BB26 Roundtable Week 10: Somehow The Worst Week of Gameplay Yet

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Big Brother 26 Roundtable Podcast.

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_01]: This is, of course, a podcast where we talk about everything from the feeds

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: we rank, rate the players, and based on how well we think they are doing in the game.

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I am your host, Taryn Armstrong.

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And joining me this week is Mari.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Taryn.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Taryn.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I am so glad to be here to talk about

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_03]: how I just can't.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_03]: This is going to be great.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I we're tanking.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's stocks are going down.

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Get ready.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Get ready, indeed.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, also with us tonight, it's Melissa.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: How you doing, Melissa?

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_09]: I am very excited to be here.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like there are some weeks that just frustrate you to no end as the decisions are

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_09]: being made and as things are happening.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_09]: And all I think about is like, I cannot wait until the roundtable because I'm going to be able

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_09]: to get it out and let it out there.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's going to be cathartic.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's like, I'm just so glad that we have this time for weeks like this because, yeah,

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_09]: it's been a bad one.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Under our lower three, Melissa Rance.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like where were we?

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, indeed.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, of course, the last time we spoke, Leah was the H.O.H.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was ranting about how she was making a mistake by not putting T-Core and Chelsea

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: on the block, not targeting Chelsea in general.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But at the time it looked like, all right, well, maybe things will work out because Chelsea's

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: really dropping the ball this week in terms of letting T-Core go.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And and letting MJ get her way.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And and there was potentially some momentum there.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And all MJ needed to do to carry that momentum on was not screw it up.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So MJ won H.O.H. and screwed it up.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Great.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_03]: After MJ won H.O.H., I literally text my best friend.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I said, oh, man, this sucks.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Either MJ, Leah or Angela are going to win this season.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And I like just a mere three days later and I'm like, wow, that is that is not what's

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: going to happen at this point.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe the massive fumble that MJ is committing this week.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's making me wonder if like Chelsea did such a good job of capitulating last week

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_03]: is why we're in the position that we are now this week.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But man, oh, man, I don't think any of us could have seen this week coming.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I am I'm very shocked at how this week went.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I just feel like I when MJ won, I thought for sure Leah was going to be safe.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I thought Angela was going to be safe as well.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_09]: But I thought for sure Leah and I felt like after last week, I felt like MJ maybe had

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_09]: kind of started to understand what was going on around her or maybe where her positioning

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_09]: was or who she could work with moving forward.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_09]: And turns out she didn't know any of that.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_09]: And it was all just nothing because this week has just gone so poorly for her.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just it's so frustrating to see somebody put up their allies and not only put up their

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_09]: allies like like Quinn did or someone like that, but actually actively target their allies.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Like it just does not make any sense.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And the frustrating thing, the most frustrating thing about it for me is like.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_09]: It always seems to like they usually come to the realization that this was like a bad move

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_09]: after they've already made the move and after there's no turning back and the two people

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_09]: are on the block already.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, couldn't you have talked about this prior to the veto?

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just and I get why Leah obviously didn't think she was going to be going on the block,

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_09]: so she didn't feel the need to campaign to McKenzie.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_09]: But it's just so annoying that it's like, like if you had just spoken sooner, this wouldn't

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_09]: have happened.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's just it.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_09]: God, this has just been so frustrating to watch because it's just bad gameplay.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like it's not like, oh man, I'm so bummed because like I really like Leah and I wish

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_09]: she would stay, which like I do wish Leah would stay, but that's beside the point.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like I'm frustrated because this is just there's no logic behind it.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_09]: There's no game reasoning behind it for McKenzie.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't make any sense for her game, so it's like you can't justify it.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_09]: You can't be like, yeah, but I see why this was done.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_09]: There's no reason for her to do this aside from helping Chelsea or doing whatever Chelsea

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_09]: wants her to do.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_09]: It's it's just bad.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just it's hard to watch.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not I mean, honestly, it's not fun to watch this type of game like it's it's funny,

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_09]: I guess, like when we can all laugh about it and like tweet, like retweet and tweet funny

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_09]: things about it.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_09]: But like in terms of actually like watching this, like it's not fun.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't I mean, I don't have fun watching people make really, really dumb moves that are bad

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_09]: for their game.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And then like the only thing I think will be fun about this is when McKenzie goes home

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_09]: immediately after Leah and the double.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I really think.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, listen, I'll I'll make the case I made the case on the update on one of the

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: updates as well that like quite frankly, I don't think that putting Leah on the block

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: is a significantly worse mistake than or sorry, targeting Leah is a significant worse mistake

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: than targeting Angela was like I was I was here at the like MJ, you're an idiot.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I fully admit that I'm speaking into the void here and nobody's going to listen to me because

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: the the like the visual, the optics of her targeting Leah is so much worse than the one

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: of her targeting Angela.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And there is certainly an argument to be made that it is a worse move.

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But but yeah, I mean, I think that like the optics and the visuals of her having both

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah and Angela on the block is definitely worse as well.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But really, the issue here is that I don't think that MJ ever intended to go against

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: her trio.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that she has had a final two with Chelsea all along.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She plans to go to the end with Chelsea.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_01]: She just wanted to cut Chelsea's other options off so that Chelsea was forced to go with

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: her, which is a perfectly fine move to make if you have a chance in hell at beating Chelsea

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: in the final two, which I don't think MJ quite frankly does.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's that's the main issue, the main source of problem of a problem for MJ.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it gets the thing that really sinks her if she does plan to go to the end with

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: wrong players is that optics do matter in the game of Big Brother.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And and the fact that she has Angela and Leah on the block, the fact that she is taking

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah out on her first H.O.H.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The first time she's had the ability to target whoever she wants and she targets the one

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: person who is only in the game as her number is, I think, disqualifying for a final two

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: jury vote.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Under most circumstances.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just it's it's bad for so many reasons.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But but I think that fundamentally, it's been flawed from the start.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ has been dedicated to this idea of working with Chelsea from week one.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And and even after being blindsided and betrayed and lied to by Chelsea, she kept coming back.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And and now she's here and now she's here in a spot where she is starting to question

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think she's in too deep.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I personally, it's it's so hard for people to climb out of this pit of like.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I've chosen the wrong person, they're leading me astray.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I've made so many mistakes.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I've betrayed so many people.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You have so many things to come to terms with or you can delude yourself into thinking that

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that you were right all along and that it's still a good decision up until the point where

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: you get as you think.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Chelsea's pit, everybody.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Dan's Miss, Ceres pepper spray, Chelsea's pit.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I am telling you, I I think I enjoy watching this.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the funny thing to me is if you really go back throughout the weeks, it truly seems

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_03]: on every week, like the person who wins the next week had already taken their target out

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_03]: the previous week.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So when they do, yes, when they do, when they're like, oh, wait, now who do I target?

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And they end up targeting somebody else's target who then wins a week after that.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's been so interesting to kind of see other people target other people for

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: other people just for that person or another person to get a wage and then target somebody

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_03]: for another person.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't know.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It has just been such an interesting season.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Bad gameplay, all of that good, good, good stuff.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: But we I can't wait to kind of talk about Chelsea's strangulation basically on this game

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_03]: because I don't know if I'm I don't know if I'm being overzealous here, but watching MJ

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: put Leah on the block this week was like, I mean, only because it's not further down

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_03]: in the season.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like Shane taking Dan off and I mean, Danielle taking Dan off so he could

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: put Shane on the block and then vote him out.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's not that big because we're not at four, but it is it is a massive, like just

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: a massive blow.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It truly is.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And and Terran's right.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a it's a bad move all around, but it just even looks worse.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And I love that about it.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a bad move in general, but it looks like the worst thing you could ever do.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And it it is I to me it is.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, to me, it's giving something that we saw a little more recently, which is

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: like an Avery, you know, taking out Kayla or perhaps a Vivek taking out Dennis.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Dennis, the BB can moves.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, BB can moves.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no, it's it's just it's so bad.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's like and the thing also is, is that like I don't know, I'm I'm starting to worry

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_09]: for like the end of the season a little bit just because I feel like.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Who I mean, aside from Chelsea, like who are we supposed to be looking at?

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, in terms of strategy or in terms of like being a good player, like I don't know,

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like it's like.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I we took them all out.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_03]: They're all gone.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: The thing is, I'm like, OK, this is like this is like when you're driving the car and you have

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: enough speed to get to the stop and you just you just take your foot off the gas and you just go

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: the rest of the way.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's that's what that's what the season is.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We're just we're just coasting the rest of the way.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We're just waiting to crown Chelsea, I think.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I can't I can't see any other alternative.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And the thing is, is that at this point, like if there is another alternative or if or if

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_09]: someone gets Chelsea out prior to the end, like I don't know if it will feel like earned

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_09]: or deserved or like I don't think I'll see it as like, whoa, look this whole time.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Like they took out Chelsea and now they're the really because I just feel like this whole

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_09]: entire time they've been making like boneheaded moves that it's like I don't think I would then

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_09]: see it as like this.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_09]: They've been planning this the whole time and now they realize their shot.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Like it's not like that.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think quite frankly, I don't think anybody's playing like that, including Chelsea.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that she's the best player in the season, but I don't think this was like the

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: path she intended by any means.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I don't think she's like manipulating everyone in there, but I do think that everyone

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_09]: in there is just like bad.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, to that point, I would say that like, you know, I think that Cam has also played

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: a like a very good game.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: His the biggest knock against him right now is that he might plan to go to the end with

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: If he plans to do anything other than that, he's all of a sudden played a very good game.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And if he plans to take out Chelsea, all of a sudden Cam could be the front runner and

