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[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Hello everyone and welcome to the Big Brother 26 Roundtable Podcast.
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm your host, Hernán. I'm Sean. We are here.
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Talk about everything from the feeds this week.
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_08]: And to rate the players one to ten based on how well we think they are doing in the game with me.
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_08]: To talk through all of it this week.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Sean Talha, head in.
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm doing very well. I'm happy this my first spot with Melissa.
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_06]: The season.
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm very happy to be here.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to hear everybody's thoughts.
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I find this season really difficult to rate and rank their gameplay.
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_06]: It was entertaining but not necessarily good for their game.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm interested to see what we kind of end up on and write ratings with these players.
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Happy to be here.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm interested in one.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, of course, Melissa is Melissa.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing great.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very excited to rate the players because this was not at all what I thought this week was going to
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: shape up to be so.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like literally thinking about last week.
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I really thought Tucker was still going to be in the house.
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So obviously that didn't happen.
[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And then with Quinn as the HOH, like I didn't expect these nominations at all.
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just totally, I feel like I have no clue what each of these players are going to do.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: At any point in time, I didn't think Leo was going to use the Vita, you know, on Angela.
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I just feel like everything.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: If you would ask me last week what was going to happen this week, there is no way I would have said
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: any of this at all.
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, very excited to talk about it.
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_08]: And well, again, I mean, the week just the season is not really not really led up at this point.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, last time we talked, Tucker was still in the game.
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_08]: The audience and a mom both gave him fours.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Fours on a week where he was evicted because he volunteered for the block.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Fours.
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I think all of us were like, he's actually not going to go home.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that was probably wrong.
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't think there was a chance that he was going home.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I understood the four, but you know, it definitely maybe should have been like a tick because
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_06]: not donating yourself to go in the blocks.
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Never a good idea.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Ponds go home, never be upon.
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_06]: You can't win them all and you didn't know.
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Hopefully this is the lesson for people to be like, well, sit up on the block.
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Because both saidric and him being so fine would be on the block.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Didn't do it and they went home.
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Uh-huh.
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, of course you couldn't write the players this week.
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_08]: You still have time.
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_08]: You still have 10 minutes if you want to get this survey answers in.
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_08]: You can find it over on Twitter or wherever it has been reposted.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_08]: But yes, Tucker was still in the game until he wasn't.
[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_08]: And that was primarily because he lost the AI arena competition and Chelsea rounded up the votes.
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_08]: To make sure he went home just like that.
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Tucker was gone and the entire game changed.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Only for Quinn to win the HOH.
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_08]: This is a great spot for Quinn to win the HOH.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_08]: It was open field for him to create whatever structure he wanted.
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Take out basically whoever he wanted.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_08]: And boy, he made a bit of a message.
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh-huh.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I just, okay, like can anyone explain why Joseph is a player?
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: That's really good.
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: That's really good.
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: This really disconnect for me is happening.
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't get any explanation of like why though.
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's other people in the house to like, but why Joseph?
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Unless Quinn this whole time was not actually planning on this final two with Joseph or whatever.
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: This like a little alliance thing they had going on.
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Unless he was planning the whole time like, yeah, that's not real.
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just so confused.
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, so here's what happened.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, Quinn.
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_08]: As the HOH, very much felt I think emotionally tied and strategically tied to the people who voted Tucker out.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, and that meant himself, Leah, Chelsea, Ham, and MJ.
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, those were the people he really wanted to keep safe.
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, they all flipped to get rid of Tucker together.
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that he, he was, he felt very constricted with Tucker's presence in the game.
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_08]: And the fact that all of his friends and allies between Joseph, chemo, decor, all of these people.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_08]: They were all picking Tucker over him.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_08]: They were all prioritizing Tucker.
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_08]: They were all, uh, enabling Tucker.
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_08]: And then wouldn't you know it?
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_08]: All the people that Quinn turned on in the past came together to help take Tucker out.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think he felt a lot of gratitude there.
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_08]: He really wanted to create some kind of alliance with those people.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, and he did, did want to bring in players like Joseph and T. Core, uh, while leaving out people like Angela Leah and chemo.
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_08]: There's, sorry, Angela, Rubina and chemo.
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, and his idea was to put those three on the block.
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Angela, Rubina, chemo, Rubina because he felt like she'd never forgive him for portraying him portraying her twice now.
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Chemo because he felt the most, I think, hurt by chemo and chemo had done the least amount of work to damage control.
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_08]: And Angela, because they've had a beef for a while now.
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, so that was like Quinn's ideal scenario. Just leave the three of them up on the block.
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Ideally take out Angela before the jury and everything's hunky dory, right?
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_08]: That's, that's how Quinn sees it. Now throughout the week, Joseph is like, ah, Tucker's gone.
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_08]: That was my final two.
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Ah, me and him. I had, I had a final two with him. You know that guy, everybody would love that guy?
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. That was me. I was with him.
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And, but now he's gone. So, uh, you know, moving forward.
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Look, I can still beat all of you in the final two, so that's a plus, um, you know, hey, MJ, don't worry about it.
[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I wouldn't target you. I can beat you in the final two. Yeah, you're a physical threat, but like I got you beat, um, you know, uh, oh, hey Chelsea, how's it going?
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm smarter than you. That's fine. Um, I can definitely beat you too. Listen, I have the best social game in the house.
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Where is this coming from? Like, first of all, okay. I, I'm just so lost as to like, first of all where it's coming from because like,
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_02]: he obviously is does not have a good social game, and he thought he could be Tucker in the final two for sure.
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And like it's like, what is he hasn't done anything in the house? Like he really hasn't done anything. Like, he hasn't, he hasn't won anything.
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't, like, on purpose really good alliances though, like it's, but it's like it's not like he's actually done any strategic moves at all.
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's a great social game. I think it's because he hasn't been on the block that he feels like his game is amazing.
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And so it's just like he's just gathering, he's like, oh yeah, I must be so good like nobody's targeting me, nobody's, you know,
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_06]: once we have this game and so I think that it's might have been a rude awakening that, you know, everything is coming into focus now and he's realizing that he's terrible at the game.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_08]: He's not, but what you need to do Melissa is sit down and listen to one of his, let me go over the season with you while I explain how I did everything deep vibes with another player while still in the game.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Because he will explain it to you that in week one, he formed the collective.
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_08]: He influenced that week, he walked this line between Matt and Angela eventually Matt had to go and he had to just move forward with the collective.
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_08]: And then somebody brought Brooklyn in which was wild but he pushed through it.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_08]: And when he found out that he wasn't really in charge of the collectives they made a thing without him. He flipped the game around.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Then he got in with Tucker and he was manipulating Tucker because he was able to convince Tucker to keep went around because he was convincing him that when was a bad player.
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And so, so on and so.
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_08]: And so the thing is that he's been saying this all season long he's been.
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a fan of the show though like it's like the whole thing is like you don't brag about your game or like say that you're much better than everyone in the field.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like you're a real fan.
[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But, Dr. Wilson even I mean like he bragged about like stuff about but it wasn't like I don't know this just I he doesn't have the charm of Dr. Well.
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I think he really I think he really thought he could be Dr. Will and say to people's faces like yeah I'm going to beat you I'm lying to you.
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm feeling with it. But and I'm throwing comps and I'm going to win having thrown comps.
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_08]: But it you know doesn't quite work the same way.
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, couldn't he maybe have saved this for his goodbye messages and being like hey man sorry and then layout is games of people going to the jury might be able to piece together his game as opposed to like while they're still in the house and he put off by it.
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_08]: What he told Quinn was that he has gotten his head about everything and was like I just I guess I felt like I needed to be telling people ahead of time about my game.
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So that they would vote for me.
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_08]: But maybe I went a little overboard and it got a little too came off as a little too schemery.
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And you have to get to the end like that's the thing is if you sit there telling everybody I'm going to beat you I'm going to be on the best player in this game they're going to be like.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I will just not bring you along then if you think you're going to beat me like I want to go with someone who I can be.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the whole point is that you're supposed to like downplay yourself until the end and then you like reveal during your speech or whatever or like near the end like I did this on the other thing in like jerk a buy messages for example like it just doesn't.
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work.
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_08]: You're right it doesn't work and it didn't work because I'm looking at him now throughout the week again now Joseph.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_08]: He's been doing this for weeks, but he's been doing it either to the cameras or to a select few people like when or Tucker.
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_08]: But with Tucker gone he started socializing more and he started talking with people like MJ and Chelsea more and they were not.
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_08]: They did not enjoy that and so Joseph started becoming a little bit of a house pariah.
[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_08]: He got into a little incident with Angela where she was asking for his help with the video and he just didn't have a lot of patience for it and he kind of blew her off.
[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_08]: And then she was upset about it and he had to kind of go on a little bit of an apology tour and throughout all of this win with his newfound allies MJ Chelsea going in so forth they're all talking smack about Joseph and all of a sudden wins like man Joseph's kind of a liability right.
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Leah starts realizing that Joseph is a liability. She starts distancing herself now of a sudden instead of joking around with Joseph about how awful Quinn is she's joking around with Quinn about how awful Joseph is and.
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_08]: And just like that Joseph becomes kind of the default house nomination if they need upon because he's the least valuable player on the board.
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_08]: And when who didn't have a lot of time to think through his options because he didn't know that the video was going to use ends up be folding to Joseph thinking that's what the house narrative required of him.
[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And that happened because Leah won the video and decided she wanted to use it on Angela but spent days going back and forth didn't theoretically make the decision until literally the video ceremony happened when thought it would not.
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_08]: And so in a panic he puts up Joseph and is now in a position where Joseph, chemo and Rubina are on the block together.
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_08]: And while chemo right now seems to be the primary target there's plenty of opportunity for the vote upon to Joseph and Rubina is not completely out of the woods either.
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_08]: And what a disaster week if Joseph goes home on Quinn's H.O.H.
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, I feel like Quinn's H.O.H. is there always just so bad for him it's like he's better off not winning H.O.H. at this point because like he just loses allies and then makes everyone mad in the process it's just it is not good for him for Quinn.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's just not good at the game unfortunately even though he thinks that he's amazing by the way that he yells in the diary room.
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_06]: He also has a skewed perception of his game.
[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like I had the thing is that like I mean like I see where Quinn's logic is at like each step of it but it's like it's all ends up being bad like you know what I mean it's like I can see why he's doing this or that or why he thinks Leah's not going to use the video
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: or like why afterwards he's all like cool with Leah about not about using the video.
