BB26 Thursday Live Feed Update: We STILL Don’t Know Who’s Leaving Tonight!

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[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_03]: All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from P.O. to H.O.H.

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[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello everyone and good morning! Welcome to our Live Feed Update for August 15th.

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm your host Aaron Armstrong and I am here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday on the Big Brother 26 Live Feeds.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It was Day 30 in the house and it was the final full day before tonight's eviction.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_04]: There was a lot going on and despite what we said yesterday, we did in fact have to take the flip meter, the flip alert out of the attic, out of retirement

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Because there's stuff to talk about and with me to talk about it all is Asia. How you doing Asia?

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello Taryn, I'm doing well. You know I would just, I would, you know I miss the days when there were just two people on the block

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're just deciding who goes home. We don't have to run through a million different scenarios that 66% of them may not, don't even matter

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's not going to be the reality. And so it's just like, okay does this conversation matter? Like do I need to pay attention to this?

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not because Cedric is going to win the AI arena or probably not because MJ is going to win the AI

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so like that element I wish we could do away with because I feel like they are really, they're trying to play. The thoughts are there, the action

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But the thoughts are there to get out, to like really play. But we're just restricted right now with having to account for this unknown

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_04]: That is very true. On the other hand, I think it's allowing for more opportunity to flip because let me tell you

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yesterday, and this is the first time in history that this was even possible. There were two separate attempts to flip the vote. Different votes.

[00:02:46] Yes.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_04]: There were two flips on two different votes that happened yesterday attempted at least.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is an opportunity. You sound like a manager in corporate America. Here's more work. This is an opportunity for growth.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. Listen, it's more work for me.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_04]: All right. Well, of course, let's let's let's set us up here. What's for what's happening? Of course, Angela is an HOH when is the real deep fake HOH

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_04]: He nominated Cedric McKenzie Tucker. Tucker won the veto took himself down. Rubino went up as his replacement.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So for a while now, the consensus has been that Cedric is lock safe.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_04]: If McKenzie is on the block, she will go home. If she wins the AI arena competition, Rubina will go home.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Even chemo and T Corp have agreed to that despite a little bit of pushback and the occasional idea that maybe we should vote out Rubina over

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That coming from Chelsea.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So, so that's where the vote stood. But in addition to that, T Corp and chemo have been circling all week.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I won't even mention the let's rat out Leah plan because that still has not happened.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But they've been circling the other stuff all week of how do we create a resistance against the Pentagon?

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Without both Tucker and Quinn, because if Tucker and Quinn are going after each other, how do like that takes away two of our biggest pieces on the board to strike against the Pentagon.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_04]: So can we get the two of them to put aside their differences and come back together?

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And they've approached both of them a few times now with that idea.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And both of them have basically said, I mean, yeah, it's it's it's funny because it's like in what world are you wanting to min fences?

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Because ordinarily you you're fine with two people going after each other.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going after me, so they're going after each other.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a OK. And so I think the finesse here is trying to get Quinn and Tucker to realize why it's in their best interest.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they have to see what they can get out of it.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't feel like T Corp and chemo are selling that all that well.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Just it's just like, hey, look, you should hate men fences.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But why? Like what's in it for me personally?

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, for Tucker, he has a lot to gain for Quinn.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, not as much because he is in the Pentagon.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So put aside my differences with Tucker so that I can take out partially part of my power base and leave Tucker in the game.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: But but. There is another push here today on 30 and Quinn is reluctantly like agreeing.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what? Maybe there's something we can do here.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Not necessarily actually work with Tucker, but perhaps I can placate him.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's oh, oh, I hate that I used that word.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just tweeting about how Big Brother podcasters love to use the word play.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: They probably never use it in their real life.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I use it in my real life. Why wouldn't I?

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a regular word. Just wait until I'm placating you during your deep dive.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's when you start using when you're at happy hour and you're like, you know, guys, we don't want to be results oriented here.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: OK. But placating is a pretty normal word.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_04]: So I so he he talks to Brooklyn about this idea and and basically says like, yeah, sure, I'll play Kate Tucker.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm going to stab him in the back as soon as I have the option to.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_04]: If I win the H.O.H., I will just I will not nominate him and then I will backdoor him if given the option.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And and then he'll be like, oh, what?

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'll be like, whatever it's Big Brother Actual Bounce check.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's telling Brooklyn this.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Brooklyn also is going to tell him about five points finally.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's aware of that.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And he talks to T.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Corrin, Kimo about potentially working with Tucker.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And he also talks to Joseph about this plan to work with Tucker, at which point I'm like, this is this is what I tweeted out today.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, how many people are you going to tell that you plan to backstab this guy?

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: He says, yes, I'm pretty sure Tucker watched Big Brother 14.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_04]: We know he did. We just saw it in the episode.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm pretty sure he was a fan of Frank.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Lots of people were. But like Frank trying to win everything, you can't you can't win everything.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not comparing myself to Dan, which is a dangerous way to start a sentence.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But I want to do the same thing to Tucker that Dan did to Frank, essentially.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, man, trick him into thinking I'm willing to work with him in the first chance I get.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Boom. And so this is what I tweeted.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But like famously, Dan told a bunch of people what he was going to do during the funeral before he did the funeral.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That was right. That was the thing he did.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because everyone was just like great actors and they knew this was happening.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And that's why it works so well.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And no. And like they just all trusted Dan and wanted to work with him so bad that they just didn't rat him out, even though Frank was the H.O.H.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: It was you know, it worked out well.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the missing piece here.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I mean, did you know that Quinn is a big fan of like the podcast, you know, RJP?