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam could be like the player that we should have been looking at the whole time.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, if Cam I think Cam is like one of the few people who like if at the very end

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_09]: he like John parties like Chelsea or something and then argues for himself being like this

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_09]: whole time, like I knew what I needed to do.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Like Chelsea brought me and are like, you know, Chelsea and I were working together,

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_09]: but I knew I couldn't be her.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I had to cut her like I could I could see that being like a good argument and us kind

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_09]: of maybe having to reevaluate like, oh, OK, he was playing, you know, he was playing this

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_09]: this whole time or something.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_09]: But that's really the only scenario where I can say like I can't imagine a scenario where

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_09]: chemo or something like ends up like at the end and we don't know what kind of speech

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: he's got into Melissa.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's true.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_09]: He changed minds with the speech once so he can do it again.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, I don't know.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I just feel like I I feel like we would have to like rewrite history in order to be like,

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_09]: wow, chemo game.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_09]: OK, I just I don't know.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_09]: He's constantly on the block and then constantly not being but like almost being the target

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_09]: and then not being the target, but not not because of anything he's done, just because

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_09]: like everyone around him is doing other things.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I see your point about chemo.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you could make an argument for Rubina.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's made some boneheaded moves here and there.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that like apart from the sort of melding into the trio that she has done

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: on occasion, she has shown moments of like very good social games and good strategic

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: instincts.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And if she were to like Harris her way to the end of the game, like I wouldn't be too

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: mad about it.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I think she's doing that.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I feel like very interesting.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I just feel like I need to like, I don't think she knows you're getting you're giving these

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: people too much credit.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I truly don't think they would even have to be like, I've done this master plan, blah,

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: For me to see them as like having a good game.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think we knew we knew from week two what we're dealing with with this cast.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody on this.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I still have hope.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like it's just the they lasted one round and OTA of Melissa.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_09]: I guess I'm always just hoping that it's like, OK, they're playing as like this, like low

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_09]: level game and like, but really, they understand what's going on.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And we just don't know.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a game of contrast.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I just I it's like I want you to the end once you get to the end, you know what I'm saying?

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Unless you're Jag and you just completely gaslight everybody into thinking you're the

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_03]: most amazing player ever.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And all you really did was win comps.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like all you have to say is like, I'm here.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You're not because honestly, if we get a dud of a final two like a chemo and Rubina, all

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: you got to say is I survived the block.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you don't have to prove any strategic maneuverings because that cast in that jury

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: knows you did not have any strategic maneuverings like even Cam.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: All Cam would have to do is cut Chelsea and he still wouldn't even need to explain like,

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_03]: oh, I was going to do this the whole time.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't I really I really don't think we're going to need like a grand like I think

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_09]: to win.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_09]: You're right.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_09]: But I think in order for anyone outside of the house to view them as like a good player

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_09]: or like a good win or a deserving winner or whatever, like I feel like Cam would need

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_09]: to express like I knew I needed to do this.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_09]: I knew I couldn't beat her.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_09]: But like this whole time I've been like playing.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like it's like I want to hear that from him.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_09]: I know I care.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I genuinely feel like like Cam would be a solid winner.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think Cam and Chelsea both clear the bar, right?

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I agree.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Most other people.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Leah might struggle to clear the bar.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I think we could make an argument.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I think she might not.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_09]: But I do think if she does survive this week and if she does get make it to the end, I

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_09]: think there is an argument for like I was alone, like my ally got Queen got taken out

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_09]: and I made it on my own.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, like I feel like I don't think we'd be like, whoa, strategic mastermind.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_09]: But I do think that she I would be impressed with a Leah win at this point.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, she's like probably going to go home this week, unfortunately.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, certainly, especially if she saves herself this week.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, like if she can make that by itself would be enough to be like, all right,

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, let's give you a second look here.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Because then she's dead in the water.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_09]: And I honestly think like Angela would have a good argument, too, if she makes it to the

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_09]: end.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I think I don't know how serious people will take her.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_09]: But I think that the idea that like people didn't take me seriously the entire time and

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_09]: now look where I am.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I do think there is an argument for that.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_09]: But I think I think it would be be difficult because I can't really I guess you would probably

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_09]: have to be up against like MJ or something in order to get that, because I think her

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_09]: up against Kimo and Rubina, I think that they would have enough votes in the jury house

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_09]: like to for them to win.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_09]: And then I think like Chelsea or Cam, if it's her versus Chelsea or Cam, I think that they

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_09]: would have a better argument for like they control the game or whatever.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_09]: But but I think there is an argument to be made of Angela gets the end.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I don't think she's drawing dead.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Angela versus Kimo final two would be kind of interesting to me because to me,

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I think leaving Angela in here, right?

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_03]: If say we say Leah goes, Angela has a really good shot of winning double eviction.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: H.O.H.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It's more than likely going to be questions that seem to be Angela bread and butter.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Plus, Angela is done really good at puzzling stuff like Angela has been clearing these

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: cops like shout out to her.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_03]: So if she gets to the end and it's like her versus Kimo, I'm thinking she had to have won

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_03]: a few more things to get there.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, Kimo might have his to core and and Rubino locked in.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Angela might be able to still still for four votes there because Kimo for me, at least,

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, in the house's eyes, we'd have to talk about it.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But for me, Kimo has not shown anything and he can't because he's on the block.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He's been on the block for like more than half of the season.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But still, like when you are kind of almost telling the person who's going to use a beat

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_03]: on you to not use a beat on you.

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like, sir, I don't know what you're going to say in this this final this

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_03]: final speech.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Mari, haven't you heard?

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What is we do with Kimo's move?

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I Leah on the block.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they did convince themselves that didn't they?

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, my God.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I do think there is like the likability factor for I do feel like people might like really

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_09]: be moved by him as a winner.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we should underestimate Kimo's relationship with Quinn because they've been

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like really tight from from very, very early on.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And when before Quinn left, like they really bonded again.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't think we should underestimate that, especially given that Quinn is going

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: to be in the jury with decor all week long by themselves this week and talking about

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo and Rubina and then with Rubina there.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, those are the people that Quinn gravitated to in the first place.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a feeling he's going to want to hang out with them.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Granted, the Leah situation might keep them apart.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And if Leah comes into the jury soon, then he's going to have some other stuff to do.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there's it may or may not how Leah feels about it may may shift things to

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah's feeling upset with Kimo for thinking that he is the cause of this situation.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the fact that she currently does still think that Kimo is the cause of the situation

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: is really interesting, because if she goes out of the house actually thinking that Chelsea

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: didn't have much to do with this and that it was primarily Kimo and Rubina and she goes

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: to Quinn and she's like, I'm so mad at Kimo and Rubina.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They tricked MJ into taking me out instead of one of them.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like are they even going to see it the way that we see it?

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Are they going to give Chelsea the credit?

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I don't.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's ridiculous.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_09]: It's it's possible.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, it is possible that by the end of this, like if Chelsea plays it too well in terms of

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_09]: people to believe that she's not doing these things or whatever, like will they believe

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_09]: that she actually has controlled any part of the game or done anything like will they think like,

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_09]: oh, no, all those moves that you're trying to take credit for now, we know who actually did it

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_09]: like it was Kimo or it was Rubina or whatever.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, are they actually going to believe her when at the end she's like, look what I've done,

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_09]: everyone.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I did all this like.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so funny.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_09]: And also I'll say about the Angela thing, like I think like they've kind of already

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_09]: all seen her speech like that she would make in the final two chairs.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_09]: So like, I don't know if that would move them in any way because I feel like she would just

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_09]: say the same thing about like, this is my dream and this is big, freaky brother and I can't

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_09]: believe I'm still here.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_09]: And so I feel like.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Cry, cry, cry.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, they would probably just be kind of like, OK, like whatever.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_09]: And whoever else is up there with her, they might be more moved by that.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, yeah, we'll see about Angela.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I do.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I thinking about this because I was talking about Cam.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Cam versus Chelsea in the final two.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think Chelsea wins.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But you if you start looking at it like does T-Core actually control all three votes from

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: the trio because Cam does have a better relationship with Rubina.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea does.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And if Cam is able to steal a Rubina vote, that kind of changes the game because I think

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that Leah would be inclined to vote Cam over Chelsea.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: If Leah's a vote for Cam over Chelsea, where does Angela fall?

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Genuinely, she could go either way, especially if Leah's pulling in one direction.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: How bitter is MJ if it's a Cam and Chelsea final two?

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Where does Quinn fall if Leah's pushing in a certain direction?

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden you're starting to look at all of these votes that could fall in a different

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: direction.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the key for Chelsea is and has been for the jury vote T-Core and can T-Core like

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: keep her votes in line in the jury essentially?

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she will.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Chelsea has this.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she probably has Quinn regardless as well.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But you do start to see like little cracks in the armor here and there, especially when

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: it seems like there's a chance she may lose some jury votes on the way with maybe Leah,

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe MJ kind of thing.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So something to watch out for as we watch the coasting happen.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Wait, what if it's okay?

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_09]: What if the final three is Cam, Chelsea and MJ and then Cam does a John party move by

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_09]: being like, I know I can't beat Chelsea, so I have to pick MJ to go to the end.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, would Chelsea vote for Cam then?

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Because I feel like she'd be like, wow, once again, he's choosing MJ over me.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: No, she would not vote for Cam.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The real question is, would T-Core vote for Cam if that happens?

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like, yeah.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like it would be like, yeah, that's a tough one because I think that it would

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_09]: play into the idea that like Cam and MJ have something going on.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And we have successfully guilted him into not doing that.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_09]: So very interesting.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's take a look at the survey for the week because of course, every week I send

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: out the survey, you rate the players yourself, hear from the audience.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we also ask some other fun questions like who is your favorite player?

