Today, Taran and Kirsten recap the live feeds from day 4 of Big Brother 26.[00:00:00] Every morning, Taryn Armstrong, Toxic Brother, looking at the stuff from yesterday. All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from P.O. to H.O.H.
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[00:00:42] Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for July 20th. I'm your host Taryn Armstrong and we are here today to talk about everything that happened yesterday on the Big Brother 26 live feeds. And with me today is Kirsten. How you doing Kirsten?
[00:01:05] I'm doing great Taryn. For a day this messy with so little information, completely solid and cemented, you needed a mess magnet. So I'm here. I heard the call. You're attracting all the mess with the magnet and it's stuck to all of us. You're welcome.
[00:01:32] We are here again to talk about what happened yesterday on the Big Brother 26 live feeds. It was the second day of feeds, first full day of feeds. And there's quite a significant amount of things to talk about. It was day four in the house.
[00:01:53] And I think literally as we started this podcast, they're already up and I think Angela is doing even more. Yeah, they got a 7am wake up call, which means that Matt and MJ got approximately five minutes of sleep. Angela has had no sleep.
[00:02:09] And according to the chat, because I don't have the feeds open right now, Angela's having a full on meltdown fighting with Matt. So that'll be fun for tomorrow's update.
[00:02:21] Yeah, literally the tweet to announce that this podcast is going live was immediately followed by and my fear, at least Mike Bloom, all caps turn on feeds. Angela's going off on. Well, I just think that the players on Big Brother 26 should have a better understanding of what time.
[00:02:45] We have our updates because the same right and if this continues, I'll be furious as the rest of the season moves on. But honestly, at this point, I like I wish I could call my mom and be like, come and get me. I'm scared. Yeah.
[00:03:02] OK, so listen, here's what here's what we're going to do, right? We're starting this podcast with Angela's going off on Matt on the morning of day five. How did we get here? Records scratch. You might be wondering how we got here.
[00:03:23] Well, let's flashback to the morning of day four. Hey, I'm not ready to hear about flashbacks. It's too soon. Oh, no. People are like, Darren, where do you think I am right now? I genuinely I'm sorry. What is how many years have you been doing this now?
[00:03:45] Come on. Every morning, Taryn Armstrong is breaking down what happened yesterday. Come on. Let's go. Here's the really annoying thing, too, is that like I think normally people would be like, whatever.
[00:03:57] Like, oh, you know, I'll watch the update and then I'll go and I'll flashback to the big thing. But I think people genuinely. Well, listen, we get it. We get it. If you need to watch Angela right now, we get it.
[00:04:13] But you can all you can come back to the update. Watch this portion later. Listen, Taryn's a robot. He has his ways. He's going to plug straight into the mainframe and he will get the information for tomorrow's update. Do not worry.
[00:04:29] I apologize to anyone not watching in real time because I just have a feed up of Angela standing. She's standing, you know, the stairs kind of come this way and then then they go up. Right. So she's standing at the top of the first section of stairs.
[00:04:48] Like like this, like she is like preaching to a group of like most seemingly most of the house in the kitchen. Just kind of like what's happening? Like they're all just kind of sitting watching her and she's standing up there like pointing and like, like, like it's wild.
[00:05:09] It's wild. I truly wild that the current H.O.H. is currently monologuing about how if her game's over, her game's over. Like a week is long in the big brother house. You don't have to do all this. I will say so just to the gestures she's doing.
[00:05:33] She just did this. Why? What is happening? I'm I can't wait to to get the full tea on this, but we have to go back there and we have to go back. Okay. All right, let's go back. Let's go back. So genuinely, how did we get here?
[00:05:59] There's a lot. There's a lot to talk about. Obviously, I think let's let's try it.
[00:06:06] I guess let's try and focus on Angela and let's let's do like Angela's journey through the day because she kind of I think if we I think if we talk about Angela and remove her from the rest of the story. Things get a lot simpler.
[00:06:22] So so let's so let's talk about Angela's journey because she's kind of in her own world. So the last time we spoke, Angela was the H.O.H. She still is. She's planning on nominating chemo, Lisa and Kenny with Kenny as the target. I'm so mad. I'm missing.
[00:06:48] I know I I'm not happy. So I'm just like, okay, let's get this moving so we can go back to it. Or do we pause the podcast? Do we just watch it right now as a as a class? I think we're stuck.
[00:07:08] I think we'll I think we'll do this. Well, we will recap what is happening here tomorrow. I'm so jealous of your Sunday update. We could this just would not work as a podcast if we did commentary.
[00:07:24] It would work as a stream, but I apologize to those watching live. But I think for the sake of the listeners and the future watchers, we must forge forward. Martyrs, Terrence. Literally. So let me let me pull up the graphic here. I need to turn.
[00:07:50] Yeah, I could just do it. I believe in you. We're going to be okay. She plans to nominate Kenny chemo, Lisa, Kenny as the target because he is the consensus, right? The consensus. The structure of things was basically that Angela has her group of nine that she wants
[00:08:15] to create. And Matt was locked in the pantry doing his own thing, trying to create his own kind of group. Although according to him, it's that everyone wants to work with him. And he's just trying to deal with it all yet to take him.
[00:08:32] It's like, oh, I just I don't want to organize anything. I don't want to be in charge of assembling an alliance. But oh my God, people just like me so much and they want to work with me so bad. Like I'm trapped in the store.
[00:08:44] I can't possibly leave the storage room because everyone keeps coming to me. And it's like, sure, Jan. Yes, that's kind of where things were set up. And Angela had gotten a little paranoid about Matt and his storage room hijinks.
[00:09:02] And so she was trying to talk to a few different people about that. And left and right, she was kind of being shut down to some degree. She was being calmed down like, hey, maybe we shouldn't be too concerned about Matt.
[00:09:16] And so the plan stayed for the initial nominees and and for Kenny. So in the morning. Throughout there throughout the morning, I should say. Some more events were happening in line with this storyline. The Angela versus Matt kind of thing.
[00:09:38] In particular, we had more conversations with with Chelsea. Now, Chelsea is an important figure through the day because she was included in many of the conversations with Matt and Mackenzie in the storage room, but is also in the Angela group.
[00:10:00] Despite being downgraded, she's in a lot of ears and she was one of the voices that was like kind of calming Angela down, but also like trying to make sure she didn't get kind of in trouble for being in the Matt storage room.
[00:10:18] But I think throughout the day, she becomes more and more convinced that I think she wants to like remove or take the actual shot at Matt and Mackenzie. And so she basically fully informs Angela about some of the things
[00:10:36] that were happening in in both the pantry and also prior to the pantry where Mackenzie was talking a lot about her and her relationship with Angela. And so, you know, there was a lot of heat that was being built
[00:10:50] in the direction of Matt and Mackenzie, mostly by Chelsea. Joseph joins the conversation as well. Joseph also, I think, is still trying to get heat off of Matt and he was happy to put it on to Mackenzie.
[00:11:04] And so but but this is this is building here in the morning. Yes. And just because I didn't get to speak on this, I'm going to say it again. Yes. And just because I didn't get to speak on the first night of feeds,
[00:11:17] like with the honestly the words per minute for people like Mackenzie and Matt, it is truly so wild that we're living in a universe where they are not the most cracked people in this house. So there was talk about changing the nominations,
[00:11:36] maybe putting one of them up, maybe putting both of them up. And, you know, for a second there, it looked like it might happen. But there's another thing that we haven't even discussed yet, which is that we've learned more about the formatting of at least this week,
[00:11:55] likely many more weeks to come. And that was kind of getting in their way. So here's how we think things work. You may notice on the graphic if you're watching that there and we've talked about it three nominees. Yes, because that's always worked so well.
