Izzy Gleicher Talks BB28 Unlocked Week 2

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[00:02:26] What's up, fam? We are back for the first, I guess, panel discussion for Big Brother Unlocked this season. Last, what, two weeks ago, I was here with Taran and Rob as they passed me the reins to talk about this show. And I think the headline of tonight is that Big Brother Unlocked is good? Question mark? And so to talk about that with me, I brought this amazing panel. I guess I will go first with my co-host in many things in life, Jenny Autumn. Jenny, welcome back.

[00:02:56] Welcome for the first time, I guess. Yeah. I don't understand what I'm doing because I thought that I was like, I thought this was very fitting for me to be here because it's like the useless thing that like, you know, no one cares about. But it turns out it's good. So I'm like, I'm actually very honored to be here. I was anyway. I just came to hang out because I was like, this is a vibes panel. I'm very happy. This is a vibes panel for a vibes show.

[00:03:23] And with me, I guess with us joining us for this panel, we had to go to a fellow chaos demon, my sibling, Izzy Fields. Welcome, Izzy. What up? You know, I'm so happy that they saved the pre-jurors for the Unlocked episodes, you know. Really, you know, the like hard hitting, many follows, you know, like and follow. Yes. Anyway, I'm stoked to be here. I'm stoked to talk about this. I'm actually so happy to talk about this episode. It's probably the only episode of Unlocked I'm going to watch. No, I'm kidding.

[00:03:55] Because of the Jason segment. So we'll get into it. But I'm like super happy that they did that. And so I'm happy that I'm here to talk about it, honestly. Yeah. Thank you for joining us. And thank you to the chat for being here. I see people are popping. And I didn't really expect that because last season we talked about Big Brother Unlocked and we were like, ah, this ain't really. It's not giving us what we needed. You know, people have their complaints. This season, this season, they're holding it hostage. They're saying, look, you can't know about the powers unless you watch Unlocked.

[00:04:25] You get the family visits on Unlocked. Jenny is Unlocked good. It could be too soon to say. I will say it makes me uncomfortable watching it. But that is, you know, therapy would probably teach you. Sometimes it's good to feel uncomfortable. You might learn things. And I feel like we learned things tonight.

[00:04:51] We learned things about, you know, stuff that's going on in the house that's not being shown on the show regular. We learned some things to come. I truly do feel like you'll miss things if you don't watch BB Unlocked. So it could be good, but a little, still a little uncomfortable. Yeah. The chat saying greatly improved. And I probably agree with that. But Izzy, you mentioned it already.

[00:05:18] We got the Jason story, the family visit, I guess, or the Big Brother version of that. But you wouldn't have got the Jason story, Izzy, if you not come here. So I think for that, at least Big Brother Unlocked was good this time. Yeah, I think, you know, I won't take credit for this take. I saw someone bleep this. But I totally agree that, like, what it feels like a lot of the content we're getting from this just used to be in the episodes. Like, I don't know why.

[00:05:45] I, like, to me, I've stopped, like, kind of, I mean, I'm watching the episodes while the season, you know, is airing. But, like, it's actually kind of hard to watch the episodes if you're watching the live feeds. Because the episodes just feel so empty. I went back because I was excited to get pumped for this season. I watched season 26. I watched season 27 again. And it's, like, actually watching the episodes while you're not watching the live feeds. It's, like, way more enjoyable, you know, and stuff like that.

[00:06:12] But so I just feel like a lot of this, like, I didn't learn, other than the powers, me personally didn't learn anything new from this. Because I watched all those segments in real time. So, like, it's funny to, like, have this show and then also still be promoting, like, yo, feeds are popping. You know, and, like, hey, you should watch the feeds this season for sure if you're not, you know. But so I think that's funny. But, yes, I was super thankful for the Jason segment. Yeah. Yeah. We can start there.

[00:06:41] Go ahead, Jenny. Oh, no. I was just going to say, I just still feel like I don't fully understand who the show is for. Totally. And so that's, like, the identity crisis of it that is what I'm struggling with. Exactly, like, what Izzy was saying about, you know, a lot of the stuff you would know already from following feeds. Except for, like, the preview of the powers and the family stuff. Like, but so is it for the feed watchers? Is it for the diehards that are seeing all of this stuff?

[00:07:09] Like, the creator content, we'll talk about it, obviously. Like, there's stuff that I'm like, okay, are we trying to get casuals to, like, veer into, like, more of the super fandom? I just don't fully understand who it's for. Are the casuals Sunday, Wednesday, Friday, or Thursday viewers also watching Friday? I don't know. So that's where I'm just, like, trying to figure out, like, who is the show for? And Friday every other week? Yeah, every other week.

[00:07:38] And, like, good luck trying to keep track of this, you know? You know what I am keeping track of? I'm just going to say it right up front because, like, I don't care. We're going non-linear here. Yeah. Have you noticed, has anyone else, other than my sick in the head person self, been keeping track of, like, every guest and new person that they've had, you know, has been, other than Rachel Riley, and tonight, a little bit from the Kelly Wentworth TikTok. And I guess you could say the Jason segment.

[00:08:08] But everyone else has been a white man. Everyone else. Ooh. Everyone else. So Howie, Dr. Will, Jesse, Jerry O'Connell's permanent. They had Ross Matthews as a host. They said they boosted that TikTok. That's a dude that's very funny, but it's like, you could have done better. I love Rob and Taryn, but Rob and Taryn are the only ones that should be there. You know what I mean? Didn't even mention Chappelle. Didn't even mention Chappelle. You know, I was waiting for it. Then they said the slop.

[00:08:36] I thought they were going to mention Chappelle next. I was like. It didn't get that good. The only woman they had, they killed. They let a dinosaur push her into a volcano. That's a really good point, Izzy. I think I can get that off my chest. You know, it's like, we've gone backwards. You know, it's upsetting. And like, with this. Well, it is the time travel, Izzy. So we are, we could be traveling to a time where we might not be able to vote. I don't know.

[00:09:07] We'll be able to vote for the time capsule. So. Oh my God. Sorry, women. Sorry. I think that's a really good point. Because you definitely have like moments where Rome is saying things like, yeah, I hope Lyric gets voted out so I could be her big strong man. Izzy, I was dying to ask you, what did you think about that portion of the episode? I literally, that segment started and I picked up my phone to write things down and then I put it down. I was like, I ain't writing nothing down. This is such trash.

[00:09:36] This doesn't deserve, you know, like Florence doesn't deserve any of my energy and any of my time. That motherfucker. Not Florence. It's crazy because, you know, like we're always, you know, we're at least for me. Right. I'm always thinking about like just the lack of queer representation on this show, on many shows. But Big Brother is really like a big culprit of this.

[00:09:59] And like, but then to see how the straights like talk about like straight relationships and like, like, does Lyric have any say in any of these life choices you've just made for her on this stage? The baby she's supposed to make when she goes home pre-jury? Like, what are you talking about? Like, it's like barefoot in the kitchen now. It's like, what is the message we're trying to do? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I was, I was a little bit sick to my stomach.

[00:10:28] You know, like, it's like, yeah, yeah. Milan just gets no love from me. I don't know. Not Milan. Listen, you gotta stop. I think you're making really good points, though. I mean, because historically, the women have carried Big Brother. OK, carried Big Brother. If you talk about the names on the Mount Rushmore, like, yeah, you got Dan and Will for like the strategy portion.

