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[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Every morning, tearing Armstrong's Hot-Fick Brother

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_03]: looking at the stuff from yesterday

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: All the drama, all the strategy

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Insilieness from Firo to HOH

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Every single season, you know he is the reason

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what's happening.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Rob said that he could do it.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Tomorrow he will do it again.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, everyone and good morning.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to our live feed update for August 30th.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, Aaron Armstrong, and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: on the Big Brother 26 live feeds.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It was day 45 in the house and there was an eviction, very surprising eviction.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: There was an HOH competition, new HOH, new plans for NOMS, new alliances,

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: lots to talk about here today.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And with me to talk to you at all is Buya.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing, Buya?

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing great, Teran.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing great.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: This has been a good season so far.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the other end of things.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm more optimistic.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I do not think it's doom and gloom.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we may have had a new beginning potentially.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's still a lot of game to play and I'm excited to talk about it.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, definitely.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: The game has once again opened up and we will see where it goes.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But let's talk about how we got here because as of yesterday morning,

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_02]: T-Corps was still HOH, Tucker, Angela and MJ were on the block.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: We saw that Chelsea was rounding up votes to take Tucker out in the event that he lost.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_02]: In the meantime, the other vote, the more likely vote at that point,

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the MJ versus Angela vote, was still somewhat up in the air,

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but was definitely leaning pretty heavily toward MJ leaving.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, a key part of that is that Tucker had been lying about voting Angela out.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: He was telling people, he was telling primarily Quinn,

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: he wanted Quinn to believe that they were going to do what he wanted

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and vote Angela out over MJ.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And in reality, they were going to blindside Quinn.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was a big part of Tucker's plan.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, Tucker was the only person that wanted to do that.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_02]: His allies were like, why?

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Particularly Joseph, that was just like, I don't want to lie to Quinn.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That's bad for my game.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And Tucker was kind of like, I mean, if you really want to screw everything up,

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess you can do it.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, okay, I guess I, I mean, I really just,

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it benefits us in any way, but like, fine.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just won't talk to Quinn today.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll we'll still lie to Quinn.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: This is one of the key things that, you know, a lot of people had picked up

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: is that Tucker is a great ally to have if he truly is an ally to you.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, you have to still kind of play around him,

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: dance around him and you don't want to ruffle any feathers with him.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is a very big test for a lot of them of like,

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't want to do this.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You want me to do this.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want you to be looking at me.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I'll do it, but I don't want to do it.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's something to keep in mind when we get further into this day.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: There's further drama when Quinn wears Rubina's skirt,

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: which is something that they had planned to do.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But Tucker is upset about it because it's Quinn pretty much.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, in the meantime, Chelsea is going to continue to make sure the votes

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: are there to evict Tucker.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn worries that she might be screwing him over and might not go through with it,

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: but he's like, what can I do at this point?

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to have to be prepared to lie.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Lie my ass off if it falls through.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: However, did not fall through as we saw in the eviction episode last night.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker lost the AI arena competition.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He misunderstood the instructions.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: We did talk to him just minutes ago, really.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So that interview will be out soon after this update.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He did tell us again and he has been saying in other interviews.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He did not throw it.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He just misunderstood the instructions.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: He lost the AI arena competition.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the flip came through by about a five to three.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker was evicted from the game.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That is where we stand here.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And again, with Tucker gone, the entire game has once again changed.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It really has.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He was one of the big pieces that would cause a big change in the house

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: because again, Tucker had some soldiers behind him.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: In the Stock Watch segment this week,

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Amon had to yell out stand up multiple times,

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: not just once, not twice, multiple times

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: because there were quite a few people that were following him in such a way

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and there were still other people that were aligned with him.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And there were people that were not only scared of him,

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: but also were going to use their HOH to try and get him out if they could.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So he was very integral to the entire plot line of the rest of the season

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: had he stayed with him leaving.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of storylines that open up.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of people that open up to new avenues potentially.

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So we then went to the HOH competition.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_02]: New HOH, it mattered a lot.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be a big HOH.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of different directions that the game can go in from here.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was apparently a pretty close one.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It was involving some eggs.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, may or may not have been the classic egg comp,

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but may have had a slight variation to it.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But the results was Quinn is the new HOH.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn back in charge officially this time and will be controlling the week.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And that means that we could go on again still a few different directions

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: depending on what Quinn wants to do.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That and we still have the AI arena.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's still three nominees.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That's still a comp that's going to deliberate who the final two people on the chairs are come Thursday.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of intrigue here for me at the moment.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, between Quinn and Chelsea, there was like two people that I was like,

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: if you win this could be a bad spot for you because who are you going to put up?

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: When being one of the main ones, because I feel like he's kind of got something going on

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to a certain degree with almost everybody in the house.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So immediately when I saw it was kind of like, oh right, what are we going to do here?

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's find out.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like this is such a reset on the game that having the HOH is so valuable.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's not like anything that Quinn has feels solid after everything has been reset.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Right? I think that this is an opportunity to build something to finally build something that might actually last.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: If they're capable of doing that.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Is the big big if yeah.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_02]: So the feats come on and there that Quinn's already doing one on one.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's talking with with T-Core and so that conversation is already going.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He has at this point already told MJ that she is safe.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And Joseph is already going around telling people about his final two with Tucker.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph wasted no time.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: He last night, he immediately let Tucker know, listen, I was the one that voted for me.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I was with you.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I voted him vote you out.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He Joseph loves a good confession, not confession, no confession.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He loves just confessing the things he's done.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Hey, you that guy, he liked me best.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: That was me.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I was the one.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So Quinn's talking to T-Core and again right away.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean sometimes it takes a little while for us to find out almost one of the first things that was said on the feeds when they come back.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn is saying, yeah, I think I'm going to need to put Rubina.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I've already burned her once.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way she's going to forgive me again.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's fairly sound logic in a vacuum.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that like after a while Rubina would be like, I'm going to get here's this one's for Tucker Quinn.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But I actually, I think that like when underestimates his relationship with Rubina, I think that he still burned from her being upset about him having the power, which was kind of weird.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But she's actually way more chill about him evicting Tucker than she was about him having the power.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that that's is a couple of things with this relationship, I think specifically one is Quinn keeps talking about how he's burned.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He's burned her twice.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He stabbed her in the back twice and I don't think he can overcome that and he feels like because I've done that any other person would come after me as a result.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And so she surely should want to come after me.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's one.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The second thing I feel like is again, the closeness to Tucker Rubina should be seen as the closest person to Tucker and Tucker did not want Quinn in.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So even if Rubina has been wanting Quinn and has been very honest, has been working through relationships with him, I don't think he can quite shake that either.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the ghost of Tucker's past where he just can't oversee that.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day as much as we talked about all week long last week, the last couple of weeks, how you know, T-Corps even just last night was saying I believe Quinn over Tucker.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not like that was solid the whole way through.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was like, well I was believing Tucker more than Quinn but after talking to Quinn, I believe Quinn more than Tucker.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They had been trying to protect Tucker or protect Quinn.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But like to what extent right?