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I heard that.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure about that. I feel like if he was, he'd probably be playing a little differently.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think the miss here is because he's also such a big fan of the show.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like you hear the references to these things happening multiple times.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But then Quinn was Dan sitting in the house saying, oh, when Dr.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Will did this thing, oh, I want to do it just like Dr.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Will. No, he was creative.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He came up with something to do.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what he's like.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying so hard to replicate when it's like you don't replicate and it becomes this great move.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to get creative.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. And, you know, he what he said to Brooklyn as well.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think this was a big part of the motivation yesterday was he was like, I don't want people to think that I'm that I'm like into this idea of working with.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't want people to think that Tucker has tricked me into actually working with him.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And he had said that to the cameras the night before as well.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's only it only makes Tucker look good for me to fall in line with him.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So I my my read on it is that like he not only wants the audience to know that like, hey, I'm not actually working with this guy.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm the one tricking him.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's be clear.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But he also wants his fellow contestants to know that he's not being tricked by Tucker, which has some validity to it.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But he has told too many people, especially somebody like Joseph, who he cannot trust.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Joseph has a secret final two with Tucker.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And if Tucker wins an H.O.H. and Joseph decides he wants Quinn to go home, look at that.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Not that it probably matters anyway, because we haven't even talked about the other side of it, which is that it hasn't even worked yet.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker still doesn't want to work.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. He's too caught up on not being fooled by Tucker that I'm like, Tucker doesn't want to fool you.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_04]: He continues the conversation with Joseph, though, and it is a good one.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And and it's interesting to see what they're doing here, because despite all of the stuff that's happening with the vote, there is still a group coming together through their efforts.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_04]: So they start talking about like who's playing the best game in the house.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Quinn has been talking about this for a while.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Quinn says Chelsea's playing the best game in the house, followed by Brooklyn number two and Joseph disagrees.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Joseph said, I think Chelsea's the only person playing better than me.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like every time I'm like, you know what?

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Joseph kind of is good.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And so you start to learn not to even have that thought because he's just to be a fly on the wall inside of Joseph's head, because he also thinks he's the comedic relief in the house.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We've learned. I think he just he has this own version of what he's doing.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Or I guess in how how well it's going for him, like he's not in an awful position.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's doing things.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's just this inflated view of what he has going on is I mean, that might be his downfall because he's not going to I mean, if Quinn is sitting here being honest with you about his perspective in the house, like his perspective.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to understand, like everybody's perception is the reality in the house.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You're the only one who has that perception.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't understand.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like I'm just trying to think about like, OK, let's imagine a scenario.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_04]: It's Big Brother 16 and Nicole Franzel calls Derek the Dan of the season.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And Derek is like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That's spot on. You got it.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what this is?

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: This is not even that this is Derek telling Nicole, hey, it's me.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm the guy.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Have you looked around who the Dan of the season is?

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's actually me. Whoever you think is playing better than me is not.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_04]: He says, Joseph says, I don't think Brooklyn's really playing that well.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she has people like that.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And Quinn's like, well, she kind of has me like.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And I kind of felt like she had a lot of people like that.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So I wasn't sure.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I was starting to feel like maybe she's more loyal to Chelsea and Joseph.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I do think she's a final two with Chelsea, but I don't think she has any like many other people.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And when I say, well, maybe maybe she is just loyal to me then.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. Here's the thing.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That's information that Joseph should want to hear.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if he like if he put his ego game aside, he should hear, oh, my gosh, Brooklyn is in a way better position in this house than I gave her credit for.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So I actually need to keep an eye on that rather than, oh, because me and Brooklyn aren't super close.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't have everybody in her pocket. No, she just doesn't have you in her pocket.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But look around. Yeah.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So they they they agree they're going to continue to work together, especially though, to pull in T-Corn chemo.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So they kind of orchestrate an approach to T-Corn and chemo because Quinn has been slowly trying to get the T-Corn chemo and Joseph on the same page about the Pentagon.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: He's told them both.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Both three of them, but T-Corn chemo are basically one person, both about the the Pentagon separately.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't know that each other knows about Pentagon.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And so he's trying to hint to T-Corn chemo.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, I think Joseph would be on board with a revolution at some point.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's been trying to hint to Joseph.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, I think T-Corn and chemo would be on board revolution at some point.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And in the meantime, Joseph has separately gone to T-Corn chemo pitching a final three, which when knows about.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And so, so it's basically like, let's let's really start to lock this in.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I will say that we had a conversation that I think you're really on board.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_04]: You will say that you think I'm really on board going and so forth.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_04]: They do that. And that's that's basically exactly what they are going to do in just a little bit.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But but but first.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: To finish off the Quinn Tucker storyline, Joseph does for what it's worth, go to Tucker and he says, hey, listen.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you should target when I don't think I don't think Quinn is worth targeting.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: We should like this truce thing.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I think you should go through with it because there's bigger fish to fry.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_04]: There's more dangerous people in this house than Quinn.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He's terrible at this.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_04]: He's so bad at this and Tucker is like, yeah, he is bad at this, but I want to target him.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But he's so bad at this.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Why bother targeting him? That's what I'm saying.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, I've forgotten more about this game than Quinn has ever known.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I know hints that Quinn plans to betray Tucker, but a different argument than Quinn is using, of course, which is, hey, Quinn sucks at this.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He should not be your priority, which honestly.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Isn't the worst argument. Yeah, it's yeah, not not not true.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So so Tucker, I mean, Joseph is and this is where I'm like, OK, I do think that Joseph is sometimes good at this because he is playing a lot of sides and he's he's not blurting out all the information at all times.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He's just talking about how good he is all the time, which he shouldn't be.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But apart from that, it's not bad. Yeah, you take that away.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He's he's doing well. He's getting in his own way.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, so that's because I'm kind of going in plot lines here because the the chronology is all over the place from yesterday.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the Quinn and Tucker storyline.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no real resolution to it. Tucker is actually going to pitch to Cedric because we all know.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker doesn't want to work with. Yeah, Tucker wants to work with Cedric, with Cam, with Kenny.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like those are the guys he wants to work with.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And so he actually goes to Cedric and he's like, hey, hey, if you win this thing, us two, nobody will expect it.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Like we can we can bury the hatchet. Cedric has no intention of.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's already gone.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_04]: This is this is the thing about Tucker is that Quinn actively wanted to work with Tucker was in multiple alliances with Tucker.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Was planning to overturn the power structure with Tucker's help.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker was like, nah, I want to work with the bros.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So Tucker went to the bros, Cedric and Cam, and he was like, let's take out Quinn.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it. And they were like, actually, no, we don't want to work with you.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to side with Quinn. And he was like, how could you?

