BB26 Tuesday Live Feed Update with Kevin Jacobs: The BB26 House is Reeling

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[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Every morning Taran Armstrong, talk Big Brother, looking at the stuff from yesterday

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_00]: All the drama, all the strategy, and silliness from P.O. to H.O.H.

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Every single season, you know he is the reason.

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what's happening.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Rob said that he could do it.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Tomorrow he will do it again.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello everyone and good morning.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to our live feed update for August 20th.

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host Aaron Armstrong and I'm here today to update you on everything that

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: happened yesterday on the Big Brother 26 live feeds.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It was day 35 in the house and it was a veto ceremony.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a move that was made.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: There was fallout.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The house was reeling with me to talk about it all.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's Kevin Jacobs.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: How you doing, Kevin?

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I love chaos, terror and I'm ready to break it all down.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready to dance in the flames and we're going to figure out what went down in there.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We truly are.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well let's get straight into it because there's a lot to talk about from yesterday.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Things really have I mean you don't really often get days like this where there was very little actual downtime throughout the day in terms of just like conversations happening that were full of strategy and drama and things like that.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing that was too over the top, but just consistent levels of just like things going on that are worth talking about.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It was very meaty.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It was very thick.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a you know like there wasn't one cut of the steak that like I really wanted to get after but the whole thing was really nice and juicy and there was a lot of nuance and actually there were times where I couldn't tell always who was like who was telling the truth, who was dancing around.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It was it was who's diluting themselves.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I could tell a lot of that.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It was fun.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, of course you all know Tucker is the H.O.H.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He nominated Brooklyn Cam and win for eviction.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He then won the veto and he had this plan to use the veto on Quinn to nominate Chelsea.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: T Corp and chemo did not want that to happen.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They did not want Chelsea on the block.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't want to have to be in a situation like last week where they might have to flip the votes because they want to work with Chelsea.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, there was some hesitation from Tucker to use the veto on Quinn because it's Quinn and he failed the test.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He told Brooklyn about the fact that he was a pawn.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But by the night of day 34, Tucker had decided he did still want to do this, to go through with it.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And without too much fanfare before the veto ceremony, he did in fact go ahead and do it.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker used the veto on Quinn and nominated Chelsea in his place.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's really where we start the day because that's where all of the fallout begins.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you said the other day, you're like, I've stopped trying to make you stop trying to make sense of the Tucker moves.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, actually, he is starting to make sense to me.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I am starting to kind of understand what's what's going on here.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like I feel like I'm watching Alexander the Great just relentlessly going after country after country, having them all sort of just every he wants everybody to be his number one is ultimately the goal.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: If if you're not Tucker's number one, you're not it.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the fact that he had this rivalry with Quinn, he's almost like trying to loop him over.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to get the Quinn, the Quinn Dorseman.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Then and I'm I'm tickled.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, when five people in the house have a crush on you, it starts to become real obvious who doesn't have a crush on you.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You should make it everyone.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: If five people in the house have a crush on you, you should get everyone to have a crush on you.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, listen, at this point, I might as well collect the whole bunch.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So you got to get the infinity gauntlet.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the thing is also Taryn, I well, personally, I could I have the mental fortitude to not fall for this.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't blame people when you're in there and it's so intense and this person's winning power and they're naturally above you and they're sort of they're just this large looming figure.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably hard not to fall in love.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I mean, in a game where you are fearing for your safety at every moment and there's a player who's been safe the whole time pretty much.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They just yeah, they operate on a different level and you see them on it.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, yeah, they're just they're different than they get to be safe all the time.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's a thing with like even if his strategy isn't all the way there, you know what?

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of getting there because you have the room for error because he keeps winning.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like he can just do anything and people will be like, oh, my gosh, Tucker, our hero.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That's so like I mean, when we talk about him, him and MJ, like you could it's just it's it's just bringing people in.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: The more he wins, it's almost like you can't even backdoor him now.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't even put up there won't be the votes.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Well, yeah, at the very least with the AI, it's not going to happen.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: All right. Well, big drama.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: The feeds come back from Tucker.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Now he had planned to make this big speech and tell everyone sit down because it's going to be uncomfortable.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was going to rat everything out and expose everything when he used the veto.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He did do that, we assume, because there was quite a lot of fallout.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The feeds came back and we were waiting like what kind of drama is going to happen?

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What kind of house meeting are we going to come back to?

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: What kind of yelling? What kind of like scrambling?

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And what we came back to was about 30 minutes of Leah preaching to half the house about how honesty is important

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and why it's important to tell the truth and why she doesn't lie.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Seems to be working out.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Hasn't been nominated.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, honestly, I have no idea where this came from.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea was very annoyed about it later.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how in the world did Leah make that about her?

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, it was like it was there were, I swear to you, like eight people around her and she was just talking for like 30 minutes

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: after Chelsea got blindsided.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So there seems to be this effort by Chelsea and Brooklyn, which maybe happened at the veto ceremony,

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_02]: which is to say that Joseph started the collective.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. And then people flipped on it.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And Leah seems to be saying that her reason for the flip is that she fundamentally disagrees with sending someone Rubina home

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: because it would harm Tucker, which is fine.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like totally cool opinion to have. But then it just it just went on for like like it was it was like Apocalypse Now.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The director's redox, especially and I think like the reason I call it out is because of the timing of it where like everyone was expecting

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: to watch all of this fallout and instead we were just watching Leah like filibuster for so long.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But the fallout did come and and some of it very quickly was from MJ as well.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ was talking to Rubina MJ has her own sort of reaction to all of this news because she's finally learned that Chelsea and Brooklyn are not her friends.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And man, they tricked her with all the religious stuff.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But but they have been talking about her.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: She's found out that like, oh, man, they were going to vote me out if I hadn't won the A.I. arena.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They were trying to trick me into not using America's veto.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank God I did because I wouldn't be here if I hadn't.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, she's like, it's a good thing I prayed last night because otherwise this would not have happened and I would not have found out.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And she says, Rubina, I just feel like Tucker and I were just in the same boat.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We've bonded by both being in the same position.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We both have to be winning these competitions.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's coming for us. It's just the two of us.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Rubina and I would have gotten voted out over you is what I found out.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Rubina's like, I'm not sure. I was told that I might have been voted out over you.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, nope, nope.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: They would have voted me because I'm close to Tucker that they I'm too connected to Tucker because we've bonded over our things there.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So it would have been me. Would have been me is what I've learned.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It would have been me over you, Rubina.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the ongoing theme of the day. Who can be closer to Tucker?

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Like who can and people are actively competing with each other.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And but what I do what I do enjoy here is that I think this is a wake up call for MJ, as it should be for Leo, which is it is a little bit is the entire house is height fighting about who's in what alliance and everything is being exposed.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And MJ and Leah and they're just sort of on the outside kind of throwing their hands.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I like it. Can somebody can somebody invite me?

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And then and then Tucker's they to each Tucker keeps her safe all week.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very easy to be like, oh, one, I kind of love you.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And two, I some someone wants to include me. Great.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Pick me up as a piece. Yeah, because I'm now like him than you.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now the Chelsea and Brooklyn and by extension, Cam, who is going to continue to do very little throughout the day, they are actually going to continue to deny the Pentagon throughout all of this.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And Quinn has to apologize.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's it was made very obvious that Quinn exposed some things, but they're trying to deny the fact that the Pentagon actually exists.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: When does have a conversation with Chelsea about why he exposed what he did and apologizes.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He said, like, I felt like I was on the bottom being pulled in, in the way that I was, you know, the same conversations that he's had before, but now just telling Chelsea about it.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He also talks about how Brooklyn exposed their final two and how that made him really upset because he felt like it was like a really emotional thing at the time.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And Chelsea denies having any final twos, including Brooklyn, and that this is all just a big misunderstanding that she's she's not a part of any of what he's using.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty interested in how both of them kind of play the day because Quinn's in this position where he actually didn't know that the veto was being used on him.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And it is a little bit suspicious and someone like like Brooklyn and Chelsea are like, what do you what are you doing?

