BB26 Thurs Recap: Hisam Analyzes the BB26 Cast, Ep 18

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Coming to you live from my apartment! It's Rob! Has a podcast and now here's the guy who just wants to quickly shout out

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Tucker says, hi Ziggy. You're a good boy. You're a good boy

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm Rob Cesternino. Hello everybody welcome back to Rob's podcast here back on Thursday night eviction night

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And we've got a really good one here for you back with a man who's so strong he breaks his computer routinely

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's Taren Armstrong. Taren, how are you?

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Rob, you know, I'm happy to be here, but just because you get to pick who's on the podcast doesn't mean you get to pick what show we're talking about

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what do you want to do? There's some other stuff on right now like the DNC is happening

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You wanna recap that?

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there things we can be talking about?

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Wouldn't be a bad week. Yeah. All right. Well we are so blessed here tonight

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You hear him already

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: One of my personal faves is back with us. Hi some, hi some how are you?

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, hey, hey, I'm doing great a couple of things first. I brought my shakutri plate. Yes

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That's my shakutri plate

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's an important week and you can't let good cheese go bad

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And also I am an expert in body language

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll be paying a lot of attention to what you guys are doing

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, are you trained by the CIA by any chance?

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Naturally, of course I would be yes. Okay. Well, I'm so excited to

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_04]: This I think is a really great night to any night would be a great night to have you here

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think especially right now as this house has just

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Devolved into this cult of personality. I would love to get your

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Breakdown of everything that's going on. We'll take your questions

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll talk about everything that's going on at this hour

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Brooklyn ends up going home after the longest AI arena yet

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that maybe they were just gonna have to have a mercy rule and everybody was gonna

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_04]: They were gonna vote for one of the three

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Just everybody come on it. It was just showing this straight

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: It seems like where was this AI arena for me

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I would have killed this AI arena. I was like man. I was a season too early

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Season too early. Maybe they saw you go out. They said all right. We need to give these comp and threats

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Chance to stick around a little bit longer

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, we've got a busy day on Friday. We'll talk with Brooklyn

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Taran and I will have our exit in interview with Brooklyn and then we will have for the patrons our Q&A at 3 p.m

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: After a Taran and pooh yeah break down everything that happens overnight, but hi some what's new?

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_02]: What's new I went back to work

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm now doing some mental health related stuff on my Instagram and I'm also talking about big brother from a psychological standpoint

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, okay

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we have loved what you have put out already this season

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_04]: We'd love to talk about that a little bit more in depth with you here tonight also Taran

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: thank you for holding it down while I was away at the podcast movement in

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: DC and

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Excited to be back to talk about where we're at right now in this very crazy season

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, all right

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi some

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I would love to just get your you're a year out of the house and I've been watching this

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: What was your experience watching big brother before you played?

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So I would watch seasons after they were done in their entirety so that I could just like knock it out

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So I wasn't necessarily always watching every moment at every hour

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But now I am like totally invested like Angela made me totally invested once I saw that meltdown

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like oh my god. This is like like psychiatric gold

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's one way to put it hi some

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you intentionally antagonizing her so that she'll do a slow clap for you by eating the charcuterie

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I shouldn't have eaten my charcuterie board stuff. I know I know that poor lady like so hung like hungry and deprived

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: She just had an emotional meltdown

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Over cheese

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_04]: She was a half-knotted wasn't either how long could that charcuterie board stick around for heisem

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean like the truth is it's probably not very long

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But I would have checked the expiration date but the truth is it's like only a few days

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, it's like three or five days before she can eat again and she's like it won't even last

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It won't even last that long. We have to eat it right now and in front of you

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I love how like in the beginning of the summer like there are things that like sure the charcuterie board like means nothing to us like on

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_04]: July

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_04]: 16th and then it's gonna like by by a month from now. It's gonna be a thing you'll know it

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So one of the very fun things about big brother. All right, so hi some can you talk to us about?

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's been a couple days since I've been on the podcast

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But I just feel like that the the cult of Tucker just in the couple of days that I've been away from the podcast

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Has has ratcheted up a lot in the last

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's just because now this was the first okay

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Now he was in power for a week now that we had like sort of like Tucker the underdog

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That okay, everybody was trying to get him and they couldn't get him

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: but now he was at the top of the food chain for a week and

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Things have just kind of gone sideways

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean I think what the AI twist has done is that it allowed Tucker to be even more fearless

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_02]: than he previously was and that fearlessness is really attractive

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's usually associated with like charisma and power and leadership

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Which I think is why there are a lot of people who are maybe not as strong who find him really

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Attractive and he's also conventionally attractive, right?

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So you put these two things together and all of a sudden like he has a harem of people to choose from

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is for chemo who has unrequited love for like but you know, this is a story of every gay man

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think that's what we're probably seeing is how like

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Fearlessness turns into charisma and charisma turns it to attraction. Yeah, it's just been so fascinating to watch this because you know

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: That he combines, you know, so many

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Different like facets of like past Big Brother house

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that the Zach Rantz comparison of sort of like the unpredictable sort of like off the wall

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Nature but now we're also and and then the comp beast part of it

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: But also like now we're starting to get into like a little bit of like the Paul territory of

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: sort of like having like these people with this like

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Extreme loyalty to him

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But then also the fact that he has these people who have like this romantic interest in him like all in one person

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean to be fair his main romance partner

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Was about to flip this vote against his will and blindside him if if the wrong person had won the AI arena competition tonight

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But but yes

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That does not negate. Yeah, the fact that he has quite an army

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, can you set up a little bit of like what almost could have happened tonight had

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Had Brooklyn won the AI arena

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so T corn chemo as they

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: tend to do

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_03]: We're procrastinating all week long on flipping this vote

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And so at the very last moment

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_03]: They they've had Rubina mostly on board for a while Rubina tried as we saw in the episode to convince Tucker

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker said no she said well, let's talk to the group tomorrow

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: They had a group conversation this morning where they barely brought it up and he said no

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_03]: We're getting rid of Chelsea over cam and then they made a final four alliance

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he left and as soon as he left T cor finally spoke up to Rubino was like

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like that. We're just rolling over for Tucker

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Are we really gonna do that and Rubino's like, why didn't you just say something while we were talking to him?