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That's terrible. And and now he is in a position again where he's like, OK,

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I've got the guy that did want to work with me, but I betrayed him.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Or I've got the guys I wanted to work with who betrayed me.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's them. I'm going to go with the bros again.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And quite frankly, I'm not blaming him in this instance because nobody's going to work with him at this point.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But like there's no right choice anymore.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_04]: But the previous choice. Right.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, and that's the that's been Tucker's issue, which is other people's.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: OK. Tucker's issue is that he's action, all action.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to talk it out.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Consider all the pros and cons before he goes and does like go and says something or like, oh, OK, I want to go talk to them.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to talk to them. Whereas we have other people.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The obvious T Corp and chemo who action is like the last thing on their agenda.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like we have to have we have to meet somewhere in the middle.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's there's people in there who do that.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They're just not like I can't think of like an exact example, maybe.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm hmm. Yeah. But anyway, I think that's been Tucker's issue so far is like if he did just sit down and kind of meditate on what he wanted to do,

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: he could have figured out, OK, maybe I shouldn't go so hard against Quinn because maybe there's something there.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if I'm not like if I see Quinn and Cedric and Cam like having conversations, maybe there's something going on there.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I shouldn't go as hard because he could have seen this.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: What happened last week was going to come. He was just so blindsided.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's where that's where it basically stands right now with Quinn and Tucker.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no real truth. There's a plan for them both to betray each other, but there's never actually even been like an agreement to not go after each other.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So we'll see where all of that goes. But in the meantime, there's still a vote to talk about.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And part of what T Corp and chemo have mentioned is that that while they have agreed that Cedric should stay over Rubina,

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: they are very concerned about the vote count because Tucker expects the votes to be there to evict Cedric.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He has expected those votes to be there all week long.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And if the votes come in to evict Rubina over Cedric, Tucker's going to be looking around like who flipped and in an ideal world for T Corp and chemo,

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_04]: they're able to give Rubina sympathy votes so that Tucker won't get mad at them.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And it would hide the alliance. Right. That's the hide the alliance. So on and so forth.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_04]: To that idea, Brooklyn says. No, no.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_04]: If if some of us have to betray five points, all of us have to betray five points.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It does not make sense to do it. We are all voting Rubina out against Cedric.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_04]: That is what we need to do. Yeah.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and she is correctly assuming that like this is this will be not a line in the sand,

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but it will test chemo and T Corp's loyalty because it's like to Brooklyn.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, what? Why are you trying to cover your butt with Tucker?

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's no other reason than if, you know, you're not loyal to the Pentagon or the collective or whatever.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. And so it's like that is what they're trying to do.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to ride the middle and make sure they're still good with both sides

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: if they were to go through with this and know that, you know, the votes were going to follow how the collective wanted them to.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I just I think it's a sticky spot for T Corp and chemo,

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: which I feel like they put themselves in, which we'll get to.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So, so it does.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_04]: It does kind of annoy them that this idea has been shot down and there's basically a period of time.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So how would they normally work for those not actively watching is that T Corp and chemo will spend most of the day

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_04]: talking to each other and never actually act on any of the ideas that they're talking about.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But they spend a large amount of time talking to each other about strategy.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_04]: What happened yesterday, a third is that they did that same thing, except it was campaign day.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And so people were just coming in and talking to them while they talked about strategy all day long.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And all of a sudden things were looking like they were maybe happening.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden they are co-HOHs because why are they like setting up shop

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and people feel the need to have one on ones with them specifically?

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they even quit chemo, even straight up calls it.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you're coming in for your one on one with us.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_04]: There's some terriology math going on there.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_04]: There's three of you. There's not it's not a one on one.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_04]: You two are not one person.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like there's this game that you like you're in a group of people and you name you.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You can count to like 100 or something, but you just can't talk over another person.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And like when you start it, you say we are one and then you do it.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what Timo T Corp Timo.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what Timo is doing. Yeah.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I think, listen, I don't agree with any other anything other than Timo.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Timo is the only way to do it.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Well, what else are people doing?

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Timo. I think like there's all kinds of it's Timo.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It is Timo. It's the easiest thing to say.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And it already sounds like it could be someone's name,

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: which they are the realest showman's that we've had this season

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: because they are just at this point in what at this point in the house, who's saying,

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: oh, I just need to make sure I get T Corp.

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you better work chemo in those plans because when you're going to get T Corp

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_01]: alone to have a conversation, it's just they've cemented each other to each other.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't I think it was all haha and giggles and fun.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. When people come in and oh, we're talking to y'all again.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll wait my turn till I talk to you two until they're sitting on the block next to each other next week

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: when people are like, no, we need to split them up because they could be a detriment to these alliances.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't if they can't get to Tucker, then it's just like, OK,

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: you're looking in the pecking order. What are you going after?

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah, like why if MJ goes this week?

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: What I mean, in Leah and MJ aren't even a thing, but it's like.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Why not go after them if MJ leaves Pentagon wins H.O.H.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_04]: and Tucker is safe, they absolutely should target.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. It's just it's so clear.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like y'all set up there and had the power to have alone time with the whole house pretty much

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: because at that point it was like, oh, if I haven't gotten my one on one with Timo today,

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: let me go in there because everybody else is.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And no matter if it was like fun talk like it was with Cam,

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: which we can dive into or strategy like they were talking to like Tucker or Quinn or Joseph.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't that was not a good look.

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that they just they're getting too comfortable is what it is.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Speaking of terryology, by the way, there's a new theory that Cedric is Terrence Howard's son.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did spend a good amount of time, maybe like 10 minutes looking because Cedric said

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: that his mom is a part of a like a 90s girl group and there's no sign and tear or Cedric is too young to have a Facebook.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't see anything there.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I tried to see like, oh, is anybody you know my baby Cedric?

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no mom out there is is publicly claiming Cedric's existence on Big Brother, at least where it's searchable.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, I know it's not Terrence Howard, but I want to know who he's related to.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. OK, so Tico and Kimo, they do encourage Rubina to talk to Quinn because they're it's campaign day.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone's campaigning and Rubina is like, oh, who should I talk to?

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to talk to this person. They're like, you should talk to Quinn.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like. I'm not going to talk to Quinn.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no point. Like, what do you mean?

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no point. It's like he already told me as long as Tucker's here, like, what can we do?

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I just they're like, you should still talk to him.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, so I just like I just don't think there's a point.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_04]: They're like, Rubina, you do not know how things might have changed.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Please. She does eventually go talk to Quinn and she comes.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a very good conversation, she said.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_04]: They essentially agreed that she is a separate player from Tucker.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_04]: He even was like, Tucker will need to go at some point.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And she was like, I know. Yes, I agree.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And and Quinn does not want her to leave.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And so she's very happy. Thank you for telling me about it.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And so so that talk happens.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And it is it is good because, you know, there is later going to be an attempt to flip this.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But but there's so there's some campaigning happening there.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Cedric is also campaigning. He he campaigns to Timo.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And they the only question they're really interested in is, OK, Cedric, great points.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_04]: What happens when we get down to eight?

