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[00:02:02] Hello everyone and welcome to RHA PI and your host
[00:02:22] Teran Armstrong and we are here tonight to talk about
[00:02:26] Big Brother Canada 12 eviction episode.
[00:02:30] Teran Armstrong and we got some stuff to talk about.
[00:02:35] For instance, one of my guests here, Mary stole my water
[00:02:40] bottle.
[00:02:41] Yeah.
[00:02:42] Mary.
[00:02:43] Yeah.
[00:02:44] Well, I mean Teran, you know, it was really just an
[00:02:47] incentive for you to stop drinking water because we
[00:02:52] all call you P P Teran.
[00:02:53] He's always in the bathroom.
[00:02:55] So we just over hydrated needed to, you know, it's all part of a
[00:03:00] bigger plan.
[00:03:01] Well, my other guest tonight.
[00:03:06] We call him P P Pouya.
[00:03:08] No, no, we do not.
[00:03:10] Don't you tear and rope me and P P Teran.
[00:03:13] This is what happens when you put me on the spot at 11 o'clock
[00:03:18] at night.
[00:03:19] Yeah, we absolutely do not call me P P Pouya.
[00:03:22] I said it in my head and started laughing.
[00:03:26] Yeah, I'm very close to P P Pou Pou so you can't do that
[00:03:29] either.
[00:03:30] It's a little too close.
[00:03:32] Oh, God.
[00:03:33] I'm sorry.
[00:03:34] I'm sorry.
[00:03:35] I'm sorry.
[00:03:36] I'm sorry.
[00:03:37] I'm sorry.
[00:03:38] I'm sorry.
[00:03:39] I'm sorry.
[00:03:41] Oh, yeah.
[00:03:44] How are you doing tonight?
[00:03:46] I'm doing good.
[00:03:47] I'm happy to be back finally.
[00:03:49] You know, I made a little appearance last week on the
[00:03:51] podcast for two seconds.
[00:03:53] I was not living but I'm here to not only hang out with two
[00:03:56] lovely friends but also to celebrate the next chapter of
[00:03:59] the curse and that is I'm on steam getting whittled down
[00:04:02] one by one.
[00:04:03] So the party starts tonight.
[00:04:05] Yes, I did.
[00:04:07] I was asking that.
[00:04:08] I was asking my chat tonight like, all right, who had Matt on
[00:04:11] their team and they said a mon.
[00:04:13] I said, who else does a man have on his team?
[00:04:16] And he said, and they said.
[00:04:18] Lexus and goose.
[00:04:23] It's not not out of the realm of possibility here.
[00:04:26] Yeah.
[00:04:27] Curses or just keep on rolling in.
[00:04:30] Hmm.
[00:04:31] I believe Hamster watch also tweeted out another possible
[00:04:36] curse, which is the the the portrait curse.
[00:04:41] That big portrait they have of everyone.
[00:04:44] All of the evicted players are standing.
[00:04:48] Oh, so far.
[00:04:50] How many are seated?
[00:04:51] Yeah, seated are Todd, spicy, Kayla, Tola, Bailey,
[00:04:58] Lexus and Anthony.
[00:05:00] Interesting.
[00:05:02] Okay.
[00:05:03] So Avery is standing then.
[00:05:05] Avery is standing.
[00:05:07] Goose is standing.
[00:05:08] They're the only two standings left.
[00:05:10] Well,
[00:05:13] Yeah.
[00:05:14] I mean, it's you know, it's risky making a move as HOH.
[00:05:17] So could see could see Avery going.
[00:05:20] This is a possible.
[00:05:23] Yeah.
[00:05:24] Listen, if goose went left went next, then we would once
[00:05:28] again be hit with a situation where we're with two competing
[00:05:32] curses were facing off.
[00:05:34] Oh, is it going to be Lexus or is it going to be Avery?
[00:05:39] Anyway, let's talk about this episode.
[00:05:42] Let's let's let's talk about it.
[00:05:46] I mean, guys, what a funny print.