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So then he came back and then Rubino was like

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_03]: core

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And T core started to say something basically was like, I'm not gonna vote for Chelsea

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's fine if everyone else does and then they named their final four alliance and then Tucker left again

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And as soon as he left again T core said, I really don't like that. We're rolling over

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And they finally at that point agreed, you know what screw it will just do it anyway

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll wait until it happens and then he'll just have to get over it

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And so then they went around and they started collecting votes and man, they had them

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it would be like the ask permission like ask forgiveness thing, right?

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It was as permission get a no three times

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Then do it anyway and then ask for forgiveness. That's exactly right. So classic

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_04]: What a confrontation though we had after Brooklyn comes back into the house

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_04]: having lost the AI arena to go back and forth and you know, I really loved seeing that fight from Brooklyn

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Who wasn't just going to lay down and die. I feel like that we really saw

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Heism this was somebody who was really fighting to stay

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Which I admire

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_02]: No, of course

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I always admire people are trying to fight to stay in the game

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I I tried to fight to stay in the game too, but when the votes are already decided the votes aren't

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like I don't know. I think there's only a few people who could pull that off at the very end like Dan

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean that was kind of the thing though is that there actually was also talked today about

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we do this for Brooklyn too?

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: They they had the votes to keep Brooklyn as well as we saw with Chelsea T. Corquimo Rubina and

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn and maybe even MJ who suggested it earlier today

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they had the votes to keep Brooklyn

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: They kind of wanted to it was just that they had made such little progress on Chelsea that Brooklyn seemed like even like too far a

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Bridge to to cross and so

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, there was maybe a chance and she went straight to T. Corquimo

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It would have been down to them

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: But in that moment, they just they stonewall there. It was not enough. Why wouldn't they do it Taren?

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Why were they willing to do it for Chelsea enough for Brooklyn?

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was just they hadn't prepped it enough. They hadn't like they they were like we're willing to do this for Chelsea and piss Tucker off

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Are we willing to do it with Brooklyn who is even bigger a target?

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Who is now standing up there saying?

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to target Tucker

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas like their argument for Chelsea was like he she might not come after you right away

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone knows that Brooklyn's coming after Tucker. She's saying it to everyone

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: She's making it clear that anyone that votes for her is declaring war on Tucker

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It's harder to it's harder to do especially in the moment if you haven't prepped it

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know he only like it's it's very hard to get him out of the house

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But like in terms of like the power that he has to get you out like if people flip the vote against him

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean isn't at that point sort of like the emperor has no clothes of like he can't be the HOH next week

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_04]: What is he gonna do like what I mean what numbers does he ultimately have to get you with?

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he has no clothes

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But he's still an emperor. Mm-hmm

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And so opportunistic people might say this is a chance for me to get in cozy with the naked emperor right now

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And I like him back up to power when he survives his off week

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I'll be with him and I'll be

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Influencing him and using him as a weapon

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And so a player like this who has the ability to win comps like he does

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_03]: They will always have the ability to bounce back and pick up allies because they provide so much value to those allies

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, hi, so could you talk a little bit about your feelings about the AI arena and how you feel like it has been as an overall

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_04]: twist this summer I

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Love the AI arena and specifically because I would have benefited from it

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Selfishly I love the AI arena

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I think what it is doing is making Thursdays really interesting because there's a lot of conversation

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That's now happening and and what I like about the conversation that's happening is like after veto

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: There's like three days before you're evicted

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And most of the time like that just becomes kind of dead time or time that you're talking about

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: What's gonna happen next week and so because the votes are already decided but now

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You know you can watch, you know 48 hours of t-core and chemo

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: thinking about things and thinking about them again and and going over and over and over

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: With the same ideas like but what I love about the AI arena is that it really does say like I am targeting you

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Right and if you come back you have a very clear target of who you're going after

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And I love that new dynamic

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: As opposed to the hiding behind the house or not saying where your boat's gonna be so I love this

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it should go on any longer

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But for the first five weeks

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe six I think it makes sense, but you know, I think we're getting to the point where it's like yeah

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But turn I don't see any signs of it stopping

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Me neither

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think I said a few weeks ago like I would I wouldn't be surprised if it went eight weeks

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And that that wouldn't be too far off either if we know there was no jury announced yet

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It still might be but we may also have like last year a seven-person jury

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Which would mean at least two more evictions which means at least two more AI arenas I would imagine

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I would expect probably two more

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Including the one

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's you know still been delivering

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That even you know tonight we had another like emotional

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Eviction where really came down to the wire where that there could have been this potential

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Vote flip like I think that certainly like it has its flaws, but they're also like getting a lot out of it

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's working. It's working really well

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that I do think there may be a little bit lucky in that the comp beast

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That is winning and that is unavictable because of the twist is Tucker and not say cam

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a different season if cam is running the show right

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: but

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's it's really working in a huge part of it is that we just saw an entire

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Vote flip a showman's turning on her showman's

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Temporarily in order to get what she wants all for a vote that never even happened anyway

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but we still had that stuff

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_03]: They still had to talk about it and we went into a Thursday night eviction

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Having no idea which of the three people would leave

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's really exciting and I think last week was even more exciting

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I think it's it's really working for this season

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi, so your analysis of the house guests

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_04]: The ones that I've seen have been

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Really interesting. I would love to you know just

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Ask you about some of the like

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Analysis

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: analyses that you've been able to make of some of these house guests that you could share with us

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that what was helpful when I went through the process is I got to know what were the psychological

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Battery of tests that were given and because I'm familiar with those tests

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm able to basically decide like oh

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: This is how they're putting people together and specifically they're demonstrating like extremes, right?

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So a good example of this is like Angela is like high neuroticism like so she gets very anxious

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: She gets very impulsive. She's very emotional. She has lots of mood swings all associated with like anxiety driven behavior

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And on the other end you have cam which everyone basically is like oh

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He's so boring to watch but he's just not fazed by like the anxiety and the paranoia in the house

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He's just so chill and I would imagine he's just a very low neurotic person

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they come from the fact that he's been playing competitive sports for a really long time

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And because of that like this doesn't sort of phase him

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So what I'm fascinated about is like just looking at how those dynamics are being put into the game

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And why certain people will work with each other and why certain people won't

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is why everyone's having a hard time working with cam because he's just not paranoid or suspicious or anxious

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Even to the point where he's like I don't even need to talk to anyone

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Tucker says I'm good. I'm good

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Have there been any pairings that you've seen that have surprised you

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_02]: No

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, no there haven't been any pairings where I'm like oh, that's weird. Why are those two people working together?

