BB26 Quinn Martin Deep Dive Part 2

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[00:00:56] Hello everyone and welcome back to the Quinn Deep Dive here at RHAP.

[00:01:03] I'm your host Taren Armstrong, back for part two of this big old deep dive with Quinn from Big Brother 26.

[00:01:10] We're gonna dive right back into this deepness as we continue to talk about his experience on the show.

[00:01:21] And I hope you enjoy. Let's get back to it.

[00:01:24] Okay, so that's what Cedric is doing.

[00:01:29] Um, you, this, this, this week, I will say, so, uh, this is week four, your HOH week.

[00:01:38] Um, you did not, did not do well in Stockwatch.

[00:01:42] Uh, down to a three in the Stockwatch.

[00:01:44] Uh, not really utilizing the HOH in the way that you perhaps should.

[00:01:49] Um, Chelsea and Brooklyn still up at the top with sevens.

[00:01:54] Uh, literally everyone else five or below.

[00:01:59] Um, but, uh, but a big part of this week, I was really, I was like banging the drum.

[00:02:06] I was like, okay, Quinn is obviously going to be HOH.

[00:02:10] Obviously he's gonna be looking at targeting Tucker.

[00:02:12] You might see Rubina take a hit.

[00:02:14] Um, but watch out for Leah because the second Quinn comes into power, there's gonna be so many people throwing Leah under the bus to protect their own people because it makes so much more sense to throw Leah under the bus and have her be the target.

[00:02:30] Uh, because she's not connected to enough people that would want to protect her.

[00:02:34] Um, and boy, was I wrong because it didn't, it didn't, and it, it immediately came out of T-Core and Kimo's mouths.

[00:02:46] They were like, we should throw Leah under the bus to protect Rubina.

[00:02:49] Uh, and I was like, yep, okay, here we go.

[00:02:52] Uh, and then it just never really happened.

[00:02:56] Uh, they, I think had like a very vague conversation with you that was like, maybe watch out and you have your meeting with Leah, which she was not feeling, um, in the moment.

[00:03:09] And I think you, you noticed that she wasn't feeling it.

[00:03:12] You talked to them after you were like, I got a weird vibe from Leah in that conversation.

[00:03:17] I was like, here's the opening.

[00:03:18] Yeah.

[00:03:19] I, I tested her, um, during our conversation.

[00:03:22] Um, I have the context that McKenzie has said my name in front of Chelsea, at least, um, that I would, I should go on the block if she wins power, like whatever.

[00:03:35] So I test Leah and ask her, um, do you think McKenzie's going after me?

[00:03:40] Leah instantly throws McKenzie under the bus, but it's simultaneously.

[00:03:43] Like, I don't think that she's going after you though.

[00:03:46] And so I knew that that was a lie.

[00:03:48] I got a weird vibe from it, but it was like, what can you do in that situation?

[00:03:54] I asked chemo and T core who are business meeting is the two of them.

[00:03:59] Right.

[00:04:00] Uh, which is hilarious.

[00:04:01] And then I felt like I did a good job asking.

[00:04:05] My mom assures me that I did a good job asking about like Rubina.

[00:04:09] And I was like, are you guys comfortable with that?

[00:04:11] Like, I was so worried that I was going to be like high some where I'm like speaking over people strategically and like just doing too much.

[00:04:19] And so when flash forward, like five weeks later, they're like, um, actually, when you put Rubina on the block, we didn't appreciate that.

[00:04:27] I felt like I did a great job asking, are you comfortable?

[00:04:31] Like I shared the reasons why of, you know, her proximity to Tucker.

[00:04:36] She's always going to choose him over me.

[00:04:38] And then like, what's a guy to do in that situation?

[00:04:42] Did I do a good job in your opinion of gauging their comfortability with putting Rubina on the block?

[00:04:49] Um, I mean, I don't think you did a terrible job.

[00:04:52] Um, like, I don't think that you did as bad a job as sort of like they felt you were doing.

[00:04:58] Um, I think that there was a lot of responsibility that lied in their laps.

[00:05:05] Uh, that, uh, they like, uh, it was very much like, um, like you were driving and it was like, well, where should we go to eat?

[00:05:16] Um, and they were like, literally anywhere you want Quinn.

[00:05:20] And you're like, uh, why could we go to McDonald's?

[00:05:23] And they were like, sure, let's go to McDonald's.

[00:05:27] And then like a couple of years later, they were like, we hated you from the moment you forced us to go to McDonald's.

[00:05:33] It was like, what do you mean?

[00:05:36] Um, however, uh, in this analogy, you kind of know that they don't like McDonald's, right?

[00:05:42] Like you kind of know that this is not something that they would like to do.

[00:05:46] Um, so, uh, there, and, and this is a social game.

[00:05:49] Uh, so like, I do think that like in a moment like this, if you want to be like retaining their loyalty in the way that you were trying to, obviously like when you're in power, when you're HOH, you really need to make people not only like agree to be okay with it, but feel like they're included in the decision-making.

[00:06:08] You know, this from the Pentagon situation.

[00:06:10] Um, and so, uh, like maybe that's where you could have done better.

[00:06:14] But like, for me, this was more of the story of Kimo and T-Corps who from the second the week started, we're like, it's going to put up Rubina.

[00:06:24] I really hope he doesn't put up Rubina.

[00:06:26] We need to stop him from putting up Rubina, but what if he does, but what if he wants to put up Rubina?

[00:06:29] Well, what if, should we throw Leah under the bus to protect Rubina?

[00:06:32] And it was like, like T-Corps, you've done this before.

[00:06:35] You went straight to Cedric and you were like, please don't put up Rubina.

[00:06:40] And he didn't, uh, like just do that again.

[00:06:44] Right?

[00:06:45] Like, like they, the most that I remember getting from that, from them was that Leah was not good for my game.

[00:06:55] Mm-hmm.

[00:06:56] But simultaneously, I'm witnessing Kimo ice her out strategically in a way that makes absolutely zero sense to me.

[00:07:06] And so I assumed that like T-Corps is just riding this wave.

[00:07:10] And I'm like, I do have a final two with Leah that in my, like, I'm pretty loyal to, like, I haven't done the greatest job of maintaining it.

[00:07:19] And I can feel that there's a distance like brewing.

[00:07:21] Um, absolutely.

[00:07:22] And that's something that, you know, I just, I'll give her space.

[00:07:26] Like I could, I would walk into rooms and then she's leaving.

[00:07:28] I sit down, she leaves, stuff like that, like things that I'm cognizant of.

[00:07:31] Um, and so I'm like, okay, so whatever's happening, but no one's telling me anything or the things that they're saying.

[00:07:39] So I have no idea.

[00:07:40] I straight up told Leah that week.

[00:07:41] I was like, I will never put you on the block, bro.

[00:07:43] Like I want to work with you.

[00:07:46] Absolutely.

[00:07:47] Meanwhile, she's cooking me and I just have no clue.

[00:07:50] It's stupid.

[00:07:53] Yeah.

[00:07:53] So, okay.

[00:07:54] So the thing eventually, like, I think a lot of people were on the same page this week that they were like, what are T-Corps and Kimo doing?

[00:08:02] They need to protect Rubina by telling Quinn about Leah or do, or even just saying anything about like, please don't put Rubina on the block.

[00:08:12] Um, and, uh, and over time as they start to reveal a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more and then finally have like some level of conversation with you about it.

[00:08:24] Uh, by then it's like, you are like, that's fine, whatever.

[00:08:29] And it doesn't seem to work.

[00:08:30] And so the question now is, had they come to you that week, week four and said, Quinn, this is what Leah has been saying about you.

[00:08:41] Would it had, would it have worked?

[00:08:43] Would at that point, because from my perspective, I think at that point it had a chance to work, might've worked by the time they eventually got to it.

[00:08:52] You were too far down that rabbit hole.

[00:08:54] I, it's an interesting thing because strategically I do think that putting Rubina up makes sense.

[00:09:03] And so if they're coming to me with that, I think that it opens the door to like a facilitated conversation between Leah and myself where it's like, we're, or, and they're there where it's like, kind of like when Derek has a conversation with Victoria and Zach, where he's, Hey, let's get to the bottom of this right now.

[00:09:24] That's kind of the direction that I would have taken it.

[00:09:26] Well, I think that's what they were afraid of.

[00:09:28] Yeah.

[00:09:29] Maybe that's why they didn't say something, but, um, I think that that's the direction I would take, which, Oh, I'm sorry.

[00:09:36] T core.

[00:09:36] Do you not want that to happen?

[00:09:38] It happened to me with Angela.

[00:09:41] So thanks for that, dude.

[00:09:42] Like you can recognize why that might not be great.

[00:09:45] Um, thanks brother.

[00:09:46] Um, I think that had I heard the things that she was like, for real saying that would have hurt me in a way that like, I would have cried.

[00:09:57] Like I can't watch this stuff now.

[00:09:59] Um, cause it hurts my feelings.

[00:10:01] So had I heard it in the moment, I think that, um, I w I maybe would have put her up.

[00:10:07] I don't know because to me it's Rubina is way too obvious of a situation to like her proximity to Tucker.

[00:10:17] And if we don't get him out, I have to weaken him somehow.

[00:10:22] And he hates Leah's guts at this point, like where he's, you know, saying all these crazy things about her.

[00:10:29] So I felt like it would make sense if Leah didn't align with him.

[00:10:34] I don't know.

[00:10:34] I probably wouldn't have put her up.

[00:10:36] I'll be real.

[00:10:37] I'm an idiot.

[00:10:38] What are you talking about?

[00:10:39] There you go.

[00:10:41] Um, okay.

[00:10:42] But okay.

[00:10:43] The next question is then if they come to you and they just say like, Quinn, we really want this to work.

[00:10:50] We're the visionaries, right?

[00:10:51] Like I know that Tucker is not working right now in terms of like what we're trying to do, but you can't put Rubina up.

[00:11:01] She's, she's a number for us.

[00:11:03] Uh, like I, I'm telling you, you can trust Rubina.

[00:11:07] She's with us.

[00:11:07] Please don't put her on the block.

[00:11:09] Does that work?

[00:11:10] I think that that is the much more like functional conversation just because I felt like there was personal, like reasons for chemo, like to feel like Leah should go on the block.

[00:11:21] And so to me, I felt like that would cloud his strategic judgment.

[00:11:25] If they're drawing a line in the sand and they're like, if you want this to work, we have to figure it out.

[00:11:31] Um, that conversation feels a lot more doable, but at the same time, how convenient for Tucker and, and company that I'm not going to put her up.

[00:11:42] You know, it would have been nice.

[00:11:44] Had you talked to me about Cedric's probably going home.

[00:11:47] Um, and so I was feeling a little bit miffed in the moment or no, that's the, that hasn't happened yet.

[00:11:53] Nevermind.

[00:11:54] Um, sorry.

[00:11:54] I was thinking weeks ahead, but, um, so like at that point, honestly, yeah.

[00:11:59] Yeah.

[00:12:00] At that point, if they say, yo, for the visionary sake, we can't do this.

[00:12:04] I'd be like, then who Leah let's figure it out.

[00:12:10] Um, when, but my thing is, I don't know how functional that is because when Leah did get exposed for the things that she was saying about me, which I didn't get like the full front of, I only got like 10% of it.

[00:12:23] Um, we had a really nice conversation in the backyard, which I felt like mended our friendship.

[00:12:28] And then moving forward, it was like whatever friendship.

[00:12:32] Right.

[00:12:33] And then an alliance, whatever.

[00:12:35] So I'm curious on if that comes out, if she's able to talk herself off the block, probably.

[00:12:44] Um, but that was, that was my thing was that like, I felt like once the ball got rolling, like everyone else would jump on board too, because at the very least, just like, I think a lot of people felt really comfortable with Leah as a pawn.

[00:13:01] Um, it would like throw Leah up as a pawn with, it takes up a seat.

[00:13:06] Um, and if the only, if the only reason you're not putting her up is that you think that your best friends and that you have like a crush on her, then like, sorry, Quinn, we have some things to tell you.

[00:13:15] Uh, and with like the whole momentum of that, I felt like there was a lot of potential there, but, uh, but, but as we saw later in the season, it didn't always work like that with how things went.

[00:13:27] So yeah, I think to your point, like there's definitely, there's some risk there.

[00:13:31] I, I think that strategically it just makes more sense.

[00:13:37] Like even now with full context of everything to me, it still makes sense to put Rubina up as the replacement nominee.

[00:13:43] I didn't put her up as the initial, which I felt like was a sign of good faith.

[00:13:48] Maybe like, Hey, Cedric volunteered for the block.

[00:13:51] That's crazy.

[00:13:52] Um, you know, that kind of thing.

[00:13:54] But I think maybe if the whole house had come to me specifically, if Brooklyn had come to me and said like, Quinn, I'm being serious.

[00:14:02] The things that Leah is saying about you, you need to put her up.

[00:14:07] I would follow Brooklyn.

[00:14:08] I think that that's the solution, but I don't think the visionaries were cool with Brooklyn like that, even though they had the five points of lines.

[00:14:15] The five points of lines.

[00:14:17] Five points with a Z, by the way.

[00:14:19] So funny.

[00:14:20] It was with a Z.

[00:14:21] Um, and Brooklyn was like not supposed to be in it.

[00:14:25] She was just like in the room at the time.

[00:14:28] She's the greatest player of all time.

[00:14:29] I'm obsessed with her.

[00:14:30] She's so good.

[00:14:31] I love her.

[00:14:33] Um, okay.

[00:14:35] So the rest of this week plays like they were very concerned that you would put up Rubina, but they also didn't want to talk to you about it.

[00:14:42] Uh, you end up having to put up Rubina because, uh, Tucker wins the veto.

[00:14:46] Um, and the rest of the week plays out in a way that is like, okay, so Rubina is going to go.

[00:14:54] Um, except T-Core and Kimo really don't want that to happen.

[00:14:59] And Tucker the whole time has no idea that Rubina is going.

[00:15:02] Tucker the whole time thinks it's Cedric.

[00:15:04] Um, and then T-Core and Kimo are lying to him initially.

[00:15:08] Like, yeah, yeah, I'm sure we have the votes because they've got like the five points.

[00:15:11] Brooklyn is lying to them.

[00:15:12] Um, or lying to him.

[00:15:14] Um, and, uh, eventually Kimo is kind of just like, we can't do this.

[00:15:20] We can't lose Rubina.

[00:15:23] And there's a bunch of back and forth.

[00:15:25] I got very frustrated because it was like night after night.

[00:15:28] It was like, they'd have long late night conversations about like, we need to do this.

[00:15:33] Tomorrow morning, we're going to talk to this person, this person, this person.

[00:15:37] We're going to, we're going to figure out if this, we can do this flip.

[00:15:40] And then I would be like, okay, so right now there's a potential flip in the works.

[00:15:44] Uh, but we'll find out tomorrow morning.

[00:15:45] Then the next day I'd be like, okay, so they haven't had the conversations yet, but they

[00:15:50] talked a lot more about it last night.

[00:15:52] So today they're going to have, and then it wasn't until like the, the night of, um,

[00:15:59] that they finally, like Kimo's pushing hard.

[00:16:02] Uh, T-Core's pushing back for a little while.

[00:16:05] She sleeps on it the day of she wakes up and she's like, you know what?

[00:16:09] I thought about it.

[00:16:10] Let's do it.

[00:16:10] Um, I watched the Ethanamail video of, um, where maybe what set this in motion was me

[00:16:18] not being able to vote, which I promise you.

[00:16:24] I promise you also Angela getting to compete the next week.

[00:16:28] I promise you that was not, that's crazy is all I'm saying.

[00:16:34] Um, do you think me not having a vote and that the, now the number, the ratio is different.

[00:16:39] Do you think that that pushed the vote in that direction or was it always going to happen?

[00:16:44] Um, I think it was always going to happen.

[00:16:46] I think that it didn't hurt.

[00:16:48] Um, but like there was so much uncertainty about it before then, and there was already

[00:16:53] so much talk about it anyway.

[00:16:54] Um, I think that, uh, and you know, I correct me if I'm wrong, but they had the votes regardless

[00:17:01] of whether, yeah, because it was a six to nine vote.

[00:17:04] So, um, so it wasn't like that unlocked the numbers.

[00:17:08] Um, but yeah, I mean, it was definitely like, it eased the path for sure because, uh, you're

[00:17:16] not voting.

[00:17:17] Uh, Angela's competing.

[00:17:19] Like, like the, just like these things that like your positioning was a little bit worse

[00:17:23] moving forward, which made it, I think a little easier.

[00:17:25] But, but I don't think that like, from my perspective, those things were not used as a reason.

[00:17:32] Like T-Core's decision was like, Hey, I really thought about it all night long.

[00:17:36] She gave this big speech.

[00:17:37] I don't know if you've, you've seen a clip of this, but like, um, I might have it written

[00:17:42] down somewhere if I could remember the, the, the day this was, do you remember the day of

[00:17:47] Cedric's eviction?

[00:17:48] Do you have that memorized still?

[00:17:50] Yeah.

[00:17:51] Yeah.

[00:17:52] Day 30.

[00:17:53] What?

[00:17:54] Hold on.

[00:17:55] I have it in here.

[00:17:59] This is my, uh, big brother Bible here.

[00:18:07] Let's see.

[00:18:09] Cedric dies day 31.

[00:18:11] Day 31.

[00:18:12] Okay.

[00:18:12] Let's hope that I wrote it down and didn't just memorize it myself.

[00:18:15] Um, okay.

[00:18:17] T-Core and Kimo wake up early.

[00:18:18] T-Core tells Kimo she's decided she wants to go through the flip and it had been Kimo

[00:18:22] that was pushing.

[00:18:23] She says, I was thinking about the civil rights movement.

[00:18:26] Um, and how you never actually make progress if you don't do the scary thing.

[00:18:32] Um, and so it's time to do the scary thing.

[00:18:35] Uh, and Kimo is like, oh my God, you're pumping me up right now.

[00:18:40] I was having second thoughts about it last night, but now I'm down.

[00:18:43] Like now I'm on board.

[00:18:49] Cedric got voted out because of the civil rights movement with the headline everywhere.

[00:18:55] Oh my God.

[00:18:57] And I'm not going to lie.

[00:18:58] If she said that to me, I'd get fired up too.

[00:19:01] I'd be like, yeah, let's do it.

[00:19:03] Like, turn up.

[00:19:04] Malcolm X is from Omaha, Nebraska.

[00:19:07] Like I would have been going crazy.

[00:19:09] That is what an awesome quote.

[00:19:13] I've been thinking about the civil rights movement.

[00:19:15] Cedric's got to go.

[00:19:17] It was very exciting.

[00:19:19] Like it was, it was a wild day because they're like, okay.

[00:19:23] Because it was seemed like Kimo was pushing T-Core was not on board.

[00:19:26] And until T-Core got on board, it was not going to happen.

[00:19:28] But she thinks about it.

[00:19:29] She gives this speech to Kimo in the morning and they're like, okay, let's do this.

[00:19:33] Kimo talks to Joseph and he's like, are you down to flip?

[00:19:36] And Joseph is like, no, I don't, I don't know.

[00:19:39] I don't, I don't think this is a good idea.

[00:19:42] And Kimo gets pissed.

[00:19:43] Like this is the most fired up Kimo is in the game ever.

[00:19:48] And he's like ranting and raving to T-Core.

[00:19:52] Like these people, they won't play the game the way that they need to.

[00:19:56] Like this is stupid.

[00:19:57] I hate this.

[00:19:59] And it's like, I've never seen Kimo like that before or after.

[00:20:03] And then later Joseph comes back to them and he's like, okay, thinking about this.

[00:20:08] If you've got Leah and MJ, I'm on board.

[00:20:11] I assume because he realized they have the votes, even if I don't agree to do this.

[00:20:16] And of course they did with Leah and MJ.

[00:20:19] So it all, you know, kind of comes together last minute.

[00:20:24] And, and then the vote goes down.

[00:20:26] And of course it would have been MJ, if not Rubina.

[00:20:30] But MJ happens to just barely win that AI arena.

[00:20:34] And, and the flip goes through.

[00:20:37] And, and then I'm sure you caught this at the end of the episode.

[00:20:41] This is the, like such a great ending to this episode.

[00:20:51] We did that.

[00:20:52] We did that.

[00:20:53] Oh my goodness.

[00:20:54] Some fun behind the scenes.

[00:20:56] Like Cedric was talking to Joseph about it.

[00:20:58] And he's like, if I could do anything, he thought about playing defense for that AI arena.

[00:21:03] He taught, he told us that in the exit interview.

[00:21:05] Oh, that is such a cool, like, man, I wish that would have happened because what an awesome player.

[00:21:10] Like, man, that is a cool, like, that's awesome.

[00:21:14] Yeah.

[00:21:14] Yeah.

[00:21:14] I, we, I think we discussed like, would that have been allowed?

[00:21:19] Like, cause listen, you don't ask permission.

[00:21:21] Like, hey, we're doing it live, baby.

[00:21:24] Um, that night he gets that day.

[00:21:29] Um, Cedric has kind of like a wild look in his eyes.

[00:21:32] Like you can tell he's very nervous.

[00:21:34] And so, um, I know that he plays sports, like whatever.

[00:21:39] This is going to deeply contrast when Joseph's going into the AI arena.

[00:21:43] This is why I bring it up.

[00:21:44] Just how I carry, like deal with different people.

[00:21:46] So Cedric is like walking.

[00:21:48] He's got kind of a look in his eye.

[00:21:49] He's got some pacing going on.

[00:21:50] And I just walk up two hands to his chest, quit freaking out.

[00:21:55] And he was like, what?

[00:21:56] I was like, do what you were born to do and win.

[00:21:58] And then he just wouldn't leave him.

[00:22:00] And he's like, all right, he's locked in and focus.

[00:22:02] And then I'll tell you about Joseph and the AI arena.

[00:22:05] But I'm like me getting fired up for him.

[00:22:08] It's just like physically attacking him and being like, lock it in and do your job.

[00:22:13] Like get in there and work.

[00:22:15] Um, the whole day I am like soothing the concerns of, um, Chelsea cam.

[00:22:23] I'm like, guys, chemo and T-core are not going to flip.

[00:22:27] It's not going to happen.

[00:22:28] Don't stress.

[00:22:29] I'll talk to them because in my head, I'm like, we're the visionaries.