[00:12:15] I mean, they keep going back to the well for some reason. Truly three nominees. Why this is how we believe the week will work. Angela nominates three people. Those three people pick three more people to play in the veto. We are relatively convinced that the H.O.H.
[00:12:38] is likely not going to play in the veto, although I'm not entirely sure that's completely locked in. But we believe that to be the case. Either way, it's a fairly regular veto competition. Somebody who gets picked could win it and use it on somebody.
[00:12:56] Somebody who's nominated could use it on themselves. And if somebody comes off the block, somebody gets replaced. So there will remain three players on the block post veto. But you can still win the veto yourself or get saved by the veto like normal.
[00:13:13] After the veto competition and the veto ceremony, there are still three people on the block. Then they do the AI arena, which is, I believe, a virtual arena. It's a three person competition between the three nominees where the winner removes themselves from the block.
[00:13:37] So the AI arena will allow one of the three nominees to save themselves, which will leave two nominees at the end of the week. And you can then vote one of those two nominees out of the game. That is roughly how it works.
[00:13:56] Every time I hear AI arena, all I can think of is like when the actual like sporting venues get named after companies. So I'm just like, OK, what is that? The Staples Center? I don't understand. Yeah. So there's plenty we can talk about in terms of this format.
[00:14:22] I think this update is packed enough. We don't need to go into details analyzing it. I'm sure we'll do that on roundtables and recaps and stuff. So we'll save the commentary for later. But that is how we believe things will roughly go.
[00:14:38] And what that means for this potential idea of targeting Matt or McKenzie is that they decide it's not really worth it to make a big move here. There's too many things that can go wrong. There's too many different ways that Matt or McKenzie could save themselves.
[00:14:56] If we put one on the block, then between the veto and the AI arena, it would be so easy for one of them to come off, for both of them to come off. It's just really hard to pinpoint a target on somebody.
[00:15:10] So let's just focus on our previous plan, which was Kenny, Lisa and Kimo with Kenny as the target. That's going to still be the idea. And then maybe we can do something down the line with all of the various potential replacement nominees.
[00:15:27] But quite frankly, even then, because the AI arena comes last, you might be a little hesitant to do something like that. It's so frustrating because we talk every single season about how the twists don't work to advantage the underdogs
[00:15:45] in the way that the game, they seem to present it as, oh, these twists are going to help the underdogs. They're going to help the smaller minority, blah, blah, blah. They never do. And all they do is instill fear in players from actually making the moves
[00:16:00] that they would maybe want to make, maybe in another universe. Angela's noms would be more like BBCAN 5, Karen's noms for week one. But we will never know because there's just too much crap thrown at the wall immediately that presents, like prevents things from actually happening,
[00:16:18] which would be entertaining. Yes. And it also, for what it's worth, seems to make it a lot harder to change your mind halfway through. If Angela nominates, as you can see, Kenny, Kimo and Lisa wants to change your mind, maybe do some kind of backdoor.
[00:16:35] That's a lot harder to do, whether intentional from the start or in a changing your mind situation, because sure, you could take one down, put Matt on the block as a replacement, but he can still compete in the AI arena and he will only be competing
[00:16:52] against the other two nominees. He has a one in three chance of saving himself. So like it's a very difficult situation to target somebody like Matt in this spot. It's a lot harder, at least. So the plan gets shot down.
[00:17:08] Angela ends up again, as you can see, nominating Kenny, Kimo and Lisa. Kenny is her target. That is who she would like to take out of the game. Now worth noting, she did not give them a heads up
[00:17:22] that they would be going on the block as you normally might. Just absolutely wild to me that these people are blindsided by being nominated. Yes. And Lisa in particular took it pretty poorly, which kind of set Angela off a little bit.
[00:17:43] And there was a bit of, you know, back and forth about that. Kimo kind of took it very well. Overall, tried to be like, you know, Kimo's game right now is a very social one, not a very like strategically forward one
[00:18:00] at the moment. And so Kimo tried to, you know, remain likable and affable and so forth. Still not much from him on the feeds in general. And then Kenny took it a little hard as well, but also tried to stay focused.
[00:18:21] It was really Lisa that kind of like really kicked out of a cannon for being nominated. Well, Lisa never thought she would be nominated the entire game, let alone week one. So this was a big shock to her. Truly. Can you imagine like, yeah, I'm basically Derek Levasseur.
[00:18:40] Wait, what? Like, what did she think she was going to be? Derek and Cody all wrapped up in one. I don't understand. But I just think it's so funny to hear the verbatim words. Oh, I just never thought I would go on the block.
[00:18:55] Yeah. So, so Angela talks more with Lisa later and they, you know, after Lisa's calmed down a little bit and they work things out, they hash things out a little bit more. But like the thing is,
[00:19:12] the thing that you have to understand about Angela is that there is no hashing things out with her. Like there is no steady state with Angela that she will, she will be fluctuating regardless of what conversations you have. Yeah. Angela's at like an emotional 20.
[00:19:37] And so it's very difficult to calmly move past something. She's in just like a really high alert state. And I don't, I don't think the first HOH was a good thing for her. I don't know.
[00:19:54] We might be seeing a massive shift in the meta of the game because I think only extremely qualified players are actually going to be good for the first HOH at this point in time. We've seen too many people that are not ready for the pressure.
[00:20:10] Don't realize how long a week isn't a big brother. Just totally fumble, crumble, crash and burn. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when we did the like first HOH analysis podcast a few years ago, the main takeaway was if you have a successful first HOH,
[00:20:33] you do have a pretty significant like statistical bump in your chances to do well in the game. If you have like a bad HOH, like you're basically like your plan doesn't happen was the qualification there, but you could certainly extrapolate from there and say like a more
[00:20:55] disastrous, the worse, then things are actually worse for you. And so we, yeah, we've definitely gotten some disastrous first HOHs lately. Well, I think it's also part of it is considering the other people you're in
[00:21:14] the house with, because I feel like if it's a generally calm group of people, maybe it's easier to exert the power and have a relatively calm, easy week. You get your plan, everything's fine. But if it is a group of people that are,
[00:21:30] I think Steena Nitz calls them rabid gamer squirrels. Then it's a little bit harder to have your plan go exactly right and end up without a target on your back at the end of that week. And we've had some extremely active gamer squirrels the last few years.
[00:21:49] Yes. And, and for what it's worth also, like there's a whole discussion here, but like first HOH used to be like up to two weeks. Long, which was, I think an even greater advantage. And that has been limited a little bit, but either way,
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[00:23:07] Made for Germany. Powered by Shopify. Now Angela's going to have a lot of other conversations, but I want to just kind of like take you into Angela's, what I believe to be Angela's headspace. Because remember, theoretically the house is divided. It's Angela's group and it's Matt's group.