[00:05:52] Listen, let me be the first to say as an owner of a Samsung
[00:05:56] Galaxy Ultra great phone.
[00:05:59] This is the S 22 model.
[00:06:00] I'm not too fancy to have the 24 that being said, and I
[00:06:04] loved seeing the ding dongs back alley.
[00:06:06] I love them both.
[00:06:09] This prank was a little too long for my liking and it didn't
[00:06:13] translate like the translation translated, but it didn't
[00:06:17] hit the same that I think they would have wanted it to hit
[00:06:20] for me personally.
[00:06:22] Yeah.
[00:06:23] As the owner of two Samsung Galaxy phones.
[00:06:28] Hey, are we all going to show off today?
[00:06:31] Like what are we doing?
[00:06:33] No, neither of them are ultras though because my pockets
[00:06:36] are small.
[00:06:37] Two phones, though.
[00:06:39] Got it.
[00:06:40] Got to have two phones.
[00:06:41] Yeah.
[00:06:42] So the my question is as someone who has not seen the
[00:06:48] first couple seasons of Big Brother Canada have the
[00:06:51] pranks always been a thing like I know the whole moose
[00:06:54] situation mission.
[00:06:57] Has that been like from the beginning?
[00:06:59] Yeah.
[00:07:00] Or okay, because my hunch is that the pranks stem from
[00:07:07] looking back at the old, old seasons of Big Brother and
[00:07:11] the segments that they would put together of, oh, look
[00:07:14] at this person.
[00:07:15] Aren't they wacky?
[00:07:16] Look at their sleepwalking.
[00:07:18] Look at their sleep talking.
[00:07:19] Look at their, oh, they don't know how to tell time
[00:07:22] or whatever.
[00:07:23] And then sometimes they're like, yeah, but what if we
[00:07:25] don't have people who have any of those moments and we
[00:07:27] can't do a montage?
[00:07:28] Let's just put one in.
[00:07:30] Let's just put a silly thing in and manufacture it.
[00:07:33] And it just, I think for me, I would enjoy them even
[00:07:37] though they'd be very bad for the people involved if
[00:07:40] they lasted longer, not on the show, but like in real
[00:07:44] life.
[00:07:45] Like don't hit me with a you're on slop and then
[00:07:48] two seconds later you're off slop or like, oh,
[00:07:51] weird stuff's happening.
[00:07:52] Oh, but now you have a pizza party.
[00:07:54] Like I need more suspense for the payoff.
[00:07:59] Yeah, I mean, obviously there are examples of like
[00:08:06] international versions that do things like this, but it's
[00:08:10] also not unfamiliar to B.B.
[00:08:12] U.S. who especially in the early days had some kinds
[00:08:17] of things like this and then America's player was
[00:08:20] very like this where they would give America's player
[00:08:23] some tasks to do and and honestly, like they did it
[00:08:28] better than I do that for a dollar.
[00:08:31] Like it still hits Dan hugging Jesse for a long
[00:08:35] time still hits stealing water bottles did not hit.
[00:08:42] This was a disaster.
[00:08:45] The stealing water bottles did not hit for me.
[00:08:48] The second part the telling everyone like an uncomfortable
[00:08:51] truth about them.
[00:08:52] I liked that one that was closer to their stuff and it's
[00:08:55] hard for me to tell whether or not it's just the editing
[00:08:57] that I don't like where everything feels so much more
[00:09:00] goofy as opposed to.
[00:09:02] I mean, it's not like that the hug and the I do that
[00:09:05] for a dollar.
[00:09:06] They're also silly, but I don't know if it's like
[00:09:09] the person doing it or something.
[00:09:11] Maybe it's just the fact that they weren't HD.
[00:09:13] Something about that just feels more real and more
[00:09:16] like, oh, this is like a dare you tell someone and not
[00:09:19] just like, oh, shucks.
[00:09:21] Where are all the water bottles kind of thing?
[00:09:24] Well, like I think the like of the the because there
[00:09:28] was a third time.