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I asked the audience to rank their favorite player from their favorite to their least

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_01]: favorite.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a wild ride this season, starting with Quinn going to T-Core for a while, swapping

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: to Chelsea.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And then let me see, it went Chelsea and then I think to Leah.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea to Leah.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So who is the audience's favorite player?

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it's Leah.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can see that.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not Leah.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Whoa.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, maybe Cam?

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I personally rank Chelsea as my number one, but you know.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It is not Cam.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It is not Chelsea.

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Angela?

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Whoa, Angela.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Angela has taken the top spot.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Wow.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm very surprised, but good for her.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Impression.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: This makes it so it was Quinn, T-Core, Chelsea, Leah, Angela.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the fifth person to be in the top spot.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That has to be a record for a season.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Great season.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So Leah was in fact second place.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Then Cam?

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Then it was Cam, yes.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to the dogs at the crib.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Not too many surprises here, I think.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Fairly straightforward ranking other than the top spot.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Angela, number one, Leah, number two, Cam, number three, Chelsea, number four.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Just beating out Rubina at number five.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Then Kimo, number six, and in last place by a decent margin is MJ.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Wasn't she like, didn't she just move up last week to like a good spot?

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So Leah and Angela swap places.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah drops below Angela.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: She was first last week.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Second this week, Angela hops up to the top spot.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Second to first.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam stays in third.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea stays in fourth.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ was fifth, drops down to last to seventh place.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And Rubina rises from last place up past Kimo who drops below Rubina.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So those are the shifts here in the favorite rankings.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I asked the audience to rate the episodes this week.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week, they were a five point five.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This week, a five point two.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Not quite as fond of Yankee World, I guess.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I can see that.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And Ainsley being all red was weird.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Creepy.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going Terminator here.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I like this.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Ari's like, I had to give it a zero because.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Is it AI or robots?

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, where are we going here?

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I also asked the audience to rate the feeds.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, let's also look at last season this week.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: The episodes were a six point five.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So actually better episodes last season at this point in time.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It was it was Bowie's HOA train when she took out Ham.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, OK.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So that probably had nothing to do with it.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I asked the audience to rate the feeds this week.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week, they were a three point oh Yankee World.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This week, back up to a five point one.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And still, you know.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say, yeah, that's that's fair.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's not a lot going on.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And what is going on was the late night conversation last night, which.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Was not fun to watch.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the concept of it was fun.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The minutiae of the like five hours of it, not as fun.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Not as good.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So in comparison to last season, the feeds were a six point six this week.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think telling in terms of like the outcome you desire is happening versus.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So how long is this season going to be again?

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I only let's see, only two and a half more weeks.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So we will have two more roundtables.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Ninety day.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's rough.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just under 90 days, I believe.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, because when you say Cam left, I'm like, oh my God, that season was still like

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: so has like a third of the season ago.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Was last season longer?

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Last season was last season, 100 days.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So so last year, yeah, last season went to the roundtable went to week 14.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: We will end at week 12 this season.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So we will be two weeks short.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So we could I mean, we could start to combine some weeks here for BB 25 in terms of comparisons.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And if we're looking at like, I mean, for instance,

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: BB 25 at the say final seven was week 12 in BB 25 where the episodes were a four point four.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The feats were a four point five.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So that is maybe the better comparison at this point, considering because basically.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Zombie week cuts it in half or cuts in half zombie week stalls them by a week.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the Jag week stalled them by a week.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So so we are two weeks behind from their week 11 for BB 25.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The episodes were four point eight.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: The feeds of five point eight.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll do a quick little comparison down the line for BB 25 to catch us up.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The season as a whole for BB 26.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, now I've got too many tabs open.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I last week for BB 26.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week, seven point four.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: This week, seven point three.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: No significant difference.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So the Bowie week taking out Cam and BB 25, the season as a whole was a seven point oh.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: The following week when Jag won and it was the invisible H.O.H.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_01]: The beginning of the end.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The season dropped to a six point six the following week when Jag won again.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_01]: The season dropped to a five point seven.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was week 12.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The comparable week is a five point seven versus this week's seven point three for this season.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So so.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So blues eviction.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So Corey's eviction and Borey's eviction.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So that truly was I mean, you know, zombie week was the beginning of the end, but Jag winning

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: to a two eight year old was the yeah, the nail in the coffin there as the season plummeted in the

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: overall rank rating, whereas this season is definitely holding on up at the seven point

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: three. Okay.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I asked the audience to rate Leah's H.O.H. rain last week.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to get a a retrospective rating from last week.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, last week when they rated it, they gave it a five point two this week and to a four point one.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: A little hindsight being 2020 there.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have rated it lower to begin with and still lower now.

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I rated it to when I did this.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: In comparison, MJ's H.O.H. rain a one point seven.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is about point seven higher than it should be.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_01]: In comparison, Bowie's H.O.H. rain in week 10 was a six point eight.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Jag's following H.O.H. rain was a three point seven.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And then his next one was a three point eight blue.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So then I finally we got a final rating on the janky twist where last week it was a two point

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_01]: seven this week up to a three point one.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I think janky's death boosted it a point for poor janky.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_03]: They could have given us a warning.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_03]: My my son was watching that and he was like, what happened to the robot?

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And I had to explain death.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You did it.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I don't know what of them they got rid of the robot.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he went to the scrapyard in the sky or janky.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So I asked the audience, did MJ make the correct decision with the veto this week?

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Ninety five percent of the audience said no.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, those five percent of you, you should apply for Big Brother.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I bet they're going to take you.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I asked the audience, who do you want to be evicted this week?

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is a close one.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Fifty six percent of the audience said.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah makes sense.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Angela has overtaken Leah.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't want either of them to go.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_09]: This is honestly a sad week for me.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't want I want them both to say I feel like their most

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_09]: their storylines are most interesting to me right now,

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_09]: because obviously they're the underdogs and I love an underdog.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_09]: So I I'm more intrigued to see how

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_09]: they can work their way around this season.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And now I just feel like it sucks.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Underdogs who won the HOH.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Exactly.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that I'm sorry you fail me once you're done.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Give Angela a shot at it.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_09]: They were still underdogs.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_09]: I think the thing is, is that they won.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_09]: But there was different scenarios.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_09]: They ended up getting T-Core out.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, like the way they went about it or the way

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_09]: it went about was not great.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_09]: It wasn't the perfect scenario.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_09]: But I do think that like if there were two trios

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_09]: and they had to make the decision of do I go after this trio

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_09]: or go after this trio?

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And obviously they made not probably.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, we honestly don't know if it's the right choice or not,

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_09]: because it's totally possible that T-Core would have gone

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_09]: after Leah as well.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I don't know.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Like maybe they had gone Chelsea out and T-Core would have

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_09]: done the same thing.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_09]: But I do think that they had to make a choice.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_09]: They thought that that was the right choice.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_09]: At least they got someone like one of the leaders of a trio out.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_09]: And you can't get them both out.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, like obviously I wish they had kind of been able

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_09]: to like finagle their way in and get and convince

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_09]: the like people who are following in the trios,

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_09]: like the two points of each trio, I guess you could say.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Like I wish they were able to convince them,

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_09]: like don't just follow blindly like Chelsea's leading

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_09]: you astray or whatever.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_09]: But they weren't.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you know, well, you can't always have it.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That's an interesting way of describing a flop.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say that's a common misconception to me,

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_03]: because like if you're still under that doesn't mean

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_09]: they're not underdogs.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_03]: If you're in the middle of if you're a third group

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and there's there's three groups in a thing, it's not pick a side.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's make those sides fight.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And you do that by putting one up from true.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, absolutely.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Common misconception.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody is so afraid of like, oh, I have to choose a side.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I can only go after one side, because if not,

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_03]: then the other then I'll have both sides mad at me.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_03]: No, both sides will be too busy fighting each other

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_03]: to to be mad at you.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_03]: They'll be mad at you, but more than likely,

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_03]: they'll be mad at that other side

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_03]: because they got to get through that week

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_03]: and they have to they have to do battle against each other first.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So that was that was the problem.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what people really fail to do.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And a big brother a lot nowadays.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And quite honestly, I would probably be more lenient

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_01]: if Leah hadn't known what the correct decision was.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: She had said it beforehand.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: She is saying it after the fact as well.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I knew what I should have done.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just trickled out.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_09]: I do think it's it's a scary move to make, though.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like because there is the idea that like, OK,

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_09]: if I just put one trio up like one side up,

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_09]: then only that side is mad at me and the other side is like,

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_09]: oh, you protected me.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And if I put them both up like someone from both sides,

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_09]: then they're both going to be mad at me.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_09]: So then there's no chance that if I like, I bet her thinking was,

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_09]: well, I mean, like I'm sure her thinking was

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_09]: that if Chelsea sidewinds HOH next week,

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_09]: she'll be safe because she saved them.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_09]: She didn't target them.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, that's not the case.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_09]: But that is probably the thinking is like at least you could save yourself

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_09]: in one scenario for if this one side wins HOH.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. And that's exactly how Fessy described targeting Scottie.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_09]: That is a that is a this move.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_03]: That is how Howie explained targeting James.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Very much how Howie described targeting James.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I disagree.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't believe that Leah's move is the same as as targeting an ally.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not quite the same, no, but it is definitely still.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think it's smart, but I don't think it's I mean,

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_09]: look, at least she got T-Core out.