[00:23:32] And she's become more and more convinced that Matt is a threat to her, but she feels like she can't really go after him at the moment. So she would love to neutralize the threat by talking to him more
[00:23:48] and making a deal with him and feeling better about him and so on and so forth. But she also is trying to hold on to her own numbers. And the issue is that while she was very right to be paranoid about Matt
[00:24:04] hanging out in the pantry for three and a half hours the night before, that was not an isolated incident of suspicion for Angela. It turns out that pretty much anytime anybody has any kind of suspicion in a conversation for any amount of time,
[00:24:26] she believes that they are conspiring against her and that they are now like her enemies. And so that is going to start to manifest itself throughout the day, particularly after the nominations where she starts to feel like I saw Joseph talking to Matt.
[00:24:46] I saw Leah talking to these people. She starts to really feel like all of these people are no longer with. Cam was talking to these people over there. Matt, he's gathering his numbers. He's flipping people and they're all against me now. I don't have them.
[00:25:07] The nine is dead and it's like you created the nine in your head a day ago and it's already dead now and you've told people. Yesterday she was like, you're in a nine person alliance. You're the people.
[00:25:19] And then today she's like, so I don't know about the nine anymore because we can't trust Joseph. Why? I have a feel. Yeah. And it's like in general, I think there's something to be said for people, you know, trusting their gut, trusting their instincts.
[00:25:36] Sometimes you can pick up on things more than just what is said to you. But you have to be able to let people have conversations. You have to be able to trust to some extent that not everything is about you and just settle down because like, yeah, sure.
[00:25:53] Some people are talking about Angela. It's fine. You're each right now. Take advantage of that power and make something of it. You can't just assume every single thing is about you and people targeting you. It's too much. Yeah.
[00:26:07] And it's like every time she talks to a new person, it's like she has to reset. Like, okay, so here's what happened from yesterday to today. And here's why we can't trust these people anymore. She was talking to Quinn in the HOA room.
[00:26:24] She's like, you're the only one I can trust now, Quinn. So let me just explain to you everything that's happening. And then like Brooklyn rings the doorbell, walks in and she's like, yeah, yeah, come in, come in. Okay, I'm going to explain it to both of you now.
[00:26:38] And it's like. So was Quinn the only one she could trust or is Brooklyn the only one? And now it's like, well, like then she leaves that conversation is like, I can't trust them. I and it's like there's she she she she can't just.
[00:26:55] And I mean, to an extent, that's fair. You can't trust anyone in Big Brother, but you got to at least pretend for like maybe five minutes would be so nice. And in the midst of all this, like she's talking to the cameras
[00:27:11] occasionally. She's like she has a conversation with Leah where she's rightfully suspicious of Leah's motivations and loyalties because Leah does seem to be fairly tight with Mackenzie and Matt, probably more so Mackenzie. But Mackenzie is pretty deep with Matt.
[00:27:28] And I would say at this point, Leah, Mackenzie, Matt is becoming a little bit of a trio, which I don't think is the smartest thing in the world for Leah, who did have other options. But listen, they they they get along well.
[00:27:43] So this is what's so confusing to me, because night one, I was very much getting vibes that like Leah was a hostage in the storage room a little bit and like hearing Mackenzie talk about like we have to pull Leah back.
[00:27:57] We have to bring her back to us. We have to. And so then for literally the next day, when they are just attached at the hip and seemingly besties, I was like, OK, I don't know what's real or fake anymore. I like my perception was obviously wrong.
[00:28:10] It's like they they do the thing where they're just like constant, like they just click. I think like they they they're constantly just like joking around and doing voices to each other. So I think they just I think they're just like kind of in a similar age
[00:28:26] range and just kind of like get along. That's kind of the vibe I get from it. But so so so Angela talks to Leah and she does this weird thing where she starts to talk about like power.
[00:28:44] And then she she what what she does and she explains this later is that she creates a lie. And then immediately walks it back because she's like, oh. I want I want Leah to think that I'm a bad liar.
[00:29:03] And so so I I intention and she tells the camera I intentionally lied to her, created a lie and then immediately walked it back like, oh, man, I can't lie. I'm such a bad liar as a way of making it seem like she's a bad liar.
[00:29:22] Do I think that was necessary given the events of the rest of the day? No, but on top of actually being very sort of scattered and all over the place, she is also intentionally being a bit scattered in all over
[00:29:38] the place to aid in her in the perception of those things, which I don't know if she needs to do all that. I do think there's a place for maybe creating like a fake tell for yourself when you're so that people think like don't think to look for
[00:29:57] your real tell when you're lying. But I don't think this is the right way to do that. So. Okay. So Angela continues to go around. I will explain some of what else is happening in the house, but I want
[00:30:17] to try to get all the way through with Angela. She is eventually informed by many of the people around her that she is working with that they actually don't really feel like any should be the target. They think that Lisa should be the target.
[00:30:33] There was the way that she reacted to the nomination itself. There's the way that she has immediately started campaigning and doing one on ones with everyone. There's the various things that she's saying. There's a little bit of suspicion that she might have a power because of
[00:30:46] her relationship with Matt and the various ways that she's interacted with Matt and the fact that she keeps talking to Matt. People now think that she's closer to Matt than Kenny is at, which is kind of true.
[00:30:55] There's a variety of reasons for why the rest of the house feels like Lisa might be a better target, but they approach Angela with that. And she does push back initially, but eventually agrees that she's fine with Lisa leaving.
[00:31:11] But if that's the case, she wants to make the most of it. So she immediately grabs Matt and says, Hey, Matt, if I'm willing to keep your guy Kenny and get rid of Lisa, I want you like, I want to be in with you.
[00:31:22] And I know you have an alliance and I want in Matt. And that's very like he Matt does his thing was like, I do. I have an ally. I mean, there are people that are approaching me and then he ends up
[00:31:34] spilling some of some more of his own stuff. And then afterward, Angela is telling other people like, Yeah, I really, I really had Matt in there and I was like getting a bunch of info from him. But Matt actually ends up pushing back.
[00:31:49] He's like, actually, I think I would prefer Kenny go over Lisa, which is surprising to her because she felt like he'd be for Kenny, which he probably would have if not for the conversation we talked about yesterday between him and Lisa late in the pantry.
[00:32:05] And then additional conversations that have happened throughout the day. Again, there's just there's so much that's happening. I feel like I don't want to bog you down in too many details because so many of them will just lead to dead ends.
[00:32:16] But basically, Matt is now more pro Lisa than pro Kenny. But it's me. It's being made clear to him that Lisa is now the target. And so he kind of has to accept that at this point.
[00:32:29] I do think there's a little bit of an element of this too, where it's like, don't tell me who I'd prefer to stay. Don't tell me what I want. Like, I think that that might have something to do with this as well.
[00:32:41] But again, impossible to really know until we see more. Right. And so Angela kind of just continues along this track. She, as I mentioned, she talks to Quinn and and, and, you know, Quinn in the meantime had been talking to Lisa for a while.
[00:33:01] I think still believing that Lisa is likely to stay. But but Quinn talks to to Angela. And that's when Angela was like, you're the only way I can trust at this point. She starts explaining to Quinn that Joseph has flipped, that Cam has
[00:33:16] flipped, that they can't trust Leah, that like Matt is pulling all of these numbers and they're all against them now. And who can they trust? She doesn't know. And they kind of get interrupted. But Quinn hears all this and Quinn is like, perfect.