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not like they were working closely with Quinn and looking out for his interests.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: They were like, oh here are all of these people that really want to go after Quinn and we will maybe tell him some of it at some point.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And we will sometimes stick up for him but it's not like we're letting him know what he needs to be doing.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, he was very much kept on the outs and even with this vote, like the very vote of Angela versus MJ, he was allowed to be lied to.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like so of course from his perspective it's like how much did you really have my back?

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it doesn't didn't really seem like it because you were working very closely with Tucker who was actively coming for me constantly.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: If you were really working with me then you wouldn't have been working with Tucker or or he wouldn't have been coming after me.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Like one of those two things would have had to have been true.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So, so that's what he's telling T core is that he's going to have to put Rubina on the block.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: But don't worry T core I am not putting you on the block.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is what we talked about last week on the round table was that despite everything despite the fact that things could go terribly wrong that people might be going after chemo or Rubina.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: None of them want to touch T course she does still have that positioning and that has not changed.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He says that he will not put T core on the block.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: He says he also feels like he can't put Chelsea and Cam on the block because they just built a bridge this week by making this move on Tucker, he will definitely put Angela up.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That's obvious.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So when it comes down to it he's just going to need a third nominee.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, last night I said that MJ could be an easy person for him to throw up MJ has been kind of anti Quinn for a while.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_02]: She's a comp threat.

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And quite frankly, MJ Leah and Angela wouldn't be the worst nominees in the world, especially, especially Leah.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But Quinn has a different approach with MJ which I think is a potentially effective one if he works it right, which we'll get into later.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So right now, he's just looking at Angela Rubina.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He needs a third T course says well, if you need a third, I was being honest about Leah.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I really was.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And so she tries to go in that direction but doesn't make a lot of headway.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean obviously not enough push, but also it's right at the very beginning of the rain.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So do you want to come over bearing?

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm intrigued about his Quinn's approach with Mackenzie because Mackenzie, we were through six weeks of the show now and she is still someone that's someone on an island has some connections but nothing strong enough.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think potentially with the backing and endorsement from Chelsea, I definitely could see Mackenzie getting scooped up this week.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we keep talking about how this is a reset week.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a bad week to look at someone who could have just been a number of the throw up on the block to be someone who you take to further down the game.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That and also he feels like Mackenzie was done very dirty this past week, including the stuff about Tucker asking her to throw the comp and everything.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And he doesn't want to do her like that.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So he wants to give her like a nice week as well, which I think honestly, I feel like she will take that and value that.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I do as well, but I think the key to this and we'll talk about this throughout the update, I'm sure is that like he will need to make sure he is actively doing maintenance on this relationship in a way that nobody has bothered to do with MJ throughout the season because various people have picked up MJ at certain points.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But then they lose her because they don't actively strategize with her and let her know information.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So she starts imagining worlds that don't exist and then just wanders off and they let so we'll see where that goes.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, T-Core is going to talk to chemo about this conversation with Quinn.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: She says she was initially happy that when one but now she's nervous because she did not anticipate that he'd be putting up Rubina.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: She's annoyed at herself and rightfully so for not pushing harder against Leah earlier and not telling him how much Leah has been pushing Quinn's name.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I know that I have mentioned this a lot.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Happy?

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's it's for very good reason.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I in a season with people volunteering for the block and and and using vetoes on other people and just like doing all kinds of silly things.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I still believe that on Quinn's deep fake HOH T-Core and chemo not using that opportunity to throw Leah under the bus is one of the worst moves of the season.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I really feel that way because it is too late now.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, now they are in a position where them doing it feels like they're just trying to save their own.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: What's and and it's been weeks and weeks and they can't say well for weeks and weeks she's been doing this and we just didn't tell you.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's it's kind of too late now.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It could have happened while they were in power and they did start to push and it would they all they kind of almost got somewhere, but they still didn't just hammer the dagger in.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't talk about the various things that were being said they they focused on like individual conversations that they had where she might have been doing something.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And and now it's too late.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And now they're like, oh man, why are we going up instead of Joseph and Leah?

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Because you never shared that information the same way that people didn't share information with MJ when they were trying to pull MJ in.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You never shared the information that he needed to know when you had the opportunity to do it.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And now you are in a position where Leah is in a preferred spot over you.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And you only have yourself to blame and she does blame herself.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she recognizes it. I mean, here's the thing.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've talked very extensively about Quinn suffering from verbal diarrhea where he's sharing way too much with too many people.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He's given up a lot of his information.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He won't come on the opposite approach where they just did not share enough information, I feel like they had ample opportunity to share.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't they weren't even sure if the visionaries was a real thing all the way through.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't feel like this was a true final three.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: They were questioning Quinn's position and that I think caused them to not really invest in that relationship as much or they were a little too scared to say something.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That and the you know, the passive gameplay.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like if they had done this way sooner, about way sooner, I mean genuinely just share as much of it as you could.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It would be different because then every one on one conversation, Quinn's having with Leah from there on moving forward.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_01]: There's some doubt he's looking at it.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you looking at me?

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you maintaining eye contact?

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you looking away?

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be some questions going in.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But you just kind of let Leah bat eyes and smile at every little thing Quinn saying in a one on one for four or five weeks to the point where now he just doesn't trust that that's a lie.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't have lived the lie for four weeks.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It seems so real.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't seem like it's going to be authentic to him at that point.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, in addition to that, he has spent the last three weeks still thinking that Leah is a viable path for him in the game, which is going to change how he operates strategically.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: If he recognizes that she's not only not a path but an actual obstacle.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: He needs to operate in the game differently.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He needs to rely on people like Ticor and chemo much more.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But because he spent the last three weeks thinking this is my parachute out of here, it's going to be more and more difficult to convince him that's not the case and that he needs to reorient his entire strategic position.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Because now when he's hearing this stuff, he's like, well, this sucks to hear personally but also strategically.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Because if I don't have Leah, that puts me in a much worse position than I thought I was in and I don't want to be in that position.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I would prefer this to not be true.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But when he was in a position of power before, when this didn't matter as much before because he still had tons of options, it would have been so much easier to convince him of this and they just didn't do it.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I'm going to say on that.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: They also talk about Ticor, chemo, how they might be associated with Tucker's attempt to lie to Quinn about the vote and that might not be great for them.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: They recognize that.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But all three of them and especially chemo and Rabina at this point are going to agree that can't even really be mad at the decision to take Tucker out.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He was actively trying to lie to Quinn, fly inside him, target him.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_02]: How can they be mad that he voted them out?

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is generally the response from Ticor, chemo and Rabina.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I've seen some talk about like them being upset, Ticor being upset.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But none of that really comes from voting Tucker out.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That was all well and good.

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_02]: What Ticor is upset about is, oh now he's also targeting us.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not good.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: She was like, I was fine with voting Tucker out.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I was maybe even expected that.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But I was hoping that he would still be working with us afterward.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is the miscalculation.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is where she's feeling like, oh crap, now this is bad for us.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially when and this has been a recurring theme.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: There's been a lot of Ticor and chemo talking throughout the season and being like,

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm frustrated that they don't know these things telepathically.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't say the word telepathically.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm ad-libbing that.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So in this in this is like, well we've protected your ass for how many weeks now.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: How are we even in contention to be on that list?

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We are not Tucker.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We have been with you.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I kept you safe.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been working.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We've been making sure blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the frustration kind of comes from that as well.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But then I feel like they should ask themselves, you know, when we blindsided Cedric a couple weeks ago,

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: we ended up working with the people that voted with us.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So why wouldn't he do the same?