[00:09:29] I honestly don't even remember what the third one the
[00:09:31] nap one the nap.
[00:09:32] The nap.
[00:09:33] That was God awful.
[00:09:34] The but the second one is the only one that had any
[00:09:38] promise, but like in order to make this compelling
[00:09:41] television in my opinion, you just like plant us in
[00:09:44] the shoes of spicy, like stick us in a normal
[00:09:47] conversation and then like give us the build up of
[00:09:51] like, oh, do I say something?
[00:09:53] My God.
[00:09:54] Right.
[00:09:55] And then say it and then you know, like you can't
[00:09:57] just like montage her saying a bunch of like drive
[00:10:00] by comments to people and expect that to be funny,
[00:10:02] especially when and I also love the ding dongs,
[00:10:05] but like when they're cracking up, like it's
[00:10:07] the most hilarious thing they've seen in their
[00:10:10] life and and it's and it's not like that.
[00:10:13] That only made it worse.
[00:10:14] Like maybe this was funny to watch on the live feeds,
[00:10:19] but let me tell you didn't quite hit for me in the
[00:10:22] episode which for me that's why what I mean by it
[00:10:25] was a little too long.
[00:10:27] I feel like we all agree the harsh truth.
[00:10:29] This one was probably the best part of that more
[00:10:32] of that and maybe cutting one of the other one
[00:10:34] short would have been the move.
[00:10:35] It just felt like they stretched it out far
[00:10:37] too thin and then didn't have enough time for
[00:10:39] all of it, but I also wouldn't have wanted
[00:10:41] 20 minutes of this.
[00:10:42] I feel like it would have been too much.
[00:10:44] I think they could have cut a couple of the unnecessary
[00:10:46] parts to go with it.
[00:10:47] Someone did mention and I agree, you know,
[00:10:50] I think of you want a good mission that's recent.
[00:10:52] Kevin quitting the fake quit from BB can 10 with
[00:10:56] the tears and the and the dramatics.
[00:10:58] Now that's a good prank right there.
[00:11:00] And maybe it really is just so dependent on the
[00:11:03] person that's going to do it.
[00:11:05] But OK, let me brainstorm this with you for a
[00:11:08] second. Would this land at all?
[00:11:10] I don't know.
[00:11:11] If you want to know what you're going to do with
[00:11:14] the entire episode, you can find out by the
[00:11:16] first part of the show.
[00:11:18] I'm going to put this on.
[00:11:21] Give spicy V the harsh truths prank at the
[00:11:24] beginning of the episode, one of the first
[00:11:26] things we get and then show the whole
[00:11:28] episode.
[00:11:30] Show it like it happens and maybe she didn't
[00:11:32] do this this way in real time, but it would
[00:11:35] have been great to have all these conversations
[00:11:37] and then show it in context.
[00:11:39] And like, yeah, like I can imagine like I can
[00:11:42] imagine like spicy is having the conversation
[00:11:44] with Matt about the vote.
[00:11:46] And then in the middle of that has to be like,
[00:11:49] and you really think.
[00:11:51] Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
[00:11:53] I think that's a good idea.
[00:11:55] And then at the end of the episode,
[00:11:57] I'm going to put this on the show.
[00:11:59] And then at the end of the episode,
[00:12:01] I'm going to put this on the show.
[00:12:03] And then at the end of the episode,
[00:12:05] and you really think, yeah.
[00:12:07] And then you even get her perspective of him
[00:12:09] going off to shower and she's like, like,
[00:12:11] oh, I just had such a personal conversation
[00:12:13] with him or he's campaigning,
[00:12:15] but I got to slip this in.
[00:12:17] I think that would have been funnier.
[00:12:19] And I don't think she did it that way.
[00:12:21] I think she did just run up to people and say
[00:12:23] things, but at that point,
[00:12:24] you just bring her back in the diar and be like,
[00:12:26] listen, we need you to do it in a more
[00:12:28] fun way.
[00:12:30] And that was my thing was like I was
[00:12:33] like, I'm going to do it in a more fun way.