[00:33:37] Because there are two important factors with Quinn and with Joseph that help explain their actions through these first couple of days of pizza. Quinn in the preseason said, I really want to work with emotional players
[00:33:54] because they will essentially like be emotional and I'll be able to use the emotions to sort of like control them and keep them loyal to me. Joseph really wanted to work with some jocks that he could leech off of. He doesn't want a bro alliance.
[00:34:11] He's worried about a bro alliance. He doesn't want to be on the outside of a bro alliance. He wants to like grab a bro and use them to take out the other bros and leech off of their success in competitions and stuff.
[00:34:24] Not a bad strategy, but he has chosen Matt as his jock essentially. And so he has been trying to get Matt to work for the first couple of days of the game. And so we'll talk more about that later.
[00:34:40] But Quinn in the meantime is looking at Angela going off and he's like, this is great. And so later in the night he's going to approach Angela and give her a bunch more information and be like, Angela, you're my person. You're my number one.
[00:34:55] He lets her know about like the upgrade thing and he's like giving her a bunch of information and saying, I really want to work with you. He helps put together an alliance and they name it the collective that she's a part of and everything should be fine.
[00:35:15] Even though Angela has done all of this stuff and pushed away a bunch of allies, you know, Quinn is trying to put them in a position where they can put things back together and keep things solid and make sure that they have an
[00:35:30] actual group moving forward and everything is great. Except Angela doesn't believe any of it. And so she's still confronting Joseph about turning on her. She's still up early in the morning, late at night, whatever you want to call
[00:35:45] it, talking to the cameras about how she can't trust Quinn and that she's like thinking about all of these things and she's not getting any sleep. And then they wake her up early in the morning and then she goes off and has
[00:35:56] a big thing that I haven't been able to watch yet. That's Angela's story. Yeah. And just back to the Quinn of it all, I like but I'm also made very nervous by the way that he shares information. Just like, oh yeah, and this person told me this.
[00:36:12] And again, I don't know why they're telling me this, but like it's just I think a little too cute. And so I'm a little nervous for that moving forward for Quinn. I do think he has the social skills and the like strategic minds to be able
[00:36:26] to make it work. But I do think he might be making it a little bit more hard mode for himself and he needs to. We will see. So that's kind of Angela's thing. And I like I said, now that we've kind of talked through where Angela's head
[00:36:44] was at, I think it will be easier to sort of like get out some of the basic points that are necessary, that are important to talk about or some of the other house guests. So big important thing.
[00:37:01] There appears to be some kind of other group slash Alliance that that could end up being important. I just want to flag it for now because there are a lot of little groups that pop up and many of them don't end up mattering.
[00:37:14] But there is a group of Cedric, Cam, Chelsea, Quinn and Brooklyn. That is a five person thing. And it's again, Cedric, Cam, Chelsea, Quinn and Brooklyn. And those are all people that were like involved in the Angela thing.
[00:37:38] But this is, of course, without Angela and without some other people. And there are other key people like Joseph in this particular group. And they are also excluding Leah, which is important because she is with Matt and Mackenzie at this point or seemingly is.
[00:37:58] And this feels like a fairly solid group of people who will not flake, essentially. So that's why I feel like this is potentially something that could stick, even though we might see some small shifts in like maybe they add one. Maybe they remove one.
[00:38:22] Maybe they move in a different direction. But worth pointing out, this is a group that I think has already a little bit of history. In particular, Cedric, Cam and Chelsea seemed like a fairly tight core three of this potential five. So keep an eye on them for sure.
[00:38:42] Chelsea, again, in particular, seems to be very, very good at being in a lot of different places and having a lot of options right now. And so I don't know like who exactly she is the most loyal to. But this is, we're keeping an eye on this group.
[00:39:03] Yes. One to watch. So there's some other stuff happening. Matt has conversations with Kenny about, you know, about being Matt. This is part of why Matt ends up not wanting Kenny to stay as much and would
[00:39:25] prefer Lisa because he talks a lot with Kenny and then Kenny ends up like sort of exposing some of the information that Matt told him. Kenny is kind of just like trying to stay alive. Like he's kind of struggling.
[00:39:42] He's, you know, this is not a very normal house structure right now. And it's entirely due to the fact that Angela is HOH. Because in a normal house structure, you have a known comp threat usually as the first HOH.
[00:40:00] And then oftentimes they're like part of the cool kid club anyway. And so power consolidates very quickly and it's very easy. And Kenny would be sucking up to that power. He'd be trying to bro down. But instead, Angela is in charge.
[00:40:16] And there are a bunch of like anti-bro kinds of people in the house. And so while Matt thinks that he is in the middle of like a cool kid club where everyone wants to work with him, it's really that most people are giving him lip service.
[00:40:32] And he only actually has a couple of people. But he is still a threat. And so like for a player like Kenny, who's not really fitting in anywhere and is like, what is this structure? He doesn't seem to really know where to go or what to do.
[00:40:50] And so he's, Kenny is very much lost throughout the day. Yeah, he's adrift. He would love like some sort of flotation device would be great for him. I do think... As long as it's been used properly and not improper. Not that kind.
[00:41:05] Oh my God, Darren, it's 8.45 in the morning. But I do think, obviously we're still waiting for all the dynamics to shake out. If Matt ultimately does end up being very good at competitions, him having a solid three could be something very smart to latch on to.
[00:41:23] We just don't know yet because we haven't seen it. Yeah. So Lisa, as I mentioned, and I think it makes sense to just kind of focus on people right now. So Lisa on the block is going to, as I said, have an initial kind of reaction to it.
[00:41:44] And then throughout the rest of the day, he's going to have one-on-one conversations with people. Very much actively campaigning in a way that Kenny and Kimo are not right now. And it's kind of tough.
[00:42:02] I do like that this kind of got her moving and talking to more people. But I think the very formal structured way in which you have scheduled one-on-ones that you are going to have with every single person really diminishes the value, I think, of those conversations.
[00:42:23] And I think gives off a perception of you that you might not want on the block, especially when your two opponents are Kenny and Kimo, who are both fairly laid back in terms of their strategic perception. She really stands out between the three of them for her reaction
[00:42:43] and how strong, how hard she's gaming and trying to actively campaign. And so this is part of what is putting her in the hot seat. Really, if we're stripping down everything, the main sort of actual movement of the game in day four
[00:43:03] is that Kenny, Kimo, and Lisa were nominated and the target shifted from Kenny to Lisa. Lisa is currently the person that would be voted out if the vote happened today. Yeah, I did love Lisa's conversation with Leah and Mackenzie,
[00:43:19] where she's like, well, but if you know, at the end of the week, if I'm still on the block, like what are you thinking? And Mackenzie just literally goes, well, Kenny's the one I'm closest with. Just straight to her face. It took me out.
[00:43:33] Yeah. Kimo, as I said, certainly was not happy about being nominated, but tried to take it as well as possible. I think it's a bit easier to take being nominated well when you're one of three people instead of one of two.
[00:43:50] And in addition, you have two potential chances of coming off the block. And that's why, again, like Lisa's immediate push to start campaigning and having these one-on-ones may not be the right strategy in this particular house. Again, we can talk more about the implications of the twist,
[00:44:07] but like it doesn't really incentivize you to do more because there's so much that can change moving forward that it really should just be a bit more of a wait and see kind of situation. And that seems to be Kimo's approach.