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I think T core and chemo working together

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: What's interesting is that T core is making so chemo is really high in sort of like agreeableness, right?

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: He like really is polite. He's like really collaborative

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He's trying he gets very emotional when you hurt somebody and T core is like very conscientious

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it takes her a very long time to decide anything

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: She like cares about personal relationships, which is why she's like why are we rolling over for Tucker?

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is her exact opposite, right?

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So the T core and relationship that she has with Tucker is like she will always be an antithesis to Tucker

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So I love T core for that reason and what's interesting is that chemo sometimes helps T core be a little bit more agreeable and

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_02]: T core helps chemo be a little bit more conscientious and they spend so much time together

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That like they are they are becoming sort of an interesting unit as they sort of move through this house

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Where people are like, oh, they're the polite agreeable thoughtful people, right?

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So they become the middle of the house because every all the other craziness is on the other side

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So they are like the nice balance, which is why they're in the middle. Yeah

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Compared to the Tucker's and the Angelo's run the other end of that spectrum

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Right and even Brooklyn and Chelsea and the other I'm Brooklyn is like if she could burn the house down

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: She would have

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean but I like you need people like Brooklyn and people like Chelsea on the other side to balance out

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Angela and Tucker you have to have them and so my my fear is is that as

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: People are like more like we love Tucker that we're gonna lose some of this

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: antithesis

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Energy and then it will shift everything over right so everyone will move over so like after you lose this group

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone will sort of like have to

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Redecide where they are as far as like personalities go, right?

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But you'll always have extremes like Tucker and Angela in the show. Oh, yeah, I thought that T-Core had

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_04]: This really great moment in

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Ultimately like it ends up being sort of like all for naught because the vote flip doesn't go through but just you know

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_04]: He has the power

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_04]: We have the votes

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Just like I mean that that was just such a beautiful

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's the epitome of big brother

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It is it is and and the reason why it doesn't often happen is because normally like if your ally is in power

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's it's a hard argument to make to your ally who'd won the power is in the vulnerable position

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Now who can't compete next week who's taking a lot of heat putting blood on their hands

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Protecting you going after people

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You know pushing forward the alliance to then be like but also you should do what we want

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's a hard sell

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But it is the reality of the game

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And if you want to you can move in that direction

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a matter of whether it's worth it to you if you are able to sell that to the HOH

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And as we saw they weren't able to sell it, but they were able to take they were willing to take it anyway

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi, some would you be able to work with Tucker in the house? What would that relationship look like I?

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We had a Tucker. He just evicted himself, right? Like we had Luke Luke was Tucker

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting yeah Luke was a loose cannon very loose and very loose cannon

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and yeah, that's so loose he got evicted right he blooms all up, right?

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the thing that was interesting about him is that if you told him straight to your his face

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're being off-putting he could get better and and he could listen

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just that he couldn't stop talking

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: What was that force in our house and if you look at sort of the beginning like on the live feeds

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_02]: He is he is running rampant in that house like everyone. He's saying things everyone is like he's so off-putting

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_02]: He's sort of like really just taking impulsive risks saying crazy things

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And then it was so off putting people wanted him evicted. Yeah, right, but could you which is how?

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker was at the beginning right so, you know my feeling is is that it requires a lot of

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Corralling like yes, you're right. Yeah, you're absolutely right

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But also like you have to be a little empathic to the other people around you

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And and I think that Joseph has been able to do that with Tucker, right?

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like which is strange because Joseph is not an empathic person

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he doesn't resonate in empathy, right, but he's been able to work with Tucker in the sense that it's very

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Like for whatever reason Tucker trusts Joseph and Joseph obviously trust up. Yeah

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Taryn you've talked about this on the updates that Joseph seems to be the one person who's a little bit of the Tucker whisperer

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He is I think that like, you know in Brooklyn kind of said it like she was gonna be loyal to the person that got to her first

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_03]: and she promised first and

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph came into the game

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Wanting a Tucker he initially tried with Matt didn't work and quickly went quickly pivoted to Tucker in week one

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That he was one of the first people to express a desire to work with Tucker

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And then as it became clear that Tucker was actually gonna be a valuable player

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He started working much harder, but he was in there early

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_03]: He was the first person to tell Tucker about the collective

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He was the first person to bring a lot of stuff to Tucker. And so I think that really goes a long way

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: and

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And and because of that Tucker I think feels like he owes a lot to

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph over some of the other people that he has worked with and I think he trusts Joseph more than some of the people that he has

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: has been working with and

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's why

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Like like Tucker's guard is down a little bit more with Joseph and that's why he's able to get in there

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Even though Joseph hasn't always been up front hasn't always had Tucker's best interests in mind

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that Tucker has let those guards down has meant that I think Joseph found himself letting his own

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Down as well and now they're like pretty locked in

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi, so I would love to know if you have any thoughts about Quinn

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_04]: He's been such an interesting character

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_04]: This is

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Because we really have tried struggled on the outside to turn who are these different sides of Quinn that we've seen

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Who is the real Quinn? I?

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Think that the real Quinn is the person you saw after he lost the wall competition. I think that's the real Quinn

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that he is a person who has a lot of vulnerability

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he has a lot of insecurities. I think what we're seeing from him is a lot of showboating and a lot of

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's so performative that it feels inauthentic

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is why his two people that he likes the people that he would relate to T

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Koryn Kimo

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't trust him because he feels so disingenuous

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Because he's not really

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Being Quinn and the thing that I fear for Quinn once he leaves the show

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Is will he watch that back and be like that's not me?

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Right that was a caricature of me and he may have used this caricature before like this is a well-established

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_02]: caricature and I imagine in school if he was ever

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Tormented or teased or bullied that this was something he would do in order to make light of the subject because he's using humor

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: obviously to hide the pain that he's experiencing and

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: What I would say is is that there's also the emotional aspect of being in a superfan of this game

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Where I think that he's just caught in an emotional moment

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure behind the scenes production is like we need a little bit more

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And and he's more than happy to oblige because he's like I'm gonna give America what they want because I love this game

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But the real question is is is he gonna get a deep dive?