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're obviously staking us on some level, and it's not believable that someone would just use the veto on him out of nowhere.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the other side.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea is so chill.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea is having these conversations.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she's exploring.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: She's asking questions.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I'm so impressed with her level of just let's talk about it.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's explore.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about what next week could look like.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very, very interesting to me.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And what Taryn, like what is Quinn trying to do here?

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: What does he do?

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: What's his what's his play?

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Because he just he just had it.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He just had the biggest curveball throw in it.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what is his purpose in this conversation?

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that right now he's he's just like, I'm deflated.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I've I'm just telling the truth now.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like trying to what I think what he is doing is trying to wipe the slate clean as much as possible.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Admit to everything that has happened so that he can eventually start rebuilding.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, right now, he's just like, yeah, OK, this is this is what it was.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I did this. OK. And like, oh, over here.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yep. I did that, Tucker. Yep. Sorry.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That's I also did that.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And oh, yeah, you're oh, yep. Yep.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right. I did that, too.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: But the truth is unbelievable.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Does it make any sense?

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I mean, I think Quinn right now is still very much like ads on the outside of a lot of things.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of people are mad at him and even the people that are like like Tucker just used the veto on him still wants going on.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It still doesn't trust Quinn in any meaningful way.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And in addition to that, again, the people he's working with, one of the quick reactions for from the veto was that Rubina and chemo were going to start talking.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, you're saying it wasn't real.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Was Quinn lying to us about the Pentagon?

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, I don't know. I think he was telling the truth because he told me a long time ago.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But then I don't I don't remember exactly when it was.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And Rubina is like, right. But he could have told you that just to make it up because he was worried about Tucker after the Tucker thing.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, that's I guess that's right.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe I feel like it might have been before the Tucker thing.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not sure. I feel like maybe it was the reason why we got the underdogs.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you get the underdogs together?

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And man, does this conversation last a long time?

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: They are trying to figure out was Quinn lying about the Pentagon.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it possible that the Pentagon was not real and that Quinn just made it up to distract Tucker?

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It seems plausible.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It could be everybody else denying it.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn saying this thing we know Quinn isn't a reliable narrator.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the position Quinn is in.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Like even the most obvious truths are being doubted.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone could pick him up as a piece now.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's very hard once you have five weeks of being caught in your own lies.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I actually don't know what what the best thing is for him.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, it is.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you can't.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me of Cam from last season a little bit like the player, not the person where it was like, well, certainly somebody could pick him up right.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got nobody.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But the problem with him is that he was just so openly self-interested that like you just knew he would never like actually stick to anything you wanted him to do.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He's too much of a wild card and self-interested at the same time.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So you never could understand what he thought was best for him because he just go off and do a random thing that didn't make sense.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So Quinn, I think is not the same but in a similar position where like you can't really trust when to work with him unless you are like chemo and tick or the people that he actually liked and wanted to work with.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And even now that's kind of altered.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't really have like that emotional connection to lock on to.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And if he doesn't have that emotional connection, then he is wild card enough to just do anything.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: They drop the ball by not repairing things with him faster because he would I do think he is.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a perception that he might just go off and do something selfish.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, like, I still think this is a card that can be played.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He's very good at comps. He's shown that he is self-interested.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Good. You know how he's going to act.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Treat him as a self-interested player and then play him like that.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think chemo and tick or could have like just it would have been so easy to just bring him back in the first couple of places.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I completely agree.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So they are in charge, not him.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Yeah.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I Rubina and chemo also talk about Joseph.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph sort of almost a similar situation, but slightly different.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They also don't trust Joseph.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They really don't trust Rubina in particular.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Really? She they both recognize and they'll later talk to T Corp about this as well.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They recognize that Joseph is trying to get in with Tucker.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Their final two has not gone unnoticed.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not sure if it's an actual final two or if it's just Tucker humoring Joseph.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's very clear that Joseph is trying to have a lot of influence over Tucker and they don't trust that.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And just in general, they don't really trust Joseph.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't talk to him that much.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's the guy. He says it.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the guy that made the collective in the first place.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Then he flipped on it.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, like he's constantly talking about how he made these alliances.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And Rubina says, Well, I think the only reason he flipped on it is because he knew to protect himself.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he knew that the votes weren't there.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: He knew that that the wall was coming and that Tucker would win the wall.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So he just was trying to protect himself from Tucker.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why he flipped with us. Not for any other reason.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would why else would he flip on his own alliance?

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And and so there's a lot of talk about Joseph within the the Sixth Avenue here today.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just laughing because this this for me, for me, Joseph is continually up and down.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like sometimes I'm really high on him. Right. Not so much.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So he has the the social awareness to change his vote based on body language and a couple small pieces of conversation and handholding at the vote.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you change your your your who you're voting for at the eviction, you're going to have to deal with stuff like this.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: This is part of the downside. He's on the right side of the numbers.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're going to flip your vote right there, it kind of shows.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe you're not that trustworthy. I will say one thing that he has going for him.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_02]: They might be having this conversation. I think he's doing a really good job of managing his threat level at this point.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what is like extra like crying and hiding in the room or whatever is.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But even if people don't trust him, I can't see. Tell me wrong.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't see a lot of people wasting an H.O.H. on it. Maybe nominated him.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But like he's just kind of in this weird middle zone at this stage of the game where threat management is so important.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_02]: He's doing a good job just being like a Joseph.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. And that's the thing.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the problem is that he I think right now feels like he's setting himself up for an endgame.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's quite true.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think his endgame looks really bad right now.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's not going to sit beside Tucker. That's not realistic.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I write the whole thing accountable.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it like that's that final to me.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. I don't think it's likely that that it will happen.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's wild to me that he actively wants it and thinks it will work.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Tucker is going to win the game, but I think the player who can play him the best in this stage where he's winning so much will have a really good chance.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, Joseph has an awful read on what's going on right now.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know that like I don't know that he's he's he's one of the best that do dealing with this force.

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he is the best at manipulating Tucker.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that has really helped him in the last like week or so for sure.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Rubina's jealous.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe all these people, they're all competing.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So I Rubina and chemo with decor later do ask when about or I should say when I say Rubina, T Cor and chemo.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Rubina asks Quinn about the Pentagon and when it happened and when he told people and he says, oh yeah, it was definitely a real thing.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I told I told them about it. They can tell you.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And he says we had like obviously I wasn't part of naming it Pentagon.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We had like a little symbol.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It was this, but it doesn't even make any sense.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we would put our hands in the middle like we would all put our hands in the middle.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's still not a Pentagon.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't it never made any sense.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And like the way that he's explaining this is just so believable.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's part of why like having little symbols and names for your alliance, like it does make it a lot easier to rat out later on because these little details are so believable when you eventually say them.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And it also makes me wonder if you wanted to create a fake alliance and rat it out that you just all you really need to do is come up with a lot of little small details about the name and the symbol and the things you would say when you put your hands in the middle.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And but even then, like, you know, people be like what?

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's ridiculous.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's very hard to lie with stuff like that.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You like a great lie doesn't have too many details, but you know enough that if they ask for more, you have it.

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I would have all that stuff ready.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the Pentagon.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you have a sign?

