, he's going to be able to compete in

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_03]: the AI arena competition anyway. So, so what's the point? But like, you know, the easy response to

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_03]: that as well, two competitions is a lot better than one competition for Tucker. So like, yeah,

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I think, I think a big part of this was that he did not want to have to put up more ponds.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But like, he had Cedric as a volunteer. He had already made it fairly clear that he was willing

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_03]: to put up Rubina. So like, it was just, it was pretty obvious to just do Rubina Cedric MJ. Now,

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I will say there's a little bit of validity to the idea that like, he didn't get to choose who

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: or he couldn't compete himself in the veto competition or guarantee himself a spot in the

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: veto competition. And therefore, if he puts like Rubina up on the block, and there was a little bit

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_03]: of like, at the time there was it was unclear whether or not Angela would have a guaranteed spot

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: in the veto competition. And so if Angela and Rubina both would pick Tucker, if they had the

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: option. And then it's like, does he get a chance to play? But but at the end of the day,

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah, I think this just should have been a backdoor. And everyone now is like, yeah,

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: we probably should be backdooring in the future. Yeah, I think that's literally those are my exact

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: thoughts when I when I saw that those were the nominations, I was like, there's this will backfire.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, there's no way you put Tucker into two comps. One of them, which is a veto comp,

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_02]: right? Like one in six chance if you're just rolling the dice. And then you have an AI

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_02]: arena comp, one in three chance a lot better odds. And if you're someone like Tucker, who we've seen

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: be so dialed in with these comps, and maybe he's moving faster, or maybe he has a better strategy

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_02]: in the comps or whatever it is. That's you're giving him a lot of chances. And so

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, I get that with with Quinn not wanting to get more blood on his hands.

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, we've we just saw the worst case scenario happen, right? Tucker wins. He has to

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_02]: put up Rubina anyway. And so it didn't accomplish anything.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Jack, last night you were one of the first people to find out about the new twist that's

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: coming to the game. The AI instigator did Ainsley give you any other info about what

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: the AI instigator is going to be all about? No. And I'm so mad about it because

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought Ainsley and I were cool. You know, I thought she had chatted to us at the beginning,

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: then she pops in again and she's like, Hey, there's this twist. And I thought I was going to hear

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_02]: more. Literally nothing. So I'm as in the dark as everyone else and also just theorizing

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_04]: about stuff. All right, so I know Tyrone doesn't want to speculate on what the twist could be.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But are we sure that the three nominees in the AI arena is going to end? Because I'm

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_04]: getting the sense that in the way that we like, you know, they're talking about the season,

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that production is feeling like AI arena is a big success. And I wonder that

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: could the AI instigator be in charge of the third nominee? Is that possible? The HOH names two

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: nominees and then the instigator secretly adds a third nominee on Eviction Night?

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's possible. Like it right. It's a big brother. They can do whatever they want

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_02]: to do, whatever they feel is good with doing. But like the only thing that I think of is like

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the name itself, which is like instigator to me, that feels very much like the things that we missed

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_02]: in the deep fake HOH where Quinn was supposed to be able to spread misinformation and lies that

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_02]: like throughout the house. And we didn't see that at all. So I wonder if there's something

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_02]: there where they like, they still want to use the hologram. You know, you have that big

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: this season and like spread some misinformation. It feels very like not competition focus as much

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: as it is like chaos agent focus, you know, you're instigating something in the house. So

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure what it will be, but I'm also just just waiting to see when they release

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_04]: more information tomorrow night. We'll find out more, but Taryn, that twist aside, do you feel

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_04]: like that the AI arena will be over after tomorrow? I don't think so. I think we're keeping the AI

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_03]: arena for now. I think if we were going to get rid of it, maybe we wouldn't have heard about it

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: last night, but like I feel like I feel like there's no reason to get rid of it yet. There's

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: similar twists. Sometimes they end soon, but usually it was just when they're not working.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Like battle of the block originally went for like eight weeks. And then when it came back,

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_03]: it went for another five. So like, you know, I think they'll go at least

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_03]: back as fan favorite battle of the block, fan favorite battle of the block. So

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we're keeping it. That's my guess. Okay. All right. Tomorrow night, we should find out

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_04]: what's going on with the AI instigator that America is going to get the chance to vote on.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: We got down to in the finals, we got to see Tucker versus Cedric and Taryn, this was the

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_04]: battle that Tucker said he wanted. He wanted to see Cedric. He was going to take him on

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_04]: head to head at the AI arena. Instead, it's the finals of the veto comp.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. It is kind of, it is a little strange to me to be like, listen, you and me big brother