[00:12:35] And then I was like, I'm going to do it in a more
[00:12:38] fun way.
[00:12:39] And my first thought was if I'm in that house
[00:12:42] and I get called into the diary room
[00:12:44] and they tell me my prank is that I need to
[00:12:46] steal water bottles.
[00:12:48] I genuinely, I promise you,
[00:12:50] I would say, hold on guys,
[00:12:52] we can think of something better.
[00:12:54] I'm down like let's find something that's going
[00:12:57] to make for a little bit of better TV here.
[00:13:01] I'm not just going to look up to the,
[00:13:04] you know, the lights of big brother,
[00:13:06] the big, the gods and be like, guys.
[00:13:09] Flip it on them.
[00:13:10] You're like, hey,
[00:13:11] I will hang up this phone call if you do not
[00:13:14] come up with a better prank right now because
[00:13:16] this isn't going to happen.
[00:13:19] Yeah.
[00:13:20] So there was that.
[00:13:22] Honestly,
[00:13:23] it probably the worst prank segment of the
[00:13:26] big brother can ever.
[00:13:30] But who knows?
[00:13:32] Maybe I'm forgetting one.
[00:13:33] I do like that we got a cameo out of it,
[00:13:35] especially cameo would have not expected to see.
[00:13:38] I feel like, you know,
[00:13:39] the BB can has kind of done returning cameos
[00:13:44] through either the people that they've already
[00:13:46] decided are stars or very recent season people.
[00:13:50] So to get the ding dongs who I feel like
[00:13:52] haven't really ticked the boxes of being
[00:13:55] like the superstars,
[00:13:56] but also are from what seven years ago.
[00:14:00] I did like that.
[00:14:01] So I did appreciate that,
[00:14:02] but the pranks could have been better.
[00:14:04] Well, but to me it's like, it's like, use them better.
[00:14:06] Like, I agree.
[00:14:07] Have them show up and be like, hey guys,
[00:14:11] we're joining the game.
[00:14:14] You know what I mean?
[00:14:15] Like do something with them.
[00:14:17] Like have them do that.
[00:14:18] And then people will be like, no, they're not,
[00:14:20] but then keep them there all day.
[00:14:21] Start to talk game with people like,
[00:14:25] you know, like come on.
[00:14:27] We can think of something.
[00:14:28] This is the show.
[00:14:29] This is the franchise that stuck identical twins in the house
[00:14:33] and had them switch out back and forth for like,
[00:14:36] you know, like 30 something days.
[00:14:39] And then it turned their entire worlds around
[00:14:43] when they went with another one walked in the door.
[00:14:45] Like we can be a little more creative.
[00:14:48] Do you know how good it would have been if,
[00:14:50] because I don't know what the movie massacre twist is.
[00:14:53] It's twist is necessarily,
[00:14:54] but if they brought these two during the movie massacre,
[00:14:56] I'm like, yeah, we're replacing two of you.
[00:14:58] It's a double eviction.
[00:14:59] Could you imagine the stress that would have developed with
[00:15:02] would have been great.
[00:15:03] Yeah.
[00:15:04] Like pull draw like.
[00:15:06] Arissa comes on the screen.
[00:15:07] The lights come down.
[00:15:08] Arissa says it's time for another big twist,
[00:15:11] just like the executive veto.
[00:15:14] The doorbell will be ringing soon.
[00:15:16] Ali and and and and and Olivia walk in and and Arissa says,
[00:15:21] well, they'll be replacing two of you.
[00:15:23] Like they're going to freak out.
[00:15:25] It's going to be way more fun.
[00:15:26] Come on.
[00:15:28] It would be so great.
[00:15:29] It'd be so great.
[00:15:30] And the upside of we could be in in sort of practically a fans
[00:15:34] versus favorite season then,
[00:15:35] depending on who they were playing.
[00:15:37] Just keep adding people until it's all starts.
[00:15:41] Oh boy.