[00:22:33] They're not going to leave me in the dust.

[00:22:35] If they were going to do this, they would have tipped me off.

[00:22:38] And then I would have just known.

[00:22:39] And then now this is happening.

[00:22:42] They left me out completely, obviously.

[00:22:45] And then, um, simultaneously it was crazy how Brooklyn was kind of also on the like nice

[00:22:54] end of this move because she was pissed when the flip was going to be between McKenzie

[00:23:01] and Rubina.

[00:23:02] They wanted like Chelsea and cam wanted to keep McKenzie.

[00:23:08] And so, uh, Brooklyn was equally as pissed off as I was where it's like, no, quit trying

[00:23:15] to take control of this.

[00:23:16] Like we need to send MJ home.

[00:23:19] We need to send MJ home.

[00:23:20] Like, please stop doing this.

[00:23:22] Uh, and so when Brooklyn's getting cooked the next week, it's like super puzzling to

[00:23:29] me.

[00:23:30] Cause I'm like, technically she was trying to help out with Rubina.

[00:23:34] Like, if you think about it, you know, had you probably told her about the flip, she probably

[00:23:39] would have followed as well.

[00:23:40] Maybe.

[00:23:41] I don't know.

[00:23:42] Um, very interesting.

[00:23:44] The vote out happens.

[00:23:46] I'm very upset just because I voted out the only other Oklahoma in the house.

[00:23:51] He's this young kid.

[00:23:52] I feel so bad.

[00:23:54] Um, but I want to assure the visionaries that it's okay.

[00:23:59] During the like two minute drill and everyone's talking about whatever I told chemo before

[00:24:05] the vote, I said, I trust you no matter what you do.

[00:24:08] Like just trying to put a bandaid on this like gaping wound that is being formed right in

[00:24:14] front of me.

[00:24:14] And I'm just trying to, uh, show them, Hey, it's okay.

[00:24:19] I like, you can trust me still.

[00:24:20] I'm not mad.

[00:24:21] I'm not going to hold a grudge.

[00:24:22] Like, please.

[00:24:22] And so I'm in the like weight room talking with chemo and T core.

[00:24:28] And I was like, it's okay.

[00:24:28] We can leverage this.

[00:24:30] Like that side of the house still thinks that I'm with them, but we're in this together.

[00:24:34] Like, please, like this is going to be all right.

[00:24:37] And we're going to get through this.

[00:24:38] I'm not mad.

[00:24:39] I'm trying to communicate this.

[00:24:41] I then go into the bathroom and see Brooklyn.

[00:24:44] And I, this is where I think I'm a pretty good player.

[00:24:46] I don't know.

[00:24:47] Maybe T core and chemo didn't care what I was saying, but then in front of Brooklyn, I just

[00:24:52] look at her and I break down crying.

[00:24:54] And I'm just like, I can't believe they did this to him.

[00:24:58] She's like rubbing my back.

[00:24:59] She's like, it's okay.

[00:25:00] Like you have to be strong.

[00:25:01] I was like, he didn't deserve this.

[00:25:02] Like whatever.

[00:25:03] I'm allowing myself to like feel the emotions in that moment.

[00:25:06] But I thought that was so sick.

[00:25:08] I have no idea if chemo and T core even like gave a heck of what I was doing, but.

[00:25:15] No, it was wild.

[00:25:17] This, and this is part of where I think like I was talking about like your superpower, which

[00:25:21] was that like you were able to be screwed over by people left and right and allowed them

[00:25:28] to still feel comfortable with you, which is a hard thing to do because if somebody screws

[00:25:32] you over, they often feel like, well, that bridge is burned.

[00:25:35] Which is sort of like what you, not that you screwed Rubina over too poorly, too badly,

[00:25:38] but like you kind of felt that way with Rubina.

[00:25:40] Um, and, uh, and, and like that was a big thing because it was hugely down to, uh, you know,

[00:25:49] uh, like T core and chemo and Rubina's influence that, uh, that you survive the following week

[00:25:56] when Tucker is the HOH, um, because they are pushing hard for you to stay.

[00:26:00] Um, and I don't think you even knew a lot of that was happening at the time.

[00:26:06] Um, I'm sure you like, I think you like knew that it was happening to some degree, but like,

[00:26:09] they were like, Oh, we're pushing so hard.

[00:26:10] And then later they were like, we did so much work for you.

[00:26:12] And like, what, like they did, but like only in the sense that like, uh, you know, we've

[00:26:19] talked about this a lot in these games, but it's like, yeah, it's great that you kept me

[00:26:22] from getting my head chopped off, but you left me in the gallows.

[00:26:26] It's like, yeah, you put me in danger.

[00:26:28] And I also thought that Joseph did a way better job of claiming credit.

[00:26:32] He did.

[00:26:33] He did.

[00:26:33] And he also was pushing.

[00:26:35] Yeah.

[00:26:35] I do believe that he kind of told me his approach of where it was just him talking about how

[00:26:40] bad of a player I was to like shrink my threat level with Tucker, which I think is hilarious.

[00:26:46] I fully co-signed it.

[00:26:47] Um, but it was interesting in when Rubina, chemo and T core would talk to me about Tucker.

[00:26:56] It was like, he was this wild raging hyena that they couldn't control.

[00:27:00] And he's like doing whatever, but they're like, we're trying to talk to him.

[00:27:03] And I'm like, Oh, you abandoned me for a guy who you can't even like strategize with.

[00:27:11] And so then when they came back later saying that they did all this work for me, I'm like,

[00:27:16] I don't know if I buy it because in the moment you didn't even buy it.

[00:27:20] It worked out versus Joseph would tell me like, bro, I got you.

[00:27:25] I'm like trying really hard to keep you out the block.

[00:27:28] Like I'm working.

[00:27:28] And it's like, I know what advocation looks like from Joseph.

[00:27:33] And normally it's just like a, Hey, please don't put them up.

[00:27:36] And then that's as far as he goes.

[00:27:37] But I'm like, at least he's trying to communicate versus Rubina, chemo and T core are like, they're

[00:27:45] not even convinced with what they're selling me.

[00:27:47] I mean, to be fair, I think that Joseph probably has the bigger impact here.

[00:27:51] Uh, like, especially because Tucker would often get mad when T core chemo and Rubina vouched

[00:28:01] for you.

[00:28:02] He was like, why are you vouching for him?

[00:28:04] Like, stop it.

[00:28:05] You shouldn't be trusting him.

[00:28:06] Um, and then, uh, Joseph would be like, yeah, he's an idiot.

[00:28:10] He doesn't know what he's doing.

[00:28:11] He's so bad at this game.

[00:28:14] Um, and Tucker at first was like, yeah, you're right.

[00:28:16] You're right.

[00:28:16] You're right.

[00:28:17] Uh, but then eventually he was coming back.

[00:28:18] He was like, I don't know, man.

[00:28:19] Cause T core and chemo and Rubina, like they're all, they're still vouching for him all this

[00:28:23] so much.

[00:28:24] And, uh, and Joseph had to be like, this guy doesn't even know he calls himself a super

[00:28:28] fan and he doesn't even know.

[00:28:30] I don't remember what the thing you mixed up was, but like, he was talking about like

[00:28:33] season 21.

[00:28:34] He felt like this person was on season 20.

[00:28:35] Like he doesn't even know what he's talking about.

[00:28:37] Um, yeah.

[00:28:39] Oh my gosh.

[00:28:40] And what was so annoying about being the super fan is I knew that everything I was saying

[00:28:45] was going to get like fact checked.

[00:28:47] And I'm like, I famously, I like don't have a great memory.

[00:28:51] And so I'm like, like, I think I called him, uh, Robert from season three instead of season

[00:28:57] four and he never let it rose or let it rest.

[00:29:01] I'm like, all right, Joseph, I get it.

[00:29:04] I'm an idiot.

[00:29:05] What do you want from me, brother?

[00:29:07] Please.

[00:29:08] Uh, um, yes.

[00:29:10] Uh, and, and I don't, I, I don't know if you've seen this, but like at one point, I think Joseph

[00:29:15] told you, told you about this at one point.

[00:29:16] Uh, he, he said straight up to Joseph, like, um, like I'm keeping Quinn around for you.

[00:29:22] Like if I go out, like you'll, you'll have Quinn that you can work with.

[00:29:29] Okay.

[00:29:30] So elsewhere in the game, uh, Chelsea and Brooklyn have been at the top of the charts for a few

[00:29:36] weeks because they're in such a strong position and because they have managed to pull Rubina,

[00:29:42] they've managed to pull even more importantly, Leah and Mackenzie.

[00:29:46] Um, but there's a hesitancy for us to like go over the top on both of them because they

[00:29:52] don't seem to recognize the value that Leah and Mackenzie hold for them.

[00:29:56] And like, cause like Chelsea has a hold over Mackenzie and she's going around being like,

[00:30:02] this girl won't stop following me.

[00:30:04] Um, and I'm like, dude, this is good for you.

[00:30:07] Like, and, and, and we see it here where like Mackenzie votes Cedric out.

[00:30:12] And like, that should never, Cedric should never have been voted out because Brooklyn and

[00:30:17] Chelsea had the hold over Leah and Mackenzie to stop them from doing that.

[00:30:20] They just didn't use their hold over those two, uh, at that time.

[00:30:25] And so you're like, damn it guys, like you were in such a good spot, but you're not holding

[00:30:29] this spot.

[00:30:30] Um, and it was here after this blind side, uh, where they really start to then separate in

[00:30:37] terms of how they're managing things because Brooklyn, uh, was, uh, uh, uh,

[00:30:42] a little bit in deeper with, uh, the five points and all of them.

[00:30:47] Um, and she is also the one who like goes to Rubina.

[00:30:51] Uh, and I'm sure you've seen this, uh, or you might've seen in the moment to be like,

[00:30:56] yeah, sorry.

[00:30:58] Like it was real the whole time.

[00:31:00] Like, like right before the vote flips and she doesn't even know it's flipping.

[00:31:03] And so now she's panicking and feeling like I need to like damage control.

[00:31:07] And she tries to like say that, Oh, I was lied to about the vote and it wasn't my fault.

[00:31:12] And T core and chemo tricked me into thinking the votes weren't there to like put some blame

[00:31:16] on me.

[00:31:17] And it's like, you understand where that like line of thought comes from, but like, it

[00:31:22] was just too scrambly and it just all blows back on, on Brooklyn.

[00:31:27] I also was a victim of the, like my, I just looked at Rubina and I said, please win.

[00:31:34] If I knew that like chemo and T core were like going to do this, I would look at like,

[00:31:40] I would have absolutely, instead of like having to scramble after the fact.

[00:31:44] And I had like plausible deniability where I was like, I couldn't vote like whatever.

[00:31:47] Um, I would have absolutely been like, I like, you have to win this.

[00:31:52] Like, you don't understand.

[00:31:53] Like, I thought that we had the votes you don't brother.

[00:31:56] Like we need to do everything in our power to keep you here.

[00:31:59] Like all this stuff.

[00:32:00] Instead, it was just me giving her a big hug.

[00:32:02] And I was like, please win.

[00:32:03] All right.

[00:32:04] Like absolutely screwed me over.

[00:32:06] And then after this vote, this is when like the rift between Leah and I like starts.

[00:32:11] And it's because prior to these votes, um, after the Matt situation, Leah walks up to

[00:32:18] me and is like, okay, who are we voting out tonight?

[00:32:20] And I said, this is what I'm hearing.

[00:32:23] I was right the week before, um, Lisa went home, which the most awkward blind side of all

[00:32:31] time.

[00:32:31] I don't know if my DR got used for this.

[00:32:33] I was screaming in there.

[00:32:36] Um, and I was like, Lisa looks like she has just witnessed her own birth.

[00:32:41] Like, this is crazy.

[00:32:43] Like, um, and so I felt like Leah and I had like, we're building momentum.

[00:32:48] And she asks me before the Cedric vote.

[00:32:51] Um, I'm like, I'm pretty sure Cedric is staying.

[00:32:55] Little did I know that there's a slip going on.

[00:32:58] So then I was wrong.

[00:32:59] And I was like, dude, chemo and T core.

[00:33:02] They like fucked me over because now Leah thinks that I'm like scheming with this,

[00:33:06] like majority Alliance to take advantage of her.

[00:33:08] That was not my intention.

[00:33:10] Like you're messing up my game here.

[00:33:11] And I articulate that.

[00:33:12] And then that is when Brooklyn says she's lying to you.

[00:33:17] She are, she's leading you on.

[00:33:19] She doesn't have a crush on you.

[00:33:20] And I'm like, no, she's made it abundantly clear that like, she doesn't have feelings

[00:33:24] for me and that like, it's okay for me to like, like we've discussed it and she's

[00:33:29] okay with me flirting as far as I understand.

[00:33:31] Apparently not.

[00:33:32] Um, but like I straight up ask consent.

[00:33:34] Um, and so then I like say that and then Brooklyn hits me with this crazy follow up and she goes,

[00:33:42] no, she's pretending to be your friend.

[00:33:45] Oh my God.

[00:33:48] Just that hurt.

[00:33:50] If, if anyone is pretending to be my friend, that would have killed me.

[00:33:54] Like, and just to hear that like hurts so bad.

[00:33:58] And so that was the start of Leah and I separation campaign.

[00:34:03] Like it was so hurtful to hear that someone was pretending to be my friend where I'm like,

[00:34:08] bro, I'm pretty maniacal in this game.

[00:34:10] I'm not even doing that.

[00:34:12] Like, damn, that's crazy.

[00:34:15] Yeah.

[00:34:16] But then you, I mean, you have a conversation with her about it.

[00:34:19] Um, and it is seemingly she's kind of like convinces you like, nah, nah, that's not what's

[00:34:24] happening.

[00:34:25] Yeah.

[00:34:26] We, we talked about it in the backyard and pretty much I like tell her like, Hey, I'm

[00:34:33] sorry, but this is like what I've, I've heard.

[00:34:36] And I'm sorry for believing it.

[00:34:38] Um, because that to me is the ultimate cop out apologizing, but I'm also apologizing that

[00:34:43] I believed it.

[00:34:44] I'm sorry, man.

[00:34:45] Um, to which then she like shares the reason why she was whatever, um, was that there's

[00:34:53] this thing that I was pretending to be a feminist.

[00:34:56] Um, and that like, I was trying to use like feminism as a way to work with women as like

[00:35:03] a weapon, which I'm like, okay, first of all, even if that were the case, I'm still working

[00:35:08] with the women in that situation.

[00:35:09] And then she's like, I also heard that like the only reason you wanted to be in the pedal

[00:35:13] room is so that you could spy on the women and sell it out to the guys.

[00:35:17] Um, and then she had been like told, I don't know how true this is, but like, she had been

[00:35:22] told that like, um, since she said she wasn't interested in me, like romantically that then

[00:35:29] all of a sudden I was like trying to get her out of the game.

[00:35:31] And I was like, yo, I'm not that type of person.

[00:35:34] Like I would not do that, man.

[00:35:36] And so she brought up a lot of like very heavy things that I felt like I would understand

[00:35:42] if she like, didn't trust me as like a whatever.

[00:35:44] And so I don't know how true it is.

[00:35:46] I don't know how much investigating I want to do, but like that to me was like a good

[00:35:51] answer.

[00:35:51] And I felt like we made up where I said, you know, I'm sorry if like, whatever, I'm sorry.

[00:35:57] Like you said it was okay.

[00:35:58] Or like, I straight up said I wouldn't flirt with her flirt with you.

[00:36:01] And then you said, no, it's okay.

[00:36:02] So that's what I was doing.

[00:36:03] I thought I was operating within what you set forth.

[00:36:06] And then we had like a mutual understanding at that point.

[00:36:09] But yeah, that I felt like that conversation, if it's her, whether it's truth or not,

[00:36:14] I felt like it, she's pretty sick for like being able to like sick, nasty, a good, like,

[00:36:18] you know, um, like that's awesome.

[00:36:21] Uh, I mean, yeah, that was, that was when, cause cause for a while it was like, what is

[00:36:24] she doing?

[00:36:25] Like this is so unnecessary and it's only going to hurt her game.

[00:36:28] It's a, it's at this point that we're like, oh, she's, she's got them.

[00:36:32] She's like, she's good enough to like, uh, keep this on board regardless of whether or

[00:36:38] not she gets caught.

[00:36:38] Um, so, um, but also I think we, we missed a lot of that conversation.

[00:36:44] Um, and like, uh, in terms of like context for some of that stuff, um, I think from what

[00:36:50] we were able to see, um, like the, one of the bigger things that was like you being caught

[00:36:56] the, the, uh, staying in the, the pedal room, I think came from Rubino after she found out

[00:37:02] that you were lying about the power thing.

[00:37:04] Um, there was just like a, I think it was her that threw out that theory in the moment

[00:37:08] when she was feeling hurt and then like dropped it.

[00:37:11] Uh, like it was never a real thing that lasted.

[00:37:13] I don't think.

[00:37:15] Um, and then there was the, the biggest thing that we saw, I think was the, you telling her

[00:37:21] about Cedric's, uh, get the bag comment, um, that she then talks to Cam about and Cam

[00:37:28] was like, no, no, that's not, uh, like cause then, cause that in Cedric found out about

[00:37:33] that.

[00:37:33] And that was part of why he was like, Oh, Quinn's been dogging me.

[00:37:36] Um, yeah.

[00:37:37] You heard about that, huh?

[00:37:39] That's true though.

[00:37:40] He straight up said that that was crazy.

[00:37:42] Um, yeah.

[00:37:44] And then I also thought that me moving out of the pedal room as a result of hearing that

[00:37:49] that was like true in my intentions, but I saw strategic, like fruits of that, of like,

[00:37:54] look, dude, that's not my MO.

[00:37:57] That's not what I'm trying to do in this game.

[00:37:59] I'm going to remove myself from the separation to show you like, that's not what I'm trying

[00:38:03] to do.

[00:38:03] And I mean, at the very least Brooklyn felt bad for me, you know, but that's crazy.

[00:38:09] I didn't know that Rubina was the one who shared the spying.

[00:38:12] I don't want to lock that in.

[00:38:14] I, it's, it, my memory of it is that it was Rubina that was talking about it, but it was

[00:38:19] also like, again, like, um, it's not something that like, it certainly could have come from

[00:38:24] somebody else.

[00:38:24] And then she was just the first to repeat it on the feeds.

[00:38:26] Uh, or I could be remembering it wrong.

[00:38:28] Um, but I think I remember it spawning from the post call out when she was upset.

[00:38:33] Um, because there was just that moment of like, Oh my God, is everything he's doing

[00:38:38] calculated?

[00:38:38] Like, uh, like he's been lying to us the whole time.

[00:38:42] And then, like I said, like the next day she was chilling, it was like off of that whole

[00:38:45] train of thought.

[00:38:46] But, uh, but I think that was a line that, that stuck in Leah's mind at least.

[00:38:51] Um, cause she was all, she had also been feeling that way for a few days prior to that whole

[00:38:55] situation.

[00:38:56] Um, so, uh, okay.

[00:39:00] Tucker wins the HOH.

[00:39:02] We already talked about the wall.

[00:39:03] Wait, some very important context.

[00:39:06] This is earth shattering game.

[00:39:08] Um, before the wall, I want.

[00:39:11] To drop the kids off at the pool.

[00:39:13] I'm going to try to go poop.

[00:39:15] Um, I opened the door.

[00:39:18] Angela leaves.

[00:39:19] I opened that bathroom door.

[00:39:21] It is the worst smell I've ever smelled in my life.

[00:39:26] It was blinding.

[00:39:27] Taryn, it felt like someone pepper sprayed me.

[00:39:30] And I was like, Oh my God.

[00:39:32] I like walked in.

[00:39:32] I said, I'm good.

[00:39:33] And left.

[00:39:33] And Angela's like, I'm sorry.

[00:39:36] I'm sorry.

[00:39:36] It smelled so bad.

[00:39:39] Like that to me is one of the funniest things that's ever happened.

[00:39:42] Like we're about to go to war on what we believe is to be the wall.

[00:39:45] And I am just instantly punched in the stomach with a scent that can't be described.

[00:39:49] It was like if like skunk spray and gasoline got married and had a kid.

[00:39:54] It was aggressive.

[00:39:56] Anyway, yes.

[00:39:57] Continue.

[00:39:57] It was an underrated strategy, you know?

[00:40:00] Yeah.

[00:40:01] If you want to get a leg up on, uh, your competition.

[00:40:05] Um, okay.

[00:40:07] Tucker wins the wall.

[00:40:10] Um, and, uh, he's obviously like thinking about targeting you.

[00:40:15] Um, but, uh, but the Brooklyn stuff is also coming up and he was always suspicious.

[00:40:21] He was also very suspicious of Brooklyn in five points because, um, uh, T core and chemo

[00:40:27] and Rubino were all vouching for Brooklyn as well.

[00:40:30] And he was like, why are you all vouching for Brooklyn so much?

[00:40:32] I don't think we can trust Brooklyn.

[00:40:33] Um, and so when T core and chemo found out that Brooklyn was trying to say they lied to

[00:40:38] her about the vote and blame it all on them and they were pissed.

[00:40:41] He was like, yes, exactly.

[00:40:42] This is what I've been saying about Brooklyn.

[00:40:44] Um, so Brooklyn very quickly becomes, uh, you know, a top target here.

[00:40:49] Um, and it, and it gets out like it just, all of a sudden Chelsea and Brooklyn who had

[00:40:54] been running this game, um, in the best position at the very least are now in the hot seat and

[00:41:00] you are kind of out of it.

[00:41:02] Um, and this is the only other week that Chelsea is not the top rated player in the game.

[00:41:07] Uh, it's her lowest rated week, uh, of the season as she ends up on the block, uh, by the

[00:41:12] end of the week.

[00:41:13] Um, and, uh, and so, um, you know, just like the entire house seems to flip.

[00:41:21] Tucker is now in charge.

[00:41:23] Uh, he has already been told about the collective by Joseph.

[00:41:27] Um, chemo now tell because they've chemo and Tico have been like, when do we tell him?

[00:41:31] When do we tell him?

[00:41:31] They've chemo finally tells Tucker about the collective.

[00:41:34] Um, and, uh, and this is where, uh, uh, Tucker is very much like, okay, we should really go

[00:41:39] in this direction as we've already talked about.

