BB26 Roundtable: The Final Stockwatch, Week 12

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello everyone and welcome to the final Big Brother 26 Roundtable Podcast of the season. This is of course the podcast where we talk about everything from the feeds, we rate the players from 1 to 10 based on how well we think they're doing in the game and we talk about plenty of other things as well. Survey questions and in this podcast because the final one of the season we're gonna talk about jury votes, we're gonna talk about season as a whole, we're gonna talk about all kinds of things. I'm your host Aaron Armstrong and with me as always to talk it's

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_03]: through. It's Melissa. How are you doing Melissa?

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing great. This is, it is wild to think that this is the last roundtable of the season. It just feels like it went by so fast. I can't believe we're about to like crown a winner and everything. Like, I thought we still had like two weeks left. So I was like talking to Dennis about our schedule and I was like, Oh yeah, well okay so like we have the roundtable on Tuesday and then we've got the finale coming up later in like a week or so two weeks and I literally was like, wait a second. It's like,

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: coming up this weekend. Like that's crazy. So yeah, I'm totally off. I have no idea what's going on. Uh, apparently. So yeah, very excited to talk about it.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Less than a week away and also with us this week is Chantel. How are you doing Chantel?

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Chantel. I'm doing really well. I, you know, I've been really enjoying this season of Big Brother. It's different than I, you know, I usually like a lot of really strategic seasons, but this has been a really enjoyable personality season. So I'm kind of sad that it's coming to an end because we didn't have like all these terrible dramas really to be dealing with on this season. Not like not as many as usual anyways. And so I'm sad that it's coming to an end, but I'm happy to talk about it with you too.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. Well, uh, of course there's not much left to discuss beyond the end game, uh, possibilities in terms of this week. There's really not a lot to recap. Of course, the last time we spoke, it was chemo and Rubina on the block. It was looking like chemo is going to leave.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And then things changed and it looked like maybe chemo was going to stay, but then it turned out. No, in fact, chemo was going to leave. And he did in fact leave followed by Chelsea winning the HOH MJ winning the veto. They are both now in the final three and the choice is now MJ's between cam and Rubina, which of those two, she will plan to keep and bring to the final three.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, now she initially seemed to be leaning toward keeping Rubina. Uh, Chelsea made some solid arguments or I should say solid to McKenzie, uh, arguments, uh, like, Hey, you see how comfortable Rubina's being? Um, cam also then spoke to McKenzie and implied that he was willing to cut. In fact, implied that he was needing to cut Chelsea. If he wanted any chance of winning the game.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_03]: To her, uh, she now seems fairly decently in the, I'm going to evict Rubina, take cam camp. Uh, though she has still not talked to Rubina about it yet. Rubina plans to talk to her. So there's still definitely room for this to change. But, uh, as of right now, looking a little more like it's going to be a final three of McKenzie, Chelsea and cam.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. Yep. I mean, I mean, you kind of knew that this was coming.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Chelsea wants to have both, um, McKenzie and cam in the final three. And we've seen throughout this entire season that even if she kind of wavers one way, she always comes back to doing what she wants for the most part for her game. And it's better for her game to have two people in the end that will more likely take her to the final two. So I, I kind of knew that this was coming, even though.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So it would make sense for MJ, I would think to maybe keep Rubina if Rubina kind of proposed to her, like, Hey, I'll take you to the end. Um, I don't know if she did that actually. Did she end up doing that?

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: The Rubina? Rubina still has not spoken.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. I was like, I don't think she has, but so maybe if she does in the end, maybe that will change. But, um, at this point, I think that Chelsea's going to get what she wants here.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. I feel like, especially like if MJ's thought is that Chelsea is her number one ally, like she's been saying this whole time, like if Chelsea's like her best path forward, et cetera, like she's going to do what Chelsea wants. And it's, I feel like it's, especially if Rubina is not really making the effort to convince, like, I feel like you would really need to put in the work to convince Mackenzie to take Rubina.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like it could be done. It just has to be attempted. And if it's not even attempted, like, I don't think Mackenzie on her own is going to come to the realization that like, Oh, you know what actually might be better for my game. Maybe I should do this or maybe I do that. I just, she hasn't done it this far. I don't really see that happening now. Uh, so yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's, it's, it's, I'm not surprised. I'll say that.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, again, she does plan to talk to Mackenzie, uh, at some point it was supposed to be today.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But like, it's, yeah, it's like, do it, do it now, do it before, do it multiple times.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: What else are you talking about?

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to just like put it on pause and be like, at some point I'll set an appointment and then I'll talk to her. Like talk already. Like that's what should have been happening immediately.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. It's, um, it's not really the game they're playing. They're, they're playing. Uh, I have one conversation when I'm on the floor.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I would be thinking the whole time. I'm like, okay, when is the best time for me to bring up this? Like I, I'd probably be bringing it up all the time. And that would probably be like, Oh, she's so annoying. She keeps like getting reassurance from me. Like I would probably be irritating about it because like, I really would want to lock in like, Hey, no, I'm taking you like keep in this game.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't, I don't think I'd be able to let them breathe a little bit. So it's wild to me that she just is just not even bothering keeping herself in the game or putting any effort in anyways.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's really catching you up to speed in terms of what's currently happening in the house. Of course, it is interesting. This implication from cam that he might be looking to cut Chelsea in the final three.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, if it's true, it's fairly significant. I would not count cam out of a final three HOH win by any means. Um, especially the scenario where he wins endurance McKenzie wins part two and it's him versus McKenzie part three. There's a lot that could go wrong for Chelsea there between cam winning.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And just the fact that cam and MJ will have so much time to talk, uh, without the fear of it mattering. Like cam, I think right now is implying that he will cut Chelsea, but he's not outright saying it because he's worried that it will get back to Chelsea.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But if it's cam versus MJ in, in part three and they, uh, they have like a day or two to, uh, to talk without knowing that Chelsea won't be making any decisions anymore at all. That gives him a lot more time. Now I say that.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And it probably means that he'll have a one conversation with on Sunday night. Um, but, uh, you know, certainly you could see the world where some things go wrong for Chelsea. If any of that is true and he's not just blowing smoke, uh, trying to make sure he stays this week. Um, and at this point we don't know for sure.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He's definitely implied in the diary room a few times that he knows that he needs something to win in the jury. Um, and that he was willing to go to the end with somebody like chemo and that, uh, you know, this idea that he needs to make a big move definitely feels true. It's just a matter of like, is the big move Chelsea or is it MJ? Uh, does he see that clearly? He says, I see things clearly. I know what I'm doing. And it's like, I don't know that yet. Cause you haven't told me exactly. You haven't told me you told MJ, but I don't know if you, I believe

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: what you tell MJ, tell me, tell me, tell me Kim. Yep. Yeah. And also like, it's tricky because from an outsider watching him cutting Chelsea would be like, Oh my God, the big move, the explosion, you know, whatever. But to the jury, do they see that as enough of a move? I guess they it's, they don't see what we've seen, which is like him being a like quote unquote loyal soldier to Chelsea, this whole game that like him turning on her

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: is a big deal. And that like throughout the game, he's been making moves with her, but maybe not being like out there in front or winning competitions or whatever. Like, I mean, we've seen him participate, but I don't know if the rest of the house has seen him participate while being in there with him. And especially like, you know, when he gets called out by Zingbot for like not doing anything. And like, it's just, I could see a situation where

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: he gets to the end, he cuts Chelsea. We're like, that's it. That was the big move. He did it. And now it's him versus MJ. Like I could see, you know, the jury, the jury will go for Cam. But then the jury's like, well, MJ won a bunch of comps. She did more. Maybe her moves to us, her moves were not the smart moves, but she's there in the end. She's in the final two chairs. I could see the jury being like, Hey, she did what she had to do to get to the end. And then boom, MJ is the winner.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think that the mood is not as cut and dried with Cam cutting Chelsea as being like, if he cuts Chelsea, he wins. Like, I don't think that's the case.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it is. It is cut and dry in the sense that if he doesn't cut Chelsea, he loses.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, yes, of course. But, but like, that's kind of all that matters.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Usually you see a situation where it's like, oh, they cut if they cut the big threat in the end and like, it's very clear that they will win.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know if he'll get enough credit for doing that or like the rest of his game.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know if he'll be able to like fully explain why he had to cut Chelsea, what he was doing the whole game enough.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And if it even matters because the final two speeches, like sometimes don't make a difference at all.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and also think that Chelsea will be pissed big time.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And if she has any influence or if they're able to hear what she has to say about, you know, how how her eviction went down.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I could see her swaying a lot of the people that might have voted for her to just put all those votes on to Mackenzie.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And that would be the trio and her.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that enough?