[00:44:26] Kimo continues to be very much, again, strategically laid back. He is still very social in terms of likability, at least. Not very social in terms of like extroversion. And from the perspective that we have, I think, through day four, he seems to be very close with Teeqor.
[00:44:50] That seems to be probably his closest person in the game. And the two of them like hang out a bit and they don't seem to talk much strategy again, but they seem to get along well. And if the two of them last in the game, you know,
[00:45:06] more than a couple of weeks, or really even sooner than that, I really feel like they will likely become some kind of duo. And, you know, we'll see how much that expands from there depending on their success in the strategic realm.
[00:45:20] But that's also, I think, worth pointing out. Yes. We'll see how that pans out moving forward. Yes. Okay. So how are we 45 minutes in? Well, we spent a long time. We went through the Angela of the day, which is a lot of the day.
[00:45:39] All right. So let's see, where should we go next? I think that we know a bit more about Cam now. I think that Cam is he very much is like a very chill kind of laid back presence as well. But he does have that strategy gear to him,
[00:45:59] which is pretty much the exact combination you want. Like you want that likeability and chill nature that I think Kimo kind of has. But also like the ability to turn that into strategy talk so that people feel more comfortable.
[00:46:20] And Cam does that well, and he is included in a bunch of different groups. Although Angela is suspicious of him by the end of the night. But that is true of pretty much everybody in the house. Is there? Yeah. Is Angela not suspicious of anyone, including herself?
[00:46:35] I'm not so sure. You know, the particularly interesting thing to me about Cam is that other than Angela, at least nobody seems to be super concerned about him as a quote unquote bro. He is not really connected to Matt in any significant public way.
[00:46:58] I think that there are some people that are worried that they might get connected at some point, and that's part of why they're trying to work either Matt or Cam. But as of right now, there's not a lot of fear there.
[00:47:13] And there is a lot of acceptance for Cam and a lot of rejection of Matt. And so Cam has really won the bro battle. The bro battle that nobody knew was even actually happening. And like who even knows?
[00:47:28] But there are so many athletic people on this season that for it to be boiled down to like Cam and Matt are the two bros and you must pick one bro. And we hope they don't link up.
[00:47:39] It just is baffling considering how many strong and athletic people there are in the season. So again, we'll see what happens. But I've been very vocal. If there was a physical therapist in Big Brother and I was on Big Brother,
[00:47:54] I don't care if they're the biggest social, physical, strategic threat that they would beat me in the final two. They're not going like I would lay down my life to have access to a physical therapist at all times. I'm back pain. Yeah.
[00:48:11] Brooklyn had, I think, a bit of a quieter day, but she still, I think, continues to do pretty much exactly what she needs to. She does miss out on like the collective, I believe. But I also believe that the collective is probably has about a day total of
[00:48:30] life. So, you know, I'm not super concerned about that. No, who knows how real that is? We'll see. Cedric has a better day in day four than day three. We find out that he does have some deeper connections, again, particularly
[00:48:49] with Cam and Chelsea and their kind of core. And then the smaller alliance. The thing I really like that Cedric is doing, even though, you know, I, again, I talked yesterday about like, he very much is like an over explainer
[00:49:03] and kind of like tries to take charge, even though he looks like a literal child. But his insistence on forming and solidifying alliances is genuinely a good strategy. Like it is important to lock these things in and he is saying correct
[00:49:27] things. So I think that this is part of why he is finding himself having or finding himself in a lot of these groupings that, you know, as long as one of them sticks, he's going to find he's going to be in a pretty decent place.
[00:49:48] Well, and I think what I found really funny is that it was him and Quinn and I think Joseph talking a lot yesterday. And Cedric kept talking about how their alliance is good because it has
[00:50:01] diversity and then the feeds would cut and then we'd be like, what does like what's going on? Why are they cutting every time he says that? And he means like physical strength, mental strength and miscellaneous strength as diversity.
[00:50:13] So that was a fun moment to have your kind of detective hat on yesterday. I like to think I have miscellaneous strength. Yeah, yeah. Chelsea, Chelsea, I think is right now the person in the best sort of situation for options.
[00:50:36] She has again, the cam Cedric thing that branches out into Quinn and Brooklyn. In addition, she has developed a good kind of like working relationship with Joseph and Quinn because they recognize that they're in a kind of
[00:50:57] similar position where they're playing a lot of sides and trying to figure out where to land. Or they also kind of both work together to talk to Angela earlier in the morning and before the nominations. And importantly, importantly for Joseph and Matt and that situation,
[00:51:17] Chelsea seems to be the one that really is able to finally break through to Joseph and get him to drop the Matt idea. And I think Matt helped a lot with that unintentionally, of course, but Chelsea really like finally was like, I think breaking through to
[00:51:35] Joseph. Matt is a lost cause. We need to drop that idea. In fact, we need to, I think, try to get him or McKenzie up on the block this week if we can and work on creating something of our own.
[00:51:50] This eventually sort of like morphs into what becomes the collective. But this grouping of Chelsea, Joseph Quinn is also a potentially very important thing. And I could eventually see, especially because again, Brooklyn was a little quieter through the day.
[00:52:11] There's a world where like Chelsea, Joseph Quinn is one, Chelsea, Cedric Cam is another. And then the two of those things kind of combine with Chelsea at the center. And then maybe Brooklyn is attached and Angela is likely left out,
[00:52:30] especially given the events of this morning that we haven't gotten to yet that we'll get to tomorrow. And because those are all very solid people who are looking to be in an alliance, they all get along. And many of them are big fans of the show as well.
[00:52:44] And they understand the importance of like strategy not being like, yeah. I do want to queue up. I think Matt late last night mentioned specifically that Chelsea is in the best position. So people are seeing that as well, which adds a layer of danger to it that
[00:53:02] you know what will be interesting to see her work around it. Matt in particular seems to be looking a little bit at Chelsea. But given that he is basically her target at this point, like that's a little bit to be expected, but definitely worth pointing out as well.
[00:53:19] So Joseph, as we just talked about, did spend a large portion of the day trying to still make Matt thing work. He was part of helping convince Angela to not take the shot at Matt in addition to before the nominations.
[00:53:36] And then part of this is like his closest to Matt, his desire to work with a jock to prevent the pros from linking up so that he has an in somewhere. He really wanted to make that work.
[00:53:50] And I believe that Angela picked up on some of that, which is part of her paranoia about Joseph. And and so she ends up confronting Joseph and he's like, I don't want you to ever think that I'm not with you or that I'm more loyal to Matt.
[00:54:09] I'm totally with you. However, I did think that it would be a good idea to try to bring Matt and Mackenzie into some kind of alliance. And so and I was like, that's the worst thing you could say in this moment.
[00:54:21] Is this is that you're you're saying one thing and then you're saying the opposite thing. Like you should probably pick a thing. Yeah, honestly, just picking a thing and going with it sometimes is more valuable than kind of both sides in it and not committing.
[00:54:37] Yeah. So he does approach Matt with an idea for an alliance that includes himself and Angela and Matt McKenzie and and doesn't really get the response that he's looking for because Matt essentially says no to some degree, like the one that Joseph is pitching.
[00:54:59] Matt is like counter pitching. And and this is something I'm finding is fairly common with Joseph. I think that Joseph has like a pretty decent head on his shoulders. I like the strategic thoughts that he has.