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean like obviously he's not internally cool with it but you know he kind of has to be like yeah no that's fine now I trust you still but it's just like it does feel a lot like Joseph and Quinn both are just like just hard eyes over Leah and they like are blinded by it and they can't like see what's right in front of them
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean good for Leah honestly like good for her she's doing excellent work like the fact that she can literally use the video and get Joseph put up on the block and then be like crying to him afterwards it's like okay like that's pretty good.
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very impressed at this point that she has them like wrapped around her fingers I just wish like maybe in the diary room or like you know maybe just to the camera there's something she could indicate that like that is all intentional and that she actually like is playing them and she knows what she's doing for
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: is like kind of just like it's hard for me to know if she's actually playing them like in a game sense or if she like just that's the way that dies interact with her and she's just kind of doing her normal thing with that and she's really realize more like
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: like you know what I mean like.
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that she understands what she's doing in the game I think that like.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Especially over time I think she has developed a good sense of proper floating which is that she not only with the men but also with the way like when somebody wins it your way.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, who their new best friend is her name is Leah and and so she very much will like cozy up to the person in power and start trash talking to people who are not in power.
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_08]: And she gets away with it.
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: She gets away with it because it's like and I'm not I'm just sure I'm just asking like to just see because like do we think that it's because that is how she isn't real life or is that like.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Or is it like I'm playing the game here and I'm using like my skills to further myself in the game or do you think that it's just like these people are in power.
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: In real life if they were like the cool kids I would do the exact same thing like to get what I want.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you know what I mean I guess like yeah that's the things like it's a really a difference like it's you're getting what you want and in this case it's like stay in the game so like I mean.
[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that that's I guess like that's probably what she's doing and it's just very.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very impressive but it also kind of scares me a little bit because I just feel like it's like everyone is just like falling at her feet which like is great but it's kind of it's really hard to watch at a certain point.
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't like watching the conversations with like her Joseph and Quinn just because it's like.
[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: What it once again, it's like we said this about the girls around Tucker it's like stand up men 10 of gentlemen like don't do this like this is so embarrassing for you guys.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I know because like she talks so poorly about them by the fact that you're like oh they're gonna be so mortified.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It will so sad sometimes like it's like I love it from a game perspective but then when it gets like personal I really it like makes me feel sad.
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I think I've turned around on it. I think I'm I really do it because it's like there's just they're just so pathetic and this is all in.
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_08]: It is no fault. Yeah, they shouldn't worry. I'm sorry but she listen.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I have no sympathy.
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean she's not that sophisticated in how she has some rock drown her finger you know so.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I I can agree with you that it's enjoyable of the fact that's like what this you get you're getting suckered by it's sucker by this like yeah.
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_08]: And listen, you know it's not it's not like she's doing anything bad or wrong. She's just using them in the game and like you know sure she trash talks them but like that's pretty common now is not her fault that they're like growing themselves at her feet.
[00:18:34] You know.
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And then when they find out that she's like trash talk them or whatever she's like no I didn't and they're like and like cry so them and then they're like oh no she didn't she would never do that.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Listen, if she tries to tell me what she tells the rest of the house which is that oh I would never trash talk anyone I think that's wrong to do I think I would never do.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, always.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_08]: After this interview.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_08]: But but you know I will give her the benefit of the doubt that she is just it's all part of the she has to understand it's trash people constantly.
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_08]: But listen, I I'm on it for it.
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Like it's working for her.
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_08]: You know I think that there was a lot of danger to it early on in the season when she could have been ratted out and things could have happened because of it but I think that point has kind of passed and at least when it comes to to Quinn and Joseph like they are just too far gone and she can basically to whatever she wants to them now and they will just take it.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_08]: And that's a pretty good place to be if all three of them make it to the final nine together.
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_08]: The danger is that they might not all make it together and this is where I do have some criticism of we as move this week.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I think using the video was the no brainer call.
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I do just wish that she had done more work to keep Joseph off the block.
[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I do think she could have I think of it she hasn't waited wait until the last minute and she'd done a little work like listen Quinn I'm going to do this now let's not make a stupid decision and put Joseph on the block.
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I again like when is putting her hands like I think she could have kept him off the block if T cores on the block if really anybody else is on the block then she's in a much better position.
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_08]: It's still might work out as long as Joseph stays she's fine Joseph is just it's just again it's so valuable to have two people who will follow with themselves to bring you to the end and you'll be them like.
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Like that's a pretty good spot to be in so it would be great if she could have kept Joseph off block and then at the risk the the chance to believe it.
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah she probably just said like thought there was no way that he would go on the block like I feel like I didn't think she said she didn't she said she's oh I had no idea but she was told but she said she doesn't remember this she was.
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And I believe her I believe anything she says she's such a truth teller.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I just like you know I love that that's like a good strategy is just like I just don't I really don't remember anything I don't remember you say people that have selective amnesia or the liar they're always liars like a little remember like yeah remember.
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_06]: You just don't want to loan up to your lies yeah like y'all are now like oh what we don't remember giving Tucker of four what.
[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_08]: We give the two.
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah that's what happened.
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_08]: All right well that's that's really what's happening so with this vote.
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_08]: We we have some some potential scenarios here of course seven votes or carry the day.
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_08]: a team core and whoever comes off the block between chemo and Rubina if one of them comes off the block.
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Meaning Joseph stays in the block that's too votes to evict Joseph.
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Um they have been talking to Chelsea who is not quite promising the world but certainly promising support to some degree.
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_08]: They kind of think they could have Chelsea's vote.
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_08]: They kind of think they could pull Angelas after the debacle between the two of them, Joseph and Angela.
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_08]: And that would get them to four.
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and perhaps with Chelsea comes Cam or MJ, there is definitely a world where they could pull the votes to keep
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Rubina and or Kimo.
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Now it's easier to keep Rubina because of the women's alliance proposal going around right now.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_08]: But not impossible to keep Kimo either, but it is much tougher because I think Chelsea is less likely
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_08]: to actually throw some weight behind that.
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Chelsea might be putting herself into a little bit of a pickle here by promising both sides
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_08]: that she's going to support them.
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_08]: She's obviously in a much better spot of Joseph and ends up winning that AI arena.
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_08]: But if say, you know, Kimo wins or Rubina wins and she's forced to choose a side with the vote,
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_08]: that can get a little sticky.
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_08]: But that's kind of where we are.
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Like it's really again, like it could go in a bunch of different ways right now.
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like trying to figure out which way do I want it to go?
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of difficult. I'm like, I like Chelsea, but I also like to like Rubina and
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Tico and Tico and Kimo.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I do like them, but they're not actually playing that hard.
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's not like back and forth.
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't even know what I want, but I think that is it that I want Joseph to go.
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that it? That's all that we think.
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: At this point, I mean throughout the season, it's been pretty hard, which I guess is like good.
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that I don't want anyone to go home and so like anyone, there's no one each week that
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yes, go home. I guess in the beginning there were a few, but now it's like,
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone's bringing something to the table. And so I do really like everyone who's left.
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I guess that's yeah. I mean, I think like I kind of don't want Joseph to go because I feel like
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_02]: now that he's been on the block. And like maybe if he gets kind of close to like,
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, maybe knowing that like he could go home potentially and like maybe it scares him into
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: recognizing that his position is not as good as he thought. And maybe that'll just completely
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: change his game. And like I would really like to see Joseph play in a way that he's not
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: overconfident or like not doing anything. Like I feel like we haven't seen it.
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: He leaves this week like we literally haven't seen him do anything. And that's kind of disappointing
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: because I kept saying watch the space watch the space. Now we've watched it and if he goes home,
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: like that's not very satisfying. That's not that nice. That's not like it.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Correct. Yeah. But it's not very voice that they're correct people if I'm being honest. So,
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, I mean to me, where we are watching the space and he is, you know, doing stuff,
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_08]: it's just not good stuff. So that's a very Leo way of explaining that you were actually right.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've been so so vis-a-vis I'm correct. But is this a little bit satisfying? The fact that
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_06]: he like thought he was in such a good position is gloting about how amazing he is at this game.
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And like that he gets put up on the block by his closest ally because his girl crush
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_06]: like used the video and then he goes home. Like, but also is a pretty satisfying ending for a week.
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Also, I feel like for the longest time, he would be telling people like, oh, I'm in like a really good spot
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: of felt like a great social game and people would be like, oh yeah, yeah, okay, cool. But now
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like people are talking about it and they're like, this guy sucks. So you just have a piece of
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: thing about all what is he talking about? Like, none of this is accurate. Like, he thinks he's
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_02]: going to win a military replay. Like, people are talking about it now and like actually giving
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_02]: a perspective when it was like, it was just so hard to watch him like tell somebody like,
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing the best. I'm definitely going to be up there and like AFP and like they're just like, yeah,
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, for sure. It's like, no, no, I don't think so. Like, sorry, not I'm not seeing that. So
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, he definitely not the voice of the people in that house. No, no, not really. I just don't
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: even know what show he's watching. I mean, like, is he even called to the DR enough to like be considered
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_02]: one of like the most entertaining players or anything. Like, I feel like it's like at least
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_02]: cam recognized that he was never being called to the DR and he was like, yes, I'm like not on the show,
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: but Joseph thinks, you know, your Margarce fair player. I don't know. He also thought he could be
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Tucker in the final. So like, so who knows? I did ask the audience, who do you want to be evicted this week?
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_08]: 50% said Joseph. 38% said chemo, only 13% said Rubina. I think I agree with that personally.
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, um, yeah, I feel like we know kind of like, I, I think I don't want Joseph to go,
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like I said before, I just think that that gives like a more potential there. Like, I feel like
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_02]: he doesn't really have anyone. And I would hope that after all this, he decides like he probably
[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: can't really trust twin or can't really maybe can't trust Leah. You know, maybe there's a riff
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_02]: there and he kind of has to like forge his own path. Uh, but I think with chemo, I think we kind of
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: already know what he's going to do, which is like work with T-Core, you know, and like they've kind
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: of got their thing and we'll just see that happen a little more. And you know, it does make for some
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: retaining like flips and blindsides and stuff. So maybe that is a good thing, but we've kind of
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: already seen it play out. Um, Rubina, like I don't really know what she, she does moving forward. I mean,
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: now this would be the first time after this week that she's, you know, with there without Tucker
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and potentially not in a danger spot. So maybe we can see like where she goes from here. So I
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: don't know. I feel like it could be interesting either way. I don't know. I can't decide.