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like why wouldn't he do the same?

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Think about that.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I do, I do understand where it comes from from Ticor because I don't know that I agree with Quinn's position here to put Rubina,

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe to put Rubina on the block, but we'll talk more about his plans.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure I agree with his plans.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to talk about it because I'm very curious to break it down because I don't think I understand it fully either,

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but I also don't know which side I'm on right now.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So Quinn also is going to talk to Cam.

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He lets Cam know he's good this week.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: He's for sure putting up Rubina and Angela.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: He'll just need a third nominee.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Cam suggests chemo.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about this a little bit over the last week.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: We mentioned it on the round table that chemo's positioning strategically has been steadily dropping even as T course has stayed the same,

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: that a lot of people have been looking at chemo and thinking about him as a potential target, seeing him as somebody that's influencing their girl Ticor.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's not surprising that Cam feels like chemo is a good option.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Chemo also for what it's worth, not really doing a ton of good socializing outside of his little circle of Tucker Rubina Ticor.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see if that changes.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He was beloved in the house, you know, a couple of weeks ago, but really again got locked into that position.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So Cam is going to suggest chemo and for what it's worth for a few weeks now, Quinn himself has been talking about how he would have nominated chemo in an attempt to take out Tucker.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Now with Tucker gone, will he have the same thought?

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Very quickly you'll see.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He does have the same time.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So, Quinn mentions to Cam that he trusts Chelsea, Ham, Ticor and low key MJ.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Why does Quinn trust MJ?

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: But he sees he sees I mean I do know he says, but he sees MJ as somebody that's on the outs correct as somebody that is that he that can be picked up, which is correct.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody that has been sort of like mistreated in some ways, which is correct.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, again, I think that like it's it's good that he wants to move in that direction.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Should he be like actively trusting her right now?

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, let's go on a date first.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, should he be telling everyone that like this is his new person also probably not.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But but that is how he's looking at it.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Cam says same.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel the same way as you do.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I trust all of the same people.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And and then this is when Quinn mentions that between you and me, I don't actually want Angela Lee.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of a waste.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And with that it becomes clear that Rubina is Quinn's target.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Now you mentioned that you don't necessarily think this is the right move for him.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's can we can we deconstruct that real quick?

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm curious because I may I see a world where it could be the good move for him, but I want to see what your thought is first.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think it's as bad as like chemo would be.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I quite honestly of the three if you were going to target one of T-Corp chemo or Rubina, I think T-Corp is by far the best shot.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Could you get her out?

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: That's another question.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But like T-Corp is way too connected is also the most annoyed with Quinn at them at him betraying them.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And is the biggest danger in a jury vote has again is just most capable of gathering numbers.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: If you take T-Corp out chemo and Rubina become potential numbers.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_02]: We've been like who even knows like they kind of just drift around.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think if he's going to target one of them, it should be T-Corp.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But then the question is, should he even target one of them?

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they're still seen as a trio.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: They're still seen as a bit of a danger.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: T-Corp chemo and Rubina have like lost so many social connections.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: They might regain them.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But right now they're like the most on the outs.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a great opportunity to cut at a different trio, which is Angela Joseph Leah, which is pretty dangerous for you.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want, you know, there is a world where he can use his relationship with Joseph effectively.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So he might not want to do too much there, but like certainly put Leah on the block and he has a great excuse to, which is that she's been saying his name.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And Leah leaving would probably be his best case scenario.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He could easily put Angela on the block as well because Angela is on the block as he's going up anyway.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And then quite frankly, if he has the opportunity, he should take out Chelsea or Cam as well.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that like that wouldn't be the worst move either.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that like when you're looking at this new setup, it's like who do you want in your end game?

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_02]: How can you create a new structure that benefits you?

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're looking at a field of competitors where there aren't that many like overtly physical people left.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You have kind of MJ and you have definitely Cam.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you're looking at like yourself, Chelsea, like a few other physical people, but it's much more even playing field.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to let Cam get too far into the game so that he beats you in some of those.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I know Quinn is like I beat Cam and everything physical, but that's I feel like typical when thinking he can just beat everyone.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: He said the same thing about Tucker way back when.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I just don't think that Rubina is much of a threat to Quinn.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that Rubina would forgive Quinn.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that she would end up working with him again.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: She likes Quinn.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: She just likes him.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And I also think she'd be a vote for him on the jury for what it's worth.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know that this is the move and I think there are a lot of options available to him right now.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that he's maybe not not looking at it that way.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the big thing.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's how has he framed this week for himself and how does he see it?

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the way he sees it, he's looking at building a new power structure with potentially seven out of the last 10 people left.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And that makes a lot of those people end up being assets to him that he's not even considering for the block.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the way that if I was to pull myself in Quinn shoes, first thing I'd say is whoa.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of thoughts going in my head, a lot of references.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I really love Jay suddenly.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But then I would go beyond that and I think okay, so I want Rubina out because Rubina is the reason a lot of my life turned upside down in this house

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: because Cedric went out because my alliances really wanted Rubina to stay.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So much so that they are trio now, T-Core, Kimo and Rubina.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: A very strong trio, maybe stronger than my visionaries.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if I take out Rubina, I have these two working with me now potentially.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: On the other end, I have Cam and Chelsea that are working with me.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be the one to take out Angela because as much as I wanted Angela out, no one listened to me and now I'm not going to waste my one, my opportunity here on her.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Mackenzie, I feel like I can build something with her.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah, oh my God, Leah, she's so beautiful.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Snutes, we're so good together.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We could be something.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And Joseph, he is my person that I can fan about the show whenever we need to.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: He's great.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He loved Tucker a little too much, but Tucker is gone now.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I can be his new Tucker.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So you know what I mean?

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can see where he's looking at, at it with.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also agree with your points that Rubina would be a vote for him.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I also agree that Rubina is someone that he can pull back in.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that ultimately the way he's framing it, I think he doesn't see a path moving forward there with those three intact because I think he thinks if he goes with those three, he's in the bottom of it, which they've made a very good job of making him feel that way for the last week.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we can have anyway.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's fair.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But like, I think that those because they're a trio, I think they are so easily targeted over him.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone else will put them up.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to be the one to do it.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that point.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And worst case scenario, he does get down toward the end with them.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He's better at comps for them.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good group of people to be competing against an end game competition as opposed to MJ, Cam and Leah or MJ, Cam and Chelsea.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Those are way more dangerous people to be competing in end game.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't trust that he has enough influence there.