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: That's such a good question

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Idiot dude you're playing this game terribly

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But what's also interesting is that there are a lot the the Tucker versus Quinn rivalry is really interesting to me

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Because what I think is probably true is that both of them have

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Similar stories and that they're maybe too similar that they find the other one too

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_02]: They find it threatening right and in a way of being like I see my vulnerability is in you and therefore I am like you are my enemy

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's something like that Tucker has kind of talked about it's obviously something that Quinn has kind of talked about like

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Frickin Tucker. He's just good at everything everything that I do. He's better at it

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a better person than me. He's a better competitor than me

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_03]: He's better at this show that I love than me

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And like that's annoying and Tucker also is like when when Tucker was first start starting to talk about Quinn

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: He talked about like yeah, you know when we're running

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I can tell that he like really tries hard to keep up with me

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and I sometimes just let him beat me because

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_03]: You know I like he like he relishes in it

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He relishes in the fact that he knows he's better than Quinn at a lot of these things

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he also has the competitive gene

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I think maybe part of it too when he found out that Quinn had this secret power and actually was in more things than him

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It was actually maybe doing a little bit better than him in the game. He was like whoa

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We need to stop that and now that Quinn is like firmly at a lower tier in the game than than him

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He's not he's not as much of an issue. He's not as much of a threat

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And so

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I do think they have this competitive streak and they also have this performative streak

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_03]: They also they both want to make a good show. I think that's a huge part of it for Quinn

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that it's definitely, you know

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And we've talked about this before but like definitely hide like a way to mask the vulnerability

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's also I think like

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: The way that he goes about it is because he loves the show and he wants to put on a good show

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that he thinks that this is the best way to do that

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And um and and you can understand why he might think that but I think he what he's missing is that

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh vulnerability and that authenticity that I think most viewers are often looking for

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which which will make him hard sell to win America's favorite player or America to give him any special powers or abilities

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He's America's least favorite player. Well, yeah, I mean

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean what will turn this all around is if he gets in the showman's because america loves showman

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's open

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean and the thing is is that like he also has the heartbreak of learning that lia doesn't like him

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_02]: in that way not only physically but as a person

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that what we're seeing from quinn is like the more that we see him

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: feel like

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Not good enough the more performative he even he gets even more performative

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We see even more of it and it's even more off-putting which is why

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Why it's hard to watch him

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Right because we just can't connect to him right because it feels disingenuous and it reminds me a lot of

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: From my season cori, which is why cori and I had a very hard time connecting because it felt disingenuous

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't feel like it was coming from a true honest place

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And and it doesn't surprise me that quinn is a fan of cori's right because of this type of behavior

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_04]: To go back to talker for a minute

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you feel like

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_04]: talker is on a trajectory that he is headed towards the end of this game because I

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Was not feeling that way and and these last couple days has really started for me is started to

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_04]: See a different outcome of like oh wait

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: He could do this

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he totally could it's you know what I think is

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting about big brother is that if you watch big brother and you're familiar with all 25 seasons

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a certain way of playing this game

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a certain way of making moves and a certain strategy that people use and certain things that people do

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I think what makes talker interesting is that he's disruptive to all of that

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Like and and because he doesn't care about winning the money

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That it does not incentivize him to make different choices

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And because he's not incentivized by the money. He's incentivized by the experience

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He wants to have as much fun as he can

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: In the little as little amount of time as possible, right?

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_02]: But what it has happened

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that like people are like, oh, yeah, we do love

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Like warby parker because glasses are cheap and we don't have to go to lens crafters like he's that type of

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: phenomenon, right? He's so disruptive that people could be like

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, keep this guy around. This is actually super fun

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's done a lot in the game to help a lot of people, right? Like he's helped angela. He's helped quinn

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like been like all volunteered to be on the block

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's done all of this stuff now the one thing that

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_02]: We have to keep in mind is that even when you do good things for people

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_02]: They quickly forget those things like that's just human phenomenon human nature

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, especially in a competitive environment

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So will they all remember? I don't know but could could he make it to the end with his new found harem? Yeah

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Taren as far as the audience perspective goes that do you feel like that

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_04]: for for tucker

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: That in his story

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Did he need to kind of die the hero or does he end up staying in the house long enough that he becomes the villain of the season?

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's fine. I think he's fine because

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I think production loves him and I think that that's a huge factor in how the audience responds to you

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, how much does production like you?

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, they are in charge of the edit the edit is largely in charge of how the general population feels about players

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so for that reason alone, I think he's probably fine

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But in addition to that he has another a few other key factors

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a showman's people love showman's is he's winning competitions people tend to like winners

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: and uh

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And he has this authenticity about him that you know, and again, like he is performative

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But in a more authentic way it feels like even when you don't like it even when you disagree with him

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It still feels authentically tucker

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: um and

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And with all of that said it's not like he has people falling over themselves to play the game for him

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_03]: He does still have his showman's t-core chemo trying to flip votes on him. I think he will remain a

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_03]: relatively scrappy looking underdog to the

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_03]: To the casual audience uh for for a long time yet

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that uh, I think that he's in it for the long haul when it comes to

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Being a favorite. He's also he's also conventionally attractive. Yes, right?

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean he is also like, you know, he has a modeling career prior to this and

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: in

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And that alone right the the beauty principle alone is enough to basically which is why matt was found so threatening at the beginning

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, but tucker what he's done differently is that he's just more social, right?

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: He's more accepting of other people, right like unless you're lisa and

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's just found a way of doing that right like that that matt

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[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi, so i'd love if you could speak to the

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Psychology of the house guests in terms of like so brooklyn comes in from losing the ai comp and

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_04]: She gives like a really great

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Speech as far as like us at home are concerned

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_04]: That is like wow, okay. She's she's really doing it. She's making a lot of good points

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_04]: That you got you got to keep her but i feel like that that type of speech

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Seems to not have any impact on

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_04]: The house guests is there a different way that somebody like brooklyn could frame

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_04]: That argument in that short amount of time that would do that would have better results

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, i think it's too late

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Right to be honest i think it's too late and the reason it's too late

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that brooklyn has been fighting the whole time?

