BB26 Roundtable Week 2: Was Chelsie’s HOH a Disaster?

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[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Hallo alle und willkommen zu RHAP. Das ist der Roundtable Podcast für Big Brother 26. Ich bin dein Host, Sharon Armstrong.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_02]: This is, of course, the podcast where we talk about everything from the feeds.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We also rate the players from 1 to 10 based on how well we think they are doing in the game.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And we go over the week's events.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And what a week to go over.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And what a panel to go over it with.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Because this week I am joined by QT. How are you doing, QT?

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I am doing amazing.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_05]: The Roundtable Podcast is one of my favorite podcasts to watch throughout the Big Brother season.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm really excited to be on and to contribute to it now.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I was saying that I'm scared that I am going to like tank people's stocks in some kind of way because my numbers might be a little bit off.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm going based on my gut and what I feel.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And hopefully everyone out there feels it as well.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You just have to embrace it. QT, you also have some experience ranking players.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_05]: That's true. I fear I'm not the best raider of players, though, as I put my number one ally pretty low in one of the last ratings.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm here to avenge myself, I think.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. There you go.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, also joining us tonight is Mari. How are you doing, Mari?

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm doing good, Taryn. And as the only married mother on the podcast, I'm here to make history by intentionally tanking your faves.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, as I love to do when I come on.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But no, I am so excited to be on the Roundtable this week.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_03]: This week. I mean, this is nuts.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Nuts. This season is nuts.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And I love it. And I'm so glad I can be back to talk about it with you, Taryn.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And QT, of course.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of married mothers.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_02]: If you have not seen it, Melissa has posted an update that she has officially given birth to her baby.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's healthy.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And Melissa is back home and doing well.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So we're very happy for Melissa.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yay!

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations!

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Congrats!

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the married mothers club!

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody get counter running.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, here's the thing, Mari.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Now she is your competition and you both know it.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So now I have to be very wary of her.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, Taryn.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Be careful of her low budget performances.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's talk about this week because it's been interesting.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like we're in this weird place where the game is interesting.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: The season is interesting.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But it feels like the feeds are letting us down in terms of like showcasing how interesting the game is.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's primarily because resident drama creator and married mother herself, Angela, has not been really shown on the feeds for most of the drama that she's creating.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And so we're missing out on a lot of stuff, a lot of context in that regard.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And the game itself feels very fluid in a new way, I think primarily because of the cast, but also the twist, the AI arena twist and the ways that it's interfering with the natural game progression, which in many ways I'm kind of happy with.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of interested to see how this plays out.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But but when the feeds are cutting a lot, it's kind of difficult to track how it's all playing out.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So QT, how what has been your response to the season so far and this week?

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, everything you said, I feel the same.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I'm really enjoying this season, but then like not enjoying this season because I'm not able to watch it all.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess like most people, like the casual viewers might really be enjoying the season because the episodes have been really good.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But for me, Big Brother is watching the live feeds and seeing 24 seven of these people act crazy and the votes flipping and all of this stuff.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And we have such a good cast this season where they really are playing and everyone's doing their own little things.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And like you said, we're seeing a different kind of dynamic of the game and maybe the game evolving in some type of way.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_05]: But we're not able to see all the nuances of everything because they are cutting.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like I know they're cutting a lot because of the Angela stuff, but then they keep the feeds down for like the next 20, 25 minutes.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So we're missing more than that.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's not just that that they're cutting out.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's annoying, but I do enjoy the season.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I just wish I was able to see more of it.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's because the issue is that we're not just missing Angela and her fights or blow ups or whatever.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We're also missing anybody talking about Angela or her fights or blow ups or whatever.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Which means that the feeds have to be down for a considerably longer amount of time.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And considering that Angela is one of the nominees this week, we're also missing a decent amount of the discussion surrounding.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, do we want to vote Angela out?

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_02]: If so, why?

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It's cut.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like it's that's tough, too.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So we're in this weird spot where it has been so spotty for the.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's frustrating.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's really it has me torn because I'm like, I think Angela when the feeds do let us see Angela.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_03]: God, she's so funny.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Like she serves.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: She gives she she just she stirs the pot and it's amazing.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact that they keep.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Cutting them, I'm almost like, OK, well, if you get her out, will we you know, will we not have these feed cuts?

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't even trust that, honestly, because they're showing us that they're, quote unquote, trying to protect the players.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But honestly, like you and Maggie said, I think on Sunday, it feels like it really is making it worse because I personally am like, I don't think Angela.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't feel to me or she doesn't get off the vibes that she would do anything that's like game breaking that we've seen before of like the feeds cutting a la Kyle, a Luke.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And like, I don't get that vibe from her, but I don't know because the feeds are are down and I'm trying to be like, give her the benefit of the doubt and be like, I don't think she did anything that horrible.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: As opposed to people who are probably like, oh, wow, look, they have to cut from what she did.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_03]: She probably did something even more horrendous than we think, just like Maggie was saying.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And so this does not help having people just rampantly speculate on why you're obscuring a possible fight or blow up that she had.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It it just is not like I don't know who's been talking to Canada, like who back there talk to Canada.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Get that. Stop. Don't listen to them.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, show us everything.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Show us everything. When did when did they get so sensitive when it comes to like like showing things?

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm it's clearly been the last few years, the last few seasons, but it's it's just been so annoying.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I truly don't like it, but but I am enjoying the season.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I am enjoying the cast. I am enjoying how fluid everything is.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Again, byproduct of the twist, which.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Jury's out. The good thing is only four weeks of this, maybe.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's so weird. It feels so bittersweet.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_05]: There's part of me, too, that wonders, is it that they're trying to protect her or are they trying to add this all to an episode that they want us all to tune into?

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And like, they just don't want us to know the details of what happened because they want us to watch the episode.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Because, you know, in the past when there's been a big fight, probably even bigger than what had happened with them.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_05]: But they'll like cut the feeds for the full day until the live episode the next day.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, could it be something like that?

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I actually think it's neither.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that they they're not cutting for the episode.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they understand their show at this point that like that, like the people that watch the feeds are more likely to watch the episodes than people who just watch the episodes.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And so cutting the feeds makes people watch the feeds less.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And if there are less people watching the feeds, then there are less people that are more likely to watch your episode.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. So so I don't think that's it.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And then in addition to that, it's not like, you know, they cut the Angela Lisa argument.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't see that in the episodes.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think they just don't want us to see it.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the idea that like because I've heard this a lot, too, that like, oh, well, this is to protect the players, you know, on its face.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: We know that's not true because this is a production company in Hollywood.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But but even beyond that, right, like I think that this is actually a really good case to show exactly why that's the wrong, I think, path to follow if you're trying to figure out what's going on.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Because there have been there's been some controversy about Angela and how people are like leaving, you know, comments, like sending messages to her, like her employers and like stuff like that.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And let me tell you, none of that's coming from the live feeds.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: None of that's coming from the live feeder.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No, that's coming from the people who are watching the episodes, who are watching the scathing edit that she received, which is not to say that it was necessarily unfair on like her part.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But but but the reason why people, the casual audiences hates Angela so much is because they gave such a glowing edit to her, quote unquote, victim in Matt.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And and that is the real danger of being on reality television is that you are giving up control over how you are edited and how you are edited in so much more dramatically impact the level of vitriol that you receive outside of the show.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas the live feeds, you know, you know, sure, you can point to somebody like Aaron Grease, now Aaron Williams and say she might not have received as much hate if the live feeds weren't on her.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think that's exactly like the poster child that you want to be pointing to.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So so kind of like the what I'm getting at here is that the the live feeds are better or better for the players in terms of protection.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It protects them from this style of edit so that somebody like Angela can come out of the house and be greeted by a plethora of fans, the fans that are most involved in the community that are going to be able to say, like, listen, Matt wasn't the golden boy necessarily like you are OK in this regard.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But now those same fans are wondering why are the feeds cutting?

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why? Why is it that that like we are not able to see this stuff?

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Why does why don't the producers trust Angela on the feeds to not to seemingly not say anything that would get them in trouble?

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: They clearly are not trying to, again, protect Angela when they're editing Angela in this way.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, so so what is actually going on here in the same way that I don't think they would have been protecting Luke if they had hit that button faster to cut the feeds before he said what he said?

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that they are simply just trying to protect themselves as much as possible.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And they are doing so at the expense of their contestants.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. And like you said, us feedsters, we're loving everything Angela is doing.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, we're eating it up and it's the casuals that are just like they are a pet chick or like about Angela.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: They hate her. And I'm like, how are you trying to clean up the mess that you create at CBS?

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like like you said, Angela deserves an edit, but making Matt look so sympathetic just really riled those people up.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like you knew what you were doing. So now you're reaping what you're sowing.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's coming back on us, the feedsters, and it's coming back on Angela because she can't she's not protected because the feeds aren't on.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, I don't want to talk about last week, but like Angela, when she is on and when we get to see her, like what she's doing, it is so hilarious to me.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Not not only hilarious, but it gets the game moving like the game was so stagnant this whole week because of the twist.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Her just for a night, like throwing out the power and like being like, oh, I know something you don't know, like brought so much life back to the season.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just a shame that we don't get to see all of that.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's a shame that we're not getting to see her as a fully functioning character because, yes, she is, you know, has her quirks.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But like, I think it I think it's good to see everything.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It's to see her like, you know, her talking to herself.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: They kind of cam talk from her today.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure that's what that was going to be in the storage room.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_03]: She was about to cam talk and like, nope, and like cut from her.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I want to hear what she's thinking.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just I don't understand.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mean, I understand it because you explained it very well, Taryn, but I'm pissed that they're doing this.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she's so fun to watch, especially as in from a place of power.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_05]: She was so fun to watch as H.O.H.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_05]: So I can only imagine what we're missing from her on the block with that anxiety of honestly, she thinks she's going home.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So and she might at this point, who knows?

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, her working from that place of fear, I feel like could be even more fun to watch.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_05]: And again, would get people glued onto the live feeds.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm also upset because now I feel like some of the house guests are going to come out and be like, you don't see everything on feeds.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Because they cut so much and they'll be like kind of justified.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: What can you do?

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's give a quick recap here.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, we saw last week that Matt was evicted from the game.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And we had a new H.O.H.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Was crowned.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was, of course, Chelsea.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Despite the fact that she was not super into winning the H.O.H.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: We saw that Chelsea was looking to target Lisa.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: She nominated Lisa, Angela and Kenny for eviction.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Kenny won the veto and Tucker volunteered to be his replacement.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And we are now in a spot where Tucker is on the block against Lisa and Angela.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And the main sort of thing here is, do they vote out Angela because she's gotten into some more blow ups that we haven't been able to see?

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Or do they vote out Lisa because they think she has a power?

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And some of them, particularly Tucker, are very annoyed by her.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And theoretically, she seems like more of a threat.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_02]: The competition that she won was a little more skill based than they perceive Angela's competition win to be.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, the A.I. arena may take this choice away from them entirely if one of them wins.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But as of right now, the decision is still kind of up in the air, mostly because of their own actions pushing themselves ahead of the other one in terms of who is the biggest target.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what did Lisa do today to make her the target?

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And then, oh, nope, now it's Angela is doing so much to make herself the target.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: There's some alliance maneuvering going on as well.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, but for the most part here, in terms of the vote, it is coming down to it was it was described today as kind of like a head versus heart kind of situation where like the heart kind of wants Angela to go.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But the head says Lisa is still the bigger threat.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But luckily for Lisa, Angela is doing her best to try to convince people's heads as well that she should leave because she's trying to convince people that Quinn has the power, which of course he does.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But if she does manage to convince people that Quinn has the power, which she has been unsuccessful at so far, they will then realize that Lisa does not have the power, which takes away one of the head reasons to evict Lisa over Angela.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's been quite quite a series of blunders here.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why I love Angela and need her to stay on here, because the fact that she's actively working to get herself out without even realizing that she is and she's working hard at it, like going up to Tucker and being like, I know for a fact what the power is and who has it.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just a mess.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But I love her so much.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I can't stop watching her.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_03]: How did we get a house full of people who think they know what's happening and just completely not know what happened?

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I just everybody is convinced that they know exactly what's going on.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela, her just going up to everybody and be like, I know it's me.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And all of that has been so funny to watch, like on the feeds, all the clips, all of that.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And then her trying to tell Tucker and Tucker's he's he knows Lisa has the power.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He knows it's the plus two.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And just like, I just I can't.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It is.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It is all so funny to me.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And like the only thing that could make this like a worse ending to the week is if Lisa or Angela wins the AI arena to me, because them being on the block next to Tucker is kind of like a no brainer.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So I I mean, for maximum fun on Thursday, I want Tucker to win AI arena.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like I know Angela and Lisa will make good use of that 60 seconds that Matt and Kenny didn't.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was just going to be like, listen, guys, stop lying to me.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I know.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Tell me right now.

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I know you're voting me out.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I know every single one of you plans to go into that room and vote me out.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: They'd be like.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: No, yeah, I want them to still not vote her out.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't know.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It is just oh, my God.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been so it's been so funny to watch.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I like watching people actively campaign against themselves.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you said, it's just it's chef's kiss.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And at a week to at week to where like everything is still up in the air.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: However, this is the funnest.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the funnest time to watch this style of gameplay.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I some people are like people.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen people complaining that there's no like real strategic power in the house.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no like like like strategic superpower.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no real structure.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the gameplay.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, everybody's calling that house full of faute.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, guys, this is what we should want.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_03]: We should want everybody on like the same playing field and nobody's quote unquote steamrolling and all of this stuff.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Like and again, it's only week two.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're we're we're like right on track for a leftover style formation of a strong alliance, you know, to happen like midway through the game, blah, blah, blah.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we're there's so much time left for us to get the real strategy stuff, especially when the twist gets out of the way that I'm just in.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just really enjoying the vibes and the and the small pocket groups and the, you know, even the house targets.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_03]: The house targets are people that I'm like sure they can go.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm having fun personally.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. Yeah.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Also, to your point, Mari, I feel like the best part of the season for me, at least, is that these people are operating from positions of feeling like they know what's going on, even when they don't and making decisions based on that.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But I like that everyone's not everyone, but most of the people in there are not afraid to make a decision or to do something based on the knowledge that they think is 100 percent true, even when it's not.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's fun to watch for us because we have all the information.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_05]: But then it's also nice just to know that there's players in the game that are willing to do stuff once they feel like they know something, if that makes sense.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it's fun to watch them really like play the game.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there's a few, obviously, that are not really doing too much, but for the most part, everyone is.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. And honestly, I feel like it's going to be difficult to give like a strategic update because.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Where did we even leave off in terms of strategy and where are we even now in terms of strategy?