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea is too powerful a player.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that she could easily steal MJ from him if she really tried.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So like, you know, I think that like again, you are now you were at the final 10.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_02]: The end game usually kicks in at like final eight, final seven.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You really want to make sure you are prepped for that end game and that you are taking the right people with you.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And at the very least, just like take a second to think through your options and talk to people and gather some information and see what kind of paths are available to you before you just immediately decide,

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_02]: well, this is where I have to go here.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And I obviously can't do this in the narrative of the house is this.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I need to do this.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't hate some of the decisions he's making, but I do think that he's overlooking some big threats to his long term game.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think those threats are spelled C H E L S I E.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, arguably someone who he seems like and feels like is trying to work with them almost the most.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: One of the top candidates for him, I think that he's looking at.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, he talks to Chelsea and he says that he talks about like a good reason for nominations is the fact that Tucker was trying to lie to him about the vote and whoever knew about that is basically their game.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be a good reason to put people up.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea says that she she's she try you know they talk about Joseph in his final two with Tucker.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that like, all all Joseph has done so far is convince people that he was loyal to Tucker and that like Tucker, which makes him look like a worst player.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And that the people are like, Oh, he would have he would have gone to the end with.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn is annoyed that they wanted to keep Angela over MJ in the first place like, come on, you do not see this.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: He tells her that he did get a little bit worried that things weren't going to be on today that she might have backed out but he appreciates that she stuck with her word and that they pulled this off.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: They agree that they should go to the end together. This should be something that they they make happen.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He says that he would love to build an alliance with her cam and T core.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And he thinks that they can also work with Joseph but he's going to have to stop throwing competitions.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And, and he also thinks that they should include MJ because she's never been included in things and so he's looking at building this this group up.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then you know we in the stock watch you all did talk about how if MacKenzie stays.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That's huge for Chelsea. And I think this moment is also huge for Chelsea because him saying MacKenzie someone we can work with this kind of should be music that Chelsea's ears.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: This is somebody that doesn't really have a home or a place to go or anything solid.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You are now gifting her that since week one, you know since the BS alliance, you're giving her her first real treat in the game.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's it's coming a lot more. You are willing to bring her in and a lot less.

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I beg you please let me be here and please let me be at the bottom like Angela's was.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I want to talk a little bit about the MJ thing will again be talking about it throughout but like I just I don't.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't love him basically signaling what he's about to do to smart players like Chelsea and even Cam like Cam understood the value of Leah and MJ last week.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm sure he's hearing Quinn say these things and being like, I know what you're up to because like when you tell Chelsea like hey I think we can bring MJ and she hasn't been included in things before you're basically letting Chelsea know

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: hey you should go to MJ and can be your head on her and being be the one to pull her in like Quinn should be going to MJ in secret like hey I think the two of us like I'm H OH right now.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I really want to protect you.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I really like I was a vote to keep you they were going to all going to lie to me and vote you out.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like the way that you've been treated. The two of us can secretly start working together and, you know, you can still have her brought in.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You can still make sure that she's protected but like, again, just don't don't be like, like, hey, is there some gold over there in that mind.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think there's some gold over there I should we go.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go get that gold.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to signal it.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, rookie you let them walk away or look away then you quickly grab it like that's really should be the move.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But you're not wrong giving giving this kind of information to savvy players whether or not they're your trusted allies even if they're your closest ally essentially gives them the opening to start that without you and always be seen as the first person to have done it,

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: especially because unless Quinn you're going to ask for Mackenzie to be in the one on one immediately after this, you're giving Chelsea ample time to make some movements here.

[00:36:17] Yeah.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well,

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: in the meantime, Joseph is talking to Leah.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He initially is trying to prevent Rubina and chemo from going up on the block because he feels like he wants that trio to stick around.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_02]: He thinks that they can still work with those three.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And I do like this instinct from Joseph.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's what I think Quinn should probably be doing although it's less effective from Joseph because they don't like Joseph as much as Quinn.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's almost like again, like they're just reversing like Joseph has the right idea for Quinn and Quinn has maybe a better idea for Joseph but it is what it is.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where he's at at that moment we'll talk more about Joseph later.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea goes to T core and says that she has she's you know talked to Quinn and he thinks Angela is going to go up she she goes with Quinn's narrative.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: This is you know she's she's doing a solid here for Quinn.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_02]: She says I think Quinn's upset about the lies about the Angela vote.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that that could impact the nominations and they end up getting around to the fact that it might be something like Rubina and chemo.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_02]: T core agrees that voting out Tucker was the right move.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And and Chelsea lets T core know that when is looking to form some some kind of alliance.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know this is well played by T core, you know, making sure that Chelsea doesn't feel like she's upset at her in any way or even Quinn.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And and you know, T core certainly has this this parachute this this escape hatch to the position that she was in.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's basically everything she was wanting or could have wanted to do by taking Tucker out not alienating any of her allies and still having plenty of in with the rest of the house.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_02]: The only problem is that Quinn is now looking at targeting Rubina and that is where she is like, oh, that is not what I wanted.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's where they that's where they are.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I T core I feel like the aura she has speaks for itself you know being the outgoing H OH and having no one look at you and everyone look at your allies is truly a gift in my opinion.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think on the other side of that when you look at it a little deeper, I feel like T core also kind of.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go back to the buffet term we've done this before it's like it's like you got to know what what's on the menu at a buffet and you can have whatever you want.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But they're refilling one of the stations that's not available that that item you want is not there and you're like that's nonsense.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I want all the items.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I want all of them T course in that spot because I genuinely feel like there's so many places to go can go.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She has this built alliance that's waiting for her to be a part of it on the wings.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: She even if one of chemo or Rubina would go she still has the other moving forward, but I don't think she wants to budge.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And I say that not saying that she's going to go scorched earth and like really prevent it from happening, but she's going to be upset about it at the very least.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_01]: She's going to definitely have to show discomfort about it.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: What is she going to do with that?

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much is she going to want to spend to try and keep both of them safe?

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But ultimately, I think what was clear to me was that both T core and Chelsea and their one on ones did find out that Rubina was going to be on the block.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Neither bring it up to each other.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And I felt like throughout the rest of the night before all the one on ones were wrapped up, all T core tried to do was pump up these two Rubina chemo to hey, bring the passion in your one on ones.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: We need to advocate for ourselves because I think she's going to fight tooth and nail to make sure that both of them are safe this week as well as her other avenues being open.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Quinn talks to Leah and this is long.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So listen to my best before you do your best and have to, you know, relive a lot of these things.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to make a note that up until this point, every one on one was like three minutes.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It was so quick.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So to the point.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So succinct.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And now we get to the 50 minute segment that was this one on one.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Taryn take it away.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean he asked her who to put up.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_02]: She says not me.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He says he and he's like, well, I have heard you've been saying my name.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, yeah, that's weird.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But so anyway, I was talking to Tucker and how he was doing things.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, okay, okay.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But but like I have I've heard that you're like kind of wary of me and that, you know, I really, really, really, really, really want to trust you.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, when I swear I would never go against you.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker was trying to pin us against each other because I think she thinks that Tucker is the one that told Quinn about this stuff.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, you know, and honestly, like at this point, you know, I can't promise you any more than I already have.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't trust me that that's on you, you know, and and just so you know also MJ said a bunch to such a bunch of people that you told her she would say, I don't know if you wanted to do that or anything.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, that's yeah, that's fine.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I just I just Leah when I talked to people and now I'm getting Anthony and spicy flashbacks he's like when I talk to people.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I make sure to like deflect your name.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't bring up your name to people she's like, I do the same.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I totally do the same.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's honestly hurtful that people would even say that I'm doing this stuff against you.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And and so you can see that Quinn is it got in Quinn's head is skeptical.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he believes T I do.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that he believes that she was saying these things.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's trying to get something from her here.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And she's not giving it to him.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And he now has to just accept like, am I actually going to press this and have to reevaluate my strategic positioning in the game and reevaluate my relationship with Leah?