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I would.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: All Chelsea needs to do is say to the jury, like, I did everything.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Cam did nothing.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He was he did everything I asked him to do.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He was a loyal soldier to me.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he cut me in the end.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he doesn't deserve this win.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, he's saying, I look at me.

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I did all these moves like Chelsea and I did moves together.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I could imagine a scenario where Chelsea's like, no, I did the moves.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He just did whatever I said.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't deserve this win if she's pissed at him.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, to be fair, I could find a scenario.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I could imagine a scenario where Chelsea's I mean, if I'm in the jury and Chelsea's saying that that makes me vote for Cam even more.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, look at how much he snowed you.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He just cut you.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You underestimated him so bad.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, there is there is this scenario where it's like she believed he was a loyal soldier.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Turns out he's not.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I think I think Chelsea has T-Core.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Or the question is like Rubina and chemo.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not like at finale night.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_03]: They can't be talking a whole lot.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And and they are also probably not going to be seated next to each other because they're not not next to each other in the eviction order.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So they can't even really be whispering too easily.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, if I'm like Quinn, like I'm definitely feeling like, oh, Chelsea, the best player is pissed that Cam just cut her because Cam just made the biggest play in the entire game by taking out Chelsea.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm giving Cam my vote.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to give it to MJ for wanting to take Chelsea to the end.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's Quinn, right?

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, is it is it Leah who has been fairly fond of MJ despite the move that she made?

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it enough for Angela who really likes Cam but sees him as a floater?

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Is the move enough for her to combat that perception?

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like there's there's questions there.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And then and then there is Rubina and chemo who who both have bonded a lot with Cam lately and talked about how Chelsea needs to go.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And and definitely would, I think, respect the move.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But do they have enough of like, you know, a kind of drive to combat the influence of of T Corp and Chelsea?

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, it's as Melissa said, not a guarantee by any means.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But but like the door is certainly open.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like I feel like another obstacle he might run into is like if the jury values like loyalty, like, you know,

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you see juries that are like, I value the loyal player.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, he betrayed her.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He Chelsea and him were working together the whole time.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he's like backstabbed her.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to I don't want that representing my season.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I could see a situation where people are like, we are friends here.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe he did this and like not vote for him for that reason.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't see Quinn doing that, but like I could see others doing that for sure.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Anybody that does that is a hypocrite, especially this season.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, the good people.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So we need the good people to win.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm sure.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure they saw a lot of loyalty with MJ and Leah, right?

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, we're talking about jury votes here.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I did.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I put out a survey.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You still have a little bit of time to fill out this survey, but I put out a survey this week that was asking some questions.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: For instance, one of the questions was predicting jury votes.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: How do we think the jury votes will go?

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And I did ask for the various scenarios that could happen, one of which was MJ and Cam.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So the audience thinks that in a scenario where it's MJ versus Cam.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ will get Quinn's vote.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: 71% of the audience thinks MJ gets Quinn's vote.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you clarify like how they get there or is it just like the scenario?

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: They're there.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I would assume personally that if they get there, the only way they get there is if Cam cuts Chelsea takes MJ.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: We know that MJ plans to take Chelsea.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So if they voted thinking MJ cuts Chelsea, they're voting in what is currently a fantasy land.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So they said, yeah, they said 71% Quinn votes MJ, which I thought was interesting.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that personally, I think Quinn would be more prone to respecting the move, but it may depend on the speech and it may depend on like what he's hearing.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, this may also though come from the most solid vote that they think MJ has, which is Leah.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: 89% of the audience thinks Leah votes for MJ.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And if Leah votes for MJ, she said she had at least two votes in the jury locked in.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, she may be pushing him in that direction.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so that's two votes for MJ.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_03]: The audience also does think fairly confidently.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: 81% of the audience thinks Angela is also a vote for MJ.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: This one I'm not as sold on, especially if Cam's the one to make the move on MJ.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I do think she likes Cam more.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the question is, does she respect his game enough?

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And if he makes a big move at the end and he's able to articulate himself well, I think that there's a chance he could pick up Angela and Quinn, uh, as votes.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But, um, but the audience thinks that those three votes are in for MJ.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they also think Chelsea, 59% of the audience thinks Chelsea will also vote for MJ.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and that MJ will win a Cam versus Chelsea final two by four to three because they see all of the trio voting for Cam.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you mean Cam versus MJ, right?

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam versus MJ is what I meant to say.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, wait, whoa.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, a lot of names floating around.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So basically the audience thinks, uh, T-Core and these ones are close.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: 56%, 57%, 51%.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_03]: They think T-Core, Kimo and Angela all vote for Cam over MJ.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they think Quinn, Leah, Angela and Chelsea all vote for, uh, MJ over Cam.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I gotta say, I feel like I disagree with the audience.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Ooh.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll buy a decent amount here.

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I feel like T-Core is more likely to vote MJ.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Quinn is more likely to vote Cam.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think, uh, like Kimo and Rubina, I think it's fair to say they might be in the 50% range, um, one way or the other.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But I certainly wouldn't put like Quinn and Angela at 71 and 81% respectively.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like they are not that locked in for MJ by any means.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I would say a lot of people vote for Cam in this scenario.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm kind of confused as to the results just because I feel like.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I think like, I think MJ won a lot of competitions, but I do think that like.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I see more people voting for Cam than, than MJ.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's, I think I would see a Cam win in that scenario.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can also see like if MJ is able to articulate the fact that, okay, yes, she ended up betraying some of her allies, but she did get to the end.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And so if she can say like, this is what I needed to do to sit in these seats here today, they might feel okay with like her, her being there.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause you know, it was worth it to her in the end.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It actually had the result that, you know, betraying Leah here.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, she was able to get to the end and hopefully we'll still get her vote.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe she's able to articulate it in a way that makes her feel like, Hey, I'm sorry that I had to do this to you, but it's what I felt I needed to do to get into this final two chair.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: They might respect that.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I think also, um, like for somebody who, like, for example, Leah, who gets evicted from MJ, you kind of want the winner to be the reason that you got out.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, the winner had to take me out rather than just like a random casualty of the game.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you, you kind of want to be like, yeah, it was smart to take me out because I was really good.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, and, and the winner knew this.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So in order to win, she had to take me out.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like there is logic in like wanting the person who took you out to be crowned the winner.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So that way it like makes you feel a little better about the fact that you had to be taken out in order for the winner to get there.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It just like adds to the storyline instead of being like, yeah, I just some random person took me out and they didn't win.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the part of the reason why MJ is leaning toward evicting Rubina one that an argument that Cam made, um, which is that he feels like, uh,

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: or he's making the argument that Rubina is a bigger jury threat than him.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_03]: She has two locked in votes already.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_03]: She has a good story.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is the reason that's being cited by MJ a lot for why she's now leaning toward evicting Rubina.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Now I did ask the audience also, let's say it's MJ versus Rubina.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, is Rubina actually more of a jury threat according to the audience?

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and the audience is way more confident about all of these votes, uh, almost all of them in the 90% range for confidence.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, they think that MJ beats Rubina five to two, as opposed to the four to three, they thought with Cam.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So they actually think Rubina is easier to beat than Cam and they are more certain of it as well.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: 87% they think Quinn votes MJ.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_03]: 93% they think Leah votes MJ.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: 84% Angela votes MJ.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: 93% they say Chelsea votes MJ.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And that alone is four votes.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Then they also think, uh, with roughly 75% of the vote that Cam would vote for MJ.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and that the only two Rubina votes would be T core and chemo both at 96 and 97% confidence.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, uh, they think that that's actually a stronger win condition for McKenzie and that therefore that is a better person theoretically to take down to the final three.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually, I think I agree with the, with the audience here.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And I also think that if that's the scenario that's painted, I think that Rubina might be easier to beat in the final three.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Had a powerful, like all the three that usually are, you know, if it's one that's running back and forth and putting numbers, like she's smaller.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it takes her a little bit longer to get to, to things, or if they have to climb stuff or stack or pull stuff.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think that Cam is going to be a more of a physical threat and is likely going to win at least one or even two of the parts of the final three.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's, here's the messed up thing, right?

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_03]: We could say Rubina is the better person to take because she may actually be easier to beat in the final two and she'll be easier to beat in the final three HOH.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_03]: However, knowing what we know about McKenzie and what she plans to do, it may actually weirdly be a better move for her to make the worst move.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_03]: If we're saying this is the worst move and may, and bring Cam to the final three with her because he's more likely to beat her in the final three.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And because if Cam beats her in the final three, he will save her from making the mistake of taking Chelsea and she still has a chance to beat him.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And that is her only win condition is being in the end against anybody, not Chelsea.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't plan to do it herself.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So she has to rely on the person she brings to the final three to do it for her.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_03]: He's selling me on this.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the kind of analysis you have to make when people are not playing for themselves.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's true.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: How can we get this win for you?

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So Chelsea might win the game if she makes the worst decision for herself this round.

