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[00:02:45] Donna, hello
[00:02:49] Hello, how are you?
[00:02:52] I'm doing well, how are you?
[00:02:53] You know, a little butter from that back door
[00:02:56] What?
[00:02:57] Well, what went wrong?
[00:03:06] Where did this happen?
[00:03:07] Man, there's so many things now that I've had actual time to sit here and think, there's
[00:03:13] so many things went wrong, you know?
[00:03:16] Trying to have an all-girl alliance on day two with people you just met and it's like
[00:03:20] seven of us, that's a big number.
[00:03:23] Very big number.
[00:03:24] We should have downsize, just pick maybe a few people but I get the premise, we're all
[00:03:29] trying to get this girl thing happening.
[00:03:31] It couldn't work because we would have a number of people, this would have been great
[00:03:34] but it's like, you have a lot of new people that don't know each other, how is that going
[00:03:38] to work?
[00:03:39] Right?
[00:03:40] So now that I really do sit here and reflect, I can see there's a few cracks in that
[00:03:43] one.
[00:03:44] Yeah, we've been talking about this and I wonder if part of it too is that you don't feel
[00:03:51] like you've been chosen to join the alliance because you automatically have the card.
[00:03:56] Yeah.
[00:03:57] You know what I mean?
[00:03:58] Yeah.
[00:03:59] And so there needs to be a lot of reassurance and we are actually choosing to do this.
[00:04:04] Yes, exactly.
[00:04:06] And I've always been thinking we have so many different types of people.
[00:04:10] We all communicate differently.
[00:04:12] We all mean reassurance in different ways and different frequencies.
[00:04:16] Like Bailey, I need to talk to her every few hours.
[00:04:19] I love you, Bailey.
[00:04:20] I love her.
[00:04:21] I love her, for a girl and Bailey.
[00:04:22] You know, and Lex says she can go five days without saying an audience.
[00:04:26] She still thinks you're good with her.
[00:04:27] So it's like very contrasting communication styles.
[00:04:32] Very hard to do it.
[00:04:33] Well, let's talk about spicy V because ultimately she was the cause of your downfall here.
[00:04:40] Yes.
[00:04:41] So obviously spicy V, she comes in with Anthony.
[00:04:47] They do have a bit of a relationship outside the house.
[00:04:49] Of course, they're going to downplay that inside the house.
[00:04:52] What was it about spicy V that like really because all of the women seem to trust her almost
[00:04:58] more than any of the other women?
[00:05:00] But despite that, she was kind of, you know, the one that maybe they needed to look out
[00:05:04] for the most.
[00:05:05] It's funny because if anything, I think she's like the female Anthony.
[00:05:09] So the same thing is happening on the guy side.
[00:05:11] If all the guys looking at Anthony as if he's a god, like he's going to be untouchable
[00:05:16] and it's going to be a girl that takes him out.
[00:05:17] I do not see one guy turning on him.
[00:05:19] I swear to God, like with speed, what's spicy?
[00:05:24] She was just so good at downplaying her relationship with him but not just personal but
[00:05:29] game.
[00:05:30] So I was talking to her and like she was talking to us and she's like really saying like,
[00:05:34] wow, why is Juggie always like blown me off?
[00:05:36] I try to talk to him.
[00:05:37] He never talks to me.
[00:05:38] I feel offended because I'm the only other all star he should be wanting to talk game
[00:05:43] with me, right?
[00:05:45] And it's like actually how many freaking convinced until it was her HOH.
[00:05:49] I was like, hmm, like bailing out on the kitchen there.
[00:05:52] We're talking like, well, why do I keep seeing Anthony going up there like a few times
[00:05:56] a day?
[00:05:57] But then I was like, aha, he's trying to run her HOH.
[00:06:01] She can't be working with him.
[00:06:02] So I kind of jumped the gun on that.
[00:06:04] I should have thought about it more.
[00:06:05] I mean, like wait, what if there's something that's spicy?
[00:06:08] Like isn't landing on, right?
[00:06:10] So I just had too much faith in the girl, you know?
[00:06:15] It seemed like some of the initial tension within the women was surrounded sort of around
[00:06:21] Lexus.
[00:06:23] Yes.
[00:06:24] And I think from our perspective, we actually saw like spicy kind of like lighting that flame
[00:06:31] and then going to Lexus and being like Donna's doing all this.