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I am seeing right now Chelsea is talking to MJ and she is saying it. If chemo wins the
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_08]: A. I arena, Chelsea wants to send Joseph out over Rubina. Yep. I can see it. I can very easily see it.
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_06]: But then maybe this is like the first time that Joseph is going to win the A. I read that's first
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_06]: up like actually trying to win it and maybe his ego getting flated again. And nothing will have
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: changed. People have not have learned anything. Yeah, I'm about to make me fumb out. If you just like,
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, no, at the second I start trying in a competition. I win it. I'm clearly the best.
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_08]: How that this is not locked in by any means. Quinn obviously will have a lot to say about that.
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Liam might have something to say about that. Can't even might have something to say about that. So
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I wouldn't lock that in. But if that's where Chelsea is leaning,
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I wouldn't completely doubt it. I wouldn't have chosen the prize.
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm surprised because it's like Joseph is alone at this point. He did have Quinn and Leah
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_02]: supposedly are yet Tucker. But at this point in the game, he's been put on the block by Quinn.
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Leah was the one who used the veto. If I'm in the house with him, I do the kid. This is a
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: lone wolf person. He doesn't have anyone versus Rubina, chemo, and Tico are like there a trio.
[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: They are working together. Don't you want to break that up a little bit?
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, is Joseph alone? Because he kind of has Quinn. He kind of has Leah, right?
[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like if I'm in the house, I'm thinking that he's alone because they just put him on the block.
[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like I wouldn't think like, can't go back and go back. No, I think he absolutely would work with them.
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think from Chelsea's perspective, wouldn't she be like, see if he can scoop him up?
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like versus like these three are clearly working together. They're definitely together.
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Versus like this guy just got put up on the block by his allies. Maybe we can
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_02]: swing him another direction. I don't know.
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_08]: There's value to a known trio, especially if they haven't proven themselves to be like amazing
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_08]: at cons. Especially if you have a very good relationship with them. And I think that outside
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_08]: of that trio, Chelsea has the best relationship with three of them. And so she can really wield
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_08]: them as a weapon while using them as a shield. And I do think there's a lot of value to that.
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that this is an interesting call, especially considering that Joseph has been pretty
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_08]: anti-shellcy for most of the season. He said multiple times that he would not vote for her in the end.
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_08]: He doesn't think she's played a good game and so taking him out right before jury. It's not a bad
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_08]: to do it. Perfect. So, you know, I think there is a lot of argument to make
[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_08]: there for Chelsea to make that move. Now again, there is some downside like
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_08]: does she burn some other social capital by making this move like with Leah and Quinn?
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, they put him on the block that they put him in that position. So you need to be that mad.
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Right? Yeah, that's what they want to go home to put him up on the block. Right? Yeah.
[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_08]: So, we'll see. I did ask the audience also to rank the players and their favorite to the least
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_08]: favorite. You guys have a guess who is the favorite? I think Chelsea's the favorite.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I have Chelsea at the top too. She's really doing good stuff. You know, I mean,
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_06]: the fact that she got that flip last week and got tech grade game, I think that she's still kind of
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_06]: seems like people are kind of going to her for strategy and how things are going to play out in the
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_02]: game. So, yeah, I think that she is very clear that she's doing all this intentionally and knows
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_02]: what she's doing versus like just the situation where she has happened to be in a good
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_02]: spot each week or whatever. Like, this is she knows what she's doing and she's like, like you said,
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: she's up there manipulating things and it's excellent. Well, it has been T-core at the top
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_08]: since week two every single week until this week. Oh, where Chelsea has indeed taken the top spot.
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Bring it check mark beside my number one position here.
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, who's here? I think, yeah, like I bet because T-core has been so high up like I bet she didn't
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: all that much, but I kind of think like Cam is up there now. I think he's moved up a lot this week.
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. Locking a gas Melissa. All right, I'll do Cam just for fun.
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_08]: John Tal is correct. T-core. Woo! Another tick, another tick.
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_08]: And she's looking for three Susan third place. Yeah.
[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that people like the fact that Leah might have made this move with Angela and then
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_06]: like they don't particularly like Joseph's or the fact that Joseph's on the block, they might give
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_06]: some props to Leah for doing something interesting. So I have Leah in my third spot.
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll play Cam.
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Three.
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Leah in third place.
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_08]: All right, one more who's at the bottom?
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. Joseph. That's what I got. Yeah, I would I think probably Joseph.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Joseph is correct. Yeah. That's the bottom.
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_08]: All right, John Tal, the mirror hole list will stay away from here.
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my whole list. I don't know. That's pressure. Okay, I'm Chelsea T-core.
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah. Now, I was thinking that MJ might have creeped up here. Oh, no, that's a no.
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_08]: That's enough. All right. All right.
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, this Cam is like Cam because what Melissa was saying, my head can't be so little at
[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Laura. Let me tell you, uh, this is the season of the women because it is Chelsea T-core
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah Rubina. Oh, she's I switched that position for her.
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Rubina now in fourth place. Angela in fifth place.
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Then it's Cam then MJ, okay. Then MJ and then bottom three Quinn chemo Joseph.
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I had chemo above Quinn. Oh, chemo really falling. Mm-hmm. So Chelsea went up from second into first.
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_06]: T-core went from first to second. Okay, so Rubina's still like though. Okay, that's good.
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Quinn went from third to eighth. Oh, not good. Tucker is gone.
[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_08]: chemo went from fifth to nine. Oh, Angela went from six to fifth. Joseph fell from seventh down to
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_08]: 10. Rubina went from eight all the way up to fourth. Ham went from nine all the way up to six.
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, and then MJ was last last. And Leah was second to last. Leah was 10. She jumps up to third
[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and MJ who was 11th place last week jumps up to seventh.
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like my Twitter feed has like totally skewed because I'm seeing cam in lights everywhere.
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's partially my fault for re-tweeting the shout out on my dogs at the crib.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Cooperation, super compilation. And so now it's like, oh, this girl loves cam. So now my feed is just like
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: cam, cam, cam, cam. Um, so yeah, I think that's where a cam is coming from.
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_08]: This has to be this has to be one of the most flippy floppy favorite lists. Yeah.
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Ever. I mean, in week seven, somebody going from 10 place to third in one week in week seven,
[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_08]: that's such a wild and extreme jump. It's it's very interesting to see how often things are
[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_08]: shifting here. Um, as the audience to rate the episodes this week last week, they were a six point
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_08]: eight this week, a six point four slightly lower. I mean, the egg comp.
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Now in comparison last season, week seven, this was Jared's wall HOH when after the
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Izzy flip on day 44, the week prior to the zombie week and that week had a 7.4 episode rate.
[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_08]: I would imagine that included the eviction episode that Izzy went home in. So,
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_08]: definitely had this season beat there. As the audience to rate the feeds this week last week,
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_08]: they were a 7.1 this week, six point two. It had a drop. It's still holding well above average.
[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_08]: In comparison to last season, they were saying 6.8 for the feeds during that Jared HOH.
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Finally, rate the season as a whole so far last week, a 7.5 this week, a 7.5.
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Holding strong compared to last season, 7.7 at this point.
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_08]: It's this and BB26 is closing the gap on BB25. But BB25 is going to go like this is about to
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_06]: be 26 can hold strong if it's just a steady. If it's just a zombie week, I think that any
[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_06]: any season would be better than how the season last season would go. It's starting to
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_08]: so strong. We're considering though, like we're thinking about the fact that despite how much
[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_08]: we may have been liking this season so far, we were still higher on last season who this point.
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_02]: We were really into it. Yeah, I feel like this has been consistently like
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_02]: actually their last season had really high highs and then really low lows. So if this one just
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_02]: stays consistent, I feel like it will end up having a better legacy quote unquote than last
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: season because you're like you're sitting there like the whole time I was having fun versus
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_02]: like I had a great time in the beginning and then not a horrible time at the end. But we'll see.
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's the last season just getting to watch Surrey strategize was just entertainment in
[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_06]: its own and so I think that's why why we're just like, ah, so good. And we loved Izzy and
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_06]: the whole dynamic. Like it was really fun watching those feeds in the first few weeks.
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_06]: This season, I guess the difference for me is that it's not a strategic as I like and so
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_06]: entertained, I'm enjoying it. I like the characters but I'm not getting that strategy element really
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_06]: you know satisfied so it's probably gonna stay at this level for me but I don't think it will ever
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_06]: go up anymore. Let's tell see kind of takes the reins and like really starts being masterful which is
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_08]: possible. Well I also asked the audience to rate wins HOA train. Okay, isn't in Vum 3?
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_08]: It is above 3. Wow. Last week T-Core's HOA train of 5.5. I'll give you this one last season,
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Jared's HOA train a 2.7. So it's better than Jared's. He did end up going home in that double
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_08]: eviction so pretty pretty good rating. Go in H.O.H.R. A 3.3. Who just above that?
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. It would be rounded down to a 3 so
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not good. So bad. I feel like it's like he had his first HOA train. It was like
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone was like that was so horrible and we all were like yeah but like you know circumstances,
[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: it was just a crazy week whatever and now it's like okay he's had a second one and it's still
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: so bad. You can't blame it on like the circumstances are like the you know the twist or whatever
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: he just had he has bad HOA trains. It's better for him to just not be HOH. I mean putting up
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Joseph as well. You can find a reason to put up anybody else. Literally. What if anybody else
[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: at a... Especially if his thought is like oh it's a he's being upon. It's like well yeah I
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: have someone else to be upon because Joseph will literally go home like he especially if it's like
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_02]: over this the consensus house nominee because they all hate him. Yeah that means he's going to
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: go home is that what you want? Like I don't know. It's like the purpose of that I'm also going to
[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_05]: put yourself in a better position. Yeah, not do whatever the else wants. Do what you want to get
[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_06]: what you want done. It's so it's like yeah and it's best potentially if it aligns with what the house
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_06]: wants. Like who you want out and the lives with what the house wants is great but the fact that
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_06]: he's like doing the house is dirty work potentially is pretty silly on his HOH. Okay so
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_08]: another update from the feeds right now kind of interesting MJ actually pushing back against Chelsea
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_08]: or the Joseph over Rubina vote she's saying she would prefer to vote out Rubina and I'm obviously
[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_08]: not watching but for when I'm seeing it seems like she's actually pushing back kind of hard like
[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_08]: not like not actually I really feel like it should be Rubina. I think they tell us that
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Tucker liked her and not not MJ. Get out of here like go be with Tucker. I'm not yeah I'm MJ has been
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_08]: as Daniel points out on the chat she has been pretty high on breaking up the trio. I also think
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_08]: MJ is probably a little more wary about breaking the relationship with Quinn so easily. So
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_08]: she's been skeptical you know she wants to use the women's alliance proposal but she and Leah
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_08]: have both been skeptical of the timing of it like oh Rubina's down for it now that she has no
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Tucker here but you know interesting interesting stuff. That's I mean I could see like I
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_06]: understand her wanting to break up that trio the trio is strong there are everybody many other people
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_06]: in a better position or friendship wise with the trio than MJ is so I can see her being like
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_06]: doesn't really advantage me that much to keep Rubina in here so I get it but I also think there's
[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_06]: a little hint of jealousy over the Tucker's itch. We'll see we'll see what Chelsea can do here it seems
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_08]: like there's a bit of a back and forth this may be a test of Chelsea's persuasion ability which
[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_08]: honestly we haven't seen you know like Chelsea has been very good socially he said herself up
[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_08]: well strategically I think that she did well gathering the votes. We haven't really seen her
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_08]: tested in terms of like persuading people to do what she wants quite yet so it'll be interesting
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_08]: to see if she's able to push this through with some resistance so yeah that's the interesting.