[00:10:51] But the characters that keep you coming back, the Janelle's, the Taylor's, the Dave Ons, the Tiffany's, you know, Rachel Riley, Vanessa Russo. These names, you could just list them out. So bring back the women, bring back Vanessa Russo, please. Yeah. Well, and it's also like. And Morgan together. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But it's like crazy that we, you know, we see men use like different types of emotional manipulation, you know, in the house.

[00:11:19] Lyric was even talking about it in the feeds to Chuck about being like, well, I felt kind of like held hostage by Rome, just like continually confessing my love. Like, what am I supposed to do? You know, and I think that's true. Yet he doesn't see that actually like Lyric has been done going to work. Like, you know, Lyric is doing her own thing. Like, I'm a lyricist. I think she gets it. You know, like, I think she, maybe she doesn't like can't turn the instincts of how to maneuver between these idiot men like into strategy. But she is doing it.

[00:11:48] Like, we are watching her try to find a home post-Rome. I'm really proud that she didn't vote for him to stay. Like, what a boss. You know, like, I'm proud of her for that. I think that means something. I think Taylor should have really framed her. You know, Taylor should go to work on that. But yeah.

[00:12:04] So, Jenny, that's I want to I want to talk about that a little bit, because when they asked Rome about Lyric's skills in the game, he didn't sound like he was too bullish on her abilities, even though we have been seeing another side of her watching the feeds. What did you think about that? Okay. Okay. Rome's answer pissed me off on many levels here.

[00:12:27] One, obviously, it's insane of him to hope that Loki say that he hopes she gets voted out soon so that he can, like, get her back. Like, why are you saying, like, I'll wait for you? And then you're just like, basically, like, I'm not wait for you. But listen, hurry up. Please get voted out. Like, root for your woman to win. Bring some money. That's how you can get her to be a housewife. Let her retire.

[00:12:57] She can't invest that prize. She can't be successful. You know, right? Like, that pissed me off. I understand, like, not wanting to give the obvious answer of like, oh, like, I think that Lyric is the best player. But what drove me crazy about his answer to this question is I don't know. And this is where I don't pay enough attention to.

[00:13:25] Does this film right after the eviction episode? Shortly after? He sounded like he didn't know what was going on in the house. You know, they do do that moment where they show him the tool shed and he seemed legitimately shocked. So I don't know, Jenny. I don't think they let him see anything. I think they want to kind of keep those surprises to get his genuine reaction. Oh, but just meaning like that there's not a lot of time after. But like, yeah. In that chair interview. Like, right. I'm trying to get the timeline here because.

[00:13:53] Scott says Thursday night pretty much right after. Yeah. OK, it felt like because I think Ross was wearing like the same thing as when he was on. You know, like, OK. He's wearing the B shirt. Yeah, that lime green. Yeah, I see it. Yes, exactly. So we have to give some more name dropping of Rob Cesternino and Taryn tonight because.

[00:14:18] Rome in his exit interview with Rob and Taryn today gave an entirely different name. Because he says Haley is playing the best game in his answer to to Jerry and Taylor. And Derek. Yeah, he's. He's. Yeah. Bottom left. He said he still thinks it's dog. Yeah. Yeah. But then today he said Kamu. No, I think he was. I think he was still on dog, wasn't he? Today, I swear to God.

[00:14:49] Am I. Did I listen to a different exit interview? Oh, I didn't listen to the exit interview. I didn't realize you were talking about that. Yeah. So he said he said Haley. And then this morning or whenever he spoke to Taryn and Rob today, he's. But he had the exact same like line of what. Why? Like he said exactly the same things about that. He said about Haley on Unlocked tonight about Kamu. And I'm like, what do you.

[00:15:18] Can you stick to anything? And you're still not picking. When Taryn, I think, posed the question said, OK, besides lyrics, obviously you would think you would be rooting for you think that your your lady is the best player and you don't even have to give him that precursor. He's not going to say he says get her out. You know what? Insane. I'm pretty sure it's one. It's where he he's asked the question. He answers it and he doesn't get a big reaction. People aren't like, oh, yeah, you're right.

[00:15:47] So he's like, OK, it's got to be somebody else. It can't have been because when I said it earlier, nobody really looked like I was on to anything. They look at me like I'm dumb. So he's trying again. The problem is off base. And if you're going to be way off base, at least say your girlfriend. Well, yeah. Well, also, like just a little like insider, like I'm sure when he filmed that, he didn't know who was H.O.H., right? Because he didn't know anything. Anyway. Right. You go back to your hotel. He has his phone by the time he does. Yeah. Like, yeah.

[00:16:16] I knew who was H.O.H. the night I got evicted. You're a woman behind the camera going, Kamu. Kamu. Right. Hey, Kamu, you look so smart. Exactly. It's giving that. It's giving like, oh, I learned something new. And so now I'm going to say that. You know what I mean? Anyway, listening to that, but then watching this, even though that happened first, I was like, what is he talking about? Oh, my God. Well, we just called her. He said that she's unbearable.

[00:16:46] She said he had small balls, you know, so maybe he's trying to fix it. Yeah. Talking about thog, right? He called her a bitch. He can go. Okay. He's out of here. He's trying to like correct that. He's like, oh, I would never say that. I didn't. I say I wanted her that she was the best player. Right. No. Who did that last season? Was it Zach going around being like, oh, I think Ashley's dumb. Did I say she was dumb? I think that maybe she's smarter than she's letting on.

[00:17:15] So I wouldn't be shocked if that's what's going on here. We got Jerry O'Connell kind of groped him a little bit. I think it was it was a little lusty. But aside from, you know, he did the hair thing to him. He did that to Quinn. Remember? Oh, he did. He did do that. That might be his thing. Yeah. The one non or I guess it is canonical episode where Jerry had to step in for Julie to host was the Quinn eviction episode.

[00:17:41] And I believe that he also had to touch Quinn's hair. But I understand like like I think Quinn, no offense, Rome, but I think like Quinn's hair is like a little bit more iconic than Rome's hair. Like I don't really understand. But maybe he just feels like, oh, I just do this all the time. I'm just touching people's hair. When are we just going to admit that this is like the homoerotic summer? We had Love Island, Big Brother. When are we just admitting it? You know, say the words, you know? Yeah.

[00:18:11] We we saw Jerry twerking. He was throwing at ass. You know, we saw twerk fever in the house. It's running rampant. It didn't it didn't hit Derek Levasseur. He said he's vaccinated. And for that, I appreciate him. I don't know. I feel like it was giving Kamu a little bit. Oh, like I could never. I don't want my image. My body doesn't move like that because I'm a man. Meanwhile, Jerry throwing at ass. You know, we saw Angela also doing something like that.

[00:18:40] Angela did not look so great. She's throwing that back. But, you know, the twerk fever was going throughout the house. We got some fun segments, you know, some things that if you're watching the feed, you might have seen some of these things before we also before we get away from Rome too much. We got a fan cam, Jenny, of the Rome and lyric relationship. Lime is done, y'all. We don't have to keep doing this. Lime is over. Why did they subject us to that? That was torture. That was so bad. I recoiled at the.

[00:19:10] I love Japanese culture so much. Like we all know where this is going. Hopefully we're able to put that to rest. I'm hoping that lyric goes far in the game. One, because, you know, I'm rooting for her. I've been seeing some chops this week, but also because it would be way funnier watching him outside the house, you know, really hoping that she doesn't fall into the arms of someone else or even win, because we know he's really hoping that she gets voted out prejury.