[00:23:13] Okay.

[00:23:14] Got it.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not Chelsea.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, McKenzie.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But yes.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's MJ versus Cam.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ versus Rubina.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, MJ versus Chelsea.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: The audience thinks that MJ also beats Chelsea.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Or sorry, that Chelsea beats MJ.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoa.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Five to two.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, they think Quinn, T-Core, Kimo, Rubina, and Cam are all Chelsea votes and very split

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: decision, but 58% for both Leah and Angela, they think would be votes for MJ.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so they do think that Leah and Angela by a small margin, they think this may be a counter

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_03]: votes here.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, although if Leah is able to pull Quinn, all of a sudden that's three votes, which is kind

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_03]: of wild.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, um, and you know, maybe there's a scenario if this is true, if Leah and Angela are able

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_03]: to pull Quinn and Cam is bitter because Chelsea cuts him to take MJ, like that's a world where

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ does beat Chelsea, but it's a, it's a pretty fantastical one.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, if we're being honest.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, like I, I, like I said earlier, like I could see a situation where Leah and

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Angela are like, well, or like I'm voting for MJ because like she took me out because

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: she knew she knew she needed to or whatever.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and now look at her, she's like, I want her to win, but I do feel like I think

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: they would recognize.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think they've already recognized Chelsea's gameplay throughout the season.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think that they recognize she was a huge threat.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So I, I don't know if I necessarily agree that they would vote for MJ.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I could see them voting for Chelsea because they would respect the game that was

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: played.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's certainly Paul.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that, um, the thing is that, and both Angela and Leah did not have a great relationship

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: with Chelsea.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and they both had a better relationship with MJ.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and you know, you can kind of tell from the jury segment, and this could be fake.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It could be a misdirect from the, from the jury segment, but you could, you know, the implication

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_03]: was that Leah was very much rooting for MJ to win.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so certainly not impossible to imagine this world where the two of them are trying

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_03]: to cast votes in that direction.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But, uh, I think regardless, it's, uh, too tough a hill to climb.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and that Chelsea will still beat MJ.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I also of course asked Chelsea versus Cam and Chelsea versus Rubina, um, against Rubina.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_03]: The audience thinks that it is a six to one win with chemo being the only vote for Rubina.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_03]: 55% confidence that T-Corps would actually vote Chelsea over Rubina, which, um, still not

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: sure about that.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, certainly possible.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and then the most lopsided vote, Chelsea versus Cam, they think will in fact be unanimous

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: with very high confidence on every single vote that Chelsea would just straight up beat

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam unanimously.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And, um, you know, assuming that Cam cuts, uh, MJ, I think that's pretty clear.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_03]: If Chelsea cut MJ for Cam, I do still think MJ votes Chelsea, but, uh, the audience said

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_03]: 97% MJ votes Chelsea.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have my confidence a little lower than that in the event that Chelsea cuts MJ.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, though I do still think that she would vote in that direction.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I agree.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, I think MJ would be hurt by that.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And especially if it's like right at the end, there's not a lot of like decompression

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: time of being like able to, you know, take a step back and be like, Oh, well, I get it.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there were reasons behind it, whatever, like it'll be immediate.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And then she has to go vote.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, at that point, it's hard to kind of put your feelings aside and be like, ah,

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, game recognize game or whatever.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I could see MJ being hurt by that, especially if MJ really wants to take Chelsea and thinks

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: that they are like locked in.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and including being like two women of faith sitting at the end when he gets to

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Julie.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that whole portion of their dynamic, I think that that could maybe affect her

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: wanting to vote for Chelsea.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think in the end, she'll come around and still want to give Chelsea the vote.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But I definitely would take that percentage down to closer to maybe 55%, 60%.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I think that she could be, it could hurt in a way that's deeper than they're giving

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: her credit for.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, tellingly the audience thinks that only MJ and or Chelsea can win this game.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They think that Chelsea beats anybody she sits next to, and that MJ only beats Rubina or

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam, which I think is pretty accurate, even though I don't necessarily agree with the specifics

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: of their predictions.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I did ask the audience to rank the players from their favorite to the least favorite one

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_03]: last time with the final four.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You guys think you can nail the order here?

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: My, my guess, I was thinking about this and I'm like, I can see them liking everybody and

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_01]: also not liking anyone.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So my order, I think is Chelsea, Cam, Rubina, MJ.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was thinking as well.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You are both close, but not quite there.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It is Cam.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought about it, but I was like, I wasn't sure if they would give it to Cam.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam was the favorite last week as well.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So he has held this spot, uh, two consecutive times now.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And it is Cam, Chelsea, Rubina, McKenzie is the order here.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and Cam's a little sweetie.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: There's actually no change from last week.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Just chemo was removed.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it was last week.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam, Chelsea, Rubina, chemo, McKenzie.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Chemo is eliminated from the order now.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And it is just Cam, Chelsea, Rubina, McKenzie.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But I did then ask who are you voting for to win America's favorite player?

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Angela.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say this, the RHAP audience will probably either do Angela or Tucker, but.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I can tell you the RHAP audience voted for vote, had zero votes on two players.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, zero votes of all the votes, zero votes on two players.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Those players.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Lisa and Kenny.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Lisa and Matt.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Matt.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought he might get a vote.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Kenny came in with a whopping zero percent rounded down of the vote.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Which means he got one vote.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He got one vote.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's sweet.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But the top vote getter for America's favorite player with 37 percent of the vote.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So not a majority by any means was in fact Angela.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker came in second place with 21 percent of the vote.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Cedric or Rubina?

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Neither.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Ah.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Rubina was actually right above Kenny at zero percent.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Jeez Louise.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Jeez.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe because they think she still has a chance to win.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're like, yeah, we don't need to give her that.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Cedric, uh, is in sixth with four percent.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, am I forgetting people who are entertaining?

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe Cam?

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Cam?

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam just below Cedric at three percent.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, uh, Leah?

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Quinn.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn?

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_03]: In fourth with ten percent.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe T-Cor?

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_03]: T-Cor in fifth with five percent.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn?

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn in third place.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I said Quinn.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I said Quinn.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't hear me.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That was difficult.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That was really hard.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Very hard.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually forgot about this.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh yeah, those people.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Tellingly, at least for this audience, um, 37 percent is not going to carry any day.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And if this is even a little bit representative of the online community, I think that, uh, what

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: that means is that the casual audience, which already is very likely to carry a vote, um,

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_03]: is not likely to be influenced in any way by the internet audience, uh, as, um, the internet

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: audience being this split, uh, means that they, their voices will not likely.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be Tucker.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, the casual audience always wins the day in these votes.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that who that they've been?

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I've heard both for the casuals.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, both these.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I've heard so much hate for Angela.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, maybe not now, but in the beginning that I feel like there'd be a lot of people being

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_00]: like, I mean, and just going off of my parents, they, they, like, love Tucker.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And my dad does not like Angela.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, I could see a situation where like a lot of casual fans kind of go in that direction,

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: like, and just kind of like vote for, I, I feel like it's a Tucker.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's we're, we're racing towards a Tucker win.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you guys have heard any of this.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I've talked to a few, uh, casual viewers and, uh, they've all really liked chemo.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So my mom really likes chemo as like a person, but she said he was a dud because he didn't

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_00]: do anything, but like, she did like him as a person.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So I do think that like, maybe if they're just voting purely out of like their heart or

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: whatever, like, but I do think like my mom was disappointed in him.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe like she wouldn't vote.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: She, she liked, she liked the, the chaos that Tucker brought and the, like the, you know,

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_00]: what's going to happen next sort of energy.

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I'm going to like, I want to play the game.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm just going to, I'm going to do whatever it takes sort of vibe.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of the song, have they played it on the episode?

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I haven't heard it produced.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a segment.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they're saving it for the finale.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think they gave one segment, one singing earlier in the season.

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, wasn't it like just chemo singing in the HOH room and just like, but it wasn't

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_00]: like that, the song.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, some classic questions here.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I asked the audience to rate the episodes this week.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, also worth noting, uh, you know, in terms of the effectiveness here last season, America's

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: favorite player, 42% clocked in for Sari.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, uh, if I look for cam had 3% of the vote, but he was in, uh, fifth place overall.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so that's where, uh, the audience, this audience was last season.