[00:06:36] Shut up.
[00:06:37] Are you kidding me?
[00:06:38] Definitely not.
[00:06:39] No, we don't have live feeds.
[00:06:41] We just have the drops in the episode.
[00:06:42] So like we are missing some context, but like that definitely was what it seemed like
[00:06:46] was happening.
[00:06:47] They were hidden against each other.
[00:06:49] That is so crazy.
[00:06:50] I had no idea.
[00:06:51] As I haven't really watched much, like I'm gonna wait probably like a way today or two,
[00:06:55] like the PTSD like simmer.
[00:06:58] Yeah.
[00:06:59] You know, that's nuts.
[00:07:02] I had no idea that she was like hitting us.
[00:07:05] It was like because she like heard my insecurity and probably like ran with it, right?
[00:07:08] So that's so how like what was your perspective on your relationship with Lexus sort
[00:07:14] of through the.
[00:07:15] We're just very different people.
[00:07:17] I'm like a puppy when it comes to like new people, I need someone to like want to pet
[00:07:22] me and like give me some attention.
[00:07:24] Or like she could just be a bear in a cave, hibernating and she's fine.
[00:07:28] So like right off the bat, I'm like, I don't feel like she's welcoming me and like giving
[00:07:33] me a warm welcome and just like reaching out to me.
[00:07:36] So I was like, does she hate me?
[00:07:37] So then I give off that energy back of like awkward.
[00:07:40] So we were just awkward until we finally had, I don't know if it was air but there was
[00:07:45] like a big chat or we're in the H.O.H. room or discussing Lexus and we're like, I was
[00:07:49] like, well you're doing a great damn job is I don't figure what the girls anymore.
[00:07:53] Like you're doing group and that keep it up.
[00:07:55] I'm glad we had this chat because I thought you were not with us anymore.
[00:07:59] So wow.
[00:08:00] Okay, well talk to me about the East Coast Alliance.
[00:08:06] Yeah, so I don't want their broadcasting out there.
[00:08:10] Everybody keeps asking about me or asking about this today but it's more so an agreement
[00:08:15] of like, I thought you look up for me.
[00:08:17] It's never talking game.
[00:08:19] It's just like, I was kind of like the big sister alliance.
[00:08:22] I had this group of like some really close friends.
[00:08:24] Todd Bailey, first of all, loved them and V-bikes in there too and I'm like, okay, I'm
[00:08:29] looking up for him.
[00:08:30] He's a floater.
[00:08:31] So I'm like, he's good to have.
[00:08:32] Maybe I'll need a sway of oak, right?
[00:08:34] So it was never like we're pulling them in for like huge game talk.
[00:08:37] It was more so like you hear my name, you let me know and vice versa.
[00:08:40] And we would just give it silly names but yeah, I don't know what if they were trying
[00:08:43] to make it like a big thing but if anything, it was like a Todd Bailey and Donna thing
[00:08:49] eventually in there.
[00:08:50] Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:51] I mean, it seemed like from our perspective at least like there was potential for something
[00:08:57] to eventually build but that there wasn't anything really solid yet.
[00:09:02] Yeah.
[00:09:03] It kind of.
[00:09:04] V-bikes, I just could not depend on him.
[00:09:09] I would like, can you please give me an answer on this?
[00:09:11] Are you going to support me or like anytime I need an answer he just couldn't give me
[00:09:15] one and I was like, you're playing the middleman aren't you?
[00:09:19] I knew that like happily and like, oh, I can't rely on him but I still might need him
[00:09:24] so keep them around.
[00:09:26] You know?
[00:09:27] Well, talk to me a bit about V-vick because we saw Justin in today's drop with the campaigning
[00:09:33] for you to stay.
[00:09:35] It seemed like there was a lot of back and forth with V-vick about like is he willing to
[00:09:38] keep you?
[00:09:39] Is he not willing to keep you?
[00:09:40] Ultimately we see that he did not vote to keep you.
[00:09:43] Clearly he didn't think it was good to keep a target in the house when he was just
[00:09:47] in my shoes right?
[00:09:48] I think that's a little bad for his game to be honest.