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And Cedric is like, I will figure it out.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. When it comes, you know, it'll we'll figure it out.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure we'll work something out.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly the answer to show you that you are on the bottom.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You were the first out.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Brooklyn is the one that said, OK, after we get Tucker out, we get Leah,

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: we get Rubina.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Then we need to go for Timo like Tico and Kimo, because, yeah,

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like once those stragglers are out, like y'all are the biggest concern

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: at this point because you're becoming two votes.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: No other people in the house, no other duo in the house is a given to vote,

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: like which which makes you all as bad as a showman.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It makes you worse than a showman.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Because even the even showman says have the the the possibility of breaking up.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't even have that on the line.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Y'all are just he said he calls her a word that is the equivalent of sister.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Y'all are blood at this point.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's dangerous.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. So Quinn comes and talks to them and he gives them the pitch for Joseph.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_04]: He says, Joseph, so good.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_04]: He's he was telling me like, oh, I'm worried about Kam, Cedric, Chelsea and Brooklyn.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, yes, yes, this is so perfect because he's the one that told them about it.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, yes, this is so perfect. He's so down for this.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: He's definitely going to work with us. It's going to be great.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And they're excited, too. They're like, oh, that's so good.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, I'm a little worried about Brooklyn, though.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_04]: She seems really loyal to the Pentagon.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But don't worry, we're going to like we're going to flip this game on its head soon.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_04]: This is going to be great.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_04]: What we got to do, we got to somehow get in the diary room all together.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Visionaries, diary room session.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And they're like, that seems hard.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, somebody's going to be great. We just rush in there.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, and when would that happen where people are not like, well,

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: why are those three in the diary room together?

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Joseph also comes in and has his one on one with them.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_04]: One on two with them.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: He does the same thing. Oh, I was just talking to Flynn.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And Joseph approaches it differently.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, Joseph is like, you know, that kind of sucks, but I think we can work with him.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I think he's down. I think we have him.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's way more with us than he is with them.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think we can make something work.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And and we can really again, we can like really, really do something.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I think soon and Kimo's like.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Soon. What on now?

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean?

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what happens if MJ wins the arena at Cedric versus Rubina on the block?

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Why don't we just flip the game now and vote out Cedric and keep Rubina?

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about keeping Rubina, right?

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about wanting to work with Rubina.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Why don't we just do it?

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And Joseph is like, oh, man, I am down, but that seems too soon to me.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It seems a little too soon to make that happen and show our cards.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And T Corp is like, I agree.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I also think it's too soon.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And Kimo's like, but why is it too soon?

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Why not now? What if we never have another chance?

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: They're like, I think we'll have other.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I think it's just it's just a little too soon to make that move.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But I do want to keep Rubina.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I do. I would like man, really, we hope that MJ doesn't win that A.I.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_04]: arena competition because, man, it would be great if we could keep Rubina.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_04]: They're like, yes, because we like Rubina more.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And Joseph is like, yeah.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And then they laugh.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, I don't have to like her to work with her.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just you know, I want to work with her.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, yeah.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you see the logic in it being too soon?

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, OK, here's what I will say.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_04]: After Joseph leaves, Kimo pushes T Corp on this again.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And he keeps pitching like, hey, we really need to do this.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to tell Tucker about all of this.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And we need to make this flip happen and work with Tucker.

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that the right move or T Corp is to flip to keep Rubina.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's the right move.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_04]: When I hear Kimo pitch it to T Corp, every instinct in my body says no, no, bad move.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_04]: This is not good.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I disagree with everything you're saying.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So the way that the chemo pitches it would make me feel very hesitant in the moment.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I will give T Corp that because the way Kimo pitches it is so obviously Tucker centric.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So obviously, like this is the way that we get in with Tucker and we lock in with Tucker.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And like, you know, if we don't do this, Tucker will be mad at us.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's like when I hear that, I am like, no, this is not for Tucker.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_04]: If we did this, this would not be for Tucker.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That is not how we play this.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is a genuine concern because it is a risky move.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you are not locked in on a risky move, it can be much worse.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_04]: That said, I still do think it is the right move.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Her logic of it's too soon.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_04]: What happens if Chelsea, Brooklyn, Ham win an HOH and they come for us?

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It is a concern.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: That is like when we think about last season when when Corey flips the game on Jared and Suri and then wouldn't you know it?

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Jared wins that HOH.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_04]: That is a rough spot to be in for sure.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_04]: That said, it was Ham that left that week in the same way that it might be Tucker that leaves the week.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But there's no AI arena competition that season.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So it is risky.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know, there is still room to play and it does, I think, cripple that alliance, the Pentagon so much because you have so many other outs.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is part of what Kimo is arguing, but I don't think he necessarily argues it well.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_04]: But like he's like, we have so much dirt on people.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Like we can make this happen.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And he is right there.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Like in the event he doesn't pitch it this way.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But but in the event that Chelsea, Ham, Brooklyn win an HOH, they are now alone.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_04]: They're alone.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_04]: M.J.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Leah voted against them.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone voted against them.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And they might, you know, you might be like, oh, well, T Corrin, Kimo voted against T Corrin, Kimo did this.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they think that.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, they may also think we are without numbers.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_04]: We are lost.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_04]: How do we get back into the swing of things?

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, T Corrin, Kimo hold the keys to Tucker.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_04]: T Corrin, Kimo hold the keys to Joseph and Quinn.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And if they need to say, hey, the only reason we did this is because Quinn told us about the Pentagon.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's a pretty significant thing to drop to help protect yourself.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_04]: You have a lot of outs.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But but if you are T Corrin, you know that you haven't used out before.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, say you didn't talk about Leah Betraying Quinn.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, so it goes a lot of different ways.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Are they the right players to make this kind of move?

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe not.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But but that is basically the the conflict between the two of them.

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Kimo wants to do it, but maybe for the wrong reasons.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. And T Corrin doesn't want to do it.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, probably also for the wrong reasons.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it could be for she doesn't want to do it because she understands that they aren't the right players to do it.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because my issue with the too soon logic is that if you already understand you're at the bottom of the collective and of the Pentagon,

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: like you're the bottom of the big alliance and the sub alliance.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you want to wait to flip on those people when you don't have the numbers.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the issue is the numbers.