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Or do I just ignore it and move forward?

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: The number of times Quinn said, I am so good for your game.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I am absolutely good for you.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said this last time, if you were tuned in at that moment to the feeds, you would have thought Leah is the Hoh and he's trying to stay off the block like it genuinely felt that way.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But I 100% agree with you.

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like every like I think some of the stuff T chorus told him has stuck.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he definitely is doubting how strong this connection is slash how much he trusts this connection.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But also when Leah is just denied deny denying to his face.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Does he really want to keep arguing this point?

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Does he really want to keep going through it when she's not going to give him an inch to move with here?

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, on the off chance that you're wrong now, you're just look stupid.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But also even if you're right and she keeps denying it, it doesn't serve any purpose to you but make a relationship here feel awkward.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So all of the best he can do is I'm so good for your game.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You have no idea.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But also, Taryn, I feel like I feel like you you decringe this a little bit.

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you definitely you you miss this first we have to talk about it because in the beginning of the conversation, it was kind of shmoopy a little bit.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah's like, is that mean if we celebrate right now they do a little celebration.

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But then this was my the cringe part for me.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah looks at Quinn in the face first she says I have a hard time maintaining eye contact but I'm going to try for you.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she's like, I've been saving something for you.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And Quinn was like, oh yeah, what is that?

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And she said, I'm genuinely excited for you.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And I swear, Skippy felt cringe and immediately swapped all four cameras into the bathroom.

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Skippy was like, we all need a break.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: We need to pick ourselves up and move on.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is kind of the energy the conversation was coming in with and then Quinn's trying to pepper in of like, I feel like you've been saying my name.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Or like it's been coming up.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_01]: People have been telling me to be wary about you and I don't know why they would do that otherwise.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm really, really, really, really, really, really good for your game.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So now we've added all those filters in Terran.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So people have a you are nice thing the people but my rule is if I see it so do you kind of vibes, you know, let's be real.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is all it takes with Quinn, apparently.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this, this is this is what this is what he's like.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that was a good one that she really does care about me.

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She did.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_02]: She saved it for him.

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: She saved it for him.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's here's the thing.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the thing with Quinn and it's what he said to T core the night before like, I don't understand this woman.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't she get that like this is not a smart thing for her to do?

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she's a she's really smart.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: How would she?

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Why would she be doing this?

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So I think in Quinn's mind, it's like, oh, well, if I just convince her that I am good for her game, then she will stop doing this.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And I won't have to deal with any of it.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: If I can just convince her that like the smart move is to not throw him under the bus because he is valuable to her in the game.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Then she will stop doing it.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And what he doesn't understand is that she just doesn't like him as a person.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It ain't about the game.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the game value aside, it's the Ick.

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The Ick is unshakable.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's one thing to consider.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But also I feel like Leah needs to be given her credit with some of these guys.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The one on ones are working.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: She has this energy there that she kind of turns them putty a little bit.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like even when they come in with the plan or the feeling of you've been lying or you've been doing ABCD, whatever,

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: we've seen this happen with multiple of them.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember, you know, a couple, we were on the live feed update when we had to talk about how Cam became the where's my hug guy after wanting to confront her about some of the things she was saying.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn is kind of feeling the same thing.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think Leah's doing a good job there.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't even, I'm not even saying it's for game.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I just think that's kind of the characteristic that she's very good with.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But then on the other end, Quinn is 25 years old with a crush.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know how much rose colored glasses you'll have on sometimes when you have some of these crushes, you want to believe that it's the fairy tale in your head.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You do.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You do.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've seen some people take him to task for this.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But I tell you, I feel like if there were 100 cameras on me and I had a crush that I thought could be real, I don't think I would be able to fake the funk.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about this person.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I would.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I would be putty too.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I would.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that I'd be to this level of putty where a pun is going to change my life.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but I kind of get it in a little, a little sense.

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You just think that like the crush would need to be reciprocated.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like if the crush was reciprocated, I get it.

[00:47:16] Right?

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I get Rubina.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I do.

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a relationship that might go somewhere.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a crush from somebody that doesn't even like you.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be positive.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to talk too negatively on it, but that's the, this is the thing.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think ultimately to bring it back to the game, I think he doesn't want it to be true because it'll be a lot more complicated if it was.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think even with the confrontation, if she gave him something, he could maybe work something out of it.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But right now it would just cost too many ripples into what his grand plan is potentially.

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well they talked some about Joseph and how he had a final two with Tucker.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: She says she still trusts him even though he had a final two with Tucker.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker's gone now.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So Quinn says Joseph will always choose himself over anyone else though.

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So look out for that.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_02]: He is annoyed that Joseph constantly acts like he's a better player than everyone else.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's smart, but he's like, come on.

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And she suggests Kimo and Rabina as nominations.

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't think Kimo likes her or trusts her very much, but she loves decor.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And this I think is something to look out for especially as we're looking at potential chemo Rabina Angela nominations.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, Leah's going to be looking out for Angela.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_02]: They talk about that.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: There was also an Angela conversation by the way it just really is really didn't go anywhere.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Although she did come back during this conversation to be like, Hey, by the way, just in case you thought that I was saying anybody's name in particular like Joseph.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't doing that.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not what I was trying to do, which was very funny.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But but worth noting that we've again, this is something that we were tracking last week that Leah has been told and has been getting vibes that Kimo doesn't like her doesn't really trust her, which is true.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Kimo does not really like her or trust her.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And I expect that she will be pushing for a chemo eviction this week if she has any sway.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So look out for that.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and Quinn immediately when she brought up Kimo's music, you know, Kimo doesn't trust you like yeah Quinn gave her that as well the confirmation there.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I really want to quickly talk about this Angela moment where she runs up the stairs panting a little bit to clarify on her 90 second one on one what it that she did.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It mean Joseph, but throughout this conversation.

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing Quinn is doing with Leah is every time Angela's name comes up, he's like, That's your girl.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's your girl Angela and she's clearly getting irritated with this.

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So then later when Angela comes up and does the same thing, she walks away and Quinn's like, That's your girl right there Angela.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That was so funny to me.

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was the lack of sleep or what but I was I was in stitches.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely loved it.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I think at one point they called her her employee, something like that.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's, it's you know everyone knows because this is a funny secret secret final to between Leah and Angela because it didn't like their strategic relationship didn't really exist until Angela like made it clear to the whole house that Leah is her favorite person.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they made their final two.

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So, like everyone knows that they're together.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very, it's very obvious.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, all right so they do the H o H room Quinn talks to Joseph.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And they you know they do their thing.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph tells Quinn about his final talker and the sixth avenue and everything going on there and how moving forward like they're going to be even tighter they're going to be working together no doubt two of them.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And, oh but we'll keep acting like we don't like each other.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And that'll be easy because Joseph doesn't actually like Quinn and and and Joseph.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean man, I feel like I'm in Joseph bed.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He was last night I was like, he's going to tell everyone about his final two with Tucker, and he's going to latch right on the cam and wouldn't you know it he's like man we should keep camera round as a shield I think that's going to be great move for us.