[00:55:14] I think he was way too determined to make Matt to make Matt work. But I think that he kind of knows what he's doing. He does have a decent social game. The issue Matt Joseph seems to be running into and on top of like being too
[00:55:27] committed to Matt is that he is having trouble convincing people of things to do or not of things, but to do things. He's good at convincing people he's loyal to them, but he seems to not be
[00:55:40] great at convincing people to go along with his ideas because he's constantly finding himself in conversations where he's pitching something and then they are like, nah, though I'd rather do this other thing. And so, you know, that said, he is not over pushing when he gets the pushback.
[00:55:58] He releases it, which is what you need to do. But at some point he's probably going to want to be able to actually push through an idea because I think he recognizes that pushing through an idea early on is going to be really important. So he tries it.
[00:56:15] It's not really working. He has the conversation with Chelsea and he seems to finally be able to admit the Matt thing is not going to work. I'm dropping Matt. It's time to move on.
[00:56:28] And that I think is very key to his game if he wants to succeed moving forward. Yes, but like a little bit late. And I do worry for him because I get the sense that he kind of creates a
[00:56:36] narrative in his head about how things are, regardless of the maybe reality of the situation and then is surprised when other people don't agree with his worldview that he quite literally made up. Yeah. Leah, as we've mentioned, seems to just be getting closer and closer to
[00:56:55] Mackenzie and Matt. I think this is like it's not the end of the world for her necessarily. But the problem is that like, you know, in a world where it's regular Big Brother and if somebody is going to target Matt Mackenzie, they're going to
[00:57:12] nominate the two of them and one of them is probably going to go. It's probably fine for her to be there. She can always jump ship later. She seems to seems to have had at least a good relationship with some other players.
[00:57:25] But even then, it's like a little not not the greatest in the world. But in a world of Big Brother where there are three nominees and it's really hard to guarantee a particular person or or even two particular one of two particular people leave.
[00:57:41] There's absolutely a situation where it's like, all right, well, let's nominate Matt Mackenzie, Leah. And then if one of them is on the block by the end of the week, that's the one that leaves and that could very easily be Leah.
[00:57:53] So it's it's not not the greatest place to be. And I'm not entirely sure. Like, it seems like she has a head on her shoulder for the shoulders for the game. But she's like just kind of getting locked into this Matt Mackenzie thing.
[00:58:12] And I don't know where she's going to go from here. But but I think overall net negative day for Leah. Yeah. I actually don't recommend being a third wheel to a clear pair when there are three nominees just in general.
[00:58:27] Also very early for to be a third wheel to a pair in general. But but especially when there's three nominees. Yeah. Maybe wait a week to pick which pair you're going to third wheel if that's what you want to do.
[00:58:41] Mackenzie has, you know, some ups and downs today on day one. Some ups and downs today on day four. She starts very bad because Chelsea rats are out to Angela and she almost goes on the block, but then she doesn't go on the block and things kind of
[00:58:59] circle back around to a more Matt focused thing. But again, that doesn't really matter as much in this version of Big Brother where it's really just kind of scattershot get who you can get. It's going to be harder to pinpoint target Matt and Mackenzie very, very
[00:59:14] easily end up being collateral. She does end up telling Leah and Matt about her upgrade power. Which we now know, we now know what it is and and how it works. So Mackenzie got the America's veto power and how it works is that she has a
[00:59:37] veto that she can use, I believe at any time probably until a certain point. Yeah. And she can use it on whoever she wants, whenever she wants. Once she uses it, America will pick the replacement nominee for the use of
[00:59:56] the veto, which is one of the options we talked about in terms of its possible use. This makes the veto not that great unless you are popular. Yes. Because. You know, she could theoretically like use it on one other person, like say
[01:00:17] Matt's on the block, use it on Matt and then both her and Matt are safe, but she doesn't have control over who goes up as a replacement. Well, and like Leah, this is my question.
[01:00:28] Do we know for sure that her using America's veto would keep her safe or could she use it? And then America goes, Mackenzie's on the block. I would assume typically if you have a veto, you're safe yourself, even if you
[01:00:41] use it on somebody else. So I would assume that she would be safe. But basically, I mean, you know, to be fair, like if you have an enemy H.O.H. and you use a veto, they're not going to put up somebody you want to be put up
[01:00:54] anyway. So it's not like the worst thing in the world. And you have the potential that like America really like supplants, you know, what the H.O.H. would have done. So there is it is a power for sure.
[01:01:07] It's just a kind of a risky one and a volatile one in terms of like what the actual result will be. And my assumption is right now, obviously, it's going to be hard to tell until we see the edited episodes and how the
[01:01:24] producers decide to portray some of these players. But my assumption right now is that Mackenzie and Matt are probably not going to be the most popular in the show at the moment, although. Well, they could be underdogs. Because they are kind of underdogs, as you just said.
[01:01:45] And also if it's like Angela versus Matt, I do think there are going to be especially casual audience members who are more pro Matt, especially given the events of the morning of day five. So I don't know.
[01:01:59] And the other thing, too, is like if it's at the point where you have to use your America's veto, it's kind of a break glass in case of emergency situation anyway. So you just kind of have to take what you can get.
[01:02:09] Mm hmm. So we found out about that. Matt continues to be Matt and continues to spill more information and talk about how everyone wants to work with him and all this, all of this stuff. He loses Joseph.
[01:02:29] He kind of ditches Kenny for Lisa because he talks more with Lisa and he makes a bunch of like really strange whale noises in the talent show. You know, he's a man of many talents. And that was so special. It truly was.
[01:02:50] Matt's Matt's in trouble, except for the fact that like if we start getting the normal competitions back again, like that trouble could very quickly turn around, which is why so many people are still giving him lip service.
[01:03:10] Because if competition start to get real physical, it's going to be real physical. He's going to be winning HOHs. And if not HOHs, he's going to be winning vetoes. And if not vetoes, he's going to be winning AI arenas. And it might be hard to take him out.
[01:03:28] And you know what? I say that. But like just because he's physical doesn't mean that he's going to be the good physical competitor. Like, there are a lot of potential athletic people in this cast who might be very good at comps.
[01:03:50] But the perception of Matt being able to win all of those things, because I think that of all of the people in the house, Matt seems the most athletic. He has his shirt off the most. He's ripped.
[01:04:03] He has the air about him of like a cocky athlete, if you've ever met one. And the perception of that may be enough as it was this week to prevent people from wanting to target him outright and giving it, which would give him
[01:04:24] enough time and space to eventually build something either real or actually start winning competitions. Yeah. And again, also, since there are so many competitions, once we see someone win one or two physical competitions, that also tends to result in them kind of
[01:04:42] understanding just how the comps work in general. And then it compounds on itself. So, well, I mean, we don't know if Matt will be that person or not. Again, there's so many options for people who could be really good at it.
[01:04:53] But honestly, maybe he's manifesting a little bit. We'll see how that works out. And Matt is very much a person who is like they talked about like jury votes and how he's like, I would never want you like I would never want to vote for
[01:05:11] somebody who didn't win anything and just sat around batting their eyelashes to get to the end. And that's just the way things are. I'm just a person. I can't sit back and do nothing. I've got to try and win.
[01:05:28] And I want to try and win all of these things. And like also, side note, man, I really hope these arena comps are really physical like. It's a boo. Tomato, tomato. This is so boring.
