Today, Taran and Mary Kwiatkowski recap the live feeds from day 82 of Big Brother 26.[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Big Brother looking at the stuff from yesterday
[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_03]: All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from FEO to HOA
[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Single season, you know he is the reason
[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what's happening
[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Rob said that he could do it
[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Tomorrow he will do it again
[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello everyone and good morning
[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to our Live Feed Update for October 6th
[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, Aaron Armstrong and I am here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: From the Big Brother 26 Live Feeds, it was day 82 in the house
[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And not much progress has been made
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be a little bit of a quick one here
[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But there was another conversation about the vote here at the Final Four
[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So we got that to talk about
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: We got a Final Two speech to talk about
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And with me to talk about it is Mary
[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing, Mary?
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing well, Taran
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I can't help but notice that this is a little podcast
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's so cute and little
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Are we supposed to be excited about the little podcast?
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they were not excited about the little table
[00:01:37] No
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's okay, it's fine
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know I gotta say there were a lot of people on Twitter who were mad
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That people that they're oh recruits, recruits
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't know about the little table
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little table
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to be excited about something just because traditionally in the past people were
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is opening our eyes to see that
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just a little table
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's it
[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Just a little table and a little show and a little studio lot
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That's all it is
[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about yesterday
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Because there's really not much to talk about
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course we know that Chelsea won the Final Four HOH
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And then MJ won the Final Four Vito
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And yesterday we talked about how they had a conversation about who to evict
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And it felt like MJ was leaning toward evicting Cam
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And Chelsea was leaning toward MJ evicting Rubina
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know that's obviously still happening
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But they got some games
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got two bottles of wine and backgammon
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Chinese checkers, some cards
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I personally have never learned how to play backgammon
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I've read the rules before and I still couldn't get it
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So I just moved along
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I learned how to play backgammon just by watching Ian on the feeds
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't blame them for not knowing how to play
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Initially needing to read the rule book
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I would also need to read the rule book
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But this is like I'm the kind of person when I go on like cruises or vacations
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Usually cruises when you don't have internet
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I have to like write down the rules to a bunch of card games first
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'll forget them by the time we play
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We're all sitting around being like and then how many do you draw?
[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That's like a small thing
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think people don't think about as much
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Is like I can cook fine
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But if I was in the big brother house
[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't have the ability to like read a recipe book
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Or look up recipes
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like quickly Google something
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not sure that I would take some trial and error
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: For sure
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fair, yeah
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of things that like
[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Because we've sort of offloaded our brains
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: On to our phones
[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Because why bother remembering things
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Genuinely why bother remembering things when you've got the thing right there
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But then you know
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_02]: In school they'll be telling you
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you never know when you're going to be on big brother
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to need to know these things without your phone
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they should do
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: When people ask like why is it important
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Why do I need to know this
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Why do I need to know how to do quick math
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like well because you're going to be in a tiebreaker some day
[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to ask how many seconds
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: When did something happen
[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And you need to know how to do that
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they used to say that you won't have a calculator in your pocket all the time
[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you know smart phones happen
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But you still don't have a smartphone in the big brother house
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I know
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And I can never figure out
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Like why do I need to learn how to spell things
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I might not always have a dictionary
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And if I'm on survivor maybe I need to learn how to spell someone's name
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So speaking of you know school and practicing things
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea's going to give a little bit of a practice for her final two speech
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: She talks she's basically like pacing in the backyard kind of like under her breath
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Reciting what will be or really coming up with not even reciting or practicing