[00:41:41] Um, uh, Joseph is talking you down.

[00:41:46] Um, let's see.

[00:41:47] There's a conversation here.

[00:41:49] Joseph talks to Tucker.

[00:41:51] Um, Joseph says you had already told him about, uh, the Pentagon thing and how there was a core.

[00:41:57] Uh, so it's not like you're like super in deep with them.

[00:42:00] You're so bad at this game.

[00:42:01] Uh, and, um, he says that he wants, and Tucker says he wants to like, Joseph is really pointing

[00:42:08] him in the direction of like, those are the real threats.

[00:42:11] There's still a core left in the game.

[00:42:13] Um, and, uh, and right away he's like, okay, Cam, Brooklyn, Quinn, probably on the block.

[00:42:19] Um, and he's like, I knew Brooklyn was a snake, but chemo, Tico, and Rubino wouldn't believe

[00:42:23] it until now.

[00:42:24] Uh, and we're on the same page.

[00:42:26] And so, uh, like everything's kind of like working out from that point.

[00:42:31] Which I want to use this moment.

[00:42:33] I understand that Joseph didn't receive the greatest edit.

[00:42:37] And I understand that like people like to say he's delusional.

[00:42:40] Um, that, that guy can cook.

[00:42:44] All right.

[00:42:44] Like he is a fantastic player.

[00:42:46] And so it kind of broke my heart to see his reception is kind of like people.

[00:42:50] He played a very complex game.

[00:42:52] That's hard to understand.

[00:42:53] I'm very abstract, but my dog can eat.

[00:42:57] He's got a great logic for the game.

[00:42:58] And so I appreciate him.

[00:43:00] Um, this is Joseph's fine, finest week on the stock watch.

[00:43:03] He gets a six.

[00:43:04] Yeah, my man.

[00:43:06] Um, this is also the week where I become aware how close he is with Tucker.

[00:43:11] Um, I said this in the DR.

[00:43:13] I don't know if it was used.

[00:43:14] I thought I was eating when Tucker calls out, um, Brooklyn and Chelsea for clearly having a

[00:43:22] final two, my observation or like my takeaway of that is the only eyes who have made this

[00:43:28] observation are Joseph's and the only, and like, uh, so to me, these are not Tucker's

[00:43:35] words.

[00:43:35] These are Joseph's just being regurgitated.

[00:43:38] Same with, um, so I knew how close he was beforehand.

[00:43:43] Um, credit to Brooklyn.

[00:43:45] She gets me yapping.

[00:43:46] And that's when I almost ruined my game.

[00:43:48] Uh, talking about like where I'm like, well, he's saying that you're the target because we

[00:43:53] were having a like poop on, uh, Tucker parade.

[00:43:57] And, you know, we're saying, Hey, if, if these competitions don't exist with the I arena,

[00:44:01] he's not even here.

[00:44:03] Like we're here to play a real social strategy game.

[00:44:05] We're very upper on butts here.

[00:44:07] Um, but to me, it was a bonding moment that was, uh, potentially use utilized as a weapon

[00:44:14] where Brooklyn sells out our final two.

[00:44:17] But the main takeaway is she then confronts Tucker about the, uh, about, you know, who is

[00:44:26] the target, whatever I told Joseph about us forming the final two Brooklyn and I, um,

[00:44:35] simply because I was like, if anyone can get me out of here, it's Joseph.

[00:44:38] And then I'm curious, was it Joseph?

[00:44:42] I takes credit.

[00:44:43] He did tell Tucker, is that correct?

[00:44:45] Or did Brooklyn also sell me out?

[00:44:47] Oh, Brooklyn also sold you out.

[00:44:49] Yeah.

[00:44:52] Dang.

[00:44:53] Oh man.

[00:44:54] Um, but Joseph helped like navigate.

[00:44:56] Yeah.

[00:44:56] I think it was a good thing to navigate the situation for sure.

[00:44:58] Um, I mean, so, okay.

[00:45:00] Uh, uh, to my memory, um, cause basically the, the sequence of events here is that Tucker

[00:45:07] wants to secretly save you with the veto.

[00:45:11] Um, and, but he wants to test you first, uh, by telling you the plan.

[00:45:17] Don't tell anyone the plan.

[00:45:18] Um, you end up telling Brooklyn the plan.

[00:45:21] Um, and, uh, and Brooklyn then like very quickly goes and sells you out, uh, to, to Tucker.

[00:45:28] Um, and now I don't think Brooklyn rats out like the final two exactly, but like Tucker

[00:45:37] is able to sort of infer, um, and sort of like get the sense, uh, either infer or get told

[00:45:43] straight from Joseph.

[00:45:44] Like, yeah, they have a final two.

[00:45:46] That's why he told her.

[00:45:47] Um, and so there was an exaggeration in terms of how badly she sold you out, but she did

[00:45:53] sell you out.

[00:45:54] And to me, that was another moment where it's like, it doesn't really matter what I believe.

[00:45:59] It's beneficial for me to just trust it and then be like, wow, I can't believe she did

[00:46:04] that kind of thing.

[00:46:05] And then I had a moment with her while she was actually in the shower and everyone was

[00:46:08] upstairs.

[00:46:09] I was like making ice cream for myself.

[00:46:11] I went and talked to her and just told her what I thought about her as a person, as a

[00:46:14] means of like, if she does win this AI arena, I now get the benefit of I'm not on the block.

[00:46:22] People think that I'm disappointed by the way that she stabbed me in the back, but also

[00:46:26] she wins HOH.

[00:46:28] There is this idea of me rooting for her.

[00:46:31] Um, what's it called?

[00:46:34] I also thought that by telling her about the plan, um, I recognize that I was the bottom

[00:46:40] of the Pentagon.

[00:46:41] And so if I do find myself on the block come eviction night, I'm not going to have those

[00:46:48] Pentagon votes and I'm probably not going to have McKenzie and I'm probably not going

[00:46:52] to have like Leah at this point.

[00:46:54] Um, so me telling Brooklyn about this was in hopes of like, number one, it was just an

[00:47:01] emotional moment.

[00:47:02] Her and I had a really good conversation, but then also my head is like, if I tell her

[00:47:07] about this, she has a heads up.

[00:47:08] One of us wins veto.

[00:47:10] And then the other ones, the AI arena.

[00:47:12] Now we are like this for sure.

[00:47:14] Like our final two becomes that much more dangerous, which we were already flirting

[00:47:18] with the idea of a final two when the Pentagon was born.

[00:47:22] So if one of us is also going to go home, I want to slap a name on this sucker and I can

[00:47:26] at least sleep a bit, go to bed at night knowing that, um, that was kind of what went into it.

[00:47:31] But I will say that this was my like worst strategic moment.

[00:47:35] Me sharing that information with Brooklyn.

[00:47:37] She got me yapping.

[00:47:37] She's, she's sick, nasty.

[00:47:39] Yeah.

[00:47:40] So, so I thought this was interesting too about the Pentagon because you were right

[00:47:44] that you were on the bottom of the Pentagon initially, but, uh, things did actually start

[00:47:50] to shift.

[00:47:50] You have this conversation with Brooklyn about like, Hey, we were the last you brought

[00:47:53] in, obviously we're at the bottom.

[00:47:54] And she's like, yes, I agree.

[00:47:56] But then you don't really have too many follow-up conversations about that, at least in the short

[00:48:00] term.

[00:48:00] Um, and in the meantime, Chelsea's getting really upset with Cam.

[00:48:05] Um, and she thinks that Cam is splitting off with Leah.

[00:48:09] Um, and she knows that Cam is kind of close to Cedric.

[00:48:13] And so she doesn't feel comfortable talking to Cedric about it.

[00:48:15] And so it's Brooklyn that she ends up talking to about it.

[00:48:18] Like, Hey, I don't know if we can trust Cam anymore.

[00:48:21] And Brooklyn is like, yeah, I agree.

[00:48:25] Uh, and so they start to become the core of this.

[00:48:28] Uh, and I, I do think that if maybe you'd been spending a little more time with them,

[00:48:33] like you probably would have been brought in on that core.

[00:48:35] Um, with Cedric and Cam on the outside potentially.

[00:48:39] Uh, and who knows how much that lasts?

[00:48:41] Obviously Chelsea and Cam have like, uh, quite the storied relationship throughout the season.

[00:48:47] Um, but that's what got Brooklyn and Chelsea so close.

[00:48:52] Um, and so Brooklyn was able to weasel her way into like the core of that alliance to some

[00:48:56] degree.

[00:48:57] Um, and, uh, and they still felt really good about you because, uh, Brooklyn was like, yeah,

[00:49:04] Quinn feels the same way as us.

[00:49:06] Like he's with us in this, in this Pentagon, um, alliance.

[00:49:11] And, uh, and so they feel really good about you basically all the way up until Brooklyn realizes,

[00:49:16] oh shit, it's me or Quinn or it's me and Chelsea or Quinn.

[00:49:20] And when you get saved and Chelsea goes up, they're like, he snaked us, uh, because they're

[00:49:25] told that you snaked them.

[00:49:26] And that's when they're really like, why is this not Quinn?

[00:49:28] Like he's the one that screwed this all up.

[00:49:31] Legend.

[00:49:32] Um, yeah.

[00:49:33] Also with the Cam and Leah thing in our Pentagon meetings, like all two of them, they were always

[00:49:39] like, yeah, Cam's going to be able to control Leah.

[00:49:42] And that's why we'll keep her in my head.

[00:49:43] And I was like, no shot Leah is ever going to do what Cam tells her to do.

[00:49:48] Like, even if they're in a showmance, that is a strong minded person who does not care.

[00:49:53] And so I was like, I'll like fan the flames of like, yeah, Cam controller, no chance in

[00:49:59] my mind that he would ever be able to do that.

[00:50:02] It's so interesting to know that, man, I blew it.

[00:50:06] Cause I really wanted to work with Chelsea.

[00:50:07] I really want to work with Brooklyn.

[00:50:08] I think that I just struggled with like deciding who I wanted to really work with.

[00:50:12] I thought that the visionaries was my way out.

[00:50:15] I thought it was this big move and then it ended up being a flop, unfortunately, but that's,

[00:50:20] that's really cool context that Cam and Chelsea, they were splitting for a second there.

[00:50:25] Dang it.

[00:50:25] It's going to capitalize.

[00:50:27] Um, okay.

[00:50:28] So, uh, so yeah, so he ends up saving you even though you, you know, did the thing.

[00:50:36] And then, and there's also like the whole veto shenanigans where he thinks that you are

[00:50:40] the one that messed with his stuff until people like Tucker, it wasn't Quinn.

[00:50:43] And then he's like, I knew it wasn't Quinn.

[00:50:45] I was just testing him.

[00:50:48] Um, which is that hide and go veto.

[00:50:52] I watched the episode last night because that was the most fun I had in the DR.

[00:50:56] Like it was two in the morning.

[00:50:58] I'm screaming.

[00:51:00] Like I'm narrating everything.

[00:51:02] It was the most fun.

[00:51:04] Um, in round three of this, like going, I noticed that in round at the end of round

[00:51:11] two, that my memory card had been found.

[00:51:14] It is super hot outside.

[00:51:16] I'm from Oklahoma.

[00:51:17] So like the weather does not bother me.

[00:51:18] People like chemo's wearing an ice pack as a headband.

[00:51:22] People are getting hydrated and I'm like rejecting the water.

[00:51:25] I was like, I'm good.

[00:51:26] I don't need this.

[00:51:27] So I discover my card has been found.

[00:51:30] My chances of winning are kaput.

[00:51:32] I'm not too invested.

[00:51:34] Let me try to create a funny TV moment.

[00:51:36] So for the first minute of round three, I'm in the bathroom brushing my teeth.

[00:51:42] Like I sprinted into the bathroom as if I was like searching, whatever, whatever I stop.

[00:51:47] And I just start brushing my teeth very slowly.

[00:51:49] Methodically.

[00:51:50] Um, I like gurgle water, spit it out, rinse my toothbrush.

[00:51:53] And then I go back into it.

[00:51:55] I was so disappointed that that was not included in the episode.

[00:51:58] So I wanted to give you the exclusive.

[00:51:59] I've tweeted about this, but this is the exclusive.

[00:52:02] Uh, behind the scenes.

[00:52:04] There you go.

[00:52:08] It does work out.

[00:52:09] Tucker wins the veto.

[00:52:12] He uses on you.

[00:52:13] He puts up Chelsea.

[00:52:16] Um, and, uh, here it is like Brooklyn and Chelsea who had been in the top spots now, both in danger.

[00:52:23] Uh, now Chelsea never actually going to leave here, uh, because T-Core was making sure that the votes, cause this was, this was a very like contentious thing.

[00:52:35] Um, but once again, it was T-Core and Kimo with an ally in power for like the second week in a row.

[00:52:42] Uh, he nominates Chelsea when he's, they're like trying to get him not to, but they barely will have a conversation with him about it.

[00:52:49] Um, and, uh, they keep going like, we need to talk to Tucker.

[00:52:52] We need to talk to Tucker.

[00:52:53] Uh, and then they'll have a conversation talking to Tucker.

[00:52:55] We really don't want Chelsea to go on the block.

[00:52:58] Um, and, uh, he'll, he'll be like, no, no, Chelsea needs to go on the block and be like, okay, yeah, that's fine.

[00:53:02] And then after he leaves, they're like, we really should have said more, uh, next time we'll say more.

[00:53:06] And then it would be like over and over.

[00:53:07] And then she goes on the block and say like, we're not going to vote out Chelsea.

[00:53:10] We're going to vote Cam over Chelsea.

[00:53:11] He's like, no, it has to be Chelsea.

[00:53:12] If, if Brooklyn's, uh, wins the thing.

[00:53:14] Um, and it's, it just keeps, it keeps going and going and going.

[00:53:18] Uh, but they eventually they do land on it.

[00:53:20] It will be Cam over Chelsea and Tucker's pissed about it.

[00:53:23] Um, and he tells Cam that they were going to do that.

[00:53:26] Uh, and, um, and so all of that's happening.

[00:53:29] What the other thing that's happening is that they form another alliance.

[00:53:32] This one with Joseph.

[00:53:34] Um, they also make the frenzy alliance.

[00:53:36] They make the one with Joseph.

[00:53:38] I think they called the fish tank briefly.

[00:53:41] Oh, the tanks.

[00:53:42] Yeah.

[00:53:42] The tanks.

[00:53:42] That's what it was.

[00:53:43] Uh, and then, uh, then I believe this is in the episode, uh, that Angela walks up on them.

[00:53:49] But if it gets on us, there's a watch for a couple more times.

[00:53:52] Please be part of this.

[00:53:53] Please.

[00:53:53] Oh.

[00:53:54] Yeah.

[00:53:57] Please.

[00:53:58] I don't, I can get on the bottom.

[00:54:06] I can get on the bottom.

[00:54:12] That's crazy.

[00:54:14] That's.

[00:54:15] They're all looking at her.

[00:54:16] Like they, they edited this in a way that I felt made it less awkward because they'd show

[00:54:21] just like a big pause and the, but it was actually so much more awkward than it showed

[00:54:26] it.

[00:54:27] Also in the spirit of throwing stones, um, frenzy, terrible name for an alliance.

[00:54:34] I like the tanks.

[00:54:35] The tanks is actually kind of sick.

[00:54:37] Um, frenzy is crazy.

[00:54:39] Um, when I, when they told me about this, that to me solidified Angela as like, maybe

[00:54:47] like one of the most unintentionally funny people on the planet.

[00:54:50] That's iconic to beg to join guys, please let me be a part of this is that's awesome.

[00:55:01] Thank you for sharing that with me.

[00:55:02] That is amazing.

[00:55:03] It's amazing.

[00:55:04] And at this point we were like, wow, like, cause Tucker and Angela had been having conversations.

[00:55:09] Uh, he, he is the one that like advocates and pulls her in.

[00:55:13] And she says this,

[00:55:13] I want to know where Tucker is at all times.

[00:55:16] My eyes are on that kid.

[00:55:18] Uh, and so it's like, here we go.

[00:55:20] Like it's Tucker and Angela.

[00:55:22] Um, and we should have known that it would not last.

[00:55:26] Um, which is interesting that like, she did end up flipping on him because week one, she's

[00:55:34] trying to relate with the have nots.

[00:55:36] She's like, you know, we've all been up here, not getting any sleep.

[00:55:40] She has the most comfortable bed in the house, by the way.

[00:55:41] Um, and she's like, well, we have each other.

[00:55:44] And she's like begging us in a more dramatic fashion.

[00:55:47] I feel like that is way more awkward, but she was like crying.

[00:55:50] And she's like, please like, just get me to jury.

[00:55:53] And I'm like, girl, it's week one.

[00:55:55] You're crazy.

[00:55:56] If you think like you're drunk, if you think that we can pull this off.

[00:56:00] And then she found her way, but yeah, it's, she has the audacity.

[00:56:06] I will say to just ask.

[00:56:07] And I think that that takes real courage and should be like somewhat applauded, honestly.

[00:56:11] And they genuinely make an alliance that includes Angela.

[00:56:16] Oh yeah.

[00:56:17] It's called the, uh, what is it?

[00:56:22] It's not the tanks after the tanks is what?

[00:56:25] Um, uh, sixth Avenue.

[00:56:27] Yeah.

[00:56:28] That's what they eventually call it.

[00:56:29] Yeah.

[00:56:31] Um, and it's at this point, like Joseph, uh, in the meantime has also been bonding with

[00:56:36] Leah.

[00:56:36] Um, his relationship has been building, uh, good, good portion of it has been trash

[00:56:43] talking Rubina and, and you, um, and, uh, and so he's even like, maybe we can use Leah

[00:56:52] as a number at this point.

[00:56:54] Uh, and Tucker's down for that because Tucker has also been bonding with Leah lately over

[00:56:59] you.

[00:57:00] Um, and, uh, and so this is starting to feel like the new power group, uh, in the house.

[00:57:08] Um, and in the meantime, they're working on keeping you safe.

[00:57:12] Um, and, um, uh, let me see.

[00:57:16] It's, uh, it's around this time that T core is kind of like, we're not really working with

[00:57:22] Tucker though.

[00:57:23] Are we like, like we're not going to like long-term work with Doug.

[00:57:28] Like we're not going to go to the end with Tucker and Angela.

[00:57:30] Like I'd rather go to the end with like Quinn and, uh, and Rubina and like, uh, Chelsea.

[00:57:36] Um, and, uh, and chemo is kind of like, yeah, yeah, no, you're right.

[00:57:41] But we were like, is chemo going to flip on Tucker?

[00:57:44] I don't think so.

[00:57:45] Um, so we were going back and forth about that.

[00:57:47] And T core is really starting to rant and rave about Tucker because it was the same

[00:57:51] situation.

[00:57:52] It was a similar situation.

[00:57:53] He was putting up Chelsea and she was really annoyed about it.

[00:57:55] And she was like, this guy can't even say my name, right?

[00:57:57] Uh, like, uh, she was getting very frustrated.

[00:58:01] So, uh, by the end of the week, we already kind of went through that.

[00:58:05] Um, the vote flips, but it doesn't have to like actually flip this time because Chelsea

[00:58:09] wins the AI arena and Brooklyn goes home.

[00:58:13] T core wins the next day to wage and, uh, I'm ready to crow slay.

[00:58:18] And

[00:58:32] Robina crying for like hours was the, I was like, it's a social strategy.

[00:58:38] At least pretend like, you know, that was so crazy where she's, I'm like, get a grip.

[00:58:46] Come on.

[00:58:47] Like, what are we doing?

[00:58:49] Also some context.

[00:58:51] This is, you know, jury house.

[00:58:53] T core said that like her and chemo wanted Brooklyn to stay that week.

[00:58:59] And I'm like, over cam.

[00:59:03] Yeah.

[00:59:05] I think that that's jury house hindsight.

[00:59:08] I don't.

[00:59:09] I think it was discussed actually.

[00:59:11] I think, I think there was a discussion about it, but like, I think that they were, uh,

[00:59:16] I think that they had basically been like, we will fight for Chelsea, but we're not going

[00:59:22] to die on the Hill for, for Brooklyn.

[00:59:24] But I do think they actually did, did think about it and talk about it.

[00:59:27] But like, the thing is that they talked about a lot of things.

[00:59:32] I wish that I would have been approached about keeping Brooklyn.

[00:59:35] I would have for sure done that.

[00:59:37] Uh, absolutely.

[00:59:38] Um, but they let, again, like let's cook, you know, we're going to scheme.

[00:59:44] Let's like, let's do it.

[00:59:45] Um, yeah.

[00:59:47] T core wins HOH and I'm feeling pretty solid.

[00:59:51] Joseph is super worried about me.

[00:59:54] And he's like, you know, you're going like your name's being brought up, whatever.

[00:59:58] And in my head, I was always just like, I have the visionaries.

[01:00:01] It'll be fine.

[01:00:02] I know that I am no longer like a priority for them.

[01:00:05] Um, especially like one night I went to stay up late with T core and Rubina and chemo.

[01:00:14] Cause I'm like, okay, everyone else is doing this.

[01:00:17] Like I need to start investing my time with them for sure.

[01:00:21] I go up there and T core is like, okay, well, good night.

[01:00:26] I leave.

[01:00:27] And then they all stay up there.

[01:00:29] And then it's two in the morning.

[01:00:30] I leave for a bathroom break and I can hear them laughing upstairs.

[01:00:33] And I'm like, I did surround myself with sentimental, emotional players.

[01:00:39] They just don't feel sentimental towards me.

[01:00:42] Idiot, dude.

[01:00:43] Oh my gosh.

[01:00:45] Oh man.

[01:00:46] Well, uh, T core as the HOH, another very controversial HOH because a lot of people feel like dumbest HOH ever.

[01:00:57] I can't believe she took out her own ally.

[01:01:00] I kind of operated the whole week feeling like T core.

[01:01:05] It's okay.

[01:01:06] You can, you can tell me that you're okay with Tucker accidentally leaving.

[01:01:10] Like you can, you can, you can tell me, you don't have to tell them you can tell me, but she never really did.

[01:01:15] She, she lets it slip at a couple of points, uh, toward the end, towards the end of the week where she was like, I remember her making a couple of comments that indicated like, it wasn't like the worst result in the world.

[01:01:25] Um, but she, but she kept pretty tight lipped about it in general.