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we did.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But I wouldn't lead with the sign.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Ideally, ideally you come to with those details after the people that can refute them are gone.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, then you could just say, anyway, they're out of the house.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So that's the at this point, they're like, OK, yeah, this makes sense.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: This feels very real.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn also realizes, wait, today's the 19th.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: This is my mom's birthday.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And what an awesome thing to have happen.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He's taken off the block on his mom's birthday.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What a great birthday gift to his mom.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He has already told Tucker this.

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, that's maybe the nicest thing anyone's done for me.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And he tells in the game or his life.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't tell.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he said he said ever.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's exceptionally nice.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's high stakes game.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, especially because, like, he's such a fan.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He really wants to like he was staring down the barrel of a pre jury boot was his was his thought process.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And so the fact that he is now potentially locked into jury at the very least and still has another life in this game, I think meant a lot to him.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's genuine.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: He also says there's no way I would never go after Tucker after this.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to happen.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do whatever you guys want, whatever, however you guys want to vote.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'll vote with you.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I get the sense that you want to keep Chelsea.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine with that.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I like whatever you guys want to do.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely not going after Tucker.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I am just I'm a vessel for the for you guys at this point.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Do I believe him?

[00:24:08] No.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you kind of you kind of have to.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think everybody in the house who's playing the game and by everybody, I mean, a couple people know that whether they're saying it out loud or not, this guy needs to go.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's not that I mean, that's not real for her, but it's like, yeah, Quinn's Quinn would take it.

[00:24:32] Mm hmm.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's told to Tucker like, hey, I really think Quinn's not going to target you anymore.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And Tucker's like, no, he is going.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter, though.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, while this conversation is happening inside the H.O.A.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: room outside the H.O.A.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_01]: room, Brooklyn is confronting Joseph.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And for a while we're only hearing it through the door like Rubina is listening in through the door.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Eventually we see a little bit of it.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's you know, it's a typical confrontation.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of like talking about Joseph and how he created the collective alliance in the first place.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And how can Brooklyn have like, you know, be blamed for being in a core when she wasn't even supposed to be in the alliance that he created in the first place and so on and so forth.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's, you know, it's a pretty mild confrontation, but it's the most heat Joseph Scott so far.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: This whole creating the collective thing is a fun lesson in rhetoric.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's this old study that if you give a reason for something, people will accept it.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So about they had a bunch of people line up behind a printer and they did they did a test and they made the person go up to the line and be like, hey, I just need to get out sooner.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Can I go to the front of the line?

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And people would say yes.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like this created the and the reason was they just gave a reason that didn't make any sense.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, OK, if you give a reason for your behavior, people are more likely to accept it.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Brooklyn is just locked in on this who created the collective.

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand this argument.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It is not like if you actually think about it.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, Joseph created it cool.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You were in it.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like it's it's it's oh, he created it.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You said yes, that's your fault.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't understand how putting the blame on him is he created it.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what is what is the point of leaning so hard into this line of thinking and trying to pin it on him for creating the alliance?

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: What is that?

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: She seems to have this instinct to kind of blame the people who had the power to flip the game last week.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So like when T Corp and chemo flipped to keep Rubina, she's like, well, they they clearly are the people who are in charge.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_01]: They tricked me.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They tricked me into voting the other way.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They're the ones that always had the numbers.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They told me the numbers weren't there, but the numbers were there.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They were just tricking me into not thinking they were there.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I always wanted to keep Rubina and the same thing with the collective.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the collective has been outed.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, well, I was I was at the bottom of the collective.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't even originally in it.

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the guy that created it.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's the one that's trying to act like the victim.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was in charge and he flipped on me like I'm some kind of ringleader when I'm I'm I'm the person that got brought in last.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the guy that made the whole thing.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can kind of see, I think, where she's coming from with this.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is that it doesn't ring true when the Pentagon exists, which is why she's trying to deny the existence of Pentagon.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And all of this stuff has been outed for weeks now and and trying to to to pull back that that whole line of of like reality that has existed in the house for a while is just too too tall a task.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You're so well connected that you got pulled into an alliance.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't make the alliance without you.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone got kicked out of it and they're like, OK, great.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's pull in Brooklyn.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: That's I don't know.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I hear her, but I'm not.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's I think if anything, it says that she's a good social player.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Chelsea does take a different tactic still, as you mentioned.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_01]: She's much more chill about it.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_01]: We talked, I think yesterday about like how Chelsea responds to this.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, you know, how it may be an indicator of her fate this week.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And and so far she has handled it well.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_01]: She goes to Tucker Tucker explains to her what he knows and and how he knows it.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's she's just again, she's like pretty chill about the whole thing.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Talks about like how, you know, she never really saw it that way.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't really feel like she was running the house or anything.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, she's just trying to play her own game and, you know, everything's fine.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: She understands the decision and she's not going to be mad.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She's not going to come after him and so on and so forth.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Good stuff. Yeah.

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's amazing how just doing nothing can be really good.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Or or it's not doing nothing.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not allowing the first reaction to control you.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, I got put on the block that that's that sucks.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_02]: This is real. This is really bad.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I had to go home. Let me let me just be fake and control my behavior for a little while here.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And it goes a long way. Yeah.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I.

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ is not done.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: She's her eyes have been open, Evan.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: She is she is seeing everything now, including that little group upstairs that I was just talking about.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn, Decor, Kimo, Rubina.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they call Joseph in after his conversation with with Brooklyn.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the underdogs alliance there. They've been there still a thing.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They're up there. They're talking. They're strategizing.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ realized they're all in an alliance.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: She's caught them. How observant she's kind of correct.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: She's almost there. You know, Quinn is like not really in it, but like, hey, she's like she's remembering the underdogs.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: This is more than most people in this house.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: She's remembering the underdogs line.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: She's remembering that it was a thing. Now those people are in the H.O.H. room.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They've like locked themselves in there. They're talking clearly strategy.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They've made this move. It makes a lot of sense.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: The underdogs alliance is still a thing.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: She's realized it and.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: She's going to go and warn Tucker about her.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ on August 29th is the most and August 19th is the most entertaining she's been because I mean,

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Tucker saw this happening, but exposing all these alliances, right?

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It makes people on the outside feel they're not a part of it.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And her just going into full detective mode from conversation to conversation, I think.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, very, very perceptive about that group.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think at some point she was accusing everybody in the house of throwing her for us for a loop yesterday, which is awesome.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's important to to to recognize that in MJ's mind, as she was explaining to Rubina.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's her and Tucker.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's those two Tucker is telling her like a lot of people wanted you on the block, by the way, which is true.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Decor and Kimo wanted her on the block, but he didn't do it.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And the two of them have bonded because the two survivors, the two guys, the two people who have been winning competitions being targeted.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: She was trying to get her out.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't matter.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That this is you know, this is how she sees it.

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And she doesn't even consider the idea that the Tucker is in there like she's like, I can't I can't believe they feel so comfortable.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Using your H.O.H. to have this alliance meeting with discussed.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because it's his life.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He did it.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So of course, Tucker just immediately lets them know like, hey, by the way, guys, MJ suspicious of you hanging out.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: His response is to her awesome.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he just throws out these like at one point he goes, the truth shall prevail.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, that's that's his line.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's he's doing all the things that he says he doesn't like.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: He says he says he doesn't like people playing a game where they're in there making multiple deals and they're making other people feel like they're they're they're person or whatever.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You just do it. I love I love the hypocrisy.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm here for it. Don't get me wrong.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But he is doing it.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_01]: All right. Well, T Cor is going to go and talk to Brooklyn and she's still feeling bad, still feeling bad about the whole situation.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of blew up the house.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of flipped everything around and she didn't mean for it to go this way.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_01]: This is not what she wanted. She didn't want Chelsea on the block.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: This is just not what she was. She feels bad.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I kind of caused all of this.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I should have told you. I wish I had told you ahead of time that we were going to make that move.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And Brooklyn kind of like starts crying, says like, you know, my loyalty is being used against me.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And now nobody believes what I'm saying.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Brooklyn's kind of been turned into this house prior right now.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like everyone is distancing themselves from her.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And and so she's she's like, oh, man, because I was loyal to my people, you know, that's that's being used against me.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, but you know what, T Corp. I've been thinking about how many women there are in the house and how, you know, five votes right now are women.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't it be so cool if we still had like seven women in the house next week?