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You can tell she's like developing it on the spot here
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Her final two speech which I think we know we'll have a good chance of hearing once it happens
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we don't need to go into too much detail
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But basically what she is planning to say is something along the lines of like
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey this game shifted so much this season
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: My strength was that I had to and did reevaluate every week where to go what to do
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: My lines blew up I was put on the block but it's not about how you start the game
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It's about how you finish it
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I came in here wanting planning to use the power of my words and influence to get what I want
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But I've also actually won a bunch of comps so how about that
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: My end game was about making sure people brought me to the final two
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And then she starts talking about how like some of like the big moves that she made
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: She starts with the Tucker move
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Which makes sense right like I think from her perspective her game starts with the Tucker move
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Into Quinn into Leah and then getting people to take her to the final two
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's I think that's right of her I think that focusing on that path
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Which has been the path that she has dominated is the way to go talking about like you know
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_02]: The rough start and then kind of taking control
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's great. I think anytime that you can encapsulate your whole gameplay
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That ideally covers the entire season that's good
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it is something like it started rough I needed to get you know
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to go through a lot before I could get to the place I'm at now
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I've always said the biggest thing you can do in a final jury kind of segment is
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Speech is going to be differentiating yourself from the people around you
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So the more that Chelsea can do to say something that would be different than anything
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That MJ or Cam would be able to say the better
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and I think that like you know the talk of
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: She's
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The talk of using her words and influence you know mattering more than competitions are planning to come into that
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But then also having the competition stat as well like she just obviously crushes MJ
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you know not that the speech really matters but we already know that she has the advantage coming in
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I think very clearly her speech is not going to cause her any damage here based on what we're hearing from her
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is you know not that you know not the Jag lost any votes but this is not like a Jag speech
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We're like oh boy what's happening here
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah exactly
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So she also of course talks to MJ about the vote again
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're making this decision at a glacial pace
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean they're having like one conversation a day about it
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean yes but also they have nothing else to do and think about it's not like we need to make this decision
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So we can move forward and do something else
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why you'd think that they'd have more
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we have nothing else to talk about but this vote but instead we're like just hanging out doing nothing all day
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Until finally well let's have a conversation about the vote I guess
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like from watching the conversations what I've gathered is there is something that MJ wants to do
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: She knows Chelsea's not going to be on board with it
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And so she's trying to just talk in circles to hope that Chelsea chains her mind
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Chelsea meanwhile wants MJ to keep Cam
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And is sometimes subtly sometimes not subtly just saying that
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like they both know what's happening but they're not super acknowledging it
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is that obviously it's better for Chelsea that Cam stays
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's better for MJ if Rubina stays
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Right
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_02]: But they don't want to admit that that's the case
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So they're both saying that they're the same but they have a slight preference for one over the other
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ very clearly feels like Rubina is more likely to take her to the final two than Cam
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But doesn't want to say that because then Chelsea will feel like she's taking Rubina so that she gets taken to the final two and might get suspicious or whatever
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So she keeps saying well Cam's definitely going to take you
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And so is Rubina I mean they both will
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like she very clearly feels this way
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And Chelsea in the meantime is trying to be like well they're both the same really and we did say we were going to be loyal
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And MJ is like I do want to be loyal but I also want to make history first time final three of women even though that's definitely still has happened
[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You know it's
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think if they okay let's just say if they did get to the final three with the three women and then like I know it's a very short sort of finale once they announced the winner and all that or get to the end
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But like do you think that there would be a conversation where one of them says it and then like Julie or whoever is like yeah that's happened before
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Like do you think they would actually get corrected by it on the show
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I really want this to be in the episode because it's such a disservice to the to the history of this show and the history of women on this show to not correct the record
[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And be like no, you know one of the previous most dominant women to ever play the game on top of one of the previous top comp beasts in the history of the game
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they were part of an all women final three before actually
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it would be great if they talked about this on the episode and then we did like a good old flashback to Maggie and Janelle and Yvette
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the most likely time we'd get it is actually oh no because they're not going to be at the jury round table I was going to say if like well hold on does fourth place go to the jury round table I'm trying to remember