[01:01:29] Um, so a lot of people feel like, you know, this was like a terrible mistake.

[01:01:33] Uh, but regardless, similar to you and Cedric, I felt like her accidentally losing Tucker here was actually pretty good for her game.

[01:01:43] Uh, it's just that things did not turn out, uh, super well following that on, uh, uh, you know, moving forward.

[01:01:51] Um, so, uh, because like, just, especially because like the way that the end game competitions play out, if Tucker just continues to win out from there, it's just like, well, you're just handing him the win.

[01:02:01] Um, and it was around that point that Jag had won out.

[01:02:04] Uh, so it was like, if you don't take this shot, like, are you even going to get another chance?

[01:02:09] Um, so, uh, I didn't feel like it was the worst move in the world, but, uh, but, uh, I'm sure, you know, most of the story, but basically Tucker volunteers, um, and then immediately regrets it.

[01:02:22] And, and, and because Kimo and Rubino are like, Tucker, what are you doing?

[01:02:25] Don't volunteer.

[01:02:26] Uh, we don't want you on the block.

[01:02:28] And then he's like, oh yeah, maybe I don't want to be on the block, but like, I felt like I had to, it was like the polite thing to do.

[01:02:33] Uh, and T-Core takes the opportunity.

[01:02:36] Cause why wouldn't you?

[01:02:37] Because either it's a spot on the block that I don't have to fill or he leaves and well.

[01:02:43] Absolutely.

[01:02:44] And so then that just leaves, like, even with the existence of, um, like sixth Avenue,

[01:02:51] I still feel like Angela going home that week is probably fine for T-Core as well.

[01:02:57] And then MJ, like that's fine for her too.

[01:03:00] So like, I felt like this was a perfect week for T-Core because everyone loved her in the house.

[01:03:07] Like, you know, people are literally crying for hours on end that she just won.

[01:03:11] And so when I heard that Tucker volunteered for the block, I was like, yeah, this guy sucks at the game.

[01:03:18] As if like, I'm not bad too.

[01:03:20] But I was like, this guy blows.

[01:03:22] That's crazy.

[01:03:24] Um, yeah, this week I felt like was the real chef it up moment for me where Leah and I's like relationship.

[01:03:32] We're friends again, you know, as far as I know, maybe not.

[01:03:36] Um, we're, we're cooking and the veto is, is used.

[01:03:43] Cam's off the block, my dog.

[01:03:46] Um, and it really feels like, you know, go or like as he wins the veto, it's like, okay, he's going to definitely use it on himself because he's a smart person.

[01:03:55] Um, now it's either Angela or Leah going on the block.

[01:04:02] I heard Leah advocated for me fat to go on the block.

[01:04:05] Hilarious.

[01:04:07] Um.

[01:04:36] Um.

[01:04:37] Joseph was going to her being like, don't worry, I've got you.

[01:04:41] Uh, and you were going up being like, uh, like, Hey, this is how we're going to.

[01:04:46] That's awesome.

[01:04:46] Especially my, my intention.

[01:04:48] I, I did not want to say I, it was like always we, um, because I knew that Leah did not like it when people act like they're doing a favor for her.

[01:04:57] So I'm like, okay, we're going to social engineer this.

[01:05:00] Sorry.

[01:05:00] That was the thing is that Cam had done it previously when Cedric or Chelsea was HOH and she was very annoyed by it.

[01:05:06] Yeah.

[01:05:07] Um, and so even though I feel like I've put the team on my back, um, Joseph is telling us in the pedal room, he's like, yeah, I'm like, uh, I'm doing all this work.

[01:05:18] Keep you off the block.

[01:05:19] Quinn, I'm doing everything in my power to keep you out the block.

[01:05:22] Leah, don't mess this up for me while I'm in the matrix.

[01:05:25] And as he's talking, it's like the peanuts thing where it's like, I'm like, yo, whatever, dude.

[01:05:31] Second you get locked in that room.

[01:05:33] I'm, I'm doing everything in my power to make sure Angela gets put on the block.

[01:05:38] Um, I don't know.

[01:05:40] Do you know about Joseph's funeral?

[01:05:44] Uh, I mean, there's a lot of things I know about Joseph's.

[01:05:47] His spiz tent experience.

[01:05:50] Um, so he's in the matrix and I think that it would be a fun thing if we went to his bed in the pedal room and mourned the loss of our sweet Joseph.

[01:06:03] Um, and so we're all going to say words that we feel about him.

[01:06:07] So we go into the pedal room and before we start, Angela goes, wait, can we do this?

[01:06:15] And we're like, what?

[01:06:16] And she's like, points at Leah and says, I know that you trust her.

[01:06:21] And I'm like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

[01:06:24] And, um, she's like pretty much throwing Tucker under the bus at this point.

[01:06:30] And we are all stunned, frozen with fear.

[01:06:34] And it's like, in my head, I said, if Tucker hears about this, I'm so screwed.

[01:06:40] He will find a way to blame me.

[01:06:42] Like literally the week before his jewelry bag went missing and he's like blaming me for it.

[01:06:49] I like went through my stuff because I was like, someone planted this here.

[01:06:53] It ended up being in his luggage.

[01:06:54] Like the guy hates my guts at this point.

[01:06:57] Ever since he used the veto on me, he resents me.

[01:07:00] Like he, he feels like he, from my perspective, it feels like he knows that he messed up keeping me in the game and whatever.

[01:07:09] So I'm like, she's going to sell me out.

[01:07:11] Holy shit.

[01:07:12] We're fucked.

[01:07:14] Um, we're screwed.

[01:07:17] Then I talked to T-Core and she's like, Mackenzie just told me something crazy.

[01:07:22] I said, yes, I wanted to tell you about this.

[01:07:25] I paint the picture of what happened.

[01:07:27] Oh, let me finish the funeral.

[01:07:29] So that happens.

[01:07:31] We're like, okay, yup, we're in this together.

[01:07:33] Absolutely.

[01:07:33] Let's do this.

[01:07:35] We go to the funeral and I'm like saying how much I miss his like glorious mustache.

[01:07:40] And he was so handsome and I love hanging out with him.

[01:07:43] And he was my fellow short king.

[01:07:45] Leah's talking about him.

[01:07:47] Mackenzie's talking about him.

[01:07:48] Angela's talking about him.

[01:07:49] We go upstairs to like mourn the loss outside of the have not door.

[01:07:55] It's unlocked.

[01:07:57] And so he goes, oh my God.

[01:08:00] And then surely the second door is locked at this point.

[01:08:03] And so MJ and Leah are like, ah, I feel like I can hear him.

[01:08:08] I can feel his presence.

[01:08:09] Something is calling me to open the door.

[01:08:11] They crack the door and it actually opened.

[01:08:13] And we all start screaming out of fear because we didn't expect it.

[01:08:17] Oh my God, we're going to get in trouble.

[01:08:19] And so we all run away.

[01:08:20] And they're like on the mic, like, hey guys, cut it out.

[01:08:24] Essentially.

[01:08:27] Imagine what might have happened.

[01:08:29] The things you might have seen.

[01:08:31] Yeah.

[01:08:32] He's made spizz just like freaking out.

[01:08:36] Now, and so yeah, this, now that I have this information, I've just gotten consent from T-Corps.

[01:08:42] I'm like, can I go tell Tucker about this?

[01:08:44] Mm-hmm.

[01:08:45] Um, leading up to this, by the way, I have zero faith that we have the votes to keep Tucker.

[01:08:53] Because in my eyes, Leah and MJ, it's too beneficial for him to stick around.

[01:08:58] Even though like Tucker doesn't like Leah, he's not targeting her.

[01:09:04] So like, as far as I know, you know, I know that he will.

[01:09:08] There's a whole thing with them involving this.

[01:09:12] That's crazy.

[01:09:14] Yeah.

[01:09:17] Crazy.

[01:09:18] Um, and so I know that other than the fact that he, he wants her to go home, but like

[01:09:24] when he had power, he didn't target her.

[01:09:26] So I'm like, I don't think we have the votes to say the least I can do is keep my number

[01:09:33] in Leah.

[01:09:34] My number apparently hates my guts.

[01:09:36] Um, not really, but it's like, I'm selling her out.

[01:09:42] And in my head, I'm like, this is perfect.

[01:09:45] I can't wait to fill Leah in.

[01:09:47] I tell her, I'm like, Hey, you're good, bro.

[01:09:51] Like between the two of us working, you are not going on the block.

[01:09:55] And here's why I told Tucker about Angela doing that.

[01:10:01] Come to find out this pushes Leah in a direction where she's like, Oh my God, he's working

[01:10:05] with Tucker.

[01:10:07] And just of all the things.

[01:10:09] And it was so funny because I was like, yeah, we need to, uh, we need to push Angela out of

[01:10:14] the house.

[01:10:14] Like she's going under the bus.

[01:10:15] And Leah's like, I won't, I'm not going to push people under the bus.

[01:10:18] That's not my game.

[01:10:20] Push with me.

[01:10:21] It's fine.

[01:10:22] Um, but in my head, I'm like, that's fine.

[01:10:25] I'll do it for you.

[01:10:26] I don't care.

[01:10:27] Uh, Angela meet the bottom of the bus sister, kick her out in front of it.

[01:10:32] Um, absolutely.

[01:10:34] I feel like I killed it in this moment, you know?

[01:10:36] Yeah.

[01:10:37] So basically what happens here is that you rat out the thing, the, the Angela thing, um,

[01:10:43] because you, you're like, I'm going to get in trouble for this.

[01:10:45] I know it.

[01:10:45] So I'm getting ahead of it.

[01:10:47] Um, and so you, then you bring it to Tucker and, uh, and initially that's like working.

[01:10:55] Tucker talks to Leah about it.

[01:10:57] Um, and Leah is like incensed.

[01:11:00] She's like, no, I can't believe he would, he would be the one to rat that out.

[01:11:06] He was the one doing all of it.

[01:11:08] Like he, he, he intentionally, he's such a puppet master.

[01:11:13] He's, he made that conversation happen just so he could rat it out.

[01:11:17] Like that is how devious this guy is.

[01:11:21] Um, and Tucker was like, oh my God, you're right.

[01:11:24] Um, and he did fall back on you.

[01:11:28] And he went back to like T-Corps and chemo about it.

[01:11:30] And he was like, oh my God.

[01:11:32] And, and Rubina and he was like, oh my God, I'm, I was talking to Leah.

[01:11:34] And I think that Quinn was actually the one behind this.

[01:11:37] And T-Corps, and they were like, dude, no, he's the one that told us about it.

[01:11:41] They eventually had to get him back around.

[01:11:43] And then I believe to my memory, this is part of why he was then very adamant that Leah should

[01:11:47] go on the block because she was being so devious and trying to throw you under the bus, uh,

[01:11:52] which was so sketchy and she was playing so hard.

[01:11:54] And then he had, I mean, he also had like a whole thing with Angela.

[01:11:57] And so, um, like there was that too, but like there was, it was such a mess of, of situations.

[01:12:02] And Leah was also pitching to T-Corps like for hours.

[01:12:05] Like, this is why Quinn is the most dangerous player in this game.

[01:12:08] You need to take him out.

[01:12:09] And then you went in like right after, like, listen, like I'm willing to put my life on the line.

[01:12:15] Like I want Leah to stay off the block.

[01:12:18] And T-Corps was just like.

[01:12:21] Like, which works for me because people feel bad for me.

[01:12:26] It was crazy.

[01:12:27] Like people were approaching and I didn't like the notion that like she owed me anything.

[01:12:32] Like I never wanted to cash in on that.

[01:12:34] So I was very cognizant to stay away from where I'm like, no, nobody owes anyone anything.

[01:12:38] Do not, do not push that on my behalf.

[01:12:41] Like do not do that.

[01:12:42] But it was crazy how I was working so actively.

[01:12:47] I felt like really leveraging my influence within the house to keep her off the block.

[01:12:53] And then when she does that, I'm like, bro, that just makes you look bad.

[01:12:56] Like, what are you doing?

[01:13:00] It was, it was, it was very back and forth as well.

[01:13:03] Like T-Corps and Kimo were going back and forth.

[01:13:05] Like, should we do Angela?

[01:13:06] Should we do Leah?

[01:13:08] And, and then Tucker was pissed that they went in the Angela direction.

[01:13:12] And, and T-Corps very much cited you as the reason, like I did this to keep Quinn happy,

[01:13:17] to keep Leah off the block.

[01:13:19] Even though she's the one trying to get him on the block.

[01:13:23] Like, and at that point they were like, we really need to tell him, we really need to

[01:13:26] tell him they tried a couple of times, but it was just not landing anymore.

[01:13:29] They were like, he's too far gone.

[01:13:30] Um, and, uh, and so that made her extra pissed the following week when then you won HOH and

[01:13:37] then targeted them.

[01:13:38] She was like, I cannot believe that I did what he wanted.

[01:13:42] And then he repays us this way.

[01:13:44] Um, but yeah.

[01:13:45] And a lot of the people who were, um, like at that point coming up to me and sharing,

[01:13:50] uh, like the Leah concerns at that point, like our conversation outside,

[01:13:56] I felt like fixed the bridge.

[01:13:58] And then to me getting mad at Leah is only doing what they want.

[01:14:03] The alternative is still Angela going on the block.

[01:14:06] Who's like calling me this liar.

[01:14:08] And that like, I'm a piece of garbage, like demented weasel, all this stuff.

[01:14:13] And so I'm like, guys, do you want me to choose between the person who like unsuccessfully

[01:14:17] threw me under the bus or the person who is crazy and has like ruined my game this whole

[01:14:22] season?

[01:14:23] Like, I don't know.

[01:14:25] No.

[01:14:25] And so to me, it was also strategic to not get that upset that week, especially prior

[01:14:30] to the nominees or nominations, because I felt like if I gave, if I showed frustration

[01:14:36] and I'm angry, that gives them the green light to act on my behalf when it's like, what I

[01:14:41] really want is Angela to go up.

[01:14:43] So I like, I remember communicating to Rubina where it's like, well, what's the alternative?

[01:14:47] I add another enemy to the list.

[01:14:49] Like, no, my game has been exposed.

[01:14:51] I need to just accept it.

[01:14:53] And it's like, you know, I obviously have a crush on her.

[01:14:56] So like that's fueling it mostly.

[01:14:58] But like, come on, there's a strategic framework there, you know, like, come on, idiot.

[01:15:04] Yeah.

[01:15:07] Basically what happens here, of course, I don't remember if I mentioned, but the previous

[01:15:12] week when T-Core or this week when T-Core's HOH, Chelsea rises back to the top of the stock

[01:15:21] watch because she's now protected by T-Core during this HOH.

[01:15:26] And basically, regardless of what happens, as long as McKenzie doesn't leave, she is in a

[01:15:32] really solid position moving forward.

[01:15:33] And if Tucker leaves, even better.

[01:15:36] And we didn't even see like her orchestrate the vote flip at that point.

[01:15:40] So she really starts to rise to power.

[01:15:43] Again, everyone, almost everyone else, five or below.

[01:15:45] So my God.

[01:15:47] And at this point, one of the nights that I did get, I stayed up and then they actually included

[01:15:53] me in things.

[01:15:55] We have this like flirtatious talk about forming an alliance, right?

[01:16:00] Like this is also the same week when Tucker and Rubina are kissing and I'm like showing

[01:16:05] it.

[01:16:06] I'm like, you know, taking my hoodie off and shorts and throwing them like all this stuff

[01:16:10] is very intentional.

[01:16:11] Like him being the not instigator was the AI.

[01:16:19] What was it called?

[01:16:20] Instigator.

[01:16:21] No, no, no.

[01:16:22] Previous to what was his punishment?

[01:16:24] He was the AI assist.

[01:16:26] Yeah.

[01:16:26] Yeah.

[01:16:27] I am intentionally every time that I hear he's called upstairs, I'm intentionally going

[01:16:32] up there to try to show him like that.

[01:16:35] I'm a good friend and someone who's going to be there for him.

[01:16:38] I don't know if it works, but like I'm investing in the time at least.

[01:16:43] And so then all of a sudden there's like this idea of I called it the misfits.

[01:16:48] Strangely enough, I got called to the DR in the middle of this conversation.

[01:16:52] So I didn't get to push us.

[01:16:55] Hey, let's form it.

[01:16:56] Like, let's do it.

[01:16:58] But that was when Rubina, Kimo, T-Core, Chelsea, myself.

[01:17:04] And then I think Joseph was in it.

[01:17:08] It was like a very like for some reason I'm remembering Tucker wasn't in it.

[01:17:12] Do you know what I'm referencing?

[01:17:14] When is this exactly?

[01:17:16] This is right before this is veto.

[01:17:20] No, because Tucker's made punishment at this point.

[01:17:23] So it's post veto.

[01:17:25] Mm hmm.

[01:17:27] And yeah, I mean, you were trying to put together.

[01:17:30] No, that was when you were H.O.H.

[01:17:32] Yeah.

[01:17:34] But I used leverage to try to bring me and Chelsea closer.

[01:17:38] That's why I brought it up.

[01:17:38] Other than there was also a push from like at this time, there's a another push to like, I mean, since since week five, like the last two weeks is a big push from T-Core, Kimo, Rubina to like mend fences between you and Tucker.

[01:17:55] And you're both just pretending and you both know you're just pretending.

[01:17:59] Yeah.

[01:17:59] Um, so that is being pushed.

[01:18:03] I'm called to the D.R.

[01:18:04] So I didn't really get to exercise it more like we were literally talking about names of like, you know, whatever.

[01:18:12] And I suggested the misfits because originally the visionary does sound familiar.

[01:18:16] Do you remember what day this was?

[01:18:18] Oh, this is T-Core's H.O.H.

[01:18:23] If Cedric left on day 31, then that's going to be what?

[01:18:28] It's between day 40 and 45.

[01:18:31] 45.

[01:18:32] OK.

[01:18:33] Um, but it's like the morning of day 45.

[01:18:37] There's drama because Quinn is wearing Rubina's skirt.

[01:18:39] Oh, I can give you the T on that, too.

[01:18:41] That's that stuff is crazy.

[01:18:43] Um, and so like we're literally flirting with the idea.

[01:18:47] None of them knew what it meant, like within the context of Big Brother to missed someone.

[01:18:51] So I'm trying to teach them who Dan is.

[01:18:55] Uh, and I'm like just doing the Brittany segment where I'm explaining what misting is.

[01:19:00] And I get called to the D.R.

[01:19:01] So I didn't really get to form that group.

[01:19:04] Unfortunately, maybe I could have pushed it the next day.

[01:19:06] But I'm also interested in sending Tucker home.

[01:19:10] So it is what it is.

[01:19:11] But the reason why I bring that up is before the day 44 party.

[01:19:17] Um, we have a halfway party.

[01:19:22] And beforehand, I asked Chelsea if she wants to talk upstairs.

[01:19:27] This is when we finally decide that we're flipping.

[01:19:30] Um, and my pitch to her is pretty much anytime I've heard her name be referenced, it's making

[01:19:39] it to a jury.

[01:19:41] And then that's it.

[01:19:41] And so I'm acting like I'm upset on her behalf.

[01:19:44] And I said, and I think that's ridiculous.

[01:19:46] I think that you're a really good player who's worked really hard.

[01:19:48] And I think that you deserve to make it further than that.

[01:19:51] When I talk to Kimo and T-Core, like they want me to put you and Cam up.

[01:19:56] Like that's what they want me to do.

[01:19:58] And I'm not interested in that.

[01:20:00] I don't want us to be pinned against each other because at the end of the day, that only

[01:20:03] ruins both of our chances at winning.

[01:20:05] I'm going through whatever.

[01:20:06] And then she interrupts me and just says, we have the votes.

[01:20:10] Super sick moment.

[01:20:11] But, um, so there's like, that is me trying to push things with Chelsea because I recognize

[01:20:19] very quickly that she is like, like I knew since week two that she was the best player

[01:20:23] in the game.

[01:20:24] Originally I was saying it was Cam, but that's when I thought he was playing to win, but

[01:20:27] instead he was playing the last.

[01:20:30] Um, I shift to that of Chelsea's the best player and I need to nestle up to her.

[01:20:35] So that week when we're flipping on Tucker, I am like using language to suggest like, you

[01:20:40] know, I am invested in you being here.

[01:20:42] If I'm not going to win, I want the best player of the season to win, like all this stuff, hoping

[01:20:47] that that buys me some real estate in the future, just because I know how dangerous she

[01:20:51] is as both a competitor and a social threat.

[01:20:55] Um, my conversations with chemo and T core is actually what leads to them being put on

[01:21:03] the block the next week and the like McKenzie versus, uh, who was she on the block with?

[01:21:10] It was McKenzie versus Angela debate.

[01:21:12] And they were pushing McKenzie.

[01:21:14] Yes.

[01:21:14] And which made no sense to me because I'm like, dude, Angela just targeted your boy.

[01:21:21] That doesn't make sense.

[01:21:22] And then that's when T core shares with me the existence of sixth Avenue.

[01:21:28] And so that is why I didn't put T core up the next week is because I felt like she was

[01:21:32] a much more strategic player.

[01:21:34] Um, and so that ruined my relationship with chemo because he was very clearly hiding

[01:21:39] something from me.

[01:21:40] As far as I understand, Tucker is on board with getting rid of Angela.

[01:21:44] So everyone should be on board with getting rid of Angela.

[01:21:47] And instead they're like flirting with the idea of McKenzie.

[01:21:50] And I'm like, dude, McKenzie was going after me.

[01:21:54] Her and I have like gotten a lot closer.

[01:21:57] McKenzie is real.

[01:21:58] Okay.

[01:21:58] We are besties.

[01:21:59] Like it's like starting to form obviously like she's still dangerous, but in my head,

[01:22:03] I'm like, it's a way better option than Angela.

[01:22:06] Um, and theoretically a player like McKenzie, if she sees that I'm advocating for her as publicly

[01:22:13] as I was that to me, as someone who's logical, I'd be like, okay, that's my dog.

[01:22:19] Like we should work together.

[01:22:21] But it was chemo's like keeping of information from me of like the five points Alliance and

[01:22:28] sixth Avenue and the tanks, like whatever.

[01:22:30] It's like, you've kept all this stuff from you, from me.

[01:22:33] I've shared everything, every element of my game.

[01:22:35] You took it as being sketchy versus a reason to trust me.