[01:05:44] Like the specific type of person who comes on Big Brother and is like there is one way to compete and there is one way to win. And if anybody disagrees with me, well, they're dumb and wrong or they're just like a small person that can't win.
[01:05:57] Like it's just so irritating. There are part of what makes Big Brother beautiful is that there should be multiple ways to win and play and compete. And boo, boring, boring bro opinion. I'm done with it. Well, it's just so it's so perfectly representative of like the issue with
[01:06:20] like hegemony and like the way that like these kinds of players will approach the society that is in the game, which is like I only respect competition wins and competitiveness and stuff. And also in the back of my mind, I know.
[01:06:37] And in the front of my mind, hope that the competitions will be suited specifically to me. And so in a roundabout way without having to say it out loud or maybe even acknowledge it to myself, I only respect me and the way that I do things
[01:06:53] because me in the way that I do things are the way things are. And so it's a it's a circular chain where it all links up and I never have to leave that chain or or think about how other people have to approach life.
[01:07:08] And it's honestly, it's very much it's similar to like when you watch love shows like a lot of the love shows, it's people who are extremely conventionally attractive who've never been rejected before. And so when you see them face rejection for the first time, it's like something
[01:07:24] crumbles inside them because it's their whole world is destroyed. And so I do feel like it's very similar with these extremely physical people that are pushing that only physical strategies is the way to be because they haven't maybe had to deal with a different type of reality yet.
[01:07:40] So we kind of already talked about Quinn. I think I'm still pretty high on Quinn's social ability and strategic ability seems to be pretty good as well. And he's he we know now has the the deep fake power, which honestly,
[01:08:03] I'm assuming is the stronger power of the two. And I think right now the biggest danger for Quinn is that he seems to like Joseph be really locked in on. So, OK, we've seen this a bunch actually now with super fans recently
[01:08:19] where Corey came into Big Brother 25 really wanting a Helena to his Kevin Jacobs like and tried to make Mimi work for that for way too long. Joseph comes in to this season wanting to leech off of a jock. And so he's trying to make Matt work.
[01:08:39] It seems like he's he's dropping that certainly a lot faster than Corey dropped the Mimi idea. But like he was really locked in on that. Quinn also now wanted to work with like emotional players, sees Angela feels like that's the play might not be the play.
[01:08:56] She might be a little too much to handle here for Quinn. So I think there are like fans who really would like they like the concept of a strategy and they go in wanting to make that work and sometimes have a hard time letting it go.
[01:09:11] So I'm curious to see how Quinn handles the Angela stuff from the day. I just Quinn seems to be very uniquely socially competent. In addition to the super fan gamer brain. So I'm really excited to see how he, you know, combines these things
[01:09:34] and moves forward while still being sneakily athletic, which is well whilst admitting and telling people he's athletic. But even then it's fine. Like it just it works for him and it's fine. And I'm not going to question how it is. Well, yeah, I mean like that's the thing.
[01:09:51] It's it there's there's some risk to it. But while players like Cam and Matt and Tucker and McKenzie are in the game, like it's he can be he can say I'm athletic all he wants. But like the perception is still that those other people are likely more
[01:10:06] athletic and so it might still work, but it is still I think potentially people sit here and act like oh height is like the most important athletic feature. But if you're like a little bit on the shorter side and you have more
[01:10:18] compact muscles and you can maybe fit on the endurance competitions a little bit better, that is way more dangerous. But people just don't people have an obsession with height. And so they just are not going to see the value in that the way that they maybe should.
[01:10:34] We'll see. Rubina, I think, is like perfectly fine social player so far has not seemed to be too involved in the strategic side of things yet. She's been included in a couple of different groups, but I think because
[01:10:53] she's not as active strategically, she is being left out of some of these new core groups being formed, which is probably not great for her long-term game. But but there's still plenty of time and plenty of space and she has
[01:11:06] the social ability and connections to still get work into some things. So I'm not too concerned about her yet, but not a huge presence so far strategically or even just like in general on the feeds.
[01:11:18] I think it'll be really interesting to see for some of these more quiet players what happens next week because I think we're starting to see, you know, an era of Big Brother where the first week is an absolute mess.
[01:11:31] And then the second week you can reset and start building things that, you know, should have theoretically happened week one that didn't. So I'm not counting her out by any means. It might benefit her that she's a little bit less involved right now.
[01:11:48] Then we have T-Core who, who, like I said, she's connected to chemo. She was included in the collective group as was chemo, but though chemo wasn't as involved as T-Core in the like discussion of it was more like
[01:12:04] I was going to say, does chemo know that he's in the collective group? I don't think chemo knows yet. So, but, but chemo T-Core is kind of supposed to, I think, be the person to bring chemo in.
[01:12:18] Although it might be, it might be dead by the time it arrives and might not ever arrive at this point. So who knows? But still T-Core is T-Core is basically like a slightly more active version of chemo at this point.
[01:12:37] They both feel very similar in terms of their likability and like social game at the moment. Although I would say, okay, yeah. What I would say is T-Core is a bit more strategically active right now,
[01:12:50] but also has a couple more like enemies, people that have been turned off by T-Core. And quite frankly, I'm not entirely sure. I've not been able to keep up with like, what is the issue people have with T-Core?
[01:13:05] But like Tucker was like going off about T-Core and I just have trouble understanding what he was saying. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Tucker obviously we're about to get to had a very interesting night
[01:13:17] compared to the night before, but I, we, I haven't seen any evidence of why anyone would be so against T-Core whatsoever. So I'm a little hesitant to believe that is like a legitimate opinion. Yeah. And remember we talked yesterday that like there was talk about like,
[01:13:37] well obviously other people are going to be going after T-Core. Like obviously T-Core is a target and it's just like, I still don't fully understand why this is like one of those things where I
[01:13:48] really wish we had the first two days of live feeds because my guess is that it was probably nothing. It was probably a lie or a misinterpretation or an exaggeration of something that is now become kind of bigger than itself.
[01:14:04] And unfortunately we don't have a way of knowing exactly where it came from or what the motivations for it are. So yeah, I'll be, I'll be taking any T-Core criticism with a grain of salt for the meantime. Exactly.
[01:14:20] Speaking of Tucker, we finally got a little bit of game talk from him because he was talking to Kenny. Kenny by the way has come up with a theory because he caught Joseph talking to Angela and I think it was when they were having the confrontation with
[01:14:39] Angela was like, you flipped on me Joseph. But now he is convinced that Joseph is really tight with Angela that he maybe has the upgrade power and then also that Joseph is the reason he's on the
[01:14:52] block. Like he really just went all in on this Joseph theory and he's really been pushing it. You know, we were critical of Tucker for not saying much night one and I think he maybe should have continued not saying much.
[01:15:11] Yeah. And so he's explaining this to Tucker who then goes starts going off about T-Core and, and, and, you know, Tucker has continued to like the, like this, this story that Matt tells about Tucker approaching him about a
[01:15:24] final two is, has still been making the rounds from Tucker's point of view. It was kind of like Matt that approached him. And so, you know, at this point Tucker still is just like the goofy guy.
[01:15:37] He does have a long conversation with Angela trying to make something work with her, but, but that's Angela. So it really, you, you might as well just not count it. So where Tucker lands is I think very much still up in the air
[01:15:53] that, you know, basically what's happening in the game is that people are trying to find the majority alliance. And again, normally in Big Brother, it's very easy to find the majority alliance. It's just the young, hot people with a couple of extras.