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like there's a man on the block right now and there are five votes that are I was just thinking about that.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Brooklyn manipulates T Corp.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I place her like a fiddle here, like just exactly what T Corp wants to hear.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the most impressive work that Brooklyn does all day.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: She's a great villain.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: She's it's like she her her response is so different from Chelsea's and that I think I think she spent the first like hour after or more just just brooding.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the two of them are having a conversation.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I call their conversations are pretty sort of the tone changes.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, like like tell T Corp what she wants to hear.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what? Maybe there is a new group because this that that group of five like that's a very good group for Brooklyn.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And so yeah, T Corp says I do want you to stay.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I would love for you or Chelsea to win the AI arena implying that she would want to vote out Cam if she had the opportunity.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I never wanted this. I never wanted Chelsea on the block.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I tried to prevent it. I couldn't. I'm annoyed that it's happened.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And what I would love to see is me, Kimo Rubina, you, Brooklyn and Chelsea make it to the end together that five and Brooklyn says, yes, I love that.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, those are the people I told this to Kimo.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we were just meant to play the game together.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, yes, that's what I'm saying.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just it couldn't be more obvious that like Brooklyn is is just telling T Corp what she wants to hear because she's literally in the position where she has to.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But but it is it is what T Corp wants is what T Corp has wanted.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And so she's you know, Brooklyn's just like, yeah, and I can stay and I want to go after Tucker.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He thinks he's God and I'll go after Quinn, the guy who backed the bus over me.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are my two targets and five of us can make it to the end.

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this would be great. Not just T Corp.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I want that too. I want the Brooklyn revenge tour.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I want her with H.O.H. next week and put up Tucker and Quinn together.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: That's good TV. I'm here for it.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So now both T Corp and Kimo also talk to Chelsea, let her know that they want her to stay as well.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, you have to start thinking now, OK, if T Corp and Kimo want Brooklyn to stay as well as Chelsea.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And those are the two people that Tucker primarily wants out.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He actively wants to keep him.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He wants to make sure that one of Brooklyn or Chelsea leaves.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Things start to get interesting in terms of the vote again.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a lot to break down here. So the T Corp and Chelsea conversation, I think this is a sick move.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And by that, I mean good, sick, wicked, wicked good by T Corp.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She she flat out says to Chelsea, I'm giving you my vote this week and I'll work to make sure you stay.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_02]: This is there's been a lot of talk about how the season, you know, maybe there aren't any like masterminds in there or anything like that.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_02]: There is an added level of difficulty with the three knobs and the A.I. arena.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that makes things easier. I think it adds a lot more variables.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So T Corp saying, hey, I'm going to keep you like within a couple hours.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02]: The veto ceremony is a pretty.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's kind of a risky move in a couple ways because you don't know what's going to happen in the A.I. arena.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, who's going to be left? Tucker is this this extreme force.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to push it one way. But her saying that Chelsea's hers.

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if Chelsea ends up ends up staying, if she's on the block at the end of the week and she ends up staying and T Corp is the first person to say, yeah, I got you.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_02]: She's there. The other thing about it that I like here is that it's pre jury.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You can tell her you're going to keep her like you can say, yeah, I'm 100 percent keeping you.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And then she goes home and she's not on the jury.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't actually matter that much, but it's.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's creating a very complicated next couple of days, I think, because there are a lot of different scenarios here and because Tucker wants Cam to stay.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, my my biggest thing is because I completely agree that I I like that T Corp is doing this with both Brooklyn and Chelsea for what it's worth.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Brooklyn absolutely again is just like played T Corp like a fiddle in that conversation.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she cares about any of this, but how much does that matter?

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: At least in the short term when who else does Brooklyn have right now?

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. So now there are risks attached, as you said, but like my biggest issue with what T Corp and chemo had been doing the previous few days is that they were they were fighting so hard for Chelsea.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And they barely had the relationship to back it up strategically.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I like that that the T Corp is now actively talking to Chelsea and saying, I've got you.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be campaigning for you so she can actually get credit for what she's been doing with Chelsea and actually develop the relationship that she has thought was there in the first place, essentially.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The extra step you need after that, because it's not just that is.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_02]: T Corp and whoever she pulls this move off with, they need to get Quinn or Joseph involved.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they and then they need to throw Quinn or Joseph under under the rug.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I forgot that I forgot the idiom for a second under the rug, because there are already questions about both of them.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So you play on those perceptions, because if you're going to do this two weeks in a row, you just can't be at the center.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Keemo and T Corp can't be responsible for this move a second.

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You can be behind the scenes, but people can't know it.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So you take those super fans and you throw them to the wolves after this.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So let me let me just quickly run through this and we'll talk more about it throughout the day.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But there are nine votes.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You need five.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of have a hard time seeing him change his mind about Chelsea or Brooklyn.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He has talked to Cam about working together again.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He has made declarative statements about how one of the two of them needs to leave.

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's very seemingly set on this, and he's not somebody that changes his mind very easily.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So Tucker is seemingly if let's assume he's going to be very adamant, it must be one of the two of them.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_01]: With Tucker comes Angela.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's one vote with Tucker.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Now also likely comes Leah and Mackenzie that they are also votes there.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: They're both very anti Brooklyn and Chelsea right now as well.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So they would want one of them out.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: They also want to work with Tucker.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's three votes.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker also has Joseph locked in.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph has talked to Cam.

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He talks to Cam throughout the day yesterday and talks about kind of working together.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He's starting to work on.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: He really feels like he wants one of Chelsea or Brooklyn gone on top of wanting to do what Tucker wants him to do.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That's four votes, four votes probably locked in for what Tucker wants.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's not five votes locked in, which means there are five votes up for grabs, as Jeff Probst might say.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And those five votes, of course, T Corp and chemo themselves.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: They can easily get whoever comes off of the block from the arena, Brooklyn or Chelsea.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They would vote for each other over Cam.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's three.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Then you have Rubina and Quinn.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Can they get Rubina?

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Can they get Quinn is the question.

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn already has pledged that he will vote how they want.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But there are competing interests there.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He will vote how Joseph wants, how T Corp and chemo want, how Tucker wants.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: How does he decide?

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can tell you that he probably would be inclined to keep Brooklyn or Chelsea over Cam right now.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He has a better relationship with them.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think he is potentially somebody that they could grab.

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's Rubina, who would have to go against what Tucker wants.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But she's very close to T Corp and chemo and has basically no relationship whatsoever with Cam,

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: has a better relationship with Brooklyn and Chelsea, and might be inclined to go that way.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So keep all of this in mind as we run through the day,

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: because this possibility of a flip on Tucker via T Corp, chemo, and maybe even Rubina is very much a possibility.