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Definitely I feel like MJ wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of the vote so she might fall in line
[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_08]: all right so yeah I mean right now looks like MJ is kind of winning the argument but we'll see
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_08]: okay I asked the audience to rate the AI arena twist I've been doing that for a while now
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_08]: week after week and I think it started out at the very week one 4.7
[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_08]: and then quickly started raising up to the 6s 6.2 6.0 6.5.8 has been back and forth
[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_08]: hit a new high though this week 6.4 up from the 6.3 last week so really like honing in on that like
[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_08]: 6.3 4 range which is very good for a twist yeah I think as far as twist go it does make the
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: eviction episode exciting when most of the time we kind of already know who's gonna go and I mean
[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_02]: it would still be exciting if there's like a blind sight or something crazy but it does kind of make
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: it so that you really don't know who's gonna end up on the block on that on eviction night and it just
[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of gives a bit of excitement and I also like that it it gives people a chance like one last
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_02]: opportunity to save themselves so if there's gonna be a twist like I like that sort of thing
[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_02]: it's it's a double edge sword because it's like it kind of eliminates back doors but at the same time
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I've kind of been okay with that but I don't know if I would be okay with that permanently but just
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_02]: like it's made for some interesting episodes for sure yeah I'm at the point where it's like
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_06]: it's not in the rhythm of the show for me and so I like I'm kind of fighting back against it like
[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I still like having the eviction and then they had a house soul at the end of the up like I still
[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_06]: want that and I know I think it's gone for good I do think that that's over but I just I don't know if
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_06]: I can buy into the AI like the arena twist yet like it has been interesting these episodes but
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I just I don't know if I like it more than before.
[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_08]: All right well I also asked the audience and this is very interesting I asked the audience to
[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_08]: rate the AI instigator twist now when it was announced before we saw it they gave it a 3.8
[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_08]: then last week in the middle of it they gave it a 4.7 if that was better than expected
[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_08]: now that it's over I asked them one more time rate the AI instigator twist they gave it a 3.5
[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: further down than when they initially rated it and I think this is such a perfect representation
[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_08]: of how fan vote twists often play out you hear about it you go oh then it happens and your favorite
[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_08]: player gets an advantage or a more screen time and you're like oh maybe this isn't so bad
[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_08]: then it backfires your favorite player gets screwed over because of it and you go that what a
[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: terrible twist that was awful I feel like it could have been I think like I like the concept of it
[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: but I don't think it was I think like I think Tucker got scared after the Rubyna
[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: like thing and then didn't really want to go for it with the others and was kind of just like oh
[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: it was going to do like silly stuff or like Angela's a working person and like they read off a
[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: grocery list or whatever like it I feel like it could have been really interesting to like
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_02]: grow like information out there to reveal stuff that they found out under the guise of someone else
[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_02]: like that could have been really interesting but I feel like he got he got a little scared
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: after Rubyna freaked out and he kind of just was like you know what I'm just going to do like silly
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: stuff I'm not going to do anything game related and it kind of just was like okay that's not
[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_08]: that's kind of boring well I asked also did Leah make the correct decision with the video
[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_08]: now I haven't been asking this question this season because everyone's been using the video on
[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_08]: themselves and like why would I ask that question except for the time that Tucker used it on Angela
[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and I really didn't feel like I needed to ask the question that we have now and really I don't
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_08]: know if I even needed to ask it this week but I felt like why not 84% of the audience said yes
[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_08]: you've made the correct decision she should have used that video yeah so pretty easy decision
[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_02]: regardless yeah I don't really feel like it hurts or that much I mean I do think it hurts or if
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: just if goes home because I do think he's kind of like he'll do her bidding and it'd be good for
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: to have him around but I think overall like she was able to use it and not really hurt her
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_02]: self in the process of like because she used it like the results of the use might be a problem
[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: but because she used it she gets the benefit of Angela you know being grateful to her although who
[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: knows what that actually means with Angela but you know and then Quinn and Joseph aren't like
[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_02]: they're they're not super pester her because it's Leah and so I think you know overall I think
[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_06]: it was right move yeah definitely the right move and I think the fact that she knows
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_06]: it like no one's gonna really get mad at me for using it on Angela except for the two people
[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_06]: that are like simply for me so let me just make my game a little bit cosciere and to deal with
[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_08]: the consequences later if you're already alright well that's the survey portion should we talk about
[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_08]: the rating should we get to the rating still okay is of course the portion of the podcast where
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_08]: we rate these players from one to ten based on how well we think they are doing in the game
[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_08]: the criteria can be whatever you want but we tend to try to look at like gameplay decisions how
[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_08]: safe are they what are their long-term prospects of winning the game that sort of thing
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_08]: so we also lately we've been doing this thing we've been trying to have a little bit more of a
[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_08]: reform discussion we don't have to like strictly take turns we can jump in have the time to
[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_08]: four bands yes give the rating whenever you want to give it and we'll start this week with Angela
[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_08]: who had a two last week and this week she is safe via the veto he has made the jury how do we
[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_02]: feel about that good week for it's not a bad week for it's not even worse i mean i feel like
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: it's one of those things where it's like she didn't like really do this to herself like it's kind
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: of like she it once again it's like the veto is used on her for some reason and uh i mean i'll give
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_08]: her some credit for it i think she she she did some campaigning and i think she did some good work
[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_02]: with we yet to to get lead afield comfortable making the move yeah sure but i just feel like it's
[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_02]: like i don't know i i i i don't really feel like this strategy is necessarily like there along
[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_02]: term i think that i can't imagine a scenario let's put it this way i can't really imagine a scenario where
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_02]: we get to the end in Angela wins like versus everybody else it's in the house at this point like
[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: feel like unless like maybe Joseph is everyone off before that point and it's her versus Joseph and
[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe they're kind of like she gives her a standard it's a big freaking brother speech and that you know
[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_02]: you're like so happy to be here like you know maybe people are like you know what she just loves
[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_02]: a show and Joseph just as speech is just you know i beat all you guys because i'm the best near
[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_02]: the worst like maybe you know that's a situation but i i just feel like i need to see more
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_02]: good strategy for Angela and i feel like this past week with the whole Tucker thing and everything
[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_02]: it was just like it was not well done and yeah i don't know i i'm not so sure i'm really honestly not
[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: sure i i think like it was a good week for her but i just like i don't know if i see long term like
[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_02]: how she fits in with the house and how she moves forward well i do think she might be dragged
[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_06]: to the end like when it's adjusting and the fact that she was twins target and she managed to get
[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_06]: what of twins true allies to take her off the block because they have something that they're kind
[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_06]: of working together um as much as it's not necessarily intentional it she got it to happen and
[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_06]: she will probably have you know this bond with lia now for the rest of the game and so
[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_06]: i'm going to get to give her some credit here for you know just being who she is
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's managed to get herself out of being affected this week i think this is one of Angela's
[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_08]: better weeks in the house i think that she did good work with her campaigning she did good work
[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_08]: get lia to use that veto on her um that said you know as as you guys mentioned and this is why
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_08]: i capped her out of the four earlier this season in week five when she was getting five as i said
[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_08]: it's got to be a four for me until she can prove that she has the ability to win the game
[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and this week there was a lot more talk about how she can't win this game that uh that she is
[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_08]: not going to be voted for if she's in the final two uh nobody nobody thinks that they will now that
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_08]: doesn't mean it's impossible uh and quite frankly maybe maybe Joseph now who knows right but
[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_08]: but Joseph may also leave this week um so i mean for me i think this is again like maximum amount
[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_08]: i can give somebody that i don't think has a very realistic shot at winning i think i'm at a four
[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_08]: range of that i think that like um you know it this is probably as high as it goes but i think
[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_08]: this was a pretty good week for and i think she did some decent work this is how high as it goes
[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_08]: the fourth thing i'm still she until she genuinely starts to like get to a place where people
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_06]: start talking about her like they could possibly vote for her now she couldn't still win the game
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_06]: like i know that right now she doesn't have the support and and the people in the house but
[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_06]: if she maybe she's gathering information being like i you know it's on the plug and people
[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_06]: are trying to get me up but i'm managing people take me off the plug because i want to see me in
[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_06]: this game they want to see me get like that she might do one of those things and at the end
[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_06]: might pull on their hurts strings and maybe turn it all around so i don't know if she has the
[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_06]: chops who can you know make a speech that's gonna be amazing to get into the win but i'm going
[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_06]: to also cap her out of four for this week but i think that she has a little bit more of a story
[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_06]: that if she's able to craft it she'll be able to share it and might be able to get some you know
[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_06]: the votes in the end so it's a hint of her before yeah i feel like i'll give her a for as well
[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_02]: um i think like she she's off the plug she's safe this week that's already much better you know
[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_02]: that's already good uh it's just yeah i think i need to see more you know in order to
[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_02]: have faith that she you know can actually like get some allies and play the game and like i feel
[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_02]: like at this point she's kind of like used up all her capital where it's like she's everyone's
[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean i wouldn't want to work with her because i think she would betray me like i would be very
[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_02]: afraid so i just don't know how she moves forward and how she gets allies so i really don't
[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_02]: know what's gonna happen but at this point yeah for all right well the audience agrees they gave her
[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_08]: or as well um let's talk about cam up next uh look at the ratings from last week and there's one
[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_08]: green one there and a sea of reds uh that's because i gave cam a six last week took a lot of heat for
[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_02]: it where's that heat now i don't know that's not a downplay i'm not i don't know color he gave it
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_08]: five you got a sea of red i think i'm looking oh i'm looking over at Angelet to see the sea of red
[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a few reds in a you know and a white there yeah yeah not not so much of a sea more of like
[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_02]: a little lake of red no i mean i feel much better about cam this week honestly like i mean it was scary
[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: last week you know i i just didn't really see a path forward for him with like everything that was going
[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_02]: on but i think that he's got Chelsea and i think he's doing really well and people you know
[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_02]: people want to work with him i think i i've been pretty impressed with cam i feel like for the
[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_02]: longest time i just felt like okay he's not actually playing he really is just doing nothing
[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_02]: he's just an easy person to just like take out because who cares um but yeah i think i think
[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_02]: the fact that he's close to Chelsea is is huge um so yeah i feel much better about him this week honestly