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn is so, you know, almost instantly yeah like clockwork you definitely called your shot there and I think it landed.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they also talk about this alliance that the Quinn's trying to build an alliance of essentially seven, which means everyone in the house that Quinn doesn't plan to nominate on a season where set six weeks in a row the veto has been used every week.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So, meaning you're going to probably nominate a fourth meaning if you built something you might have to immediately put someone up but also it's the same house where people volunteer so who knows who knows maybe he's fine.

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Quinn says that chemo clearly has been prioritizing Tucker over him so he does not feel bad about putting him on the block.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to Joseph's face who I feel like should also take that as a I've been doing that too I'm kind of guilty of this crime that you speak of because you kind of have as well.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So, Ticor talks some more with chemo she's concerned that it's going to be like it was with the collective and Quinn is just going to put people on the block that were associated with Tucker in the same way that people from the collective are put on the block that we're associated with Cedric after that flip.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And chemo is like I'm just kind of confused. Like, is this not going to be a thing anymore like the visionaries and Ticor is like, I don't know I might just be manifesting a thing that isn't happening but I just know that no matter what I'm not going to lose you or Rubina.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not going to let that happen. And chemo is like, well, is it possible that when just hasn't trusted us for a long time now and he's just been pending.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And Ticor was like at the end of the day when voting out Tucker was the right thing to do even this morning the way Tucker was treating him my hypothesis is that Quinn has been is looking to form something this week but hasn't formed something yet.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a hypothesis informed by the fact that that's what Chelsea told me.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly. That's something like when she was speaking at any point to either chemo or Rubina it was very much a she has all the information so she's trying to lead you there without telling you any of the stuff.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Classic. Yeah.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: She says between the two of us if Quinn does put you and Rubina on the block.

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_02]: He's shooting the top of my list, my enemy list and chemo says same.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well get ready to put them on that list because that's what's going to happen.

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be here's the thing for me, Teran so Angela Rubina chemo going up on the block let's say for the first time in this season's history.

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Vito doesn't get used and these are the three on the block.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be a very interesting situation because forget what Quinn wants. Where do you think Chelsea is going of the three who's Chelsea who does Chelsea want out?

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she's fine taking Rubina out. I don't think she feels the need to flip this vote against chemo if Quinn doesn't want chemo out and he prefer Rubina.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like Chelsea has a much stronger relationship with either one of Rubina or chemo.

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. I'm assuming that T-Cora will sooner lose Rubina than chemo also.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that she will move in that direction.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of people will be happy to let Rubina go except for Leah who I think would push for chemo.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that Leah has the pull unless she finds an ally who also wants that.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm interested in seeing how this will play out this week because the idea of making a seven person alliance when there's 10 people that first of all is a lot.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You're acting like this is week one. This is a lot.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But the other thing is you're making a seven person alliance with somebody who is very closely aligned with two out of the three people you're leaving out of this alliance

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and somebody who's not going to want to go silently and let those two just leave.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And then my question becomes how much does T-Cora try and put in the work to flip this and would she even be able to that part?

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. She has to use a lot of social capital to try and do that.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I guess maybe. The thing is Angela's the factor here that's on the block and on a dime Angela could make everyone want to vote her out.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So it really comes down to how much does Angela get an Angela's way if anything.

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I mean, I think it will be tough to see Angela leave this week. There's just not a lot of reason to do that.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, T-Cork could try to use pull with Chelsea. And if she is able to get Chelsea, then with Chelsea comes Cam.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the key.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_02]: There will be seven votes so they need four. And where do they get that fourth?

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_01]: If we'll either Kim or Rubina coming off the block through AI to do it.

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. Yeah. So yeah, if T-Cork can pull Cam and Chelsea and would they do that? Actually, why not? Why wouldn't they do that?

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Like turn on Quinn. He can't win the HOH next week.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And now all of a sudden you don't have to deal with Quinn who's clearly a bit of a comp threat.

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Leah or Joseph will care about Quinn. They might be annoyed that Angela is gone, but it's not like they're going to be able to like actually maybe they will actually try to team up with Quinn.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But oh well, it's Joseph, Leah and Quinn versus Chelsea, Cam, T-Cork, Rubina, Kimo and where's Mackenzie and all of that?

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I bet Chelsea and Cam can pull her. So you know, it's not a bad play for Chelsea and Cam to be able to get that trio on their side if that's an option for them.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the thing. I think this week we'll boil down to will Chelsea budge and will T-Cork push enough that Chelsea does budge?

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Or my budge, I don't mean that she's stuck on. She wants something to happen right now, but I mean convinced to go in that direction.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I'm intrigued quite a bit. Now the only other question I have left Taren is if the V who's the nominee if a veto gets used here for you?

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Quinn wants to volunteer.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know man with this season two people haven't gone up as volunteers. Good luck.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But again, obviously the answer is Leah.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's who it should be. Will it be Leah? I at this point probably not.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And if it's not Leah, who is it?

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean the other option is probably like, you know, send T-Cork home at that point quite honestly.

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, if one of them comes down, send T-Cork, put T-Cork up there and then try to actually get the votes to send T-Cork out.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Again, it might be tough, but I do think that's better for you if you can make it happen.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Although at that point it's the wrong people might be on the block board.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, or again, you could you could flip and you could go okay, actually why you can't really put Cam up because AI arena.

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But you could try to backdoor Chelsea if she won an AI arena.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's hard to make big plays like that. It's hard to go after one side and then flip the other.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you either try to take out Leah or you try to take out T-Cork.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the play from there, but I think that he'll still want Rubina out.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Try to just put up another pawn.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which like you've promised it to a lot of people at this point.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like I don't know how okay, I don't think Mackenzie would be okay with going up after both the promise and the even if you bring her in the Alliance.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: She knows that she would have been gone the two times that she's won AI arena, that she was the one going home.

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think she's gonna be feeling comfortable no matter what you say there.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think again, when's best move right now would be to win Vito and not have to do anything else this week.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Then it's more of a com thread.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I hate the idea of winning HOH and Vito as soon as Tucker goes home.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_02]: He should have a plan that doesn't require him winning Vito.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: He should be throwing that Vito every day of the week as far as I'm concerned.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I really, I think if he like don't put yourself in a scenario where you have to win the Vito in order to not be screwed on your HOH train.

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I think that like if Quinn wins a second comp in a row, he will have Chelsea and Cam looking at him sideways.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_02]: He will have a lot of people starting to look him like oh because he doesn't quite have the the stature yet to be like to be in the Tucker position where it's like well we can't beat him.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: We might as well join him.

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He's in that like seed stage of oh he looks like he might become a big threat.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's take him out before he can and you could see something happen against him soon.

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that what you want to do is not win the Vito now and then win something next week and then win HOH or something like that.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you spread the winds out so that you're just constantly safe.

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what usually does wonders for you socially.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know winning the two I think is tricky.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's in a perfect world for him.

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: The Vito drug gives him two people who are his allies who will not use the Vito if they would.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the perfect storm for him.

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I did see someone ask who were the other contenders for HOH.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe the closest other two that I heard of were Kimo and Leah.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I heard.

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Kim also I think was doing well but struggled.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like allergic to eggs, I believe.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Messed up man.

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Why are we doing it this season then?