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not like she sat there and was like,

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_09]: I got to get Angela because they don't want Angela in the game anymore.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_09]: So I have to just do their bidding like that's what it would have been.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_03]: At the very least, she took out the head.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. But I mean, but to be fair,

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_09]: she didn't originally put the head like there wasn't like,

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, she didn't even put T-Core up expecting T-Core to go home.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't even targeting T-Core.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: She was targeting Rubina.

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think that that's worse.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, she needs to target the head of both of them.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, honestly, it should have been Chelsea and T-Core on the block.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_09]: So that way, the two sides could be like fighting each other, like Mari said.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_09]: But, you know, at the very least, this is not an MJ move.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Like the MJ move is a million times worse because you're putting an ally on the block.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And and you're even more in a power position.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You put both sides on the block.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Then those sides not only have to fight each other,

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_03]: they have to lobby to your side to keep one of them.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how you keep them in line.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how you that's how you prove like you keep them close.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You get so much dirt that you can use.

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It puts you in a position of power.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously this is results oriented,

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think it's a result that we could have predicted was the more likely one.

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_01]: If and when MJ wins the H-O-H after you take out Chelsea is is MJ going after

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah because Leah put Chelsea on the block?

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no.

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ is going after the trio that she just lost the vote to T-Core, Rubina, Timo.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And quite frankly, they are not convincing MJ to go after Leah.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And with this cast, too, even within the season,

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: they've shown that they bounce checks with Chelsea targeting and getting rid of Quinn.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm saying.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's then that's the main thing, too.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, OK, let's say let's say it's OK, we get it.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's scary.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Disappointing that you don't do the bold move, but it's scary.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She still picked the wrong side to target.

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, these people just blindsided you with a Quinn.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And she fell in line.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I do want to say that, like with the chat sitting here saying, like,

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Melissa, you're trying to justify Leah's move and say it was a good move and say

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_09]: that Leah is doing a good thing.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I'm just saying that at least she didn't target an ally.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Be having at least an ally.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We're having a very silly argument, which is who are we allowed to root for?

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_09]: OK, I'm sorry.

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I said she was the underdog.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_09]: You think she's not the underdog right now when she's literally on the block about to go

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_09]: home being targeted by her ally?

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Like she's obviously the underdog.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, you know, I'm not saying she's a great player.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm saying she's literally an underdog.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_09]: So I don't want her to go home.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_09]: But I also don't want to go home because she's an underdog.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And my point is, yeah, I don't care if she's an underdog because she disappointed me.

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So she loses that underdog badge.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I just I just love to see people.

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I love when chickens come home to roost.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You make a stupid move.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_03]: You win super prizes.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You go home.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, again, her move wasn't it's not even her move that that's the bad part.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not she's not the one winning the stupid prize.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ is like it's like she's the collateral of it, which kind of messed up.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Shopify.com.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Should we rate these players?

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's rate these players.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, it's the portion of the podcast where we rate the players from one to ten

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_01]: based on how well we think they're doing in the game.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can play along at home.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a fun time.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_01]: OK.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to this.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's start with Angela on the block this week.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Did not win.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Hoh did not win Vito.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And last week she got those fives because she had won the veto.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Things were looking potentially better for her.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And while it does look like she is going to stay this week, I do think that

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that temporary boost, as I described it, of of a good week has certainly dropped back down.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: On top of that, losing Leah is not great.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So, Melissa, you had given her a five the previous week as well.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Where do you fall on on Angela?

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I mean, I think it's bad.

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Either she goes home or she loses her like only ally.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_09]: And I don't really see chemo and if chemo and Rubino were

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_09]: smart about this, they would pick up whatever whatever person is left over.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_09]: They would say, like, hey, look, like I know it's just the two of us versus these three

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_09]: on the other side.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_09]: We need to join together like whatever.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_09]: But they're not going to do that because they're going to think they're part of the other side

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_09]: for some reason.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_09]: And they're going to I mean, T-Core told them to go with Chelsea.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_09]: So they're just going to go with Chelsea and do whatever Chelsea says.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_09]: And so I I don't see a scenario like normally I would be like, OK, well,

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_09]: if Angela stays, she can join up with T-Core and or with Rubina and chemo and they can

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_09]: form a trio and maybe she has a shot.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_09]: But at this point, I just feel like the one thing that she has going for her if she stays

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_09]: is that they might say, like, well, it's not worth it to like to take out Angela.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I don't know if they'll do that because at this point, it's kind of getting to the

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_09]: down to the wire and who else are they going to take out?

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_09]: But there's a potential that they might say, like, this is not worth an H-O-H.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't want to waste my H-O-H taking her out and maybe they'll target someone else.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, so I think for me, it's like I think it's like a three or something.

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I honestly feel like it's not it's not looking good for her.

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think she did anything necessarily wrong this week.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_09]: But I think even if she does stay, it's just like bad news for her.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a bad week for her.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_01]: She I mean, she loses any kind of narrative that she was picking up steam because she's

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_01]: back on the block now against her only ally.

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And even if she survives, it's as a solo person who if she's not targeted, it's because people

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_01]: have bigger fish to fry.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Part of the reason why I felt like she was building a narrative last week was because

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_01]: she was building a little bit of an army.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: She had Leah seemed like she might have MJ might be a part of a new group that could actually

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_01]: push toward the end when some comps get some credit.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's all gone now.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And on top of that, she's a huge target in the double eviction.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: There is talk of her not being targeted.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But a double eviction happened so fast.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said this on the recap the other night, but like Angela is the exact kind of person

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_01]: that could go in a double because she's so easy to throw up on the block.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And then once she's there, you don't have the time to be like, well, is it worth taking

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: out Angela?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like she's just yeah, just do Angela.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess she's just waiting there for we've been meaning to clean out our Angela for a

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_01]: while.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And now we're like we're right here and we might as well just do it.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Like and and I could I could easily see like an Angela and MJ on the block.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think that's that's like might the most likely duo to be on the block, depending

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_03]: on who wins.

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_03]: But also say Angela does win the double eviction, which she has a really good chance to like

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think she'll have the steam to get whatever agenda she wants done.

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We heard in the episode she said that she would go after a Cam or Chelsea.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, if we're going through history, right, Cam and McKenzie have a very good job,

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_03]: good chance at winning the double eviction veto.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_03]: If Cam comes off or McKenzie takes Cam or Chelsea off that forces Rabina, Kimo, Nam and the

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_03]: remaining trio has the votes to take out, take out the other person.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like even if Angela wins, will she be able to exert her what she wants at the

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_03]: double eviction?

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even I don't even think she can even claim that.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not looking good for Angela.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Either she goes in the double or she gets dragged to the end with no agency.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, she's been here for a while.

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I am.

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I have told you all I am over Angela.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm over her.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll give her a three as well.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel bad for her because I thought she was going to be climbing up that.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, I literally thought she was going to win, like had a very good chance of winning

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_03]: when they and now when I saw that big old banner says McKenzie won itch.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh, wow.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I really thought it was going to come down to McKenzie, Leah and Angela.

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And I cannot believe this is what's happening this week.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_01]: The three for me, the audience, though, a four for Angela, their new hero.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's their new underdog.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about ham because I think cam is interesting.

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like Leah leaving this week has some benefit for him because he no longer like

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: basically cam is an interesting one to to analyze because my understanding of what his plan is,

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: is a losing plan.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He plans Chelsea.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's all we know.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm often thinking like it's a good week when cam doesn't get his way because that

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: makes it that much harder for him to achieve.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's cool.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Just in the way to slow.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Just slowly comes in.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: He gets a 10.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, what do we rate him?

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_09]: He's playing a better game than anybody.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_09]: He's definitely playing a really good game.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_09]: He's got us all wrapped around his fingers.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_09]: So anyway, sorry.

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you, Cam.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So for me, Leah leaving is great for cam because Leah is one person that he probably wouldn't

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: want to sit in the final two with and and wouldn't probably wouldn't take to the final two.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas like Leah staying or sorry, Angela staying is good for cam because a I think

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_01]: he beats Angela and B I think he's more tempted to take Angela than than most other people.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: On top of that, Rubina staying is good and chemo staying is good because it helps Rubina.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that Rubina is the key to cam's victory right now to some degree.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: These are paths that he doesn't seem like he's actively taking, though he is certainly

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: nurturing that relationship.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think this is a good week overall for cam.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_01]: On top of that, I will give cam a lot of the credit here as well for convincing MJ.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't the one that like initiated the plan, but he very much was the one that like

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: clinched it in like without him.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I honestly don't know that MJ makes this move.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And so definitely kudos there for cam.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so hard to give him more than a six when I don't know if he can if he gave

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_01]: any indication that he was going to not take Chelsea.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd give him easy a seven.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe even an eight.

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not, but maybe.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't I just don't think that's what it is right now.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, yeah, I'm not sure hard because I would I how I see cam stick with me here,

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Taryn, and the rest of the chat cam is the hand of the of the queen, Chelsea.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But like in as in like the Kristen Cole way, not the auto high tower.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He needs he needs more auto heights.

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Our yes, Kristen Cole.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly what you guys are talking about.

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I'm sorry.

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like cam comes in like Chelsea comes up with the plans and they do like a one to

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_03]: punch, especially on MJ.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they just work her together.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But the problem is for Chelsea is because people can kind of see her working them,

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_03]: but still want to kind of go along with it.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And then when they take a step back from her, they're like, wait, was I just worked?

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But she's like, but come back here.

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll work you again.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, OK, you're right.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me work.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll take that working.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But with cam, his demeanor is so laid back and so vibes that he is just he's getting

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea's way for her.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, without the one to punch of both of them, like it's really hard to kind

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_03]: of be like Chelsea is doing it all on her own because she's doing a good portion all on her

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_03]: own.