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and for people who are

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_02]: For people who are intimidated by that like people who had been socially

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Like on the outs like when joseph talks about like not being picked up for kickball and

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He talks about never being around when he's kind of a loner. This is going to be very threatening

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Right this fight keep me in this game. I'm gonna do this i'm gonna do that

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just too threatening for someone of that personality

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Unless she can make a really strong strategic argument which she can't make against tucker, right by the time she comes in

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: There's the house has decided right like if she the house has made up their mind

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So i know that she's making this very impassioned fight speech and she has to do that for her

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Right so that she knows that she did everything to fight to stay in the game

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But is it going to sway minds?

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Not in front of tucker

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Standing right over her shoulder being like. Mm-hmm. Like it's just too

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Much of a stretch for people to basically be like

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I even if they wanted to right like the fact that tucker has been he's like literally gotten rid of cedric

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He's literally gotten rid of lisa and these are the people he says he wants out brooklyn will be the next one to go

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And if he sets his sights on you there's a very big threat that you could be that person

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and nobody's gonna stick their neck out for for brooklyn and and the work is what chelsea did

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Right what chelsea did is that she went to everybody and was like

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, listen i fucked up and we're friends

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_02]: We can move past this and it's called tend and befriend right so there's either fight or fight

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what what tend and befriend so

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02]: brooklyn did fight and flight right like fight fight fight like push other people under the bus like do everything you can to stay

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And she does that because she's a competitive person. She has to do that. It's in her nature where someone like

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: chelsea is like oh tend and befriend so she's going to everyone and having personal conversations

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And you can hear it in this episode where she's like talking to joseph

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And then are talking to quinn and then in the diarum. She's like, oh

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Why do I have to even ask this person for their vote like what this is so lame right like and you see her doing the work of

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Reestablishing personal connections and that is what's going to keep you in the game

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's what chelsea does and what brooklyn doesn't and unfortunately

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You know in a house like this where you have a strong dominant force

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You're they're gonna choose like the less intimidating person

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Taren after tend and befriend from chelsea. What are her prospects coming out of this week?

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: They're not

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_03]: terrible

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Because so basically we've talked about this all season that the house structure is so

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Fluid and then the collective plus the pentagon seemed like the structure that was going to take over

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_03]: until

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_03]: T corn chemo dismantled the whole thing last week and tucker won the hoh and then tucker remade the house in his image

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It was sixth avenue. It was the tanks. Uh, it was this new final four alliance that he just made today the frenzy

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_03]: alliance

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And so you know, he's got a bunch of final twos now

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_03]: He's talked about pulling an mj and leah tucker could be the new structure except

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: His core power base the foundation of his entire structure

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Is built on rubina t core and chemo who all just tried to flip the vote on him and leave him in the dark about it

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_03]: so it's not exactly a solid foundation and

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_03]: What that means is that this next hoh has their own ability to upend the entire structure and create their own

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so depending on who wins you could see a variety of things happen

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_03]: There are a lot of obvious nominees for pawns people like quinn even joseph

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_03]: mj

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously angela a lot of people who might be looking to backdoor tucker if they have the option though knowing that the ai arena is coming up

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_03]: They may be too scared to

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_03]: um, but no matter what happens, uh, there's there's a lot of

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Possibility and there are a lot of people that did want to keep chelsea because they felt like they could pull her in

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So if any of those people win

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea does have the ability to potentially weasel her way back in that said

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker is going to be keeping an eye on her in the same way that angela is keeping an eye on him

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and he is not gonna let her out of his sight and he is going to be continuing to say what are we doing trusting

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea she is a snake

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And so that's going to be a big problem for her and she is like quinn going to need to neutralize that if she wants

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Any chance of reintegrating fully into the house?

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Heism you get to pick who the hoh is by the end of the night. Who is heism's choice for hoh?

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Chelsea

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that'd be fun. Chelsea. Yeah, Chelsea and the reason is i'd love to see what she did with it

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, I'd love to see what she does because her first one was not super exciting

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, it wasn't interesting at all

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: um

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But but she also does something really smart in this episode is that the person she talks to about

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Having a relationship is rubina first. She tells rubina

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to target you and i'm not going to target target Tucker

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, she doesn't that conversation happens first

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a really important conversation to have because rubina is really close to Tucker and will share that information

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Right and what you do is you get the benefit of the goodwill of rubina sharing that information

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Which makes you feel less threatening

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I would love to see what chelsea did because she might decide like she's like

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, i'm gonna blow everything up or she might decide to be like no

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get one of these sneaky people who got rid of the pentagon out and I'd be curious to see what she did

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Also that domino that has not fallen still is the ai instigator

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Taryn they're allegedly the ai instigator at some point. We're gonna find out who it is

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_04]: What it does

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_03]: soon

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and honestly there's a chance it's not tucker given that it lasted all week

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and I felt like they advertised it like they didn't advertise it much at all during the episodes

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, there could be some really dedicated online fans that like had some influence on this vote

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But um, who would it go to t-core?

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I you know, I've honestly I've seen a lot of joseph. I don't know how how prevalent that is

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think a lot of people felt like joseph would be fun as the instigator

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But uh, but who knows?

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_03]: What i'm saying is it's probably tucker, but there's a chance it's not

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh given given the parameters of this vote

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, does any of it matter? Probably not

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, it was eviction night. We did see the house guess go to vote

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Chelsea ends up being the one vote to evict cam

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_04]: The thing that I thought was very interesting was the people going into the

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh diary room heisam to go give shout outs

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_04]: For tucker, I I think I heard it was mj first and she was talking about something for tucker

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like is there another does she know another tucker?

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was this tucker. Well, I guess he was h o h. He couldn't vote

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was having them deliver shout outs to a dog

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I you know I yeah um, you know how I feel about shout outs. It's just kind of like

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh come on like, you know because they just become so long

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like I'd like to think my dog my cat my like my producer like the last other person

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I just met my neighbor. It's just too much like just cast your vote and move on

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's Aaron would you give shout outs to kellis?

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Not in the voting booth. It's inappropriate as running just on the live feeds

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, listen, I have all the time in the world to talk on the live feeds like

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to be doing it on the live show when I'm voting somebody out

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It ruins the moment. It's supposed to be dramatic

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it goes a little too long and just a little too excessive and now angela is giving like a to-do list

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna say

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: wrong

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Also, I feel like she was in the middle of talking and they just like cut the mic

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh come on stop

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And joseph's been good though, uh, you know, he did the what up chen bot a week or two ago

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Then uh tonight he did the uh, who's this?