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Here I think best case scenario for Quinn he should be trying to get Kim picked for Vito every single with every single available possible option.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And then if Kim won the Vito kept things the same that's like super, super great for Quinn.

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Because now Cam looks like the Vito threat.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Now Cam looks like the comp guy.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry I said Kimo but yeah Kimo became a have not.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Was that because or what?

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know exactly how the have not thing work because it sounds like was it first person to drop X amount of eggs and then you just keep competing.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what they yeah I was confused.

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They definitely indicated that Kimo did well but maybe it's maybe they just like did well for Kimo.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know because the have nots are Kimo and Mackenzie and the implication to me was that if you dropped X amount of eggs you would be have not because at one point Angela in the comp tells Chelsea hey if you drop this and become a have not and I would HOH I won't put you up.

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know how I don't think you got eliminated for finishing your eggs or whatever so I gotta imagine oh damn I was the first one to drop 10 eggs.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I gotta keep powering through but I'm have not moving forward.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know I'm not sure.

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he was he was going through his feelings for being both losing Tucker and being a have not again he was going through the motions last night.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Well T-Core does talk to Ruben.

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean she talks to both Rubina and and Kimo about like how they should approach when Rubina goes to Quinn.

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And she says honestly I'm grateful Tucker's not here anymore it's better for everyone's game.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He was hard to beat and he played the game so dumb he would not freaking listen.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And Quinn's like yes that's why I voted for him to go and really like the whole conversation is Rubina doing her best to like stunk on Tucker as much as possible and make it seem as you know OK as possible that that it happened and that she's not upset about it which is what she needs to do.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately for her Quinn has already made the decision you know this needed to happen earlier but that's tough to do when you're still kind of reeling from the thing.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He does tell Rubina he wants Angela gone.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's been trying to get her gone for a while he doesn't want her in the jury he's going to make it abundantly clear in his speech that he wants Angela out.

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: He you know when he when the jury talks to Dr. Will he doesn't want Angela there he wants people that are going to be like rational and make a good decision.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't think that Angela is one of those people and so he's really trying to drive home the point that he wants Angela gone to Rubina and then eventually Kimo as well.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bad plan because of the ride he's had with Angela this whole season so that's fine and that would work if not for the fact that they've basically decided if you put us up you're dead to us.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So like that doesn't matter.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like as much as you're saying Angela Angela Angela they're still going to feel a type of way that they're going on that block you know unfortunately for you.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Now he does they do talk some more about Tucker and I thought this was an interesting moment like he starts tearing up talking about how much it hurt to like to have this guy just not like him and then see that like he really likes this guy and looks up to him and

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: respects him and like no matter what he did the guy just didn't like him like as a person.

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And and he's you know he's had a few what was it twisted he's at this point.

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah so he's definitely a little a little tipsy here but it was it was I think definitely a genuine insight from from Quinn and to like his relationship with Tucker.

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh for sure and we did we had a very emotional HOH session right after he gets his HOH room and the last of the letters were read the twist the T's were shotguned they were sitting around talking about different things and Quinn had this like very vocal self actualization

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: moment that he shared with everybody about how he you know coming on to the show he was worried about not fitting in and he definitely feels like his favorites that he's enjoyed watching the show will probably not mesh with him well and that's a hard thing

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like I've seen some things Quinn you might be on point with this one but he's definitely running through the he's going through the feelings mill I mean again big fan of the show has this HOH win now guarantee jury to his calculation.

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a bit of an emotional night for him and and he somewhat wins the battle between Tucker who was literally coming for his neck for a couple weeks here so we're keeping in mind.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So T core asks Rubina how the conversation with when went Rubina says I did my best to make when understand that I'm okay with the move she can I can only do help so much to help them understand but I do think I might go up.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: She says that you know Angela is the target so if there's a week to go up and feel a little bit okay.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I'm not scared.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And so so Rubina has bought it and she's actually like not that upset about going up in the block at least you know in terms of like trying to be okay with it as much as possible for herself but T core is like it's a mistake mistake put you and chemo up.

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: She's T core is not happy which saying it's a mistake is one thing T core I go back in for another one on one with him.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And tell him it's a mistake tell him who we should put up like push that push the if you really feel that way push the envelope because I feel like to just sit there and say it's a mistake it's a mistake you're letting it pass you by you're letting it become a mistake the moms haven't happened yet.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They have not happened yet it's still it's still within your power to maybe change that up if you're really about to do something about it because otherwise like he's really just doing what happened two weeks ago to him so.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I did like that Rubina and chemo were talking earlier in the night and Rubino is like Tucker and Quinn are very similar and they didn't even realize it they don't even realize it.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean there two H O H is right now about to look very similar to to what they had done, although for Tucker I would say it wasn't that much of a bad move to put the knobs he put up.

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Quinn talks to chemo. He also tells chemo doesn't want Angela on the jury. He says that you know Angela is his target chemo says I hope you understand that I never want you to feel like I was choosing Tucker over you.

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I always tried to protect you as much as I could but man chemo slips up so much in this conversation, the way that he talks about it. He's like, I was always like, you know, like we always tried to protect you.

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean we always did protect I mean I always did protect you as much as possible in those conversations that we were having about you.

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, oh boy like this was this is full of landmines. And he eventually is like am I going up and he's like and Quinn's like well if you do I want you to know I want you to stay with the narrative of the house right now I don't want to make more people pissed off at me but I don't want you or Rubina to go.

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And chemo is like well what happens if Angela wins the veto miraculously and Quinn says well unfortunately Rubina would have to go.

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what else is he going to say at that point. The good question asked from chemo I will say you know always bring that up like what happens if the main plan goes away whose plan number two.

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great question to ask because sometimes people are stupid enough to answer.

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they don't have this sometimes they don't have that answer ready so they'll just give you what they're actually thinking.

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So then we see Quinn and MJ have a conversation and this is the conversation that they needed to have ideally more secretively but they do have it here.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: She comes up she said I wanted to say good night he's and he's like well let's check.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And he says listen I heard week three that you would have put me on the block I don't really care she's like I don't think so I don't think I said that in week three I'm pretty sure I said in week four.

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for the clarification.

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like either way I don't mind.

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He talks about Tucker lying about the vote with her against Angela.

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ talks about Rubina and how she was trying to form a women's alliance but then she was siding with Tucker and all things and that was disappointing to her.

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know there's discussion about building a group out with with you know these seven people and she's like you want you'd want to include PCOR in this group when.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Hemo and Rubina are not in it. You know she spends all their all her time with them right.

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Together listen the core would be like you me and you me Chelsea Cam like that's like a good quote like we did a hard thing today.

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We voted out Tucker together like that would be the core and she's like I'm down for that.

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's a long conversation. It's a lot of what I already said Quinn was should say to MJ about feeling bad for her being on the outs and how they should be working together and so on and so forth.

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You know I'm very curious to see if Quinn actually starts sharing information with MJ like how does MJ operate in a game where she's getting actual information.

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: She's never gotten actual and she's made her own up and spread that around but.

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: She's never gotten the house.

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly produced.

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm very I this is potentially the first real in she has now I know we know that Quinn has had trouble maintaining these connections in the past and he really he just jumps all in and then drifts away.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And so like can he actually pick MJ up does he have the chops to do it.