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But cam is such a great wing man for her just from him being so naive when it comes to the

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_03]: game itself.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And we saw actually we saw the exact result of this last week, right?

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam was not on board with her in the same way to keep T-Corp and she was unable to

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: keep T-Corp.

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_01]: She definitely needs cam in there as her backup to see seemingly to get her way right now.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And things tend to get easier as the game progresses or harder, depending.

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But but yeah, so I mean, that's interesting.

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I think like the cam and Chelsea dynamic is interesting in their final two

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: could be interesting.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I mean, until I get indication that he is willing to take anybody else to

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_01]: the final two.

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I am capping him at a six, but that's what I'll give him.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I agree.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_09]: I agree.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I like I'm impressed with certain things that cam does and like the way that he interacts

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_09]: with people.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_09]: And like, I do really like cam a lot, but I just I don't know what's going to happen with

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_09]: him and Chelsea.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think that that's where I'm a little nervous for him.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I kind of wish I could see him doing his own thing or having some like you said, some indication

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_09]: that he was planning on doing his own thing or, you know, I mean, if he took MJ to the

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_09]: end, or if he cut Chelsea or something, I just feel like he doesn't really have like a another

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_09]: plan other than to go with Chelsea.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's possible that he does have another plan.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_09]: He's just not talking about it.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_09]: But at this point, I mean, how are we to know that?

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, he's a six for me as well.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I get it.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_03]: There's it's a lot of passive gameplay for cam.

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not it's not as active.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what's going on in his mind because he's not really telling us as much as like

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea is like when it comes to camera talking.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I do think he's he's just very capable.

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_03]: He's such a capable player and we were, you know, he did there in the middle.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We were scared.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We're like, oh my god, cam, maybe cam just looked up.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He was in great positioning and a lot of it is luck.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's that natural easygoing charisma of his that also is helping him.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And because of that, he is going to make it far depending on how these comps shake

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_03]: out.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_03]: He might be he might get more powerful positions and maybe when that power comes,

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe he will start thinking.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I know I don't want to give I don't want to give ratings on like maybe and potential,

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: but cam's potential is just so high.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to give him a seven.

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just think that he is so socially capable in a way that it doesn't feel put on.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And depending on how some of these next people go out, he might just he might edge Chelsea

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_03]: out in a sense of like, but we all kind of like cam now.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_03]: How now how possible is that?

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe not as possible, but I can definitely see where, you know, if Chelsea keeps having

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_03]: these outbursts, you know, if cam if they keep fighting like they were doing, you know,

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_03]: cam could slip in there.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_03]: He could.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I totally agree.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I totally and I think a seven is is like I said, I was I was considering it too.

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, because the thing is that technically we don't like he's never said to the cameras

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_01]: or I think even in the diary room that he definitely plans to take Chelsea.

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just only told Chelsea, which obviously could be a lie.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Could be something that he, you know, doesn't have feel super strong about my read on him

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_01]: is that he does.

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And so like in some way I'm capping him because of my read on him and not his actual intentions

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and I could be wrong.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And but the and for me, Taryn, I thought the same until last week when he got rid of T

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_03]: core because before that he was saying me to court Chelsea and I was like maybe MJ flopping

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: back is rubbing off on me.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, they're both they're both going their own way.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, MJ flipped back.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess they're both staying because I was actually shocked when it was like cam kind

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_03]: of like helping lead the charge against T core because I really believed him when he

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: was telling Chelsea that like I wanted to be me, you and T core and you know, and in

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, in the episodes they were saying like, oh, because of Chelsea's outburst, it

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_03]: led to him getting rid of T core.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Like so if he's able to flip on T core.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_01]: True.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I do.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like cam is like our inaugural, like if he just knew the show.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I just knew the show.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_03]: He did any little bit of research.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I got to get my dog a seven though.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's what I'm doing.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the audience actually on the other end of this, they gave cam a five this.

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, y'all some haters.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Haters.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_09]: It's interesting that it went down for the audience because I don't think it's worse.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I guess it's like probably different people rating, but still, if you are looking

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_09]: at it as like, oh, the audience last week gave him a six and now they're giving him

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_09]: a five.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I don't think he's doing worse this week.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a look here at the exact rating.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It was it was a close six.

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a five point six five last week and this week it's a five point three seven.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's actually not that big a drop.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It just it just straddles the line around up.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you where the audience is perhaps not hating, and that is Chelsea because they

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_01]: gave her an eight.

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Which is a high rating for the audience.

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just quickly check here.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That is the first eight awarded by the audience all season.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the highest.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Rating all season for a player.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me paint you a picture here of Chelsea.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember a mere nine years ago where a woman graced our screen with her beanie on,

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: with her crying tears, and I hated her all season because I was like, what are y'all

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: doing?

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Can y'all not see that this woman is playing you?

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you not see the threat?

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And we thought, hey, it's hers.

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_03]: The season is hers.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody wrap it up.

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And she was cut at final three.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about Miss Vanessa Russo.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And by golly, if Chelsea is not after this season talked about in the same thing that

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Vanessa Russo is, I am going to be upset because again, I understand that how people perceive

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea and people's thoughts on Chelsea as a person and how she plays.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It is very polarizing.

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I get that.

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And that to me was how Vanessa Russo played as well.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_03]: If you remember, as she was playing, a lot of us were not on her side.

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That is why a lot of people cheered when Steve cut her.

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we can semi rewrite history as like, oh my God, Vanessa is the best.

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: We love Vanessa.

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Vanessa is amazing.

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: She's the best to never win.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But people were not saying that during the time a little bit.

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Taren can correct.

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He'll correct.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I'm really like I'm coming around because when you initially said this, I was

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: thinking in terms of how they played the game, which maybe.

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But like in terms of audience reaction, I think you're onto something.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think, yeah, I'm seeing that a lot.

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I truly feel like the way that Chelsea is getting her way is just it's amazing to

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_03]: watch in a modern season.

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not it's not like, say, a Tiffany in the cookout where she was very strategic

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_03]: and masterful and everybody loved her and everybody could see that she was a strategic.

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_03]: That still felt a little bit more subtle to me.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea is like a bulldozer that is getting her way.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And like.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we hate it because we can all see it.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: They can see it, but nobody's doing anything about it, which is why it's like frustrating.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So I and I just love this type of representation.

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And.

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I think Chelsea Chelsea's gameplay, if she if she wins, if she can actually

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: like put this game away and wins, we need to talk about where she ranks in the winners.

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I do not want to hear none of this bullcrap about she's playing against dummies.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You know why she's playing against dummies?

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Because she got all the smart people out.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_03]: She got Joseph out.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: She got Quinn out.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_03]: T-Core is gone.

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: That wasn't her fault.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But like she got Tucker out.

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: She got all the smart people out.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's not loop Tucker into that.

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, she got.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're right.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: She was Tucker was Tucker was an off for sure.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, yes.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So but I'm.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He was he was OK.

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't the smart.

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He's the cop.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: But but she just got everybody in her way out the moment that somebody she's getting Leah

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_03]: out this week in a position where there should be no rhyme or reason.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah should not be leaving this week.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Like not at all.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's somehow convinced MJ to do not somehow.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: We know Chelsea has actually been working the MJ relationship for weeks now.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_03]: We talked about how she had dropped the ball at one point, but she picked it back up.

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that Chelsea has faced.

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Adversity in the beginning of this game and to come out to where she is now,

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: like there's no excuse you can lob against her as like a, you know, if she won like a.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Top mid tier winner.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: If T-Core, if Quinn hadn't run his mouth and T-Core and Kimo hadn't made that move,

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea would have been quite capable of steamrolling a season.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: We would have seen a horrendous steamroll if they let the whatever.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even remember.

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Keep the collective keep going.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the Pentagon and the.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_03]: College and the.

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like this would have been a steamroll.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that they were able to cut her legs from under her within like at like what week three.

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And then she still rise like and still I rise like that is crazy.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Like think about that.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So I am.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pulling them on here.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm doing it.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It's me.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a mom.

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm giving Chelsea a tip.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I do not care.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so good.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so good.

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I went I went on.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I had to sing her praises and honestly, like I get it.

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Her style of gameplay isn't for everybody.

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But it is like Leah's going home on an MjH weight like.

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Huh?

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Huh?

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, yeah, I think Chelsea has been really impressive this week.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_09]: I think the like you said, the fact that Leah would go home or even literally Leah or Angela

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_09]: on an MjH O.H. is insane.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Like that should not be happening.

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_09]: And yet Chelsea was able to make that happen.

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And not only that, but has got MJ convincing Leah or telling Leah that it wasn't Chelsea

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_09]: or not to blame Chelsea.

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And instead it was like chemo and Rubina.

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And then also add on to the fact that when T-Core left, she told chemo and Rubina to

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_09]: go with Chelsea and they were like, yeah, we're with you.

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_09]: We've got your back.

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's like she doesn't need any more allies, guys.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Like that's enough.

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_09]: She has enough.

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_09]: So it's like it's wild that even with those two, you'd think that maybe those two would

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_09]: realize like, OK, where we need to form something we need to get the outside people.

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_09]: That I say this every single season is that the outside people need to come together and

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_09]: realize they're outsiders so they can rise up against the insiders.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_09]: And instead, they just are like, maybe I can like tack myself on to the inside crew.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, no, you're at the bottom of whatever.

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, I mean, it's it's impressive what Chelsea's been able to do.

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like I'm I just feel like I don't love what she what she's doing with cam.

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Like I feel like and yet it doesn't really matter.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't seem like it ends up mattering that much, just like we just talked about.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like Cam is probably going to take Chelsea anyway.