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_03]: backyard, a soft just the two of us. I'm going to beat you man to man. Yeah. I got you

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_04]: on the power pad. Oh, suck it.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I danced on the squares better. Yeah. I beat you at dance dance revolution.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And then Tucker in the diary room was like after he won the power veto. Yeah. It's such a weird

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_04]: teller. He's like, Hey, Cedric wants this. Oh, I got something behind your ear. Like what are

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_02]: you my uncle? I think Tucker lets all of his intrusive thoughts win. I think like

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that's also what makes him fun. I think like he's, that he's just doing everything he wants to

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_02]: in the DR and in the house. He just has no filter. I think it's, I think it's funny as hell.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Would you like being in the house with somebody like that, Jag?

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_04]: No. Who is the closest from BB 25 that there was to Tucker?

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: That there was to Tucker? I don't know if we had any Tucker archetype in our season because I'm

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to think of someone that's like so chaotic and out there and like making these crazy moves.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't, I think they did great with casting is what I'll say. I don't think there's

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: like, I don't think there was a Tucker or season. Do you, do you have a take on who

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: you think the, the no, I can't think of who it would be. There's not a lot of such a unicorn.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I think, I think like ironically one of Quinn's favorite players was J. Swiry

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_03]: from BB five. And I feel like, I feel like Tucker's got some J cinnam for sure.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I know people have said some Zach Rance as well. Yeah. Maybe it may be it is maybe

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_04]: it's a combo of like Jason Zach. Yeah. I think that Zach is a really good call for who this is,

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_04]: this like a chaotic energy. Although I feel like that Zach and I, from what I understand,

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that maybe Tucker is not like as stable as possible, but I feel like that Zach had

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_04]: like a lot of like crying and was like, was really, was having more meltdowns. But

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_04]: from what I understand Tucker is not necessarily immune from that.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Well, his meltdowns are more Jace like,

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_03]: drop it. Can you not imagine Tucker holding on onto a button on the face of his cardboard cutout

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_04]: being like, because I can with like a Mohawk. You know what I mean? Like,

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, I think that Jace had like the same look as Kenny with the hat hair

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_03]: with his visor. No, that was when he came back to big brother Canada. Oh, that's right. Okay.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: So all right. Quinn was shook that he cannot beat Tucker. Jag. Are you talking about in

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_02]: after Tucker wins the veto? Wait, he was shook that way. You're saying Quinn were shook

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that he can't beat Tucker? No, that was Tucker keeps winning. Can't get over. Oh, yeah. I mean,

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: where's the shock? You know what I mean? This is a pattern that we're seeing Quinn saw it coming,

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: the whole house saw it coming and like it's so it's written on the wall. I mean, you know,

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: you know this is going to happen. You know, it's very likely that he'll

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_02]: come out with the win. If you put him into a competition like that, because they've seen

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: it now, I think like, yeah, I think it's right now with Tucker. He's like a shooting star. You know

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_02]: what I mean? Like in the season, like he is just going and he's burning bright and it's flashy and

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: it's fun. But it is true. Like what Quinn mentioned to where he's like, well, I'm going to get you

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: out next week. And if not then the following week and then all when it's always to fall,

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_02]: you know what I mean? Like your time is coming, which is that like if Tucker doesn't surround himself with

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: people that really have his back, then it's going to be tough for him to

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: win out the rest of the season this early on. You know,

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. That's such a beautiful metaphor about Tucker, about how like he's going to burn bright,

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's going to burn out fast. And I think that for whatever he's bringing to the season,

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_04]: we have to appreciate it while it's here because it's not long for this world.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, depending on what this twist is, you really think he's going to go far?

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely depending on what the twist is. I think with AI arena, if the if the if the,

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, and I think the comps have been not all like the kinds that he would like definitely

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_03]: win, but enough so far. And then with an America's vote twist where Tucker is a clear

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: favorite, if this is a twist that helps him, I think he give him a few more weeks.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And we start to get to that territory where it's like you just can't beat him.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And Jack certainly knows about that.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You think so, Jack?