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Fourth place will show up at the round table
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay if Rabina gets voted out fourth goes to the jury round table and says in the long lines of oh yeah we were going to make history with like the with final three women I feel like that might be a time depending on who they have there
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I'm trying to think would cam or not cam would Quinn know
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It depends who the question should know but but at the same time it's like if you're Quinn in that moment especially in a situation where it's like a I guess in the round table maybe but like
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I've experienced this before where like somebody will say something very confidently
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not I'm not the guy that like wants to jump in immediately and be like actually that's not correct
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially if it's something like that where it's like like you know what I'm gonna make sure hold on let me I'm pretty sure that's not right but I'm yeah well Maggie Yvette
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Janelle
[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure but then by the time I've confirmed to myself that it's that it's not true. It's like the moment has passed and I'm like you know what
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It would be more like someone would say something and I would just turn to the person next to me like I think that's I don't think that's right
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Not out loud to them but like to someone else or like you know like the gym from the office look at the camera like
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: More likely
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know we'll see I think honestly I think it's the episode's job, but you know it's their show it's their history they should be
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They should be making sure but yeah, especially like if it's gonna be said in any kind of speeches like you know, Rabina might say this in her final in her in her plea, you know
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, which would be so good. Yeah. Yeah, that would be so funny
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So, so they talk some more and it's it's this back and forth that we've talked about but the big thing here that starts to seemingly tip the balance is
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Is something I've been talking about this for a few days now
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That MJ in particular it fueled by Chelsea and Chelsea has also been saying these things but but MJ really seems to be on it the most
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Has been talking a lot about how only her and Chelsea deserve to be in the end
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure that a huge part of this is this sort of like self interested motivated kind of thought where you know
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They want to get to the end they want to convince each other to go to the end together they want to convince each other that the other people shouldn't even be there
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they don't want to be turned on so on and so forth but there's this notion for MJ in particular that like Cam and Rubina don't even deserve to be there
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't deserve to make any decisions. They have only one like one competition each
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what are they even doing here? What why do that? Why are they even bothering at the final four?
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Like can't they go just straight to the final both of them have to go the fact that Cam thought he could make a decision last week
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: After winning only one competition
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Like like oh my god, so there's this notion of like
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: These people are very undeserving and and shouldn't have any say and shouldn't feel good shouldn't have any kind of confidence
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And so Chelsea is able to tap into this and and use it to manipulate MJ seemingly
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Where she says oh yeah, you know what
[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing is that like Rubina's been acting like she's already in the final three and MJ is like wait excuse me
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no easier way to get under MJ's skin than just like make something up about how someone feels entitled in the same way that MJ does
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: This this really seems to get to her. She's like man how like
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she's really like in Chelsea's like yeah, yeah, she's feeling very very comfortable
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: She's feeling very much like hey we're gonna we're gonna get there
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And MJ is like why she shouldn't be feeling that way. She did how many competition says she won
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Not as many as us. I don't know why she's feeling like that
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So you know
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You know unrelated I am kind of feeling like
[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I am a really loyal person and I feel like I should probably just stay loyal
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Unrelated totally not swayed by that one thing
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, she also says I'm not unaware of this when she's told about Rubina of course
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there is something very underrated about
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Reality TV players who completely own when they don't know things
[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I understand the fear of feeling like oh, I don't want to I don't want to seem like I don't know whatever particular thing
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean the worst is exit interviews when they're given information like yeah, yeah
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I figured or like right when they come out with Julie. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wasn't a blindside like it is so much more refreshing
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you are you're going to be hated on way less actually when you come out and you're just like oh, yeah
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see that one coming. Oh man
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's so much going on that I didn't know about because then people can't hate on you as much because they're like oh at least they're
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: At least they're aware
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's a you get a different kind of hate because the thing is unfortunately I would say personally
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: There's kind of like
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Many more than two but in a very general vague sense two kinds of people
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: There's one kind of person that appreciates humility and there's another kind of person that wants people to never admit that they're wrong
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You know and and because everything that that person does must be right
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and those are the kinds of people that you pander to when you never admit that you're wrong
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just like I
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Used to always think about like oh the moment if I was one of these shows where I would get voted out and I feel like
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The best thing you could do is just be like well didn't see that one coming
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like okay, like whether or not you did or not because I feel like it's I don't know it's just it's it's so much worse
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: To like like my biggest fear would be like a really a big emotional reaction to getting about it like being blindsided