[00:19:39] So let's all go up for team lyric for just a while. Lyric is stand up. Lyric is stand up. Yeah, lyric is stand up. So we mentioned Jason a little bit earlier, Izzy. We go to Manila Luzon in California, you know, former Drag Race All-Star Manila Luzon. And she kind of gives us her first hand take on Jason, a.k.a. Selena.

[00:20:04] And we got to see what the drag queens thought about Jason playing the game and his big moment with Angela. Izzy, I know you really appreciate this moment, but what did you think about it? I just like I'll just like never stop saying it that it's like anyone that goes into that house and like is singular, you know, just it's like unimaginable how lonely it is. Right. And how like just like ways of existing, you know, like culturally.

[00:20:31] Right. Like queer culture, like Jason is surrounded by people that have, you know, are in the same community as him. And it's like even just to react that way, it's like, yeah, he's a drag queen. Like like have you none of you have seen Drag Race? You know what I mean? Like none of these people have any sense of what the vibe is. But it's like, yeah, you're a performer. You're always these things like you're vulnerable. But on Drag Race, when there are vulnerable moments, then they say, OK, bitch, you also stupid. And they move on. Like, you know, like they make a bit out of it.

[00:21:01] They like snap themselves back. It's this it's like the gay equivalent of the guy like slapping himself in the face and doing a push up. You know what I mean? It's like get your head back to the game. Like, you know, I you know, I wasn't crying for crying sake. I was, you know, it's part of this game. Like, I think it was like it's masking vulnerability when you don't feel safe being vulnerable. Like that's what the mistake is telling somebody. Everyone does that. You all want to talk about your beloved Dan Giesling. He does the same exact shit. Why are you mad at Jason?

[00:21:29] The only reason he's mad at Jason is because he spilled his guts. Dan kept all of his emotional manipulation to himself, which is like, that's how you use it. You're telling me Angela doesn't emotionally manipulate people? Like get off your fucking hat. People that are coming at Jason like that, refusing to understand context or nuance or anything like that. You know, like, yeah. So that I think is like, I'm so happy that they like highlighted that in a little way. And like the Queens reacted the same way I did, which was like, I laughed.

[00:21:57] I was like this fucking diva, you know, like when you see that, when you're like, oh, I was crying. I'm like, well, now I'm going to use her. And it's like, duh, because you're playing big brother. You know, the mistake was spilling it. I just will never get over that, you know? And I just, I, yeah. And I just will say this because it's been like festering. Is that like at the nomination ceremony when Angela was coming, sort of flipped it back at him. And like, you know, I think you don't really care about him because if you did, you would know not to throw something like that back in his face.

[00:22:26] That moment with you talking about your son and connecting with him, you know, that was real. You can have, two things can be true at once, you know? And if you want to be really powerful, like don't use that against him. Use that in a manipulating way, just like he is, you know, right back at you. It's like what made me feel really sad is that something was being attacked in Jason.

[00:22:47] That Lyric is using, that Rome is using, that Barrett is using, you know, this flirtation, this like, or, you know, the version of using your sexuality in a way that you can or whatever, just whatever emotional manipulation. But it's not a safe environment for anyone to stand up and defend Jason, right? Because he's alone. No one else is going to defend something when it's like, oof, I, like, I agree that maybe this is wrong or that he's being targeted for biases, but like. You don't want to get your hair chopped off. Exactly.

[00:23:16] And that to me upsets me, you know, because different people in those situations have backup, you know, and people have, you know, I don't know. So it just makes me really sad and I just, when it comes to people that are singular, I just wish the fans had a little bit more nuance like they are begging the show to have, you know, so you can think about why, you know, like you love Fields. She literally thinks about every interaction afterwards. What was the motivation? Why would they say that?

[00:23:44] You know, and I think like you have to view this also, like what are the experiences that are people are coming into this house holding and what is attacking those experiences? And maybe that's why people are reacting a certain way. And yeah, we're well aware that we're on camera, you know, like it's embarrassing to be so vulnerable, frankly, as someone that was super vulnerable on their season. I'm proud to have shown that. I'm also like so embarrassed, you know, all that. It's like, oh my God, look at me, you know? So it's like all of those different ones.

[00:24:14] And I just, Jason is playing a terrible game, but not for the reasons that people are mad at him. And that's what I want to say. Yeah, so I'm fighting for Jason and I'm happy that CBS tried in that way, tried to show, give a little bit more context and nuance. You know, I wish casting was different, but whatever. Yeah, the family visits, first of all, Izzy Wells said, the family visits are like, or the back home segments. That's classic Big Brother.

[00:24:41] People say they want old Big Brother, but Jenny, it doesn't look like they can have old Big Brother because that's something we would see Dr. Will doing. That's something that we would see Danielle Reyes doing. That's something we could see Dan Giesel doing. But when we give you old Big Brother, you want to punish this man for doing this. What's up?

[00:24:59] Yeah, it's a complicated thing, too, because it's like, you know, I think where it's really hard to say because you don't want to speak for too many different people. Everyone, everyone's like internalization of this can be very different. I think that, you know, a lot of people bringing up like the Matt Hoffman, like, you know, lying about his wife.

[00:25:26] And it's like, I think that what messed people, some people up is that like there is truth to some of the things that Jason was saying and doing. There was like reality to those feelings. But then the like the perceived weaponizing of them. And I think that that's what kind of like hurt people in some cases where they're just like, oh, this is kind of a real thing. And they didn't understand like how that could be real.

[00:25:53] And they don't they're choosing to use it that way. And I think that that's what where the separation to like things, things like a Dr. Will or like a Matt making up a completely fabricated story. I think that that's where like some people are kind of getting having complicated feelings about it. But I honestly believe like I think that Jason did say to Angela at one point, like, you know, like the tears that I shared were real.

[00:26:19] And I truly believe, again, I'm not going to get ahead of myself psychoanalyzing another person, especially another person that has greatly different life experiences than I have and has gone through things that I have not gone through. But I just know from like experiencing difficult things of my own in life. There's like this little moment of like you catch yourself being vulnerable and then you're like, ha ha ha. That was so funny. Exactly. Exactly.

[00:26:47] Like I just really felt like that was, you know, what was happening and what you were getting to Izzy with like the looking at the camera as much as it's like a it's a TV moment. It's a gotcha moment. I also sort of feel like there's an underlying kind of like, oh, I just had to get myself back together for a second, like caught myself slipping kind of thing where I think that that's also playing a part here.

[00:27:13] And I think on both sides, I think they've actually both do like and care about each other to a certain degree. And that's why there's so much misunderstanding because there's hurt. Yeah. Because there's feelings. But yes, I do think that this is old school big brother and it's messy and it's complicated and it's emotional. And I don't know, people are just gonna have a lot of different like feelings about it.

[00:27:38] And yeah, I'm not here to say how anyone should feel about it, I guess, is how I land on it. But that's what I do think it is. I think it is like a partially a self-protective thing. Totally. I totally agree. You know, I'll say one thing about the spilling of it, which I think like connects to what you're saying, Jenny. And it's like, I also like I just feel for Jason trying to figure out how to acclimate to different social groups in the house. You know, like we have not seen him be super successful.

[00:28:08] Right. And like I want to give a little bit of, I don't know, empathy for the spilling of it, because I think he was that also feels very drag workroom. It feels very like, oh, let me try to connect with these two that I know kind of like to gossip and have good banter. Let me tell them this like kiki thing that I did. And like, oh, we could just like hee hee ha ha. You got to have your messy friends. You got to. Yeah, exactly. You know, and so like I think that was just a bad read.