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all still so much up in the air.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say that the Pentagon is losing focus, traction in terms of it being a solid alliance.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And Chelsea's HOH has probably not.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Been successful in terms of solidifying a power base for herself, though she has been successful in getting through it without like creating any new enemies.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, a little bit of a mixed bag there.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I guess luckily for her so far, there has been no significant power base that has been built outside of her HOH.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Although there is one that is currently brewing and made some some pretty decent progress today, I think probably the biggest strategic structure currently being built that that has the most potential right now stems from the visionaries, which is Quinn, Kimo, T-Corps.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: They've pulled in Rubina to some degree.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: They've now already had conversations with Tucker and it's starting to really take shape and has a lot of potential for actually working really well.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of people who are like actively trying to win the next HOH, which is huge.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They've talked about a couple of other people like like Brooklyn and and even like Kenny.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, should we talk to Kenny?

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Should we not talk to Kenny?

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's some stuff going on there.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But like I would say that is the group right now to keep the closest eye on in terms of like actually making something work, especially heading into next week.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And the funny thing about that, too, is like I think it's because a lot of these people are prescribing to the meta of you get the HOH, you get the power, you solidify your alliance.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're like, yes, we kind of have these loose groupings, but we need the HOH to solidify it.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're not in that last step when it's like last season, Riley had the HOH and the professors formed right under their noses.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying? Like and they solidified it.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, they they solidified it first and then they won and then they took action.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying? So it's it's it's really funny that it feels like.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, hey, hey, hey, they had one good week.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_03]: They had one good week. Don't blame it. The professors had one good week.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I do miss their flips. I feel like we're not getting as many flips of the house of the vote.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And and we will not because it's it's like there's no Izzy.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no Izzy. Shout out to Izzy. There's no Sari.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And also this twist will not allow for a flip because how are we going to flip when we don't know who the nominees are?

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like every season Big Brother comes back and like they somehow try and like destroy what was happening last season.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they had bestie besties after the cookout season.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: They have this twist after Sari and them's like flip flopping on on a Wednesday.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: They have remember that it wasn't Waffle Wednesday.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like Waffle Tuesday, Waffle Monday, Waffle every day.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But we're not even getting that because we can't with the twist.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, I say all that to say that like it's so funny that everybody is kind of like so afraid to really get into alliances.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And again, I think it's because last year we saw remember when Sari was in so many alliances, she could not keep it straight.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like she's like, wait, wait, OK, this is this one.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think a lot of them saw that and are just a little hesitant.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, everybody except for Quinn.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_03]: At this point, Quinn is like, I just I'm about to make an alliance for the lulls.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Just so I can say I've been in alliance with everybody.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, well, let's let's talk over some of the results of the survey here, because on top of allowing the audience to rate the players,

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: we also ask the audience to give some opinions on the week.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And and so one of those things is to rank the players and their favorite to their least favorite.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And and I like to I like to quiz the panelists to see if they are in tune with the audience.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Who do you guys think is the number one favorite player on the board?

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me look at my list of house guests.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going back and forth.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to think I'm just going to say Quinn.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that the audience is pulling more towards Quinn.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sorry.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, that's it.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I feel like I want to go T-Core.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, especially because today I feel like I mean, everyone's been loving T-Core since the beginning.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think today she really solidified herself as someone that people see potentially going far.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think I'm going to go T-Core.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, QT is correct.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: She was my one.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Last week, it was Quinn by a decent margin.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: This week, T-Core has taken the top spot, which means that she has jumped from eighth place last week to first.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_02]: This week.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like Quinn went down because of his comments about Rob has a podcast.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I said that.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot about that.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Who do you think is number two?

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, if it's not Quinn, then the chat is yelling Tucker.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot him, too.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Tucker.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it could be Tucker.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I like almost want to go Quinn because he was number one last time, but he's fucking fall.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess just to be different, I'll go Quinn.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Neither of you.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That's correct.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, can we guess again?

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me think.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Kimo.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Rubina.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Mari has it right there.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Kimo.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Kimo.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Kimo is my favorite.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Him and T-Core together.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Sign me up.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_05]: The best.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I honestly, during the live show last week, started tearing up when he won the AI competition.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I got so happy and emotional for him because I feel like he was really trying to find his footing last week, but being on the block didn't help him.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And he was a little bit hesitant, but it was just so nice seeing that.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And then when everyone was so excited for him, I mean, whether they were excited for him or not, Matt didn't win.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, that was so nice.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_05]: So I do love, what's his name?

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I was just going to say T-Core.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Kimo.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: T-Core and Kimo, the two top spots.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Also jumping from 10th place last week to second place this week.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go down to the bottom.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's at the bottom of this list?

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Has to be Lisa, no?

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be Lisa.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not Lisa.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's Kenny.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Kenny.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine with that.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Kenny at the bottom last week is still at the bottom this week.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I think volunteering for the block did not help.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but he won now.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_03]: He's in it now.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all don't care anymore.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You were both correct, though.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Lisa was second.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Second down there at the bottom.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that we can run through now.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_02]: T-Core at the top, followed by Kimo.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Then it's Quinn, who dropped from first to third.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Then it's Tucker, who actually dropped from second last week to fourth this week.

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Then it's Rubina, who jumped.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just, yeah.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the power.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody who wants to.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It is the alliance.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Want those people to get together.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that makes sense.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: 11th place last week and fifth place this week.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: T-Core, Kimo, Quinn, Tucker, Rubina, all at the top.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Then it's Chelsea, Cedric, Brooklyn, Joseph.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Then a bit of a drop.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Then it's Cam, Leah, Angela.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Another drop, Mackenzie, Lisa.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Way down in the middle.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_03]: That tracks.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Way down in the middle.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that makes sense to me.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I asked the audience to rate the episodes this week.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Last week, they were given a 5.9 in comparison to Big Brother 25's 6.1.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, Big Brother 25 in week two, the episodes were given a 4.5.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So there was a pretty decent drop in the second week of episodes for Big Brother 25.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Big Brother 26, 5.5.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But there's still a drop, but not nearly as big a drop.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I really feel like the competitions being so equitable this year is helping, for sure.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Because it's fun to watch now.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, watching the HOH and knowing literally anyone can win is better.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, exactly that.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, of course, it was going to drop after.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, there was no fight, really, this week.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So, and, you know, we love the fights.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I asked the audience to rate the feeds.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Last week, they were an 8.7.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Amazing.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: This week, a 4.7.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Dang.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, of course.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, they weren't on, so.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_05]: They were on half the time, so they got half the score.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty much.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So this is kind of interesting.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So in Big Brother 25, last season, the episodes were 4.5 compared to the 5.5 this season.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So the episodes are doing better than last season.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But the feeds last season were still an 8.0 in week two.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Versus the 4.7 this week.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing, too, is that I feel like some people have talked about the season.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, ah, we're slowing down already.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're, like, this is not as good.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's two things going on.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: One is that last season was kind of a nod.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, in terms of Izzy and Sari and all of the flip-flopping and chaos.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that was, like, up there in terms of constant entertainment.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas this season, it's a bit more normal, I would say.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But even then, it's not even that normal.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's still on the better side of things, I think.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And even with drama, I think we're on the better side of things.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The issue is not that the game itself has been bad.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But as we've talked about, it's that, like, the best parts have been cut away.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So it feels like a very slow week.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But if we had actually seen everything, I think we'd think, what another wild week of Big Brother 26.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, imagine week one if you cut out Angela calling out Matt.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That feels like a slow week all of a sudden.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And we pointed out so many times last season how Sari and Izzy and Felicia, they gamed from sunup to sundown for no reason.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, just constantly, constantly, constantly talking game, talking game, talking game.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And it is just not comparable.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, this season is just not comparable to that.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But like Karen said, it's still good.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, that, I can't believe we got used to how fast paced last season was.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we got the steep drop off once, like, Izzy, like a few weeks after Izzy left.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's like, it's almost jarring to be back to a regular Big Brother season.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Where people are like slowly figuring everything out.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I asked the audience to rate the season as a whole so far.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Last week, it was a 7.9.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: This week, a 6.7.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So, bit of a drop there.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I think that's, I think that's even a little harsh.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I get it though, in terms of the viewing experience.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm almost looking at it from like a design perspective where I really feel like this season is one of the best design seasons they've had in a while.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Between the competitions and the twists.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And even the cast, to some degree.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But I cannot disagree that the presentation of it has been not great.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And even that, I agree with the audience that the episodes have been fine.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just that the feeds have sucked.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Because we're not seeing stuff.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't even rewind.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, it's hard to argue with the score.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Even though it really should, it should be higher.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're finally doing some things right.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But then they're doing other things so wrong.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So, it's a...

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_05]: We can never get it perfect.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Never a perfect Big Brother season.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'd rather see all the feeds than have a perfect Big Brother season.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I asked the audience to rate Chelsea's HOA train.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yikes.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: They gave her a 5.7.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Out of 10?

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You know.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Above a 5, at least.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll talk more about it during the stock watch.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But I...

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I think we're being a little hard on Chelsea, to be quite honest.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's more missed opportunity than it is active.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Everything wrong.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I also think because when she had absolutely no power last week, she was doing so good

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_05]: that the expectation for her as HOA was so high that people might not be rating based on how

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_05]: she actually did, but what their expectation was versus what she did.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And her as a player.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Taryn said it last week because that downgrade actually ended up working for her

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_03]: because she had no consequences.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she felt more comfortable pushing her agenda and being more active.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_03]: As HOA, she knows that any blowback will come back onto her.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, unfortunately, she's trying to mitigate the blowback.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That's her number one thing.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_03]: She's trying to play a defense really more than an offense.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And like, I kind of don't...

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't blame her.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_03]: She...

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_03]: At least she has not...

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, at least her closest ally isn't on the block at this point.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I...

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_03]: There's so many ways this could have went wrong.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It could have went left really quickly.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think she's done a good job of that not happening.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's how I'm looking at it.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_03]: She's playing defense as the HOA as opposed to playing offense.

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_02]: For comparison, last season, Heysum was HOA in week two.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was given a 2.9.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Ooh.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_02]: For his HOA.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_03]: He's playing a three offense.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Basically double.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: The Heysum HOA.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So, last week I asked the audience to rate the AI Arena twist.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: They gave it a 4.7.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: This week, having seen it play out once, they have now given it a 6.2.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Which has to be one of the highest twist ratings I think we've ever seen.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Taryn, do you think that...

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the AI Arena, so it's going to be that same space, I'm assuming.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_03]: That was the space off of the Have Not Room, right?

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this would be the basement is what they call it.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So, because then they do the actual HOH competition in the backyard.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Backyard.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So, this is like where the Den of Temptation was?

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: The All-Star, like the VIP suite or something?

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think it would be that room.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that there is like a separate space for them that I'm not entirely sure where it's located.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, I don't think it's connected directly to the house.

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It seemed like they got there pretty quickly back.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But anyways, I asked that to ask because like, do we think that it's going to be the same space?

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But do you think that they're going to still have that like same type of setup each and every time?

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like the screen?

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, given how useless like most of those screens were for that competition,

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_02]: since they all played the same thing,

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it wouldn't surprise me if they just reused that set every time.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I was thinking.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But they would have to come up with different ways to use it.

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But like, I'm sure they could.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I really like money.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I was just going to say about the twist.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I do really enjoy this twist, especially compared to other crazy ones they've had.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_05]: But mostly because I feel like it makes the episode even more exciting

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_05]: because you truly don't know what's going to happen until we get there.

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many different like permutations or whatever of who could go home.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So I like the excitement of having something live to watch,

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_05]: even though it's not an HOH.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's at least it's a type of competition that, you know,

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_05]: you're going to get a result for at the end of the episode.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It helps replace the live HOH that, you know,

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: has been missing from a lot of live shows lately.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's been nice.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Last week.

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, do you think they did that to guarantee like a live competition just because they

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_03]: they can't do live HOHs every week?

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that, you know, they've always wanted they always want a Sunday competition.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So for a long time, they've been doing Sunday twist competitions.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But that has always been a disaster.

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So basically, they finally kind of realized, oh, what if we did a twist competition that

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_02]: was Thursday and then we can we can just use the HOH for Sunday like we've often been doing

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: anyway.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we're guaranteeing a competition every single episode.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And and then it also kind of works with other in other with other fun.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's I think it's probably their best idea for doing competitions on Sundays in terms of like fixing that problem.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that makes sense.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I asked the audience to rate the upgrade downgrade twist last week.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: They gave it a four point five this week, a four point eight.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So roughly the same.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But slightly higher, I think, seeing how some of this is playing out.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Finally, I asked, who do you want to be evicted this week?

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you guys think the top choice to be evicted?

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Has to be Lisa, because Angela is bringing us fun, at least.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Was Kenny still on the table?

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Not on the table.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would say Lisa.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, Lisa with 53 percent of the vote was the top.

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_02]: The top choice.

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Followed by Angela with 37 percent of the vote.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And then 11 percent of people want Tucker to leave.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I really just want to see Lisa versus Angela on that block.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I need it.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely need it.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, here's the thing.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Angela is absolutely bringing it in terms of entertainment.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_02]: However.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_02]: If we're just going to keep getting feed cuts anytime there's anything interesting, I'm happy

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: to see her leave.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And quite frankly, if she's actually doing things worthy of having the feeds cut every time she

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_02]: does them, she probably shouldn't be in the house anyway.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I don't really I don't really see the point in in cutting the feeds on on

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Angela, but then also keeping her in the game.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: OK.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Should we rate the players?

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Best part.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, let's let's rate the players.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: This is, of course, the portion of the podcast where we rate the players from one to ten based

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_02]: on how well we think they are doing in the game.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And one being the worst, ten being the best.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Those criteria can vary from person to person from week to week, if you want.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and the audience also gets to say the audience is also voted for for the ratings.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So let's let's get into it.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's let's talk this through.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: First up, right out of the gate.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Angela.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Our week one.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: H.O.H.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She has been dethroned.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: She has been put on the block and is now facing.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Eviction.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, now.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I can possibly give her.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Any number.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_02]: What a one.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_02]: A whole host of reasons.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Primarily that like she just flat out shouldn't be in this spot.

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_02]: She should be in a majority alliance right now.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but she basically turned it down and then accused them of faking it.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so that was not great.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm hmm.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Even then she's not like she really shouldn't even be on the block, but she basically gave

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_02]: permission to be put on the block.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, even then she should be nowhere near the target, but she went off on one of her closer

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_02]: allies still, uh, for no good reason really.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and became a target.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And even then he's still a bigger target because everyone thinks she has the power except Angela

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_02]: is so convinced that she's already the person being evicted.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That she's actively working to counter that information, convince people that essentially

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Lisa doesn't have the power.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I get that.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't realize she's doing that, but she was explicitly told that by Tucker last

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: night.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: She still went for it.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so it's, it's, I, it's like, I don't think I've ever seen somebody work so hard to

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_02]: get evicted from the game without ever actually wanting to be evicted.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So it has to be a one.

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Very that.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_05]: So I agree and understand everything that you're saying, but I do feel like I see a way out of

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_05]: this for her in a way because she's not the target this week.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't think she'll end up going home unless I guess she, yeah, unless she's sitting

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_05]: next to Tucker, of course, but sitting next to Lisa, I think that she's still, despite

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_05]: everything that she's done to counteract it, I think that she's still going to stay.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And in a way.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_05]: So like in the beginning of the game, when she was first HOH, we saw that she has a good

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_05]: head for the game.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I know that sounds crazy to say after everything that she's done, but she does understand

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_05]: like kind of what to do.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I think she just acts out of fear too much.