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_03]: This week rate, the episodes out of 10 last week, the episodes were 4.6 this week, a 4.3, 4.3,

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_03]: uh, compared to last year, the final week before the season ended at 3.5.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So still beating out last season's, uh, final week of episodes.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, as the audience rate, the feeds this week, last week, there were 3.6 this week, 2.6.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so bad.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: They're so boring.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_03]: 2.6, which actually is the exact same rating as last year.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_01]: 2.6.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so apparently the mafia is exactly as entertaining as the final four here in big brother 26.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then finally rate the season as a whole so far last week, a 7.3 this week.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the final rating final time to get a rating in during the season.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that may have influenced some of the Raiders because the rating actually came

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_03]: up to 7.4 this week.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, compared to last season, 4.9.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, geez Louise.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, last year started off so good, but it did.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So couldn't recover.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So I also asked, uh, to rate Chelsea or rate MJ's HOA train last week.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, last week it was given a 3.5 this week at 3.6.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So the audience did not change their minds on that.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I asked the audience to rate Chelsea's HOA train this week and it's a 6.4, which is,

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, sure.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Not a lot of decisions to make, but the ones she has made have been good ones.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So, um, I asked the audience who should MJ evict this week?

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And the audience said Cam 80%.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Despite thinking, uh, or I guess because they maybe are thinking that Cam is harder to beat

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_03]: in the final two.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, um, perhaps more likely to take Chelsea.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, there's certainly plenty of reasons to think.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think it's also just like Chelsea is pushing this.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Therefore, it must be bad for MJ.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_03]: This might be true.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that would be my logic.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be like, well, if she wants it, then it must not be the best move for me.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, I also asked the audience, who do you want to be evicted this week?

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And 63% of the audience said Rubina.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what I want.

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Because like, if, if Rubina was trying harder, I'd probably be like, you could do it.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'd be rooting for her, but she's not trying.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just like, well, then I guess she can go.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Rubina's in like the perfect spot to be like a classic underdog.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I keep hitting my mic.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a classic underdog.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause you know, she's been, her allies have been taken out one by one.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: She's on her own.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if she was really fighting this week to stay, I feel like everyone would be behind

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: it.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, you got this Rubina, you can do it.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that she just doesn't seem to really, I mean, throughout the season, I ever

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: wanted to actually like put in the work.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like, uh, it's, it's hard to want her to stay.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like, eh, well, if she's ready to go and she doesn't really care, then that's

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: fine.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: She can just go like it.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I would, I like Chantal said, like, I really would prefer that she fight and want to stay,

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: but you know, it just doesn't seem like she wants to do that unless like, I mean, I guess

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: like supposedly she's going to talk at some point, but that's not enough.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't make me feel at any confidence that she actually will do it.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, should we rate these players?

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: There's just four of them, but we do need to rate them.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, of course this is the portion of the podcast where we rate the players from one to 10 based

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_03]: on how well we think they are doing in the game.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, uh, with only four of them left, might not last very long, but, uh, we will start

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_03]: with Cam, uh, who is still possibly going to be evicted this week.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it is certainly a possibility.

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ could change her mind and Cam could leave with, uh, meaning Rubina goes to the final three

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: in his place.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, however, um, he, the fact that he seems to be indicating that he's willing to cut Chelsea

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_03]: tells me he is not quite drawing dead in the way that he certainly would be if we thought

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_03]: for sure he would take Chelsea.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, uh, he like, I'd almost say that Cam is like almost less drawing dead than MJ is

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: because MJ plans to take Chelsea.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But the only scenario where Cam wins is the one where he sits next to MJ.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and that's also the only scenario where MJ wins.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're almost at exactly the same, like it's just who gets rated higher is almost like

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_03]: who do we think wins that jury vote?

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think we know for sure who wins that jury vote.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So then it to me comes down to who's making better decisions right now.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I think Cam is making better decisions.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_03]: He's planning to potentially cut Chelsea and MJ is not.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So I, for those reasons, I think I have to rate Cam higher than MJ, but that feels weird.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking like, do you know what though?

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam is doing kind of a better job.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of just picturing it that he's staying for whatever reason, but I forget that he's

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: actually on the block and could go home.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that, that, that, that helps bring him back down.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Then maybe he's not higher than MJ.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, when MJ does have the power, she's not leaving.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: She will be able to at least make that decision for sure.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I think she is higher in that sense, but where are we starting?

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Where's our baseline here?

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I also think that like MJ has a clear story to tell to the jury.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the, the jury can easily see what MJ has done.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's very easy for her to say, like, look at me in that first week, you know, Matt

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: gets taken out.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm all alone.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I have no allies.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I claw my way, you know, back into the game.

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I, I make some allies.

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I win many competitions.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I get out like threats, even though they were like her allies, whatever, but she could argue

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: like I got out like big threats and you know, I just kept winning and I wouldn't

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_00]: let, I wouldn't let anyone take me out.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like started for the bottom.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm here, you know, that sort of thing.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can see the argument being made to the jury.

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's very easy to see what she has done.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can just, it's on paper.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_00]: That is, she's very impressive.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I think from the outsider's perspective, when we know like, Oh, that was a bad decision.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, that wasn't a good decision.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_00]: She's kind of just like doing whatever Chelsea wants.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: She really shouldn't be taking Chelsea.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, obviously we're looking at it from that perspective, but it's much easier to tell the

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: story of McKenzie than it is to tell the story of Cam.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the thing for me is that like, if you are up against Chelsea or up against MJ in

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_03]: the final, uh, final, which one is better?

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_03]: This one, this one, well, let's stick with this one.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, if you're, if you're Cam and you're up against McKenzie and you cut Chelsea to take

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_03]: McKenzie, I feel like you win the game with one question.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And the question is MJ, if you had beaten me in part three of the final three HOH, who are

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_03]: you taking to the final two?

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_03]: She says, I was going to take Chelsea.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to be loyal.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Lose.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you maybe lose the game off of that answer.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe win because you have a bunch of people in the, in the jury that like values loyalty

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and it was like, wow.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think chemo does.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think chemo does.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that Rubina would either.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and those are key votes.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I, I don't think Leah, I think even Leah is frustrated with that answer.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I certainly think Quinn is.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, uh, and I, and I think Angela's frustrated because like, I'm thinking about like chemo talking

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_03]: to Rubina saying like MJ and Chelsea know they have to cut each other.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that was a narrative in the house.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I agree that that, that, that is not a, as strong an argument as it might've been

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_03]: in a different season.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And we also certainly know that like, um, you know, when I talked to, to Corey on the,

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_03]: on, on one of the updates recently, he taught, he said that like, he wasn't even thinking

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_03]: in terms of, uh, who might take who, uh, it was just because of what he learned in

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_03]: the jury house.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Like if Matt's there, he's not winning.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_03]: If Jag's there, he is winning.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and the, so to him, it was like, well, obviously I still, it wasn't a huge mistake

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_03]: in my mind that Jag took Matt because we all knew Jag was beating Matt.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but in this case that might not hold as true, right?

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we, they all know that Chelsea is beating MJ, not, not vice versa.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I think like Chelsea does not hurt herself by taking MJ.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like people like, Oh, you had the easier win against cam and you took MJ.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: What a mistake.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: But MJ taking Chelsea might feel that way for some of the jurors.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but it's so hard to predict the jury votes.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And I, you know, having been to a few finales, having seen plenty of them, these live things,

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_03]: um, the jury gets there.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_03]: They've been in the jury house, some of them for over a month and they're seeing other people

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_03]: for the first time.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a crowd, they see their family in the audience.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_03]: They're looking over at their family, like barely even paying attention sometimes to the

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_03]: speeches because they're making hand signals at their family.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and each other about like, Hey, look, that's my sister.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, like that can happen too.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And like, none of this matters at all.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So like you, you definitely have to take that into consideration.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_03]: All of this analysis that we might do about like how people might see the final move or

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_03]: all of this, how people might interpret the final speeches.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's like, are they even paying attention, let alone willing to open their minds to changing

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: it?

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and that's where, yes, you could see that.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's just a binary thing.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_03]: If Chelsea there win, if MJ there without Chelsea win, if cam there, sorry, you've lost.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, I actually think that's really interesting because I, I mean, I thought, especially like

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: when, when Corey said during one of the updates about how, like, like you said, he was like,

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: we all on the outside were like, Corey's in that jury.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to care about like all these various factors and all these things that we out here

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_00]: are analyzing because he, he's a super fan.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He, you know, he watches podcasts, whatever, like all this other stuff.

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we were like, this guy's going to think about these factors when he's making his vote

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_00]: or went during finale night, he's going to be looking for X, Y, Z.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes and he's like, yeah, like, no, I wasn't, I wasn't looking for that stuff

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: or like, it was not crossing my mind during finale.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's like, yeah, obviously we want like the sanctity of the vote and all that sort

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_00]: of stuff.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But like, it, it wasn't, it wasn't how we were picturing his thought process to be.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so I do think that's extremely interesting because if Corey's thinking that way, like

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_00]: imagine what these other people are going to be, you know, like these people who don't

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_00]: really, it's not really that important to them about like voting for someone.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he just was like, I want to get out of here.