[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_06]: but my one little question about his gameplay is him getting closer to Mackenzie
[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's not really sitting well with Chelsea and so i'm just worried that he's not
[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_06]: recognizing that that connection might kind of mess up his positioning with Chelsea and so
[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_06]: i was starting out one number and it kind of went down a notch for him not recognizing that
[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_06]: whatever is going on between them might be ruining his game of position and standing with Chelsea
[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah i think that's i think that's fair i think that um he's in a very good spot like nobody's
[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_08]: looking at targeting cam right now which is wild because they're about to head into the final nine
[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and if this were being 25 be 204 be 203 be 202 be 21 be 20
[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_08]: be 19 stop you can win out basically from there like that's possible right so like that's a
[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_08]: very wild thing to not be looking at cam to target cam um on top of that his social game has
[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_08]: improved people really like the guy uh i think he absolutely could win a jury vote um the the
[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_08]: possible downsides are what you pointed out Sean fellas that he is not careful enough about how
[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_08]: openly he flirts sometimes um and that is not only an issue because it doesn't give him the benefit
[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_08]: of actually having a showman's and having a locked in partner and all of the downsides of people
[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_08]: wanting to target him down the line for a possible showman uh and on top of that Chelsea doesn't
[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_08]: like it and either is T-core um and so that's a little dangerous and on top of that he's not a woman
[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_08]: and the women are feeling pretty women powery right now uh and that is um you know that's not
[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_08]: not a great place to be if you're cam um and there aren't a lot of other options around if you're
[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_08]: trying to uh you know win this game can go to the end with Chelsea i think he loses to Chelsea
[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_08]: can go to the end with MJ that's closer but you know he no longer just handily beats MJ like
[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_08]: that's not like a guaranteed thing by any means uh so are we now looking at like this cam need to get
[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_08]: to the end with somebody like Joseph for Quinn well that's that's probably you an easy win um
[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_08]: if does he can get he can get there with chemo uh is that an easy win i'm not even sure um so yeah
[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_08]: some some ups and downs yeah i'm just taking with my six i think i called it last week oh
[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_02]: wow yes you know it's like i don't how it's gonna give this six but now i feel like i don't want
[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_02]: no it's not a fraction i would be like uh actually i think he's a one because Terran's wrong
[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_02]: no i mean i don't wrote sex i wrote sex yeah that's not saying i don't know
[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_02]: like last week i was not so sure but this week i mean this week i'm still not so sure but i think
[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_02]: like i see i see the potential i see it happening so um yeah i i'll give him a six this while
[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_08]: whatever six is across the board now the audience still disagrees they get me five
[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_06]: okay okay i mean it's a low sex maybe last week was a high six from use Terran but this
[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_06]: week's a low sex because he has to get knocked down a little bit for not recognizing that people don't
[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_08]: like that he's flirting with chemo check hmm all right well what about Chelsea who had sevens
[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_08]: from the panel at least but uh i think i want to give her a bite honestly i feel like i'm like
[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: i'm very impressed with her i feel like she's turned her game around at one point i was like
[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: oh she's over for her and it was like that meme of like it's over we're so back it's so over um
[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah i feel like we're we're so back baby uh i i feel like i i'm very impressed with
[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea has done i think obviously there's some little things here and there but i think
[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: overall like if you're looking at the rest of the house like i think she's far in a way the best
[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: strategist there um and i think you know she got what she wanted this past week i mean you could see
[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_02]: when she cast her boat even she just like we finally got him out uh so yeah i mean this could have
[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_02]: been a bad week for her too um with like when winning a choge but you know yeah no she was able
[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to maneuver her way around that and especially like getting all the people that quin or that she's
[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: been working with quin to be like hey i can't target them this week i'm gonna put up Joseph so like
[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_02]: she could really get what she wants this week so yeah i mean obviously right now we're i'm not like
[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_02]: we're out watching you just we're on the panel but you know she's talking to McKenzie and maybe
[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: things are gonna switch up we don't know but like at this point like it doesn't really it's not
[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: really that bad for her to have any of these people go so you're way i think she's she's okay this week
[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah seven for me i think you see me hey for me that's all i said in the beginning but i was
[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: looking at the sevens underneath because again i'm agreeing with myself i was about to write an
[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: aid and then you said i was like actually i just convinced myself uh it's a five from everything i
[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_06]: really asked if i just said i'm hitching my wagon to Chelsea with another eight i think that
[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_06]: you know i've been looking for somebody to want to be rooting for their gameplay and and interested
[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_06]: in their strategy and seeing how they're getting out of situations and she's the only person
[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_06]: that i've seen so far the season that's looking at this game strategically and putting ourselves
[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_06]: in better positions and making things happen especially because she started off the season
[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_06]: not being able to vote and being in a very dangerous position and very easily
[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_06]: good about that first week and then get some power and then i don't know i just i feel like i want
[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_06]: to follow and watch her game from a first um strategic perspective and yeah she's the most fun for me
[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_06]: to watch it for strategies so i'm giving her an aid as well and hopefully that keeps on going up
[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_06]: because i like what she's doing so far and i'm interested to see what she's doing for the long
[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_08]: right well the audience at a seven for Chelsea okay but i'll i'll agree with the aid but
[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_08]: but i will say this about the eight um i i'm not eight and upward i'm eight and downward right now
[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_08]: oh i think she may have reached the peak uh and this this might be uh back on a down
[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_08]: or not not like deeply downward by any means um but i do think she has a couple of challenges in front
[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: i think that you know putting together the talk the talk her blind side was bright i think picking up mj
[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_08]: uh over quint was great um but i'm a little bit worried about this cam mj thing uh a little
[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_08]: concern about that i'm a little concerned about the fact that that has created this perception of a
[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_08]: trio around her um that uh that could put a little bit of a target on her back and also a little
[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_08]: bit concerned about the vote this week and how she is a little bit caught in between t-core and quint
[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and if Joseph stays on the block she will need to perhaps publicly pick aside
[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_08]: in that could cause a little bit of damage uh to this positioning um and if Joseph stays
[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_08]: that puts Leah in a very good position and Leah is one of the people that is a little bit
[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_08]: anti-chalcy right now Leah having a lot of power outside of Chelsea not being a Chelsea fan
[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_08]: or at least under Chelsea's spell creates a little bit of a possible you know problem scenario
[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_08]: so i see some issues for Chelsea's future but i definitely have to reward the gameplay for the
[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_08]: week uh and that means the eight for now but i'm watching i'm careful this stock is on watch
[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_08]: all right um okay let's talk about Joseph
[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: oof is right uh he could be going home like i mean i really honestly did not expect him to be on
[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: the block at all i i'm just honestly shocked i and the fact that like he's become like the default
[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: like house target it's like that's not good i'm the fact that his ally put him on the block
[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and now he's still there and he might still be there he might not win a irina it's like
[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: i i i i i it's so bad i i mean i think like yeah i think i want to give him a two
[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: mainly because i feel like he he didn't volunteer to be on the block he didn't think that this was
[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna happen uh and and maybe like if he had any indication that this was gonna happen like he
[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: could have done something to prevent it or like talked to winners something but i feel like he didn't
[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: think that this was a possibility so i don't really blame him um for getting on the block but
[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: he has certainly not played well uh in terms of his social gamer things that he said to people
[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_02]: like all this bragging it's like for no reason and yeah it's just it's not great
[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: is it bad that i want to hear wop wop wop you should do it do it honestly
[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_06]: do yeah do it's it's a one for me uh thank you um it's just like he just played so badly
[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_06]: that his ally put him on the block and he might go home like he's getting like that's the worst
[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_06]: so you can possibly do it a week even your allies win you should feel safe and he did feel safe
[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_06]: and he wasn't and so the fact that his two closest people in the game were the ones that you know
[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_06]: worked in tandem to get him on the block and maybe going home i i can't even give him a two because
[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_08]: he's so bad it's so bad so yeah one when i i feel like i can give him the two mostly because of
[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_08]: curve i'm grading on this season where the ones are pretty much reserved for people that
[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_06]: go volunteer yeah i mean it's terrible gameplay is kind of him volunteering you know like that's
[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_08]: fair that is fair but but it's not quite like Angela saying listen if you have to put me up
[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I understand or talk or saying put me up uh so you're like put me up and then i'm like why didn't
[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_02]: they actually put me up it's like don't say it don't even try it let's don't put it out there
[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe the curve will start to to even out once once we get a little bit of away from the
[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_08]: volunteer scenarios but yeah i do think that like you know he had reason to like he had no reason
[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_08]: to believe he was actually in danger of going up this week uh and um and like that you know
[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_08]: oversight is really bad that's it i agree i listen i don't mean to be defending Joseph
[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: it's only fine like i can tell you that it's my wife like proud
[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_08]: it's fine what I will you'll say if Terran loves him what i will say what i will say is that
[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_08]: i i also don't think he is the most likely person to go home at the moment either um and so
[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_08]: he has a couple of different things going for him i think that uh that just just make him escape my
[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_08]: one my warm warm but but i listen i very understand very much of it i was that i definitely
[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_06]: thought it's the cash next week because you're just such a Joseph Stan all right well the audience
[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_08]: also gave Joseph a two all right what about chemo though who may be the most likely person to
[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_06]: leave at this point in the week uh shantown that's who i reserved my two four for this one um
[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_06]: i i like chemo but he's just not playing the game he's only talking to two other people
[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_06]: really in the in the house right now um he's not making people feel safe with them Leah thinks
[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_06]: that she's gonna put her up and so Leah right now has a lot of power and she's not scared of
[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_06]: going home because she won the video and she knows she has twin and she has um Joseph that
[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_06]: are asleep like if they're both out of the well not um quit but if Joseph had the block he's been
[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_06]: a boat which way she wants to vote and i think that you know the fact that he's not really
[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_06]: mending any relationship especially with Leah who is powerful uh is this not good he's probably
[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_06]: gonna go home i like him though but he's just not playing enough um and he's not saving himself
[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_06]: he's not even recognizing that he's in such a bad position it seems um so yeah i gave him a two but
[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_08]: i like you yeah and it's something i actually i just forgot to mention about Joseph is that uh i do
[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_08]: like what Joseph has been doing since ending for a block uh i think his campaign has been pretty
[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_08]: decent so far um and uh and i think that uh that is also part of why didn't give Joseph a one and
[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_08]: also part of why i am also giving chemo a two because i do not like he most campaign all that
[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_08]: much uh because where is it um he's uh he has still spent most of its time with Revena and T.C.