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I'm curious to see how she plays when she doesn't have power and when she's not in

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_05]: a position where she thinks she's going to be leaving, like when she's a little bit more

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_05]: neutral, maybe she's able to, um, get her footing a little bit better.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I hope I would hope that for her.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I don't know, like I, there's some world in which I see her getting out of

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_05]: this, maybe starting to like play the middle a little bit, like float through and then

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_05]: do good possibly.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_05]: But I do obviously still think that she deserves a pretty low score.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to go two for Angela, but I, I, yeah, I want to give her a little bit of

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: grace because I think that she knows the game and is trying to do more in the game than like

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_05]: a Kenny, for example.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_05]: You know?

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that is an interesting point, which is that like Angela, you're right in that

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like she knows the game and if everything she believed to be true was true, her actions

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: aren't that bad.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: They're still bad, but they're not like as bad as they currently are.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_02]: The issue is that she just like actively believes untrue things at all.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if, if she was presented with like five true options and one fake option, she'd pick

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: the fake option every time.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And so like, it doesn't matter that she seems to know what she should do because she never

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: is acting on good info.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And I, I don't know how much safer you get than HOH.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_03]: HOH and we saw her from the safest position in the house and look at last week's scores.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_03]: They're all threes and twos.

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Karen, I kind of need you to go back and see if that's like the lowest score for HOH.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess not.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess people do mess up as HOHs, but I mean.

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually surprisingly common for first HOHs nowadays.

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So, but it's just like, she was in a position of power.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_03]: She was.

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't think that was good for her.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Like knowing her more as a person now, I don't think that she needed to have that much

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_05]: power, especially in the beginning because she didn't know what to do with it.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And she got overwhelmed by, I think she gets very overwhelmed by things.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And so having that HOH was worse for her than not having it at all.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_05]: In my opinion, I think.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think she probably came in thinking like, I'm the older woman.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be an uphill battle for me.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to be gunning for me for day one.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And everyone's like, oh, hey, Angela, let's come be in all of our alliances.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And she was like, I don't trust this.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't trust you guys at all.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this week it went from worse to worser to be quite honest.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_03]: From volunteering to be on the block.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But the major thing that started the feed blockages, her pointing out the group of Cedric, Cam, Chelsea and T-Core to Quinn.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, again, watching it, I was like, OK, in a vacuum, this looks very, very bad.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you're pointing out the only people of color, the only black people, like, you know, they're hanging out.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And all of a sudden it's like a thing.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, oh, that's the group right there.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And not only that, you're getting up, you're going to Quinn, being all weird and secretive, like, go look at them.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Go look at them out there.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And Quinn's like, oh.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So in a vacuum, that does not look good.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_03]: However, we just saw her spend a whole week prior pointing at every single group of people and being like, they're in an alliance, they're in an alliance, they're in an alliance.

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So, like, for me, I wasn't, you know, again, like, maybe I'm going to bat for a woman I don't know.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But, like, I still was not getting those vibes.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I was not getting the Kyle Luke icks of it all.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And so, like, I didn't think it was that bad.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And sorry, just briefly, though, like, I think that's such a great point because I think that's another example of why the live feeds are so beneficial.

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Because we have all of that extra context to understand that, like, that didn't take place in a vacuum.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And she really was pointing at every single group of people.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_03]: She was convinced that Matt had the whole house on his side last week.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, I, you know, I did not see it as, like, how it could have been perceived.

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_03]: However, do I understand how a T-Core might have perceived that?

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_03]: In that house and the whole telephone game with Quinn, you know, just kind of being like, oh, you know, Angela pointed out.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't even think Quinn thought of it that way, to be quite honest.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he realized what he was saying to T-Core.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I am.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he says it to T-Core.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And then T-Core says it to Chelsea.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_03]: They start comparing notes.

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And I do not blame them for being like, wait, did she just point out all the Black people?

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, because we've seen it time and time again.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And they weren't there when she said it.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And even when Chelsea approached her about it, even Chelsea was like, oh, I'm just, you know, just trying to figure things out.

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't seem like Chelsea was mad.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_03]: The person who blew this up was Angela.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Because Angela then comes to like all blazing, guns blazing at Quinn.

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just, it was a lot.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela gets a one.

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_03]: She dug a hole.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn buries her in the hole, kind of.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_03]: She buries herself.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And then from then on, which is the unfortunate thing, because now the production is seeing it as that way.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Now they're cutting it.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_03]: They're cutting the feed.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just like, I'm so upset that we're, stuff is getting blocked from us for something that is quite possibly a miscommunication, to say the least.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, she's doing, she did this to herself.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_03]: This whole week she did to herself.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So one.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the audience, tough to get a one from the audience.

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to be the case tonight as well.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_02]: The audience gave Angela.

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at that.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Nice.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't wait to see her go from these scores to like a nine next week.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to see it.

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I, I'm waiting for the, I told you so.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's sweet.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Me and the audience.

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_02]: We knew.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Easier to get to nine from a two than a one is all I'm saying.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Next up is Brooklyn.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_02]: QT.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel about Brooklyn?

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel really good about Brooklyn.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I have since last week.

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I think maybe I felt a little bit better about her last week because the Pentagon seemed to be the alliance that was going to really like trail forward.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But now seeing that that's not really happening, it makes me feel a little bit lower on her.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_05]: But I still think she's in a really good position and she does a good job of, I think, connecting to people on like a more personal level.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_05]: But then also being willing to talk game with them so that they know that she trusts them.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And then also when people are mentioning starting new little pocketed alliances or whatever, a lot of the times Brooklyn does come up as a name that they would want in the alliance with them.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm feeling pretty good about Brooklyn and I think I'm going to give her a seven.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Seven.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel?

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Brooklyn is.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Is she's like playing a very good.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you don't want to say floater game so early when there's no distinctive sides.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact that she can connect with so many different people, the fact that so many different people are like really want to work with her in some capacity, either it be as a tight core alliance member or as somebody on the peripheral is always a good sign.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_03]: The only I mean, the only person coming for her right now is Kenny.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_03]: He'll he will be in the house next week.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_03]: He will have a chance at HOH.

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So that is something to kind of keep our eye on.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But other than that, she's doing a great job of adapting.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I feel like as well.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I but I I'm still kind of missing the driver's seat, like her really like steering the strategy as opposed to my like just being in the passenger seat for a lot of stuff, especially since I really get a sense that she could if she wanted to.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so just playing a little passively.

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm gonna give her a six, uh, because I don't the Pentagon is kind of breaking up.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_03]: She's not in that the six that the visionaries are, um, are talking about.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I'm gonna just keep her.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, keep her out of six that she had like last week.

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_03]: She's doing a great job.

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, uh, I would love for her to just put her foot on the gas a little bit.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think, um, I'm in a similar place and I can tell you the audience also in a similar place.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They gave her a six as well.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, as will I, I think, um, I definitely toyed with the idea of going up to a seven for Brooklyn because I think I'm seeing more from her that is giving me confidence that she is a capable player.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I'm still not seeing evidence that she is a capable, uh, like active.

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, strategic player, uh, that she's like actively, like she has not been creating alliances.

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_02]: She has not been involved in building anything.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, she's getting pulled into a couple of things, but, uh, not as many as you would hope given how much she is liked and respected in the house.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I think she's in a good position to build something and she should be doing it now while she has that opportunity, uh, because she may miss out on that opportunity.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think this new visionaries plan could be the thing she misses out on.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_02]: She might get the invite still, but like Tucker doesn't really want to bring in too many people.

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't want to get, let it, let it get too big.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So like that, like, this is the problem where like Brooklyn is doing well, but something as small as that, as small as Tucker being like, eh, I don't, I don't really want to go beyond five or six.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, ah, well, I guess we don't have an invite for Brooklyn then.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And then this becomes the Alliance.

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_02]: They went H2H next week.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_02]: They lock in Brooklyn's on the outside of that now all of a sudden.

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, oh, like this, like it could have been so much different, especially considering Rubina is such an integral part of this new Alliance.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And like, she just hasn't, she's not even like that should be her in, but she's not active enough to like make sure that she's in that.

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, uh, I just need her to be like, just like 5% more aggressive.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I think she'd be fine, but I haven't seen her turn that gear on yet.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and it's almost like Rubina pushed her out too.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause it's like, yeah, Rubina is in like a better spot than her now.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, how did that happen?

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's interesting too, because this season, um, I wish I completely just lost my thought fully.

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it happened.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I like started talking and I was like, okay, I'll catch it.

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I did notice when I forgot Angela's name for a good five seconds, uh, a couple minutes ago.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you do a better job of covering it up than me.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I forgot my thought.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, no, but what I was going to say is that, how did I just lose it again?

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It's okay.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_05]: We're here.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_05]: It's something about HOH.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_05]: HOH.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, oh, I think that honestly, I feel like in any other season at this point, Brooklyn is probably getting even a lower score because, but because this season, the HOHs haven't done a good job of setting up that power structure.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause like you said, it could be very easy that the next person that gets HOH, if it is like a Rubina or a Quinn or one of those people and they set up their alliance and Brooklyn's not in it, then she like plummets down really low.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause she has no power, no alliance.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I think what's really working for her right now is that there are so many little alliances and so, so much is still moving.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I feel like I have faith in Brooklyn and that's why maybe I went a little bit higher on her.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like one of those people that gets in a relationship and I'm like, I see the potential.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I can change.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_05]: That's how I feel about Brooklyn.

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I just, I don't know, because like you guys said, I see the potential that she has to do good.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And that even if she wasn't a driver's seat, she would know what to do with it as opposed to like an Angela who didn't know what to do with it.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so because of that potential, I feel higher on her, but again, we'll see.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause next week is really gonna, I mean, I said that last week that I was like, next week is really going to set up the rest of the season.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And then it didn't.

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see how it continues to play out.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're completely right there.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that Rubina is the other side of that.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: We were saying that about Rubina last week that like, this is okay for now, but you're going to run out of room eventually.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And now she's in it.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, so she had that room that she might not, that these players might not have had otherwise in a normal season where there is a big alliance.

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Taryn, is it just me or would you hate it if this was like the like survivor, uh, second chances of big brother?

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we just get voting blocks all season, just amorphous.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that would be so fun to me.

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think is interesting to me.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, cause I mean, that was my thing is that like, even when the game was being broken back in season 12 and season 16, that was fun for me because it was kind of new at the time.

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was really interesting to see the ways that the game could be broken.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It got the, it got bad for me when we started seeing it happen over and over and over again.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Anything new I think is interesting.

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I loved, even though the cookout dominated their season, it was still so interesting to me because it was still so different than how the game had been played before.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so that's part of why I'm interested in this particular twist because unlike most twists that encouraged the same gameplay that we've seen a billion times,

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: this twist encourages different kinds of gameplay and it might be good.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It might be bad.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It might be entertaining.

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It might be boring, but at least it's new.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm curious to see how it plays out.

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, okay.

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about cam.

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Ari, how do you feel about cam?

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam, cam, cam.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You want to follow in Matt's footsteps, cam?

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, uh, cam, like how did we go from like,

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: well, no, I know exactly how he went from it.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause we said cam was in an amazing position last week,

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_03]: but we also, uh, pointed out that his positioning wasn't at his own doing.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: The, the positioning was kind of falling into his lap because of the type of player he is.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so this week we really saw him fall from grace because he took his eye off the ball, which is just, I cannot believe.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: After last week, when we had CCC, the core, they were like really running things during Angela's HOH.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_03]: We got so scared when they said, we don't want to win HOH.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: When Chelsea won HOH, I was like, yes, she accidentally won it.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Now they can really like just, you know, take reins of the, of the competition and go.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: They actually fell apart under Chelsea's HOH.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like how does, how did that happen?

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we'll talk about it, but like the fact that cam's closest ally, one of his closest allies is the HOH.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And he, he's going to be severely docked here, um, because he keeps his eyes completely off the ball because he's been chasing after Leah all week.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And the will we or won't we showman type thing just goes to show you that sometimes people's positioning is just not earned.

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's something that we see in big brother all of the time.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And like nine times out of 10, it's always, um, taken up by these athletic jock bro types.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_03]: They always get a higher positioning because of the social structure that is normally always put in place in big brother and like perfect positioning falls into their lap.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Some of them can, can, um, can seize on that and, and really, you know, take it home.

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And some can't.

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And, and cam is one of those who can't like, I didn't see anything this week to make me think that he is going to be like a strategic powerhouse in this game.

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's very sad to say, because I think we all knew that he didn't have the knowledge, like the big brother knowledge to really get him through.

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact that he isn't leaning on his allies to help him with it, with that is very irksome to me.

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And the fact that he, okay, he was browbeat into, um, volunteering for the block, but he still let it slide.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I gotta give him a five, but I just, I, I don't know, maybe I'm too hard on him, but there was just like, there was nothing redeeming about his gameplay this week to me.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like absolutely nothing. And then like, even suggesting to Chelsea, like just throw McKenzie on the block so you can flush her power.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, I get that's the sexy move, but that doesn't make sense for Chelsea on, for so many reasons.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and him suggesting it and be like, oh, okay, well then also, also feel free to put me on the block.

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, also, yeah, I'm going to chase Leah. I know showmancers aren't good.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to laugh about it, but I'm going to chase her. I don't know. Maybe I missed something, but I didn't, I thought this was a really bad week.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And if he does not get his head in the game, it's only going to get worse for him.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. The audience agrees. They gave him a five as well. Um, and honestly, uh, I'm tempted to go to a four because of how bad his position might be.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Not to mention the fact that he volunteered for the block this week.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Worse.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And if he had gone up, if Chelsea hadn't reconsidered and come to her senses, I think we are looking right now at Cam is gone if he doesn't win AI arena.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, because I like, I think a lot of people would, would pull the trigger on him right now if, if he were up there.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and that's, that's bad. And a lot of people are still talking about him as a potential threat.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, his spot in the house has just almost evaporated entirely.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's a part of no real structure anymore. The three C's Chelsea's not into it, uh, into him at least.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's lost Quinn because of the Leah situation. Uh, he has people like T core chemo looking at him real hard.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't want bros to be bro in it up and they see him as a bit of a bro.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the, so, so the, the Andersons are not really functioning like that, uh, anymore.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and so it's like, who does he really even have left? And it's kind of just Cedric.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Who has also pitched a final two to Quinn instead of, instead of cam.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and it's just like, Ooh, like there's nothing, there's nothing left. And on top of all of that, he's, he's, he's even, he's not even going to get the girl.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_05]: He's not even into him like that.

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the worst part about it.

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not even going to get the showman's bump. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I feel like, I feel like this has been such a disastrous week for cam. I think I do have to go with the four.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. I, I feel like it's a pretty easy for, for me, honestly. Um, again, like once you volunteer for the block, especially as a big threat, like cam could be, because I mean, from a viewer's perspective, we're seeing that the competitions are a little bit more equitable this year.