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph he gets that he gets a quick little quip in no shout outs

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_03]: That's great because like he doesn't have an emotional attachment to this this particular vote

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So he's fine like uh, this is great. Yeah last week with cedric going out

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_04]: There was not enough time for shenanigans, but uh, we definitely worked in a couple here tonight for

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Brooklyn's goodbye anything else stand out to you from the votes taren

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: um, not particularly, uh, you know

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_03]: chelsea was saying that she was willing to vote out brooklyn over cam

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, she ends up not doing that

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially again knowing that brooklyn was very clear that her intention was anti tucker

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_03]: This could be a small problem for her with

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker but tucker already has a problem with her. I don't think it's going to be a problem with anyone else

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she'll probably just say I knew the votes weren't there. I was just giving her a sympathy vote

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it'll be an issue. I don't think any of this will be an issue

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, except for with tucker who probably will have an issue when brooklyn leaves the house

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_04]: She says oh, I guess you'll never know what team my husband plays for

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Is this real taren?

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Does brooklyn have a famous husband?

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_03]: She has a husband. She's a married mother. Yeah, you know this

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I somewhere are you on the in the big brother alumni group chat? Have they got into what team does brooklyn's husband live for?

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was like a

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_02]: A gay sexuality joke like you'll never know if he's heterosexual or gay

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, what team is he playing for? Yeah

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Playing on I was like, oh, I don't know. I was like, I would guess your team

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You do have four kids with him so I would guess yours

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, oh, I know what team she he plays on like I'm ready to move on

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So I I could be wrong. I was not paying super close attention to all of uh,

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea and brooklyn's conversations. She did

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Reveal to chelsea that she was uh, that she like danced for like a sports team at one point

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And she brooklyn nets

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And and she also of course talked about being mrs. America

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And she told chelsea not to tell anybody even after she left

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so I think that this was maybe just a like a little bit of uh, like

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Of a troll job like uh, like oh, I'm gonna fake them

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna be thinking about that all season long and t4 and keema will talk about it all season long

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, uh brooklyn came out and then

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_04]: She had the high some the interview with julie was that like

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Anything that julie she told her just like, oh, yeah, I already knew that I already knew that of course

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I knew everything

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, but I don't think she really did

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: She kind of did like a lot of this info was out there. Um, you know is queen the big bad wolf of the house

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think that's a no

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I think in her eyes. Yes, right because queen basically rats out the alliance. So to her yes

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but you know, is he a good player? No, right? Like I don't think yes

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, but other people might right so

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean and honestly like the thing about brooklyn is that she knew quinn was dissatisfied with the structure of the pentagon

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_03]: um, and

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You know for as much as we talked about quinn not really maintaining some of his uh alliances

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_03]: She didn't really maintain that like she they had one conversation about how they were at the bottom of the pentagon

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It was very obvious to them. She never really checked back in with quinn like hey, how are we feeling about the pentagon?

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not telling anyone else about it. Are we like uh, like what are we going to do about it in the future?

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Like she should have been with him

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Um and making sure but I think the reason she wasn't is that she ends up getting in with chelsea

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Um and realizing that chelsea wasn't tight with cam like they kind of thought she was and that

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Turns out brooklyn was on the inside of the pentagon

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and just kind of dropped the idea with quinn stopped talking to him about it

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And so he had to go somewhere else to talk about it. Uh, and then and that's that's what ends up sinking the whole ship

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean hysa. It's amazing like uh, it's like the meme with like the one domino of like, uh, you know

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_04]: sedrick volunteers to go up on the block and then this whole pentagon ends up being completely

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_04]: blown up

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's the interesting thing about how one decision in the game can have huge ramifications

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And there are so many decisions you make in the game that sometimes you don't realize how this decision will impact everything else

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, I think you know sedrick I think was pretty fearless like when he went on the block

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think his ego got the best of him and that that's sort of the undoing of this whole group

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think all of them were a little bit in a position of

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: We're fine

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_02]: We're running the house like nobody knows we're good

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I think anytime you have that type of hubris

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You're about to be blindsided. They were not good. Yeah. Yeah

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Tyron uh, the goodbye messages were back this week

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_03]: They were I was surprised because the ai arena took so long

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you would have figured that they just think they're probably gonna be shorter on land. I think

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she knew everything so there were nothing

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_02]: There was nothing to say to her right like she already knew everything

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So she's like can we just get to the goodbye messages like be nice? Can we just get to the end?

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, can I just say I

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I think rubina is great. I love that she was willing to

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_03]: To do what she wanted against tucker's will this week coming

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But i'm just so disappointed in rubina because she had every opportunity in the world

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_03]: To say at some point to brooklyn whether it was in the house or in the goodbye message like

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I just want you to know this was real

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And she didn't take it like come on it's right there

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was what what brooklyn said to rubina when brooklyn thought that rubina was going home last Thursday

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That was brooklyn's way of breaking the news for rubina that she was about to leave the house

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just have to know is this real?

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what we have real did taryn did julie advertise an extended interview with brooklyn

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, are we not doing that anymore? I don't recall but I imagine that they still would have I would think

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she mentioned it. It's gonna be short because she already knows everything

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_02]: She did

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_04]: That'll be good, okay

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_04]: um, I want to get uh

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Questions from the chat so if you got questions go ahead and uh fire away taryn

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Was there anything else for you that was interesting about this episode?

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so. I mean they really um, you know

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously we missed a lot. We saw a lot of the like

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Rubina and kimo are kind of like jealous of tucker's interactions with mckenzie and leah

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_03]: that was a big plot line through the week and uh, I actually think it was like

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_03]: very clever of tcore to

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know use this to help convince rubina to to do what she wanted instead of what tucker wanted

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, there's some interesting stuff happening there. Um, but uh, but otherwise. Yeah, I think uh, it was a fun episode

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, hyson the chat has been thoroughly enjoying having you here

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_04]: You consider hosting a game show

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of course like yeah, of course. I mean I need your wig back

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I I have already done one

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's not a winner. So I'm ready to do my next one

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Another five

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Kennedy wants to know uh, who's hysem's prediction for the winner of big brother 26

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think it's I think it's gonna be joseph, but I don't I'm not excited. Oh wow

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm not excited about it. I mean, yeah

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, is that why are you wearing a mustache now to support joseph?