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think as long as it's tough to get rid of someone like Tucker, as long as there's still

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: the BB AI arena. And like you said, there's this twist, obviously Tucker seems like he's

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: a favorite right now. Even for me, like he's one of my favorites in the house just to watch

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_02]: as a viewer. You know, like if I step aside from like, Oh, this is what it would be like

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_02]: being in the house. Like it's just fun to watch. So it could help him. And I think like

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: having right now, there's three opportunities for safety every week, you know, you can win

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_02]: the HOH and if he messes up at that, he can win the veto. And if that still doesn't

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_02]: work, then you can win the AI arena. And if that doesn't work, then he can try to

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_02]: gather votes. So, you know, I mean, there's there's a lot of opportunities here, whereas

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, in other seasons, you don't get that additional opportunity for safety.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that helps someone like Tucker.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_04]: There's some talk about, OK, well, maybe we can get Tucker to not use the veto again

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_04]: this week. Maybe he did it last week. Maybe he'll do it again and then we'll get him

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_04]: out when he stays on the block on Thursday. Angela has to be the voice of reason.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, Angela is the voice of reason in the room. You've got to reevaluate what's going on.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That's absolutely crazy. I'm not going to let you make a mistake.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the the issue with like with that with like wanting to keep him on the block is that like

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_02]: for Tucker to go through with the idea, the idea has to be Tucker's.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And so you have to make it seem like it's his idea somehow. And only then will he will he be down?

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, if other people are pushing this a lot, then I feel like Tucker is the type of guy

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: who is just going to go against the grain no matter what.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You want me to you do not use the power of, you know, this week I'm using it.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And honestly, like it did kind of feel like

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela might have been the reason that he actually went ahead and used like he

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_03]: very much seemed like he was down. And she was the one being like Tucker. No, please.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Because like, man, I think a lot of people were a little confused about it because he

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: initially was telling Angela like, Oh, I would never do it. I'm just playing.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But then he went back to her and he was like, but really what if I did?

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I kind of want to. And she's like, no, Tucker. And then he went and talked to

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Rubina again. And he was like, Rubina, I kind of think I might.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I need to talk to Angela before I do it though. He went back to Angela and she was like, Tucker,

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_03]: stop. No. And he's like, fine, I'll use it on myself.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And so okay. Yeah. I think Tucker is so funny with that too. Like the fact that

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: he's considering it again, like I, it seems like he just keeps wanting,

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_02]: he wants to just touch the stove over and over again. And like the stove has been off,

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_02]: but eventually it's going to be on and then you're just cooked. You know what I mean?

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Then what are you going to do? He's a chef, Jack. He knows when the stove is on.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't challenge him on his chef knowledge, Jack. This is, you're starting a feud right now.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like this stove, as a chef, I know this is off. But one of the times don't

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: go to sneak over there and turn it on when he's not looking, you know, and that's when it gets

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_04]: dicey. Okay. He does use the veto. I can't believe we're going through the charade

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: of the Angela Deepfake nominating the veto holder. Well, who's this for, Jack?

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe, I think like obviously they have to, they said that was going to be the twist.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_02]: They have to uphold that regardless of whether you choose to share your power or not. Right?

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But they all know. I think the funniest thing to me is like when the nominees were first,

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, told this like hologram and Angela's like, no, I didn't say that. And everyone's like,

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: we know, we know you didn't nominate these people. Everyone knows this is a power.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is the twist, but she's like, I wouldn't put that person up and she's just

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_04]: freaking out. I just thought it was so funny. Yeah. All right. Rubina ends up on the block,

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_04]: one of the three nominees and we should let's bring in the spoilers so we could talk a little bit

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_04]: about what is expected to happen on Thursday. Anything else about the episode proper before

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_04]: we switch over to the spoiler section. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, you, Taryn, you missed the best part

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_04]: of he said when that the setup to that, which was yeah, I got to give it to me. So

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_04]: you can give it to me anytime. Boom. Look, I think Rubina, I think that's great.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I shipped to Bina. I also feel weird seeing any of it. I feel like I'm intruding

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: anyone about or all showmances

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: about to be specifically, I mean, but here's my thing, right? Like this is the first season

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching live feeds. And so other showmances I'm seeing the episode and it's like not that

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_02]: crazy. And like now this season I'm seeing clips and like obviously the Matt and MJ showman was

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_02]: over before anything even started. And then there's been like the Pentagon, not a love triangle,

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_02]: love Pentagon going on in the house. Not a love Pentagon. Yeah. That's the real Pentagon

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that I hear about. And then we see this, I just felt, I was like, this is,

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_02]: this is just too much. Like I should not be here. This is like a private moment.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_03]: If this felt like too much, just imagine what it was like watching America and Corey last year.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's, and that's exactly the response I got from some people. I was like, oh,

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: this seems like a lot. And they're like, you don't know what a lot is. And I'm like, oh.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Until you have to listen to the sound of slurping and lip smacking in the middle of game talk.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, well, okay. I had to go through this though. I had to in person