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The finale, whatever, but I'm done.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be in this jury house anymore.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_03]: The jury likely cares significantly less than anybody watching the show.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they've already made their decision and they kind of have an idea how it's going

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_01]: to go.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We're always thinking that the jury is like this, like, I don't know, very, wow.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like this prestigious like position and like, they're really taking their job seriously.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, is it a bitter jury?

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it not a bitter jury?

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, no, they just like literally want to leave.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just a thought that like, we're so not in the same mindset as like the jury.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It makes me really question like, what are we even talking about here?

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I don't know.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So did that help us come up with a number?

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, for me, I have to, I have to look at Cam and MJ in the same, like, I, I feel

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_03]: like I can't rate Cam without making sure I'm considering MJ as well, because I do think

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_03]: they both have the exact same wind condition.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_03]: The difference is that Cam, I think is at least trying to get to his wind condition, whereas

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ is actively trying to get away from it.

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and for that reason, I'd give Cam extra credit.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, he's currently on the block and may go home this week, which would

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_03]: drag him back down.

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so then the question is, where does MJ fall on the rating scale?

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, what are her chances to win?

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, her chances to win right now are, does she lose the final three HOH to specifically

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Cam?

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And does he actually make the decision to cut Chelsea instead of her?

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And that feels so narrow.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, like it feels so significantly narrow.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And for that reason, I feel like it, it's like, as long as she is planning to take Chelsea

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_03]: to the end, it feels like her rating has to be very low because I think her wind potential

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: is very low.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and it's like, is she a three?

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she might be.

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not mad at a three at all.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, we've seen her making just a lot of bad decisions.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And if, if she was doing something like even just talking it through being like, you

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_01]: know, Rubina and like that she, I could maybe be Rubina and, or like maybe Rubina could take

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_01]: me, like if she was just talking some of these things through, I could maybe then bump her

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_01]: up, but she kind of a shut down any other possibilities of her putting herself in a scenario where she

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_01]: could win.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so three is very fair.

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I, even if you went lower, like I'm not even upset about it, but I think at this point I

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: can agree with the three.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it seems fair.

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very difficult for me because I feel like all this time I've been like, she's making

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_00]: the dumbest decision.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_00]: She's making such bad moves.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, sure.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_00]: She's winning, but like, this is going to catch up to her one of these days because

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_00]: she just keeps making dumb moves, but yeah, look where she is.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, well, she just keeps winning comms.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's the thing.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It's, it doesn't matter.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like all these, all these like, oh, well, you know, she needs these allies in the end.

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Why did she get rid of Leah?

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's, it doesn't matter.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: We talk about that in the event that you don't win the comp, but if you do win the comp,

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_00]: nothing matters.

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So in this situation.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Until you decide who you bring to the end.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_00]: She's, she's here.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just feel like she's got such a, I think at this point, my concern this whole

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_00]: time was like, she's making these boneheaded moves that are getting allies out.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like her allies are leaving.

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_00]: They're going out one by one.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She's not actually making like real headway with like Chelsea.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I, Chelsea still use Cam as her number one ally.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And Mackenzie's like, oh, I'm the number one ally of Chelsea.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's not.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And to me, it's like, I don't, this whole time it's been building up to like, yeah,

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_00]: but she's gonna, she's gonna get taken out because she doesn't have these allies anymore.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, she's winning.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So no, she's not going to get taken out.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it didn't matter.

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_00]: None of the stuff that happened mattered.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it just didn't matter.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like all the strategy talk, all the stuff we said didn't matter.

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause you just kept winning.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like one of those things where it's like, if you can't get them out, they're going to

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_00]: make it to the end.

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they have a, they have a decent chance of winning.

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, we can stay here all we want and be like, yeah, but if she chooses the wrong

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_00]: person, like she's still sitting there in the final two chairs and she, she could win.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she could win.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Against Chelsea.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she could win against anybody.

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think, I'm not saying like she's gonna win against Chelsea.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying like, I don't.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: She's putting her position to have the possibility.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she has the possibility to win.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we don't know exactly what, what the jury is thinking.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: If she gets to the end there, like I could see a scenario where people are like, well,

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_00]: look at what she did.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_00]: She clawed her way to the top.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: All these wins really matter.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I just see, I see the lot.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that she's drawing dead.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think she's done enough for people to be like, look at all this stuff she's done.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Look at that resume and then vote for her.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know if it's going to happen, but I think that the idea of like, well,

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_00]: if she takes Chelsea, that she's, she has no shot.

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to give her a very low score.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Like to me, like the fact that she's probably going to be there in those final two chairs,

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have to give her a pretty good score.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And by pretty good.

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, not like that great, but like, you know what I mean?

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like I have to give her a two.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm just kidding.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I honestly, like I'm starting, I'm thinking like, I feel like I have to give McKenzie and

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Cam like similar scores because I just feel like I don't, I like right now to me, like

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_00]: as I'm like viewing this, I feel like I want to be like Cam and McKenzie are like fives.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Chelsea is like a nine.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Rubina is like a two.

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that, that's honestly what I'm thinking right now.

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, cause I feel like it's like, well, we don't necessarily need to go through every

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_00]: single person.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that, that's what I'm thinking.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think, I think you make a good point, which is sort of what we talked about,

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_03]: which is that like, it's not like it's completely impossible.

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_03]: If you do assume that Leah and maybe Angela are still MJ votes over Chelsea, like, you know,

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_03]: there's a world where you could pick up a couple of extra other votes.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like Rubina did say to MJ at one point, I would vote for you over Chelsea.

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't know if that holds after she evicts Rubina at the final four, but, um, you know,

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_03]: like, and again, you never really know.

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Like one of the reasons why we were so confident that like Matt would have a good shot last season

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_03]: is because multiple people left the seat, left the game saying Matt is the best player

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_03]: bar none.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then in the jury house, they changed their minds completely and it was never shown

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_03]: in any of the segments.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so like it's certainly possible that like what we're seeing in the segments are misleading

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_03]: us and that, uh, what we've heard in the house, like Quinn saying Chelsea is the best

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_03]: player.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he has changed his mind, right?

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I don't think so, but it's certainly possible.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you also have to consider the idea that like, there is still a small chance that

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_03]: she will change her mind and not take Chelsea to the final two.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and instead take cam in which case we think that she's much more likely to win.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, uh, so I think, I think that's true.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that in a spot where she looks like she's in a very good position to make the final

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_03]: two, although definitely don't discount the idea of Chelsea winning that final three HOH

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and taking cam, um, which I think she is more likely to do than taking MJ, uh, personally

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_03]: because that is the more guaranteed win, but who knows?

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and, um, and then, you know, I, I think there's a world where I could be argued up to

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_03]: a four for those reasons.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I do think that five just feels too high to me for a person I genuinely don't think is

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_03]: going to win the game.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_00]: See, I, so for me, like I, I feel like throughout the season, like my ratings are based on how

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_00]: they are performing in that week based on the decisions that they're making based on

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_00]: how that, I think that will impact them in the future moving forward.

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And so for a lot of the weeks I was thinking, you know, McKenzie's making these terrible

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_00]: decisions.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that is going to impact her next week because she won't have any allies because

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_00]: like this person will be against her, you know, whatever.

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_00]: At this point to me, like we're at the end and none of the stuff that I thought was going

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_00]: to matter for McKenzie has mattered.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the fact that she like took out her allies.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean it never mattered though.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying it never mattered.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying like, oh, all my ratings are wrong.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying like now I'm not looking at why those decisions were bad.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And now that's impacting the future because it's losing faith right at the end.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't matter.

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_00]: She's here.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, you know, she's winning all these comps.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And so none of the stuff that I thought might impact her has mattered.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So because of that, it's hard for me to look at it and be like, yeah, but you know what?

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_00]: She made all these bad moves and like, you know, that's going to come into play.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just feel like she's here.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_00]: She has a chance of winning.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_00]: She's probably going to be in the final two chairs.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And like, to me, that's, that's pretty good.

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think, I think my argument would be the reason why they didn't matter is because

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_03]: she won comps.

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But what we are looking at at the end of this season is a spot where she can't just win

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_03]: a comp to win the game.

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_03]: She has to, she has to rely on the jury votes.

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so this is the time when all of that stuff may come catch up to her.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Essentially.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It may, but it also may be seen as look at all these comps that she won.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_00]: She's so impressive.

[00:56:30] Yeah.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We have to give it to her.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, but there's also those two scenarios.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Like she, she ends up keeping Cam here and Cam decides that, you know what?

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm going to be loyal to Chelsea actually.

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to cut MJ and go to the end with Chelsea.

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, maybe Cam is going to lose, but she's also putting herself in the position where

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Cam could take Chelsea over her and Chelsea could take Cam over her.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's also a potentially a bad decision that she could be making.

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that she should be working on Rubina to have somebody that's guaranteed

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_01]: that's going to be taking her in the end.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's not doing that right now at all.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know.

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think I can give her a five.