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And like I see what you're saying with Kimo.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_01]: His his whole motivation is Tucker, which OK.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Forget about Tucker for a second.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Think about everyone else that you're picking up by deciding to make this flip while you have the numbers.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If you continue to eliminate people from that side, you never have the leverage to make that flip and be and have like longevity in the game because now OK, what are you going to make the flip and have two people on your side?

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I think, yeah, I think Kimo's on the right track with wanting to flip it.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But you're right. He's not selling it well.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's that's how I felt.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So so as of right now, they're unsure.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_04]: He most pushing it.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_04]: T Corp is pushing back a little bit, a bit reluctant.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's too soon.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_04]: They get interrupted.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't finish that conversation.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: In the meantime, though, and this is what I what I teased at the start of this podcast.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a whole separate push to flip a whole separate vote.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Chelsea starts talking to Cam about.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Should we really vote out MJ over Rubina?

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_04]: If it's MJ versus Rubina, shouldn't we vote out Rubina?

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And my answer to that is also absolutely.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_04]: The problem with this is that you haven't done the legwork for it.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_04]: You've been sitting around all week waiting for things to happen, letting your relationship with MJ and Leah start to wither away.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And in the meantime, the vote has been locked in more and more for MJ to stay.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And so at this point, the attempt to push is perhaps even more detrimental to your cause than helpful.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But she talks to Cam about it and she kind of feels like what if we made this happen?

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_04]: What if we did this?

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is also very frustrating to me because we spent all of last week and even a good portion of the beginning of this week talking about how how Chelsea and Brooklyn were in the best positions in the game.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And if they wanted to, they absolutely could control this vote.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And they sat around on their hands doing nothing all week.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Not talking to MJ as much, not talking to Leah as much.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, all of a sudden, they don't have control over MJ and Leah's votes, which means the vote could flip on Cedric.

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_04]: They can't even get the vote off of Mackenzie to Rubina anymore.

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And quite frankly, Cedric should not be on the block in the same way that Rubina should not be on the block.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_04]: They should have said no to this.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. I don't understand why they act like a switch was flipped for Wednesday is when you need to figure out what's happening on Thursday.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_01]: There's just I mean, it feels like the moment will know it's it's before that.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say the moment like once you the the noms are locked in, you know what's happening with the veto.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, they should have had more influence on it.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They acted like this deep fake H.O.H. was so unknown.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know who's going to go up.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We have no control over that. That is that's just in there.

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And then just allowing Quinn to just have the power to say.

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we see in the episode that Brooklyn, you know, had the idea as well to like let's go ahead and weaken Tucker by getting out Rubina.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, where was the pushback?

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you acting like you aren't in an alliance with this guy?

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not some random person that's deep fake.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a mystery who has this power.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So it it just feels yeah, this this late night H.O.H.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_01]: This late night flip of just like, why don't we try to do this?

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Just like you just went.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Where has this energy been?

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can't be so confused why it's people aren't willing to make this move now.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like you are not Izzy and Suri.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have the power to just do this whenever you want, because Izzy and three were constantly maintaining.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And so when when they wanted to flip, they had the influence to do so.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_04]: We were talking about this with Brooklyn and Chelsea throughout the time we talked about them being in the best position was that they were not active about it.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just there. It just kind of happened.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They were in that spot, but they were not doing anything to lock it in.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And now that is starting to slip away.

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Now it may recover in the event that certain things happen.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_04]: If anything, it might be their best case scenario if like MJ wins the A.I. arena and Rubina does end up leaving.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_04]: If that's still what happens, because it would be worst case scenario if Cedric ended up leaving.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But but even then, just like it's such a drop ball.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_04]: You have have let the relationship with Mackenzie and Leah deteriorate in the way that they were a huge part of why Chelsea and Brooklyn were in such a good spot.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And they never valued those connections and and they're now paying for that.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So they the Chelsea starts this push, but Brooklyn doesn't even want to do that in the first place.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Quinn is also against it. It dies on the vine very quickly.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. But it's another thing that comes back to T Corp and chemo.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And they're like, excuse me, you're still pushing for this.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You still want Rubina gone over Angela.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You clearly have no respect for our position in this game.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And it makes chemo push T Corp again.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to do this. We need to flip.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And she seems a little more willing to do it after this, but still hesitant to commit.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And again, they never really reach a conclusion here.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And the night ends without them having reached a conclusion.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's significant because there's not a lot of time during the day on Thursday.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Today before the eviction for them to lock something in.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_04]: There is time we've seen it happen before this house, especially though, has been very reluctant to do much game talk.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Thursdays before the eviction. There's even been talk that they're like, oh, I don't know if we're allowed to talk much game on Thursday.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: They are. But like they just feel like this is not really the day to do this stuff.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I think there's a good chance that because it wasn't locked in the night before, it may not be locked in.

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And part of the reason why is because it's not just them having a conversation and deciding to do it.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_04]: They would need to then go and talk to other people about it, which is something that they often find challenging.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So so that is where we stand at the moment.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. And I think the difference in like being able to say that this was like a waffle Wednesday was in Big Brother 25, they would make a decision.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it would have and then then they would find reasons to change that decision rather than, oh, well, should we?

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And then when it's just floating in the air, no one wants to be the person to say, OK, this is what we're doing, because it makes it seem like you're the one in charge.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You're the one leading it. And because no one is taking that initiative to make the decision to flip, like this is what we're doing and this is why.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we have people, this is what we're doing.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Then it's just like, oh, oh, loosey goosey and why we have no decision at the end of the night.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yeah, yeah, Mr. Roy.

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_04]: No waffles all batter.

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Literally, literally no waffles, all battered too much water is just like you can't get anything going with that.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So so that is the vote flip storyline.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_04]: There's still other stuff, a couple of other things to mention.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_04]: One thing in particular is that, you know, I guess like we should talk about the votes, but particularly there's, I think, one vote that's very important, which is Leah's vote and where she stands.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But basically, in the event that MJ is up against Rubina, despite the flip attempt, it should still be MJ that leaves.