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_02]: listen to them do all of that. One of the nights I was in the scary room sleeping there,

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: which neither of them slept in, you know, during our season. And for some reason,

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_02]: that was their little vacation. They left the scramble room, went to the scary room,

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and I could just hear them whispering and like all this. And I was like,

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02]: now what the hell is going on here? And I was just waiting. I was like,

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope they start talking about game. They did. They were, you know, it was like

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: the whole time Corey spitting America spitting game and Corey's talking about

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what was all the both spitting. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I did have to go through that as well.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. All right. What was worse? That or going to the scary verse

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_02]: or wait, what do you mean? Go to the scary verse? You can go to the scary verse.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the nether region. Sorry. I apologize. How could you Rob?

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: All eight. All I can say about the nether region is that it was scary. Okay.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone that came back from the nether region, that's all we can say.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: All right. With that in mind, now let's go to the nether region that is the spoiler section.

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're leaving us now, we'll be back tomorrow night after the eviction, but let's talk spoilers.

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[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Put the buzzer on top of the refrigerator. Okay. All right. I am curious to know,

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_04]: we have a eviction night. We have a lot of scenarios of people that could come off the block

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: based off of the AI arena with Cedric. Now he's safe no matter what, right? Right?

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Rob, don't volunteer for the block. That's what everybody knows.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we've been talking about how the, the flip alert, the flip alert has been,

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_03]: has been put away in the attic since last year. We haven't had to pull it out this season yet,

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_03]: but it's coming out of retirement because it's getting there. The meter is approaching

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_03]: the halfway mark and there's a chance, Rob, there's a chance that this vote flips on Cedric in certain

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_04]: circumstances. Okay. Why? What happened that Corey said that they, the, the flip meter is not plugged

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_04]: in. Nothing is happening. It's plugged in now. I mean, the, the, the basic reality of it

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_03]: is that the votes were always there. They just nobody seems to be doing anything about it.

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Primarily what happened is that, that there's just been more talking that's been happening.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And I can't even necessarily credit T-Cor and chemo for this because it was literally all

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_03]: conversation brought to them in the bedroom, like person after person. They were like, wow,

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_03]: it's so weird. People just keep coming up and talking to us. Yes. But throughout those

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_03]: conversations, it was made clear to them that they have the votes to take out Cedric over Rubina.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_03]: If MJ wins the AI arena competition. Okay. And it's also because in part it's also been

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_03]: discovered apparently Quinn has assumed that he had a vote. Apparently he does not have a

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: vote. That is new information. And so that changes things as well. All right. So in the

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_04]: order of operations, if MJ does not win the AI arena, MJ is going to go home. Yes. Okay. But if MJ does

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: young Cedric, Jack, you knew about this? Yeah. I've been, I've been hearing about this as well.

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It, it doesn't seem like anything is solidified yet unless there's something really recently

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_02]: that happened. But I think a lot of it is also happening from this like chemo, Tucker,

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_02]: not duo, but like, you know, chemo keeps sharing information with Tucker, even though

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: T-Corps and chemo are sort of in the middle, you know, and that's starting a lot of these

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_02]: conversations about flipping on the Pentagon or, you know, they're figuring out that they're at

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_04]: the bottom of the collective. All right. Can I get the votes of who are the votes to take out Cedric?

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So the votes that they would just straight up probably have are chemo, T-Corps, Tucker,

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ comes off the block would also be a vote for Cedric. Angela. Angela is not voting.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But theoretically, if Quinn does vote, she would have broken the tie. That was what they thought

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_03]: would happen, but now apparently Quinn doesn't vote. So you need five and Leo would be the fifth.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Those are the votes they should be able to have regardless. But in addition to that,

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_03]: they have a chance to convince Joseph anyway. Joseph thinks it's too early,

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: would prefer not to, but they think that if they show him that they have the votes

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: anyway, he might jump on board. But Rob, it's all hinges on T-Corps agreeing to do this. She

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_03]: currently doesn't seem to want to. So it's a bit of a, so they had a conversation with Joseph.

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph and Quinn kind of orchestrated this thing where they're trying to,

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_03]: there's a whole thing with Quinn and Tucker and pretending to work together again.