[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_08]: um he and and he has come out and said it too like his heart really isn't in it right now
[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_08]: and you know this should be a time of renewal. Tucker has gone this was his ability to kind of
[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_08]: branch out and start playing the game and not be so Tucker focused and and what we have found is that
[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_08]: chemo without Tucker seems to not be a new chemo it just it's no chemo. It just hasn't
[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: hasn't gotten any traction yet. Yeah no i agree it's like i have i like don't even know what he's
[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: doing this week and uh now is the time to do stuff i mean now is it so especially because you know if
[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_02]: he's left up on that block um you know after the A.I. Arena like he's in series danger so yeah i
[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_08]: give him a two as well. Yeah well uh the audience little bit higher they gave him three.
[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: That's insane! That is usually it's usually pretty generous with the people who are lower and then
[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: with who are hired they are not as generous like i feel like they gravitate for the middle of the
[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_08]: interesting. Um all right well what speaking of interesting let's talk about Leah. Leah
[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_06]: i guess why wish that i knew that she was using her powers for like for good like she like that
[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_06]: she was actually intentionally knows what she's doing it kind of like what you're saying in the
[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_06]: beginning well it says like i want her to know that she has these guys wrapped around her finger and
[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_06]: she's knows that she could use them in this game to however she wants i want that for her but
[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_06]: she's in a pretty good position right now. She's one of her first comp she did something
[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_06]: that a lot of people might have shy away from doing you know the Quinn wanted Angela out of
[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_06]: the game and she's like well she's better for me my game so i'm going to do what's best for my
[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_06]: game and keeper knowing that she's not gonna lose any favor from Quinn and so i think it's powerful
[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_06]: knowing where she stands with Quinn and Joseph and i think of Quinn overboard her with being
[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: a little bit above average with a six. Yeah i feel like it's like i think like having Quinn
[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and having Joseph is like really great for her but it's like Joseph might be going home this week
[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_02]: after she used the video so it's like what did that really benefit her was that really like
[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: good in the long run if Joseph goes home if Joseph doesn't go home it's like okay great she
[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: earned some favor with Angela she didn't really lose anything on the other the other end and
[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: she has that comp under her belt like that's great but like if Joseph goes home she loses someone
[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: who's like obsessed with her and he will do whatever she wants and won't be mad at her if she
[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you know does something like this so i just feel like it's like i'm i'm i know the child is sitting
[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: or saying like oh you know we got a greater high and all this stuff but like but why i don't
[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_08]: know i just really gets like i don't know well isn't i gonna put the chat in its place because the
[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_02]: audience carefully has six. Okay that makes more sense yeah i just feel like it's like i
[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: think that this is great that she won a comp that she's used it on Angela like blah blah blah but like
[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: i don't know where this i mean i do think like it's possible look it's totally possible that she
[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: ends this week Joseph still in the house Joseph and Quinn are still obsessed with her and we'll do
[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever she wants and no no harm no foul she also gained some favor with Angela and she got the
[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: comp okay great it's also possible that she loses Joseph or she keeps Joseph and both Joseph and Quinn
[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_02]: are kind of skeptical of her now because they feel like they can't fully trust her i don't know maybe
[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe it's a nasty she looks good yellow come on yeah it's like it's just i don't know i feel like
[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_02]: i mean i'm maybe a sane person would be like okay yeah i know i don't trust her anymore because of
[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: this but like yeah maybe they walk but it's it's i don't know where her position is after this so yeah
[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_02]: i want to get her six as well because like i do think like better than last week for me but
[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: like i just don't know well okay here's the thing about Leah
[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: hot um or sick nasty i don't know krival you make this look more yellow
[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: right in the minions i like you smile you treat people with kindness you're really funny
[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: you're really really funny you're really good at cooking you're now's a good still French there's a lot
[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: it's just like the word sensational this is constant i think i want to
[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_02]: i mean like to be fair it's like it is very nice but like the problem
[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_06]: i'm just wondering yellow it is just gonna be like whatever you say
[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: it doesn't reciprocated at all and it's not just the not reciprocating it's like
[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: it makes me feel sad to hear it because of the way that she talks about him behind his back
[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: i feel so bad i just feel i feel bad for Quinn honestly like i just do like i feel
[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: i feel really sad about it because it's like the i just if i don't know i think like if she didn't
[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: speak about him the way that she speaks about him i could feel like you know he's just shooting a
[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: it's cute and whatever but like the fact that she speaks about him the way she speaks about him
[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_02]: makes me feel sad it doesn't i don't know i just it makes me feel it just is like it's so hard to hear
[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_08]: here's the thing they're gonna get out of the house they're gonna be fine
[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_08]: no but y'all yeah he'll be fine but it's still hard he's gonna be like oh crap i he's gonna make
[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_08]: so how he made her look like an idiot and they'll be friends no hang out and it'll be fine
[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah i don't think look i don't think she's a bad person or whatever and i don't think he's like
[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: a bad person for like falling for it or whatever like it's just at on a personal level it is
[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: just hard to watch this happen because you don't want someone to like i don't know to be spoken about
[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: like that and then like not i don't know it just is sad he's been warned yeah he's been warned
[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_06]: and then all so I just think that she did not even reciprocating at all like she's like
[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_08]: what are you talking about like she's done she made it clear back from from from day one she made it clear
[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_08]: nothing's happening here this is a strategic relationship um you know i got kind of made it clear
[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: but she's also like it's just also like letting it she's she's not saying no she's not like
[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_08]: oh she did i mean she's said like with there when they made their final two she i i felt she was very
[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_08]: clear this is not what like this is not a flirting that you can flirt but this is not a thing
[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and i think he understands that i i know i do agree with that but i i do think that like
[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: she she likes the flirting and he he likes the flirting and that's fine at that's
[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: try that part of it does not make it wrong anyway it's the behind the back saying the stuff
[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that she says about him like if like you can't say to his face like oh the flirting's fun and
[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever okay like you know what it mean like it just not like it's not great like what i will say
[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_08]: that though is that like there's a case to be made and i'm not in liaison but there's a case to be
[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_08]: made that like when she was talking smack on quen she felt kind of betrayed by she felt like he was
[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_08]: playing her and that was just her kind of way like that was her feelings in those moments and of
[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_08]: course she's going to keep to his face pretending like she likes him uh she doesn't want like that's
[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_08]: just good game play you know and so i like i don't think that she like maliciously went into it
[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_08]: like hey i'm gonna flirt with quen and then trash him and make him look like an idiot for no
[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_08]: reason and then keep flirting with him i think that it was it was much more of a panic kind of
[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: true i i absolutely think that she is is the way she is to his face i think it's because she
[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't want to like hurt his feelings like i honestly like there's she could if she wanted to
[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: hurt his feelings she would be like get away from me like i'm not interested you know what i mean like
[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_06]: but i think like being in a game for a lot of money like i think that's also the dance that's
[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah for sure in real life she probably would have like made it very clear i'm not interested
[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: in real life like in in the game she has to hang out and so like it benefited to entertain this and
[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see a problem with that at all i do it does make me it hurts my heart to see yes
[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: her speak that way about him and then be nice to face and i get the that's what happens in
[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: big brother so i'm not like an idiot you know what i mean like i get it i'm not saying like no one can
[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: speak bad about anyone else or whatever but like it hurts me to watch this happen because i do
[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: think that quen genuinely maybe not in a romantic way because he recognizes that she she's not
[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: interested maybe but he just really like her as a person and he does really feel like they have a
[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: connection and that they've connected on a personal level and she doesn't feel that way according to
[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_02]: what she's saying so that's all i'm saying is that like i just feel bad yeah you don't want her to
[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: talk about somebody that actually really that's the thing it just it hurts because it feels very
[01:20:23] [SPEAKER_06]: once I did and whatever so that that's all but this is what happens with a crush right you get crushed
[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's so crush is like it's like it's unrequited love unfortunately it's kind of it's like
[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_06]: high school or like you know you know seven grade kind of vibe you know people just
[01:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: like stop liking me like what are you doing quenuity at like no it's like it's a crush like you can't
[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: like you can't just turn it off like it doesn't really it's a crush what do you mean you can turn off
[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_06]: you can turn off a crush what it's a good idea I did have a friend that had a crush on this guy
[01:21:02] [SPEAKER_06]: in high school and it lasted to hear and it was really really bad it were just like listen he's not
[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_06]: interested in you he's like older he's like really can't seven isn't artists whatever and she was
[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_06]: obsessed with him and it was like he's something like went through the whole school like everybody
[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_06]: knew that she was in love with this person for like a whole year and then she got over it eventually
[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_06]: but like he had to say like leave it alone like I'm we're not doing anything like it was really bad so
[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_06]: crushes can last a while I think and but you know I don't think you can turn off a crush you can't you
[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: the way you're kind of a female kind of relationship mindset so way that you turn off a crush is you need
[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to find the exact or about that person like you make yourself think that that person is gross like
[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: you just let the only way to get rid of it honestly that's the solution is you just you
[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you were like you have to fixate on something that like is not maybe not actually that gross or
[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever but like you have to be like this person the way that they like smack their lips like oh no I
[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_02]: can't that's not for me and that's what you have to do is be like that whole thing that ruined it for
[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_06]: me I don't actually keep it for anything wrong with Leo I mean that's honestly that's that's how
[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I've gotten rid of crushes like in the past like you just have to be like actually this person like
[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of reminds me of like my uncle and that's crazy like I'm sorry I can't get into it you know
[01:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: like that's what you have to do that's all that you can get rid of a crush that's it
[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: that's pretty good to get there is like this is my aunt she reminds me my
[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: like you said like you know what I mean like you have to trick yourself you have to trick yourself
[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: into not being interested like that's really the way it goes or like you know what actually
[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: like I can't I actually can't be with someone who you know XYZ who speaks like this or says this or
[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_02]: who lives in the state or whatever and you just have to force yourself to be like that's not
[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_02]: not for me for the one that can survive his sensational look I you know if I could just get five
[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: minutes with Quinn in the house I could explain this to him and I could get him I get him on a program
[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_08]: to like get rid of the crash I don't know if that's a new business the people are
[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_08]: seeing yeah a deep pressure yeah all right well here's here's my deal with Leah
[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_08]: I I think Leah did a great job this week I really do I think that she has really again developed
[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_08]: a better game sense she is more clearly willing to use the people that she has
[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_08]: under her spell then she has been before and she won a competition she used the power that she
[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_08]: gained to her benefit got basically zero blowback for it this is how you play the game