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And instead it's like if you could just treat it like it's a game almost like it's a game
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Then that would be one thing, but yeah the MJ just constantly saying I'm not aware what she's what that if that is true
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What she's saying is I'm aware that the things I'm doing are bad for me
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm gonna do them anyway
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is worse in my opinion I agree I agree
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So it seems as though Chelsea has made some progress here that MJ is now leaning more in the direction of evicting Rubina
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Which you know may or may at this point, I don't even know what Cam will do
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think Rubina is more likely to take MJ than Cam is
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Rubina and Chelsea basically have no relationship at this point game wise
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas Rubina and MJ kind of do and Rubina has made some promises to MJ and Cam certainly hasn't
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I think one of the reasons why Cam was so disappointed that he lost
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Was that he doesn't want to take MJ to the end like why would he cut Chelsea to lose to MJ in his in his mind right
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So like I do feel like Cam is a lot more likely to take Chelsea and I think that Rubina is a lot more likely to take MJ
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know I think that like in MJ's mind it doesn't really matter because she doesn't want to be in the end with anybody but Chelsea
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: She and she expects to just win the final 3h oh her or Chelsea and so
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If Rubina had won this HOH
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Do we have an idea of who she would have wanted to leave
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean the HOH or the veto
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The HOH
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I guess it doesn't matter either way I mean I'm just saying who would she have wanted to leave had left
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Had she not been on the block and everyone else been available to leave
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Right like if she had the choice I mean I don't know for sure
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that she would have wanted Cam to stay for sure
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a matter of Chelsea or MJ
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_02]: We know that she had conversations with Kimo about Chelsea being unbeatable in the end
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Now Chelsea would need to go and she would need to go to the end with Cam
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Those were mostly prompted by Kimo
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much Rubina like really feels that but that's definitely in her head
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: She has also made again some promises to MJ
[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So those could come into play as well
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But in my opinion it would have come down to like
[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Well Chelsea's the bigger final 2 jury threat
[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: But MJ is the bigger comp threat
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_02]: So if I want to get to the end with Cam I need to win in order to get to the end with Cam
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And if I don't take out MJ then I might not be able to win
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it would have been a back and forth decision
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Cam would have been pushing MJ a lot
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And that might have pushed her in that direction as well
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You know you could then say like
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Would she then pick up on the fact that like Cam is a lot more likely to take Chelsea
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Than me if I keep Chelsea around than MJ
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's not really the game that Rubina has been playing so far that kind of positioning game
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: She's more of a relationships player
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's really hard to tell
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know which way she would have gone
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But honestly I mean I'd put faith in Chelsea to say that she probably would have changed her mind and gone to MJ
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: The reason I ask is I was trying to think of whether or not it would have just been a better week for Chelsea overall
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: If she had somehow thrown the HOH hoping to either win Vito or no that she would be safe regardless
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And I would try to think so it seems like the scenario where that might have not worked
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Would have been if Cam had won the HOH and Rubina had won the Vito or if Rubina had won the HOH
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And then somehow MJ or Cam decided to vote out Chelsea which seems pretty slim
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah it's just interesting hearing these conversations where Chelsea clearly has an outcome she wants
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just wondering is like I'm never going to say that someone should not win HOH this far into the game
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's better just to be safe but in the long run if she really had like a firm choice that she had wanted
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that would have been the easier route or the more sure route this is probably an easier route
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I mean I think I would say if you don't feel confident in being able to get what you want
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: In terms of the person you want out at the Final Four
[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You should also not feel confident that you are able to save yourself if you're not
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Right exactly because it's really the same thing of if
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: If Chelsea is going to have to convince someone to get the person out that she wants
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It might as well be safe and the HOH enjoying that convincing like she's trying to do here
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I agree
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's where things are there still was no firm decision made
[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_02]: That's you know it is MJ was maybe leaning toward evicting Rubina now
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But she wants to talk to Cam they might talk to Rubina again
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure with how this cast has been working that there'll be more shifting here Rubina
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I imagine she's promised MJ things before should be promising MJ the world
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And Cam honestly has not promised MJ much in the past
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't expect him to promise MJ as much
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Cam is going to tell MJ I'm taking you to the Final Two of her Chelsea
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think Rubina might say that
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And that should matter a lot to MJ and she might come back to Chelsea a little more firm
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's still a bit of play here we'll have to wait and see
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But as of right now it is still technically undecided
[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But Cam should take MJ to the M over Chelsea right?