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as you talk it through, I don't see.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, with that force of Tucker controlling all those votes,

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see it happening via a one by one campaign.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to go to the top.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to change his mind and then the other dominoes will fall because otherwise this is I just don't see the two week in a row split house happen.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I agree.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. I think that the conventional way to do this is you just convince Tucker through the force of the fact that most of the people in the Alliance want this to happen.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? Like, hey, Rubina, myself and chemo all really think that Cam should leave.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And so maybe there's a chance that works, but that's just not how they have been working.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, because Rubina may or may not be attached to this, Rubina might be able to push.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And so maybe it happens there.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But but anyway, just keep it in mind as we go through the day.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to go to Tucker's HOH and you got to get someone else who's not someone in who's a little bit maybe a Rubina to ask him open ended questions that he just talks and talks and talks for hours.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And eventually you try to lead him to the water. You can't tell him you can't you can't attack this directly.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a it's not a direction. You got to go around and get him to you got to accept him.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. I think the best way to do this is have as many conversations with Cam as possible and pick apart what he says and then start saying it back.

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, did you know that Cam was saying this about you? You know, stuff like that.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I like that because they're you know what, Taryn Cam this cams need to like do something there before before the Vita ceremony.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Him and Joseph wake up and they're they're playing bumper pool.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And both of them start saying Cam's like, what do you think about?

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And Joseph's like, well, you know, I'm feeling like I'm alone.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody has someone he's kind of lying because he feels like he is Tucker.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But then he says, then Cam says, well, I feel alone, too.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I don't have someone. And I was just sitting there being like, Cam.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, just just offer something. You're both.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not telling the truth, but you're both saying you're kind of alone in the game.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Just do something. This house is up for grabs.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Cam, just just put one foot in front of the other. Do something to secure your safety this week.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You're on the block, man. Listen, he's just doing.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He's really he's really not doing what?

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what's going on there now.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Brooklyn does talk to Quinn.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: She lets him know, by the way, I never ratted out our final two.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You've been lied to.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be willing to have a public conversation with Tucker about this if you want.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And says, I believe I believe you.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Now he had asked Joseph.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I don't know if he realized it later,

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: because basically what happened here was Quinn told Brooklyn that he was upon.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't supposed to.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Brooklyn went to Tucker and ratted Quinn out and said, Hey, Quinn told me that I was the target.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And that got Quinn in trouble.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_01]: When recognized that he screwed up and talked to Joseph and said, I I talked to Brooklyn.

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I screwed up. I told her I was a pawn.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And we made a final two.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Joseph told Tucker, hey, they made a final two.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Tucker said to Quinn, hey, Brooklyn ratted out your final two

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and the fact that you told her about our plan that you were on.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And she was.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Quinn was like, Wow, Tucker knows all of this.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_01]: How could he have known other than Brooklyn told him?

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe she betrayed me like that.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And seemingly forgot that he told Joseph or didn't think that Joseph would say anything.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He but he did then ask Joseph today, day 35.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, did you did you did you say anything to Tucker about that?

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I told you about with Brooklyn. Did you did you tell Tucker about that?

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And just like, no.

[00:47:26] No.

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, I assume that Quinn is feeling a little bit of doubt about who actually said this.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, like, what does it really matter right now at this moment?

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And so he's not digging too deeply, but I assume that he is a little bit conflicted.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I found Brooklyn to be pretty compelling in this conversation.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: She just had so much conviction.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It was very believable that the threat of a public conversation is also something that you don't bring up unless you're either really locked in on a lie or you feel very strongly that you're telling the truth.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think she handled this really well in terms of also, again, it's one of these things like starting the collective.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We have a final two like you didn't do any you didn't do much with it.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You're your H.O.H. once, Quinn, and you kept her safe.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Also, this final two happened recently.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not it's it's just we're fighting about something that's irrelevant.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: How are we going to move forward from this?

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And the more you focus, even though Brooklyn handled this really well, the more you focus on this little like minutiae, I don't know that it goes anywhere.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if the if the truth comes out, the Tucker is going to be like, yeah, Joseph told you know, there's no logical conclusion.

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what are we trying to get out of this conversation?

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But she handled it really well.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker is going to have a bit of a situation on his hands.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be talking with Leah up in the H.O.H. room or they go up to the H.O.H. room and they're talking and Leah is talking more about how she tells the truth and how how it's annoying that, you know, Brooklyn and Chelsea have been saying these things about her.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They've been saying that she's like trying to flirt with the men and manipulate them and pretend to be their friends.

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, like she'll say it like it's a man like she's manipulating Quinn.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Like she's definitely not been doing that.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And and they go on to talk about other things and they're talking and then MJ comes in and interrupts and things get really weird.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just it was already a little weird.

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But then things get even more weird because like clearly Leah doesn't want MJ there and she starts making these like comments about it.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And then MJ like recognizes that she's making those comments about it and calls them out in a joking way like, oh man, this is this is classic Leah.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Classic Leah doesn't want you don't even doesn't even want me here.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just what she did with Matt.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's it's.

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is the kind of cringe live feed moment that you can either really, really love and enjoy or just be filled with absolute just cringe and like hatred for it.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I I started on the cringe side and I came over to the lab like this is a really interesting human moment where two people are kind of into the same guy.

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're doing this weird competition thing with each other, but they're also playing big brother and like you two should probably be working together.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't it's just it's so odd.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It felt it felt very much like they were both very obviously like competing for Tucker's attention in this moment.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And like, like they're following him around the room and and like just make taking these shots at each other while also still being like, oh, but we're still friends.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And they even had a conversation in the day about like how they're still working together, even though they both talked so much trash at this point.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's it's just it's such a weird vibe.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, while they're up there, Kimo is going to talk to Rubina and let her know like, hey, and this is what he talked to T Corp about the night before.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little worried about Tucker and Leah and MJ.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little worried that they're like he's getting closer to them.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been talking to Leah so much. He's been talking to MJ so much he refused to put her on the block.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And what if what if he gets closer to them than us?

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And Rubina is like, why do you think so?

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's a more right now. That's a more logical conclusion than they're in there having this like pseudo human conversation and they're in their own endurance competition who can stay in the HOA troop.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: The longest like that's that's a lot weirder of a situation than oh, they're they're in a line.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the reality is both right. Like he both is strategically trying to pull them in.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And also there is and he's not oblivious. He knows what he's doing.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He's talking to them about how Rubina is like a sister to him and how like that's not that's not a thing.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And like he knows that Leah has a crush on him. He can see her eyes light up when he says that.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, like so, you know, there is stuff going on here and I think they recognize that he's probably playing on that stuff.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But then the question becomes like how genuine is it if he has all of these options? How good is that for us?

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Rubina kind of starts to spiral. She talks to T Corp and she's like, hey, chemo planted this seed with me and I'm starting to really worry about it.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And T Corp is like, I don't know. It could just be that he's doing this strategically.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, that's not that helpful actually because that's not great either.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And so T Corp doesn't really help much here to calm Rubina down.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the three of them come out and they walk down the stairs together and the vibe is still very weird.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they start like cooking in the kitchen. And it's just like they notice the vibe is still weird.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they're like, oh my God, look at this. It's exactly what we thought.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Tucker is he's playing for himself and we got to play for ourselves. That's how we feel about it.

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We should probably talk to Tucker about it. But you know, this is telling.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think I do think it's actually a good idea to talk to him about it.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I've talked to him in the right way because you don't want to send him down the wrong path.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: The danger of being this big personality where you have he just has this gravity where people are sort of floating towards him,

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: including the group that was talking Rubina and T Corp and Kimo.

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like you need to make sure that you're not bursting their bubble

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_02]: because if people see you as this thing that's greater than any human, the moment you're doing something that's not right or cool or you backstab them

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_02]: or something like that, or you spend too much time in your H.O.H. room with MJ and Leah, it can get dangerous for you.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So he needs to be careful with that because he knows how people see him.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But when you burst that bubble, it actually hurts more than like, oh, yeah, Quinn. Of course, Quinn was doing this stuff.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And Rubina is like, yeah, like when he was hanging out with them, he was like not looking me in the eye.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And when he like he hangs out with them during the day, he only hangs out with us at night.