[01:22:39] You've put me in this like very precarious position.

[01:22:42] And then now as we're on the rebuild, you're not prioritizing that.

[01:22:45] And so the reason why chemo ends up on the block next week is because he's not giving me the

[01:22:51] full story and he's not thinking logically.

[01:22:53] Like the reason why McKenzie needs to go home is because week two, she said that she would

[01:22:58] hypothetically put him on the block since they don't talk game.

[01:23:02] And I'm like that Angela called me out last week.

[01:23:06] So what are we, or like this week, like, what are we talking about?

[01:23:09] That's what pushed me away from chemo is like that conversation was very important.

[01:23:15] And I felt like I was also playing ball with them where I'm like, I'm not even bringing up

[01:23:19] the idea of backdooring Tucker.

[01:23:21] You guys have no idea that I'm sitting on this move.

[01:23:24] Cook with me here.

[01:23:26] Well, you were playing ball because it was day 43 that MJ came up with her theory about

[01:23:34] you being in the ballers alliance.

[01:23:38] The same day that you told her, Hey, I'm working to, I'm working to make sure you have

[01:23:42] the votes to stay.

[01:23:42] She's talking to Tucker about how you have a secret alliance with cam and Chelsea called

[01:23:46] the ball.

[01:23:48] What the, why is this my life?

[01:23:50] You know what I mean?

[01:23:51] Like why, why me?

[01:23:53] Oh my gosh.

[01:23:55] That's crazy.

[01:23:56] That's hilarious.

[01:23:57] The timing, especially because I felt like her and I were on the come up where I'm like

[01:24:06] talking to her and I'm like, can I give you some advice?

[01:24:08] And she looks at me and says, Quinn, you're the smartest player in the game.

[01:24:11] Why wouldn't I take your advice?

[01:24:12] I'm like, okay.

[01:24:13] Which also she had had a habit of saying that very publicly, which was annoying.

[01:24:19] And she would also compare me to Ian and she's like, yeah, Quinn's like the mastermind

[01:24:25] of the season.

[01:24:27] When my power got exposed, that was so annoying where she was like, you know, I'm just not

[01:24:30] a good liar.

[01:24:31] Like you Quinn, you know, I, I just had to tell people about my upgrade.

[01:24:35] I'm like you, you were lying.

[01:24:36] Um, we had come back from this as far as I, it made sense for her and I to link up.

[01:24:43] Um, and I like gave her the advice.

[01:24:46] You should make a deal with T core saying that if you win HOH, you won't put her and

[01:24:53] an extra person up of her choice so that then she knows that like, there's an incentive

[01:25:00] for the HOH to keep you around.

[01:25:02] That conversation is very powerful.

[01:25:04] Come to find out Mackenzie didn't make the deal at all.

[01:25:07] Um, and then I have like chemo battling tooth and nail to keep Angela.

[01:25:12] It's just, oh my gosh, it, I had no leverage and it was all my fault, obviously.

[01:25:18] Like I was too schemey early on, but it was like frustrating to me where I'm like, dude,

[01:25:22] logically you should absolutely work with me, please.

[01:25:27] Yeah.

[01:25:28] Uh, yeah, it's, it's a bit of a mess here.

[01:25:30] Um, I, I got my timeline a little bit wrong.

[01:25:34] It was actually, uh, post veto that Leah went to Tucker to tell him that you were the

[01:25:40] one that orchestrated the Angela situation.

[01:25:42] Um, so it was actually, I think the, it's worse.

[01:25:46] Um, it's shortly before he gets evicted.

[01:25:53] Um, and, uh, yeah, so, uh, it's day 44.

[01:25:59] Um, and, uh, and she, she, uh, she's telling Tucker that, uh, you're like Jacqueline Hyde.

[01:26:07] You carefully orchestrated the Angela situation.

[01:26:11] Um, and got you to blue up.

[01:26:14] He knew everything that he planned to say.

[01:26:16] He planned it all out.

[01:26:17] Um, and, and Tucker was pissed.

[01:26:21] Uh, help me.

[01:26:24] We are.

[01:26:26] Tucker's like, oh, this guy, he acts like he's bad at mental comps, but he remembers every

[01:26:30] single thing about every season, single season he's watched.

[01:26:33] I know what he's up to.

[01:26:35] Uh, he's like, I'm here to break that stupid first and cursed.

[01:26:40] I'm from Boston.

[01:26:41] We break curses.

[01:26:42] That's what I'm here for.

[01:26:43] He's just here for fame.

[01:26:49] What?

[01:26:50] It was a very funny rant.

[01:26:52] No, no, no, no.

[01:26:53] That's hilarious.

[01:26:53] I don't take that personally.

[01:26:54] But, oh, I'm sorry, Tucker.

[01:26:56] I'm here for fame.

[01:26:57] You heard about the show 20 minutes ago, brother.

[01:27:00] What are you talking about?

[01:27:00] Listen, he's there to break curses, Quinn.

[01:27:03] Which I will say, um, the car ride to the studio, you know, we're blindfolded.

[01:27:09] There's all this stuff going on.

[01:27:11] Um, in my head, I was going to be the first person to enter the house if I had a chance.

[01:27:16] Hmm.

[01:27:17] You also wanted to break the curse.

[01:27:19] Yeah.

[01:27:19] I was like, I was not intimidated by that.

[01:27:21] So it's like, there were so many similarities between Tucker and I, and then we were just enemies.

[01:27:26] Like we're both Libras.

[01:27:27] Um, we're both like, you know, pretty sensitive people.

[01:27:31] Um, even when he wants to quit in the game after Leah, he doesn't get his way with Leah and he's pouting in his bed and he's saying he's going to quit for the thousandth time.

[01:27:41] I'm still like, this dude is still a good person and like a good role model for like kids, you know?

[01:27:47] And so I'm like talking to the guy, like, dude, you're such, you're like an annoyingly like good person and I really respect you and all this stuff.

[01:27:55] And then he's like, yeah, this guy's here for the fame.

[01:27:57] So I think you have that conversation like shortly after that rant.

[01:28:01] Uh, what an asshole, bro.

[01:28:04] I bet he probably felt like such a dick or jerk.

[01:28:09] Uh, cause cause then he goes to like, uh, T-Core and Kimo and he's like, uh, this guy has to go.

[01:28:15] Oh, he masterminded that whole situation.

[01:28:17] They're like, no, I don't think that he did that.

[01:28:18] I think you're trusting Leah too much.

[01:28:20] Um, and in the meantime, uh, MJ is also talking to Leah and Tucker about like, guys, I'm telling you the ballers alliance is real.

[01:28:29] Um, and, uh, and then that night Chelsea talks to you about flipping on Tucker.

[01:28:38] Uh, and, um, and then in the morning, uh, she, uh, maybe like she shores up the votes that night.

[01:28:45] She makes sure everyone's on board, uh, to evict Tucker during the day.

[01:28:49] People got very worried because you talked to the cameras about like, I hope she's not screwing me over.

[01:28:53] They're like, don't you dare back out Quinn.

[01:28:55] Um, but of course, dude, in our conversation, like I, I feel like I initiated it, which is like, I'm okay with Chelsea because she is the mastermind of the season.

[01:29:07] But like, I really felt like I initiated that and maybe that's a declaration to her game.

[01:29:10] But like when I was talking to her, I just kept saying like, dude, I know that I'm putting you like, please don't use this against me.

[01:29:18] Like, I'm like, dude, we can take this guy out.

[01:29:20] Like it makes sense.

[01:29:23] And so that's, that's why I felt so insecure about it is because I felt like I was the one who, who initiated the conversation and was putting myself at risk.

[01:29:31] And so that's where that was, that was a thing.

[01:29:35] It was like there, uh, we, there was a lot of people that expected you to take credit for it.

[01:29:41] Uh, and then I think to your credit, you didn't really take credit for it afterward.

[01:29:44] Uh, because it very much was, uh, from what we saw Chelsea's move.

[01:29:50] She's, she talked to you.

[01:29:51] She talked to like, she got everyone like on board.

[01:29:53] Um, and so there was a lot of like, oh, is, is he going to think that he was the one that, that made this happen?

[01:29:59] Um, and, uh, yeah, I recognized in our conversation, um, when she said like, we have the votes.

[01:30:07] And then she says that like, we have Leah and I'm like, you have Mackenzie.

[01:30:11] She's like, yes, I knew that it wasn't my move, but I also knew that like, I'm an important factor in that decision.

[01:30:17] Like just as easily as like my concerns that she could snitch on me to T core chemo and whatever.

[01:30:23] I could very easily flip and then keep Tucker.

[01:30:28] My issue was that like, Tucker's still not going to trust me and he'll go after me.

[01:30:32] He'll find a way to blame me.

[01:30:34] Um, and so, yeah, I, I didn't want to take credit, but I did want to fluff up that.

[01:30:41] Hey, I was involved.

[01:30:42] I was part of this.

[01:30:44] Yeah.

[01:30:44] That's a big dog.

[01:30:46] Come on now.

[01:30:50] Oh my goodness.

[01:30:54] Uh, so then you win HOH.

[01:30:59] Tucker's out.

[01:31:00] You win HOH.

[01:31:01] I mean, things are starting to look up.

[01:31:03] Yes.

[01:31:04] And I'm still feeling the heat of, uh, the Tucker skirt situation, by the way.

[01:31:10] Oh yes.

[01:31:11] That's a, there was a lot of, uh, he was very upset about it.

[01:31:15] Um, because, and I, I did not understand, um, what was happening.

[01:31:23] Like he was, he's like bro code.

[01:31:26] Like what the heck?

[01:31:27] What about me suggests that I would like subscribe to bro code.

[01:31:31] So that's why when I voted out voting him out, I'm like, I vote to evict Mr.

[01:31:35] Bro code himself.

[01:31:36] Tucker.

[01:31:37] Um, he was, cam was sharing that he probably wouldn't wear a skirt, but he like supported

[01:31:42] that I would.

[01:31:43] He's like, I think that's sick, whatever.

[01:31:45] And then Tucker walks in the room.

[01:31:47] He's super woke.

[01:31:48] You know, I'm like, this guy's gonna co-sign this.

[01:31:51] I said, what do you think?

[01:31:52] And he's like annoyed at me.

[01:31:54] Like he's like pissed.

[01:31:56] And I'm like, what's his deal?

[01:31:57] And I was like, you know, you love it.

[01:31:59] The next time he walks through and he goes, no, you're wearing my girl's skirt for real

[01:32:03] pissed goes into his room to pout.

[01:32:05] Rubina goes and talks to him and is like, bro, Quinn and I have been talking about him wearing

[01:32:10] this maroon skirt for like weeks now.

[01:32:12] Like, also you're on the block, dude.

[01:32:16] Like, and I would say I slightly to his defense.

[01:32:21] I think that part of this was that he was already angry with you because of that whole

[01:32:26] Leah conversation.

[01:32:29] Just hilarious.

[01:32:30] So this was just like icing on the cake.

[01:32:32] He, in his mind, I think in that moment, you have now like tricked him into blaming other

[01:32:37] people for what you like orchestrated.

[01:32:41] All of his allies are defending you.

[01:32:43] And on top of it, you're now like wearing Rubina's skirt to like rub it in.

[01:32:48] Yeah.

[01:32:48] That's what it was kind of communicated to me in the jury house.

[01:32:50] And so then I felt really bad that I took it that way because I was like, dude, what are

[01:32:56] you talking about?

[01:32:57] We're on the same team of like destroying gender norms.

[01:33:00] Like, that's why I'm wearing this.

[01:33:02] It's because it's a live eviction night.

[01:33:03] And I want people to see like, you can just be a dude wearing a skirt and it's not a big

[01:33:08] deal.

[01:33:09] Like, what are you talking about?

[01:33:10] And so, yeah, in the moment I was so pissed.

[01:33:13] And he like tried to talk to me before we go into lockdown.

[01:33:15] And he's like, he's like, you know, just bro code and all that.

[01:33:17] And I'm just like, uh-huh.

[01:33:19] Sure, dude.

[01:33:19] And I was just sitting there stone cold, just pissed like this guy.

[01:33:24] I went H-O-H in a dominant fashion.

[01:33:27] I moved, I'm not kidding, 50 eggs in the time it took everyone else to move 10.

[01:33:31] The editing does wonders.

[01:33:32] I was super bad at the gimbal or like the ramp.

[01:33:36] That was really difficult for me.

[01:33:38] But I was able to move eggs so much faster than everyone.

[01:33:41] It did not matter.

[01:33:42] It was like crazy how dominant it was of a win.

[01:33:47] And I celebrated for easily 10, 15 minutes straight.

[01:33:52] Yeah.

[01:33:54] There you go.

[01:33:55] So you are H-O-H.

[01:34:00] And from here you have a lot of choices to make.

[01:34:04] With Tucker gone, like the new power structure has just been blown up.

[01:34:08] And you're now in a position to sort of recreate your own.

[01:34:11] You get a lot of heat this week at the beginning of the week because a lot of

[01:34:14] people were like, why is Quinn trying to make an alliance of like seven people in like a nine

[01:34:21] person house or whatever it was.

[01:34:26] And and like, yes, fair.

[01:34:29] But like the main thing here was I thought you had some good ideas, which was I want to pull in these stray

[01:34:36] pieces like MJ because even though she's been attached to Chelsea, Chelsea has still to this point never really

[01:34:45] nurtured that connection.

[01:34:47] It's like MJ gravitates to Chelsea, but like Chelsea hasn't done a lot to maintain that.

[01:34:52] So MJ is ripe to steal from Chelsea in this moment.

[01:34:56] And I mean, you know that because not only was MJ suspicious of you being in the ballers,

[01:35:01] she was also suspicious of Chelsea being in the ballers.

[01:35:05] And so you looking out for MJ in a spot where a lot of people might expect you to put her up makes a lot of sense.

[01:35:12] And you start to do that work.

[01:35:13] And it's like, OK, there's a world where this works as long as, you know, you stay on top of it.

[01:35:21] And that's where it felt like.

[01:35:24] You set this up and it's almost like this is where Chelsea really gets activated because you set this up and then Chelsea goes.

[01:35:36] Oh, no, I'll have that.

[01:35:38] Yeah, I'll yeah, that's yeah, I'll have that.

[01:35:41] And she works on MJ all week long and she just just takes takes it all right from you.

[01:35:48] She starts the whole Joseph thing rolling and and at the end of the week, of course, the whole last minute flip is kind of wild.

[01:35:57] But the end result at the very least is that like she really just takes control of the game from this point and never lets go.

[01:36:05] Absolutely.

[01:36:06] I like I felt like MJ not owed me, but like just logically sees like Quinn is down to clown like he's on it like a blue bonnet.

[01:36:18] We should get we should make this work because her and I had mutual friends in Leah in the pedal room.

[01:36:23] Like to me, it makes sense.

[01:36:26] It's like all the recipe for a perfect storm.

[01:36:28] And then it just lightning doesn't strike there.

[01:36:31] And I thought that by telling her point blank, you're not going on the block this week, especially after what I did for her the week before,

[01:36:38] where I straight up told T-Core and chemo before I went to the diary room mid conversation again.

[01:36:45] Awesome.

[01:36:47] I'm like, I'm like, well, whatever we choose to do, I'm not voting to affect MJ.

[01:36:52] Like I straight up drew a line in the sand.

[01:36:54] Like to me, I like had done all the work.

[01:36:56] I felt really disrespected on her behalf when Tucker is asking her to throw the competition like the AI arena.

[01:37:03] And then he's still pushing for her to go home sitting next to Angela.

[01:37:07] Like that pissed me off.

[01:37:09] And so I'm looking at her saying we have mutual enemies in Angela.

[01:37:13] That's who my target is.

[01:37:15] Originally, I wanted Rubina gone, but I felt like Angela is more unpredictable and has won more competition.

[01:37:23] So I land on Angela, but I thought that I did all the work to get it started just to witness in our unnamed five, her like a magnet to Cam.

[01:37:34] I didn't even fully clock until later on what Chelsea was doing, but it was just her and Cam were like, you could not separate them.

[01:37:43] And that's what I'm like.

[01:37:45] Smokescreen because they never really linked strategically.

[01:37:48] Which is crazy.

[01:37:50] Why not?

[01:37:50] Like, why not?

[01:37:53] Why?

[01:37:53] Oh, that's so puzzling to me.

[01:37:55] That's like me finding out T-Corps and Kimo didn't have a name final two.

[01:37:59] You guys were just hanging out for fun?

[01:38:03] What do you mean you're like your power three with Rubina, Kimo, and T-Corps didn't have a name?

[01:38:09] You didn't.

[01:38:09] I straight up said in the jury house, I was like, you didn't think for TV you should slap a name on it?

[01:38:13] Okay.

[01:38:14] Awesome.

[01:38:15] Awesome.

[01:38:15] I wanted to.

[01:38:17] I should say they were.

[01:38:18] They did end up in a trio, which was Chelsea, Cam, and MJ.

[01:38:23] But Chelsea was always in the center of that trio.

[01:38:26] Yes.

[01:38:26] Which I thought was confusing because I thought it was like, I don't know.

[01:38:31] It just felt like impossible to form a final three with McKenzie and Leah because I was scared.

[01:38:39] This is Chelsea's aura in the game.

[01:38:42] I'm like, I'm scared to try to form something with MJ because Leah is telling me that everything we tell MJ is going to get leaked out.

[01:38:52] So I'm like, if I try to form something with her that isn't just a big five, she's going to tell Chelsea and then I'm screwed next week.

[01:39:01] So I need to just like try to be close with her on a friend level and hope that she appreciates it because if I push anything too strategic, I fear that she's going to leave me in the dust for Chelsea and Cam anyway.

[01:39:15] Yeah.

[01:39:15] So, I mean, basically what's happening is you have that conversation with MJ, I think the night you win and it's a good conversation.

[01:39:23] But then the next day, like, again, like I think the follow up wasn't really there.

[01:39:28] And instead, the person that was following up with her was Chelsea.

[01:39:31] And Chelsea gets in because she's super pissed at Joseph.

[01:39:37] And because Joseph is talking, is talking his game.

[01:39:41] And so, like, we talked about Joseph's pinnacle, his high point, right?

[01:39:47] Things got a lot worse very quickly because he started telling the cameras that he really genuinely intended to take Tucker to the final two.

[01:39:54] And not only started telling the cameras that, but then started like basically telling everyone else in the game that.

[01:40:01] It became really obvious that he was super loyal to Tucker, which which was very frustrating for a lot of people in the game like Chelsea.

[01:40:10] Chelsea.

[01:40:10] And then he the whole thing with Chelsea, which was in the episodes, it was the final straw for him.

[01:40:18] Chelsea starts complaining to MJ about it and they start bonding over this mutual sort of like trash talking of Joseph.

[01:40:25] they're talking now for like the day after you win then the next day and they're still talking

[01:40:31] and that's when they start saying like hey wouldn't it be cool if the two of us got to the end

[01:40:36] together uh to win with two women of faith could you imagine um and uh maybe the three of us maybe

[01:40:42] with cam we can pull them in um dang it i should it was like yeah this was this was what quinn was

[01:40:48] trying to do and it just dang it and like dude joseph that week was killing me you know as as many

[01:40:57] props as i'll give him he's a good player that week i think he might have been off the bottle

[01:41:01] i don't know what he was doing um previous to that he is he's telling everyone that he can beat them

[01:41:08] yeah but then to me which is pissing them off but then to me he's like yeah i think that you'll beat

[01:41:15] me in the end which i was then in the dr i was like it's funny you know he's saying he's a bigger

[01:41:20] super fan than me we both watch rob has a podcast if he was tuning in to uh survivor 46 uh steven

[01:41:28] fishback uh during like survivor know-it-alls articulates that if someone tells you that they

[01:41:34] think they can beat you in the end that means or that they think you can beat them in the end

[01:41:39] that means they have every incentive to send you home and so i was like so he's met he's making the

[01:41:44] mistake of telling me that i'll beat him because now i'm like nervous about him and him stabbing

[01:41:49] me in the back which i had already thought he was a snake and i was okay with it i was like i love

[01:41:54] that we're both dirt bags um and then he's telling everyone else that he'll beat them which they don't

[01:42:00] see as like a reason to keep him but a reason to just send him home for being annoying it was like

[01:42:05] the worst of both scenarios for him to do this i don't know why he talked about it at all

[01:42:11] listen that is that's what i was saying for like two weeks basically just like joseph what are you

[01:42:17] doing leah and i were in my hoh room be like shut up and i was like why do you hate me and it's just

[01:42:24] like oh my god and this is when this is when your relationship with leah starts to be like

[01:42:30] wait because basically like before it had been uh like she would be talking to joseph and joseph

[01:42:37] would be like yeah quinn's jealous of me um and she'd be like he totally is um and then this

[01:42:43] following week she's now hearing from mj that like people are not liking joseph she tells you

[01:42:48] like hey people are not liking joseph anymore and all of a sudden it's like you and her being like

[01:42:52] man this joseph guy like what is he doing just blowing my mind with his actions and he was like

[01:42:59] he told cam that uh like the only hoh he's tried to win was the first one and he goes because i was

[01:43:06] honestly the only one i needed to win and i'm like stop please i'm begging you um yeah and what

[01:43:17] was crazy is i thought that by him doing that it's like tanking his social game and so my perspective

[01:43:23] is people aren't worried about him even more they're like this guy's crazy he's not winning comps

[01:43:29] whatever um and so that's also why putting him on the block didn't feel that threatening because i'm

[01:43:37] like none of you are intimidated by him being able to win compared to this power three like he's floating

[01:43:44] in the middle of no man's land like this doesn't track like it and i was trying to suck up to chelsea

[01:43:49] by not putting up t-core it was just yeah this this was definitely a disaster on many levels uh because

[01:43:59] you you won absolutely nothing by not putting up t-core she was so mad at you uh i don't know how much

[01:44:06] you've heard but like she really like you talk about rants like she had a lot of rants for you that

[01:44:11] week um joseph told me that she told him that like i was like a coward for not for putting him up and i

[01:44:20] was like you were the alternative brother also um i if leah does her one-on-ones not at two in the morning

[01:44:31] i think that i have way more time to suss out if he's going home or not because as at two in the

[01:44:40] morning people are like obviously we have to send home one of the three like obviously and so it's