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I've given people that have been doing a lot more for their games a five this season.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Chantel, where are you with McKenna?

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I was getting up like the four was coming, but I think I had to go back down

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_01]: to I think I'm going to be a three for McKenzie because I just don't have any faith in her

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_01]: game.

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I know you're saying that if she gets to the final two, she does have a chance at winning

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and I do hear that and I respect that, but I don't think that she's actually going to

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_01]: win.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_01]: She'll have the chance, but it's just such a low probability that I can't really give

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_01]: her a full point credit for that personally.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So right now, obviously I can be influenced, but I'm going to stick at a three.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give her the five.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Five.

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_00]: A five.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And then guess what?

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give Cam a five so we can say, wow, another five.

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I can tell you that the audience was with Melissa on that one.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Five.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Five.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_00]: See, I call them like I see them.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Very.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I can.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a four point four nine.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_03]: For Cam, just rounding down to a four from the audience.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I almost had both audience.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm giving, yeah, I'm giving Cam a five.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I think too.

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So as an outsider, like I honestly think he played a better game than a five.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think he played a really excellent game.

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that he, um, I, especially for someone who can't win comps, which like is not what I

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_00]: thought I would be saying about Cam, but like, he's someone who can't win comps.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not good at comps.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And yet he's still here.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He's, you know, not at all the way I thought he was going to be coming into the game.

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I really thought he was, I mean, it seems like he was cast as like the jock, like whatever.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just a sweetie pie.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said earlier.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that he got himself in a really good position and he never really was.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there was like brief moments where he was like in real danger, but I just feel like it was the fact that he's still here, um, is, is impressive.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that he's, he makes, he's been making good decisions throughout the game.

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe boring decisions, maybe not really making decisions because he's been with Chelsea and he's been safe.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But like the fact that he hasn't had to make any crazy decisions like that to me, that's impressive.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think that, I think he has a chance at winning.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he has a chance of going home, but I think, I think it's more likely that he stays.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he could, he could win.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And especially if he's sitting here and he cuts Chelsea at the end, like to me, that shows that he knew what he was doing.

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he knew what he needed to do to try and get that win.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I, I think like it didn't make any sense for him to target like Chelsea or MJ throughout because they were keeping him safe and they were like, if he can't win comps, he needs, he needs people to protect him.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So I, I think he played an impressive game.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I think there is, there is a chance that he's not going to win because I think that the jury might not see.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's much, much easier to paint a picture of MJ's game to the jury than it is to paint a picture of Cam's game.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I feel like Cam could really sell his game at the end.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like, I feel like at this point, his game needed to have been sold during the, um, goodbye messages and explaining, like, I have been working with Chelsea this whole time.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And we have been targeting blah, blah, making it seem like you are like an equal member of this huge Chelsea thing.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, cause at this point it doesn't feel that way.

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like you're like a minion of hers and maybe he is, but I think he could have sold himself as like, we are jointly making these decisions.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We're jointly doing all this stuff behind the scenes and you had no idea.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And now look where you are, but he didn't really, he's not really doing that.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think he could have sold his game.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he is.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that makes me concerned for him in the end.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I mean, I mean, already kind of spoken about Cam at this point.

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I, I think that while I, cause the thing is that MJ's rating is directly tied to her chances of Cam taking her to the end, which requires Cam to stay.

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but, uh, Cam leaving, I just think is too much of a possibility for me to not dock him a couple of points on it.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, because while I do think it's likely he stays at this point, there's absolutely a huge chance of a big surge from Rubina.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: She hasn't even talked to MJ yet and it's still only Tuesday.

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, uh, and I know that MJ was already leaning toward keeping Rubina before it's only changed recently.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, it could absolutely change.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And I have to account for that possibility.

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, on top of the fact that even if he does manage to win that final three, Hoh and cut Chelsea, I still don't even know that he can win.

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, for me, the chances of him leaving this week are too high.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Still, I would give him just one below MJ at a three.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, and for the record with MJ as well, if I, if, if she even hinted that she was willing to cut Chelsea, her rating would probably be like at least a six.

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: If I knew for sure she planned to cut Chelsea, it would be a seven, eight easy.

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but, uh, because she plans to take Chelsea, uh, it has to be a lot lower for me.

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was thinking that like, I kind of have to be even keel with Cam and Mackenzie, but I do think the fact that Mackenzie is staying for sure.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And in Cam has a chance of leaving.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think that I agree with you, Taryn, that Cam has to be the three here.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And I will bump Mackenzie up to the four just because she's not going home.

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So like, I have to give her at least the credit there that she protected herself in this situation, even though I can't guarantee that she's going to make good decisions for herself moving forward.

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the fact that she's staying no matter what is a better position than Cam is in right now.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's, that's, that's pretty much how I felt.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay.

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that of course leaves, uh, we can talk about Rubina, uh, first here.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay.

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Rubina, the more likely person to leave at this point.

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and for me, more tellingly, the person less likely to win the final three HOH, even if she does stay and hasn't currently indicated, like she's has indicated in the past that she was willing to cut Chelsea has not reiterated that yet.

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she will likely tell MJ, she will take her to the end.

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think she will likely mean it.

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but, uh, I do, like I said, think she's a little bit less likely than Cam to win that final three HOH.

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, uh, and I think that's kind of a rough spot.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I also think she's more easily manipulated by Chelsea into taking her once she stays.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, reason being Cam is indicating that he's willing to cut Chelsea while Chelsea is still trying to manipulate him.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas Rubina, who hasn't really indicated what she wants to do right now, regardless, um, hasn't really had to face the Chelsea manipulation for a little while.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, uh, you know, it does that make sense?

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Cam is already kind of inoculated.

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_03]: If he's willing to do it now, he's probably always willing to do it.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas Rubina hasn't had to deal with Chelsea trying to convince her otherwise yet.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, and that could work on her.

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas I don't think it would necessarily work as easily on Cam who is already dealing with it.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but these are little minor nitpicks.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I think the bigger thing is that she just seems to be the one who's leaving this week.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and for that reason, I'm going to give her a two.

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm honestly not going to dock her as much as you might expect for not talking to MJ as much this week.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: At this point, it's kind of par for the course and it's how everyone is acting.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And also, uh, I think that when she does eventually talk to MJ, it can still have an impact.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But, but man, uh, you know, you certainly would like to see it more.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would give the one, but the fact that she could stay and she could have these conversations,

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: um, and she might be here a little bit longer.

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, that's why I agree with the two, um, for, for talk about gameplay though, she's just not

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: doing anything for her game right now, which is really frustrating because we want to see

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: people fight, especially if this is like to get to the finale.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like this is what you've been here for these last 10, 11, 12 weeks, whatever, like is to

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: get to the finale with a possibility of winning and that's right in front of you.

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I, I want to give her the one for the fact that she's not doing anything, but she

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: might still get to stay because she does have a couple of days change her fate here.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll bump her up to a two, but we're being out.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We're rooting for you, but you got to root for yourself as well.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, come on.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We want to give you a higher score than that.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, I agree.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give her a two as well.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like, yeah, it's like, there's been so much like potential with Rubina.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like we see glimmers of it sometimes where it's like, oh, she's, she's saying something,

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: oh, she's going to do something or whatever.

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And then like nothing happens.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just so disappointing because I think she really could be a good player.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think she really could do some damage throughout, I mean, throughout the season,

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: she could have, but she just kind of didn't.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And then, I mean, it literally was T-Core, Kimo and Rubina all like, they all had such

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: potential and they all were just like, we're not going to use it.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: We're, we're just going to let things, let things happen.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's really what you can't do in big brother.

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I mean, it's possible that she's still, something happens.

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: She stays, she could still win the game.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that like, at this point, it does feel unlikely because I feel like it

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: could be argued by any of the other three that they did more than Rubina did.

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I, I mean, at the same time, she does have some locked in votes with the trio

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: potentially.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, she could already have two votes there, but is two votes enough?

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know.

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Rubina is a two.

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the audience gave her a three.

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So there you go.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: That leaves us, of course, with Chelsea.

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea.

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's looking pretty good.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you guys think?

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I like, I mean, this is like the last round to a bill.

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have to like give her a 10 at this point.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was saying nine earlier, but now I'm kind of like, it just feels, it feels a little

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: wrong to not give her a 10 ever because I do feel like she's played such a dominant game this

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: entire time.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And this whole time I haven't been giving her like the highest rate.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've been giving her high ratings.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously it's higher than anyone else the entire time.

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do feel like I haven't been giving her like nines and tens because I just felt like

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: something's going to crash around or there's no way that she makes it to the end.

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no way with the way that things are going with everyone else, blah, blah, blah.

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do feel like at this point, it's like, I do want to give her her flowers.

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She really has been impressive this whole game.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously there have been some missteps here and there.