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But the main plan is for Quinn and Joseph to sort of tag team,

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_03]: T-Corps and Kimo to get them to be like, Hey, Quinn just recently is opening Joseph's eyes

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_03]: about the true power structure in the collective. And oh, Joseph is really onto this now. And then

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph goes and talks to them and he's like, Hey guys, I really feel the same way that you

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: do. Like I really think we get a flip this on its head. And they're like, Oh, this is music

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_03]: to our ears. We really want to do this. And then Kimo is like, we should do it now.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_03]: We should just take out Cedric and Tucker and Joseph was like, Whoa, whoa, that's a little soon.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And T-Corps was also like, that also seems soon to me. So between Kimo and T-Corps,

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_03]: they had a discussion and Kimo was pretty heavily pushing. We should do this. We should take out

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Cedric and keep Rubina. And T-Corps was still kind of like, but what if it's too soon?

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_03]: If we do that now, we'll have a bunch of people coming after us next week.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_03]: If they win HOH and so she's very much not convinced they did not finish that conversation.

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So if T-Corps ends up agreeing with Kimo, they can do it. If she doesn't agree, I don't think

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_03]: they will. And so it is still very much up in the air at this time. But what did Cedric do?

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not about Cedric. They don't. It's really it's just about keeping Rubina.

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_03]: The reality is that like what Cedric did is be in the Pentagon that that Quinn ratted out.

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And so and volunteer for the block. That's the bigger thing.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. Jack, I might have to root for MJ to go home tomorrow night.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, I kind of agree with that as well. Main reason being like,

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like MJ is having a hard time finding her footing in the game and, you know, like getting

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_02]: in into alliances. That's what I think. Like if it's going to be that difficult and people are

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_02]: like really that closed off to actually working with her in like a legitimate way, it's going to

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: make it tough for her. And so that's why I'm sort of I'm sort of leaning towards that as well.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Then again, if she finds herself off the block, I think that's that's where the excitement happens.

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Right? Like are they actually going to flip it on Cedric? I don't think it's going to

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_02]: actually end up happening. I think T-Corps is kind of adamant against it because it might be too

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_02]: early to make that move against the collective and now they'll just know. Whereas if they

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_02]: just stay, if they keep pretending, you know what I mean? And they say like,

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: ah, like we won't have the votes or whatever it is. Then maybe that buys them some leeway to continue

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_02]: to play the middle. But it is still a tricky situation. Right? Like if they vote out Rubina

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: now, you pissed other people off. So they might be in a lose, lose. Like you got to choose

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: your enemies now suddenly. And so I think that's kind of fun too. But I mean, we'll see.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: The clock is definitely ticking on the move because there's not a lot of g... Especially in this

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_03]: house, there's not a lot of game talk that happens on Thursdays. And the later the day goes tonight,

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_03]: the harder it will be for them to confirm and lock in that they have MJ and Lia's votes

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_03]: and the way that they would want to. They also want to make sure that Joseph and Quinn are

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_03]: in the know about this move because they don't want to lose them to the other side by

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_03]: blindsiding them. So there's the time is running out for sure. Okay.

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, we'll see. But if this is hinging on T-core jumping on board to like a... I feel like

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's going to happen. Yeah. I mean, that's definitely the thing.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. So all right, we'll see for tomorrow night. Let me just ask in terms of like

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_04]: the next HOH, is there anybody that seems particularly in trouble going into next week?

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker. Tucker, Quinn. Those are the primary trouble coming from for Quinn besides Tucker and

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela. Okay. But Tucker could win an HOH. He's been basically like everyone's going to target

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker except for Tucker and maybe Kimo and Angela and Rubina. And then like basically everyone except

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_03]: for Tucker side. Tucker side will mostly be going after Quinn except for like there's a small third

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_03]: party which is like T-core, Kimo and maybe Rubina where they are going to go after the Pentagon

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_03]: potentially or if they want to play it safe for Leah and MJ. So theoretically like the...

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's still Tucker is in the most danger. And then by proxy because he then might win the

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_03]: veto or AI arena competition that might fall back onto Rubina or Leah or McKenzie. Although

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_03]: theoretically one of them would be gone by then already. So I guess a lot of people potentially...

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what makes it fun too, like going into next week. Even like Tucker is talking about like

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_02]: who would he target and he wants like a Quinn up there and then like members of the Pentagon.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Right? And so now suddenly we might see a week where like MJ is not just on the block or

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not like an MJ, Leah and like you know what I mean? Like where it's what we might expect from

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: a non-crazy week. So I think that's what's fun. I think like everyone is in some danger whether

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_02]: they realize it or not other than like maybe a few people. Joseph is someone I think that like

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_02]: is not in much danger going into next week. I don't think if either side wins they're

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_02]: really talking about him in proximity to anyone. So that's where we're seeing like him

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_02]: sort of playing the middle and like focusing on these individual alliances and relationships

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_04]: like payoff. Okay. So tomorrow night we could get the wall comp? What do we think?