[00:15:42] So the rest of this episode,
[00:15:44] a large part of it was just this back and forth with
[00:15:50] spicy and, you know, Matt and company about the vote,
[00:15:55] which spicy was was never going to really flip here.
[00:15:58] But in the process has sort of tipped her hand and shown
[00:16:03] Anthony that he cannot rely on spicy.
[00:16:08] He finally has realized the thing that has been happening
[00:16:11] all season, which is that he's like protecting her with
[00:16:17] his people while she has been making other people target him
[00:16:23] and then going to him and then making him target them.
[00:16:25] And very much sort of like playing that role and he very
[00:16:29] much like knows it now, which is interesting because then
[00:16:34] the question is what is he going to do about it?
[00:16:36] What can he do about it at this point?
[00:16:39] But but it did kind of leave the rest of the episode,
[00:16:42] especially because there wasn't much of that as well.
[00:16:46] And I think that's a bit of like a like long goodbye to Matt.
[00:16:52] Yeah, it's I'm glad to see that Anthony does recognize this
[00:16:55] and especially now with his numbers being down,
[00:16:58] it allows us to hopefully get a little more active gameplay
[00:17:01] from Anthony.
[00:17:02] I think several of us have said from the beginning,
[00:17:05] you know, you put a player like Anthony in the house.
[00:17:07] We want to see him play.
[00:17:08] We don't want him to to walk to the finish.
[00:17:11] And while spicy V was definitely making making it complicated
[00:17:16] for him, sort of.
[00:17:17] But for most of the votes, she then this is like really the
[00:17:20] first one where it hasn't ended up going the way that Anthony
[00:17:24] more or less wanted.
[00:17:27] I guess you could argue last week too,
[00:17:28] but that was a little bit more.
[00:17:29] That's a little, a little bit out of her control.
[00:17:33] But it's I think that it's good that we're seeing this.
[00:17:38] The question is that like, is he going to be active or is he
[00:17:44] just going to find other people to, you know,
[00:17:46] is he going to be able to convince spicy B back on his side,
[00:17:49] which I think is definitely possible.
[00:17:52] Yeah, this has intrigued me a whole lot.
[00:17:54] I do feel like in the early goings of the season,
[00:17:57] it kind of felt like, all right, steamroll, it's happening.
[00:18:00] Let's just fast forward to the end game already.
[00:18:03] Now I'm intrigued because like you said,
[00:18:05] I feel like we can all agree Anthony is a really good player,
[00:18:08] very capable player, one of the best players.
[00:18:10] And I'm very happy to see him in a bit of a compromising spot
[00:18:15] because I want to see how he cooks with this spot because I still
[00:18:18] think I wouldn't even say he's in that compromising of a spot
[00:18:21] necessarily.
[00:18:22] I want to see how we pivot from this.
[00:18:24] I'm very curious to see how he pivots from this and I
[00:18:27] mean zero offense, but I didn't really care about Matt.
[00:18:32] So the whole audio to Matt wasn't really doing much for me.
[00:18:36] I'm way more intrigued to see where we go from here moving forward.
[00:18:40] Yeah, and especially with the conversation that Elijah had with
[00:18:47] Kayla in the car when he was talking about like Matt doesn't
[00:18:51] need you. I need you.
[00:18:52] Like the fact that Elijah recognizes that makes me hope that
[00:18:56] he will start fighting a little more.
[00:18:59] I mean, I know he said like, oh, what's an addiction without me
[00:19:03] being on the block?
[00:19:04] Like keep me around, blah, blah, blah.
[00:19:06] But I think that he's a player who's at least self-interested
[00:19:09] enough to hope like to be trying to do something different
[00:19:12] to be trying to, you know, he had his talk with Todd as well.
[00:19:15] So I think that he's, I see more interesting moves from him
[00:19:20] possibly or more gameplay with him in it rather than Matt
[00:19:25] who's just going to like sit and coast and hope his alliance
[00:19:28] does well and maybe win.
[00:19:30] I mean, I think that with Matt's departure, there's nine players
[00:19:36] left in the game.