[00:09:51] He was the target like the whole house they heard this, I don't know if it was a lie because
[00:09:56] you know what's real there's this big rumor going around like he's saying this is saying
[00:10:00] that everybody's saying his name.
[00:10:02] There's a big blow up he's a perfect target but he was going to go home.
[00:10:06] If he didn't win that P-o-v or sorry, he didn't win the P-o-v and take him off he was going
[00:10:10] to go home so he's in my shoes.
[00:10:12] He understands how bad it is to go against shoes.
[00:10:15] I was like hello you're the only target maybe you and Tola.
[00:10:19] So now I'm a new target in the house which is scary but you should look at this as an
[00:10:23] advantage for you.
[00:10:24] You want another target if there's now two targets and you that's better.
[00:10:29] If it's you and Tola that's where I'm here.
[00:10:31] If it's you and Tola it's one of you goes on the block there's three of us there's
[00:10:36] a good chance that you won't even touch the block for a week.
[00:10:39] Like think about it, you know like you are kind of the bottom of the tone poll like
[00:10:44] because you're more of a floater like people are looking at the target and this has it
[00:10:48] so quick you just want to keep the targets in.
[00:10:50] Vote out the ponser and keep the people out people are looking at because they won't
[00:10:54] look at you later.
[00:10:56] So.
[00:10:57] Yeah, well tell me about the confrontation with Vivek up in the H.O.H. room him and Bailey
[00:11:04] kind of went at it.
[00:11:06] So he definitely hurt Bailey's feelings because we had that East Coast thing spicy V I don't
[00:11:13] know what she did in that conversation scared of her something because he's out here throwing
[00:11:18] Todd and Bailey as nominee potentials.
[00:11:21] He basically was just like refused to hear anything other than him saying those names
[00:11:29] like totally set them up.
[00:11:31] No, yeah, cuz oh yeah, that's not good.
[00:11:36] I want to talk to that clip on.
[00:11:38] I'm in this conversation and all I know like his from all I know at this point is
[00:11:43] Vivek just started yapping like a canary or a same like a canary and said Todd and Bailey
[00:11:49] and you really can't trust Bailey and Bailey had his back like she was very hurt and she's
[00:11:56] just a passionate fiery person and might look like she's bullying her something but she's
[00:12:02] trying to get to the bottom of the point like his he's going around saying we have a
[00:12:06] alliance apparently to her and she's like is there a alliance and he goes no and then she
[00:12:11] goes well why did you just say it?
[00:12:13] You were just that government you know she's like she's trying to get to the point and she's
[00:12:16] hurt and she's a very explosive gal sometimes.
[00:12:19] I love her though.
[00:12:20] All right, well I also have to of course ask about the smooch there.
[00:12:25] I mean, this trending topic of the day do it go ahead.
[00:12:30] What's what's happening how how how serious is the smooch?
[00:12:34] Well, you know we're talking about going somewhere after she gets out of the house eventually
[00:12:40] so I don't want to see him too soon but I do want to film this trip like her yeah I'm
[00:12:44] really hurt myself.
[00:12:45] They get out like I don't know how much you watch and in the daily stuff like we were
[00:12:51] really close friends and then eventually halfway in that game like it definitely did
[00:12:55] turn into a more romantic thing and it was really nice as I could really count on him.
[00:13:00] He was literally on slot for a week and when I got put up as the replacement nominee
[00:13:05] he offered to make me spaghetti like he wanted to cook for me.
[00:13:08] I'm like you literally can barely move in that couch and even like set up a laugh at a
[00:13:12] joke that you're so low energy and like sad yourself like I will wait for you to get
[00:13:16] off stop and we'll cook together and eat together because I don't want to eat in front
[00:13:20] of you.
[00:13:21] That's crazy but he's so selfless and he's really loving and it just organically happened
[00:13:26] but yeah I don't know and then on that last night when I knew like I'm not getting the
[00:13:32] campaign votes like it's just not going to work.
[00:13:34] I'm too much of a candidate like I'm too much of a strong player that they want to kick
[00:13:38] me out if they don't kick me out it would be dumb as I'd be there till the end so good
[00:13:42] on them but like yeah I let him kiss me there was definitely some chemistry and I am excited
[00:13:48] to see him again for sure.
[00:13:49] Alright well thank you so much Don and this was great.
[00:13:52] Yeah I know I know a lot of fun with you.
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