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_04]: If it's MJ versus Cedric, it's definitely MJ that leaves.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_04]: If it's Rubina versus Cedric, this is where things are.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker, T-Core, Keemo could be locked in votes for Rubina to stay over Cedric, for Cedric to leave.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_04]: MJ, having come off the block and Leah could be the fourth and fifth votes to evict Cedric easily without any other support from the collective or the Pentagon.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_04]: MJ wants Cedric out because he nominated her last week and would be happy to vote him out if she knew that was the plan.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Leah is also perfectly happy to vote Cedric out right now.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_04]: She's been talking to Rubina, she's been talking to T-Core and Keemo, and like I said, Chelsea and Brooklyn have been neglecting the relationships that they had with Mackenzie and Leah.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_04]: They very much had the two of them.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_04]: They would be asking Chelsea and Brooklyn where to vote, but now because they've been neglecting those relationships, they're asking everyone where they should vote.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_04]: In particular, Leah is asking Tucker where are the votes?

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_04]: How should I vote?

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_04]: He says you should definitely vote out Cedric.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_04]: The votes are there to take out Cedric.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_04]: She's asking Quinn how should I vote?

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Where are the votes?

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_04]: He's saying you should definitely vote to keep Cedric because Cedric is going to stay over Rubina.

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_04]: That's where the votes are.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_04]: She's getting a bunch of conflicting information.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_04]: She's going to T-Core and Keemo and she's like where are the votes?

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_04]: How should I be voting?

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And they're like we'll figure it out.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So Leah doesn't really know where to place her vote right now to be in the majority, but I think she's perfectly willing to vote anywhere.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_04]: MJ is roughly in the same spot, but that's not even counting the fact that Joseph did say he'd be down to do it.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if he actually would be, but the bottom line is if T-Core and Keemo want to do this, they can without Quinn and Joseph's support.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Now that makes it riskier because now they are potentially burning two of their potential allies against the rest of the Pentagon.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And quite frankly gives Quinn and Joseph a lot of reason to be like, hey, we're back with you Pentagon.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's this is now a split house.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But you may have noticed what happened to Quinn's vote.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what's being asked in the chat.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So this is confusing.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Quinn has operated all week long under the assumption that he has a vote, that Angela would be the tiebreaker and that he can compete in the following HOH.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_04]: As of recently, apparently he was told you actually don't have a vote.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_04]: There's only going to be nine votes this week.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Both you and Angela are not voting.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And now there is some it's like now it's like he may not be able to be in the following HOH and that Angela will be able to compete in the following HOH.

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's a little unclear about what is actually true right now.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I will say, I think that this is the better version.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think Quinn should vote.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he should compete in the following HOH.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_04]: However, I think it's super sketchy that he went through the whole week thinking that.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And then quite frankly, very obviously they changed the rules at the last minute because if the rules had always been this way, they would have said, hey, when when he's telling people he can vote and he can play, they would have called him in and been like when that's not how it works.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not allowed to use production as a strategy and tell people this.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And so very clearly, like production did some shady stuff here.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_04]: They did some shady stuff to go into the I think what should be the correct way of handling it in the first place.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But they should have said that up front and not change the rules based on what they want to have happen.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was confused about because the way that Quinn said it was that he has assumed he said that was on me for assuming that I would get to play and that I would get to play next week.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And they to which comp and that I would get a vote.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, so that's on me for assuming he's like, apparently I was just in the dark.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I just assume these things.

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But but that's the thing is that even if it was just an assumption, he was saying it with conviction, with certainty to other players who believed him because of exactly what he had been saying prior to the veto ceremony where he said, I named the replacement nominee.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't lie about this.

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't use production as a strategy.

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_04]: This has to be true because I'm saying it out loud and production is calling me on it.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_04]: He then says, I also can vote and I also can compete in the following H.O.H.

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_04]: He was not struck down by a bolt of lightning.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He is therefore being confirmed by production.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And the fact that they didn't call him on it means that they either screwed him up, screwed up by not calling him on it.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Or I think more likely they just changed the rules later on because this is how they prefer for things to go in this particular instance.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And last season, they wanted it to go a different way.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And the season before that or two seasons before that, they wanted to go a different way.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And so they are extremely inconsistent about their rules regarding these kinds of things to the point where they seem to be changing them in the middle of the week.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The end of the. Yeah, because what do you think about Angela getting to play?

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I I think Angela should be able to.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Quinn should not be able to play.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Quinn should not be able to vote.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think Angela should vote either.

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I think again, I think they landed on the correct if this is how it works.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think this is the correct way to do it.

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just that they shouldn't have changed at the last minute and or should have been very clear about how this works in the first place.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's the latter because I wonder if it was a situation where.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The like it wasn't defined yet or that was like a because I mean, because Quinn, I think it was to MJ said that like he didn't even ask like, OK, what are what are the rules?

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But with something like this, you would think there are rules, right?

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, that's that's I could see Quinn doesn't seem to be frustrated.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But we you know, we've seen that the lack of vulnerability with Quinn in the past month.

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't be surprised if he were frustrated.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it'll be interesting to see.

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because what was the plan?

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's the thing. What was the plan if the deep fake H.O.H. was actually a deep fake H.O.H. and no one knew who it was?

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. And I will say like to clarify, when I say he shouldn't be able to compete, I what I'm saying is same thing that happened to Claire.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that what happened to Claire, yeah, the fair way to do it.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And it became unfair when Jag didn't have to throw the next stage.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's so to be clear, when Claire had the ability to overtake the H.O.H., she was forced to throw the following H.O.H.

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So that is theoretically it was a secret power.

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And and so she still competed, but she could not win.

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_04]: She had to throw the competition so that she could secretly not be able to win the following H.O.H.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that there should never be a situation where the same person makes nominations two weeks in a row.

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that is a fundamental part of Big Brother, both for fairness and also more importantly, for the television entertainment.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_04]: The same person being in charge two weeks in a row, even if it's Angela, is not what we want to be.

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_04]: So so so yeah, I think that's the case.

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But then and then it also comes back to like literally in the episode last night, he was in the diary room at the end of the episode saying,

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Tucker, I'm just going to win next week and put you up like because he assumed he could play.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And they put that in the episode, which again tells me that that was the plan and that they changed the plan.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, I I will say this.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's I still think it's better that he is not playing.

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And if they had changed the plan last season so that Jag couldn't play, I would have thought that was also better.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the better outcome.

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But in the worst possible way to get there, if you are changing it halfway through, they should be told how it works.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_04]: It should be consistent. I think that is important.