[00:19:38] And there's there's actually kind of like an interesting layout
[00:19:42] here because if you really boil it down, it's three trio.
[00:19:48] It's Anthony, Lexis and Tola.
[00:19:52] It's spicy Kayla and Avery.
[00:19:55] And then there's kind of a third trio that is loosely connected
[00:19:59] but still pretty much working together.
[00:20:03] And that's Bailey, Todd and Goose.
[00:20:05] Todd and Goose we see in this episode really connecting.
[00:20:09] I don't know how Anthony dropped the ball and let Goose
[00:20:12] go to Todd instead of to him, but it seems to have happened.
[00:20:16] And that's actually more dangerous for spicy and company
[00:20:22] than if he had gone to Anthony because, you know, a Todd
[00:20:25] who has Goose and Bailey all of a sudden is looking kind of
[00:20:31] dangerous to anybody in the game, especially when a sort
[00:20:36] of new fight has been inflamed between Anthony
[00:20:39] and spicy themselves.
[00:20:41] And so the game is looking a little interesting.
[00:20:46] So I feel like I somehow missed when this happened.
[00:20:50] When did when and why did Anthony ever let Todd not be with him?
[00:20:57] Like how did how did that not become a thing?
[00:21:01] Very early on, Todd screwed up and said in front of a bunch
[00:21:06] of women something like he meant he said something that
[00:21:09] implied that the guys were working together.
[00:21:11] And so I think Anthony and a bunch of people in the house
[00:21:17] at the time felt like Todd is unreliable.
[00:21:20] He's not somebody that we can really bring in and give
[00:21:23] information to on top of that, Todd was close with Vivek
[00:21:27] and Donna and eventually got into showman's with Donna.
[00:21:32] And we know where they stood about Anthony early on.
[00:21:35] And so from early on, he had a lot of anti Anthony
[00:21:38] influences. And so then when when eventually Vivek,
[00:21:43] that whole situation happened, Todd sided with Bailey and Donna
[00:21:46] over Vivek, lost Donna only had Bailey left.
[00:21:50] And Bailey has also been a fairly anti Anthony force.
[00:21:53] And so he's always kind of been on the other side of things.
[00:21:56] Goose in the other hand has been a spicy puppet for a while.
[00:22:01] We learned that last week before his eyes opened and he
[00:22:04] realized, oh my God, spicy has been playing me at which
[00:22:07] point I figured that Anthony, who he talked to and gave
[00:22:11] really good advice to Goose would have picked goose up.
[00:22:15] The thing is that for whatever reason, we haven't seen any of
[00:22:19] this on the drops at the very least.
[00:22:21] Anthony doesn't seem to be talking to Goose anymore.
[00:22:23] And after giving him the very good advice,
[00:22:27] the advice that probably is why Goose is here and not
[00:22:29] Matt this week, which was to like pretend like he doesn't
[00:22:33] care and like he forgives spicy and that it was big screw up.
[00:22:39] After all of that, who still wanted to keep Todd that week.
[00:22:42] Goose's decision to eliminate Tola first in the rejection
[00:22:47] chain is why the executive veto went to spicy instead of
[00:22:52] say Anthony because of how the math works.
[00:22:56] And now Goose has only continued to get closer to Todd
[00:22:59] and is now a Todd guy seemingly, which isn't the worst thing.
[00:23:04] It's not as bad as being a spicy guy.
[00:23:07] But being a Todd guy is not great because basically the
[00:23:14] way Todd sees the game now is that as we saw in the
[00:23:18] episode, like I talked about the trio, right?
[00:23:21] There's Anthony's trio, spicy's trio and kind of
[00:23:25] like the Bailey Todd trio.
[00:23:27] And spicy feels and ostensibly, she's correct that her trio
[00:23:32] is in the middle that Anthony will have to go after Bailey
[00:23:36] and Todd that Bailey and Todd will be going after Anthony
[00:23:38] because that's how things have been.