[00:28:35] But I also think it's just like the trick of Big Brother is like you can almost say anything if someone is going to buy it. But no one wants to buy what Jason is selling. You know what I mean? Like I feel like if someone else in the house, like I don't know, even if a drew spilled to someone that he was like, oh, I pretended like I was really upset about this thing and everything. I think the bros would be like, ha ha ha. Like, I think, you know, I think it's also contextual for the way that they are interpreting it from within the house.

[00:29:05] And I just Jason is alone. It's like, yeah, it's like crushing anyway. And that's why it's great to have these like family or like loved one segments to get context of the person outside. And I just love just hearing people's commentary about the show as it's airing.

[00:29:23] Like that is the one unique thing about Big Brother compared to like a lot of the other shows is that, you know, you can hear from these people's like loved ones and friends and family while it's going on. And their live perceptions of things as it's happening without being able to actually talk to them. And I just think that that's like a really interesting and unfiltered thing. And I did really appreciate that we got to see that for Jason here and that we had a whole segment because it really does give more context that you're not getting.

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[00:31:21] So, we get the shift over to talk about alliances and how to keep up with those alliance names. We get Derek Duncan on the tool shed a little bit. But Izzy, you were in a very powerful alliance in your season. Did you feel like it was hard to keep up with all the connections you had? Or were you just kind of like, me and Sari to the end, I don't know what the rest of y'all are doing? I, well, I, you know, I'm conflicted about that because, like, I have, like, a beef with, like,

[00:31:48] I have a beef with, like, the culture of BB of, like, every little fucking thing needing to be named. You gotta name it. Name everything. I almost think, like, that's what's gonna get the crossovers in trouble. Is, like, like, week one, you don't know anything, you know? Like, and you just, like, maybe there are reasons, right? I think Drew and Barrett were, like, a little fangirly, and so I get it, right? And so they were, like, okay, I'm gonna get comfortable with them. And, of course, the vets are, like, oh, great. Some people that want to work with us, great.

[00:32:17] And then all of a sudden, they, like, tried to make this thing that's so solid. And it's, like, you don't even know each other, right? And so, like, I just, not that I'm supporting more Survivor strat, but I love that Survivor just sort of admits that, like, things will be fluid and there are reasons why you would want to be, like, voting with someone or a group of people and then not. And, like, you know, it's about individual relationships if you've wronged something, but it's not like you took out the crossovers alliance.

[00:32:46] It's like, who fucking cares? You know Angela wants Drew. Of course, Drew's gonna want Angela. You know what I mean? Like, let's just friggin' be... So I think names get in the way. And frankly, I didn't want to name anything. I was just in these rooms. And then people are naming things. And then it's like, well, I think that's gonna get us in trouble, but you can't say no, right? So I think there's a kind of, like, you can weaponize the forming of something, you know? And I worry that... I mean, I think Angela was trying to do that. I think Angela's, like, totally trying to weaponize

[00:33:16] the fact that she's named a bunch of things, you know? Like, oh. And so, yeah. So that's, like, my beef with it is, like, it is hard when you feel like, well, we could have just agreed that we all have the mutual interest of voting out Tuscany. And then, like, you can... And then you can, like, go about your way afterwards or whatever, you know? But this other lacks, like, self-awareness. That's, like, part of it. So it's like, that's never gonna happen. But we used to call your alliance the fields, you know,

[00:33:46] with you and Jared and Siri. Yeah, but y'all didn't name it that. Were you in any unnamed alliances in your season? In any unnamed alliances? No, named alliances. Because I can't remember. What were your named alliances? Because we just called y'all the fields. Well, I mean, like, me, Siri, Jared, and Corey were crossroads. And then there was Legend 25 to appease that. Come on, Legend 25. And then, yeah, I don't know. I went, I was, like, trying to look something up. And I saw my big brother wiki page. And there were, like, 19 named alliances.

[00:34:16] I was like, what? Like, what? You and Huxley had a final two. You know? Did they have you and Cameron piggy pal? I was like... Everything's a fucking alliance. The professors. The five-year bitches, yeah. I forgot about them. But it's like, you know, for me, the strategy, like, I like the survivor strategy that's kind of happening where it's, like, an alliance, like, Russian dolls of alliance, right? An alliance with hidden within a larger, larger, larger, larger thing. I think on paper, the tool shed... I do hate saying that out loud.

[00:34:45] But the tool shed has the possibility of being really good for the vets. Or, like, any subset, you know, any strong subset of that tool shed. You know? But then when you start branching out, it's like, you need an enemy in Big Brother because who else are you going to nominate? Like, that's also where people get in trouble, I think, you know? But... Mm-hmm. You can't be aligned with everybody and win power. Jenny, you hate the tool shed? I don't hate the tool shed, but I totally agree with Izzy about, like, too many names. Like, we've gone...

[00:35:12] The naming has gone the way of, like, the shout-outs in the diary room. It was, like, it was Q at first, and I was just like, we don't need to do it all the time for everyone. And it's like, you don't need to name everything. And the survivor comparison is correct. Like, I don't think that every single alliance in Survivor is, like, having this conversation being like, okay, and what's the name? They're not. It's like, I get it, but it loses its...

[00:35:40] It's, like, allure to me when every alliance, fake alliance, like, sub-alliance has its own name. It's just like, I don't... I kind of just feel nothing now. Like, I'm not excited about... I'm not... I'm nothing it. I'm sorry, Jenny. I was like... And we'll know, because, like, they're not... Because that's how Big Brother is. They're not exactly playing like that. You know what I mean? Like, you know, for so many reasons, the cookout was so dominant.

[00:36:08] But what was so brilliant about it was, like, it didn't actually function like an alliance. You know, like, it functioned... Like, the reality of it was they were functioning really separately. You know? And I think that's, like, the case. Like, I don't think, like, a super dominant alliance, like, you know, a large numbered alliance at this point in Big Brother would be that successful. You know what I mean? Like, Big Brother people have learned to at least use the word strategy. You know what I mean?

[00:36:34] You know, like, the culture of the game says, like, they're like, strategy. You know? And, like, they don't know what it's true. That's a perfect example of where it, like, makes sense. And it's, like, a great name. It's purposeful.

[00:37:03] You hate the tool shed. We do not need to name every... You hate the tool shed. My handyman, after there's already been french fries in that pod bed. But here's the thing is, like, I don't hate the connection of the tool shed and the handyman. And I think it's, like, crazy for Derek, of all people, to be, like, hating on that. Like, oh, yeah, because the alliance names from your season were just, like, chef's kiss. But it could be worse.

[00:37:32] I don't know. I do miss the days where we have multiple... Yeah, but, yeah, I miss the days where we would have, like, the alliance that kind of defines the season, right? Like, now it feels like everybody has an alliance. Every two people have an alliance. But remember the days when it would be, like, the sovereign six versus the friendship. You know, like, you could just kind of, like, pit those alliances together in your head. Right, you could pick a side. And this just feels like everybody's on everybody's team. And so it's definitely hard to track.

[00:38:00] I don't really hate the name, the tool shed. I don't hate it. I like Drew being, like, we're all tools. Because I don't walked out. Because I'm not. You know, like, I don't know. Chuck was like, I'm a tool. I was like, yeah, Chuck, you might be. But I'm always called the tool. That's normal. This is what I, too, have been thinking about this since I was seven. So, yeah, I personally wouldn't have gone with that. But, yeah, we get a couple other alliances on here. Angela trying to make the alliances with Dee and Lala and Taylor.