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's really starting to get in her head about it.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And throughout the day, they're going to be having these conversations.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Rubina talks about how she recognizes that if any of us want to win this game, we can't keep talking around forever.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, how are we going to argue that he shouldn't win against us?

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Rubina is very much in this moment on this track of like, you know, we we can't be we will need to turn on Tucker eventually.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, here's here's the thing, though. I've talked about this before.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Thinking that a showman is actually going to cut their showman's partner is 99 times out of 100 a trap.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: In this moment, Rubina is kind of panicking. Right. She's feeling a little insecure.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like long before the end game even has to happen long before the actual reality of betraying Tucker and what that would feel like and look like.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Has ever even entered her consciousness. So it's she can talk all she wants about how she will cut Tucker and how like this.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we'll definitely look out for each other. It's going to be us three, not Tucker.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: She can say that all she wants right now.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not super likely that it's actually going to happen, and she will remember that these conversations happened.

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And you don't think she has that killer instinct here?

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Rubina has a killer instinct, but it's just like you just you don't often cut your showman.

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's that's another level of killer instinct. You know what I mean?

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's yeah, that's something that not a lot of people have.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're right. And then, you know, chemo chemo in three or four weeks from now might be paying for this.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. That's and that's the problem. Right.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially to me, the way she worded it when she talked about chemo was like he really planted the seed.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, she was already like having these moments of doubt about T-Corn chemo before because of the whole Pentagon thing and how things were being denied.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But but like the fact that this could in the future be perceived as they were trying to make me not trust Tucker because it's easier to blame them for planting seeds in her head than accept that she had her own doubts, especially when she's talking to the person.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if she if she talks to Tucker about how she didn't trust him, is she going to say this is on me?

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I was insecure. I didn't trust you. Or is she going to say, well, they really got in my head about right?

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot easier to say that, to say the latter, the former.

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's also you're you're allowed. It's we're not that stage of the game anymore where someone walks into a room and oh, yeah, I make really good pie at home.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like everybody's allowed to talk to everybody. You should be if you're not if in this week you're not in week five, you're not talking strategy to everybody in the house.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That's actually a huge red flag like something's going on. He's allowed to have his conversations and you've got to trust him.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, they do talk to Rubina about how they want to keep Brooklyn and Chelsea.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And Rubina says she's absolutely down for that. She also wants to keep Brooklyn and Chelsea.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So theoretically, they should or could have their vote, have her vote this week.

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But if it requires her to flip on Tucker.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: This could come to a head as early as this week. Right.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: If Rubina is a number that they need to evict Pam and Tucker is saying no, can she do that?

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Can they make that move happen under the oppressive regime of Tucker and the people that have crushes on him?

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_02]: No. You need Tucker. You need him to influence everyone else.

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Too much effort.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So now, listen, I agree.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But they already failed that last right like last week the easy move was to get Quinn on board and just not put Rubina up in the first place.

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But they did it the hard way.

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So they might do it the hard way again.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to see them try.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It would be fun.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It would. I mean, you can't you can't flip the house twice in a row and not expect to be nominated together.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Would be fun though.

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So they also talked to Rubina about the final five with Brooklyn Chelsea said she's down for that too, which again, I think is very dangerous because down for that right now.

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's information that if it gets back to Tucker, if she later feels better, like, you know, like, you know, it's it's we've I've mentioned this before.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's like when you have a friend, they've got they've got a significant other that they are mad about.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_01]: They're mad at right now. Maybe you don't like that person.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they're venting to you and you're like, yeah, they do suck. You do deserve better.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But then that was just a fleeting moment for them.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And they go back home and they go back to that person and they're hanging out, they're cuddling and everything is better again.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And now they're just remembering all of those things that you said about the person they care about.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, why am I not invited for dinner anymore?

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to give me brand Zeno?

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to be so careful about this in the Big Brother game.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It happens so often.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, we'll see.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It could come to a head as early as this week.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Could be a longer term thing, but we will see.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, so Leah, as I said, has been made aware that people are saying that she's manipulating Quinn and she ends up talking to Quinn.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And he asks her about it because he's obviously been told this as well.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And she puts on this whole performance of like breaking down and cry like I could never do that.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: They're lying about me. I can't believe they're saying this about me.

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I would like I Quinn, that is not true at all.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, oh, wow, Leah, I believe I think I'm being lied to.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well done. Very funny in the context of her talking all day long about how.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: She's a truth teller.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: How important that is.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it listen, this is a game and if she like, you know.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Good on her. Yeah, I don't know how long it'll last if he fact checks again, but.

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the problem is that the only people I think he would believe are T-corps and chemo, and they I don't think will ever say anything.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Joseph, maybe Joseph, but but I don't think Joseph would say anything either because he's going to protect his crush.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. She has a way around some players.

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So speaking of Joseph, Joseph tells the cameras that it's been a tough day.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been emotional, but part of his strategy is to play that up and spends a bunch of time alone so people will feel bad for him.

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't love that as a strategy person because I don't think it's working like I think in his mind he's I think what he's imagining is like Dan Geisling like like, you know, blanketing with a pillow on the bed and being like, oh, man.

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But the reality is that people are just like, Joseph's kind of sketchy. We don't talk to him enough.

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: When you feel something in the house, if you can accentuate that feeling for strategy, it can often be a good thing.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So if he's feeling sad after a veto meeting and he can use that strategically, that's kind of good.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: The issue is this was going on and there was just a big innocent group hang going on in the backyard.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: At some point, the the lonely loser act needs to turn into like a lovable weirdo.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like people want to feel positive. They want to feel like an ownership about your growth or something.

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And he kind of did this after Angela's whatever in week one.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a lot. Just go outside. Just go sit there outside laughing people's dumb jokes like you kind of need to be with the group a little bit.

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And that has me concerned. I do think it's great for managing his threat level and he will probably survive for a couple of weeks.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But if somebody needs an easy nom again, Joseph like not part of these groups like.

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. Yeah, I mean, like because the problem is that that Joseph doesn't have like the emotional connection to players like we talk about Dan.

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very hard to compare Dan, obviously. But like Dan very much did have like these very personal connections to people, very emotional connections.

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And so when Dan felt bad there in a public way, people really like their hearts just all that we feel for Dan.

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's our fault that he's that he's in this position. People are mad at him.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Dan would you would you would lay in that bed for like a few hours and then he would get up and start talking to people.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he'd be like, oh, guys, I and they'd be like, oh, Dan, we're so sorry.

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You'd be like, it's fine. It's fine. But that's not what's happening with Joseph right now.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't I think even know that he had an emotional day because like he's just kind of very even.

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You're like the whole point of having an emotion that you play in the game is you need transfer of emotion.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you need other people to feel what you're feeling.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you just feel that alone and that's part of your game, nobody else is feeling that they're just outside in the backyard talking about back home or talking about what was it?

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Rocket League, you know, right. Yeah.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I mean. Like he's he's up in like the have not room like, oh, man, I'm feeling pretty down, but I'm in here and I'm playing it up so that everyone feels bad for me.

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody can see it though. Like they're all hanging.

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They're hanging out out there like, you know, like and this is, I think, part of the issue because there's going to be a lot of talk about Joseph throughout the day from Rubina from P Corp, Timo and certainly from from the other side of the house that is very not fond of him.