[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and this is how you win respect and people are talking about Leah with more respect now they're
[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_08]: talking about her as somebody that could win the game and that is so far from where she was in week one
[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_08]: week two week three that that's that's really really good I really like the way she's played and her
[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_08]: positioning if Joseph stays is amazing um that with Quinn Joseph Angela all on board and nobody
[01:24:20] [SPEAKER_08]: even looking at her I really like that I would give her an eight if I knew for sure that Joseph was staying
[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_08]: but I don't know for sure the Joseph is saying and like I said if I'm being nitpicky
[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_08]: you know I do think that she could have prevented this from happening but I really do think that
[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_08]: she is right up there with Chelsea all she needs to do is like right now I'm seeing this game
[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_08]: as a war between Leah and Jels and right now the battle the current battle is those Joseph
[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_08]: stay or does Joseph go if Joseph goes I think that's good for Chelsea bad for Leah if Joseph stays
[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's bad for Chelsea good for Leah and I think that puts Leah more on an even playing
[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_08]: field with Chelsea and things get really interesting from there that's kind of how I'm seeing it
[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_06]: and I'm gonna marry a seven who and also she hasn't been nominated yet which is also pretty impressive
[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_06]: consider you like I would have done it a long time ago I mean like not many Leah who cares and it
[01:25:17] [SPEAKER_08]: hasn't happened so that's also pretty impressive all right well let's talk about MJ in man
[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_08]: what what idiot gave MJ a two last week more
[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_08]: I wonder who obviously not somebody that has any you know any business talking about big
[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_08]: brother because MJ's in a great spot this weekend I don't know what you're wondering guys
[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_06]: well it's good she won the AI comp she stayed in the now she's in a great position so
[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I can understand why the two was there but she definitely has jumped up a lot
[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_06]: you know people are now strategizing with her like her her opinions about how votes are going down
[01:26:04] [SPEAKER_06]: are mattering like we're hearing that she's talking to Chelsea currently about her pushing
[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_06]: the vote in a certain direction or who what she's starting to make moves she started to play the
[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_06]: game and she's feeling comfortable and confident in that she is worried and I don't want her to
[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_06]: be talking too much about her like I don't want to be the next comp he's I don't want to be that's
[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_06]: kind of like like learn from Joseph don't talk about what you're good at or what you're not
[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_06]: good at like just like just keep that to yourself and save it for later because if people they
[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_06]: might not be thinking you really as a comp he's necessarily so I do like what she's doing more
[01:26:39] [SPEAKER_06]: but I don't I think I still have to keep her middle of the road I think I still have to give her
[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_06]: five with like on the way up because this is the most active you ever seen of her gamewise
[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_06]: and like I don't want to give her like a six and then be like okay now it was just all
[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_06]: kind of a fluke of circumstance so giving her a five just to you know slowly see her rise
[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah I mean I think that MJ her positioning I mean listen obviously last week
[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_08]: things were looking a little bit dire it was starting to look like if she didn't win that
[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_08]: A. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. She's she she she seems to have that clutch being
[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_08]: and she has one when she needed to and I you know often I don't like it when people say that
[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't like it that I just said it because that's really mean anything um I don't think so but
[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I do think that she can win competition and I think that as we get deeper into the season
[01:27:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and all of the other competes are going home I think that's very valuable and when I look at like
[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_08]: who is another person that's really good at winning competitions right now seemingly maybe Quinn
[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Quinn is one a couple now can be Cam when as a great relationship with MJ who else maybe cam
[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_08]: physical can win competitions she's really close with cam all of a sudden it's looking like
[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_08]: who's going to be winning the bulk of these competitions. I can people that are with MJ or MJ
[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_08]: herself and I like that a lot in addition to that she's been getting a lot of respect in the game.
[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_08]: People are starting to look at her as somebody who is valuable who can win in the end and
[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Stosip and so I like it I really see her and cam on similar levels at the moment and so I gave her
[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_02]: did you go the six? Yeah I mean I like MJ right now and I feel like last week was a scary week for her
[01:28:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I really thought she was going to go home but now I feel like she's in a much better spot
[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I don't know exactly where she's at and I feel like I don't really see her
[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: in the same spot as Leah at this point but I feel like she could get there so yeah I'm going to
[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_02]: give her a five as well but yeah I think that's like five on the upward trend I think.
[01:29:07] [SPEAKER_08]: All right well the audience agrees with you too. They gave MJ a five. The voice of the correct people right here
[01:29:16] [SPEAKER_08]: show. All right then let's talk about Quinn because Quinn last week had a five. He won the
[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_08]: HOH we've talked extensively now about his decision making as the HOH but man it just seems like
[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_08]: blender after blender he pissed off the trio and really I say the trio he pissed off T-Core.
[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_08]: He pissed off T-Core and she's the one of the trio he didn't nominate which is strange
[01:29:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and literally seems to be a misread there lack of a read. In addition to that he failed
[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_08]: to prevent Leah from using the veto despite Leah being one of his closest allies
[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and really basically gave her permission to do it which then opened up the door for him to choose
[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_08]: to put up Joseph instead of once again T-Core who is not a fan of his at the moment and currently
[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_08]: still even though she's warming to him a little bit targeting him at the moment and
[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_08]: if Joseph goes home that's real bad for Quinn. So why even you know give that as an option
[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_08]: it's just the decision making his position isn't the worst right now he still has run way it's just
[01:30:38] [SPEAKER_08]: it should be so much better and I think that it feels to me like every choice he made is
[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_08]: actively made it worse so you know what I'm going to agree with the audience is HOH
[01:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: rating I'm giving him a three. Yeah yeah I want to give him a three as well this is I mean we've
[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_02]: talked it to death but I mean he's this has not been a good week for him and this could have
[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: been a really good week for him and I feel like last week with Tucker leaving you know that's
[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_02]: excellent for Quinn and then it just kind of then he wins HOH and it's like okay everything can
[01:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: be reset he can start a new etc and it just kind of like all fell apart for him so yeah a three
[01:31:21] [SPEAKER_06]: and like what's so wild with his thought process of this week is the fact that he like can put up
[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_06]: T-Core's allies and then expect her to be in an alliance with him and be happy and potentially
[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_06]: could lose whatever besties in the game and she's not going to feel a type of way about the
[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_06]: person that did that so the fact that he's not really just even recognizing potential social
[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_06]: dynamics like maybe she's saying like oh no worry we're good like you did what you had to do like
[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_06]: she might be saying that but he shouldn't be able to anticipate that she might just be
[01:31:53] [SPEAKER_06]: logging that at the back of her mind being like okay I'll get him back for this you know so I
[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_06]: guess his game ability is not impressed me at all considering he loves to say how much of a
[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_06]: profound he is and how much he loves the game and I'm going to have to agree with both of you
[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_06]: with the three you know we can't go really lower he did win some power I don't know how well he's
[01:32:14] [SPEAKER_06]: using it but he's safe he's safe this week so he gets a three all right well the audience is a
[01:32:19] [SPEAKER_08]: little more lenient they gave him a four so they are yeah four all right then there's Rubyna she
[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_08]: is on the block obviously and definitely could go home um that said of the three on the block
[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I think she's played this week the best I think I mean she basically started the week as the target
[01:32:43] [SPEAKER_08]: she then shifted to not the target she shifted to the backup target to Angela Angela came
[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_08]: off the block and she shifted up again to the backup target chemo and then almost shifted the
[01:32:55] [SPEAKER_08]: target back up again to Joseph over her that she had Chelsea convinced now it seems like Chelsea's
[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_08]: running to a little bit of a wall but she still has the possibility of turning that over and I
[01:33:05] [SPEAKER_08]: think that that campaigning has been pretty good pretty effective I've liked what Rubyna's been doing
[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_08]: you know that said she is in a position where she might go home she has a very real chance
[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going home um and and that's like if chemo in quite frankly I think chemo
[01:33:25] [SPEAKER_08]: barely but has the best track record he's already won an AI arena before if chemo wins that AI
[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_08]: arena it is looking right now like Rubyna goes home and that's that's rough that's a rough place to be
[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think I can go as high as a four but I think it's three is fair for somebody that has a very
[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_06]: real chance of going home so that's I think we're all fall you know I feel like I feel bad because
[01:33:51] [SPEAKER_06]: like I was really interested in her game in the beginning and how you know I was like oh I love
[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_06]: her personality and I get and then the showman's thing I was like I like them together but like
[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like it's just so bad for your game and then like obviously we see Tucker go home now she's
[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_06]: up on the block but I am happy that she hasn't just like thrown in the towel and she wants to say
[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_06]: she wants to play the game she's talking to people and chemo is not talking to anybody she's talking
[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_06]: to people which I like in respect she did almost win like she was just like for arms were a
[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_06]: little bit longer she might have you know feet McKenzie in that that AI competition so we can say
[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_06]: that she is decent at least and it's there's a potential that she could win um and so yeah I agree
[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_06]: with you with the three I wanted to give her a four but she's on the block and she could go home so
[01:34:41] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah she has to have a three yeah it's a three for me as well she could be going home I
[01:34:47] [SPEAKER_02]: feel like you know with Tucker leaving I really thought that like this could be a whole new game for her
[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_02]: but it does seem that she's like so tied to the trio that it's like she didn't quite get that
[01:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: reprieve of like okay everyone's starting over it's like she's she's once again on the block
[01:35:05] [SPEAKER_02]: so I think for me yeah it's a three and I thought I do think that she has a potential to stay
[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: she has a potential to move forward and do you know do well but it's just
[01:35:18] [SPEAKER_02]: while she's tied to those three it's not great for her because I don't feel like people feel like
[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: they can just pull her in which is what usually happens after like a part of a showman's goes usually
[01:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: the remaining person can be seen it's like I'm a free agent and I can be taken a swooped up
[01:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and you know taking along for the ride but in this situation she was kind of already tied
[01:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: to a dangerous trio and so they had to put her on the block I guess but um but yeah so we'll see
[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_08]: alright well the audience same exact almost almost to the to the the hundredth gave
[01:35:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Ruby into the same rating as Quinn so they also gave her enough for
[01:36:05] [SPEAKER_08]: alright finally T-Core who last week was holding on with a six
[01:36:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Tucker leaving I do still think was good for T-Core however losing Quinn was not good for T-Core
[01:36:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm not sure that she has handled the fallout optimally at this point. She still is incredibly
[01:36:32] [SPEAKER_08]: strong socially and has a way better position than she should given how things played out
[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and I think that is all the credit to her but I'm not sure I see her making the most of it right now
[01:36:48] [SPEAKER_06]: what do you think about that? I think that I have to respect her social game even though she's not
[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_06]: utilizing it in a way that we wanted to she hasn't been on the block as well. She's one that
[01:37:03] [SPEAKER_06]: everybody still wants to talk to or keep in the game or work with. I don't know if her bridges
[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_06]: burned with Quinn for her not really nurturing that relationship after this whole fallout but he's
[01:37:14] [SPEAKER_06]: seemingly wants to work with her and that's pretty impressive. I know she's upset that maybe
[01:37:21] [SPEAKER_06]: whatever allies might go home but it could end up being good for her in the end and so I think that
[01:37:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I was fluctuating between two numbers. I think I'm gonna have to give her a five just because
[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_06]: she's not used like she's not doing enough. Like if she wants to keep her allies there,
[01:37:45] [SPEAKER_06]: like work to keep her allies there if she wants to mend her fences with Quinn do that like she
[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_06]: just I wanted her to be a little bit more active and kind of you know use the position that she's
[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_06]: in to really make some more solid relationships even though she's really great socially. She
[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_06]: isn't a pretty good you know position. I think that she just could be in a better position
[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_06]: that could serve her later down the road. So I'm giving her a five I was wanting to
[01:38:13] [SPEAKER_06]: give her a six and you guys might convince me to give her a six but bye for now.