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what they're all expecting in the house because it's been a long construction period.

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Although Cedric disagrees because he thinks that they can just wheel the wall in.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It wouldn't take long. So is that how they do it, Jack? They just wheel it in?

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I wish that's how they did it. I remember when it was a wall comp, the backyard was closed for a

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: while. So could it be the wall comp? It could be you know like during our season,

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: it was a couple of weeks after you know this week that's happening.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's around that same amount. Like if they're going to do the wall comp and it's going to be

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_02]: with a good amount of people, they never do it with six people on the wall. So I mean we'll see.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. If not this week then probably next week. Yeah. Okay. All right. Tara, anything else from

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_03]: today? Not too much. I mean there's been a lot of talk, a lot of strategizing campaigning,

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_03]: but it's primarily like I guess the big thing is that part of this flip came from

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_03]: this continued desire to reunite Quinn and Tucker from chemo and T-Corps because

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_03]: they're frustrated that they can't work with both people because they recognize that there's a

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_03]: larger threat. Like the Pentagon, they're the white walkers and Quinn and Tucker are like

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Cersei and like the stars. Okay. All right. The Pentagon is the white walkers. Yeah. And Quinn

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and Tucker, they have to work together to save the realm. They have to put aside their petty

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_03]: differences so that they can face the larger threat. That's how T-Corps and chemo feel.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And so both Quinn and Tucker right now are kind of in a state where they're like,

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_03]: okay, sure. Maybe I'll definitely work with you. But they both fully intend to stab each other in

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_02]: the back of the second, the chance. Okay. All right. And honestly, I'm afraid T-Corps and chemo are

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of right. You know what I mean? The Pentagon seems really locked in unlike some other alliances.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And so they might be right in that it would be good for them for that to happen. But who knows?

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. Let's take some questions from the chat. I've got a few questions specifically for Jag.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_04]: But first, Oliver says, can we talk about the fit versus lazy segment? Yeah. What the hell was

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_04]: this where Leah is like the Zingbot all of a sudden? We have Boston Jim Harry going after

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Sean White's hipster twin. We have PTA Zilla just blowing up every other day.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I was very confused by this, Rob, because it felt like they were introducing us to Leah the character.

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_03]: She's Britney Haines all of a sudden now? Right. Which was just a strange spot because I'm not

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_03]: sure. Usually this would happen because Leah becomes relevant later in the week.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And they want to make sure you know who Leah is aside from the segment where she

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_03]: talked about her crushes. And so we get this and then even during the veto complex,

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_03]: she has the stinger line at the end of like, I don't want Tucker to win. I don't want Tucker to win.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I do. And so it makes me wonder if they're doing this to build up Leah as a potential

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: swing vote for the eviction tomorrow night or if they just feel like they want to invest in

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah right now because they feel like she has legs as a long-term character.

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. All right, let's see where it goes. Megan wants to know,

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Jack, who's edit from your season surprised you the most? Was there anybody?

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, have you gone back? Have you watched all the shows?

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I have. Yeah. I think edit wise, a lot of people's. A lot of, I think like everyone's is

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of like a fraction of how they actually played and you can sort of like see what

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_02]: the thinking was behind it. Like who they, who maybe they thought

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_02]: was doing the best or is doing like whatever it is. I think like obviously there's like the

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_02]: cam edit, you know, like in the house, like people really wanted cam out and like weren't

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_02]: jiving with him that much in the edit. Like on the episodes, he seems like this really fun

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_02]: guy. He goes into the DR and says these crazy lines and he's like, why are people coming

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: after me? Like what's happening when it's like, well you know damn well why people are coming

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_02]: after you. But I think we just see that a lot with the season because you can't show everything. So

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the one that probably jumps out is cams. Yeah. How did you feel about your edit?

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like my edit was, I think it was fine. I think it's like a fraction of what I was

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: doing. Right? Like, and so I think it was okay. I think like they at the beginning, here's what it is

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: at the very beginning, they're investing a lot in their own twists, which is like we have a 17th

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: house guest and it happens to be this legend from survivor and her son is in there and like

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: it's insane right? And like, oh shit, there's also this other person that knows her already.