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And maybe a little more even for people to win, but in the house, they still are operating under the umbrella that usually the, the competitions are very physical. So you'd want to get a physical threat out. Part of the reason they wanted to target Matt last week is they felt like he would end up winning a lot of competitions and get a lot of power.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like that was the dumbest idea for cam to volunteer. And it didn't even take much for them to push him to volunteer. Like in that one conversation at, by the end of it, he was like, okay, yeah. Like, I mean a little bit hesitant. Sure.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_05]: But still you should never, especially your, one of your number one allies is the HOH. It shouldn't even be an option. It was such an easy week where I feel like Leah could have been the pawn if anything.

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Which I think is also something to say, which we can talk about later on Chelsea's part, but still the fact that cam wasn't able to convince her that he was truly on her side and that she couldn't even risk losing him as a number is crazy.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, cause even after the nomination ceremony, when he talked to Chelsea, he was like, I thought I was going up. Like he almost just like accepted it at that point.

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't even Cedric, at least when Cedric was finding out that he could possibly be a pawn at the end when like, what's it called? When Chelsea was going downstairs to make the decision, he kind of stopped her on the stair and was like, well, last, last option.

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Like if cam volunteered, then maybe go that way. Like he was at least trying to take his words back where cam wasn't.

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like that alone makes me feel like he's not great at the game. Um, and then the Leah situation of it all is not helping the fact that she doesn't even truly.

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's the thing too, is that the game is kind of just being played around cam I feel, and he's not really in it. Um, and I don't think he gets a good sense of where other people are because he doesn't even get the sense that Leah doesn't like him when I feel like it could be so clear if he really opened his eyes.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_05]: So the showmance of it all, him not understanding that Leah doesn't like him like that also goes into his gameplay where he might not real. Like, I mean, he doesn't realize that Chelsea is not feeling great about him because of the Leah situation or that other people might not want to be in alliances with him.

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so yeah, I just think that he's gonna get taken out one of these days just because, um, he has nothing really set up and I don't think he even sees it coming or realizes what's going on.

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And also I don't love how he has game conversations. Um, he kind of just talks in circles and I'm watching like trying to get to the point of it all.

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like he doesn't even really know what he's trying to say or what he's trying to get the other person to believe.

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And then the other person ends up really taking over the conversation. So just overall, I don't think he's that great of a player so far from what we've seen.

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like Cam a lot like as a person. Um, he just doesn't have enough game knowledge. I think that's the main thing. I think he just doesn't really know what he's doing.

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, and that's really like, it was fine when everything was worked like working out, uh, for him, but, uh, now, now it is not quite as fine.

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, all right, let's move on then to Cedric. Cedric last week, or first of all, though, Cam averages a five.

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow, a five.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Cedric last week had a six. Uh, the audience this week gave him another six.

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm inclined to agree. However, I have a couple of issues.

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_02]: One is that Cedric did also volunteer for the block, which is wild.

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, two, with the three C's faltering, that diminishes Cedric's position pretty considerably.

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, especially because he is not involved in the other power structures, similar to Cam in that way.

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so that's not great.

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then in addition to that, um, he is like, like, he's not even that involved in like what's happening with Brooklyn and Chelsea.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, where like, that's where there might be some other like structures to get in on.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, now I do think his saving potential saving grace is that, is that like Quinn, I think is less down on Cedric as he used to be.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And in pitching this final two, I think that Quinn is kind of like, I think he's kind of open to something there.

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I think that's like the thing that's holding Cedric afloat right now.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But, um, but man, the more I look at it, the more it's just like, who does Cedric even actually have?

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And if my best answer is Cam and Quinn, uh, it's like, Ooh, I'm worried.

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm worried there.

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and so that combined with the volunteering, I think I actually am going to go down to a five for Cedric.

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I agree with everything.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I honestly, I feel like I don't even have much to say about Cedric this week.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, he was in such a great position at him and Chelsea.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Both were in such great positions when they had no stake in the game, no vote, no, no, nothing.

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_05]: They couldn't compete for HOH.

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's when they were doing the best.

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and now I feel like it's kind of plummeting.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even fully understand why I think Cedric should be in much better of a position than he is right now.

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I, he's definitely doing better than Cam, not by much, but a little bit better in that.

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I think he has more allies and has more options of, um, places.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Less of a target.

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I think was, is the huge key there.

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, cause a lot of people are talking about Cam.

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: They're not really talking about Cedric as a target.

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I do wonder though, like if Cam were to leave, let's say Cam did volunteer for the block this week and.

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Ended up getting evicted.

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Ended up getting evicted.

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Does Cedric become the next target?

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I, I feel like I just don't really understand his positioning in the game.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, too well right now.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, like go between a five and a six, just cause he did do really good last week.

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think again, there's that potential that he can get back into that position.

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I think from where he is right now, I would give Cedric a five.

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, Mari.

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, maybe I'm not as doom and gloom as you guys are on Cedric because to me is the week a net positive.

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: No, because his power structure between Cam, Cedric and Chelsea completely collapsed.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, was it his fault?

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I, I, I, it wasn't his fault.

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking more at Cam.

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at Chelsea for not solidifying.

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I truly believe that getting Quinn off his back is like, to me, that's almost like

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: a slight edge net positive because with, without Quinn actively coming for him, for him, nobody

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: else is technically actively coming for him.

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I, I think he has enough shields in front of him to give him more time that he

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: could actually sneak his way into something.

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't see that for Cam.

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I see that a little less for Chelsea.

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So, and I, and I feel like I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm ranking them against each other since they

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_03]: all pretty much had the same kind of positioning last week.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: They, they all had the same positioning, but different, um, gameplay styles.

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So, um, if they're positioning now, all three of them is lower, it's who can get out of this

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_03]: hole better.

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm, I, I honestly feel like Cedric is the one who can do that.

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I'm going to give him a six and him and him and Quinn naming their alliance QC to

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: me as a scientist just made, I love that.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like quality control of QC.

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that was amazing.

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And if Cedric can continue to work Quinn and he doesn't even realize he's working Quinn,

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: which is great, which I think makes it more authentic.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: If he can continue to work Quinn, even if he's not in that five person power structure,

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: he'll be one of the last people to go.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Quinn will see him as his outside piece.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And the key to big brother is time.

[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So I, I, I think Cedric can is a master at getting more time.

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I, I'm, I, I think that he could, he could do really well.

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, I'm going to give him a six.

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't, I don't want to drop him too far.

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's very fair.

[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I think, and I, and like, those are all things that I completely agree with.

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I definitely almost gave him a six.

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but, uh, the volunteering for me, I think was the thing.

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, okay.

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on to Chelsea.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Last week I gave Chelsea an eight, the highest rating of the week.

[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm definitely not going to do that again.

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I wish I was, I really feel like that, you know,

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the highest rated player last week wins HOH in week two.

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: This really should have been like her crowning achievement,

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: uh, like structuring the game in a way that favored her.

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, as we talked about before, I feel like this is more missed opportunity than it is like

[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: active shooting herself in the foot.

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Although she came awfully close.

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, uh, and so I don't want to go too low on Chelsea.

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I still feel like she's in a pretty decent spot.

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think better than Cedric and cam.

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but, but man, I just feel like I still just can't help, but feel like, why, why are you so hung up on cam?

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like why?

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like cam should be a really valuable ally to you right now.

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, that you should be holding onto.

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, why are you allowing like Quinn to drift so much?

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, when like, you know, like she's spending so much time with MJ and Leah people that she's not even that closely working with,

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_02]: uh, and doesn't have like super long-term plans with, uh, and it's, and it's, it's just feels like she's letting the game drift away from her.

[01:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's frustrating.

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that doesn't mean she doesn't have options.

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: What I really like that she's done is that she's gotten closer to Brooklyn.

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, uh, unfortunately between the two of them, they're both being too passive in terms of building something.

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, and unfortunately for them, the people that they're associating with that are more active are either MJ who's like, yeah, let's work with Leah.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, and stuff, which is not really helping them their cause, their case.

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then the other person that they're like kind of pulling in is, is Rubina.

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Who is now finally being active for other people.

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so it's like, oh, but I do not think this is a lost cause by any means.

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think there's still plenty of potential here.

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and let's face it when may or may not be a ticking time bomb.

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, you know, that would be very good for Chelsea.

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I think if Quinn ended up kind of, uh, blowing up, uh, somewhere along the line.

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think I'm going to, I'm going to drop her down to a six, but I'm still kind of like, I'm still hopeful.

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm still thinking she's one of the better social players.

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And once she's not HOH, maybe back into a more comfortable position.

[01:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, she can maybe find herself sliding back in.

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I just hope it's not too late by then because the visionaries have like locked up the house.

[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, I agree with everything you're saying about Chelsea.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I, again, I was so high on her last week.

[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought she was playing one of the best games in the house, the best game in the house, honestly.

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And then once I saw she was HOH, I was like, oh my gosh, this is like, she's going to win the game.

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: She's going to really set herself up nicely.

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, she does a great job of talking to people and, um, making them feel comfortable with her.

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And then them also feeling willing to tell her things.

[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I like go back on fourth about how she handled the HOH in the beginning, especially when she kind of was saying that she's not going to be pulling people in to have chats, but whoever wants to have chats with her can.

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was the wrong thing to do because then it ends up just being like MJ and Leah always in her room wanting to talk to her.

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And it doesn't give that opportunity to people that maybe don't feel as comfortable of just like getting in her bed and hanging out and starting to talk game.

[01:20:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I think she should have set up more structured one-on-ones, especially at the beginning before she made her noms.

[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so that I feel pretty like down on her about, I mean, overall, just the whole HOH, she, she didn't do anything horrible.

[01:20:47] [SPEAKER_05]: That's going to tank her game necessarily, but she definitely didn't use the power to set herself up, um, for success in the next coming weeks.

[01:20:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And again, now we have another situation where it's depending on what happens with next week's HOH and how that person ends up setting up the structure of the house.

[01:21:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's going to determine how things move forward, where it could have been her that was setting all of that stuff up.

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I mean, I feel like her nominations were pretty, I, she ended up making the right decision on the nominations and not doing Cam, not doing Cedric.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But the fact that she really was about to do Cam or about to do Cedric brings her back low.

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's like, I'm like high on her for some things.

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And then it goes back low because of her decision making and being that she wasn't able to, um, use the HOH to her, the best of her ability and what she needed to.

[01:21:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It makes me feel like when she's not in a position of power, she's also not going to always make the right decisions.

[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so, oh, I think I'm going to, uh, this is so hard.

[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like really between a six and a seven for her because there's some good things about her and she does.

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she did.

[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_05]: See, it's like very back and forth because then in my mind, I'm like, she got MJ to tell her about her power.

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's great.

[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But then MJ went and told everyone else about the power too.

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's like, it's not, um, maybe it wasn't a Chelsea thing of why MJ told her the power.

[01:22:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe MJ was just willing to tell people about the power now.

[01:22:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, I'm going to stick with a six for Chelsea and hope that she can do better, but I don't know who knows now.

[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Again, it's just going to be dependent on what happens next week.

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't really like that for her.

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah.

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to give Chelsea a six, but it's going to be an upbeat six because again,

[01:22:48] [SPEAKER_03]: still, I think what we're harping on is what she could have done with this power and not what she did with this power.

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I, I said it before.

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I actually think that once Chelsea isn't HOH, she will bounce back because she, she seems like she is, she plays better from a defensive position than an offensive one.

[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I said it already.

[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and not in the way that Angela does just like completely annihilating her game and putting herself in a defensive position.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I actually have full confidence in Chelsea as a, as a player, um, going forward and confidence in her like comp abilities as well.

[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, again, yes, she considered Cam and, and Cedric as on the block because honestly she had like six people throwing themselves at her.

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Put me on the block, put me on the block, put me on the block.

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and, and she just talked, you know, who among us hasn't talked out loud about considering our closest allies?

[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Allies.

[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The thing is she didn't do it.

[01:23:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: She didn't do it.

[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We've seen it time and time again where people have actually put their closest allies on the block.

[01:24:04] [SPEAKER_03]: We've seen them actually like completely like blow up their game.

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I hate comparing her, her, her HOH, uh, to this, but I think of Bailey's HOH and, uh, BB20.

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's similar to me, uh, to me, me thinking it's similar because they were both in really good positions in the house.

[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_03]: When they won the HOH and then Bailey just told the wrong people, she had the power.

[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: She like, she, her, her HOH just went downhill very fast.

[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And the fact that Chelsea, I think did a good job of like, once she found out that MJ had the power, she, I think she did the correct thing and not putting up MJ, not getting blood on her hands, which is so boring.

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Again, this is not the sexy move.

[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea didn't make any sexy moves, but I think she made really good moves for it to be week two and a house that's very fluid where she is a capable player.

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, should the house be fluid under her?

[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_03]: No, she should be the one who is, who is structuring it.

[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think she is just unfortunately afraid of all of the powers out there and the twist.

[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is what happens year after year.

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like are these players, the players are kind of like hand tied behind these, these, um, these powers.

[01:25:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But can I also just suggest depending on how they edit this with like MJ and Leah being in her room all the time.

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And now people are kind of associating her and MJ together loosely.

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like this might be like 40 chests for her because the audience still, from what I understand, they like MJ.

[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_03]: They like Leah.

[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So if MJ does use her power, maybe it's not Chelsea who America votes for, you know, maybe there's some 40 chests we're not seeing here.

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But I, I do say all that to say that, uh, Chelsea did make, she, she, she has made some, um, mistakes.

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I like, it feels like mistakes.

[01:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it the right word?

[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, she, she, she, she didn't.

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_03]: She definitely just didn't take the power by the, by the reins and, and, and use it as much as, as she could, you know?

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So, um, uh, and I, I still have full faith in her.

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's still early.

[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's still early, early days.

[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And I, I'm hoping that even with the visionaries doing what they're doing, it just takes the wrong person winning HOH next week for that structure to not lock into place.

[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Unless Quineas is power.

[01:26:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But also that.

[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:26:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But I, I, I kind of hope it stays a little fluid still for the next few weeks so that she still has a chance to get a good grip on something.

[01:26:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I also feel like I don't put too much stock on the visionaries.

[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I like the group, but I feel like Quine is kind of teetering on about to be fully exposed for a few things.

[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And because of that, I feel like maybe that alliance shifts or maybe just like Quine becomes not a part of that anymore.

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm not so high on Quine that it doesn't scare me for anyone who's not in the visionaries.

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, again, I guess unless they get HOH or Quine uses his power, but I still don't feel like they're just going to become the dominant alliance to take over.

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Also, I do like from Chelsea that, I don't know, again, I don't know, I like it, but she let the Pentagon go.

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_05]: But she did do a good job of getting MJ and Leah on her side, which at first I didn't love because I felt like maybe they're just using her or saying whatever they need to say to get back into a good position.

[01:27:47] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think she's done a good job of really making them feel comfortable.