[00:38:29] You know, good to see Lala and Angela finally kind of getting on the same page. But I think you're right, Izzy. A lot of these alliances, once you know the names of them, you can really go out and out them. You know, you can create a fake alliance and then just go, oh, yeah, I know they're aligned because I was there. So, you know, let's target them. Especially because, like, every season of Big Brother, you know, like, all of these, right? Like, Survivor really says, like, you are building a society and figuring out what to do. But, like, that's the same with Big Brother.

[00:38:56] And the fact that Devens has set the precedent that someone can out their people in a safe setting, they think, and then automatically be like, damn, you told me everything. Now I've got to nominate you. Like, I think that, like, actually opens the door for that being okay on the HOH. Like, it's oftentimes on a season of Big Brother, the first person to do a ballsy thing that potentially – I mean, this was a more complicated situation, but I think if someone was going to get blood on their hands from doing that, it would have been Devens.

[00:39:25] He's clean from that because Angela is a mess. And so now I think actually, like, anyone – Drew can use that. You know, like, I think Drew and Barrett together potentially could use that against toolshed people or whatever. You know, anyone they want, really. I don't know. Yeah. Right. I did not see the vote for BB Badass and BB Dumbass. Am I the only one who missed that? Jenny, did you – did you vote? Again, who is this show for? I don't know.

[00:39:53] I mean, I'm not on Facebook these days. So I don't know if they've got Facebook groups for this shit. I don't know where – I don't even believe that this is a thing. Where are they doing this? On the website? They must have done it in person. What? They pulled, like, 15 people in the studio at the little Beesker tables? Like, what are we doing? If you think Angela's a badass, okay. One, two, three, four, five. Oh, I can't see back there. Yeah. We got a quorum. You hand up until we get everybody.

[00:40:24] Yeah, I didn't know this. I knew we were voting for the power, but that was just random. It was like – and then also, Big Brother just coming out and being like, this person is a dumbass. I just really thought, like, how did we get here? I hated it. And then they're like, oh, oh, like, we just call this person a dumbass, but, like, okay, time to humanize them. Like, with this package. They're a dumbass, but they're our dumbass. They're our dumbass.

[00:40:50] Like, it was a very confusing thing. Was this a thing last season? I literally watched this last season. Like, I – but I just – I block out this from my memory. That says it was an IG poll. Oh, an Instagram poll. Okay. Yeah. And I think they did say that in episode two. Yeah. So now – yeah. So now we got – make sure you're following the Big Brother. You got to follow the Big Brother social media. They've been getting – All your devices are connected. You got to be on every device when you're watching Big Brother. Yeah. I'm voting this time.

[00:41:20] I definitely got to vote this time. I wonder if Rome still going to be on the ballot. Yeah. I got a couple people in mind from my BB dumbass this week. I don't know. I feel kind of bad calling them dumbasses. You know? Like, hey, man. That's kind of rough. But, you know, it could be worse, I guess. It definitely could be worse. So we brought in Ross as we talked about in the last episode of Big Brother. We knew Ross was coming back. I thought Ross was going to give us some cutting words about Jason. From what I understand that, B-Finn. Yeah.

[00:41:49] This was so nice from Ross, Izzy. Did you know they were such good friends? Yeah. I mean, like, all I know is, like, I just, Selena's roast of Ross at some, like, live show. It was just, like, playing in my head over and over and over again. And, yeah, like, I mean, I watched Drag Race. You know, like, I remember Ross being particularly hard on Selena. So I thought, yeah, I for sure thought this was a setup. I was pretty happy that Ross definitely added to the nuance and the understanding and the empathy for Jason.

[00:42:19] So, like, yeah, get more queer people in there. Yeah. Especially Ross Matthews, because, Jenny, Ross was robbed. Let me be very clear. Ross should have won that season of Celebrity Big Brother. And this being one of the first times we've seen Ross back in the Big Brother atmosphere, it just feels wrong. We should have been had Ross back. He should have hosted some competitions or at least come back in the house. I think Ross could play a real game of Big Brother. I truly think that he could, and I think that he probably would love to. And win.

[00:42:50] Well, and this is the funny thing, is, like, I feel like there's this memory that, like, people are like, oh, yeah, Ross won that season. And, like, people can think that, like, you know, someone was robbed and, like, you know, they didn't win their season or whatever. But they remember that they didn't win the season. I think that people are so, like, on the same page that, like, Ross should have won that season.

[00:43:17] That, like, they've convinced themselves it's happened and, like, misremembered. They're like, oh, wait, no, he actually didn't win the season. So I do think it's like a Mandela effect of the Celebrity BB season, season one. So it was really good to see him, like, come on and have this enthusiasm. My only complaint is that I, and this is, okay. I love Jerry O'Connell. Okay.

[00:43:43] He's my, and I think that he is perfect for this because it's chaotic and it's nonsense. My only, only problem is that I felt like with four of them tonight, we didn't get enough. Like, I almost wanted to see more Ross, you know? I felt like him as, like, a fourth panelist because there's now four of them, it felt like I didn't get enough.

[00:44:07] And I, so I do agree with the third co-host, you know, having three all the time is great. But then I felt like you bring someone out that, like, you know, is very, very relevant to the fandom, you know, is a big name in general.

[00:44:51] And then I'm like, oh. Yeah, did kind of like, we weren't from, like, bringing Jerry out last week or two weeks ago. You're now being, like, a third host or something. This is my fucking show, guys. Imagine that happening, being a third panelist and then being the host of a show. I can't remember who, how we got to BB Unlocked Unlocked. But, you know, I agree. I agree. Anytime we get more Taylor Hill on screen, you know, we're not going to ever go against that. I think Ross could have definitely got some more content. Yeah, Ross could have got some more content.

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[00:47:41] Let's go. Like... It didn't stop. The fact that it happened more than once was so bizarre. Really, really fun. I was waiting. We were so close to Derek Levasseur mentioning Mike Bloom. I was like, he's going to start rattling through the names. And... He said, Rob. The tweets are being drafted. Yeah, let's do it.

[00:48:09] I said, okay, keep going. We've got to get to Chappelle. You bitch, you better say Mike Bloom. They better not say me on live. I will act a damn fool. Better not. Yeah, we got Rob's viral video of him imitating Yash. It's so good. It is really good. I hate to give another shout-out to Brandon Donlan, but amazing editing for Brandon Donlan. It's a big week for him. More shout-outs to Brandon Donlan.

[00:48:39] Is he? Brandon Donlan married you? He was the witness. So cool. Shout-out to Brandon Donlan. Shout-out to Brandon Donlan. He's done it all. Yeah. He literally is like... He's a Rome of all trades. Mm-hmm. Taryn got the shout-out as well. RJP got some shout-outs. I liked Kelly Wentworth's video, Izzy, because she was doing the, oh, let's make fun of how we put the key and how you find it.

[00:49:06] Izzy, where did you find your key in The Big Brother when you were getting chosen for The Big Brother house? And what was that experience like filming that? Oh, my God. They hated me. They hated me. The whole time, I was like, we're going to film that key segment yet? You know, and they're like, it's supposed to be a surprise. You know? You're like, where's my key? Give me that key, bitch. They don't want to tell you. You know what I mean? But anyway, it was hidden in my suitcase. I was literally going to say that. I was like, it's in the case. I was like, you know? Yeah.