[01:38:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like like I just feel like last week was just such a bad week for her. I feel like
[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_02]: she lost Tucker which I think was a bad move for her because I feel like that's like a shield
[01:38:29] [SPEAKER_02]: like she didn't have to do that and then you know the fact that she there there was the whole
[01:38:34] [SPEAKER_02]: hindsight I mean that's not good for her. She's on the wrong side there she lost Quinn.
[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Now Quinn's HOH her allies are on the block like one of her allies could really go home and
[01:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: that's not good for her and she's not really handling this well in terms of you know
[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: not trying to campaign or not trying to you know men things of Quinn or with the people who
[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_02]: flipped like I just feel like it's it's it's not great but I do think like socially she does well
[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_02]: like strategically know but socially I think people really like her and they want you know to
[01:39:10] [SPEAKER_02]: still work with her which is great for her but it's like and so for me it's it's difficult because
[01:39:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to give her like a four but I think her social game is so much better that I would be
[01:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: forced to kind of bump it up. I just it's it's tricky. Yeah well I agree with Chantau I think the
[01:39:33] [SPEAKER_08]: five is appropriate. I think she has a lot of runway I think that there's a lot of opportunity for T-Core
[01:39:40] [SPEAKER_08]: there's still a chance that she might be able to keep both Rubina and Kimo which would be very
[01:39:45] [SPEAKER_08]: very effective for her especially because it means that there's strife between the other side
[01:39:50] [SPEAKER_08]: of the house. There's still a pathway I think that she could be doing she could be more effective
[01:39:56] [SPEAKER_08]: right now but I think she's still very good but and I and I do disagree I do think that last week
[01:40:06] [SPEAKER_08]: wasn't that much of the failure for T-Core. I do think that the bigger failure was
[01:40:12] [SPEAKER_08]: the back of her when I think that Lou like because ultimately like there are a lot of people in
[01:40:20] [SPEAKER_08]: this house that wouldn't have touched the trio I think and that would have just gone ahead and
[01:40:27] [SPEAKER_08]: put up Joseph or whatever right like right from the get go and wouldn't have been as actively
[01:40:33] [SPEAKER_08]: targeting them you know not not like camera or MJ but certainly I think Chelsea would have been a
[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_08]: little more hesitant to target them and I think that Angela would have been more hesitant
[01:40:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and Joseph wouldn't have targeted them and the three of them could have won and so there were a
[01:40:49] [SPEAKER_08]: lot of options that could have worked out this week and I think the bigger failure last week was just
[01:40:56] [SPEAKER_08]: again like not locking in on Quinn but T-Core herself didn't even wasn't even like super
[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_08]: of fault there like it wasn't T-Core that lost Quinn it was it was Kimo more so that's why Quinn
[01:41:06] [SPEAKER_08]: is happy with T-Core or or fine with T-Core and not happy with Kimo but yeah I mean this
[01:41:13] [SPEAKER_08]: week not a great week for her I think things have not turned out very well so I will agree with
[01:41:19] [SPEAKER_08]: the five I think there's plenty of opportunity moving forward but it's not therefore her right now
[01:41:23] [SPEAKER_08]: and losing Kimo or Rubina right before jury definitely sucks for her that's what happens
[01:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: mm-hmm yeah I'm gonna get rid of the five as well all right and it's gonna be straight
[01:41:33] [SPEAKER_08]: five's because the audience gave her five wow wow another five she's there's two five's MJ
[01:41:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and T-Core there you go all right so there it is that is the new board here for the stock watch
[01:41:50] [SPEAKER_08]: this week and what a what a what a changing landscape here definitely every week it's like
[01:41:58] [SPEAKER_08]: do do you never know truly it is all over the place on the big brother 26 stock watch all right
[01:42:08] [SPEAKER_08]: how are your stocks tearing um I held again last week you gotta hold with these I was there there is
[01:42:16] [SPEAKER_08]: too much up in the air for me I'm not taking a risk that that was a mistake because a lot of people
[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_08]: made a lot of money I bet this week with with Chelsea and everything yeah I think I just fell uh
[01:42:28] [SPEAKER_08]: that far but I definitely fell out of the top 20 there I've been sorry I was 20 like this
[01:42:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I've been well this season but this was uh this was my first big mistake
[01:42:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I couldn't take the game I didn't think Tucker was gonna lose yeah I didn't think Tucker was
[01:42:49] [SPEAKER_08]: gonna lose shocking yeah oh well what are you gonna do um all right well uh all right any final
[01:42:58] [SPEAKER_08]: thoughts here uh on the week I should feel like every week is a different week and it's like
[01:43:04] [SPEAKER_02]: it's so different each week like okay well I get that this like it just yeah every week technically
[01:43:11] [SPEAKER_02]: is a different week but it's just a little different game every week and I feel like the ratings are
[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not as standardized as it usually is I'll say that I feel like usually it's like the people who are
[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: bad are bad and the people who are good are good and the people who aren't really doing much
[01:43:27] [SPEAKER_02]: or just in between and now I feel like it's like every week the good people flip flop with bad people
[01:43:32] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone's you know it's all over the place so it is it's very exciting you never know what's
[01:43:37] [SPEAKER_06]: gonna happen so what do we have to anticipate this week that there's gonna be an announcement so
[01:43:42] [SPEAKER_08]: we're suspecting that's Jerry correct I assume AI Arena ends Jerry starts double eviction next week
[01:43:49] [SPEAKER_06]: that's my something along those lines maybe through those two now who's gonna win that I feel like
[01:43:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Quinn's gonna end up going home or so I don't know Quinn and Joe's like magic oh no I guess
[01:44:02] [SPEAKER_06]: wouldn't be both yeah Joseph then Quinn that would be crazy but that could I could see if like
[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_06]: to try to do this whole women's alliance thing and then Kemo is kind of with them on that
[01:44:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that's it right I feel like it should be like an easy thing to be like yeah let's do a
[01:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: women's alliance like there's way more girls than guys like let's just kick out the remaining
[01:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: guys and continue on like I feel like it's so it's so simple but yet I don't see it happening
[01:44:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean is it though right because if you're Leah two of the guys or your minions
[01:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: true okay it doesn't benefit you like it's a overall it's simple but you know yeah
[01:44:43] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah so there it doesn't that doesn't necessarily benefit yeah well
[01:44:50] [SPEAKER_06]: never gonna have a real alliance so I'm definitely kept on my toes this season and it's not predictable
[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_06]: it's actually very entertaining I won't work strategy but maybe we're gonna get it with Chelsea so
[01:45:03] [SPEAKER_06]: that's what I said I'm pitching my wagon to Chelsea and hopefully she'll you know but allow me to
[01:45:07] [SPEAKER_06]: feed on her strategy oh so but I like it the season's pretty good I'm enjoying it all right well
[01:45:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's what we have for you then this week on the Big Brother 26 roundtable podcast I will of
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[01:45:26] [SPEAKER_08]: the Big Brother 26 live feeds tomorrow night I'll be on twitch as well streaming during the episode
[01:45:31] [SPEAKER_08]: coming hang out with me as we react to it it's gonna be the video episode so we're gonna see all
[01:45:36] [SPEAKER_08]: of this clean Leah stuff it's gonna be very fun and then of course podcast after that and then tomorrow
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[01:46:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I was actually question is anybody covering industry because I just started watching
[01:46:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I just watched the first season and I'm like whoa what's this so I turned off covering the
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[01:46:16] [SPEAKER_08]: and listen to that you're where I am shantel I'm I'm I'm I'm one more episode in season one and then
[01:46:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm getting into season two but listen the big brother feeds have been good I know holding me back
[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_06]: well yes I want to catch up on that but I don't really have much going on so you can find me on Twitter
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