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I yeah, I like well, you know, I've moved into my daddy vase. So the mustache helps

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna be joseph. He finds himself sort of in the middle of things

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_02]: The the thing that I think will be joseph's

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_02]: weakness is if he

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_02]: If he can actually make real true connections with people that people want to keep him, right?

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like but who knows right, but joseph

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, yeah

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You seem to love that

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_04]: You think he's the winner pick but you don't seem that excited about it

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not. I mean, I'm not that excited because I don't think he's that good of a player, right?

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's I think he's playing fine. I think he he's doing a good job navigating things, but I'm just not

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: motivated by him, right like I just

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know but it might help him like, you know, who knows right like, you know

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, yeah, well hyzer then do you have a favorite player in big brother 26?

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know from from a psychiatric standpoint or from like I meant from a personal standpoint, but I would love to hear both

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, huh? Who would you be excited to see when?

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Who would I uh, I would like to see tucker win

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and the reason I would like to see tucker win is I think it will reset the tone of how to play this game

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and it will also show like

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that sometimes

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the game has gotten a little too

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: predictable in some ways

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And this disruption is really interesting and I think it brings in a whole another level of

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: excitement

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And so watching the game I wouldn't you know if I was in the house it wouldn't be tucker, but you know like watching it

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I I I you know I have I have a sauce spot for tucker. I don't know why

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean he is like as chemo says so conventionally attractive, right?

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Another crush. Yeah another crush. Yeah. Yeah, this is tucker. I'm on the tucker train

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know like I would also love to see chelsea win. Yeah, like I'd love to see chelsea win this game

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_02]: um

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean but like in tcore I'd love there's a lot of players actually like this season which is not always the case

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you have somebody from the psychological perspective?

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, angela would be fascinating. Yeah

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Angela would be fascinating, right

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Angela would be interesting tucker would be interesting quinn would be interesting

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_02]: joseph would be interesting

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know as far as like sussing out where the behavior all comes from and they've given us clues of where that behavior

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Is coming from on the live fees in their conversations and sort of what they give in the dr

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Is like so that part has me like yeah, I'm just fascinated by that

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Brian wants to know a question. What is your favorite charcuterie board feature?

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I preferred smoked gouda with american salami

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Heism are you a charcuterie guy?

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think that charcuterie is like expensive lunchables. Yes. So I usually spend my money on other things

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a big charcuterie person either

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And also there's a lot of meat products that have pork in them and because I'm muslim. I don't eat pork

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, anything that touches those meat items. I can't have and so I'm like chicouterie is just like a no

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like this chicouterie board, which is like just cheese and crackers

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Tera, what about you?

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you sure kudori for you? I mean listen you put charcuterie in front of me. I'll eat it

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You know and hopefully not all angels. I have not but uh, yeah, I'm not usually like going out of my way

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_03]: To get charcuterie. Okay

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Deegan wants to know heism would you ever do the traders?

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I would love to do the traders. Yeah, there are certain wouldn't that be so fun, taren

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would love to do the traders right

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So there are certain games that I want to play and certain games that I don't want to play

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I would love to be a member of the pit crew right like I'd love of root Paul dragrace like I

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to do that like but yeah, I mean I think that what's what's interesting about this

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Spot is like a lot of people think like oh, I'll end up on one show and they'll end up on a whole bunch of other shows

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Or like man, it'd be great to do these other shows and I just know that that's not the case

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Like your shot is to play the game that you're on and you do the best

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Opportunity that you can on that game and if another show calls you great

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Then do that show but you know, I think what makes the best

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Gameplayers the one that plays the game they're on as opposed to thinking about the games that they could be a part of

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So to me it's kind of that's kind of how I feel about it

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if someone called me and asked me to do something I'd say yes

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But I also understand that this may have been my only shot and I'm okay with that

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right. I didn't want to go out third, but like, you know

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_04]: How about we had a lot of questions about the two hour episode

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_04]: This is one from bradley is the two hour wednesday episode. Just gonna be ai instigator shenanigans

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_04]: This is another one. Uh ll cool dubs. What's gonna be on the two hour veto episode

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So wednesday night tyron, there is a two hour big brother episode

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_04]: coming up

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Any ideas what we're doing here?

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean my guess is I feel like what usually happens with big brother is that like

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It's on so much. It's very flexible and sometimes there are holes in the schedule and it's like can we just fill a little bit here

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and they're like sure we could you know, we can extend this episode. Uh, and

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead. You know what I hope we get is a recap

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You have to have one of these guys

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a couple of weeks. I'm sorry for interrupting you so it's been a couple weeks, but a recap would be really good. Sorry. I'm like

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It would be very helpful. Yeah, yeah, it'd be really helpful. I'll let you can do. Sorry

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know if I recall from uh big brother 25

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I I do believe that when buddy games was premiering

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_04]: That we had like the two there was a two hour episode

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_04]: That I believe was uh the buddy game sort of like product placement

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So I wonder if there's another CBS launch that's coming up soon

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_04]: That we have some kind of like extended commercial

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_04]: The summit perhaps perhaps the summit, but um, I feel like that the summit is not premiering for some time

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It seems like uh ill timed to promote the summit so early

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's true. There are preview there

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Commercialing it

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think it's probably just going to be an extended regular episode

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_03]: But it doesn't like it will help that the ai instigator stuff will

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Kathy Bates show up for matlock promo

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That would be so good

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're missing

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Bring back a first boot mat and he's locked up and if the do a matlock

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Throwing ideas out here for free

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, uh, this is a question for Christina if t-core 1h oh h

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Could she backdoor talk her is that possible?