[00:49:34] I feel like I actually remember that now that you say it. Yeah. I feel like as a fan, that's something that you just, that's the one of the moments that you kind of live for, right? It's like, yeah, walking in the house, not first, but also the moment you open your key or open your whatever box or something like that and pull out the key. I think we've seen some really weird places. So Kelly was onto something with that, right? Jenny. Like, like, is he, okay, that, at least that makes sense.

[00:50:03] They're playing, they're playing into like, this is, this is your story. This is what you do. Like, that's why the lawnmower of it all is like so funny because it's like, I, I truly have that thought of like, what the hell would they get me to do? I love when it's like, open my underwear drawer. Like, what the hell? Like, I don't know. What's my thing? Just a coaster. You know, you're like at a bar. Oh, I didn't see that there underneath this clear glass. Inside my wine bottle. At a bar, I'm catching so many strains.

[00:50:33] Yeah, yeah. You definitely find it in my key. Me and Jenny's key are at the bar. Yeah. In shot glass. He's booze deliveries. I tried to steal my key. I like, didn't know. And I was like, baby, put this in your bag. Like, they're not asking. For it back. I was like, put it in your bag. Literally. Did they ask for it back? You didn't even get to keep the key? Well, yeah. Well, then it is your key that like, they show. Oh, your key. They mail it to you. But I was like, the one that I found, I was like, they weren't asking for it back. And I was just like holding it. And I was like, baby, put it in that bag. Like, keep the key, you know?

[00:51:03] Yeah. I have no issue stealing from my brother. So do that. If you could get away with it, take whatever you can. I have a washcloth from the house. I just found it recently. Absolutely. There you go. We need more souvenirs. There's more gifts. Do they have quality linens there? I don't know. No. No, no. No. Everything. Oh. Since we're talking about the house conditions, Izzy, how nasty does it get? The shop. Yo. I was like, Paige was shouting at the TV.

[00:51:32] Show the drain, you cowards. Paige, please. Yo. Oh, I'm supposed to. I'm trying to stop saying, yo. I noticed that I'm saying it recently. Yo. Paige is like, it's a vocal stim. And I was like, I don't like it. Anyway. So, I'm sorry, it's not bad. But no, the shower is disgusting. Like, slimy, greasy. The kids don't clean up. You know what I mean? Like, everyone that lives with their parents is not touching or cleaning or doing anything in that house. Just like, hands down. Just, I know it.

[00:52:02] You know, like, yeah, I feel bad. It's nasty in there. It's gross. It's crazy that people live with other people. I was super self-conscious. Like, I wanted to keep all my stuff. Like, don't worry. Like, this is my stuff. Not even in the bathroom. Like, in the drawers. Like, don't worry. I'm only in the drawers. Like, everyone's stuff is everywhere. I don't know. Yeah, I don't relate to that. Maybe it's like the only child in me where I'm like, you can keep your stuff there. I'll keep my stuff there. Yeah, take a little space. Don't ever have to interact with each other's stuff, you know? Right. When I lived in a dorm in college, I was like that as well.

[00:52:32] Like, I had dishes in my room. Like, I didn't take them into the kitchen. You wouldn't have to worry about whose dishes are these. I was just not. That's not me. You know, I'm just not doing that. But these people, Jenny, cutting your toenails in the sink. The mention of. I would have jumped the wall. Parmesan cheese. Was I literally. Oh, and he's not cleaning? It's like. Oh, of course not. He's going to clean it, right?

[00:52:58] Like, that's the thing is like, of course, that's what's happening here is like you are doing that and then also being like. Surprise for whoever comes next. Like, hope you enjoy. It's so gross. I also think that it's like really interesting, though, because like when. So obviously you're playing a game and then you're going to end up like disliking some of

[00:53:25] these people at certain points, possibly very intensely. And then just like imagine like just getting into the shower and you can just tell that it's like there. They've left some disgusting mess. You're going on the block. And you're just like. You're going on the block. You're going on the block. It's eating crackers times a million. You know what I mean? Like you get like, oh, he drank a glass of milk next to me and that just left the milk glass.

[00:53:52] And I can just tell that that milk at the bottom of the glass is going to get gross. And I'm going to be the person that has to clean it later. And then you're just like, I am. I'm. Can I get an Etsy witch on the phone? Like. Asmodeus rides. I just can only imagine like the vitriol like rising in you having to cohabitate with people being gross.

[00:54:16] But also like the gross people, like what's crazy is like you're the bad guy if you say something. You know, like that. Yeah, you have to hold it in. That's why it's like I'm scared of the dummies. I'm scared of the of the incompetence. Like I'm scared of the people that like they really like believe like, well, unless you directly say something to me, I'm going to leave my plate there every time.

[00:54:39] Or unless you say something and then you start a conflict with me, I'm going to leave my foot shavings in the sink. You know what I mean? Like they're not thinking like that, but it's like y'all are going to fix it. So why should I change? Right. And then when someone says something, they're the bad guy. When it's like a disgusting room, you know, like, yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. And yeah, well, I was going to talk about feeds, but that's not. It was from today. Like we're so that was so far behind.

[00:55:09] But we also we talked about the rent room. Izzy, you were in the diary room, I'm assuming, ranting about your house, your fellow house guests. Tell us about some of the rants that you might have had while you were in there. You don't have to name names unless you want to. Well, I think you should. This is funny. Well, I think this is funny. Like I started like realizing like I didn't I didn't for a while. I didn't take advantage of being like I could ask to go to the D.R., you know, for different reasons. Like you could ask to go in. You could buzz in whatever.

[00:55:37] And during the period of time when I was really trying not to get boiled up over like literally everything and anything red did, I would like hold my I would be like, I need to be called to the D.R. And I would be like, you want to hear some shit? You'll call me to the D.R. right now. Izzy, can you please cover the D.R.? Like this motherfucker. And I would just like let it all out. And then I'd be like, OK, do you want to ask me any questions? They'd say no. And I'd say, I'm going to go back. Like, yeah, I needed it.

[00:56:06] No, it's that deal. And you and Red still stay in touch. Who? Red. Red corner. Red corner. Yeah, I could definitely use a rant room. I love a good rant. And yeah, and sometimes things happen. And like you said, you can't say it in front of people. You don't want to be the bad guy. But I would be Brittany Haynes in the diary room. I would be letting people have it.

[00:56:34] Honestly, release, release full house guests. D.R. said, release my tapes. Yeah, get the tapes. I need it. I need it. We need that. I said, yo, again. Do you see that? You did. You did. It's going to kill me. It's going to kill me. OK. Yeah. Yeah. I want to see the tapes. Like, I want to remember all the good times, the bad times. The blood. That's my only complaint about the rant room is that I wanted. I wanted to hear more. Like, no one named names.

[00:57:02] I know that some of these people were like, they knew who they were complaining about. Someone was clipping their. I'm like. We know that, Josh. Well, we. Yeah. But I wanted every single person to be like, this person's a slob. Like, this person snores. Like, I want. Like, give us the receipts. I also think I would say that the rant, what they call it, rant room. I think rant room was my favorite segment because we finally got to see almost everyone. Like, I'm so. Yeah.