[01:44:47] just like whoever's being put up is just a pawn like whatever and so writing into the nomination

[01:44:52] ceremony i do have that security where i'm like this sucks that i'm putting up my boy but he is

[01:44:58] absolutely safe because obviously there's a three going on that we should all be worried about right

[01:45:06] please gang and i also felt like i don't know if you were there i don't know if you were in the hoh room

[01:45:11] nestled in there i thought i did a great job articulating why the veto shouldn't be used

[01:45:17] you were doing it did seem like you were making progress uh i will say um if i if i try to pull up

[01:45:26] that would have been like day 49 was when she used it uh i even wrote day 49 she woke up with a

[01:45:32] different mindset um so day 48 um you have this long conversation um and she was pushing back for

[01:45:42] a long time uh and she started to get a little upset but the like the longer you kept going back

[01:45:47] and forth it did seem like you had talked her down a bit i thought that i did a great job i didn't make

[01:45:52] it about me because i working with leah it's like she's a very self-interested player you have to point

[01:45:57] out what which that's not like a drag like everyone should be self-interested um but i'm like this is

[01:46:04] what's best for you like this is blowing up your spot like people do not like angela like this you know

[01:46:11] she said a lot of things that uh you know aren't cool she's acted in a way that's crazy she makes the

[01:46:18] house uncomfortable this is gonna be my rant um like to the point where people are trying to have

[01:46:23] a conversation and then you look in the far corner and it's angela just staring at me that's like wildly

[01:46:30] uncomfortable like she is like siphoning the air out of rooms she's acting in a way that is just like

[01:46:36] she's making her problem everyone else's issue um she is like crying about things she was pacing

[01:46:44] back and forth within the like view of the camera knowing that we were all in the hoh room and she's

[01:46:51] like acting like she's upset like there's just so many reasons socially that like sticking your neck

[01:46:58] out for angela does not make sense and i didn't get through i literally got on my knees and begged

[01:47:05] i like i was like and if none of that worked please please like i gave it everything i had

[01:47:13] um i brought up like lisa and um what's his bucket uh her boyfriend on season three um i'm like she had

[01:47:25] the opportunity to vote him back in the house keep in mind she doesn't know that the jury is like

[01:47:30] everyone at this point this is me being a dirt bag and i was like she knew that um like inviting him in

[01:47:38] the house like that would be too big of a like threat for her like he's a guaranteed like whatever

[01:47:43] but it just isn't worth it and so she doesn't do it and she ends up winning the game i'm like trying my

[01:47:49] best to like oh my god and it just doesn't work i walked her home i straight up like please

[01:47:58] i mean listen i can tell you that i think there's definitely uh a large portion of the audience

[01:48:05] that feels like the the one thing you could have done more um the thing that kind of like

[01:48:12] i guess allowed her to uh to make this decision was a bit of a meme thoughts um you're sick nasty

[01:48:23] um you're incredible you looked really cool and yellow um reminded me of the minions

[01:48:30] um i like your smile you treat people with kindness um you're really funny you're really

[01:48:37] really funny you're really good at cooking your nails are good still french there's a lot

[01:48:42] there's a lot it's just like the word sensational just comes to mind when i think about you

[01:48:52] that you know maybe it was that speech itself or maybe it was just the vibe in general but

[01:48:59] she knew she could do whatever she wanted and be fine yeah that's what's and if she doesn't know

[01:49:04] that maybe she doesn't use the veto i still think she uses them you know like she did not care um

[01:49:12] dude oh my gosh i think that with hindsight um i would have like if i could go back in time punch

[01:49:21] myself in the stomach um i'm putting a i let it be known that i would put up t core because leah

[01:49:28] loves t core and so my theory post game is that maybe she would be not willing to risk t core in that

[01:49:37] situation but i think that if i put up t core chelsea's mad at me and then doesn't trust me

[01:49:43] and then going into next week she wins hoh hey just like and she won't have to do anyway i actually

[01:49:47] don't think chelsea would have minded that much like uh like i don't know how much this like came across

[01:49:53] in the game but like uh like t core from the perspective of the audience at least cared way more

[01:50:00] about chelsea in the game than chelsea cared about t core in the game um in fact chelsea i think

[01:50:04] talked about like t core going up on the block uh initially when you were hoh she was like yeah i

[01:50:10] could see i could like have t core go on the block like that would be kind of chill um and uh and so

[01:50:17] like you know obviously she wanted joseph on the block it's what she had kind of been pushing for

[01:50:22] because he was annoying her um but uh but i think i think for sure the move there was just was just t

[01:50:29] core and i think you would have been in a much better position for because like and like the

[01:50:34] sort of like the basic logic which is obviously more complicated is like well you can you can do

[01:50:40] what chelsea wants and and put up joseph and potentially lose joseph and then chelsea gets what

[01:50:46] she wants you've done what she wants she's not mad at you she's happy about you but then if she wins

[01:50:49] next week her target's gone who is she targeting or you can make chelsea a little upset because you

[01:50:55] put somebody else on the block but next week she still has joseph to deal with regardless um so yeah

[01:51:02] i will say that like i am of the mindset and maybe maybe there was more stuff going on behind the

[01:51:10] scenes i was of the mindset that leah and i secured the votes for joseph the night before the eviction

[01:51:16] we did a good job of like like soft launching the concept of not sending this dude home like i was

[01:51:23] really pleading i know that i i got caught up in like i i pushed for rubina to not go home

[01:51:32] and i should have just focused the energy on keeping joseph but that just felt so obvious to

[01:51:38] me that he would stay so i'm like guys if we can get rid of chemo we should um rubina the reason why

[01:51:43] i didn't want her to go home is because she had shared multiple times throughout the season and maybe this

[01:51:49] is me being a weak player um but it's like she shared that she didn't want her journey in the

[01:51:55] house to be defined by that of her like showmance um and so the idea of her going home the week after

[01:52:03] tucker that to me i was like bro i do not want her to have to live with this and so as stupid as it is

[01:52:10] and i recognize normally i'm more cutthroat and like who cares but it was like in that i was like man

[01:52:15] i just i don't want to be that guy you know i'm trying to be a feminist here i'm trying to uplift

[01:52:22] women i i can't do this and so i think i shouldn't have used any amount of influence to argue why rubina

[01:52:28] should stay but i do think that we had the votes to stay or for joseph to stay from your perspective i

[01:52:35] know that chelsea didn't what like was it really chemo speech that flipped things or okay so so

[01:52:43] basically how what we saw was that i mean quite frankly uh the minute joseph went up on the block

[01:52:52] i thought he's probably going home um like the like the the just the overall vibe of uh the house and

[01:53:03] how they felt about him and the fact that the numbers were just straight up there for it to happen

[01:53:07] um meant that it was very likely um so it was not it was not impossible it was like for some reason

[01:53:13] they're still saying chemo but it's probably going to end up being joseph and then so when chelsea

[01:53:19] talked to mj about it initially a few days before the eviction i was like okay here it is um like

[01:53:25] she's she's seen the numbers she recognizes she can do this it's huge for her game if she takes

[01:53:29] out joseph here um and so she started talking to mj about it they went back and forth a couple times

[01:53:37] um and uh like kind of like decide like uh it's like day 52 in the morning um they're like going

[01:53:49] like okay well we're definitely keeping rubina between chemo and joseph it's like there's there's

[01:53:58] this back and forth um and uh there are a couple of times when chelsea's like let's just do it

[01:54:05] and then they kind of walk it back um and so when it comes down to the vote i was expecting them to

[01:54:13] vote out joseph um but then we find out it was apparently due to the speech and i'm like that's that

[01:54:21] can't be true um that was they both are saying it really was down to the speech which was

[01:54:28] wild i think that i just have to believe that yeah i mean why wouldn't you like it's not like

[01:54:33] because it's not the kind of thing like it's better they look better as strategists if it did

[01:54:38] not come down to the speech so i generally tend to believe somebody when they tell me something that

[01:54:42] makes them look less smart if that makes sense and it just to me that felt like some dangerous stuff to

[01:54:48] be like sorry um we had to send him home because of this but it was actually something else like

[01:54:54] i was like i'm not in the game of like speculating stuff like that i don't want any smoke of like

[01:55:01] thinking that they're lying because if that's their truth and if that's what they're comfortable

[01:55:05] lying about like that's kind of sick like whatever man like okay that's the truth but we had the votes

[01:55:13] and before this this is the payoff before this uh ai arena joseph is getting his mind right okay

[01:55:24] in the weight room just pacing and he's going jimmy butler game six they love an underdog like just

[01:55:36] going back and forth and i walk up to him and i'm like can i give you a motivational speech and he's

[01:55:41] like yeah um and i look at him and i was like we've seen players who can win when they want players like

[01:55:47] jag or mickey and that's cool but the players who win when they have to that's legacy you want to be

[01:55:55] dan you want to be dr will you want to be tyson go out there and win and um he's like full confidence

[01:56:04] looks at me and goes quinn i'm going to crush them it feels like he's going into war and he will die

[01:56:12] if he doesn't win this like this is how high stakes this feels and i just go i love you we hug each

[01:56:18] other just so intensely i thought that he could like swallow fire in that moment and then he apparently

[01:56:25] goes out there and gets smoked did you know did you see that this is uh this specific competition too

[01:56:33] is one that he had been like boasting that he would definitely beat like anyone like he was like

[01:56:38] i would have beaten like michael or jag or like tucker at the like this is the competition that i

[01:56:44] can beat anybody in that's crazy and then he loses to like rubina who apparently had to go back and

[01:56:50] forth like three or four times and i'm like did you take a smoke break man what happened like let's

[01:56:57] let's win the game here please oh my gosh i felt like even like chemo is so tall that feels like

[01:57:04] pretty difficult and then you just have to beat rubina like come on man i wanted him to win so bad but

[01:57:12] this specific comp just wasn't for him yeah um so this is this is really a moment for you um

[01:57:24] and uh i although i do have to just to quickly go back to um thoughts um you're sick nasty you're

[01:57:33] sick nasty i'm sure you've seen this was like the meme of the season um where i don't know if you're

[01:57:42] familiar with uh with jet lag uh on youtube but like um we uh we had the creators of jet lag

[01:57:50] watched the premiere of big brother um and we had to podcast with them and they talked about it

[01:57:55] and then i talked to them after the season ended uh about uh their most recent season of jet lag

[01:58:02] and i asked them if they kept up with it and they said no but we have we have like infected their

[01:58:08] feeds on social media and so he was like yeah i know there's something about like you're sick nasty

[01:58:15] like uh i just i just saw that everywhere dude i like it was like really confusing because i didn't

[01:58:23] know what i was gonna say um like i had no idea like moments like that i don't remember doing that

[01:58:30] like that sounds like something i would do that's how i talk to like people specifically like women

[01:58:35] uh yeah you know um and so it's like yeah that's that's the way i talk like i don't know um

[01:58:42] um and so come eviction night i was like really stressed on what i was gonna say or a finale night

[01:58:48] i was like i don't know what i'm gonna say when i go to cast my vote like i need something funny like

[01:58:54] whatever and i said maybe i'll say that i'm gonna vote for like the most sick nasty player

[01:58:59] and um one of the people who like works for the show just looked at me and went

[01:59:06] like oh okay like maybe i you know i probably said that a lot in the dr or something like okay

[01:59:11] and then i the second i get my phone i facetime my friend maya and they let me know they're like

[01:59:18] yeah so you were a meme um okay i feel like it is a huge just to quickly interrupt it is a huge

[01:59:24] missed opportunity to to not say to for you to call them in for them to not go you know what quinn

[01:59:31] you were sick nasty you and just do the speech to you in that moment that would have been great

[01:59:36] oh man oh that would have been great i just had no clue um that is really how i talk that that's me

[01:59:44] spitting game that's my primo stuff um so okay so go back to that moment they're telling you this is

[01:59:50] this is a thing what was your reaction my jaw was on the ground because i could i didn't even remember

[01:59:55] it and then um i'm watching the clip and i'm like that guy's spitting right now she did look cool and

[02:00:02] yellow all right she is willy funny willy willy funny she looked like a minion she the second i saw

[02:00:07] her she was like my boy like come on like come on that's my come on that's my dog and so

[02:00:16] you know it gave away the taryn you're sitting there yellow jumpsuit on does that work on you

[02:00:23] listen we had a whole we had a whole discussion on this i believe i could be wrong i think it was

[02:00:31] oh man i i hope i'm not right i think it was jacob jones that was like

[02:00:35] hmm i want someone to talk to me like that right like i feel like that's really sweet you know i'm

[02:00:41] just telling the truth uh and also she was egging me on she was counting up with things i was like

[02:00:47] this is a good bit i like this um yeah that's i don't know it's my life um that's the way i talk

[02:00:56] to people listen uh there there are much worse legacies to have on big brothers yeah it's a little

[02:01:04] thing called riz all right kids clock in um

[02:01:10] um okay so joseph leaves this is another like classic iconic moment from quinn which is uh your

[02:01:20] face at the end of that episode um and again because again it's just like it's such deep sorrow

[02:01:29] and vulnerability um and uh and it really helps you with the recoil of this because again like you

[02:01:38] normally you screw somebody over you are the default pick to then target next week and it very nearly

[02:01:45] didn't happen because they genuinely felt bad uh and you managed to like show that vulnerability

[02:01:52] show that you were hurt while also not indicating that you were going to seek revenge in any way

[02:01:59] and realistically like when they were talking to me my in my head i'm like what's the alternative

[02:02:06] chemo rubina and uh t-core no i am dead to them like if chemo goes home now all of a sudden t-core's

[02:02:15] in a position where she kind of has to work with me like in theory because it's not like mj's

[02:02:21] prioritizing her relationship with t-core um and so with the power three staying i'm like

[02:02:27] they hate me now um chemo had was gonna put was wanted mckenzie to go home because she would

[02:02:34] hypothetically put him up i did put him up and so i'm screwed so i have to accept these apologies

[02:02:42] because it's in my best interest and then just like my soft skills as a person like

[02:02:47] they believed that i accepted the apology i if i won hoh like for leah's week i'm probably not

[02:02:55] targeting them but the week after if i win hoh i'm for sure going after them just because

[02:03:01] their comp win like equity was too high in my opinion i don't know what your stance on that is but

[02:03:07] i mean it it obviously they never lost after that week so you would have been it wouldn't have worked

[02:03:11] you would have been too late yeah i was locked in a cage it was literally the hoh is after leah's

[02:03:17] hoh were mj chelsea mj chelsea mj so just way too risky and so um i also thought that like

[02:03:27] you know mj and i had a or no that's this next week right um yeah it was just like she's

[02:03:37] apologizing to me and when she shares the reason why she did what she did i like can't be mad at

[02:03:43] that and so to me sorry there's a gnat in here um so like to me i can't be mad given the context of

[02:03:53] why the decision was made and so i'm curious if that kind of weighed in on them where they're like

[02:03:57] quinn is a really big ally and someone who's gonna like you know like what am i supposed to do in

[02:04:06] that situation i don't know what i will tell you is they felt totally fine about you in terms of like

[02:04:12] betraying you and and all of that uh the thing that kept coming up was he's too close to leah

[02:04:20] um that like leah screwed him over so bad and he's still tight with he will he is inseparable

[02:04:27] from her at this point um and they did not trust leah uh there were a few conversations cam got in

[02:04:35] trouble because of this because he talked to chelsea and he said hey i don't know what quinn

[02:04:38] would do but i think leah will come for you um and chelsea was like why haven't you told me this

[02:04:44] before and it was a whole conversation um but uh but for a long time it was like well

[02:04:51] leah is a problem can we get quinn to be with us without leah and they they kept trying they kept

[02:04:57] being like hey let's have a conversation with quinn but every time they they felt like every time

[02:05:01] they talked to you you were like yeah and we'll bring leah in too and they were like oh stop doing

[02:05:05] that um and so basically up until like almost like the night before basically i think uh the plan

[02:05:15] was if they were going to take a shot it's going to be at leah um and then just at the last minute it

[02:05:21] was like wait why don't we just take the shot at quinn um and and and then and then that's that's all

[02:05:28] she wrote you know absolutely absurd like when i and i knew that chelsea started to not well you

[02:05:38] know we already know that but like she's articulating um during our one-on-one she says that i'm safe

[02:05:45] and then she corrects herself and says like no definitives like sorry but like i don't want to put

[02:05:51] you up this week um but she's sharing with me that the reason one of the reasons why she flipped is

[02:05:57] that leah was saying i can't do this um in terms of voting chemo out and so that in conjunction with

[02:06:06] like chemo's speech is and she didn't want to be on the wrong side of the vote again that's actually

[02:06:11] why she did it and in my head i'm like i'm not really buying this feels like a cop-out like you

[02:06:16] already have my forgiveness like you throwing leah under the bus is just a little puzzling to me i'm

[02:06:22] not too interested in you know like yeah but leah stuck with the plan is my perspective on that um

[02:06:29] but then flash forward to which hold on um we do the veto trick question by the way

[02:06:41] otav is so hard um and me looking for the tucker spot and not being able to find it like i'm ripping

[02:06:49] through quinn's left and right i picked up a cedric and was like get out of my face all right i had

[02:06:55] every tile blocked up ready to go me not being able to find tucker's name piece just confirmed in

[02:07:02] my head that like this is the right answer um and i was so convinced that when mckenzie shows her

[02:07:11] cedric answer my genuine response is that works too you're so freaking smart dude idiot oh my goodness

[02:07:20] um and leading up to this anyway i'm feeling secure because mckenzie and i have a fantastic

[02:07:28] conversation in the pedal room where we are discussing if it's better to get rid of chemo

[02:07:34] or angela we both are not vibing with angela in the house um we both are kind of annoyed we're

[02:07:44] we're fed up we've had enough uh and so we kind of agree chemo is the best threat between the two of

[02:07:53] them all of a sudden mj doesn't believe that i'm gonna actually go after chemo allegedly and that makes

[02:08:05] no sense to me like i don't know okay so uh basically the the um the the plan was always it

[02:08:18] was chemo i mean from very early on um and uh mj wins the veto um and she's like i'm definitely not

[02:08:28] using it um and uh like the the whole situation uh with otav that they i'm sure i'm i don't know

[02:08:37] maybe you didn't hear this story but like uh mj tells the story to chelsea that like she was up

[02:08:41] there and angela comes up and tries and sees mj's answer and tries to trick her into thinking and be

[02:08:48] like oh yeah that's the right answer uh like laughing at her basically and then turns out she

[02:08:55] had a different answer and thought that she was tricking mj and mj wins and then this ironically was

[02:09:00] like to them was like she's so not a threat she's such a disaster um let's definitely not use the veto

[02:09:08] chemo's a bigger threat we'll just take chemo out um and uh and at this point chelsea is saying that

[02:09:16] her hit list is chemo first then leah then you then angela and uh final you know final three to four

[02:09:27] is like herself t core cam mj something along those lines um and uh you have like this visionaries

[02:09:37] meeting with chemo um and uh there's a very funny uh you guys get alcohol there's some kissing drama

[02:09:44] which we'll talk about um and there's a very funny moment i don't think this made the episode

[02:09:49] where rubina goes to t core a little bit tipsy uh and is like t core i know where your shields in the

[02:09:57] game me and chemo uh and t core's like what no that's not how i see it at all and rubina's like

[02:10:04] come on you can be honest about it it's fine i'm fine with it um and she's like no i don't want you

[02:10:10] to feel that way and she's like listen i've been on the block twice you haven't at all it's inevitable

[02:10:14] i'm not mad about it um and she's like no that's not how it is um and she's like listen i don't mind

[02:10:21] i wouldn't be upset if you did it intentionally uh like i'm happy for you if i'm able to walk away

[02:10:27] from this experience with us as friends uh like i'll be really happy and t core gets really upset and

[02:10:32] starts crying like no it's not how i see this game it was a very uh funny moment um uh you are also

[02:10:40] uh we'll we'll skip the kissing stuff um for now uh and um and then uh t core chemo and rubina

[02:10:49] they didn't like the conversation with you earlier the visionaries conversation um and uh they feel a

[02:10:55] little sketched out okay so then um the uh the next day is when things blow up for you because

[02:11:05] uh angela wakes up and the night before you and leah had been like hanging out all night

[02:11:12] and um and this is i think most of this is in the episode but like she sees you she also saw that you

[02:11:18] were talking with t core chemo and rubina and she's like oh my god they're working together it's them

[02:11:25] they're the group um and uh and and i was like here it is she's finally turning on leah just like

[02:11:32] she turns on all of her number ones um and she goes to chelsea and she says i hate to do it but

[02:11:37] leah is working with quinn and making an alliance with the trio uh and i haven't talked to leah about

[02:11:44] it but i think it's really dangerous chelsea goes to cam and they both say we believe it

[02:11:51] angela's an honest player she wouldn't make this up uh

[02:11:56] and uh chelsea's like you know what maybe we should use the veto after all and take out leah

[02:12:01] because of this um and uh and so then she goes to mj and she talks to mj and then she's starting to

[02:12:09] be like wait a minute okay the more i think about this and angela what interesting doesn't make any

[02:12:15] sense actually hold on hold on it doesn't make any sense but maybe we should still just use the

[02:12:22] veto and take out leah like now that i'm thinking about taking out leah maybe it just maybe i mean

[02:12:26] that does kind of like i kind of got attached to that ideal right like it kind of makes sense to

[02:12:30] just do even if angela was lying even if angela wasn't right you know leah and quinn are a problem

[02:12:35] and i should take the shot at leah um and uh in the meantime angela's going to leah and being like

[02:12:44] explaining the whole thing to her and being like if i'm wrong i'm such a fool i'm sorry

[02:12:47] um and uh and then as chelsea talks to cam again she starts thinking well hold on

[02:12:56] what should we just target quinn he's better at comps like if we i mean if we're gonna take out

[02:13:04] leah maybe we should just take out quinn he's gonna be better at competitions it'll be easier to take

[02:13:10] out leah later um and uh and that's kind of how things shift in that direction and and and the

[02:13:18] better at comps thing mj and cam really latch on to this because they both feel like we'll just win

[02:13:24] out and so if we take out quinn yeah we'll just win out um and even as chelsea starts to back away

[02:13:31] like actually i don't want to do quinn i'd rather do leah mj and cam push hard no it should be quinn

[02:13:37] um and uh and then you know things kind of get locked in from there um and uh you know and and