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And if so this would be very good for MJ she should also be trying to maintain this because when we'll actually give her way too much information and she can actually start operating in the game in a good way.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean a lot of people are now looking at her as an asset especially because they all know she's safe this week.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And so this is a this is a huge opportunity for MJ to really start getting in on things and learning information.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really excited to see what she's capable of.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I am very I'm very keen to see how this plays out as well.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I'm being very honest here.

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ has been somewhat of a non factor for me outside of these funny moments where she's just has this misread and spreads it and sometimes it was picking up some traction.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like her not having any connections or not being in anything was really hard to have a vested interest in any of her maneuvers on feeds.

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually intrigued now.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's some some fun stuff here.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my thing is coming into this week there was really like one or two people that I really felt like content with leaving because they're not giving me anything.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: There's potential for everyone to give a little some now.

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a lot of potential here and that's why I'm still very optimistic and excited to see where the season goes.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's going to be people that are definitely still upset about last night which is fair.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the biggest entertainer slash player slash person was doing most of the work to make the fires is gone.

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I still think there's so much more to go.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It isn't often we get to the midway point and it's like there's still so much steam left.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes we're out of steam at this one.

[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We're on fumes already.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we're on fumes yet.

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So let's keep positive.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see next week when I'm here we'll see if I'm keeping the same energy who knows maybe I'm not right now.

[01:14:15] Yeah.

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: One final thing as well Joseph and Leah kept talking through the night and they lock in their final two sort of even more especially now that Tucker is gone.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Joseph is ready to like actually commit to Leah and you know they've got a name.

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's cool.

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's great in the children.

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this name Taren killed them.

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_02]: They're the children.

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_02]: He's such a he's such a Dr. Will guy like you like you really you really got to bite on his name now.

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think after seeing the tweets from Dr. Will this morning saying that he said listen I'm a I'm the jury person for the final round table.

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I try and keep on bias but I got to say Tucker played one of the best games we've seen in many years entertaining whatever when when when Joseph sees that he might he might go back to the man cave and kind of not come out for a little bit.

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He might be a little I was feeling taken.

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think of the name children Taren what do you think of the name children.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Shelton was better.

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Shelton was better.

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean neither are good to be clear.

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Children.

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't even roll off the tongue well it doesn't it looks weird on paper.

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds weird saying it.

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah all good in the children.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Nope that doesn't work.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And the nope nope mushroom children.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Nope kingdom children.

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to give them one more worth worth considering that like being an active Doctor Will proponent on the feeds and that that may be getting back to Dr. Will and then Dr. Will hosting the jury round table.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Not the worst idea.

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That'd be fun.

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know like please he's like I don't I don't play favorites.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like to influence anyone but clearly he has some favorites so.

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying.

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So they talk for a while. It's a lot of Joseph just again explaining the game all over again.

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: This is where I did this and he's talking about, oh, I saved Quinn by telling Tucker that he sucks

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: at the game and so on and so forth. And so just expect more long conversations.

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I, in the one on one with Leah, one of the things that Quinn brings up about

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Joseph to Leah was that, yeah, Joseph exaggerates a lot of his game. He's doing the same things

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing just getting caught for some of them. And then later somewhat, I believe was it a

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: conversation Chelsea was having where they talked about how Joseph just adds things to his game

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: resume and what he's been doing. This is one of those moments where I think Joseph is

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: type of guy who he's a very good on the spin team where he's looking at his game. He's like,

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: how can I promote this as a good thing? And then he'll push that to make it seem like it's the

[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: best narrative. The problem is when you're pushing a lot of different things as being good

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're putting this front that you're playing the perfect game and no one sees it

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: as that because your standing doesn't match your resume that you're putting out there.

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not good because it'll just come off like you're lying about stuff.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm hmm. Yeah, so that's about it. That's what that's what I've got from last night.

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Pui anything else that you wanted to bring up?

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Not quite. Oh actually, God, unfortunately, yes. First of all, this is not the unfortunate part.

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Quinn's music for the week. Tezo touchdown. Great choice in my opinion. I know Chappelle's

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: happy somewhere as well. But, Taryn, I may have been a little bit tapped out for this past week

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: on feeds on the daily tip. I've been keeping up with the updates and still like looking a little

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: bit but not as in depth. I need to ask you a question. I need to know the answer to this.

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Did we know going into the age when everyone was hanging out in the age of age last night

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: that everybody knew what Joseph did in that tent or did we only assume he had told camp?

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm pretty sure. Listen, this is not something that I tried hard to track.

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fair. But I do recall that he was, this was definitely talked about.

[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he kind of threw away commented it because they were talking about who they would text if

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: they could send a text. They go tell my mom I crapped in a tent and then silenced and he

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: was like and did all the stuff. And then I was like, Joseph, I cannot believe you told the entire

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: house this. He tells everything. Some things you take to your grave. Okay. This should have been

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: one of them. You told one person I thought it was too much. Now you told everybody.

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, couldn't be me. All right. Um, I think that's what we have for you then today.

[01:19:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all so much for joining us. I will be back tomorrow morning 11am Eastern

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: to update on everything that happens today on the big brother 26 live feeds. We'll see what comes

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: of this new alliance, uh, the nominations and all of that good stuff. So stay tuned for that.

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I will also be back with Rob for the patron Q and a you can watch it if you're not a patron

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: live, no replays. Um, you can watch it live. It's going to start in like 10 minutes.

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, listen, dude, uh, we're doing an early Q and a so, uh, this is, here's what's going to happen

[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: right after this ends. The Tucker interview is going to, going to drop. Uh, as you can watch that

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and then pretty much right after that, we're going to be live again for the Q and a, uh,

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: if you're a patron, you can call in. If you're not, you can watch it live. That is

[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: planned today. And then tomorrow, uh, 11am Eastern for the update. So, uh, plenty of stuff

[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: coming your way. You can also find me over on Twitch watching these episodes live with all of you.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You can see my reaction to Tucker losing the AI arena. I was genuine disbelief. Uh, so that's

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_02]: what you can do over there. Puyah, what are you going on?

[01:20:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I can be found on Twitter at Puyahism on Twitch.com. I'll be live tonight at 10 as we

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: do on Friday nights and Eastern. We have a good time. And then Sunday we'll be playing

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Goose Goose Duck at 5pm Eastern as well. That's still going strong. As far as podcast go,

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: night of day fiancee happily rafter is officially over. Just put out the last episode with Kirsten.

[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking the premiere of night of day fiancees before the 90 days this week.

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Liana is my guest making her grand return to the, to the podcast. I'm excited about that.

[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll leave you all with one bit of recommendation. I've been, I've been

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: enjoying doing this during the big brother season. If the feeds are down and you're

[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: looking for a new show to dip into, give the anonymous a try. It's been very fun so far.

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been enjoying it a lot and I think you will too. And also check out recap kickback.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Shephael and I talking about Bel Air season three.

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_02]: All right. Uh, we are going to start the, uh, the rings of power recapped over at scripted,

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_02]: we know scripted TV as well. If you're a Lord of the Rings, rings of power person,

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Grace and I are going to start recording that as soon as I'm able to watch all three

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: of these like hour and a half episodes. So stay tuned. All right. Thank you all so much

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: for joining us here today. And I will see all of you next time.