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, she was considering nominating one or both of them.

[01:27:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So for them not to even know that or feel that from her, I think is good.

[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So she's able to get herself out of things, which I like.

[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So that is promising to me for Chelsea.

[01:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. Well, the audience agrees with us.

[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: They gave Chelsea a six.

[01:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: QT, how do you feel about Joseph?

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Joseph. Oh, man, this guy.

[01:28:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, he's another one where last week I felt good about him in the beginning of last week.

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_05]: He was close with Angela and he was doing a good job, I think, of playing, not playing both sides, but being good with Angela.

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But then also being on the outsides and talking to people outside of who was close to Angela.

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And I thought that was really good.

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he has a good sense of the game, or at least I thought he did.

[01:28:41] [SPEAKER_05]: But once the whole blow up happened with Matt and Matt came for Joseph or whatever, I think he's really gone down since then.

[01:28:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And he's taken this like hands off hands off approach now where he just falls to the wayside.

[01:28:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't see him in a lot of conversations.

[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: It seemed like he just tried to remove himself so that people wouldn't look at him as a threat or question him.

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think instead it just made people not think about him.

[01:29:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was like Dave Vaughn or someone that said, never let the house, never let the house feel what it's like for you to be absent or feel what it's like to not have you there.

[01:29:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Because then it's easier for them to let you go.

[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that that's possibly what could happen with Joseph if he continues to do that.

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, even right before we came on this, he was in the pink room.

[01:29:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't know if he was sleeping, but he had his glasses on just by himself.

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And I want him to be more actively in conversations.

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Also, I didn't love last night.

[01:29:40] [SPEAKER_05]: He was talking with Lisa and Lisa, as she does, was interrogating him and asking him questions.

[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And he was giving her answers.

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, she's the one on the block, if anything.

[01:29:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And then when he would ask her stuff, Lisa would be like, I don't feel comfortable sharing that.

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, well, then you can use that back on her, like in a reverse and be like, well, I don't feel comfortable sharing that either.

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people thought that he had the power until NJ started telling people that.

[01:30:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And he wasn't even aware of the fact that he needed to play defense in that because he wasn't in those conversations or he didn't have anyone that was like really telling him that.

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So for Joseph, oh, what should I do with Joseph?

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I'm going to go five with Joseph because even though I don't think he's in a great spot, I also don't think anyone's targeting him right now.

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't know who would win HOH and make Joseph the target.

[01:30:40] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ might.

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, MJ.

[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, MJ.

[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, that's true.

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_05]: That's true.

[01:30:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I could see MJ doing that.

[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't know.

[01:30:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel I MJ might do it, but depending on who she puts up next to him, I don't know if I see him going.

[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, give him a five.

[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this is a tough one for me because.

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm I want to give him a five because I like Joseph.

[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph, I think he showed a lot of good game acumen last week when he was like borderline controlling Angela's HOH.

[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But he really got spooked.

[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_03]: He really got spooked.

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: He was one of the few players.

[01:31:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Him and Chelsea really had their foot on the gas week one because they were able to steer Angela until they weren't.

[01:31:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Until they found out that she is a fucking wild Bronco.

[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And he he got so spooked that he just he's just fallen back completely.

[01:31:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And if we're saying that Cam, Cedric and Chelsea might lose out on the structure and and fall behind,

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph would fall even further behind them to me because, yes, he might not be anybody's target right now other than MJ's.

[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ really does seem to want to target him.

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But he is a player who could get sniped just because he might be sitting next to somebody who people want to actually save.

[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And I I feel bad for him because I'm like, what happened, Joseph?

[01:32:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you you and Chelsea were like a final two last week.

[01:32:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Why are you not in her room?

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I get that Leah and McKenzie are up there a lot.

[01:32:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, me, if it were me, I'm parking in there, too, until they get the hit to leave.

[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_03]: The reason they're not leaving is because everybody is leaving it when they're in there.

[01:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I would I would I would have to make my presence felt especially I was the people like I was a person talking to you last week, Chelsea, when you didn't have a vote.

[01:33:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So why are you letting these two people who didn't care really about you last week, like, right, you know, like stay in your room and stuff.

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So, like, I just feel like he he got spooked.

[01:33:14] [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't want to seem like a strategic threat.

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So he took his I'm mixing all these metaphors.

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Where's Asia when you need her?

[01:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But he just took his foot off the gas.

[01:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's it's really bad because he doesn't he it doesn't look like he has the social bonds to fall back on like a Cedric would like a Chelsea would.

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_03]: If there is a house structure and they're on the outside of it.

[01:33:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't I don't know if he if he'll be able to if he'll be able to survive that like some other people would.

[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So because of that, I.

[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm really debating between a five and a four here.

[01:34:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll.

[01:34:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Is he a capable player?

[01:34:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't know if I have is it's so weird, right?

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Because.

[01:34:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he has the strategic chops.

[01:34:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Joseph knows so much about this game.

[01:34:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he can read the game really well.

[01:34:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he actually knows what's going on, but he's keeping it to himself again, because I think he's he's afraid to look like he's strategizing too much because I feel like he got caught out for caught out for that.

[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But him not having a number one.

[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_03]: We keep saying that like him not having a number one is not good.

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Chelsea getting closer to Brooklyn, Cam and Cedric, Leah and MJ, T-Core and Kimo, you know, Rubina and Tucker are basically a thing.

[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn and everybody else.

[01:34:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Kenny, the lone wolf.

[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like who can Joseph who can Joseph partner with who has the social capital to make his strategic moves happen?

[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Because last week, that's what it was looking like.

[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_03]: That was Angela.

[01:35:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:35:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But she just didn't want to be steered.

[01:35:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So.

[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I.

[01:35:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to give him a five.

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Begrudgingly, I'm going to give him a five.

[01:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But I just I feel I feel bad for him.

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_03]: He needs a HOH badly.

[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he needs a HOH badly.

[01:35:27] [SPEAKER_03]: If he could win this next HOH, I definitely think he could turn turn everything around.

[01:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But if he goes too long without power, he could definitely be be gone in the next two or three weeks.

[01:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the audience agrees with the two of you.

[01:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: They also gave Joseph a five.

[01:35:48] [SPEAKER_02]: For me, though, he's a pretty easy four.

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he's just been in such a.

[01:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: A not great spot.

[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's an easy person to nominate because he has no defenders.

[01:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He's an easy person to evict because he has no defenders.

[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And the people he's closest to are just not looping him into things.

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's all very bad for Joseph.

[01:36:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So he's really got to kick it into another gear.

[01:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think you're right.

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I think an HOH would be very good for him.

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But we will have to see if that ends up happening.

[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But in the meantime, he does average out to another five.

[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, another five.

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's just because I like him because like four was screaming at me.

[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But I really like Joseph and I really want to see him flex his strategic muscles.

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I would, too.

[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he came and he promised a lot in terms of entertainment.

[01:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And so far, not so much.

[01:36:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Not yet.

[01:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Not yet.

[01:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But maybe maybe soon.

[01:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, Mari.

[01:36:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Anything about Annie?

[01:36:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Let me say this.

[01:37:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me say this first because this is impacting my ratings.

[01:37:03] [SPEAKER_05]: OK.

[01:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you seen the latest?

[01:37:06] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I have not.

[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm seeing the comments.

[01:37:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But during this podcast, he is again begging to quit the game and leave.

[01:37:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you serious right now?

[01:37:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Stop.

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I was about to make a good case for him.

[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Now I don't think I can.

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I felt the same way, QT.

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Ditto.

[01:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, well, yeah, I got to give him a one.

[01:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Sir.

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: OK.

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: OK.

[01:37:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The quote from Hamster Watch was, I don't know if 750K is worth it.

[01:37:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, what?

[01:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He's insane.

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This man.

[01:37:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Go home.

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Go home, sir.

[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Got got got to give him a one.

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's the only the only thing that that even remotely buoys him up is the fact

[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_03]: that he won the veto.

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he won the veto.

[01:38:00] [SPEAKER_03]: If he hadn't won the veto, it's I mean, it's not like it's going in.

[01:38:04] [SPEAKER_03]: We can't give zeros and it's not going up at all.

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just like.

[01:38:09] [SPEAKER_03]: He won the veto.

[01:38:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So so you won the veto, but you still want to go home.

[01:38:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I think he didn't realize what he was signing up for.

[01:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he does not mesh with anybody in the house.

[01:38:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But the funny thing is, we heard two different conversations where it was like Quinn talking

[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_03]: to the cameras talking about maybe I can bring any in.

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_03]: T-Core and Kimo talking about maybe we can try and reach out to Kenny just in case like

[01:38:35] [SPEAKER_03]: people are actually considering like bringing him in stuff.

[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And each time they try, he's like, I'm a lonely wolf.

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's like actively like just trying to stay in the position that he's in.

[01:38:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And now he's still saying he wants to leave the game.

[01:38:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to make this long.

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a one.

[01:38:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's a one.

[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_02]: The audience, even without knowing that, still gave him a two.

[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm going to give him a one.

[01:39:03] [SPEAKER_02]: What I'm what I'm reading is that he's basically said, like, you know, if I don't win HOH, I want to leave.

[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So dumb.

[01:39:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, fine.

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Good.

[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Good.

[01:39:16] [SPEAKER_03]: We actually next.

[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

[01:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's in a perfectly fine position at this point.

[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But if he's trying to quit, I'm not going to give him anything other than one.

[01:39:24] [SPEAKER_02]: That's that's how I feel.

[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to go into this telling you guys what I was going to give Kenny.

[01:39:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to give Kenny a four because, yeah, that sounds crazy.

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_05]: But I was starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel with Kenny because I think it was Maggie that might have said it last week.

[01:39:46] [SPEAKER_05]: But usually people that don't have power keep losing stuff and are on the block or like, yeah, I want to go home, whatever.

[01:39:52] [SPEAKER_05]: But then once they get a little bit of power, win a veto, win an HOH, all of a sudden that like kickstarts their game and then they have a little bit more motivation to start playing.

[01:40:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And I thought that perhaps that could be Kenny.

[01:40:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, even after he got veto, we're not seeing too much from him.

[01:40:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But we were starting to see that people were noticing he was a lone wolf and feeling like, well, maybe we can pull Kenny into something.

[01:40:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And because of that, I saw him having maybe a little bit of a better game.

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And I thought that maybe he still wanted to be there.

[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And again, I saw him as like a project that could be worked on and could do well.

[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_05]: So I was feeling a little bit better with him.

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Also, this is like besides the gameplay on one.

[01:40:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was the recap episode after the second episode of Big Brother.

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I said that there would probably be nothing worse than marrying someone because of their love for Big Brother,

[01:40:46] [SPEAKER_05]: because they started watching Big Brother for me and then they get on the show.

[01:40:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So now there's nothing worse than your husband getting on the show that you've loved and then wanting to quit, like not even doing anything with him.

[01:40:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I would divorce immediately.

[01:41:03] [SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, I give Kenny a one.

[01:41:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I see what you're saying there.

[01:41:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even Vanessa Russo cried the first week.

[01:41:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So I get it.

[01:41:14] [SPEAKER_03]: We've had people who've had a bad like, but he's still just.

[01:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not even good at quitting the game.

[01:41:22] [SPEAKER_02]: He won the veto this week and used it on himself.

[01:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's move on to Kimo.

[01:41:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And I believe we will start with the audience for Kimo.

[01:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: The audience gave Kimo the highest rating so far.

[01:41:42] [SPEAKER_02]: A seven.

[01:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Seven for Kimo from the audience.

[01:41:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I am inclined to agree with the seven.

[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I really like Kimo.

[01:41:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I like his position right now.

[01:41:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that and I've said this for the last couple of days.

[01:42:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that Kimo is him and T-Core are kind of like in the driver's seat right now.

[01:42:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The only question is like, how much are they driving?

[01:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: How much do they recognize the driving position that they are in?

[01:42:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that he is insulated enough from Quinn that even if Quinn blows up, it's fine for Kimo.

[01:42:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He still has plenty of options.

[01:42:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the only thing I have for Kimo is that it feels.

[01:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, even here, it's like I feel like T-Core is being a bit more active.

[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And I like what T-Core is doing a lot in terms of building things.

[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But that also gives her a bit more exposure.

[01:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And she's being looked at as a target a little bit more.

[01:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And her name is being said a little bit more than Kimo's is.

[01:42:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody loves Kimo.

[01:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody loves T-Core as well.

[01:42:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think Kimo is like, he has a chance to just get put in this spot where he's just so insulated from so many different angles.

[01:43:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that I'm still hopeful for with Kimo is that he knows the game better than most people in that house.

[01:43:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And nobody realizes that.

[01:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He has that cutthroat gear in him.

[01:43:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I love the fact that he still hasn't told T-Core about Quinn's power.

[01:43:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I love the fact that he has been able to keep a lot of these secrets.

[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It makes me really feel like he has a gear in him that we haven't seen yet.

[01:43:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And so while he's being actively put in these situations and actively putting himself into these situations, I think there's still a ton of potential here for Kimo.

[01:43:39] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think for me, it's a seven.

[01:43:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm excited to see where Kimo goes from here.

[01:43:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I agree.

[01:43:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm excited to see what he does now that he's I mean, he wasn't on the block this week and we saw him get a little bit better maybe in the game and in a better position.

[01:43:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I do agree.

[01:43:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Him and T-Core are like in the driver's seat, whether they know it or not.

[01:44:04] [SPEAKER_05]: But my only thing is, I feel like T-Core might recognize that more than Kimo does.

[01:44:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I really don't think Kimo realizes how great of a position he's in.

[01:44:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I'm curious to see what he will do with this as the weeks go on.

[01:44:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd love to see him get an H.O.H. honestly.

[01:44:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I don't know if he even really needs it, but I could see him.

[01:44:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this week he had a week off the block, but I could see a scenario where he becomes that person that's just always the pawn for some people.

[01:44:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, depending on who wins H.O.H. next week, I think I can see him as a pawn again and that might start the be like the catalyst of it happening week after week.

[01:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, because I really thought that after last week, he was such like almost like a perfect pawn where if you want someone else to get out, just put Kimo up next to them.

[01:44:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so if people recognize that they might start to do that with him, which makes me feel a little bit lower on him.

[01:44:59] [SPEAKER_05]: But, um, I do agree that he's very well insulated.

[01:45:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I love how much he knows the game and in a way that's different than a lot of super fans that we see, like a Frenchie where they just kind of go crazy and try to do everything that they've ever seen on the show happen all within one week.

[01:45:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I like that he's playing a little bit more slowly, um, while still understanding what's happening.

[01:45:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I think, what am I going to give Kimo?

[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I'm still going to go six for Kimo instead of a seven.

[01:45:37] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like a 6.4 though, you know, like almost, almost a 6.5, almost a seven.

[01:45:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I just, it's just because I don't think he realizes how great of a position he's in.

[01:45:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and I think that he could be even better once he does realize that maybe by next week he will start to.

[01:45:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, I'm excited to see where he goes from here.