[02:13:47] with angela having just thrown leah under the bus they feel like well leah won't even have will

[02:13:50] barely even have angela if quinn leaves so she'll have nobody she'll be easy to pick off uh and so

[02:13:55] that's kind of just how it flips over to you that's so interesting so like um what's it called

[02:14:02] the i i i was shocked to hear that they like believed angela for even a second like that's

[02:14:09] why are you losing checkers to a dog you know like uh that's crazy um my conversation with chemo i knew

[02:14:19] wasn't great in regards to like the visionaries that's when i was like i pretty much i threw joseph

[02:14:25] under the bus a million and one times um where i was like joseph um he told me about the cedric vote

[02:14:31] immediately that it was like a plan that was in action and then um in the moment you guys are

[02:14:38] telling me that it was just something that happened like that night and then as time has passed the

[02:14:42] story has changed he told me about um like i knew about you didn't tell me about the five point

[02:14:48] alliance joseph was the one who told me about the tanks and he told me about sixth avenue like i was

[02:14:54] pretty much saying that joseph was keeping me giving me all this information while chemo was

[02:14:58] keeping it from me and so that's actually what caused this like division between us it's not my

[02:15:03] fault i was just informed by joseph what was going on and i didn't feel appreciated you know i shared a

[02:15:09] lot in this season of like you know it feels like he chose tucker over me which they absolutely did by

[02:15:15] the way um but it's like i like really was just trying to make myself come off as you know my cause is

[02:15:24] just like please just consider from my perspective but i knew my conversation it didn't go well when

[02:15:31] i explain everything and then chemo interjects and goes okay well since we're saying things um week

[02:15:38] four when you use the uh upgrade to put rubina on the block i felt like you didn't include me in that

[02:15:45] decision and i was like all right so none of this worked okay i'm in danger awesome love that for me

[02:15:52] um that's crazy i don't understand cam targeting me also leah's better at competitions than me

[02:15:59] i'm a liability in these mental comps i'm i know well with the eggs that yeah they're like holy cow

[02:16:08] this guy's good oh you see his fingers those feminine hands i'm like oh my goodness um man that's so

[02:16:17] what i'm like but oh gosh um yeah i feel like leah is a more consistent competitor so that's like

[02:16:25] funny i think that that's just i think i think like specifically for mj and cam they're thinking

[02:16:30] physicality they're thinking uh that's what they have they're very physical players so like

[02:16:36] they're they felt like it's going to be easier to beat leah in physical stuff than than quinn um and

[02:16:44] and and and like you know it the not that it wasn't still like pretty you know mj and chelsea

[02:16:52] ended up winning but like that's how it has been for a while it's like the end game comps are super

[02:16:57] super physical so like the logic isn't that bad and i do think that you were the better play there um

[02:17:03] you know maybe competitively you weren't as good but like i do think that uh that like you were too

[02:17:10] like you had ins with those people in ways that leah did not um at that time um and you also uh

[02:17:19] like i think were more capable of like outing what chelsea was doing um which was the main thing i was

[02:17:25] saying i said at that time before chelsea even like from the minute chelsea won hoh i i looked at the

[02:17:32] board and i said if chelsea takes out quinn this week i think she wins the game um and uh and it and

[02:17:39] it took a second to get there but then she did it and i was like okay wow i it's happening i think

[02:17:43] she's gonna win this thing she's so sick and it's like i think that me going home it's like crazy

[02:17:51] how it worked out just because i wasn't gonna target her next week for sure um and it's like the the trio

[02:18:01] post game they're saying oh yeah we would have targeted uh chelsea i'm not buying that for a second

[02:18:07] so like chemo and rubina once tico was gone were heavily looking at chelsea to their credit i don't

[02:18:14] know what i don't know if t core said that t core to my knowledge never looked at chelsea no no t core

[02:18:19] didn't say it she yeah that was interesting like in the jury house there's like a lot of information

[02:18:25] given that just didn't line up but one of which was like that they were on to chelsea like even

[02:18:31] like during my hoh week they're like yeah we wanted chelsea out and i'm like

[02:18:36] i don't remember you guys throwing anyone under the bus specifically that's crazy um

[02:18:42] yeah let's see what happened that week uh yeah the our alliance and now that alliance when

[02:18:50] leah burns her fingers on jalapenos if they don't give us jalapenos that night it doesn't happen okay

[02:18:56] she's sitting there soaking her hands in milk i'm just trying to be a good friend and support her

[02:19:00] and be like hey you're in pain let me be around you to uplift you um it we're called like the midnight

[02:19:08] burn club is uh that that's the post show that's the name of our alliance there um to me it still

[02:19:18] feels like you send chemo home right like come on brother but it is what it is um yeah that's that's

[02:19:24] all the context i have i oh oh what i will say is i go to bed and wake up i'm annoyed about something

[02:19:36] different and then leah's like no no we're we're screwed yeah like what do you mean she's like yeah

[02:19:43] last night you got cooked um and yeah pretty much you're going on the block today and so i have to run

[02:19:50] upstairs i only have a couple of minutes which is great for me love that um first i talk with mj my

[02:19:58] theory is if i can just get her to not use the veto period like whatever um but first i need to brush

[02:20:05] my teeth because no one wants to talk to anyone with stank breath i'm going to town zero cavities

[02:20:10] my entire life um mj opens the conversation she's like hey can we talk i need to be honest with you

[02:20:16] for a second i'm like oh of course and so now my play is act like you have no idea what's going on

[02:20:23] so then maybe you can like guilt her and be caught off guard and be like whatever um we're talking

[02:20:29] outside and she pretty much just shares that she doesn't feel comfortable um with the way like the

[02:20:35] nominations you know she thinks that we're going to take out angela instead of chemo which makes zero

[02:20:40] sense to me um to which i end like the conversation pulling out some friendship pins

[02:20:48] okay the during my hoh i had been collecting all the veto safety pins that like keeps our clothes

[02:20:56] together and the shoes whatever and i made some sick jewelry for myself and on it was a pop tab that

[02:21:03] represented my final two with leah and then i had a pop tab that represented my final two with joseph

[02:21:08] um i made one for leah because i'm sweet um and then i had an extra one and so my like deep three

[02:21:18] option is oh well i guess this is a bad time to give this to you then i made you a friendship pin

[02:21:25] pull it out mj did not care but i tried she seemed in the moment to be like oh thanks quinn but post show

[02:21:34] she says that she knew what i was doing so that's whatever this so what happened was um there wasn't

[02:21:40] a lot of this uh this season i think primarily because of the ai arena and literally like the

[02:21:46] second the ai arena went away uh like it starts happening that um they basically inoculated themselves

[02:21:54] to the guilt because they had they felt guilty about the decision to begin with so that night before

[02:21:58] when they were talking with leah and after they were doing the thing that happens on big brother

[02:22:03] which is like actually quinn sucks and it's all his fault he's in this position um and so

[02:22:10] you know i don't think the the guilt tripping could have worked actually when you started to pitch to

[02:22:16] them strategically after the after the fact they started go quinn's right maybe we should be doing

[02:22:21] something else but by then it was a little too late and it was like i would have loved to open with

[02:22:26] like strategy but there was you didn't have time yeah i sprinted up the steps that's when angela calls

[02:22:33] me a weasel um and i'm like i burst into the room i'm like chelsea can we talk and rubina's in there

[02:22:40] and i'm like rubina you have killed me and this guy you oh my god why why am i like because what was

[02:22:48] tossed my way was that like i expressed that i didn't appreciate that rubina keeps guilting me

[02:22:56] i'm like wanting to work with me like whatever but it's also like you know it was my actions that

[02:23:02] are causing this and so i'm just like dude i feel bad but like my logic is there like whatever

[02:23:08] and then all of a sudden it's like quinn's working with rubina that's what's been shared with me

[02:23:12] so i'm like trying to plea with chelsea and i'm like i'm not going after you i'm not gonna put you up

[02:23:19] i promise you i'm not targeting you i'm not targeting you and chelsea's just like it feels

[02:23:23] like i'm not your like priority which in my head i'm like oh do i have one person ahead of you in

[02:23:31] line chelsea there's a power trio right over here that is like they will die for each other like

[02:23:38] what do you mean and i'm just like i'm not here to talk about them i'm here to tell you right now

[02:23:42] this is not good for your game this is a waste of your hoh taking me out i'm not going after you

[02:23:48] there's no other in like option on the other side of the house they're coming after me i'm like

[02:23:52] trying my best but we literally just didn't have enough time and so you had chelsea at various points

[02:23:59] uh through the week um it really like it did go back and forth again like uh like um it really was

[02:24:09] like chelsea was probably your biggest supporter that week uh of the three of them um but uh but

[02:24:17] she ultimately decided to go with uh with you uh and did tell the cameras that she loved you and that

[02:24:22] she wanted to wingman for you and she was literally saying like hey you you know you women out there

[02:24:28] this this guy's great use code chelsea you know um and it was crazy because chelsea to me i was like

[02:24:38] she's got to be the hardest sell because obviously cam and mckenzie they don't have that relationship

[02:24:44] with the power three so i'm like let me sell the heck out of me staying for chelsea i offered her um

[02:24:52] like i'll never put you on the block and then if i win hoh you control my arena and i was like do you

[02:24:59] feel comfortable with that deal if you had to break the deal or if you had to break the tie

[02:25:03] whatever um my pitch to the unnamed five was you can use me as a pawn i'm not scared of that and

[02:25:11] because at the point like where pawns are necessary we all compete in the veto so i'm like you know

[02:25:18] but they don't know that um and so i'm just like that is a deal that you can't back out of and so i'm

[02:25:24] like you can put me up every single week after that and there will be no blood on your hands

[02:25:29] you're automatically filling one seat and so you should absolutely keep me i'm expressing to them

[02:25:34] that like yo they don't care about you i'm invested in your success i don't have any future with them i

[02:25:40] have to ride with you guys and so i thought that like chelsea was the hard sell there to me it made

[02:25:46] too much logical sense for mj and cam to want to keep me around cam specifically because it's like

[02:25:50] bro i'm the one guy who steps up for you when everyone's bullying you so come on yeah i mean it

[02:25:58] it was it it was one of those weeks where i felt like mj and cam were advocating against their

[02:26:04] interest and chelsea was advocating against her interest like it was just like why it should be

[02:26:09] this should be flipped this should be flipped um but uh there was a crack in this where i was like

[02:26:14] okay if quinn leaves i think that chelsea has this locked up except she did not handle leah very

[02:26:19] well initially um and leah was pissed that you went up on the block and was telling angela if i win

[02:26:25] i'm putting chelsea and t core on the block against each other and i was like wow like she that is

[02:26:35] exactly the move uh if she does that the entire game turns upside down um and then lo and behold

[02:26:46] we'll get there uh before then of course you are eventually voted out uh you walk outside and you're

[02:26:54] greeted with um what happened dude jerry o'connell crazy i couldn't believe it that's my dog um kangaroo

[02:27:05] jack which first of all now that i'm voted out and you can be unbiased how good were my eviction

[02:27:11] night speeches i i mean they i think they were good i mean you definitely pissed off tucker with one of

[02:27:17] them um he's never seen the movie holes found out nope um or the spongebob movie knucklehead mcdorkatron

[02:27:25] come on now um and then the second one i was so nervous but i thought that i thought my logic was

[02:27:30] there you know vote vote to keep me um so that i go home next week that to me makes sense um yeah i

[02:27:37] got to talk to jerry o'connell um people thought you would be upset that you didn't get to talk to julie

[02:27:43] i mean i was certainly disappointed that i didn't get to kick it with my homie julie

[02:27:46] but i knew that we were going to be friends in real life and hang out all the time so

[02:27:51] wasn't too stressed also i'm a huge kangaroo jack fan as everyone knows my letterbox got leaked while

[02:27:58] i was on the show and people were like why does he have five stars for kangaroo jack that was one of

[02:28:03] the first conversations i had with joseph he shared that he was a movie buff and during sequester

[02:28:08] he and i actually would order the same movies i i didn't know it was him obviously but i was like

[02:28:14] were you the guy that was stealing this this and he's like it was me uh which was a really cool

[02:28:19] thing um so seeing jerry o'connell i was like this is a real celebrity like oh my gosh um and then i

[02:28:25] also wasn't convinced he was a fan of the show i had not seen that he appeared on rob has a podcast

[02:28:30] so during the commercial break i was like you can be real with me you watch the show and he like

[02:28:35] looked disrespected and disrespected was like yes i i'm a fan of yours i'm shocked that

[02:28:41] you're here right now like a really cool guy um i saw some hate online he did a good job hosting i

[02:28:49] thought he did all right yeah uh you you then also just to skip ahead a little bit you then also had

[02:28:56] another uh shocking uh change in host uh for the jury round table um no more dr will uh taylor hale

[02:29:08] or as brooklyn might call her taylor hall yeah taylor hall um as a 34 year old married mother

[02:29:14] i was ecstatic you know well um i was losing my mind because and she even said sorry quinn like that

[02:29:21] i didn't get dr will and i'm like i am a taylor stan okay her presence in real life is crazy

[02:29:30] like i couldn't pick my jaw off the ground i'm like oh my gosh imagine entering the house with her

[02:29:36] this is absurd um and so i was just it was not shocking at all just because i feel like it made

[02:29:43] perfect sense yeah i also thought that dr will was gonna like big time me and be like you're a fan

[02:29:49] so therefore you're a loser like that was like not an uncommon thing that he does yeah and so i was

[02:29:56] like not super excited to have to like hold my own against dr will like i was obviously excited

[02:30:02] because he's a legend of the game he's like my second favorite winner like uh in like the goat

[02:30:07] talk like i and so i was disappointed but i was also like this is taylor this is a huge win for me

[02:30:14] like i feel comfortable talking about the game in front of her because i feel like she's not going to

[02:30:19] be like this guy he's a fan of the show what a nerd like you know it is what it is i was excited

[02:30:27] uh all right let's take one more quick break okay so you are voted out um i mean how did it feel

[02:30:38] because i think that you had to probably recognize that like especially after the joseph thing like

[02:30:44] your path to the end was pretty precarious so did it feel like like devastating or did it feel like

[02:30:51] ah yeah that's kind of figured i think that um after articulating all this value excuse me um i

[02:31:01] think that after articulating all the value that i can provide to people's games i had kind of

[02:31:05] gotten my hopes up just because i felt like i was cooking i thought that i did a great job of

[02:31:10] explaining why i should stay and then being able to get angela which is a shocking thing she's

[02:31:19] um leah went up to bat for me with angela and then in my conversation i'm like all i have to do

[02:31:25] is just pour my heart out to angela just articulate hey i love and appreciate you which is what i had

[02:31:31] done for rubina t-core and uh chemo that same week just because from my perspective i was like i know

[02:31:39] what's coming like whatever uh let me at least share with you what i think about you um so i did that

[02:31:46] with angela and then she turns it into a strategy talk and she says that if i give my word in front

[02:31:53] of leah that then she will vote for me to stay to which i responded okay as if i would care about

[02:32:00] breaking my word in front of leah i do not care at all like despite public whatever who cares not me

[02:32:08] um and so when it comes down to waiting for the votes i'm optimistic

[02:32:15] but my fingers are still crossed you know i'm a superstitious guy i wanted to stay

[02:32:19] and so i think that i tried to convince myself in the moment like you did it like it's gonna be okay

[02:32:25] and then it was like you know the walls are paper thin

[02:32:29] instantly they get torn down when i hear that i get voted out and so it was genuine disappointment

[02:32:34] i was super sad i was a little confused you know that same week everyone's saying that they want to

[02:32:39] kiss me and they want to marry me but they evicted me so it's like you guys are all lying in this game

[02:32:46] i didn't know that that was allowed um and so yeah i felt this overwhelming sense of like disappointment

[02:32:52] just because i knew that it wasn't best for well like from my perspective it wasn't best for chelsea's

[02:32:58] game and so i'm like this isn't even the most optimal move right now like if i went home and i had

[02:33:04] been like gunning after chelsea very publicly that to me would make sense if i didn't you know

[02:33:10] campaign hard enough then i would be like all right that's not my fault um but it was the fact

[02:33:17] that like chemo didn't even campaign until he saw that i did it and so i felt like i did all the work

[02:33:22] necessary and so when it didn't pay off i did feel like extremely disappointed by the situation

[02:33:29] um you know i got my my bracelet from rubina which i heard caused a lot of discourse like

[02:33:37] you know i'm sorry that in the moment someone's trying to put something on my wrist i'm like i'm

[02:33:42] good and then when i see that she's upset i'm like okay you can yeah all right thank you i appreciate

[02:33:51] it um i didn't even realize it said jury duty until i got to the hotel and then i just laughed out loud

[02:33:57] i'm like this lady is crazy right now but um that's iconic if it was meant to be malicious i

[02:34:04] would respect it way more but it was just like her being i don't know why she did that um but yeah i

[02:34:11] was pretty disappointed talking to jerry o'connell was a very cool experience just because he's so

[02:34:16] famous um and then he said that he was a fan of mine which i was like i have fans that's cool you

[02:34:22] know in the back of my head i'm like he probably would have told that to chemo too like of course

[02:34:26] uh he's a good host um but yeah it was just disappointment hearing that i got voted out

[02:34:33] mm-hmm um well as you mentioned before you got voted out there was some kissing drama a lot of people

[02:34:40] wanted to kiss you uh and uh and even uh a little conversation with leah about it um

[02:34:51] this was i think because like basically all season long up until the week before

[02:34:58] the narrative was quinn has a crush on leah she's dogging him in the house behind his back

[02:35:06] and then all of a sudden it was like she's she stopped dogging you uh

[02:35:12] and it was like oh well it's like okay maybe they're like chill now and then she was like

[02:35:18] yeah maybe i want to kiss you basically uh and and it was like oh my god

[02:35:31] crazy uh i think it was something along the lines of

[02:35:37] i mean i was like oh my god um yeah uh i i will say um that's crazy um yeah it was it was wild it is

[02:36:04] weird hearing that um in the moment though i did want to die when rubina was doing the like

[02:36:09] oh leah get in here thing i was like please stop please stop i was down to make out with rubina

[02:36:16] because i knew tucker would see it and so i was like i was like go ahead uh yeah and i was like

[02:36:22] you know who cares um so i was pushing for that uh and she was like oh you're scared whatever i was

[02:36:29] like do it what's up um and then it ended up not happening and then it got flipped on me which this is

[02:36:36] what i get for flying too close to the sun then that's when leah's called in there i felt like really

[02:36:41] embarrassed because i don't like the idea of like a public you know kiss kiss kiss where she feels

[02:36:48] pressured to do so you know um i in those interpersonal tight interpersonal relations like

[02:36:54] whatever i'm a huge i really like to ask like you know is it okay if i kiss you right now like

[02:37:02] just because that i like that um so even if we had kissed in that moment that not would not have

[02:37:10] been what i wanted uh like even though you know obviously i would like to but it's like i'm i'm

[02:37:16] thankful with the way that that was handled i'm happy that she just ran away i was like that is much

[02:37:21] better than like the awkwardness uncomfortability of her being in the bathroom and they're like do it

[02:37:28] do it i was like please stop i'm gonna throw up um and so then yeah talking to her in the pedal room

[02:37:34] we're talking about you know not even kissing but holding hands you know that's crazy you know we're

[02:37:40] out here big dogs eat wolf um yeah so you go to the jury house she eventually joins you

[02:37:53] on the show it it really like seems like it fizzles very quickly like you're both kind of like

[02:38:02] yeah we're friends yeah um i as i'm in the jury house and being like very conscious of like

[02:38:12] the exit press made me think something else was like being said behind like you know in the dr or

[02:38:19] something like i was like what did you guys show in the episode to where now all of a sudden you're

[02:38:23] asking about like a relationship with leah and like moving out to miami and stuff i'm like what

[02:38:28] like what are we talking about right now um so i was like being very intentional uh to not like

[02:38:34] romanticize her and try to provide a space where it's like nothing's expected then she gets in there

[02:38:40] and is like actually i did have a crush on quinn and i knew like whatever and i'm like what the heck

[02:38:47] is going on um and it's just like conversations pass and it's just like it's very public situation

[02:38:53] like you know um and then it's like you're on a show i did a lot of lying you know like we're not

[02:38:59] we don't know who we actually are in real life things like that and so just had a very mature

[02:39:04] conversation of like we're very comfortable with being friends and stuff like that and so

[02:39:08] that was kind of the experience we're just pals yeah um so obviously just to conclude this you get out of

[02:39:17] the house you find out probably a lot more i assume you didn't talk too much about it in the jury house

[02:39:24] you probably find out a lot more about like how she had been kind of dogging you throughout the season

[02:39:30] um how do you feel about it now do you because you you talked about like you know you were hurt at

[02:39:36] various points in the season when you found out about certain things um and like it's it it would

[02:39:42] have really hurt you were you hurt when you found out are you still hurt how do you know um i think

[02:39:48] that like at the end of the day like i have kind of stayed away from those clips just because like

[02:39:52] who wants to see that about themselves but if i made her feel uncomfortable in those moments i need to

[02:39:59] like own up to that and accept responsibility from my understanding you know i said that i would stop

[02:40:06] flirting with her and she said no that's okay and so that to me was like this over the top flirting

[02:40:11] is fine and she's comfortable with that and then behind closed doors she doesn't feel the same way

[02:40:16] that's an error of my communication that's not her responsibility to like track that and that's why

[02:40:23] that there was a like drop off and then all of a sudden it's like i'm hoh and then the flirting

[02:40:28] is back up in action where it feels a lot more like she's reciprocated whatever um so it certainly hurt

[02:40:35] my feelings but i knew that it wasn't coming from a malicious place i don't think that she would

[02:40:40] ever be mean to anyone on purpose like she is a good person she's very nice she's very sweet

[02:40:45] um and so my biggest regret is just that i made her feel that way in the house um and i need to like

[02:40:51] take responsibility for that um we vaguely talked about it and she's just like if you see things like

[02:40:57] i would do want to talk to you about it like that kind of thing and i that's kind of where it's at

[02:41:02] there's no ill will at all um i don't know like it's okay um she's my friend now so that's all that

[02:41:10] matters to me you know um that i i don't know if i could have any other greater opinion on that other

[02:41:16] than like you know it is what it is uh like you know yeah no and and like uh i i think that is