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And so like, we see a lot of episodes early on heavily focused on Sarri, Izzy, Jared,

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: like that and everything that's happening. You know, like everything that happens every week

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: ends up being edited around that. And they don't know the future. Like it looks like, okay,

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_04]: well it looks like Jag's going home. Okay. That they have no idea at that point in

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: time that you're going to be the winner of the season. Yeah, exactly. And I think that

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: you also have like archetypes or what people expect from people's edits. Like, oh, this person

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: looks this way. So we're going to kind of give them that edit. You know what I mean? Like,

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: oh, strong athletic tall dude gets this edit. The person that looks nerdy or whatever,

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: quote unquote, like gets this edit like the smart guy edit and this person gets this

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: edit. And like the fact of it is, like I don't fit in any archetype because you fried them.

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Looks like me before on any season, right? And so I think eventually it was just

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: near the second half. Obviously you see a little bit more about like the game conversations and

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: stuff being shown. But yeah. Okay.

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_04]: LM wants to know who from this cast do you think would have done well on your season?

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Is there anybody that would have fit in well in the BB 25 house?

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: From this cast, I'm trying to think. I feel like

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's probably a good number of people that would do fine.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Who would Tucker have hated on your cast the most? Who would he have targeted right away?

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Who would have been his Lisa? Oh, Tucker's Lisa.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think like maybe it's like other people with loud personalities.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say it might be someone like Mama Fee who's like so fun and loud, but like maybe

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: it's there's just almost like so much space for someone with a loud personality.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: She was another cook.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. You know what I mean? Mama Fee loves to cook as well. So maybe that's where

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: you see that stem from. I don't know though. It's hard to say. I'm trying to think like

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: who from our season would or who from this season would do well?

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Shit. I don't know. Probably like if you think about it, like even like some of these people that

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Matt leaves first, then you see Lisa like that order probably won't happen our season.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I mean, the whole alliance structure is different. So someone like Matt who's the

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: first one gone here probably makes it a lot further our season because the first week for us

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: was if you lose a comp, you're on the block. Right? And that's how the first four people were

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: on the block rally wins H2H sticks two of them off. Right? Like so, you know, you say like

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: if someone like Matt who's first to leave this, this season wins a comp, he's probably good.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And if you give him like a couple weeks in the house, he's probably in a better alliance. And

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: the same can be said of anyone that's been leaving this season because of all the chaos.

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Jack, Tony has a question for you. Would you return for a season? All winners?

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: All winners or all winners is because the answer is yeah, I would definitely return

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: for a season in a heart beat. I had so much fun being in the big brother house.

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: All winners. I don't think it's likely to happen because there's not been that

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: enough season. It's not like survivor where you have so many

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: events. This is like you're going to have to get a really high, like yes rate from the

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: winners and some of them just might not be down. But like they'll probably have all stars or

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: returners season. You know, could you do all winners in it be three weeks?

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Could you do that instead of celebrity big brother? Oh yeah. I think that'd be fun.

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I think like I think that might be one of the main things for a lot of people that I hear

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: outside, you know, that played big brother. They're like, I might do it, but it just takes so long.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Who'd come back? Let's let's just make the list. Okay. All right. Jack is coming back.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. Taylor play all winners. Come on.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I would play. Yeah. Okay. Xavier.

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Come on. He did reindeer games. Come back for that. Actually, Cody, Cody, Cody, come back.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You saw him the other night. Oh yeah. Cody doesn't come back for it. Come

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: frack for three weeks for all winners. Jackson. I don't know if we need Jackson.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't come back. I don't think Cody would come back. I think he was so traumatized after

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_04]: reindeer games. It's only a couple of days. Hey, you talk to him. I'll talk to him.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: What KC? KC would come back. Come back. Let's see. Then oh, Josh, Josh will come back.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: People had reindeer games. Nicole, Nicole, she's come back. It's short.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. You're seeing the reindeer games. Yeah. I feel, I'm sort of like we could do it now.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see. Then Steve, I don't think Steve's coming to come back. He's not coming back.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think David is coming back. He can't go. He's not going to come back for three weeks with

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Cody. We already got Cody back. I'll put him in. I'll put him in. He's coming back for

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_04]: all winners. Erica's coming back. Nicole's there. It's like, they'll be fine.

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Reindeer games is what we're cooking up right now. Would they invite Andy back? Yeah.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. That's the thing. Come back. I don't know if Ian would. I think Ian might be done.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. He might be done. Rachel. She's playing. She's coming back. Rachel's so in. She's coming

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_04]: back. Hayden, you do it. I think you do it. Come on. Okay. I think we got it, Jack. I think

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_02]: we would play 12 people three weeks. Look, I'm there. I'm down. So I don't need the convincing.