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But but I do think that this is how things should be moving forward.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Always when there is a power that takes over an H.O.H., the person that does that counts as their H.O.H.

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_04]: They cannot play, they must throw whatever the case may be.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's how it should work. Very clear.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. Period. So.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's so that's where the votes stand. Right.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_04]: You could theoretically get Joseph's vote, but he is not really super on board with this idea.

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But if you wanted to flip this vote, you could do so with Leah and M.J..

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's part of the problem.

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_04]: If decor finally agrees to flip the vote, it means that they have to go to Leah and M.J.

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And make sure that they are on board.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And then they also will have to talk to Quinn and probably Joseph and get their buy in as well.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think that they will want to buy in.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_04]: They will be pretty reluctant.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And so all of this will need to happen during the day today while they're doing rehearsals and getting ready.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's a lot to ask for, especially now that the momentum may have slowed.

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_04]: So. It's not impossible, but that's kind of where we stand with the vote.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wish it was a little bit more like it's one of those things where I find myself every

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Friday having to explain to my friends that only watch the episodes what happened, like why did the vote go the way it did?

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, it's because of X, Y and Z.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's hard because it's like, well, yeah, if they do decide to flip things today, it's going to make no sense tonight on the episode who gets voted out.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to I mean, all of us are going to explain to our episode only friends again.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't think there were it didn't have enough legs yesterday to actually get something going.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So it seems like. You know, if MJ doesn't win, she goes home.

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_01]: If it's Cedric and Rubina, then Rubina is going.

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the most likely outcome right now.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But they. Yeah.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_04]: So a few other things.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Kimo at one point told Rubina, hey, Brooklyn's not voting for you if it's you and Cedric, which freaked Rubina out.

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And T Corp later had to give Rubina a bit of a pep talk.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And they were both frustrated with chemo throughout the day.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Rubina shouldn't be because he's only telling her the truth and trying to help her.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But but I think T Corp's frustration came through to Rubina, who is frustrated as with with chemo,

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_04]: because again, he is trying to help her.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But like also. There's a lot of Tucker in the motivation and they see that they're like,

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_04]: he's just so obsessed with going to work with Tucker.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And so they're a little frustrated with that.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And some of what he's saying comes off as paranoia.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And so they're they're they're not super pleased with chemo.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And for. Yeah, like for your own.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even what can we call.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even there has to be a good word.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe people will land on it for what you can call T Corp and chemo.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But for even for your person to think that you're being the paranoid one.

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like that. That's not a good thing.

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I understand that she understands like his his attraction to Tucker.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's like when that is the thing driving any decisions you make.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Because if Tucker weren't there, chemo would have no incentive to to go against their alliances.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is the thing, too, though, like in this happened so often is that like,

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they feel this way if chemo hadn't gone to them and been like,

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_04]: guys, I'm in a lot of trouble. I've got a crush and it's clouding my judgment.

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_04]: The second you say that now, anytime he talks about Tucker, they go, well,

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_04]: well, your judgment is clouded because you have a crush on him.

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And if he had not said that, they wouldn't have they wouldn't feel as strongly about it.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It's the same problem Quinn has that Joseph has that they all seem to have is that they none of them keep their mouths shut.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Daniel Reyes told you over 20 years ago.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Closed eyes open. Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing when like my friends are trying to pick a pick a place

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: to go eat and I'm like, it would be great to go to the dog friendly place.

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I just think their food's amazing.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, Asia, we know you want to bring pepper and cinnamon. Like, that's what it is.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's no secret. No, however, chemo tries to spin it.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's always going to be present because they know how googly eyed he is over Tucker.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Angela, if you if you recall, I can get on the bottom had gone up to the four points as I call them to beg to be in their alliance.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_04]: She is going to go to Tucker during the day in the bathroom and Tucker's like, hey, so I'm working on bringing you in.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, oh, no, don't do. I'm sorry.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_04]: That was so embarrassing. I can't believe I did that.

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that was just you don't need to bring me into things.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, no, no, no, I totally I want to like like I want to make something happen.

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, no, no, that's not.

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: It's fine. And she goes on to tell him about how in week one she was approached with this collective alliance

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_04]: that she knows is fake, knows was fake, which is funny because Tucker has been told.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is very easy to forget. Tucker has been told about the collective.

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Joseph told him about the collective when they met upstairs.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he doesn't act like he knows about it.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But but this does not seem to ring any alarm bells in Tucker.

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't go talk about the collective. I think he car.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think this might actually be a case where he forgot.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But but that's what that happens.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: All right. You forget Angela is is walking about the house because because of because of this week, because of last week,

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like she's becoming such a nonentity that maybe Tucker just was like he I know he we have the people on Twitter

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: calling it the Mother Tucker Alliance.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that they have this loyalty to each other.

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Tucker just sees it as like this is this is a person like a number.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not like, oh, I'm going to go to Angela to weigh out options or it's not like he sees her as like an asset.

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he just sees like no one else wants to work with her.

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, like I I'm going to seize the opportunity.

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just like I want to see what happens with Angela next week if maybe she's not on the block.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, what is she still going to be a nonentity in the house?

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just someone who's trying to figure out what's going on.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone who's rolling her eyes as people walk through rooms.

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: She she rolled her eyes at Quinn because he was like walking funny in the house.

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just a trend. That's just what she does at this point.

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Lisa now Quinn don't walk funny around Angela.

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just want to know where she lands in this house.

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Nowhere, nowhere.

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_04]: She's she needs to wait another month or so and then, you know, then hope that the cops aren't physical in the end.

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. So she does right after the conversation with Tucker talk to Brooklyn and pitch that they should work together.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And then Brooklyn immediately is like, oh, yes.

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And then right after tells Quinn like Angela came up to me.

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Can you believe it? She's like, Quinn, this is how the alliance works.

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_04]: We tell each other everything, everything, every little thing.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And and she later says to Cedric, she's like, listen, nobody knows.

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_04]: All we need to do is stick together until the eight and we are golden.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_04]: No one knows about the Pentagon.

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone except for Angela and Tucker and Rubina knows about the exactly.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, you know what?

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not fair.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Leah and Leah and MJ don't know either.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think I feel like it's fair, I think, because they both recognize that they're not in alliances.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: They can recognize that something has to be happening with the people that they aren't talking game with.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, so like so here here's what here's what's happened.