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But like he nobody not a lot of people trust him in the game.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And part of that problem is this all this time spent alone.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he something that's commented on a lot is that Joseph will when talking to people be like, you know, he'll be very efficient with it, which in some ways is good because he'll get in there.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He'll be like, hey, we're talking. Oh, I shouldn't be in here too long. We shouldn't be seen to get.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to leave.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And he gets out of conversations. He doesn't linger.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think because of that, he loses this like emotional connection to people that others have.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And so what what they talk about, you know, Rubina and T Corp talk about this not long after he says this to the cameras.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, yeah, he's just so sketchy.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he talks about creating this alliance and, you know, he's going around the house today talking about how he's really upset.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He's really mad that people called him scared that he was called scared that he's playing a scared game.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I don't play a scared game. I created the collective alliance. That's not a scared game.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And like that's the thing he was really offended about.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And like that's that's what he's like, again, like trying to elicit some sympathy for.

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, they called me scared. How dare they?

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's doing all these things and he's just and there's not they literally say this.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: There's not any actual reason why we shouldn't like his actions don't tell us that we shouldn't trust him.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But we still don't. I just still we still don't trust.

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's something it would not surprise us in any way.

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: We would not be shocked if he turned on us and betrayed us and did something weird.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why he's a good scapegoat for other people, because especially at this stage of the game, if you don't have those relationships, which again, there's still space to build up, you can sit down with someone for two hours in there.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And it could feel like a week or a month of time in the regular world.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And with him, it's if people think that you're sketchy, if I'm in the house and I play it around him, I'd be like, all right, this is a perfect guy to throw under the bus because they think he's going to do this stuff anyway.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Rogue vote, Joseph. Someone flipped Joseph. Someone threw your clothes around.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you don't know the final two of them, Joseph, you know?

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just wish because I feel like he has so much more potential.

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like this strategy of actively avoiding conversations and being alone a lot is very actively detrimental to his game.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other thing obviously is like this constant like typing up of his own game and how he created alliances and how he doesn't play scare.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But like, but I feel like he could do.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: We see what he does with Tucker. He spends enough time with Tucker to really get in there.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And if he spent that much energy on other relationships, I think he'd be in a much better position long term.

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He still has plenty of time. But like, you know, he just he's so overconfident about his position.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He talks to the cameras about like, I trust everyone in my alliance.

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm good with everyone in the house except for Brooklyn and Chelsea.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And and like, and he's just not he's just like a lot of those people don't they're literally at that moment talking about how they don't trust.

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He just has so much potential. And I stand by that his superpower is threat management.

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_02]: What might be really interesting is if he does find himself on the block and he has to turn the jets on a little bit.

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be interested like even when Cedric asked him to be a pawn.

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I know this is this is this is wild in this house, but he simply said no, I know.

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Crazy. But but just having those instincts, he has them.

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to see him double down and kind of start making the moves because I know.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're all playing for jury. Blah, blah, blah.

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: The games games about we're five weeks and not halfway done with five weeks in.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's let's focus up and let's start playing because if you don't do it now, you're going to find yourself.

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe find yourself a week eight or nine or 10 and you haven't done anything and then you're just being dragged to that.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my my worry for him right now is that like he's if anybody outside of like Sixth Avenue and or Quinn.

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So like even even not Leah, but like I think MJ is certainly like any remnants of the Pentagon right now.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just such an easy person for his alliance to throw out in front of them and just be like, oh yeah, hey Joseph, him and Quinn really.

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So I Joseph talks to Leah and he he lets her know you're my favorite person in this house.

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I really, I really mean that.

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And like, you know, I like I really, really like working with you.

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, same. Oh, and he talks to her about how people called him scared.

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not scared. He never plays scared.

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But but he's still working on this alliance slash relationship.

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And and I do think that he you know, he is locked in with Leah to some degree.

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it is it is Leah. So, you know, how locked in is it really?

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But but this is I think despite the crush angle, still his best path to the end is actually getting in with Leah and working with her and not bringing Tucker to the final two and instead bringing Leah to the final two.

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But but we'll see. We'll see where that goes, because it's still very rocky and she obviously still is very attached to Tucker herself.

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I mean, this is another conversation where Leah, she does a lot.

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: She does a lot yesterday. But but another one where where she's good.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: She's very, very good at managing Joseph. Very good at managing Quinn.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_02]: They she she kind of is I think she's playing both of them a little bit.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And and she does well there.

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. All right. But then Tucker is going to have a conversation with.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And Brooklyn's just like, you know what?

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like what happened today went a little bit outside of the game.

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You were attacking my character, especially because nothing you said was even verified.

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot of it. And this is the line that they've been saying is that like, you know, some of that was true, but not all of that was true.

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And he just said it all with conviction, personal acts.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, no, it wasn't even verified.

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And Tucker's like, no, it was verified.

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's verified by me.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I've studied body language and I've been studying you.

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know that it's all true that you that that is what's happening.

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, what? What is true? What am I in charge of?

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you and Chelsea, me and Chelsea. What?

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: What? You took over the collective.

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't even supposed to be in the club.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't even supposed to be there. It's like that's not.

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've listened. I've been trained by the CIA.

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know what you've done.

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I know about the clothes.

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, that's another thing I'm being blamed for the clothes.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I did the clothes.

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He says, he's like, oh, how is it that I did the clothes?

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like I asked when and he instantly denied it multiple times.

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: When I asked you, you smiled and said no.

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like that's only because I thought it was funny.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would why would I do it? Why would I do the clothes?

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, listen, I just think your game is fake and I'm seeing right through it.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You say, all right, well, you can continue to think that I will.

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I will. And you know what?

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you have a terrible poker face. It's like exactly.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So why? Listen, I exactly I have a terrible poker face.

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would I continue to lie?

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't even lie like because you're trapped in a corner.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why.

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's what they ask.

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: They ask us all before we come in here.

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're trapped in a corner, are you willing to pull out all the stops, do everything you can to get out of it?

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know every single one of us in here said yes.

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_02]: This is such a such a horribly played conversation by both of them.

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I loved it. Tucker, Tucker, what's one of the things that's that's special or entertaining about him,

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: which isn't necessarily a good gameplay is that he's just not afraid to just say exactly what he's thinking directly to the person,

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: even though it makes them uncomfortable.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I think most of us in such a situation are not going to say all these things.

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You you're you're right.

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But he just even makes a shot at Quinn.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It was at some point. He says, the only reason I saved Quinn,

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: does he just say this to Brooklyn? He's like, the only reason I saved Quinn is because he is not a threat at all.

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He is terrible at this game.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's such an interesting conversation.

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Brooklyn also is like she's she's a little bit assertive here, which I actually don't know how what what the best play would be.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's just such a ridiculous battle of like two pretty strong forces.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a very funny conversation.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The feeds did come back to it.

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But but that was kind of the gist of it there.

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, just on funny stuff, funny stuff from Tucker and Brooklyn.

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know a lot of people were like watching this being like.

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We can't lose.

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_02]: We need people to go like it's great to have this force of nature in the house.

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: We need other forces of nature.

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So no crush on him.

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Zero crush. He is not under Tucker's spell.

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: She is locked in and she's coming after him.

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The power of a married mother. Yes.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So Joseph talks to Chelsea and she apologizes for going off on him earlier after the veto ceremony.

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They talked for a little while again, just more of Chelsea doing basically the opposite of Brooklyn and and just being like, I'm sorry.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, this slate will be wiped clean if I stay.

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it. We can definitely do something later again and rebuild.

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is exactly what Chelsea needs to do, especially if Joseph is a very key vote here.

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like her versus Brooklyn, even her versus Cam.

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: If she can maybe make Joseph feel like she is an option for him as well as Cam, then that that's that can only be a good thing.