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_09]: But I do feel like I have to point out that this whole Chelsea cam thing where she says

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_09]: that he treats her so terribly and all this stuff like it's it's it's very clear that

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_09]: like he doesn't treat her poorly.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_09]: He just doesn't treat her like he likes her.

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_09]: And she's upset by that.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_09]: And like and I know the feeling I'm not going to sit here and be like, I have no idea what

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_09]: she's talking about, because like it's like you take it more personally when you like

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_09]: someone and they don't like you back.

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_09]: You're going to sit there and be like, wow, they treat me really poorly, like because

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_09]: he's treating this person way better because he likes her.

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_09]: But in your mind, you don't want to admit that it's that he just isn't into you.

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Like you just have to admit like he's just not that into you.

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Like that's literally what you just have to say and just be like, OK, that's it.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm done.

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not that he's actually being mean to me or treating me poorly.

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I just wish he was treating me in a way that indicated he liked me.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's not what's happening.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_09]: So I do feel like if that stuff wasn't there, I would feel so much better about Chelsea.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And yet at the same time, doesn't seem to matter because it seems like Cam is just going to

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_09]: take her anyway.

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_09]: So, yeah, for me, I very much think that Chelsea's playing a great game.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like I.

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_09]: It's it's difficult because I feel like I don't want to go up to a 10.

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel like I kind of want to stick with what the audience is saying and kind of

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_09]: stick with an eight for now.

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I do think it's very impressive, but I do feel like it's just hard for me to give

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_09]: higher than that when I don't feel like.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if I feel like the gameplay I'm watching itself is that impressive like.

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Versus and I know that we just said like, well, you can't say that she's playing versus

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_09]: dummies or whatever, but it does seem a lot of like like errors on the part of everyone

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_09]: else versus like her.

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Forced air happen like I don't know, it's hard for me to it's hard for me to I think

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I want to give the eight.

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so we actually talked about this in the Q&A this week.

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody was asking about like how do you really determine like what is somebody doing

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: something well and what is somebody just like being bad and screwing up?

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And my first answer was like quite frankly, it we don't determine that.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter what we say the edit and what it looks like will determine it.

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But from my own perspective, what I tend to look for is like, you know, how much involvement

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: did this person have in the decision?

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Did they set things up so that it was a certain way?

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Did they actively talk to the person?

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Was this their goal?

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And at the start of the week, I would say MJ targeting Angela was more an MJ mistake than

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: a Chelsea play, right?

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, she came up with the idea on her own.

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: She brought it to Chelsea.

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She had this idea and you can certainly say that, you know, Chelsea's relationship with

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ sets it up in that way and so on and so forth.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But for the most part, I would say that was a scenario where it was like, okay, I'm not

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: going to say like Chelsea convinced MJ to go after Angela.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: What a mistake from MJ.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: What a poof from Chelsea.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But then Chelsea very much actively convinced or at least helped convince MJ to target Leah.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And while you certainly should still give credit to Cam and to Rubina for the assist,

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: this was Chelsea's plan.

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: This was Chelsea's thing that she wanted to get done and it's getting done.

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's a scenario where it's like, okay, I have to credit Chelsea for this.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And is MJ a susceptible player to this kind of manipulation?

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So is anybody that falls for this.

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, you know, that's always going to be the case.

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And that brings you back to the age old argument of are they just dummies or is this person good?

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, again, the way I'm going to look at it is did the person do the convincing or did

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: they come up with their own dummy idea on their own?

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Because if they had been convinced, then I'm going to give the credit to the other person

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: because there's no way to know how smart or bad that person is at the game without the

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: influence of that other person.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think Chelsea definitely deserves full credit for this.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, all of that said, I did mention this on the update.

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how necessary this move was.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Angela leaving or Leah leaving is fine.

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And there are some dangers, some risks to this move, as we've seen last night.

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Like MJ is starting to question Chelsea in a way where it's like that probably didn't

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: need to happen.

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You could have just let MJ make her own mistake and hands clean.

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's everyone's after Leah next week anyway.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We could look back at this week and be like, yeah, maybe went a little overboard.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that was where she didn't need to do that.

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But for this week, it still displays a level of gameplay that I don't think Chelsea has

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: been able to display yet, which is this actual overt manipulation influence.

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And in terms of her legacy, so to speak, I think this was very good for her.

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: This speaks to a level of gameplay that is hard to reach.

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of people get here.

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And is Chelsea a perfect player?

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Certainly not.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_01]: She has been very messy at times.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The downfall of the collective I would put at her feet to some degree.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that she was given MJ and Leah early, early on.

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And she was just like, get away from me, guys.

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys are lame.

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to deal with you.

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't until way later that she finally realized, oh, you guys are the key to this

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: game.

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, now we get it.

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, she's made mistakes, but she's also reached heights that most players don't.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So when I'm looking at if we're talking about winners, there are plenty of winners that

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: played fine games.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They've played fine games, solid games.

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I could rely on those people to make more consistently good decisions than Chelsea.

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also can't rely on those people to have the level of control and just locked in allies

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: as Chelsea likely would if she ends up winning this game.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's where I think this analysis comes to.

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that it's very early to talk about all this, of course.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I understand why people might be a little reluctant, given Chelsea's past mistakes and

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: given the fact that I think a lot of people are frustrated with the week to be like, no,

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't want to I don't want to say Chelsea's good.

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But like, you know, I think we'll get there, especially considering the path she has in

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: front of her.

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think we are looking at a bit of a two and a half week coronation, assuming

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: she doesn't like fumble anywhere.

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll have a lot of time to kind of get used to it, you know, see how it feels.

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we'll we'll see where it goes from there.

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's a lot of interesting conversations about Chelsea.

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't mean to I apologize if I was a little dismissive in my impression of people

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: who don't want to give Chelsea credit right now.

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think she deserves credit.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And and I think that I'm excited to see where the conversation goes and how she handles

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: the next couple of weeks.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Slow it may be.

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to go with the nine.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I do have some some reservations about the move.

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to quite go to the 10.

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But but yeah, I mean, I think that this is a lot higher, a much higher level of play

[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: than I anticipated for the season.

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_03]: For the Joseph move, like why did Quinn put up Joseph?

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he did not want to put up Chelsea and her crew.

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm just throwing that out there.

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I still to this day don't understand.

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I understand.

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I know why Quinn did it.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I still don't know why Quinn did it, though.

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, why did you do that, Quinn?

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like this misguided wanting to stick with the five people, blah, blah, blah.

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But those five people have been telling you all week how Joseph was getting on that nerve.

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you still put him up?

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I just anyways, I'm sorry.

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't mean to backtrack, but I agree.

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I started in.

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, I think even more so than just like when didn't want to do.

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea was the one actively pushing Joseph.

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, obnoxious.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Practice is like she's practicing.

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that week is a perfect example of like the struggle people have with Chelsea

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: because she very much orchestrated a week where Joseph went home and in a vacuum.

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That is brilliant.

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Then you realize that she wasn't planning to vote Joseph until she heard Kimo's speech.

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like.

[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's like that's like every week for Chelsea, where it's like things are like she's

[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: doing the right things often or she's getting the right results, but not always doing it in

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: the in a way that makes people feel like, can I reliably rely on you to do this?

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I see that.

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So I do understand that reticence.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that at the end of the day, you only have one game to look at.

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And you need to look at how things ultimately shake out.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And if she eventually comes to the right decision, you know, she eventually gets there.

[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So like, you know, like I said, I think there's plenty to talk about.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I interrupted.

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no.

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I was just saying.

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like that Joseph week was practice to like see how far she could get to like

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: wield the sledgehammer for this week.

[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's so heavy handed, like Karen said, it's so heavy handed to the point that it

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: could backfire.

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But until it does, it truly is just a brilliant move in order MJ MJ burned the only two bridges

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_03]: that she really had to get her like like a guarantee path to the end.

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, maybe I don't know, Tanner, where my expectations too high.

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I legit saw MJ win and was like, there is a wide open path for her, Angela and Leah to

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: really make it really far and make it to the end.

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like she said, no, I will say this.

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say this.

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I did.

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I did think this was a possibility.

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to be mean to MJ and like be like, hey guys, MJ might be this.

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But like I think I did bring it up a couple of times.

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I wouldn't be that surprised if MJ or cam back toward Leah.

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they'd initially do it, but like with Kelsey in their ear all week and

[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: man, this makes me upset because I did not remember to do my stock watch picks this week.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I started the stream for Thursday's episode and like two minutes and I was like, oh,

[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot to do stock watch and people like, who would you go in on?

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And I quickly looked, I was like, Chelsea.

[01:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, oh, well, we all, we all went in on MJ.

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, ooh, I would do that.

[01:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I have no dog in this fight.

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been telling everybody I did not do the stocks this year.

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I forget every, I forget every year, every week in my head.

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It's only man.

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I missed out on the boon of a lifetime.

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm pretty upset about it.

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't actually usually like get that invested, but the fact that I almost

[01:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: feel like I missed out on real money on this.

[01:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is one of the all time big jumps.

[01:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was there.

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I just like, I, that was the move I was going to make.

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe it.

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_09]: This is a huge jump.

[01:20:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, let's talk about chemo.

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Not as fun to talk about chemo.

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there, I mean, is the best thing to happen to him this week is that he's been falsely

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_03]: attributed with the move that he didn't make.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, like I think that's good because it gives him more credit.

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the veto was used on him.

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_09]: I just, I'm so disappointed in chemo mainly because like, I really like him and I really

[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_09]: want him like, I like him as a person and I really was excited to see him play.