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. The Pentagon is five people.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_04]: There's 13 players total.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: She thinks there's five loyal players and nobody else knows about the reality is there's four loyal players, one of whom is very not loyal.

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So already the ratio goes wild.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Then in addition to that, Joseph T Corp and chemo all fully know about the Pentagon.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's three additional people.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And then they've also heavily hinted at Tucker that four of those people, the four loyal people are in an alliance.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So Tucker also has a should have a good idea.

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So basically four people outside of their four people know about their four people and one of their five people is betraying them.

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And so more people know about it and are against the Pentagon and are in the Pentagon and loyal to the Pentagon.

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And the people in the Pentagon don't know that anybody else knows about that.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Everybody wants to be the cookout and make it make it to the final number of people with their entire alliance.

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's hard to do, guys.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Look around. It's not going to happen.

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. All right.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Anything else?

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Are we not going to talk about T for tea?

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We had this lovely during the all the two on ones.

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam comes in and yeah, they Timo wants information from Cam about who he has a passive crush on because it's not active.

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He has a passive crush, meaning he thinks this person is attractive, but he's not going to act on it.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, Joseph thinks that's a great Joseph happens to come in.

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He like thinks that's a great way to describe it.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm only going to tell you if you tell me you're two pieces of tea.

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So just like. What are we doing here?

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is this is what's funny is because Joseph, I forgot to mention this as well.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Joseph is still going on about, hey, let's keep Cam and Leah in the house together because they will continue to be a target.

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is one of those moments where you're reminded that Joseph is occasionally like two weeks behind information

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: because Cam and Leah haven't been a thing for a while now.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: In fact, so much so to the point that it's now starting to be more and Chelsea.

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Wouldn't wouldn't you know?

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And so, yes, there's a little bit of a little bit of talk.

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I mean, the chemo did he was like, OK, I won't say any names that there's somebody that has a crush on you.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say Spider-Man was a really good movie.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's trying to say MJ has a crush on Cam.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So Cam returns at his passive crush, which I they all whispered it when it's just like, come on, you're on the live feed.

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So who are you whispering it for? But it's Chelsea.

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And then their information back was that Chelsea has a crush on Cam.

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, did y'all talk to Chelsea about that crush?

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, oh, no. He's like, did I have the same conversation?

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if any of these going to happen there because we're at the point of saying crush and Cam even said crush is intense.

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like to say crush, that's intense.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What in what world?

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: We're not. Yeah, we're now talking passive versus active like I swear.

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Are we 12? It's literally like, who do you like?

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. But do you like like them?

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like like is too serious.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I can't. I only like Chelsea.

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like like Chelsea. Oh, gosh.

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yeah, he whatever this was just showed me that Cam and Chelsea are not going to become a thing because any serious showman says we've had have not been a crush is a strong word.

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So if anything is just going to be maybe they may turn into some light flirting.

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think the showman is on the horizon.

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the thing is, if they do become a showman, Chelsea's going to be eating a lot of crow for what she was saying to the cameras.

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought Cam was attractive, but he's so unattractive.

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_04]: He's so dirty.

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_04]: He's this and that like when he thought when she thought he was interested in Leah.

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And then if if she if she changes her tune when he now has a passive crush on her, she will probably feel a bit of that.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's what it is like because she had the initial crush and then she thought he liked someone else.

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, that immediately made him unattractive.

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But then if he turns around and is like, no, I actually have a passive crush on you.

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, OK. Never mind.

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_04]: First, first. Oh, you have a pat. OK.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to have to start watching.

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was confused to.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know you all were confused and either was an update or a roundtable or something about this.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You say he doesn't rush, wash his crocs or washes cracks.

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was cracks, but I don't recall this conversation.

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It was somewhere.

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It was somewhere I was watching it on YouTube.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: One of these things sounds like a slop conversation.

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It does. I think I remember you talking about it, Darren.

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, I honestly can't remember, but I know because I was like, I was confused, too.

[01:11:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It was crocs or cracks. But yeah, I I don't think this is going anywhere.

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And I also think the MJ information was irrelevant because Cam didn't seem he's just like, oh, OK.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But come on, guys, everybody's adults here.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: All right. Well, I I believe then that is what we have for you today.

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Unless there was anything else, Asia.

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say with everything going on in this house and all of the different loyalties,

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to give a shout out to Delphica Johnson on Twitter because her alliance maps are great.

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I swear it like it just paints a clear picture and just to keep things in line.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So she regularly posts them on Twitter.

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you have not gone and check those out, it's really helpful.

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And just knowing where everybody lies because I'm still trying to keep track of what's what and who's who in this house.

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So but that's it. All right. Well, that is what we have for you then today.

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all so much for joining us.

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I will, of course, be back tomorrow morning at 11 a.m. or sorry, noon Eastern to update everything that happens today

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_04]: on the Big Brother 26 life is including if a flip, I guess if you'll I guess you'll know if the flip happens.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'll be able to tell you how it happened. Yes, it does.

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But then also who wins the following H.O.H. in a competition that will actually matter because they'll actually have the power to do things.

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably because we'll also find out about a twist tonight.

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So stay tuned for that.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_04]: But it will be noon Eastern tomorrow because we will be talking with the latest of the house for our next interview.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So tune in for that. And then, of course, we'll have the Q&A tomorrow as well.

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So tune in for all of it. I will be live on Twitch tonight watching the episode.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_04]: There might be a flip. The arena competition matters.

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_04]: There's plenty to react to, including we will find out probably what the twist actually is.

[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So make sure you're watching along on Twitch with me so that you can see the reactions and chat with people in the chat.

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Great, great, great fun over there. Asia, what do you got going on?

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I recently joined Chappelle and Mari over on Recap Kitback to talk about divorce in the black.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So that should be dropping soon. So keep a lookout for that.

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Just make sure you go subscribe to the Recap Kitback YouTube channel.

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, to keep up with what I'm doing, you can follow me at Asia Like Asia on all social media.

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's A-Y-S-H-A like A-S-I-A.

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_04]: All right. And there's also a new patron event tonight at six that I guess there's a Zoom link in your Patreon accounts

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: to jump on a call with with Rob. Oh boy.

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So check that out if you are a patron or if you want to become a patron and join.

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: There you go. All right. That's what we have for you.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all so much for joining us here today.

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And I will see all of you next time.