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: The one thing she does well here as well as with T Corp is she kind of.

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she talks about Joseph creating the collective and her line as well.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I was brought in and the conclusion that she makes is if somebody I'm not going to go out building alliances, but if somebody brings me into one, I'll say yes.

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like you create your ideal combination of people and then bring me in.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a pretty compelling argument, especially in a house where a lot of the structures have been blown up and are rebuilt and you don't know what's real.

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: What's not like I? I'm really into this campaign.

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Bring me into an alliance. I'll say yes, I won't create anything on my own.

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And then really what's left is, of course, T Corp and chemo are going to talk late into the night about man.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Wish we had more time together.

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We just don't have enough time to talk during the day.

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You might have noticed slightly fewer T Corp and chemo conversations than normal.

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And man, did they feel it? They felt that so they're kind of.

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And they also don't have enough time to talk to Tucker. He's always talking to other people.

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they again talk about not trusting Joseph very much.

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And they talk about saving Brooklyn and Chelsea, Brooklyn and Chelsea this week.

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to have more conversations with people talk about it tomorrow.

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: See if it's something that they can do, if it would be worth it.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: If it's something that is a possibility, they want to have these discussions.

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure we will have those discussions today.

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They got to keep their distance.

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Just just this is they should be doing the Joseph's.

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: They should be having quick conversations. All right, let's get out of here for them.

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. For everybody else, though, really not.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they're so obvious together.

[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all they're almost too deep.

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yep.

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of where we leave off here.

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the intrigue right now, I think, is what happens if Ham is on the block against either Brooklyn or Chelsea?

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably even harder to swing for Brooklyn than Chelsea, but either way, still kind of a tough, a tough swing.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the again, the thing here is that the votes could be very tight if T Corp and chemo try to do something like they did last week where they procrastinate and they wait and they wait and they wait and then they have to go for it.

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But they are relying on votes like Quinn and Rubina.

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And Cam, despite not doing much, did do enough to you know, he had his conversation with Joseph.

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He also has a conversation with Rubina later in the night where like, you know, it's it's possible that she's feeling a little bit better about Cam there.

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And like enough again, similar to Chelsea where it's enough where it's like, okay, well, there's a world where it makes sense for me to maybe keep him instead of feeling like I need to get rid of Cam over these other two.

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: When it's like, it's fine for Cam to stay and it's what Tucker wants.

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That could be enough to swing Rubina back over on top of this again, like the regular amount of Tucker just wanting Cam to stay.

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And so like, yeah, like Cam just doesn't give much, but he also is a fairly stable presence.

[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's not a lot of reason to be upset with Cam and actively want him out beyond just not having much relationship with him.

[01:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that, you know, sort of helps him.

[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And when people do get into conversations with him and try to pull out of him, he's sometimes able to give some things.

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see. We'll see. Again, I think this is all very up in the air right now.

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's going to be potentially some conversations with Tucker and having Rubina involved in general means that this might be a little bit more of an active flip because Rubina is a bit more of an active player.

[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But but who knows?

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And I mean, Cam, it's not that.

[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Chat chat was loving Cam today.

[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's and he is doing the sort of on paper.

[01:20:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, don't do too much until later in the game.

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But like you need to survive the week. You need to get through it.

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Just do a little bit more. Make a couple of promises this week, which you could totally keep because you don't have a lot of promises.

[01:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Just find some people to work with, offer them something, and then you'll be you'll be OK for a little bit.

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, you can make a run if because there are a lot of people with enemies in this house and he doesn't really have that.

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: He is in a little bit of danger.

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say a decent amount of danger and he needs to be doing more, I think, because I don't think it would take very much because he has momentum on his side.

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He has the force of nature that is Tucker on his side.

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And so if he can just have a couple of conversations with a couple of these swing votes, maybe even T Corp and chemo themselves about like, hey, I really want to work with you guys.

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That alone might be enough to cause them to be like, if hems also an option, then like what is even the problem?

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But even people like when you know that would be super helpful if Quinn feels like there's an advantage personally for him to have him stay.

[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That would be huge. I don't think Cam will.

[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam is still very anti Quinn. He's been very anti Quinn since the Cedric's H.O.H. situation.

[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see, though, again, lots of lots of potential for more chaos this week because of the possible nomination combinations, particularly with Cam and the women.

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_02]: There was one there is one thing we didn't talk about that made me cackle yesterday.

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea and Angela are talking and I mean, I don't remember how they got there.

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But but Angela is like consoling her and she goes, it's it's week five.

[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody in this house has alliances. Pause.

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Not me. And then they continue.

[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was so funny.

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Classic Angela.

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Except for you. Don't talk to me.

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the.

[01:22:16] [SPEAKER_02]: The other thing going on, which.

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_02]: If we start hearing people talk about like Chelsea is the brains and Brooklyn is the social one.

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That's purely because this has been Tucker's like branding of them.

[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He's he's he's like he's he's like he's a good marketer.

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like when you repeat these phrases over and over, you can hear them like going through the house.

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that was kind of interesting. And whoever goes home this week, like if it is one of them,

[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I think part of it will be his efforts as a job to to to, you know, don't don't draper them.

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Very much so.

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: All right. Anything else, Kevin?

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think that's all it was. It was an exciting day.

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a lot of people are finding like weird things to zone in on, like who created this alliance or we have a final two that didn't do anything.

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: People need to focus on what's relevant to their game and what's what's happening right now or tomorrow or next week.

[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Stop thinking about the end game thing with the next next 10 days or so.

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Think about it, but focus on the next 10 days.

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: All right. Well, that is what we have for you then today.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I will of course be back tomorrow morning at 11 a.m. Eastern to update you and everything that happens today on the Big Brother 26 live feeds,

[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: including if there is any progress made on a potential flip here or if there are conversations that happen with Dr.

[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We will see.

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But in the meantime, we will also be live tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern for the roundtable.

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be releasing the survey after this after this update ends where you can rate the players yourself and give your thoughts on the week and feeds and season and all that stuff.

[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So check that out.

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Lots to talk about.

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Lots to talk about this week. Lots of changes in the ratings, I imagine.

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So stay tuned for that.

[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, tomorrow there's also going to be an episode later in the night.

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You can find me on Twitch watching the episode and then afterwards we will be live for recap it all here on our HP.

[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin. Yeah. What's going on with you?

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So this is actually my BB 26 podcast debut.

[01:24:20] [SPEAKER_02]: First of all, so thanks for having me, Taryn.

[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We I've we've done a lot of podcasts together.

[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We've never done an update. I've never done an update and I have a new I knew this was a hard job.

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I have a new I have a new found.

[01:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I already respect you very much.

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the world do you know that I have a newfound respect is there is so much information is very hard to organize it and put it into an accessible.

[01:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It is unbelievable.

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So so thank you for having me on what's going on over here.

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Izzy dropped her newsletter with the confessional.

[01:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're not on the confessional, we have a good time.

[01:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a newsletter.

[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You subscribe reality TV newsletters.com is he wrote about a style of gameplay that she finds really really rude.

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very fun read. I've seen some some some really good responses.

[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It's fun there. I will be on the diary room with a man and Matt Legory.

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know when that's dropping sometime in the future.

[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm on all platforms at Kevin to Jacob's Instagram tick tock.

[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll be at fan Expo and the Toronto International Film Festival pretty much every day if you're around in the area.

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what's up in my world.

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, of course, check out the tastemakers for scripted TV news and coverage.

[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: We watched the new alien movie gave some thoughts on that.

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[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But in the meantime, that is what we have for you.

[01:25:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you all so much for joining us here today.

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And I will see all of you next time.