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_09]: I felt like he was really, you know, I really thought he was going to be like a major player

[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_09]: because he seems to really like the show and like, he just had all the tools there.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And then like, I just feel like he hasn't done anything.

[01:21:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And then, I mean, like since that initial him and T-Core flip thing, like it's just

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_09]: been nothing.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And then now, you know, I just really, I really dislike the whole, oh, well, T-Core told us

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_09]: to go to you, Chelsea.

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_09]: So we are.

[01:21:39] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think it's also possible.

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, sure that they're just saying that and they want to like be like, you know, kept

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_09]: safe or whatever.

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_09]: And they just want to say what they're going to say.

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_09]: But I just feel like I'm not, I don't hear him like give any indication that they know

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_09]: where they are in this game, like where their place is in the game or what they need to

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_09]: do to move forward or like even caring about winning at all.

[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And the fact that MJ tells him that she's going to use DeVito and take him off the block.

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And he's like, is that good for your game?

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Like that absolutely should not have been what he said.

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Like he should have been like, great, that's fantastic.

[01:22:16] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, whatever.

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, I want that.

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And I just feel like while he's correct in asking her that, like, is this the right move

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_09]: for your game?

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Like he shouldn't be bringing that up.

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_09]: He shouldn't have any like give her any indication that this is a bad move because it's good

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_09]: for him to be removed off the block.

[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_09]: And yet I just feel like I don't feel like he's arguing for himself or even trying to

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_09]: like when he was on the block or when he's been on the block recently, like I don't feel

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_09]: like he's really fighting.

[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_09]: And so I kind of I'm just like, he can kind of go because I want people who want to be

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_09]: there and I want people who really want to fight for it.

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_09]: And I just don't feel like we're getting that fight from chemo.

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel bad for chemo because I feel like this game is a really beat him down.

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it really has been on the block so many times, really beat him down.

[01:23:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And we've said we say when you're on the block, your room to maneuver is nowhere near as like

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_03]: that.

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_03]: The leash is not as lenient as it is if you're not on the block.

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You're just low level fighting for your life.

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't make anything.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You have no strategic power or anything like that.

[01:23:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Chemo has not had power.

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I would want to see chemo with power?

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I want to see it just to see what happens.

[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, do I do I have faith in him to make a strategic move?

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you would have asked me at the beginning of the show, I would have said

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: yes.

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I know he's a pretty big fan.

[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he understands the game, but I just honestly feel like he is he's kind of been

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: over it for a while.

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's kind of like built up this wall in a sense because of everything that's happened

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_03]: to him.

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And then on top of that, you know, it goes to show you how like even the most extroverted

[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_03]: people on the outside and the outside world that you meet and you're like, oh, that guy

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_03]: is so extroverted can honestly be an introvert like on the inside and at home.

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And again, you are living with these people 24 7.

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I just kind of feel like, you know, chemo chemo is just losing himself a little bit

[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_03]: in here.

[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's and it sucks.

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It sucks.

[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I really wish I could have seen a better game from chemo than what we've seen.

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It reminds me when when when T-Core when T-Core was HOH and and when Tucker and T-Core were

[01:24:38] [SPEAKER_03]: well not Tucker because he was I think he was on slot, but like when he when T-Core

[01:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: is HOH and we saw like the scheming and we saw like him like them trying to figure out

[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: between Leah and Angela.

[01:24:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he was a paranoid mess.

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he was kind of like up and down, but I actually love to see him involved.

[01:25:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he was more involved than and it just seems like after Tucker left after he's

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: been on the block like three or four times straight, he just kind of is done.

[01:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just it's just sad to see.

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I feel bad.

[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I want him to win at least like one HOH so he can live that out for him.

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I could see what he would do with it.

[01:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that honestly, both Rubina and Kimo still have a decent chance to win

[01:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: if they actually started playing.

[01:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is that, you know, they're basically in like Riley's Promise 2.0.

[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, like they don't even have the relationship with Chelsea like that.

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Then T-Core did and T-Core didn't even quite frankly have as much a relationship as you

[01:25:48] [SPEAKER_01]: thought at least.

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But but they're both still like following the lead of T-Core from the grave and thinking

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: that they want to go to the end with Chelsea, who is literally the worst person that they

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: could do that with because she not only beats them in the end, but has the most amount of

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: other options and doesn't need them the most.

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And so if they literally did anything other than that, I'd be giving them much higher ratings.

[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But from what I've seen so far, they are fully invested in T-Core's Promise.

[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And for that reason, I've got to give Kimo a three.

[01:26:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, three sounds right to me as well.

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Same for me.

[01:26:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And same for the audience.

[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_09]: There you go.

[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about Leah.

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she didn't make the worst move of the week.

[01:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?

[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not her fault.

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit her fault, but yeah.

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

[01:26:56] [SPEAKER_09]: I guess if I was her, I wouldn't have assumed Mackenzie would make such a move.

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Like I really would have thought, I don't know.

[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you could have done more to prevent it.

[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to like quickly like flashback, like let's take us back.

[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Take us back to Chelsea's H-O-H week.

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah says MJ is just a puppet.

[01:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ is just a puppet of Chelsea.

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I need to put Chelsea and T-Core on the blog.

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, flash forward, flash forward.

[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[01:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I could never have seen this coming.

[01:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: OK, that's a great point, Tara.

[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That is that is a great point.

[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Do we think there's a chance she stays?

[01:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, no.

[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't make sense.

[01:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even for like like Kimo and Rubino, which I I think that's the better way.

[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, yeah, she needs she absolutely needs MJ.

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which she has temporarily.

[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So she has one accomplished.

[01:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Now she needs either Chelsea and Cam or Rubina and Kimo.

[01:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Rubina and Kimo should be easier to get as votes.

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But how do you get them to coordinate with MJ?

[01:28:15] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you retain MJ if she's not with Chelsea anymore?

[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to turn MJ against Chelsea, which is a huge step to in the get MJ plan.

[01:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And then on top of that, you have to get MJ on board with Kimo and Rubina,

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: who are the people that you're blaming right now.

[01:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a really messy, tough situation.

[01:28:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The other side of it is get and get MJ with Chelsea and Cam,

[01:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: which would be easier to get MJ because MJ doesn't have to detach from Chelsea.

[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't have to turn on Chelsea to make that move.

[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And and you can you can still paint Rubina and Kimo as the bad guys

[01:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and say that I'm going after them.

[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's an easier argument there.

[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is, why in the world would Chelsea do that?

[01:29:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: After she spent a week of hearing you say that you should get rid of her, it's

[01:29:10] [SPEAKER_03]: like again, Leah didn't do the worst on her age.

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just now that it's kind of like coming home to Bruce because it's like Kimo and Rubina

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: don't want to vote for you to stay because you just targeted their side.

[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You just got rid of T-Core.

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want you to stay.

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Then while you also targeted their side, you know.

[01:29:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea already knew like her and Chelsea have been playing this kind of Cold War thing

[01:29:36] [SPEAKER_03]: since Chelsea's age, when when Chelsea thought about getting rid of Leah but took out Quinn

[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: instead and even before that on Chelsea's first age, she heavily considered taking out Leah.

[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like you've been doing this Cold War thing back and forth between Chelsea and Leah.

[01:29:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just like, unfortunately, Leah Leah did not pull the trigger.

[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like she should have last week.

[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And Chelsea is getting the chance to pull the trigger.

[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And she is now like it's you can't we're not it's not the house perception might be like,

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_03]: oh, this was a week in the making.

[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_03]: No, this has been what four or five weeks in the making.

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You know I'm saying like it's a done deal.

[01:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So I give Leah two.

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Two.

[01:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's such it's so sad.

[01:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so set in stone.

[01:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I genuinely don't think there's a chance.

[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And on top of that, I'm gonna I'm gonna give I'm gonna give a little bit of a

[01:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: last week correction as well.

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm giving Leah the one I think I think she's done.

[01:30:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's any way out for her.

[01:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: No, there's no way out.

[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But I want to do something funny with my next vote.

[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was genuinely my biggest reason I wouldn't give her a one is because I don't

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: think she should have the same ratings MJ.

[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But like what can I do?

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I have no zeros.

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_01]: What happens if I put it in?

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Does it even work?

[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it does.

[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, we can get zeros all this time.

[01:31:15] [SPEAKER_09]: All we had to do is just put it in.

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no, I think for Leah, it's a two for me, unfortunately.

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Like I think that this should not be happening to her this week.

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_09]: I think this should have been a week where she doesn't have a problem.

[01:31:30] [SPEAKER_09]: But there we have it.

[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_09]: It's unfortunate, but it does seem like she is going home.

[01:31:34] [SPEAKER_09]: And and even if she doesn't go home, like I really feel like she'll have a tough time

[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_09]: if Angela is gone.

[01:31:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's like similar with Angela.

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like if they're losing an ally this week and I don't know, you know, I don't know

[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_09]: if they have any chance with chemo and Rubina to try and win them over to try and target

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Chelsea or something.

[01:31:55] [SPEAKER_09]: So, yeah, unfortunately, I don't really see a way out.

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, the audience gave Leah a three, which makes me even feel even better

[01:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: about the one because it's a better balance here.

[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just quickly do something here.

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: If this works, no, it doesn't.

[01:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a one for MJ as we bring up MJ.

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it's been talked to death.

[01:32:24] [SPEAKER_01]: What genuinely what else is there to say?

[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a one.

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a one, especially because it's not just, oh, she had an H.O.H week and it was she made

[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_09]: the wrong norms or whatever.

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_09]: She then won the veto like and then she it's literally like she really is just double.

[01:32:41] [SPEAKER_09]: It's and she had all the power this week.

[01:32:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's not like, oh, no, this happened and I have to do this.