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I think everyone else does perhaps, but I mean, we'll see. It's just tough to get that many

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_02]: people in the house, but I'd be very down for all. What is the chat thing? June, she'd do it.

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think we can get 12 people, Jack.

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You think 12 is the number? I think you get 12, right?

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd be down. 12 people three weeks, Terran. That'll work. That'll play.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't pretend to know why they haven't done it yet because I do think they could,

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: but I think part of the problem is probably that like the cost, so like the cost to do

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: all stars, they had to pay those guys a decent amount. I think you'd have to pay them a decent

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: amount, a similar decent amount to get them to just do three weeks.

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. It's not that many episodes, but what did they pay the celebrities?

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, celebrities probably got like a hundred grand just to show up.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. But then also you've now used it, right? Like, like the concept has now been used

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and you can't ever do it, you know, properly. But you're never going to do it properly.

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. But like why use it now if they don't need days?

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: If they can come up with a reindeer games instead, then you know, why burn that one?

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, listen, I'm with you. I'd like to see it. Yeah. Okay.

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, Jack, anything else you want to say?

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm hanging out. This is a lot of fun. Yeah. Well, glad you were here, Jack.

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_04]: This was fun and we got a big show coming up on Thursday night. We'll get to find out

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_04]: what's going on with the AI instigator and get to see who goes home.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_04]: On Thursday night though, right before big brother, I'll be hosting a new Patreon welcome event.

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be at 6pm Eastern, 3pm Pacific. I will be talking about maybe some of the

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: lesser known patron perks taking some Q&A from our patrons. A lot of new patrons came on here

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: this summer. So we just want to do a little get together on zoom to talk to all of our new patrons.

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Patrons, you've got the link or if you want to jump in, robits.com.com

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[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_04]: show all the live feed updates and then whoever comes out of the house, Taren and I will

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: talk to them coming up on Friday earlier tonight. Survivor match game. This was so much fun.

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_04]: This was a really great podcast. We had Kane, Jake, Jay Maya, Lindsey Omer and Jamie Lynn

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_04]: played match game. They were on the celebrity panel trying to match up their answers with

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Mike Bloom and Shannon. It was a all timer. You have to watch it survivor match game. Oh,

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: look at this. Okay. I was they told me that this was coming and I wasn't prepared the

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: 2025 Zaddy calendar is going to launch tomorrow. I am going to open the envelope that Bryce

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_04]: has sent me and react to all the Zaddies of 2025 once again for what the fifth year,

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: sixth year in a row. I can't believe it. We're doing that live 2pm Eastern with the

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: purple pants, bad ass Bryce Isaiah. Also, Jack, have you heard about this survivor 50 wishlist?

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I have Rob is website.com slash vote 50 over 50,000 votes have been I'm sorry 15,000

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: read the prompt. They're wrong 15,000 votes have been cast for our survivor or ultimate

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_04]: survivor 50 poll. Go to Rob is website.com slash vote 50 to get your voice heard before

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: the ballots close on Friday at noon. Okay. So right when Puyah Friday kicks off, that's when

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: we're closing the vote. All right, then Tara, what a big interview. Yes, we talked to Abigail

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Thorn who is a big creator on YouTube. Philosophy Tube is her channel. She's also cast on House of

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: the Dragon. Yeah, she was, she's a big role on the finale and potentially more to come.

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. Yeah. So very exciting. We got a chance to talk to her about what it's like to be on a

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: massive HBO production. And it was, it was very fun. So check it out over on We Know Scripted TV.

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Her and one of the Lannisters are getting a little spoiler alert. Yeah,

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_04]: we're in the spoiler section. Okay. And then of course for everything else,

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: RHAP become a patron. We got so much going on Friday. Tara and I will be back with our

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_04]: BBQ and a the slop every single week. We're going to be doing some live shows for the fall.

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, the patrons get first access to those tickets and so many more benefits at

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Rob's website.com slash patron again. Jack, thank you again for making time to talk

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: with us. People got to hear your takes two nights in a row. So that was very fun.

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Jack, where could people keep up with what you're doing?

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. First of all, thank you so much for having me. This was so fun.

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I mean, like just on, on socials, I mean, I'm just the Jack Bain's on Instagram, TikTok,

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: everything is, it's always the same, but yeah.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Cool. Well, really appreciate you being here, Jack. Hope we could talk again soon.

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Tara and what's next for you?

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: On me on Twitch, hanging out over there again. Check out the scripted TV interviews coverage

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_03]: that's happening over there and we'll have a good time.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_04]: All right. Thank you again so much for joining us. We love to hear your thoughts in the comments.

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