[02:41:26] the sort of like the only way that you can really feel about it which is that like you know i think

[02:41:32] that what will often happen and maybe you've seen this maybe you haven't is that like people will come

[02:41:38] out of the house and you'll hear from a lot of people who like will hold grudges for you and want

[02:41:45] you to hear all of the bad things and want you to be mad at the people they were mad at at the time

[02:41:51] and uh and like you don't have to be you don't have to be that way you all you all shared this

[02:41:58] experience together um this was a pretty tame cast in terms of like what you were doing in the game

[02:42:06] uh you know each person gets to decide like in what context they decide to take things but like

[02:42:12] you know you're all playing a game there's a lot of factors for why somebody might like be extra

[02:42:20] distrusting or uh suspicious of somebody and that could lead to like uh a different way of treating

[02:42:27] them and that they otherwise would and so on and so forth so like uh you know it's uh good to hear

[02:42:32] that you are just kind of like you know yeah it is what it is like there's no point in trying to like

[02:42:38] hold a grudge i i think that it'd be like kind of immature to do that um i think that realistically

[02:42:43] on our season all the worst bullying happened weeks one and two and so it's like other than that i feel

[02:42:52] like people were pretty well for the most part like some things were said about other people but i was

[02:42:58] very fortunate that the people who talk trash about me it wasn't that crazy you know tucker's calling me a

[02:43:05] snake fair enough you know like i can't be mad at that um it's just like for me i'm in a very fortunate

[02:43:13] position where people were really nice to me and so the one time like someone may have dogged me a

[02:43:20] little bit i don't really care because like at the end of the day i know who they are as a person

[02:43:25] i really like being around them they did offer like a security blanket for me within the house

[02:43:30] maybe not behind closed doors but that's who they were in front of me there are multiple times where

[02:43:35] i was down pretty badly that leah went to me and talked to me and uplifted me like she didn't have

[02:43:41] to do that and so i think if anyone wants to be angry on my behalf uh don't because i don't want

[02:43:48] you to um you know if you're a fan of mine then that means you're a fan of leah's that's all that

[02:43:53] matters uh quinions and leah's loons is a circle okay so you can hop off like whatever high horse

[02:44:00] being upset on my behalf i'm not a delicate flower that needs to be protected i have my own

[02:44:06] like thorns and i can defend myself and if i felt some type of way about it then i would speak that

[02:44:12] way but that doesn't give you permission or you know anyone to feel that on my behalf so that's

[02:44:18] what's really important to me well said quinn well said uh although i have an issue with you his name's

[02:44:24] taron he rock climbs so i'm hoping oh you're a rock climber i'm hoping that we're boys after i can't

[02:44:30] uh probably not i i much like joseph i can tell i would be the kind of person to get under his skin

[02:44:36] which is disappointing because i watch his videos like every day but yeah he just like watches

[02:44:47] hell yeah you call me nerdy you act like i'm this elitist that's not gonna want to hang out with you

[02:44:55] like uh what is this quinn i'm a very exhausting person and so i just assumed you know you're a

[02:45:01] little bit more reserved just from what i've seen on screen maybe behind or you know in real life

[02:45:07] you're you're really out there but um i i just feel like i'd be grating listen i know that i like

[02:45:15] i know that i give off a lot of alpha vibes but in real life it's like even harder you know what i mean

[02:45:20] you're like a sigma you know it's like you're so alpha you become sigma i get it man and it's like

[02:45:28] you know what what grade uh do you rock climb at uh i probably like v6 v7 would be but i don't do a

[02:45:39] lot of actually graded climbs uh because i mostly do slap what they call slab lab uh which is like

[02:45:46] it's numbered from one to like how the the heart like easiest to hardest um so that's i'm so this is

[02:45:53] this is what i will tell you i'm probably like a v6 v7 slab climber and more like a v4 v5 like

[02:46:01] overhang cave climber okay okay are you flying out to nebraska or what mw climbing i like know the

[02:46:08] owners you know the owner but do they have a slab lab they do yeah yeah it's like where that's when

[02:46:16] it has the or no yeah you did a series i didn't realize that that was slab lab uh no they have

[02:46:25] comp routes and stuff like that where it's ranked like that yeah and it's just like easy medium and

[02:46:30] hard um so maybe we'll get you out there for one of the competition days but you know the weather here

[02:46:37] is better or what if we meet in the middle we go to nashville and then we force cory to go rock

[02:46:44] climbing and then there's a rock climbing already forced cortical climbing did you know this yeah

[02:46:48] yeah i heard that uh i heard about that so i'm like okay you know we could pull up oh man that's

[02:46:56] listen you're you're coming over to the west coast uh all the time now right yeah yeah i was on the am

[02:47:01] track recently it was pretty crazy um it was yeah yeah i was there for a halloween party it was a

[02:47:07] good time um i got to hang out with jag i got to hang out with taylor um i got to hang out with

[02:47:15] lisa like just the three big names and uh big brother right now um yeah there you go um what's uh

[02:47:24] what what climbing grade do you climb um the like v v6 i haven't climbed to v6 yet so v4 v5

[02:47:36] i'm in there like swimwear but i can't i haven't beaten the v6 yet it is a tough jump uh what i will

[02:47:44] say is that i climbed when i was in new york for the live show and i was crushing like eights and i was

[02:47:51] like whoa am i good at climbing i'm pretty sure they just grade really easy compared to where i am here

[02:47:56] but like uh it made me feel very talented okay okay we'll get you out here in the corn coast we'll

[02:48:04] see what kind of grades you have over uh in your neck of the woods sir yeah i heard from what i've heard

[02:48:11] they're like oh you climb at mw you must be really strong that's what my friend foster told me so there

[02:48:17] you go brooke rabbit two climbs at the gym i climbed or climbed when she was here brooke rabbit two uh silver

[02:48:23] medalist yeah give me grippers that's my dnd character and it sends them off all right i'm out

[02:48:32] there all right uh let's talk jury yes you get to the jury house um you're of course met uh by various

[02:48:43] people as they come along uh can you just like walk me through the story of your time on the jury

[02:48:52] so for the first week um i journaled every single day i did not talk to the sequester managers that

[02:48:59] much i was like leave me alone but i didn't cry as much as i wanted to like literally i i move in

[02:49:07] i put all my stuff in uh the master bedroom or the the primary bedroom i walked down the steps two

[02:49:15] steps sit down weep into my hands twice i'm like and then it's gone it would just evaporate from my

[02:49:25] body um and then i would just uh journal non-stop and so i wrote about every single person um three pages

[02:49:36] each i did i wrote about every single hoh competition two pages each i wrote about i did the days just in

[02:49:46] case there was a battle back and i got back in there i would be well studied um i wrote about

[02:49:52] every single power veto two pages i would daily journal um i ranked i wrote about every single

[02:50:02] final movie this is my final official final two power ranking um yeah you know seven of them pretty good

[02:50:15] and then um let's see i got autographs from the crew i wrote about every single alliance that i was

[02:50:24] knowledgeable about um that's a two pager uh what else oh i wrote about my exit

[02:50:32] press and wrote like what i thought was happening on the show in my head i was like rubina must be

[02:50:39] like a very big narrator because everyone keeps asking me about this bracelet it's not that big of

[02:50:45] a deal um i got autographs from the from the cast i organized a big brother 25 and 26 boxing match

[02:50:54] like schedule um a lot of important work being done here i wrote about the second like each juror that

[02:51:02] would come in i would ask a lot of questions um this is like after t core is voted out oh my gosh um

[02:51:13] this is me like trying to color code like what would happen uh if they won hoh like i was just

[02:51:21] spiraling for information um and then that that's that's what i did on the start watching movies with

[02:51:30] t core showing her stranger things if you didn't know tucker was almost billy from stranger things

[02:51:35] season two um and so we were watching that with the context of like this guy should be tucker right now

[02:51:42] okay not that really good actor who got it instead it should be tucker because we know him um nothing too

[02:51:49] crazy uh losing my mind just more people got in there obviously uh uh and then let's see

[02:52:02] the day of the round table we're sitting around at breakfast and angela is gonna is just like

[02:52:12] guys let's make good tv today let's not take things personal like things are gonna be said

[02:52:18] and whatever and as she's teeing this up i'm like oh i'm gonna be verbally assaulted today

[02:52:25] is that she's not warning us to like you know hey leah just heads up if i say something that

[02:52:30] hurts your feelings no she's talking about me um it was interesting witnessing like people's narratives

[02:52:36] like kind of shifted very you know minds plagued by like hindsight this is like not throwing stone but

[02:52:42] all of a sudden everyone was like a master strategist and i was like i feel comfortable saying i was dumb

[02:52:46] like i don't know um like angela got in there and she let us know that she like uh tricked all of

[02:52:54] us the whole season and that she was playing us she said that uh she kept talking about adopt how

[02:53:01] she's gonna adopt chemo and i was like that's a 36 year old man with gray hair i don't think he's

[02:53:07] looking for an a mom um i think he already has one uh they're just wildness um yeah strategically

[02:53:19] what was the conversation throughout like as people were coming in um i know for a fact me and t core on

[02:53:28] the same wavelength of wanting chelsea to succeed from like start to finish we weren't allowed to talk

[02:53:34] about like who we were gonna vote for but just in talking about what had happened previous to our

[02:53:39] evictions um we both had a an appreciation for chelsea's game um i know for a fact leah was impressed

[02:53:48] with chelsea like um chemo would have won if he was at the end while i like and i was saving my

[02:54:02] talking points for the round table i was like all right that is wild because my draft team consisted

[02:54:08] of cam mckenzie and chemo and i came so close in so many different freaking ways you could have

[02:54:15] instead you let puya snatch me up all right my dog which by the way you guys were all so shocked to be

[02:54:22] like well apparently he's athletic do i not get that vibe come on i'm athletic as hell 452 mile

[02:54:32] dual sport collegiate athlete you guys are like i don't know hard to say um i'm just kidding but

[02:54:38] chemo for sure would have won which i was like i was ready to go to war um a jury like and i really

[02:54:46] like chemo i just felt like he didn't have a winning game it also depended who was sitting next to of

[02:54:51] course but like chemo versus chelsea how does that go well chelsea t core probably votes for chelsea i

[02:55:01] vote for chelsea um mckenzie votes for chelsea cam votes for chelsea so uh and then i i don't know

[02:55:10] it's also like realistically the round table i feel like did kind of just open the door of like

[02:55:15] this is who we should probably celebrate the win with um so i have no idea how that round table

[02:55:22] would have gone but it was very interesting like the anti chelsea specifically from like angela was wild

[02:55:31] like she was like she lied on me she said that i tried to uh she said that i threw leah under the bus but i

[02:55:38] threw quinn under the bus and so she kept saying this in the jury house and i'm just sitting on it

[02:55:43] i'm like just wait quinn like just wait so then we get to the round table and she brings it up again

[02:55:51] chelsea lied on me and i was like whether you whether it was leah or me that you threw under the bus

[02:55:58] you did that you still like whatever whatever with with leah you still threw her under the bus because

[02:56:05] you said she was a part of this alliance you did that not chelsea and then i tried to get into further

[02:56:10] my point of like her telling a lie say you know if it was a lie um by saying it's leah that shows

[02:56:18] that she has a thorough understanding of the landscape of the house that we would believe

[02:56:22] that you angela threw people under the bus but then there was a plane that flew over and they're

[02:56:26] like okay let's refocus the conversation so i didn't get to finish letting it sing but yeah i

[02:56:33] had a good time at the round table you know turn it up was there any talk because we talked a lot

[02:56:39] about this was there any talk of like whoever is the person to cut chelsea we might vote for them

[02:56:47] like say if cam cuts chelsea and takes mj or something along those lines does that give cam any

[02:56:54] credit the comparison with or like the the metaphor that i used with cam voting out uh i was the only

[02:57:02] pro cam person uh in there nobody else would have ever considered voting for him um uh it is what

[02:57:10] it is like i understand his game is of abstract and kind of hard to understand and like maybe he's

[02:57:14] not as active as other people like he was called a floater which i didn't think was fair because

[02:57:18] he's in a million and one alliances like he has aura socially like angela kept calling him a floater

[02:57:23] which is like what the heck um but i said that him voting out chelsea is like you drive off the

[02:57:33] side of a cliff and you if he wins that final hoh and cuts chelsea it's like him throwing a grappling

[02:57:39] hook and you just have to hope that it latches on to something and he gets the win but i think that

[02:57:45] people saw mckenzie's comp wins and that is like a more direct hand in their eviction so they respected

[02:57:52] it more like i think that cam came off as too nonchalant throughout the season and so i don't

[02:57:58] know how much win equity he truly had what about like uh if like rubina or chemo because they were

[02:58:04] actually uh planning according to what they were talking about to cut chelsea uh in the end if

[02:58:10] they had the ability to um it sounds like they probably would have beat cam but what if they had

[02:58:15] either one of chemo or rubina had cut chelsea to take uh mckenzie chemo wins rubina i have a hard time

[02:58:25] just because strategically i wasn't sure how involved she was in things i'm not sure if i this is like me

[02:58:33] being really cocky but i feel like i would have been able to control a lot of the conversation in the

[02:58:39] round table on who the vote was going to go for and i'm picturing i'm not picturing myself voting for

[02:58:45] rubina over someone like mckenzie who you know had her like strategic shortcomings but she still was a

[02:58:52] bit more active i feel like throughout the season i don't know um that's it it sounds like the there

[02:59:00] wasn't a lot of consideration for like if you cut chelsea you get a lot of credit it sounds like it was

[02:59:05] just still kind of like well whoever's sitting there will judge them yeah that's kind of the vibe

[02:59:10] that i got interesting wow um okay anything else from the jury um let's see the jury house like

[02:59:26] i had my birthday in there and man i was i was not in a good place mentally i was like

[02:59:35] like leading up to my birthday i was crushed i was like this sucks dude um but it is what it is

[02:59:42] a lot of people were very and i'll admit like the closer we got to the to the leave date the more

[02:59:48] stir crazy i was going um people like when they got voted out we're like oh thank goodness that's

[02:59:56] over and like i was still super disappointed that i got voted out and so while i understood that they

[03:00:02] could appreciate the break i like couldn't i was like no dude i want to get back in there and play

[03:00:07] i was like were you not having fun like i had a very difficult path in the game but i was having the

[03:00:14] time of my life just because i was like this is such a fun game to play and so yeah i really struggled

[03:00:20] personally everyone else seemed pretty well adjusted which i was happy for them um

[03:00:26] yeah it was a good time all right what about what about after the show after it ends chelsea wins

[03:00:31] confetti top three afp i want to say i i called that really i did uh toward toward the end of your

[03:00:45] your run i felt like your edit started to get really like hero-y and i was like i feel like quinn has a

[03:00:52] shot at top three and people like you're crazy taryn uh they voted him on the block they're like

[03:01:00] tucker's gone let's start being nice to him i don't know um yeah i mean i was i was super thankful oh

[03:01:06] that's something about the jury house angela was very like she thought she was gonna get it um and i

[03:01:13] was hoping that wasn't the case because i was like tucker makes sense like i like that makes sense to me

[03:01:18] we had also kind of gotten the idea that like mckenzie would be a great person to root for as a fan

[03:01:24] because she was on the block constantly she's winning competitions like like to me i was like

[03:01:30] he's kind of got like the grounds of someone who could be very appreciated by the like fans um

[03:01:37] yeah i was super thankful to make it top three um once i got my phone back realizing how bad things

[03:01:46] were for me it made me appreciate um the people oh wow um yeah it just made me very thankful um

[03:01:55] the people who like were going out in masses like my day one quinnions the people who

[03:02:00] you know i was called a lot of disrespectful things i received a lot of death threats i like you know

[03:02:06] crazy stuff was happening and i still get those messages which is fine but it's like

[03:02:11] um getting top three with that context meant a lot meaning that like the people who were out there

[03:02:18] and voting are very sweet and i really appreciate it um on stage i was just like yo they said my name

[03:02:25] because in my head it was always going to be tucker like he is so perfect for this show he may have

[03:02:30] wanted to quit all the time but like he's great tv and no one can deny that so i was really happy for him

[03:02:38] to get afp you know yeah uh okay so show's over uh any any other like stories or like experiences from

[03:02:51] the post show that you want to talk about oh gosh um do you have any in mind specifically that you're

[03:02:58] referencing or no i don't know i was just like what i don't know what's what's life like for you uh

[03:03:02] post show right now um so the show ends got a lot of love while in la like tucker had four birthday

[03:03:11] parties it was so sick um it got to take a lot of pictures that a lot of fans um just having my phone

[03:03:21] is a lot my phone like regularly overheats and then i it just dies so then i have to like restart it all

[03:03:28] the time uh just because the everything is so positive i'm looking into like becoming a twitch

[03:03:34] streamer uh so i would love to figure that side of things out um yeah i just really want to capitalize

[03:03:43] on this while honoring the community that's uplifting me i'm a huge fan of the show and so like right now

[03:03:49] like people from survivor are reaching out to me and i'm like that's crazy shout out my dog teeny

[03:03:55] and soul like uh oh my gosh soul is from oklahoma too so i messaged him um zeke is also from oklahoma

[03:04:03] and so i sent him a message like i reached out to those two um and i just expressing like hey you guys

[03:04:10] are awesome and zeke apparently watched me play big brother which was like a really cool experience

[03:04:17] for me um teeny watch and they reached out to me which i was like oh my god that's cool um

[03:04:22] um so that's been very surreal i'm looking to like meet as many like prior players um i want to connect

[03:04:30] with the community as much as possible like that's my main focus being like an influencer i feel like

[03:04:37] i don't know if i've got that dog in me i don't know if i'm that neat but i'm gonna try you know get

[03:04:42] some get my money up uh those are kind of the things on the docket ahead of me um yeah i'm just very

[03:04:49] thankful for the opportunity but more than anything the feedback from everyone it's been like

[03:04:54] outrageously positive and the people that have like spread hate in my direction they can kick rocks

[03:05:01] all right because they can't compete when they can't compare so they can live with their own lives uh or

[03:05:06] live with the fact that they'll never be me and that's tough uh you know um yeah it's been it's been

[03:05:13] very very great being in the real world you know yeah well uh quinn it it's it's so nice talking to

[03:05:22] you you uh you know the game did not play out the way that you hoped uh you know it happens um but

[03:05:33] what i really appreciate about you many things really um but one of the things is that uh you know a you're

[03:05:40] a very good sport uh and you're you're not you know sitting here being like no no here's why

[03:05:45] nominating joseph was a good idea um but but also like you genuinely are and you we talked about this

[03:05:53] but like you are such a positive force and i can completely understand why so many people connected

[03:05:58] with you in the house uh immediately um just like uh you're very easy to talk to uh like i'm i'm like

[03:06:07] messaging with you about doing this uh interview and you're like uh sending me voice memos and

[03:06:14] like what's up man uh it's very it's very nice and um and it's it's really cool to see somebody like

[03:06:25] you get on the show be such a a fan and somebody who really takes the experience uh with a whole heart

[03:06:32] um and uh and like takes it as much as possible and enjoys it as much as possible

[03:06:38] and uh and plays the game hard but with no hard feelings and so uh it was it was really cool uh

[03:06:45] chatting with you and getting to watch you in the show so so thank you quinn oh my goodness thank you

[03:06:49] so much that means a lot coming from you uh i really do look up to you i think that you're like

[03:06:54] insight on the show and like rob has a podcast in general is a very positive program i appreciate

[03:07:01] that yes despite the name change it but now we're in too deep it's like now it's a conglomerate so

[03:07:08] it kind of works so annoying um but it's like to me this like your guys's coverage of reality tv

[03:07:17] is very positive and it feels like you're trying to uplift people rather than you know going on reality

[03:07:23] tv is a very insecure process and you're putting yourself out there and instead of using that as

[03:07:28] an opportunity to just tear down anyone and everyone um i feel like like you guys are just really good

[03:07:34] about uplifting people and so i'm thankful to have been asked out today and then listen guys you can

[03:07:42] say i was messy but at least i was cognizant of that okay and imagine if chemo doesn't like sell me

[03:07:49] out for whatever reason tucker and i link up for realsies the underdogs exist now all of a sudden

[03:07:57] i'm the greatest player of all time all right i was trying to i was trying to play step aside mr

[03:08:03] geasley yeah dan get out of my face dude like um i i hope the fans appreciate that i wanted to play

[03:08:11] in a very big bodacious way you know um a majority alliance that's a snooze fest okay i i saw your

[03:08:19] tweets in my head i was like i can already tell they're like oh wrap up the season that we've got

[03:08:24] all these great competitors so i'm like let me change the narrative um i'm just kidding but yes

[03:08:30] thank you so much for everything thank you for featuring me today i really appreciate it all right

[03:08:34] well that is what we have for you then on the quinn deep dive it did in fact happen what happened dude

[03:08:43] it did happen um and uh i'm sure we will talk more in the future quinn absolutely man uh everyone

[03:08:52] pull up december 4th do you know what i'm talking about are you talking about the live show yeah

[03:09:00] is that the fourth i'm not sure so i don't think i'm gonna be there so what the heck are you avoiding

[03:09:07] me what the heck i'm gonna be in texas all right check your calendars pull up rob has a podcast r h a p

[03:09:14] quinn's there all right there you go get my line buy a cameo from me that's what i should plug buy a

[03:09:22] cameo they're good they're like seven minutes long oh wow yeah it's value that's very long yeah uh

[03:09:29] go to the live show hang out with quinn and uh tell him he needs to come to san diego that's

[03:09:36] i'm down to clinton i'm in there like swimmer all right uh i'll be back with more postseason coverage

[03:09:43] i have locked in with chelsea so uh we'll be talking with chelsea about her winning game

[03:09:50] of big brother 26 so stay tuned for that um and uh and stay tuned in the offseason we'll keep uh

[03:09:57] we'll keep some big brother stuff coming out for you as well so uh thank you all so much for

[03:10:03] joining us here today uh if you want to find me on twitch you can i'll be watching survivor live

[03:10:09] and big brother when that happens and hey maybe i'll be streaming with quinn at some point uh so uh

[03:10:14] find me over there and check out all the other podcasts i got going on scripted shows uh we we

[03:10:20] the tastemakers talk about what you should be watching um and all that good stuff so uh thank you

[03:10:26] all one more time joining us for this very deep dive and i will see all of you next time