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Like she chose to use the veto.

[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_09]: She chose to put Leah up on the block.

[01:32:51] [SPEAKER_09]: This is all her fault.

[01:32:53] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just so bad.

[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_09]: It's it's really unfortunate because I really thought I mean, look at her scores from last

[01:32:58] [SPEAKER_09]: week.

[01:32:59] [SPEAKER_09]: We were giving her sixes and sevens.

[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_09]: This is a huge drop.

[01:33:02] [SPEAKER_09]: This is and this is a shocking job, I think, because I think we've all been kind of saying

[01:33:06] [SPEAKER_09]: like maybe MJ knows what's going on.

[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe she's like turning it around and she's she's playing her own game and maybe she's

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_09]: really awakening or whatever.

[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_09]: And turns out, like, unfortunately, she's not.

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_09]: And it sucks because I really thought I mean, she really, I think, could have been in a

[01:33:21] [SPEAKER_09]: really good position to have both, you know, the Chelsea cam people on one side and then

[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_09]: also create something with Leah and Angela.

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And if she had just gone after Kimo and Rubina, I think this would have been a smart week

[01:33:37] [SPEAKER_09]: for her, like a really smart.

[01:33:38] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's such an easy thing to do.

[01:33:41] [SPEAKER_09]: It would have been so simple.

[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_03]: She had a relationship with the two of them.

[01:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all season long and honestly, season after season, people often ask me the question,

[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: is this.

[01:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The worst age of all time, is this an all time bad age, right?

[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: They asked me, is this an all time bad age?

[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm usually the stick in the mud.

[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's like, I'm sorry, but there's reasons why it's not.

[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not how it's not, Bessie.

[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just like there are reasons why it's not right.

[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I had to say that about H.O.H. is like twins, right?

[01:34:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, it was very bad.

[01:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't an all time bad.

[01:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We finally reached it with MJ's H.O.H.

[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: There's zero excuse for what she did.

[01:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no actual reason that she should be doing this.

[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And the optics of it are as bad as they can be.

[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, and Jerry James being played for a fool.

[01:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: She went from, you know, the potential front runner to probably can't win the game in one H.O.H.

[01:34:55] [SPEAKER_01]: This is an all timer.

[01:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: This goes down as big brother legend as one of the worst H.O.H.'s you've ever seen.

[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And and the audience, you should be ashamed of yourself for not jumping on board because

[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_01]: you bought MJ stock.

[01:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You gave her a two.

[01:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm giving her a one, maybe like.

[01:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I wow.

[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I cannot.

[01:35:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the fact that she really had the veto and doubled down on an even worse move is just

[01:35:30] [SPEAKER_03]: it's iconic.

[01:35:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I, I can't.

[01:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was laughing.

[01:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I was laughing like two or three weeks ago when MJ said, I got this whole house wrapped

[01:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: around my finger.

[01:35:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I laughed.

[01:35:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, ha ha ha.

[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But then Taryn comes in and turns like, well, she's not wrong.

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That is a data.

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_03]: She's on the rise.

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, dang it.

[01:35:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And then she played well last week.

[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, dang it.

[01:35:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I will never get rid of her.

[01:35:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And then this week, I mean, she's still here, but like this is just bad.

[01:36:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But she looks great.

[01:36:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I've said that on here, but she looks amazing in the episode.

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: She looks amazing.

[01:36:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy.

[01:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, she masters both hairstyles like I don't know how.

[01:36:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's like literally we can never take away from her that amazing vote that she gave

[01:36:25] [SPEAKER_09]: where it just was like an award winning performance.

[01:36:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's just she looked beautiful.

[01:36:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And then she does the whole like deep breath in and then she gives up.

[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_09]: It was just so amazing.

[01:36:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I love that so much.

[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_09]: I love it.

[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And Angela couldn't call that a low budget performance.

[01:36:40] [SPEAKER_09]: No, that was so good.

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I love that.

[01:36:43] [SPEAKER_09]: So like, I don't want to take that away from her.

[01:36:45] [SPEAKER_09]: But this certainly is not a good week for her, sadly.

[01:36:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look at this.

[01:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got a video incoming, I guess.

[01:36:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, please.

[01:36:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Which, by the way, I don't think I've ever said this, but my brother, like he stopped

[01:37:01] [SPEAKER_09]: watching Big Brother a while back.

[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Like he used to watch with the family like we all would watch.

[01:37:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Now he doesn't watch the show.

[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_09]: He only watches like Peridium and Ethan Animal or something.

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:37:14] [SPEAKER_09]: He watches their two videos and that's it.

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Like he's always talking about Big Brother to me.

[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, are you even watching the show?

[01:37:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And he's like, no, no, just I'm just watching those their videos.

[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, that tracks.

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like it's an angle of the show that I think a lot of people are interested in.

[01:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, there's a lot of other stuff that comes with the actual show.

[01:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you just want to like look at like records and strategy and like cool things that happened.

[01:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, he loves that stuff.

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_09]: It's so funny to me.

[01:37:45] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, just watch the show with me, too.

[01:37:47] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, you could talk about like, no, there's too many episodes.

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_09]: There's too many episodes.

[01:37:51] [SPEAKER_09]: So he just like doesn't it's too much.

[01:37:54] [SPEAKER_09]: So he can't feels like he can't keep up, but he loves watching their videos.

[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So, oh, he might like Big Brother and so on.

[01:38:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So, so ours.

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[01:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The condensed.

[01:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:38:06] [SPEAKER_09]: I'll tell him to look at that.

[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.

[01:38:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Rubina, let's talk about Rubina.

[01:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I personally, it's a lot of the same of what I said about chemo, but a little bit better.

[01:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she has better relationships.

[01:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: She can help contribute to seriously help contribute to getting Leah on the block.

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just that I just feel like she's still running into a dead end.

[01:38:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give her a four.

[01:38:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was I'm definitely giving Rubina four.

[01:38:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I I love Rubina's spirit.

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, she's one of those people like you got you got moxie like she she just so personable

[01:38:50] [SPEAKER_03]: and she accidentally helps herself.

[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Rubina.

[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I really do.

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Again, if her and Cam just knew the show just a little bit, they could be dangerous,

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_03]: especially together.

[01:39:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:39:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just so unfortunate that they that they don't have that just baseline knowledge.

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But I love Rubina.

[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I really do.

[01:39:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And she is way she she's just way more active than chemo, even if it's not by much.

[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_09]: I like Rubina a lot, I guess, a person.

[01:39:24] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, I'm just so disappointed in her game.

[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_09]: I just wish she was playing a different game.

[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to give her a three because I feel I feel similar about her as I do chemo.

[01:39:33] [SPEAKER_09]: And I just wish that they would just like snap out of it and just start doing their

[01:39:37] [SPEAKER_09]: own thing.

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I just I yeah, it's hard for me to watch.

[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_09]: So, yeah.

[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a four from the audience.

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's going to be it for the Stock Watch this week.

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: What a rise and fall for for Chelsea and MJ.

[01:40:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I like all time rises, all time falls here for literally five to nine, six to one.

[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Yikes.

[01:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So going to see some big changes on the leaderboard, I would imagine.

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And and I'll just be sitting there not getting any of the rewards.

[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you just hold?

[01:40:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was holding.

[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot.

[01:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot to do anything.

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember two minutes late.

[01:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And I and I and I can't cheat.

[01:40:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we go in there.

[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Fix this up a little bit.

[01:40:46] [SPEAKER_05]: That's all right.

[01:40:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I have one and one.

[01:40:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Marty, you did.

[01:40:52] [SPEAKER_09]: You got a 10 in there and a one.

[01:40:54] [SPEAKER_09]: That's a very.

[01:40:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

[01:40:56] [SPEAKER_09]: See that combination.

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We got we got a one, which, of course, is is we got no fives, but we got a one.

[01:41:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But we also we got a 10.

[01:41:08] [SPEAKER_05]: 10!

[01:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That was from Angela's radiation task.

[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's so long ago.

[01:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: My that's my favorite part is that Angela must say 10 last.

[01:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So she keeps saying it.

[01:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll just play one more time.

[01:41:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, 10.

[01:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, let me just say it.

[01:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I 10.

[01:41:53] [SPEAKER_02]: 10!

[01:41:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of want to an excuse for you to clip a series.

[01:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course it is.

[01:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course it is.

[01:42:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I love I love that clip.

[01:42:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, boy.

[01:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that is what we have for you this week on the Stockwatch.

[01:42:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we'll be back next week to give all kinds of more ratings for you.

[01:42:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And see how the season continues to compare to Big Brother 25.

[01:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, we'll be back tomorrow morning.

[01:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: 11 a.m. Eastern update and everything happens today on the Big Brother 26 live feeds.

[01:42:30] [SPEAKER_01]: There will also be an episode tomorrow night, a 90 minute episode.

[01:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: When we started this podcast, they were shown a little teaser for the summit.

[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: With Manu Bennett of Spartacus.

[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: My from my.

[01:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[01:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So that'll that'll be interesting.

[01:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see where what happens with the summit.

[01:42:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I imagine we're going to get a lot of summit in the 90 minute episode, but we'll see.

[01:43:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But we all know we also have to do the robot movie.

[01:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So where's the summit coming in?

[01:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this Thursday.

[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I look forward to all that stuff coming up.

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[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_03]: We finish our series, Hollywood Black, which is a great docuseries on a four part docuseries

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[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It's amazing.

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But of course, we also again broke down some topics and entertainment news from the week.

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[01:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[01:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, you can find Melissa at it's Melissa with three days.

[01:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we have for you this week.

[01:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you all so much for joining us and we will see all of you next time.