[01:46:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't know if, if I fully agree with that assessment because, uh, Kimo and T-Core were strategy, strategizing.

[01:46:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was like late last night about their, they're like, okay, how do we get ourselves further?

[01:46:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And they identified that like, okay, maybe we need to attach ourselves to the people who are out there a little bit more.

[01:46:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then they also started counting up the people that they had, you know what I'm saying?

[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they realized that they are in a good position because they are, they are linked to a lot of people.

[01:46:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And even Kimo said, Kimo said, yes, we are working with a lot of people, but we need to solidify something.

[01:46:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So both him and T-Core said, uh, I'm pretty sure it was last night, uh, that they're like, we need to win this HOH so that we can solidify, um, an alliance so we can, um, make this thing happen.

[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So they realized that they have a lot of people in their corner and, and that, um, they're in a good position.

[01:47:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But, and they also realized that they haven't solidified it yet.

[01:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So just being able to realize that you are, you are in a good position, you haven't solidified something, but you want to solidify something I think is kind of like heads above a lot of these people, a lot of people.

[01:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, do they think they're running the game?

[01:47:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a Matt thought he was in the game?

[01:47:35] [SPEAKER_03]: No, they don't.

[01:47:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But the, both of them are very astute with, um, seeing where the pieces are and seeing how fluid the house is and seeing that, uh, that there's nothing really structured going on.

[01:47:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I, I think Kimo's in a great position and like Taryn said, he's really, really insulated, really well insulated.

[01:48:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's coming after him.

[01:48:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I think what Kenny said that he might put them up on the block, uh, with, with Joseph and Quinn, maybe.

[01:48:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't see him getting sniped.

[01:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: He is in this, the visionaries, which could become a solid power structure.

[01:48:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm going to give him, I think I said seven.

[01:48:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to give, I kind of want to give him an eight, but I'll give him a seven.

[01:48:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll give him a seven.

[01:48:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'll give him a seven.

[01:48:36] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like my favorite player.

[01:48:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I, I think, I think he earned this position.

[01:48:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he, he earned this position and he barely even like showed, I think a third of what he can actually do being a super fan of the game.

[01:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I love it.

[01:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait.

[01:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope it just continues to go up.

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, huge comeback and huge swing for Kimo who was on the block last week, uh, ahead of four and now is up to a seven.

[01:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.

[01:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's then talk about Leah.

[01:49:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I mean, okay.

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Leah went from basically like the hottest commodity on the market.

[01:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like everyone wanted to pull Leah into their alliance to like the, like the, the, the person that nobody wants anything to do.

[01:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody is talking about working with Leah, pulling Leah in, uh, to, to any degree at this point.

[01:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's almost like she needed the outlet of like Matt and Mackenzie to, uh, to like soak up some of the stuff that, uh, was not working for her socially so that people could sort of envision what they wanted in Leah.

[01:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, because, uh, in the meantime, it's just not working out very well.

[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so, uh, I think, uh, I mean, I don't think it's, I don't think it's disastrous.

[01:50:11] [SPEAKER_02]: She still has some allies.

[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_02]: She's less McKenzie.

[01:50:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but man, even like even this group that she's forming, like Chelsea, uh, Rubina, uh, like these people don't even like her that much.

[01:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so, uh, you know, the, the guy she's going after and Tucker really doesn't like her.

[01:50:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, the guy she's trying to reject and Cam is like, uh, not even, doesn't have much swing.

[01:50:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I have to give her a four.

[01:50:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:50:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like Leah gets like a nine on the love Island stock watch, but maybe not this one.

[01:50:47] [SPEAKER_05]: She's like, I don't even think she cares about the game that much.

[01:50:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Like even when Quinn told her in the beginning of this week that, um, like how people were feeling about her and it seemed like she was active for like a second.

[01:51:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And she got close to Chelsea, which was great.

[01:51:04] [SPEAKER_05]: She's good with HOH kind of got herself off the block, which I think is more of a mistake from Chelsea than it's a testament to like how great Leah's game is.

[01:51:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, just overall, like she's, I feel like just cares more about getting Tucker to love her than anything else.

[01:51:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and I, I, it's so crazy that it's similar to her showman's not showman's cam where she doesn't even recognize that Tucker doesn't like her cam doesn't recognize that Leah doesn't like him.

[01:51:35] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like this love triangle that's like discombobulated and not even a triangle.

[01:51:40] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like falling apart.

[01:51:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So similar to how I feel about cam where that, because he doesn't recognize that Leah doesn't like him.

[01:51:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I also don't think he recognizes how other people feel about him in the game sense.

[01:51:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's similar to Leah.

[01:51:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and I really do think she's in like the same kind of position as cam again.

[01:52:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I guess she has MJ, but even MJ is pretty low.

[01:52:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, for like most people in the house, I, people group Mackenzie and Leah together.

[01:52:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think as a duo, people don't really love them that much or feel like a little bit more down on them.

[01:52:20] [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, even having her number one ally being MJ is not great.

[01:52:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So she also had like a great thing going with Quinn.

[01:52:29] [SPEAKER_05]: She could have, even if it didn't end up being something romantic, like just having that connection she had with him.

[01:52:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And he's in such a great spot as of right now, um, for her to just let that go is crazy.

[01:52:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to also give Leah a four, very low four.

[01:52:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, I'm going to give her a four.

[01:52:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to waver on that.

[01:52:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, like Leah is going to be one of those people.

[01:52:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think Leah is very lucky that they're living in a house with Angela and Lisa, because without the two of them there, I could see that the annoying meter then lands on Leah.

[01:53:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, cause even the audience, I've never seen the audience flip on somebody like as quickly.

[01:53:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like last week it was a lot of the yes, Queens.

[01:53:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And this week is like, oh my God, Leah is such an intention seeker.

[01:53:22] [SPEAKER_03]: What is going on?

[01:53:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah, I just, I, I don't know, man.

[01:53:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why it's not working.

[01:53:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so weird.

[01:53:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:53:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like week one.

[01:53:35] [SPEAKER_03]: She, people loved hanging around with her.

[01:53:37] [SPEAKER_03]: She was like the class clown and, and everybody wanted to scoop her up.

[01:53:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And, and this week it's hard for us to watch her on the feeds.

[01:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it feels like the, even the house is sick of all of this love triangle stuff.

[01:53:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's like, she's a bachelorette or something.

[01:53:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:53:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like, I think it's kind of hard to like, listen to somebody go like, ah, which

[01:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: of these like three beautiful men should I choose?

[01:54:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:54:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And that'd be it.

[01:54:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Like the only thing she talks about all day.

[01:54:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's, I don't know, man.

[01:54:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, sorry to her.

[01:54:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[01:54:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Like her and cam just checked out of the game this week.

[01:54:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, but I mean to be with each other, like it's, you know, like they both checked out,

[01:54:21] [SPEAKER_05]: but not to be in a showman's land of their own.

[01:54:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Like she doesn't even crazy.

[01:54:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's, but I mean, she, she put in enough work at the beginning of the week.

[01:54:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you said that she's not like that.

[01:54:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea, even though Chelsea wants to put her up, she, she isn't.

[01:54:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And that might be again, more akin to what MJ, because of MJ's power and Chelsea not wanting

[01:54:41] [SPEAKER_03]: to really make MJ mad.

[01:54:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah, I think Leah is very lucky that Chelsea is the HOH this week.

[01:54:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm, I'm like trying, I'm looking at other people's names and I'm like, there's, she

[01:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: can very much end up on, on the black as like that third nominee to be, and be told she's

[01:54:59] [SPEAKER_03]: the pawn and everybody loves you.

[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's going to vote you out situation.

[01:55:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:55:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[01:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the audience also gave Leah four.

[01:55:11] [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[01:55:13] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[01:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on to Lisa.

[01:55:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Then QT, how do you feel about Lisa?

[01:55:18] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, here we go.

[01:55:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's sprinkle a little glitter on it.

[01:55:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[01:55:22] [SPEAKER_05]: So here's my thing with Lisa.

[01:55:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like, okay, let's compare Lisa to Kenny.

[01:55:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Even though Kenny is actively trying to get himself out of the game.

[01:55:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I think Lisa is as well, but she doesn't even realize that she is like every conversation she

[01:55:39] [SPEAKER_05]: has with someone is so bad.

[01:55:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It's horrible.

[01:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone thinks that she has the power and she doesn't, and she doesn't do a good job

[01:55:48] [SPEAKER_05]: of convincing them that she doesn't.

[01:55:50] [SPEAKER_05]: But she also is very reactive.

[01:55:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And I understand trying to clear your name of stuff, but I think there's a certain way

[01:55:57] [SPEAKER_05]: to do it, especially in the game of Big Brother.

[01:55:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And she does not do a great job of it.

[01:56:01] [SPEAKER_05]: She just interrogates people and tries to get them to tell her stuff.

[01:56:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that she feels like she's doing it in a therapist sense where people will talk

[01:56:10] [SPEAKER_05]: and she'll be like, okay, okay, okay.

[01:56:12] [SPEAKER_05]: But it just comes off very cold and makes people not like her.

[01:56:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I think even more.

[01:56:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Also, it seems like she's going home this week.

[01:56:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what's crazy too, is that Angela is doing all of this stuff that should be shifting

[01:56:26] [SPEAKER_05]: the target to Angela than Lisa.

[01:56:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But people don't like Lisa so much and have so many reasons to vote her out that it's the

[01:56:33] [SPEAKER_05]: target is still being Lisa.

[01:56:36] [SPEAKER_05]: People don't think she's a cook.

[01:56:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, what could you do worse?

[01:56:40] [SPEAKER_05]: In this game, no one believes that your job is your job when it actually is.

[01:56:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And like, it's just a mess.

[01:56:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a whole mess.

[01:56:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh.

[01:56:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Like my heart really wants to give Lisa a one, but because I still want to give her a

[01:56:58] [SPEAKER_05]: one though, but because she's not actively trying to get out the game like Kenny is,

[01:57:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, should I give her two?

[01:57:05] [SPEAKER_05]: But I also feel like say her and Kenny were still in the game next week.

[01:57:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Like Lisa's still the target over Kenny, even though Kenny wants to leave.

[01:57:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I think.

[01:57:14] [SPEAKER_05]: So what should I do?

[01:57:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Two or one?

[01:57:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.

[01:57:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Go what you got.

[01:57:23] I know.

[01:57:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I think.

[01:57:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[01:57:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I'm going to give Lisa a one.

[01:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[01:57:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I wanted to be like, I'm not going to hold you.

[01:57:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna give her a one too.

[01:57:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But the funny thing is she, she actually really wants to be there.

[01:57:50] [SPEAKER_03]: She still wants to fight.

[01:57:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like she has a good shot at the AI arena.

[01:57:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.

[01:57:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:57:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.

[01:58:00] [SPEAKER_03]: She, she, she, and the funny thing is her game literally just comes down to the fact

[01:58:07] [SPEAKER_03]: that she's just not a good person to live with.

[01:58:11] [SPEAKER_03]: In a sense, like, you know what I'm saying?

[01:58:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's just like people don't like to be around her, which is so unfortunate.

[01:58:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, while considering her job is curating vibes.

[01:58:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[01:58:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And the vibe she tried to curate in the have not room by rubbing stuff on people's pillows.

[01:58:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't you don't ever do that to anybody.

[01:58:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I would, I probably would have thrown hands over that.

[01:58:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to lie.

[01:58:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I do not touch my stuff.

[01:58:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm, I'm going to just give her a one.

[01:58:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It, it, cause it does not matter.

[01:58:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause like QT said, yes, you give her a one, you give her a two.

[01:58:45] [SPEAKER_03]: If she, she goes, she goes, she's more, she's the most likely to go this week.

[01:58:49] [SPEAKER_03]: If she stays, she's just going to be targeted again.

[01:58:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but she also does.

[01:58:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they all, everybody's we're seeing that everybody has a good chance of winning

[01:59:00] [SPEAKER_03]: AI arena.

[01:59:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Then HOH.

[01:59:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[01:59:02] [SPEAKER_03]: If she won HOH.

[01:59:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no.

[01:59:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Crack.

[01:59:05] [SPEAKER_03]: If she, oh my gosh, she won HOH next week.

[01:59:08] [SPEAKER_03]: That would be so funny.

[01:59:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, it's a one.

[01:59:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.

[01:59:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.

[01:59:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever happens, happens.

[01:59:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Moon dust.

[01:59:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.

[01:59:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Moon water.

[01:59:21] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[01:59:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the audience gave her a two and I'm going to as well.

[01:59:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give Lisa two.

[01:59:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I do not think she is as bad as Angela, uh, at the game at the moment.

[01:59:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think she does have some supporters.

[01:59:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I think she got a little unlucky in how, uh, unlucky is maybe a generous way of phrasing

[01:59:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it, but like, there's not always a Tucker in there to be so adamantly pushing the Lisa target,

[01:59:50] [SPEAKER_02]: even if you do piss him off.

[01:59:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, uh, and I do think she's genuinely trying, which again is kind of like more than

[01:59:58] [SPEAKER_02]: you can say for somebody like Kenny.

[01:59:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and so I don't know.

[02:00:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I, I'll, I'll give her the two.

[02:00:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she's, uh, you know, maybe the most likely person to leave this week at this point,

[02:00:09] [SPEAKER_02]: but, uh, you know, I've given two ones already.

[02:00:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, all right, let's move on to MJ, AKA McKenzie.

[02:00:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Maury, how do you feel about MJ?

[02:00:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, MJ, I don't feel that she's improved her positioning within the house.

[02:00:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It almost feels like, like this week just kind of put like her game on pause in a sense,

[02:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: like Chelsea, just Chelsea doesn't want to be the one to, to, to make the first move on MJ.

[02:00:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, her telling people about her power or her power getting out, um, might be the,

[02:00:53] [SPEAKER_03]: the best thing that she did this week.

[02:00:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think it was intentional.

[02:00:56] [SPEAKER_03]: She told Chelsea, she told Chelsea because she wanted to get closer to Chelsea.

[02:01:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that was good.

[02:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I, that was like the best thing she could do this week.

[02:01:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And then once Kenny won veto her, like kind of intentionally, not intentionally, um,

[02:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: letting the rest of the house know was good.

[02:01:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was like a really good move, but I still don't think she meant it.

[02:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of like, um, but like, I think you guys said it on the round table or the,

[02:01:31] [SPEAKER_03]: not the round table, the, um, the live feeds.

[02:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: If she used it as a weapon now, it could be better.

[02:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but she's just kind of like, yeah, yeah, I guess.

[02:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, is her standing in the house better?

[02:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I, I don't think it is.

[02:01:51] [SPEAKER_03]: There's nobody in the house saying they want to work with her.

[02:01:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[02:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like there's, they're outside of her and Leah, like nobody's saying like, yeah, let's pull an MJ.

[02:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's, you know, that I, I forget that she's in the house when it comes to like other people's

[02:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: conversations, Joseph's, T-Core's, Quinn's, uh, like Kemos, like nobody feels like they're trying

[02:02:13] [SPEAKER_03]: to really pull her in or make something, make something out of her.