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously hasn't had like a perfect game by any means, but like, I mean, she's dominated

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: this entire game and she's been really smart about it.

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I just feel, I feel very impressed with her.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I, I think like if she wins, I think that she'll be an impressive win, like an impressive

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: winner.

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I do feel like she would be in the top and the top tier.

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't think, I think there's like the Pantheon, whatever, maybe not that, but

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: like, I do think she'd be like in the top tier of winners, just like with how impressive

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: she's been week to week and how she's been controlling everyone week to week.

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: She's had people working for her every week.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like the start of the game, she had T-Core at working the other side for her.

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And she, I mean, like, you don't really get to see that very much where like the two heads

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: on either side, like they are protecting each other and getting their minions or whatever

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to target other people.

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it just, it was very impressive.

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you've got like, as we've gotten down the stretch, she somehow picked up McKenzie

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: as a very strong ally.

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: She has Cam there locked in a lot of people.

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Leah at one point was like giving her information.

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: People wanted to give Chelsea information.

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to tell her stuff.

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Then obviously they got betrayed and it didn't work out, you know, for them.

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the fact that she had people wanting to work with her constantly.

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, that's impressive.

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: She's, she's played a really impressive game and I feel like I want to reward her for that,

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: even if she doesn't end up winning in the end.

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yes.

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, to, to be clear, uh, at least for my ratings, uh, that these are, uh, these are not ratings

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_03]: for like the player as a whole.

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and like, again, at least you're, you're willing, you're, you can do whatever you want

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: with your ratings.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: The, the, the criteria is open to however you want to do it.

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_03]: For me, this, it's not like when you give Leonardo or DiCaprio, Leonardo DiCaprio an Oscar

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: for the Revenant.

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's like, uh, like I'm not giving a lifetime award for Chelsea, uh, at the final

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: week just because, uh, you know, she, she accomplished so much.

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, for me, I can't, I can't give a 10 flat out because, uh, it's just like, I would give

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: her the 10 if I, if Cam was saying, yeah, I'm obviously taking Chelsea to the final two

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and Rubino was saying, obviously I'm taking Chelsea to the final two.

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And MJ was saying, I'm obviously taking Chelsea to the final two.

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that to me is the 10, uh, Cam indicating that he's willing to not take it.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea to the final two is where it's like, okay, well, clearly there is at least some

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_03]: room there to improve.

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but you know, that doesn't mean I wouldn't give her a nine.

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and for the record, I'm vacillating between a nine and a 10, just because like, I do agree

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: with you.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if I'm just looking at this week and I'm just like, okay, here's what could happen.

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the fact that she could end up getting cut.

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, that's a nine.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But then I do feel like if I'm looking back throughout, okay, let's imagine a scenario

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: where she does win.

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm looking back through all the ratings.

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like to me, I think that that performance, if she wins is a 10.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's what I will say.

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I, I, we talked about this a lot actually on big brother Canada 10 when we rated Kevin

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_03]: all season long.

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and one of the notable things about the stock watch for big brother Canada 10 is that

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Kevin never received a 10 all season long.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, despite the fact that I think many would consider him to be one of the best winners

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_03]: of big brother Canada.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like I'm trying to rectify that.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: What's interesting.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_03]: What's interesting about that is that it actually tells us something about that season, which

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: is that even though Kevin was a very impressive player, he was never actually in a, such a solid

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_03]: position that he would get a 10.

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas somebody like say Cody got lots of 10s because he was so locked in for so long.

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and Chelsea has been locked in for a while, but it hasn't been the kind of season where

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_03]: things are so set in stone.

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_03]: There are still lots of little outs and little things that could happen.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so I think there's some value in the fact that like, even though you might at the

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: end of the day, call it a 10 game, there wasn't actually a 10 along the way because it was

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: actually challenging and it was actually, there was actually some adversity that was being

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_03]: faced.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and also, you know, worth, worth just clarifying.

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: There has been a 10 for Chelsea by Mari a couple of weeks ago.

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true, actually.

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in by me.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in by me.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Certainly true.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Not the 10 generally.

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, like, and then that's the thing is like, I absolutely agree with you.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I think like, like my initial thought was like, give, give the nine, because that's how

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel about it.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: There's still a chance that like, she could not end up in the finale chairs.

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's absolutely a chance.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But then I think about like how I felt when, you know, it's like Kevin didn't get those

[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: 10s or whatever.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, how did that, how did that never happen?

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But no, I, I absolutely get your point of like, it's not that the, his game was never

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that, that game was not a 10, like a 10 of gameplay that, but it's like each week that

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: it's just anything could happen at any point it wasn't solid.

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So like, it's hard to give a 10.

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess I, you know, you've kind of made me sort of lean more towards a nine at this

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: point, but I mean, you feel like if she does win, I do feel like, but you have to do an

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: after rating being, I feel like that gameplay could like as a whole could be considered

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: a 10 gameplay because, you know, even though she did make some mistakes, she dominated the

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: season and she won, like, you know what I mean?

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that mistake didn't matter because she ended up winning.

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Slash, I still think that, you know, it's been very impressive.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: What she said, but I still think it's like a 90% kind of game.

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know if it's like a hundred percent that I would want to be giving her

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: if I were to give her a 10.

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So for me, like, I feel that a nine is, is where, where I would want to put Chelsea, which

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_01]: would take into consideration how well she's been doing up until now for putting herself

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: in such a good position where it seems as though likely both people are going to be taking

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: her.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously we're hearing rumblings that Cam is going to be doing something differently,

[01:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: but he could just be saying that we don't know for sure.

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think it's been pretty impressive how she's been able to really shape who she

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: wants to be in the end with.

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Most of her decisions are heard and, and, and she's able to convince a lot of people to

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: be able to do what she's wanted to do and for her best interest in the game.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So I do think that's impressive, but I do think she's made some mistakes.

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So I can't say this is a 10, this week is a 10.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's perfect.

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't do that, but I'm going to give her a little bit of gusto here with a nine thinking

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: that, you know, she is very, very likely to sit in the final two chairs and very likely

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: to win the game, but I don't think it was a perfect round.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And for what it's worth as well, I feel like there, there can be a bit of a disconnect

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes with the stock watch ratings, especially toward the end of the season where like, you

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_03]: know, I think toward the end of the season, a lot of people start clocking out of big

[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_03]: brother.

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're not paying as close of attention.

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: They're just like, especially a season like this where it's like, oh, well, Chelsea's

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: probably winning.

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're, they're already jumping to where does Chelsea fall in the legacy?

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Where, like, where does she fall in the rate and the rankings?

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and like for people like us, certainly like me, I still in the day to day of things.

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still talking about like, like, like, you know, other people are talking about Chelsea.

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like she is now like number six on the winner, like wherever they think she is.

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm here talking like, she's still just a player on the season.

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, like, Ooh, that might not have been the best move.

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but Oh, this is good.

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, uh, and so I think it can come across like, Oh, well you're, how dare you?

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_03]: How dare you not praise the ground that she walks on considering she's our top six, top

[01:17:24] [SPEAKER_03]: five, whatever winner.

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, uh, and it's like, listen, I agree with you.

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just, I have to be here.

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I, I have nothing to talk about if I'm not talking about the chance that she might

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: be evicted at the final three.

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It would be a disservice for me not to talk about this.

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so, you know, to me that is, it's the same thing with the stock watch ratings

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: where it's like, if you are going to take offense to the fact that, uh, you know, somebody

[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: got a four or a five or a nine or an eight, um, it's because of who they are as a player

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: overall.

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, that's not what this is for.

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_03]: This is about for me, at least, uh, like week to week we're talking specifics.

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It does not necessarily.

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_03]: When we talk about like how we view a player overall after a season ends, the stock watch

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: ratings have very little to do with how good of a player they are.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, like Enzo had great ratings through the entirety of season 22.

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Does that mean Enzo is a great player?

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so.

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you know, it just meant that he was super safe for a really long time and looked like

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_03]: for a while that he had a good chance to win.

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he didn't.

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a very good chance that after this season ends, we will find out that Cam

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_03]: did plan to take Chelsea to the final two and that Rubina did plan to take Chelsea to

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_03]: the final two and that maybe she should have gotten a 10.

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But this nine for me is a representation of where I am at right now, where what I'm seeing,

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_03]: what I'm hearing is that Cam doesn't necessarily plan to take Chelsea to the final two.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_03]: This is not saying so.

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and that doesn't mean that my, that I look at this rating as a mistake.

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_03]: If I find out the champ that Cam was willing to take or planning to take her to the final

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: two, it just means that this was a snapshot in time of where things looked at the time.

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think for me, that's a really cool and valuable thing to look at.

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, uh, yeah, I know I'm certainly, uh, you know, preaching to the choir here, but,

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_03]: uh, you know, this is, uh, this is, this is what we're doing, right?