[00:57:32] That whole episode. Like, the players I could think of. I mean, I guess I have to count lyric, but it's not like we really even saw her. We heard from Rome, Angela, Devin, Jason. That was. That was basically it. You know what I mean? Like, no one else was in this episode. And I like, I resent that. You know what I mean? And so, like, rant room was my favorite segment because we got to see everybody. So, if anyone's out there watching this that has something to do with Unlocked, you know,

[00:57:57] like, maybe it's a time to see more clips from different house guests that we're not getting in the edit. That's just makes sense. Okay. Maybe it's a way to use the. See more from other people. I agree. It's a good way to use the episode because obviously we got, you know, back, like, scenes. We've got stuff from, like, alliances or not really serious alliances that haven't been featured on the show regular yet.

[00:58:24] But it's like, if I understand if there's not, like, main characters to the plot of the week and they're not getting a lot of confessionals. But, like, I would love to see Unlocked use that time to give us character building moments for people that might not be a big part of the storyline of that week. Rather than intern Andy, what even are those segments? Who are those people in line? What? Also, Slap is just oatmeal. It's not that big a deal. It wasn't that bad?

[00:58:52] I mean, like, if you don't do anything to it, it's just like, yeah, put some oatmeal. It's just like, yeah, like. Put some condiments in it. Put some sugar, brown sugar. They ain't never been broke before. They ain't never been broke before. I'd make Slap, okay? Slap. Yeah, I honestly, I don't think it could be that bad. Anyway, I just think, like, they're, you know, like, I mean, it's just me. Like, I would love if Unlocked was, like, SportsCenter. Like, I want it to feel like we are getting hard-hitting, nuanced.

[00:59:21] Like, let's analyze this game. Let's talk about moves. Let's, like, you know, do scenarios. Where's my boy at? You know? Like, I think, I don't know. I think, I mean, I just, maybe it's just because I come from it from less of the, like, TV side and more just, like, wanting to see the game. You know, like, the gamer side. Like, I just would love to see more of that. I think that would also help the casual audience engage with that type of viewing. If they don't want to air strategy on Unlocked, that's perfect for us because we're going to

[00:59:49] get people coming here for all the strategy needs, especially with all our shout-outs we got in this episode. Right. We got some good shout-outs, including, you know, Rob C. might be coming in the house. Nope. Not that Rob. Not Boston Rob. Rob Cessinino. Still no. Angela wants to fuck Jeff Probst. That's a thing that we found out as well. Yeah. She said, I want to jump his bones. She wants to take him out. And so. It was a horny episode.

[01:00:18] It really was. It really was. That lady was aroused. So let's get to, I guess, one of the things that we would not have seen if we didn't watch Unlocked. We got the advantages and powers that we have been voting for. And I saw a lot of conversation about it. So thanks to the work of Mike Bloom, we do have a list of those advantages. And we are going to talk about them right now. So we have the replay. That means can play in back-to-back HOHs.

[01:00:48] All these advantages came from past seasons of Big Brother, I'm assuming, right? This is, do y'all remember who had the replay? I thought. Was that Frankie's? Oh yeah. Frankie had at least a rewind or something like that. So maybe. Wasn't that because of the button? Honestly. It was the button. Yeah. We had, I think they redid the whole week with Frankie. So I'll have to look for the chat. Wait, replay was a button? No, I'm saying the rewind was the button, you know. Yeah, the rewind. I don't think so. I think they did the whole week though.

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[01:02:15] We love a conspiracy here, okay? Yes, we do. The never not passed seems fine. It seems fine. But it's not even in the same world. It's not in the same realm as the diamond power of Vito. Jenny. The fact that... Oh, yeah. Jenny, please. No, no, no, no. The fact that he could use it for six weeks. So past when these advantages even come out, right? Because now it would be five weeks, right? Like this week and four more weeks, right?

[01:02:45] But he could use it for six weeks. So past this, you know? That's crazy. I also like... I wish that... Okay. I love Big Brother because of how long it is. And so I think like... It's like I want things where the players have to really like think about their choices. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like that I think if you're going to get this advantage, if you use it, there has to be a disadvantage in some way. Like some repercussions. You know what I mean?

[01:03:14] Like I think my hot take is that all of these should come... Or at least the diamond power of Vito. I haven't really given much thought to the rest right now. But the diamond power of Vito, you can use it, but you can't use it on yourself. Hmm. Okay. You can use it, but you can't use it on yourself. Because I think too many times on Big Brother, people just let these things expire actually because like they're not in trouble. Don't make it. Like, well, I could benefit from helping someone else out. You know what I mean?

[01:03:40] There's way more advantages played for other people on Survivor than their Big Brother. Pair these with a punishment. We could have more punishment because... Exactly. Yeah. You should be punished if you have the diamond power of Vito. You should have to be punished because this... Ginny, this is crazy OP. Seven's just made jury. You know what I mean? Seven's just made jury. It's wild. Yeah. Like the fact that, you know, a diamond power of Vito that can be, you know, held onto for super, super long is one of these options.

[01:04:10] And then the never not pass, which is like fourth or fifth choice in like the one of those Vitos where it's like, you know... The white elephant kind of super Yankee swap. Yes, exactly. You're like, I could have like a flat screen TV or a trip to Jamaica. Or a never not pass. Literally anything. Then there's a never not pass. If someone win... If someone week six wins a power, it's going to be the never not pass.

[01:04:39] Like it's not... You know what I mean? They're going to want... Because they want the players that people want to vote for first to get the best powers. Like part of me feels like I can just like guess what order these will be doled out, you know? Yeah. We have the BB bribe receive money to bribe another player. And then we have the coin of destiny, which to me is the floppiest of the flop because I saw Claire. Claire pulled it off in her season, season 23 with the cookout. She didn't even use... End up using the power, but she did win.

[01:05:09] She did flip the coin. It landed. Good for her. I just know this time around, they're going to flip that coin and it ain't going to do nothing. Jenny, this is a... This power here is not going to help whoever gets it. Is it a Mr. Beast coin though? See, are they going to double the money? Other season. Get out of here. We don't care. Yeah. Drew is going to get the Mr. Beast coin. It does feel like a missed opportunity that Rick Devins is not the person who's flipping

[01:05:38] this coin. Oh, no. Exactly. I'm like, okay. He's already an apology for making him do that on Survivor. I'm pretty good. Those were the advantages. Let's talk about the punishments. Sam, hook us up with the punishments, please. Because there are some things on here that I think would be very fun. And I can kind of already determine who I think should get these things.

[01:06:02] Because when I saw that red unitard pop up, I said, oh, Kamu, you said you wouldn't. But, well, okay, cool. I would love to see these go to the people who want them the least. I want Kamu to get the Adam and Eve, but with another guy and he has to be Eve. That's what I want. We all want that.

[01:06:30] I never thought about what that would be. Because when they did it the first time, I think it was Victoria. It was Victoria and Beast Mode. And Beast Mode Cowboy, right? They look amazing. And it was fun to watch them. But, yeah, if it's Kamu and Drew, yeah, the feeds are going to be crazy that week. But I don't know if he would actually do the punishment, Izzy. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, but also, like, did they say, like, I mean, I think he's going to,

[01:06:58] whoever is going to get that punishment is going to get to pick who they do it with. Like, I do. Right? Don't you think, like. Is that how it went? Well, I don't know. What if Jason picks Kamu? Well, see, that would be very me. Like, okay, that was what I would do, you know? Like, yeah, learn how to cope, motherfucker, you know? The Lord of Latrine is the first one on this list. Is that Derek X?