[02:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And her and Leah kind of retreat into this bubble.

[02:02:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So the women, they did try, they are trying to make this women's alliance thing, but I mean,

[02:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: it's, it's, I'm gonna give her, I'm gonna give her a five.

[02:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: She has a power.

[02:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, there's, there's just so many house targets at this point that she, and if people know

[02:02:43] [SPEAKER_03]: about her power and treat it like this week, like we're Chelsea, like they're too afraid

[02:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: to flesh it out like Chelsea was, then she has at least, at least two to three more weeks

[02:02:53] [SPEAKER_03]: left.

[02:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe she could win some clutch competitions.

[02:02:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So like socially, she's not well positioned, but I, I think having the power, being a capable

[02:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: person, she has her number one.

[02:03:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a five.

[02:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not an exciting five though.

[02:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's, it's just a, like you're here.

[02:03:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the audience gave Mackenzie four.

[02:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:03:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I was teetering.

[02:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly.

[02:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you though.

[02:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I gave her a five.

[02:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I, I think her, I think her position has improved.

[02:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think she's played like amazingly this week, but she's played way better than

[02:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: last week.

[02:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, which is again, like not exactly a leap.

[02:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, like, uh, so, um, but the power should give her probably two more weeks of safety

[02:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: guaranteed, uh, at worst, one more week of safety guaranteed.

[02:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and that gives her a lot of time to continue to make inroads potentially with the next HOH

[02:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that wins and also doesn't put her on the block because they also don't want to piss her

[02:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: off.

[02:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And that gives her another opportunity to bond with a different person.

[02:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, uh, I think she's done a good job with Chelsea.

[02:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I think honestly, at this point, weirdly, it's, it's weird that it's this way because

[02:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: we thought it was going to be the opposite, but weirdly right now, Leah is her anchor.

[02:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, and the person kind of holding her back from fully reintegrating into the house.

[02:04:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:04:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[02:04:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I agree.

[02:04:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm also going to give Mackenzie a five.

[02:04:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, because last week her getting a four made sense.

[02:04:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And I do think she's in a better position this week with Matt gone.

[02:04:39] [SPEAKER_05]: She's integrated herself a little bit more into the structure of things.

[02:04:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, using that power, um, to like garner trust with people was good.

[02:04:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, again, I don't think she intentionally used it in a way that got her to this place,

[02:04:58] [SPEAKER_05]: but it did.

[02:04:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think she's in a good position.

[02:05:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the power being able to save her now that so many people know about it too, like

[02:05:05] [SPEAKER_05]: no, one's going to be looking to put her on the block, um, because of it.

[02:05:10] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that saves her a lot.

[02:05:11] [SPEAKER_05]: So I, I think she gets a five, but not, not solely because of things that she's doing intentionally,

[02:05:19] [SPEAKER_05]: just kind of how things fell for her with having the power and what that did for her when she

[02:05:26] [SPEAKER_05]: told people about it.

[02:05:27] [SPEAKER_05]: So I give her a five, but I'm still like hesitant to say that she's a good player yet.

[02:05:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to see how she moves with the next HOH.

[02:05:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But, um, I think it's a good point that she could do the same thing she did with Chelsea

[02:05:43] [SPEAKER_05]: with the next person.

[02:05:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And if she continues to do that, she does start to, um, get more allies in the game.

[02:05:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that's good for her, but yeah, I don't know.

[02:05:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I, I also think that the Mackenzie Leah of it all, where people group them together and

[02:05:59] [SPEAKER_05]: don't really love them.

[02:06:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think that's good for her.

[02:06:03] [SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like middle five is justifiable.

[02:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[02:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's move on then to Quinn.

[02:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the audience gave Quinn a six this week down from the seven last week.

[02:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I agree with the audience here.

[02:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think that miss that Quinn has made some mistakes, obviously in terms of who he's revealing

[02:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: information to this whole thing with Leah, he's already admitted has kind of backfired in,

[02:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: into his face to some degree now, luckily not significantly.

[02:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So, and I actually do think it could end up being beneficial.

[02:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, if only he had just told her less information, uh, he would be fine.

[02:06:47] [SPEAKER_02]: He would be like well insulated.

[02:06:49] [SPEAKER_02]: If he hadn't told her that he had a final two with Quinn or with chemo, uh, like that

[02:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: would have been great.

[02:06:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but, uh, but she is like running defense for him on in the women's Alliance thing

[02:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: for pitching him to be involved in the women's Alliance thing, which certainly helps.

[02:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: He is still being included in basically everything conceivable, uh, to exist in the house, which

[02:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: is great for him.

[02:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it just does feel like there's, there's like a timer on this that, uh, Angela is trying

[02:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: to get him out at his having the power, which means that if he wants to keep it a secret,

[02:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: he has to like, be careful about how he uses it, but it is still a very powerful power.

[02:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He's still very involved in the main power structures of the house.

[02:07:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, this is, I think a, like a weird week for him, but there's still tons of potential.

[02:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He just needs to heal a little bit with the revealing info, uh, and start, uh, doing more

[02:07:43] [SPEAKER_02]: maintenance on some of the allies that he has, I think currently taking for granted.

[02:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, that's kind of how I feel about Quinn.

[02:07:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. I think that I, I just want Quinn to like slow down for a second or just like not

[02:07:58] [SPEAKER_05]: say so much to everyone.

[02:07:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I think where he's at right now, it could be perfect for him.

[02:08:03] [SPEAKER_05]: He has this power.

[02:08:04] [SPEAKER_05]: He's starting, um, the visionaries is that what it's called?

[02:08:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, he's starting the visionaries.

[02:08:10] [SPEAKER_05]: That could be great.

[02:08:11] [SPEAKER_05]: If one of them gets power, especially I think where he's at right now, he's gotten himself

[02:08:16] [SPEAKER_05]: to this great spot, but I'm scared that some things that he's already done might come,

[02:08:21] [SPEAKER_05]: um, to hurt him in the next few weeks.

[02:08:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Like if Angela does end up just saying it's Quinn to everyone that hurts him.

[02:08:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, if, um, what's it called?

[02:08:34] [SPEAKER_05]: The chemo even knows about his power.

[02:08:35] [SPEAKER_05]: He's told Leah so much.

[02:08:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I think he's just told too many people, too many things at the beginning of this game.

[02:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And if he would have just held that in, um, I think it would have set him up a little

[02:08:46] [SPEAKER_05]: bit better.

[02:08:47] [SPEAKER_05]: But as of right now, no one, even the people that know things about him are not saying anything

[02:08:53] [SPEAKER_05]: about it.

[02:08:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Minus Angela, who no one even believes anyway.

[02:08:56] [SPEAKER_05]: So even if she said, I mean, we've seen, she's told Tucker that she knows it's him and

[02:09:01] [SPEAKER_05]: he still doesn't believe it.

[02:09:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't think that's going to hurt him too much, but I think there are a few things

[02:09:06] [SPEAKER_05]: that could hurt him.

[02:09:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but again, if I'm thinking about where his position is right now, I think he's in

[02:09:12] [SPEAKER_05]: a really good position.

[02:09:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I'm also going to give Quinn a six.

[02:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[02:09:17] [SPEAKER_02]: The thing about like Quinn's power is that no, nobody's believing Angela right now, though

[02:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: they could start believing.

[02:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[02:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But the key here is that he is no longer able to use his power and remain anonymous because

[02:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Angela knew exactly what it was.

[02:09:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So the second he uses it, everybody will immediately realize, oh, Angela was telling the truth.

[02:09:37] [SPEAKER_02]: How could she have known if not for Quinn telling her?

[02:09:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and so he can no longer use it anonymously is basically the biggest thing that's happened.

[02:09:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Can he try and push it on to Angela and be like, but everyone knows that McKenzie has the

[02:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: power in their group.

[02:09:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:09:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot.

[02:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot.

[02:09:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[02:09:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah.

[02:09:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's screwed then.

[02:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I mean, I'm gonna give him a six because it just feels like a house of cards.

[02:10:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It all feels like a house of cards.

[02:10:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It feels like his foundation on his house of cards was not great because he made a lot

[02:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: of a few mistakes, like spilling the wrong information to the wrong people.

[02:10:16] [SPEAKER_03]: He's been steadily building, steadily building his house of cards.

[02:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It was really good structured with the visionaries coming, coming in and trying to see a clear

[02:10:23] [SPEAKER_03]: path for his game.

[02:10:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's like that foundation was weak and that foundation and all of those mistakes that

[02:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: he made in the beginning might be his, his downfall.

[02:10:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's very, it's looking very shaky right now, but it can go either way.

[02:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not doom or gloom.

[02:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like, oh my God, he, he, he really messed up.

[02:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, you know, some chickens are coming home to roost and hopefully he just, he doesn't

[02:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: come out to, to skate.

[02:10:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[02:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, all right.

[02:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's then move on to Rubina, uh, who I thought had a great week this week, especially the last

[02:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: couple of days, I think have gone well for her.

[02:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, she is being more active in the strategy, which I think is great.

[02:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, she's being involved in this visionaries thing.

[02:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: She's still connected to the, uh, the women's Alliance thing.

[02:11:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, she's not like at the top of these structures.

[02:11:25] [SPEAKER_02]: She still doesn't have a lot of like pull and I actually don't love that.

[02:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: She's potentially letting go of Brooklyn, uh, to, to make this visionaries thing.

[02:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that if she was bringing Brooklyn in, I'd feel really good about her.

[02:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but as it is, she's a little isolated there.

[02:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, a little outnumbered by T-Core and, uh, Kimo, who I think will happily use her as a,

[02:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: what she might think is their third, but is really like one of their extra ones over in the side.

[02:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I really like the progress.

[02:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that like last week I was like, Rubina is either going to move up or she's going to move

[02:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: down.

[02:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think this week for me, she definitively moved up to a six.

[02:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think she, she even has room to go higher for me.

[02:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's just, but I, but I think for now she's like a very solid, steady six.

[02:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and she's probably not dropping from here unless something dramatic changes.

[02:12:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[02:12:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I think she's gotten herself to an amazing position.

[02:12:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, even though I, I like what she's saying about like, I wish I did more research about

[02:12:31] [SPEAKER_05]: this because I think she could have been in a better position, but at least she recognizes

[02:12:35] [SPEAKER_05]: that and realizes that where I think a lot of other people in the game right now, um, like

[02:12:40] [SPEAKER_05]: we were kind of saying earlier, they'll believe something and then just act on it completely

[02:12:44] [SPEAKER_05]: and go full force.

[02:12:46] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think because she doesn't, because she knows that she doesn't know the game that

[02:12:51] [SPEAKER_05]: well, she's willing to kind of maneuver and shift with whatever's happening in the house.

[02:12:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I think that it's, it almost reminds me of like a DX in a way where she comes in,

[02:13:02] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe not knowing as much about the game as everyone else, but then finds her footing.

[02:13:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think she could really do very well.

[02:13:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I'm going to give her a six this week too, but I, I could only see her going up from

[02:13:12] [SPEAKER_05]: here cause she's in a great position.

[02:13:14] [SPEAKER_05]: No one's really targeting her.

[02:13:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, she, she's setting herself up to be in the power structure, wherever the power structure

[02:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: goes.

[02:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people want to include her in things.

[02:13:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and then hopefully this visionary thing does do well, even if it doesn't, I still think

[02:13:31] [SPEAKER_05]: she's in a good position.

[02:13:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think, um, it's a very high six for me because it's not as, um, it's not as it's

[02:13:42] [SPEAKER_05]: not hinging on what happens next week.

[02:13:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I think she still is in a good position, no matter what, where a few other people, their

[02:13:49] [SPEAKER_05]: score kind of hinges on what happens in the weeks to come.

[02:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I think she's going to continue to cruise and then hopefully do even better.

[02:13:57] [SPEAKER_05]: But I really like where she is right now.

[02:13:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Last week, I wasn't sure.

[02:14:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I felt like she kept getting kind of lost in the sauce of it all.

[02:14:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and I didn't know if she was getting a good footing of the game, but I think she

[02:14:08] [SPEAKER_05]: really is now.

[02:14:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I love that she's getting close with T core and they're able to have these really good

[02:14:12] [SPEAKER_05]: conversations, game talks.

[02:14:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and they're kind of like sounding boards for each other and they're both very smart.

[02:14:18] [SPEAKER_05]: So, um, I think together them and chemo can go really far in the game.

[02:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I have nothing to add.

[02:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You guys hit the nail on the head.

[02:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I will give her a six as well.

[02:14:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been actually amazing to watch her evolve from just, just the social threat to somebody

[02:14:39] [SPEAKER_03]: who was like actively in the game.

[02:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, she just like somebody like flipped the switch and she's like, Oh yeah, let's go.

[02:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's game.

[02:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like, it's just actively seeing her be more comfortable gaming.

[02:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So I love that.

[02:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait to see what else she does.

[02:14:52] Yeah.

[02:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[02:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: The audience agrees with us.

[02:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: They also gave Rubina a six, uh, QT.

[02:14:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Tell us about T core.

[02:15:00] [SPEAKER_05]: T core, my crochet queen, my sister.

[02:15:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I love T core as a person first and foremost.

[02:15:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but I will say I, I'm going to give her a little bit of a higher score, but it's really

[02:15:16] [SPEAKER_05]: based on like last night and today before last night, I was, uh, feeling similar to the chemo

[02:15:23] [SPEAKER_05]: thing where I thought she was there like in a pretty good spot, but not really recognizing

[02:15:28] [SPEAKER_05]: it or not really doing anything to further it.

[02:15:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I know that they're like waiting to have some kind of power and hopefully get an HOH,

[02:15:36] [SPEAKER_05]: but I also do like that, that she recognizes that they do need power.

[02:15:40] [SPEAKER_05]: They to solidify something.

[02:15:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I think she's in a great position.

[02:15:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone really loves her.

[02:15:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm, uh, gonna give T core a seven.

[02:15:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause I think she's in one of the best spots in the house right now.

[02:15:56] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[02:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[02:15:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to give T core an eight because she.

[02:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so funny because it was like last week we were like, what are T core and chemo doing?

[02:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: They are, they are laying so low.

[02:16:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[02:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Like people are gaming around them.

[02:16:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Do they know what's going on?

[02:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And this week, um, once Quinn let T core in on the Pentagon and that, uh, cam Cedric and Chelsea were core.

[02:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it really made T core, um, open up the possibilities.

[02:16:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, what if last year Mimi found out that the Brown sugar babes weren't the only like thing they had.

[02:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she, or, or should I say Mimi acted on knowing that, uh, Brown sugar babes wasn't, was the only alliance.

[02:16:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Like T core was like, oh, I bet, you know, and she goes out and she starts working.

[02:16:57] [SPEAKER_03]: She already had these bonds with people, but she starts flexing those bonds game wise to the, to the point where she is actively forming a, a structure.

[02:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: One of the only structures in the house.

[02:17:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I don't know.