[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we're not, we're not doing the legacy watch right now.

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not doing the end of the season.

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not doing the winner rankings right now.

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, quite frankly, leave me out of those.

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care.

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like feel free to do them.

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Chelsea is absolutely a top tier winner.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she dominated this game.

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I think anybody that tries to discredit her, uh, is out of their minds.

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that she has done extremely well.

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it doesn't mean that I'm going to stop talking about her game while the season is still

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: going.

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I absolutely objective about it.

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Mm hmm.

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I think like, but if you want to give her a 10, Melissa, you can.

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I agree.

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I did just want to get it out there because I do feel like it's like, I want to make sure

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: people understand that.

[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I really respect her game.

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And I really feel like, cause I do feel like we've been getting a lot of comments about

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: like, they're unwilling to recognize that Chelsea's playing such a great game.

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, no, it's not that it's like, it's literally that like, we've just been looking

[01:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: at like week to week to week.

[01:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we've been rating her as the highest rating every single week.

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't think we're not, I don't think we're discrediting her, her, you know, positioning

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: or her, her gameplay or anything like that.

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think like, if she does win, I absolutely think she's a top tier winner.

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's done such a good job.

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just wanted to get out there and get ahead of it and just explain that like, I've

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: been impressed with her.

[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've been impressed with her all season.

[01:20:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And, and that's the thing too.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and most of the people that would, that would ever say something like that are

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_03]: obviously not like listeners of the podcast.

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But like the obvious rebuttal to that amongst many things is that Chelsea has been the highest

[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_03]: or tied for the highest rating in the stock watch for every week of this season, except

[01:21:10] [SPEAKER_03]: for only two of them.

[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, it's, she has certainly been represented well on the stock watch.

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_03]: If that is what you were looking for.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's exactly it.

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to give her a nine, but I do want to make it clear that I do think of her

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_00]: as a top tier player.

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah.

[01:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Top tier player.

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she's excellent.

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and also like we, I know that if she goes on to another season, I think that she

[01:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: still will do well.

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that also shows that she's a good, actually a good player.

[01:21:43] Mm-hmm.

[01:21:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, well the audience after all that gave Chelsea an eight.

[01:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: After all of that, it's like, we're all like, is it a nine or a 10?

[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, yeah, just an eight.

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it not good enough for me?

[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Like what kind of eight is it?

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't a particularly high eight.

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't super close to a nine.

[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it was a pretty solid eight.

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Pretty solidly eight.

[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you guys have a problem with the ratings, you have a problem with yourselves.

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, it's, it's called reality television for a reason.

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe if you have a problem with reality television, maybe you have a problem with, as the name

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_03]: suggests, reality.

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Dr. Will.

[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right.

[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that, listen, that's what we've got.

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what we've got for, uh, for this week and for the season, the final week of the stock

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_03]: watch.

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course there will be one more round where you can buy and sell shares of a player.

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and what will happen with that is that the winner of the season will get the results

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: of 10 in the stock watch.

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, if you are looking for that 10, uh, they will get the automatic 10 rating.

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So whatever that does to their price, you will receive the benefit of that.

[01:23:03] [SPEAKER_03]: If you are holding shares of that player, the second place person, person who comes in

[01:23:08] [SPEAKER_03]: second place will receive the equivalent rating of a one, uh, a one in the stock watch.

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so you will get, uh, the results of that, uh, third place and fourth place.

[01:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Zero.

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You lose everything that isn't in any, any shares you hold in that person is a zero.

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: You lose all of that money.

[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That is how the final round works.

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So basically you put your money in the best in the, in the winner, uh, or, or you bust is

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_03]: basically how it works.

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, uh, unless it's like Rubina that somehow pulls out the win, uh, or sorry, Rubina gets

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: like a second place, uh, two down to a one, maybe not that bad, but you're certainly not

[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_03]: making as much money as whoever put their money into the winner.

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, uh, that's how it's going to work.

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But, uh, in the meantime, that's it.

[01:24:04] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the season for the round table.

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so such a sad day.

[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I look forward to the round tables.

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's a nice way to get together.

[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And I like talking about the game in this way.

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's bittersweet.

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's been a great season, but I'm sad that it's over actually for a year or like

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: nine months.

[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, for quite a while.

[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we'll see if there's any reindeer games on the way.

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, we'll see if, uh, there's any, you know, anything else going on, obviously no more big

[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_03]: brother Canada.

[01:24:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, so that's, you know, that is what it is.

[01:24:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But, uh, I heard big brother Australia will have live feeds and it will be a proper game.

[01:24:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe, maybe they're going to take.

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_03]: The mantle.

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not this format though.

[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Usually.

[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_03]: The format has been, I, listen, I tried, I tried big brother Australia.

[01:24:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the first time they said they were going to have the North American format.

[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, was it one of the Tim's seasons or no, no, it was, uh, it was the first season

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: back.

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and they still had the audience pick the winner.

[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that's still going to be the case, but live feeds is huge.

[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I will say.

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so we'll see.

[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely.

[01:25:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right.

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Any final thoughts then on the season?

[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Just can't believe the season's over.

[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Can't believe it's coming to an end.

[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to crown the winner.

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, yeah, it's been, it's been a wild ride.

[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, honestly, this has been a really great season.

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: There's been a lot, a lot to love about it.

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, like I'll say I personally have not felt as invested mainly because of the live feed

[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: issue.

[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just feel like I, I can't really keep up as much as I would like to, because my

[01:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: favorite thing is to wake up in the morning and then start from last night and watch the

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: feeds and fast forward certain parts and, you know, watch everything.

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I can't do that.

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of hit or miss for me as like, okay, if I log on now, do I get anything?

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's really, uh, kind of sucky, uh, if I'm being honest.

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and it's unfortunate because the season has been such a good season, um, as a whole

[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and such a great cast.

[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, yeah, I, I'm very excited to see, um, who the winner is.

[01:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm sure there will be plenty more thoughts as we wrap up our coverage of big

[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_03]: brother 26 over the next few days.

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But, uh, in the meantime, thank you all so much for joining us all season long on the

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_03]: stock watch round table podcast.

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you to everyone that has filled out the survey.

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, thank you to, uh, everyone that, uh, has been, uh, chill.

[01:26:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, thank you to everyone except for you people that aren't chill.

[01:26:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, because, uh, you know, of all the things that Angela might say to you, um, but, uh,

[01:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a proposal or anything with Rubina and Tucker on the finale or anything,

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: anything going on there.

[01:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it'll be a proposal, but I think, uh, you know, I'm rooting for those kids,

[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_03]: you know?

[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I do too.

[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Those little kids.

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, uh, thank you all so much for joining us at the round table.

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Always a very fun time.

[01:27:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, of course, I'll be back tomorrow with an update.

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we'll have some, uh, episode recaps Thursday, Friday, and of course Sunday.

[01:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, uh, you know, from there, the season will be over.

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, check it all out.

[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Check out the other coverage we have going on the circle.

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We just dropped an interview with, uh, very fun guests on the circle, uh, coverage.

[01:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I just talked to the jet lag guys about the latest season of jet lag tag three.

[01:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, they played tag across Europe, filmed it.

[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Very fun stuff.

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Check out our interview with them.

[01:27:52] [SPEAKER_03]: They're the ones that we talked to at the beginning of the season.

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_03]: We got them to check out big brother.

[01:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It has ruined their social media feeds ever since.

[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So we got to check in about that.

[01:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and of course, check out the, uh, we know scripted TV feed where I have a podcast

[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: called the tastemakers with grace leader.

[01:28:08] [SPEAKER_03]: We talk about TV film and the things that are happening.

[01:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: The latest that has been dropped this month.

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about horror stuff as well as the right, all the regular stuff.

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard it called the most underrated podcast on the RHAP network, uh, which is a very nice

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_03]: thing to say until you realize it's because not enough people are actually listening to

[01:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: it.

[01:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So go check it out.

[01:28:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It's worth listening to the people like it when they do.

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's just a little hard to find, but you can get there.

[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: We know scripted TV.

[01:28:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right.

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and of course you can always find me on Twitch, but, uh, Chantel, where can we find

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: you?

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: On Twitter at Shan underscore, underscore, underscore, underscore friend, three underscores and

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: at Chan friend friend on Instagram.

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And ours, you go to my YouTube channel, reality realness with three S's where I've actually

[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: been doing some traders Canada coverage and I've been doing exit interviews as well.

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So definitely check that out.

[01:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been really fun talking to these players that have been eliminated.

[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's been a good time.

[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So come and hang out.

[01:29:03] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:29:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course you can find Melissa at it's Melissa.

[01:29:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Three ACE.

[01:29:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Three of those ACEs.

[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, thank you all so much for joining us all season long and we will see all of you next

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: season.

[01:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, next year.