[01:07:27] Derek X. Ham is. Okay. Ham is almost Fessy. Fessy, yeah. The camp guy. Yeah. Who was the camp guy setting up tents and roasting wieners? Do we remember who that was? Who was that? Oh, I do. Oh, my God. It's like. I do remember that. Like, a lot of these are pretty modern. Like. I think the chat's saying Alex, I think, is what the chat's saying. Oh, yes. It was Alex. It absolutely was Alex. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah.

[01:07:55] And then, of course, the iconic. The probably the most iconic punishment in Big Brother history. That red unitard. So many people have done it justice. I just. Whoever gets this. I just want them to embrace it because this is a part. They are being a part of Big Brother history when you get this disadvantage, this punishment. Like, D is going to get it and just look so hot. So hot. And it's just. And it. Like. Yes. Yeah. I want Barrett to get it. It looks like one of those car wash. Like.

[01:08:25] The wacky way to inflatable arm flailing tube, man. I told you. Yeah. I was going to say, like, like, Barrett's very tall. So, like. Do they. Are you going to be. Yeah, it's going to be. That's a tank top. It'll be like one of those wrestling. Like, speaking of the wrestling. Right. It'll be like one of those, like, wrestling unitards where it's like. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that, like. You know. Not that D will get it. But if D did get it. It'd just be like. No notes. No notes. Incredible. Yeah. No notes.

[01:08:55] Just slaying again. Good Lord. So. But I do want to see Barrett. That sounds great. Yeah. I think that's the most funny one. Honestly. That's what I want. Yeah. Or he's going to be bursting out of the unitard. I want nipples out. So we end the episode with a clip from the HOH competition. We get the wrestling ring. Is it Wrestlegasm? Is that what they were saying? Horny episode. Horny episode.

[01:09:24] We can have straights talking about sex 100% of the time. Wrestlegasm isn't even a thing. As many wrestlers. They made that up just to say gasm. Yeah. I think this is what I'm saying. These are choices that have been made. And I don't know who's making them. Oh, I do. Julie, girl. What? Julie. Is this what they're doing on God 101 now? Wrestlegasms? Okay. I might need to turn that up. Jenny.

[01:09:55] I know you were excited to see the return of one of your faves and mine. Mr. Spectacular is back. I'm leaving. I don't. Again. This is so confusing. What the show is doing with like the hosts and like the cameos of like, sometimes it's just an actor. Sometimes it's someone from BB past. Sometimes it's a mix of them because it's like they had.

[01:10:23] So they had the announcer and then the like. The ref. And then the two girls. Like the two hype girls. And then. And then they like the fighter against Jesse or two fighters. Like I was so confused about what was going on. Is Jesse fighting two people? It seems that way. But so this is the comp. Okay. Absolutely. They're going to be watching them do some wrestling things and then they're going to ask, get asked questions about it. Right. Well, that was my question.

[01:10:49] I was like, okay, we know there's wrestling going on, but I was like, but what are they going to be doing? I don't think they're wrestling. I think. I mean, I think it's Hall Brawl. Yeah. Bring Hall Brawl. Yeah. That's actually what Big Brother needs in 2026. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably questions about like, you know, I'm sure that there was probably like names of the moves where it's like, oh, he just performed the like.

[01:11:19] Well, Kamu won. I don't know. And if it's a quiz, it's definitely like they're asking real wrestling questions. All right. Just all MMA. Everyone watching this has watched the feed. At least I hope so. 100%. Sorry. There are spoilers. Oh, no. I'm talking about Kevin's getting the power. I've been talking about it. You have to come here expecting mess. We're too far gone. We're too far gone. You have to see this panel and be like. It's too far gone. Yeah.

[01:11:48] You can't care about spoilers on a show that is live. I'm sorry. You just got to shut. You guys stop. It's not about the process, not about the result. Okay. Yeah. Somewhere Taryn is shaking his head. But that about covers most of the things in this. Episode. Izzy, is there anything else you wanted to highlight from BB Unlocked and from your time in the Big Brother House that you think the people would want to hear about? Oh, I don't know. I mean, everything. No, I don't know. Yeah, I do. I want to release the tapes. Release the tapes. Full DR cut.

[01:12:19] No, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, like everything. I'm super hyped for this season. I think like if you're not watching the feeds, I'm sorry for the spoilers and also get on those feeds because like I'm just like I'm so excited that there's so much action. And like I don't care if people are bad at it or doing bad things. I want people to engage with the game. Like that's all I care about. And so like I think that's like really happening this season, you know, so I'm stoked about that.

[01:12:47] This is the first season since I played that I like kind of really feel like a fan, you know, like it's so personal. Like I was like couldn't finish the episode after the Jason Angela fight. You know, I was just like so like feel in my feels. So it's like I don't think it'll stop being personal or like emotional. But like, wow, I am just like fangirling all over this season, like loving it. So that feels really good. And yeah. Yeah. All right. Jenny. Jenny, this is the first time we've heard from you this season. Are you are you pumped for the rest of the season?

[01:13:18] Of course I am. Like what what choice do I have? Like I'm I love to be I love to be optimistic and I love mess and I love absurdity. And I think that even when Big Brother is bad, there's going to be absurdity along the way. And so there's always going to be something for me. And so that's what I appreciate.

[01:13:44] Like and that there's so many opportunities to enjoy and discuss the madness, especially with all of like the coverage. Going on on RHAP, like now that we've got unlocked and we're covering that. And obviously like the slops existence. Summer of Stein is back. So I I think that like even on the weeks where it might be like a little OK, we kind of we kind of know what's happening here.

[01:14:13] I think that there's like also just enough wild cards going on in the season that never say never. And I am also just going to be seated for the absurdity along the way. And so I'm very glad that this got to be like my my entry into the BB28 coverage of the season, getting to do this with y'all, because it's just the perfect way to start for me personally. Yeah, absolutely. On the power shifting.

[01:14:42] OK, we need the power in different hands. Yeah, let's get this. Let's make this messier. Let's make this messier. Izzy, where can people find you and keep up with what you have going on? For all things Rally TV, you can follow me on BlueSki at FluteDyke. OK, and if you want to check out some of my art, some of my music, you can follow me on Instagram at BBizzy underscore makes underscore art. Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. Izzy's a great follow.

[01:15:11] So follow my sibling here and also follow Jenny. Jenny, what do you have going on? Fuck all. I'm working a lot. My like my offline life is very, very crazy right now. And hopefully I'll get to enjoy like summer at some point. And then, you know, just following Big Brother and yeah, follow me on social media at Jenny Autumn. And hopefully I'll get to chat more about the season along the way.

[01:15:41] All right. And a big shout out to the chat. Shout out to Brandon Donlan once again and to Rob and Taryn, the hidden gems here in this episode of BB Unlocked. To keep up with me, follow me on all social media platforms at Recap Kickback. Check out my podcast, YouTube dot com slash at Recap Kickback. Go to Recap Kickback dot com slash subscribe to subscribe to the podcast. And then make sure that you tune in for me talking to David Bloomberg about why Rome lost because he did.

[01:16:07] And then also the slop where Rob and I behind the paywall are going to say some heinous things that only people who are paying to see to see it can see. And so no snitches. Yeah. No. Yeah. You definitely need to come to the slop, please. We'll make room. We'll make room. No snitches on the slop, though. But that's about it. We will be back in two weeks for another Big Brother Unlocked. Until then, take care, everybody. Peace.

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