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah so
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's sad because people are like oh how can you make it to the Final Two
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And then make the wrong decision or whatever Final Three
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Make it the wrong decision of who to bring to the end if he was in that position
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also can kind of see being like oh my gosh I've been here for 80 something days
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't want MJ to win so I'm just going to take Chelsea
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Well that's the thing like if you're MJ
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And you basically win or probably win sitting against anybody other than Chelsea
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a no brainer move you have to cut Chelsea
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And she knows this too but is probably not going to do it because she feels like she has a chance when she doesn't
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're Cam and you think you probably lose to both
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But you have a slightly better chance against one
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But you have a much stronger connection to the other
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like it starts to get more understandable
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's where it's like you know
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Am I really going to cut Chelsea just so I can lose to MJ
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah exactly
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean listen you should still do it it's still the right move it's still bad to not do it
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's you can see where it comes from a bit more
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas you know MJ
[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Both thinks this and is the reality
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You know sees that she has a much harder time against Chelsea than Cam
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm yeah
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's been a slow end game
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So yes
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what I would I would say I'd still rather have a good to exciting
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Majority of the game and a slow end game rather than a difficult to watch
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Entire game with just a exciting end game
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I know they were talking about this I can't remember if it was Maggie or someone else this week was saying
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the ending of big brother 22 was very exciting towards him that might have been you actually who's that
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we both said it
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And I agree with that but while there were parts of that game that I liked there were parts that were just so monotonous to watch that
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like this game was a lot more interesting the full time
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Or there was also like it was more of an exciting
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Prevents and minutes in the finale
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Than an exciting end game
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, what I'm curious about is like I would say that the seasons that tend to be remembered the most as like good seasons are the ones that have an exciting end game
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm curious to see from like a especially a casual perspective but also like a how do we remember the season perspective like do we
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that we remember this season fondly as like super fans regardless
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But but a slow boring end game. I think that was like the death of you know big brother 20
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know you could argue that
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You know some would argue that the end the winner also helped kind of like
[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Make like cap off that season as maybe not as good
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I would agree with that but I think that a lot of people would say that so maybe you would say that Chelsea winning this as a very
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like deserving she dominated the season kind of ending helps keep it available
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know this is a season that is a little more comparable to something like a big brother 16 in terms of ending
[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Where it's like, you know
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: With big brother 6 you knew from weeks ahead of time what the outcome was same thing here
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that the season hasn't had a much stronger first three fourths
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know so I don't know I'm curious to see what the the perception of the season is given the
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I would say probably slower than average
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_02]: End game here
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we'll see
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Which doesn't make it a bad season overall just no slow towards the end if
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: you know if the producers were
[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: were
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Concerned about that they are completely in control of speeding up the end game
[00:29:05] Yeah
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. Well, that's what we have for you then today, of course, I'll be back tomorrow morning 11 a
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Meastern to update you on everything that happens today on the big brother 26 live feeds including if they have another conversation about the vote at some point today
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, we'll see we'll see
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And then maybe at some point they'll do the vote too
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the edge of my seat
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So stay tuned for that, of course tonight. There'll be an episode. I think it's gonna be a late one
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So stay tuned for that. I'll be live on switch watching it and then back here recapping it after the fact as well
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So tune in for all of that check out the circle finale coverage check out the summit check out the jet lag stuff we did
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: For this season plenty of fun stuff going on over there and check out the scripted show coverage that we're doing as well
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Mary, what do you got going on?
[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So this if this is my last big brother podcast which it might be it might not be but if it is now's the time to say we are entering
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The the time of the year where my social media is going to turn entirely into talking about ultra running if that's something you're not interested in that's fine
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: If that's something you are interested in
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Feel free to follow me at frail mary and on starting on October 19th in two weeks
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It will be the backyard ultra world championship that my brother will be running on team USA and I will be there crewing him so
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I will be tweeting out the live feed for that and everything because if you if you like watching this endgame of big brother where it's just a few people
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Sitting around being boring and maybe you'll like watching people run for days on end straight so you know just as entertaining
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. Yeah
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, at least they're moving
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah once an hour we get to go. Whoa look at them go
[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: If you know they're in different places
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly. It'll be really exciting. So um, yes follow me for all the updates on that
[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. Well, thank you all so much for joining us then here today and I will see all of you
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Next time