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she would want to

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: With ai arena in play

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think she will

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think that like it would obviously cost a lot. I don't think she ever wants to do it herself to begin with

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, because it would really hurt her relationship with rubina

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially to do this early. She could try to convince rubina. It's okay

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But she can't do that and still have to worry about the fact that he might win ai arena

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's gonna happen from her this early

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know the thing that I think is interesting is that for all the competitions tucker has won

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: What he has not won yet is something that's detail oriented

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like and and I would be curious to see what he does with like remembering things

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like recalling things like that because I think that he's so focused on like big stuff that the little details kind of escape him

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I would be curious to see what he would look like in a competition like that like today

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I really wonder how he would have performed today. Yeah, I had the same thought

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh, I'm really curious to know how tucker would have fared in a competition like this

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I watched them perform and I said, oh, he definitely would have beaten them

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, true

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, taren anything else bb 26 at this hour

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing more than just like I do think this is a pretty impactful potentially impactful hoh

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_03]: The hoh's don't have as much power this season because of the ai arena setup

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But there's a lot of momentum

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Shifting that comes with it because there isn't a solid structure in place right now

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_03]: There are a lot of different potential outcomes a lot of different potential nominees pawns targets

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and so uh, you know

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Largely due to the ai arena and in part due to tucker and some of the other players

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You know typically on a thursday night, I would tell you it will go it'll go this way or it'll go this way

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but there's really so many different ways that can go from here. And so, uh,

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Stay tuned. Hi, so anything in particular you're looking forward to seeing this week

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Looking forward to see this week

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_04]: In the big brother in the big brother house

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the ai instigator putting like cereal in the ice cream

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: That could be delicious. Yeah, right like this is crazy

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Right like I'm really excited to see that whole thing turn out

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll see if we get another deep fake

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I do think that uh giving like it doesn't seem especially powerful if it's just like

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Dropping deep fakes into the house

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And I do feel like that tucker would be the most insane person to have that power

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: So, uh, maybe there could be some entertainment to be mined from that

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: What if we just turned the whole week into the circle and we locked everyone into different rooms?

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And they can only communicate via the hologram

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And one person has the ability to just fake conversations via hologram. Wow. Okay

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll save that save that for the next pandemic season

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, all right

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[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_04]: We have coming up. Uh, oh, what do we got the the zaddy calendar again?

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Sam what the hell that's not what that's not what I had on my uh q cards

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, the zaddy calendar

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Check out last week. I talked to brice

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: About this year's

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yet, we know what sam was looking at. Yeah

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You're in a calendar. I didn't realize that you were also in the calendar. No, I was I was

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It was several years ago, uh, not not quite seven, but I think I was in the 2022 zaddy calendar. Hi sam

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations. Yes, and uh that I hope that

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Bryce, uh, will correct this miscarriage of justice to not have you appearing in a zaddy calendar yet

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it I'm totally fine

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Literally in your daddy phase. Yeah, I was like I'm perfect, but not for the calendar. Okay. All right

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_04]: tomorrow, of course, uh, tyron will have the live feed update at

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: 12 noon tomorrow, uh, and then at 3 p.m. Eastern will take calls from the patrons

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh patreons, you'll get the link to call in and ask your big brother questions at 3 p.m

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Eastern on the patron bbq and a then, uh, we

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Mike bloom released the top 50 vote getters

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi sam. Did you see any of this? Are you are you a survivor fan at all?

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I have just gotten started in survivor. I mean, I watch season one of survivor

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But I've been watching a lot more of it. So yeah, all right. Well that they are and they've announced survivor fifties coming up

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Just a couple of years away. Hi sam

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And they announced there are going to be returning players

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So to help survivor with their task of identifying who the fans want to see we have done a extensive poll

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: 19 000 people voted in our primaries to get it down to the top 50

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Vote getters you can cast your vote and make your voice heard go to robbins website.com slash vote

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_04]: 50 I saw an article today taren jeff prob says he started with a bulletin board

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_04]: They had like 200 names. They've got it down to smaller group of names that are still on jeff prob's bulletin board

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just like what we're doing

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I wonder where he got that idea

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you on a list or do you know?

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't know

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We that I know that who's on our our list. We don't know who's on jeff prob's bulletin board

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Would you go back if they asked you?

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi sam, it would be it would be an incredible honor. Uh, you know hard to say no to survivor 50

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Right, but there you go. Also when you're pushing 50, maybe not so likely to get the call

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't count yourself out. Yeah

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you see how many competitions hide someone? Yeah

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Until I was evicted

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You could win a good amount of competitions and then get evicted taren over on the taste makers

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_04]: What's going on with the alien they made new alien?

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: They made a new alien. It was very good

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and it's doing very well in the box office really harkening back to the uh, the og alien horror vibes

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so it was very fun. We talked about that for me

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, listen if it's listen it is definitely spooky. I mean you can literally see in this image. It's not great

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, well check out taren and grace talking about uh that and much more over on the taste makers on our scripted tv podcast

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, we know scripted tv and then we've also got oh look at this

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Bowie jane talked about below deck this week with schappell

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Good job, bowie. Bowie she's watching the feeds too now, heisam

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bowie is like invested. Yeah

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she's very she's very on top of it watching a ton of reality tv

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: So check out what bowie jane had to say about below deck and then make sure you uh

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[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Heisam, uh, this was so fun to get to catch up

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was great. Thank you guys for having me when I wasn't evicted. Yes

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well it's always a treat to get to talk to you

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Then I feel like you that you have such a unique perspective on all these house guests

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So thank you for coming on and talking with us always very much appreciated

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys so much for having me Heisam anything you want people to check out what you're doing

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I do an lgbt focused mental health

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: With channel q called therapy thursday. So if you want to check that out, that would be great

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_02]: It happens at five in the morning my time, so

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Five in the morning your time

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're watching live feeds, you could just

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: tune in

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Where do people go to see that Heisam?

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Channel q like it's a audacity channel

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So channel q cool and then you know tune into my instagram where i'm talking about sort of mental health and reality television

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And also like updating people on like what's happening in psychiatric news and answering psychiatric questions

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so tune in for that. Yeah

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Because loves his thanks for obtarium Heisam. This was 10 out of 10. Oh wow, that's amazing

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Bring Heisam back to the podcast, please

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys so much for having me it's always an honor to be with two greats. So uh, I really appreciate it

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. All right. Thank you so much Heisam and Taren. What's coming up for you?

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Find me over on twitch, uh, I had a good time watching tonight's episode

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It was very fun last week too. It's it's been fun not knowing what's gonna happen on Thursday nights

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh makes reaction to it even more

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: enjoyable so come and hang out with me over on twitch while

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll do that. We'll watch the episode together Heisam the chat's asking you what what what time do they check out your show?

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It's at five o'clock in the morning on channel q

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, another five

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Another five five o'clock right

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's at eight o'clock in the morning east and standard time, which is one in

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: errors, so

[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay. All right. Well, thank you so much for joining us

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: We'd love to see your comments here on youtube and it'll be another busy friday talking about what happens next on bb

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_04]: 26. Thank you for joining us everybody. Take care of a good one. Bye