[02:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like they have the scaffolding for the building, but they haven't built it yet.

[02:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but T core is one of the main people who are driving it.

[02:17:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Her and chemo are like, we got to get this done.

[02:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Her chemo and Quinn all realize what's happening, what's going on.

[02:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: They're approaching people where they are still the, the core of it, but also approaching people like Rubina, who is really like T core.

[02:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I got you.

[02:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[02:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker, it, Tucker and T core have, um, maintained a really good friendship and stuff like that.

[02:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like T core really woke up and in a way that is still like, it doesn't feel frenzied.

[02:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't feel overly strategic.

[02:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Joseph, uh, like Joseph could come off as it just feels like, oh, T core is being genuine with me.

[02:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And also she wants to talk game and now I feel really good about her.

[02:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, now we are really building something solid.

[02:18:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this Alliance can be it.

[02:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So I, I think she's doing it in a way that is both intentional and just her natural charisma.

[02:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And the fact that she, all she has to say is for people to like, not only realize that she's doing that, but love that.

[02:18:30] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, I love when T core tells me, you know what I'm saying?

[02:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And like the fact that she just has that natural magnetism and the fact that people don't see her as a threat right now.

[02:18:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, there's some whispers, but she's not seen as a threat.

[02:18:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And if she can keep this, this threat level low, if they can lock in this structure, then I mean, the sky is truly the limit for her.

[02:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I am so impressed because I was very scared last week.

[02:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I was really scared for her last week.

[02:19:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like, thank you, Jesus.

[02:19:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoever gave her that message in a bottle is that girl, let's go.

[02:19:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's get it.

[02:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's get it together.

[02:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And she said, yes, let's go.

[02:19:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And so she's, she's doing great.

[02:19:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait to see what happens.

[02:19:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait to see her maneuverings.

[02:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel very confident in her as a player.

[02:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't see anybody targeting her right now.

[02:19:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like QT said, there doesn't seem that like she's not hedging on what happens next week.

[02:19:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm all, I'm all for it.

[02:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm all for it.

[02:19:40] [SPEAKER_05]: It kind of made me want to give her an eight.

[02:19:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like convinced by everything you said.

[02:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the audience gave her a seven.

[02:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And I do agree.

[02:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I do agree with the seven.

[02:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think there, for one thing, I think, and I guess this is now turning to a critique of T-Core,

[02:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: but I don't want it to be a critique of T-Core because I do think there's a lot of positive things to say about T-Core.

[02:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But there, I think a couple of the concerns that I have are specifically kind of, again, like who she's closest with.

[02:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the fact that like within this trio, Kimo is a lot closer to Quinn than she is, is a little dangerous for her.

[02:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm a little concerned about like, you know, she agreed with Rubina with like, I also wish I had done a little more studying about this game.

[02:20:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So like, I think there are some long-term things to look out for.

[02:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that right now, she's in a great spot.

[02:20:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I have her and Kimo at like my two highest scores of the week.

[02:20:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's exactly right for me.

[02:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that they are both in a great spot.

[02:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that if they are able to get this group to win HOH and lock this in and maybe take out like Leah or maybe whoever remains of Angela or Lisa and like really solidify their structure,

[02:21:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I think this could be a really powerful grouping.

[02:21:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So definitely one to look out for here.

[02:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see because this has continually been very fluid.

[02:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But that does leave us with one person left.

[02:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: We're almost there.

[02:21:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We got to talk about Tucker.

[02:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Mari, how do you feel about Tucker?

[02:21:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I love Tucker.

[02:21:31] [SPEAKER_03]: However, comma, but like our good friend AJ says, he's on the block because he volunteered to be there.

[02:21:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So if we are sitting here docking Cam and Cedric for just volunteering, we got to dock Tucker for volunteering and actually being put on the block.

[02:21:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he is not going to go helps, you know, helps him.

[02:21:57] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he is being included in this structure that the visionaries T-Core Quinn and Kimo want is good.

[02:22:07] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he is just like in the same position that Kimo was in last week, like he is the de facto pawn.

[02:22:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like if he is still on that block, there's no way he's going home.

[02:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like I mean, like it was looking kind of shifty there for a second, but it's like, no, no, no.

[02:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just we got to keep him.

[02:22:27] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm going to give him a six because I think he's like right on the level there with Quinn and Rubina and them.

[02:22:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he the fact that he was able to let go of the Lisa obsession to be like, OK, if you guys don't want Lisa to go this week, it's fine.

[02:22:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'll take out Angela.

[02:22:45] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he's not like he's not too rigid on that to the point where it's like alienating his allies is also really good.

[02:22:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker's doing a great job of just connecting with people.

[02:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: He he again, the only bad thing that he did was volunteer to be on the block and actually be on the block this week, which is very big.

[02:23:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, other than that, he's done he's done really well and he's so entertaining.

[02:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: He's he's so entertaining.

[02:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody loves him.

[02:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I'm gonna give him I'm gonna give him a six for in the game and he can like he can only go up.

[02:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like from here.

[02:23:26] [SPEAKER_02]: A six from Mari.

[02:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: A five from the audience.

[02:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, look at the audience being stingy.

[02:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm even stingier.

[02:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm giving a four.

[02:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I did.

[02:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, because of the listen.

[02:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, you're you're volunteering for the block.

[02:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.

[02:23:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this guy is lucky that he is not pooching himself right now.

[02:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: He is very lucky that he's not pooching himself.

[02:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me tell you, it's not that much his own doing that he is this same.

[02:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It is more so the undoing of Lisa and Angela.

[02:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's quite frankly lucky to get a four for me, given the volunteering.

[02:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But he is in a good spot.

[02:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think he is likely to survive.

[02:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that he is likely to improve on his position from here.

[02:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But I also don't trust him to not volunteer again in the future or do something else very silly.

[02:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So like, yeah, I got to go with a four.

[02:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We're all over the board.

[02:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Where do you stand?

[02:24:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, gosh, I know.

[02:24:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, where do I go now?

[02:24:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I'm.

[02:24:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[02:24:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Volunteering for the block.

[02:24:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Horrible.

[02:24:38] [SPEAKER_05]: But I will say compared to a cam, he's volunteering for the block and not being thought of as an option to go home, where I think if cam was on the block, he would be very highly considered and might be going home this week.

[02:24:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so that makes me feel like Tucker's in a much better position than cam.

[02:24:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, also, even though Tucker has this like showman's trope with Rubina, people like them a lot more than they like a cam or Leah.

[02:25:05] [SPEAKER_05]: So that doesn't seem to be knocking him.

[02:25:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I think his personality, um, he just does a really good job of connecting with the people that he likes.

[02:25:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I also think what helps him is that he so clearly dislikes Lisa and everyone knows it.

[02:25:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that.

[02:25:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I always say like in a game like big brother, it's not bad to have a public enemy or a public target because then people know that you're not coming for them or they know that if you were to come for them, you'd be very upfront about it.

[02:25:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And so they almost feel like that.

[02:25:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You're not someone they have to worry about unless you say it.

[02:25:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I think all of those things work good for him.

[02:25:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not so high on him because he is on the block and he did volunteer, but I'm a little higher than cam.

[02:25:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so I go five for Tucker.

[02:25:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, yeah, that feels good.

[02:25:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I, yeah, I think a five for Tucker makes sense.

[02:25:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause it's a position where he can do better and he can, as the weeks go on, hopefully get into a better position.

[02:26:04] [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't think he's in a really bad one right now, even though he's on the block.

[02:26:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I also think with this whole volunteering thing, like this season has such a different, um, approach.

[02:26:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if that's the right word, but to volunteering for the block because of the AI arena, I think they feel like they have more chances to get off the block.

[02:26:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's not just like, once you get on there, it's between you and someone else.

[02:26:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone kind of feels like, okay, if I don't win veto, I can win AI.

[02:26:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Or even if I go up after the renom ceremony, I can still win AI and potentially not be on the block.

[02:26:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And then also this week, there's such clear targets in Lisa or Angela, if you're on the block next to them.

[02:26:41] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's not the worst place to be in, but I do wish he had a better sense of the game to know that pawns go home.

[02:26:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So don't volunteer to be on the block.

[02:26:51] Yeah.

[02:26:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, all right.

[02:26:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That then is the stock watch or the week.

[02:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, of course, if you want to, uh, Oh, well, wow.

[02:27:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Another five.

[02:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't five.

[02:27:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but if you want to play along at home, you can, you can go to reality stock, watch.com.

[02:27:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you'll see how these new ratings have impacted the, uh, the, the, the prices.

[02:27:19] [SPEAKER_02]: See how you did.

[02:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Who did you buy?

[02:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Who did you sell?

[02:27:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, did you guys, uh, buy anybody?

[02:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you guys do anything?

[02:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So I couldn't log into my account.

[02:27:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I, I was trying to log in.

[02:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: There are some issues.

[02:27:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[02:27:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Oh, good.

[02:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So Mari, you got it.

[02:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You, it's working.

[02:27:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You, who did you want to buy?

[02:27:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have bought T-Core.

[02:27:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I, I would have bought her like no matter what or her or chemo just even off of last week.

[02:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I just love the two of them.

[02:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So I would have bought one of one or two of them.

[02:27:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So that sucks.

[02:27:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I lost that on a lot of profit, but it's fine.

[02:27:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It's okay.

[02:27:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Can I speak for the people out there who have not bought anyone?

[02:28:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I, as much as I've watched this podcast over the years, I've never actually like actively

[02:28:06] [SPEAKER_05]: participated in the stock watch.

[02:28:07] [SPEAKER_05]: So if I wanted to, how would I like, what's the, where do I go to?

[02:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You go to realitystockwatch.com.

[02:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You log in with whatever social media account you would like.

[02:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then you, you just click join the game and then you start with $200 and then you, it does all the math for you.

[02:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so like right now, what I'm going to do is that, uh, I bought some chemo.

[02:28:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I bought some chemo last week.

[02:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I felt, uh, I felt like he was at a four cause he was on the block.

[02:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I felt he was going to stay.

[02:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I felt like he was going to do well and it worked.

[02:28:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So I did that.

[02:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to go to my stocks here.

[02:28:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to look at chemo and I'm going to hit sell all and then submit the trade.

[02:28:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Although it might be broken right now because everyone's going to go to it at the same time.

[02:28:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but then if I wanted to, I could, uh, I could buy somebody else if the website was working at the moment.

[02:28:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, uh, and then that's, that's basically what you can do.

[02:29:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I see.

[02:29:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And I can still do it even though I didn't start.

[02:29:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[02:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[02:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm excited to get into that.

[02:29:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[02:29:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, okay.

[02:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So that is the stock watch.

[02:29:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, of course I'll be back tomorrow morning, 11am Eastern to update you on everything that happened today on the big brother 26 live feeds.

[02:29:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Some, some fun stuff going on today, especially with this, uh, new visionaries group.

[02:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, uh, and you know, more with Angela, uh, with some walking, uh, so fun stuff, uh, in store for tomorrow.

[02:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, there's also going to be an episode tomorrow.

[02:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be live on Twitch, twitch.tv slash Darren Armstrong.

[02:29:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be watching the episode with all of you.

[02:29:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to, we're going to have a recap afterward as well.

[02:29:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, if you want to see this little plushie, you want one of your own.

[02:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he's great at watching live feeds.

[02:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a robot.

[02:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you have one day left.

[02:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow is the final day.

[02:29:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday is the final day.

[02:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You can order one of these and they're gone forever.

[02:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, they will, they will no longer be any tell us plushies available.

[02:30:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, check that out if you would like, uh, QT, what do you got going on?

[02:30:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, not too much.

[02:30:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I say that every time, but I, if anyone out there loves to read, I do a lot

[02:30:16] [SPEAKER_05]: of book content.

[02:30:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a bookstagram.

[02:30:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's at books with QT.

[02:30:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I've been posting a bunch on there and some reading vlogs on my YouTube channel.

[02:30:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I just talk about all of the fun books that I love so much, um, and give some great recommendations.

[02:30:31] [SPEAKER_05]: People seem to like my book recommendations.

[02:30:33] [SPEAKER_05]: So hopefully you guys will too, if you like books.

[02:30:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so yeah, just follow me on YouTube and Instagram for all of that.

[02:30:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you give us a book recommendation right now?

[02:30:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I can just for the summer by Abby Jimenez.

[02:30:46] [SPEAKER_05]: One of the best books I've read probably in this year.

[02:30:49] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so good.

[02:30:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, um, I guess it's technically a romance book, but there's like deeper meaning

[02:30:56] [SPEAKER_05]: behind it.

[02:30:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It's almost like a literary fiction.

[02:30:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and there's some great things that happen and big plot twists and stuff.

[02:31:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Amazing book.

[02:31:03] [SPEAKER_05]: So good.

[02:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Ooh.

[02:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[02:31:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:31:07] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[02:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[02:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Mari.

[02:31:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, of course, uh, we got one more week left of house of the dragon.

[02:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So me and Chappelle are over on the recap kickback, um, hosting the hot, the Westeros kickback,

[02:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: the house of the dragons.

[02:31:23] [SPEAKER_03]: If you haven't been, um, listening to us, what's going on?

[02:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Why haven't you go to recap kickback.com to subscribe or go to youtube.com slash at recap

[02:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: kickback.

[02:31:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Every week we recap the house of the dragons episode.

[02:31:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Plus we do a little book corner with me, Maester Mari, where I break down a little bit of go

[02:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: into book spoilers and stuff.

[02:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: We have so much fun over there.

[02:31:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So please go and check that out.

[02:31:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And then of course, every Tuesday you could right now go and listen to me and Sarah Carradine.

[02:31:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we bring true crime Tuesdays to RHAP with the crime scene podcast where we watch as a true

[02:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: crime review podcast, where we, um, watch, uh, like documentaries, docu-series, and we tell you

[02:32:07] [SPEAKER_03]: if you should watch them this week, we covered pillowcase murders, um, over on Paramount.

[02:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Plus it is a three-part docu-series and it was very compelling, a very compelling, um, docu-series.

[02:32:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we had a great time.

[02:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just me and Sarah this week and we had a great time breaking it down and talking about it.

[02:32:29] [SPEAKER_03]: QT, are you a true crime head?

[02:32:32] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I get so scared about everything.

[02:32:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I can barely even read mystery books because I get so freaked out.

[02:32:38] [SPEAKER_05]: So not really.

[02:32:39] [SPEAKER_05]: The stories are so compelling though, so, but yeah.

[02:32:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, nevermind then.

[02:32:44] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you're people who are not afraid, please go check us out by going to robhasawebsite.com

[02:32:49] [SPEAKER_03]: slash crime feed, um, to subscribe to the crime scene podcast.

[02:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Taryn slash slash Kellis, uh, what do you have going on?

[02:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: More big brother.

[02:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: All big brother all the time.

[02:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to buy the plushie, the link is on Twitter.

[02:33:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, there's more, more big brother coming to you soon.

[02:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Find, uh, find me on Twitch.

[02:33:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, thank you for joining and we'll see all of you next time.