[01:16:14] And because they all get along and then there are a couple of extras that, that fit in for whatever particular reason. And, and they're probably in power and they probably have the majority and everything's fine. But this season has both a somewhat interesting mix of players where like
[01:16:33] you have people like Joseph who's worried about bros. You have people like Quinn who's worried about bros. And, and, but not in the Frenchie way, but in the, like, very realistic, like they are both fans. I think, I think it was Quinn who like listens
[01:16:49] to updates. And so like recognizing like this is like a dangerous, actually dangerous thing that we need to be worried about. Let's make sure that we are not just letting all the pretty people get together. And, and so they're trying to like carve out their own thing.
[01:17:05] While Matt is like just essentially playing like how most people would honestly in his spot, except he's not in the spot that those other people are because things are different in this particular house. And part of that is because Angela, as we talked about is in power.
[01:17:22] And Angela is not, you know, your typical first HOH, not your typical kind of like majority alliance leader. And that alone changes the dynamics of the house. But then on top of that, she's a mess herself.
[01:17:37] And she's so all over the place that she's also not able to solidify anything. And so it's really just a rush to who can find the thing that works. And I think it most reminds me right now of Big Brother 23 when, when Frenchie was in charge,
[01:17:54] because he was trying to actively prevent the pretty people from coming together in his, he called them the bros, which is fairly accurate. And, but that was such a mess that it wasn't really going to work. And so then there was kind of like,
[01:18:10] can we form some kind of counter thing, but then that didn't quite work. And then the thing that ended up sticking was this like fledgling agreement called the cookout that, that ended up being like just a smaller group of people that was fairly secret
[01:18:24] that was like fairly stable. And they eventually formed the real structure of the house. And that's where I feel like, you know, this, like any kind of smaller group of like five, I think right now is probably going to win the day,
[01:18:42] whichever group of five is able to come together and like actually lock in, feel good, not flake and be solid. And come up with an actual game plan. I think that is the group that's going to form the,
[01:18:56] the structure that runs the house for the first bit of the game. And because then they can start pulling in numbers and structuring things appropriately. And so, so right now, I think there are a bunch of people that recognize that,
[01:19:10] especially the super fans. And so it's just like, which person, which group is going to form first and then, and then build. And, and it's just because they keep trying to include Angela and then that keeps
[01:19:21] breaking up. It's like, it's just this one. Nope. This one. Nope. This one. Nope. This one. Maybe. Well, cause I think as well, like there's people have this perception of, Oh, we need a really big group.
[01:19:35] And they overlook the idea that like a small core that then branches out is a lot more powerful than just one large group. And everything is so fluid and messy right now that we're just going to have to see how things go.
[01:19:51] And it doesn't super help when you're then having a house meeting and an altercation the next day. Yeah. So it's, it's interesting though, because it is very much like there are enough people that recognize the importance of creating alliances early to form that structure that everyone is
[01:20:16] trying to do the same thing at the same time. And, uh, and because there's no natural gravitating things, pulling people together, it's just like a big mess, which, uh, in part is like has that hungry, hungry hippos aspect to it that we talked about yesterday.
[01:20:32] And that happened in season 25, but the difference is that in season 25 it was two sides grasping for power. We thought that might be the case, Angela versus Matt, but Angela and Matt are both so messy that they don't actually have proper sides. And so it's instead like, um,
[01:20:48] I don't even have actual hungry, actual hungry, hungry hippos where there's like the six hippos. Yeah. But then, but at least in that, in, in that metaphor, there are actual solid hippos. You know what I mean? Well, it's actually themselves. Okay. This is more like, like, uh,
[01:21:08] like a lava lamp of just like, uh, like blobby lits forming together, splitting up, trying to find like which one is going to stay. I, well, I feel like, like at this point, are they playing Uno? Like maybe, maybe, maybe. Um, all right.
[01:21:29] All right. I think that's mostly the overview necessary for the day. We're already in hour 20. Uh, so, um, things will likely be solidifying to some degree over the next few days. So stay tuned for, for some of that. Uh,
[01:21:48] there's certainly going to be some stuff to talk about tomorrow morning, uh, including the, uh, blow up that happened as soon as this podcast started. Um, we'll maybe do some reenactments as we, uh, as we get over there. So stay tuned for that. Um,
[01:22:06] if you would like to suggest a name for this, uh, update, feel free to, uh, to drop it in the chat or in the comments below, uh, on YouTube. Um, and, um, I think that's mostly, uh,
[01:22:19] if me Kirsten anything else that you would like to bring up before we wrap up? I just wanted to ask because I feel like with the timing of the week, so fees just went down. It's going to be veto pick. They're going to have veto today.
[01:22:30] When in the week is this AI arena actually going to happen? Is that tomorrow? Um, I'm not entirely sure. I've seen it said that people expect it will actually, that it might be live on the life, um, which would be, uh, interesting. Um, very interesting,
[01:22:53] but it's also possible that it does in fact happen like earlier in the week. Uh, right. So I'm not sure that we know exactly at this point, but, um, you know, it does definitely have some amount of, uh, ramifications in terms of timing for sure.
[01:23:12] Absolutely. Um, and then just the only other thing, uh, I don't think we mentioned the Lisa and Leah just like hiding in the shower for what felt like seven hours last night. And they got in trouble for not wearing mics while they were having this conversation.
[01:23:27] So I don't think the full extent of whatever this was got out, but just another moment of Leah bonding with people that are maybe more on the bottom, which, uh, might not serve her well in the future. Yes. And, and more, I think evidence because,
[01:23:43] so Leah and Lisa did have earlier conversations as well that we were able to hear more of, uh, about working together. Um, and again, Lisa had conversations with Matt about working together. So the Matt McKenzie, Leah grouping is kind of in the process of pulling in Lisa,
[01:24:01] um, as the target has shifted to her. And it's, that's quite frankly part of why the target has shifted to her. Um, so, um, you know, especially given that there are two opportunities for Lisa to come off the
[01:24:14] block, that is certainly relevant. Um, but we will see where it goes, I think from here. Yes, absolutely. All right. Well, that is what we have for you today. Uh, thank you so much for joining us. Of course. Uh,
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[01:25:12] I thought a very fun podcast yesterday with, uh, the two of the guys from jet lag, Ben and Adam. Uh, we made them watch the first two episodes of big brother, um, and got their perspective on it as new viewers and as game designers and show
[01:25:27] runners themselves. Uh, and I thought it was really, really fun. So, uh, make sure you check that out. Um, I'll be back tomorrow with another update will be live, uh, Sunday after the episode I'm on Twitch watching the episodes.
[01:25:40] I did a 24 hour stream in which half of which was me recording podcasts. But, uh, we also had a lot of discussion about live feed. So that was very fun over on Twitch. It's really a good time over there.
[01:25:51] Um, and, uh, listen, there's just, there's a lot going on, but check it all out person. What do you have? Yes. So over on the hot dummies on islands podcast, myself and Brian Scali are just finishing up the love Island USA season,
[01:26:06] which has been very fun at very messy tomorrow night is the finale and Scali and I will be joined by America from BB 25. So maybe some of the people watching this will be interested in that pod, even if they don't watch the violent as well,
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