[00:23:40] However, the reality might be a little different after this
[00:23:44] week, Anthony and Lexis now know that spicy is not to
[00:23:49] be trusted and that those three are really tight and
[00:23:52] that they kind of want to go after them.
[00:23:54] And Tola in particular is specifically talking about
[00:23:57] definitely wanting to target one of the three of those
[00:24:00] women, not Bailey Todd or Goose.
[00:24:02] So there's a little bit of friction there.
[00:24:05] Todd recognizes this.
[00:24:07] We see in this episode is like, I don't think we even
[00:24:10] need to win necessarily.
[00:24:11] Let them battle it out together and the reality
[00:24:15] might be that Bailey Todd and Goose have somehow
[00:24:19] taken this game and come out on top and they are in the middle.
[00:24:24] I think that would be a very interesting outcome.
[00:24:28] I think that the situation is that Anthony and spicy V
[00:24:34] divided up the house where it ended up working out that way.
[00:24:38] And then while they can trust each other all they want
[00:24:43] and say that they're going to prevent their people from
[00:24:46] putting each other up, the truth of the matter is
[00:24:48] they can't prevent their people from putting up everyone on the other side.
[00:24:53] And at this point, well, what I mean is like,
[00:24:57] I guess what I mean is okay, even if you consider Elijah to no longer be
[00:25:03] one of spicy's people, if they had put him up or you know,
[00:25:06] taken him out this week, next week, someone from one of those
[00:25:11] two sides is going to have to go.
[00:25:15] And so I guess I'm like spicy can't prevent Avery from putting up
[00:25:19] all of Anthony, Alexis, Matt, Tola and I guess it's just that
[00:25:26] because they all had allegiances.
[00:25:27] That's what you're saying, right?
[00:25:28] Because they had all the same thing.
[00:25:29] We've gotten rid of all the middle people at this point.
[00:25:32] Yeah, they can.
[00:25:33] And spicy can prevent anyone on her side from putting up Anthony
[00:25:36] and vice versa.
[00:25:37] That is true.
[00:25:38] But they're getting too greedy where they don't want any of their
[00:25:41] people to go at this point.
[00:25:43] It's not just about Anthony and spicy.
[00:25:45] And so like a lot of their argument was like, well,
[00:25:47] no, I want one of your people to go.
[00:25:48] Don't you trust me?
[00:25:49] I have you and they're both like, yeah,
[00:25:51] but the thing is I want it to be my group and you.
[00:25:55] Not just, you know, it's not just about just the two of us
[00:25:58] anymore.
[00:25:59] And I think the thing that Anthony is arguing is correct in
[00:26:03] terms of like Anthony is a structure guy, right?
[00:26:06] And in order for a structure like this to work,
[00:26:09] you need to be doing the thing that keeps the structure the most
[00:26:13] safe the whole way through other,
[00:26:15] because if you do something that is worse for the structure,
[00:26:18] but better for you, it kind of breaks the whole thing,
[00:26:20] especially if you do that multiple times.
[00:26:23] And so, you know, what's happened is that spicy instead
[00:26:30] of doing what Anthony is doing,
[00:26:31] which is keeping all of his people from targeting spice,
[00:26:35] he's made Matt trust spicy way too much.
[00:26:38] Lexus trust spicy way too much.
[00:26:40] Tola even trust spicy way too much.
[00:26:43] All of Anthony's people are deeply in the spicy sauce and would
[00:26:49] never go after spicy.
[00:26:50] So it never makes any sense for the structure that Anthony
[00:26:53] and spicy together have put together to go after those
[00:26:57] people when they are the people who are the least likely
[00:27:00] to target the two of them.
[00:27:01] Whereas on spicy's end, she's actively encouraging her
[00:27:06] people to be targeting Anthony and targeting Anthony
[00:27:10] and putting him up and not trusting him.
[00:27:12] And so, and then in those and then she's telling Anthony,
[00:27:15] these people don't trust you.
[00:27:17] They want to put you up and then simultaneously telling Anthony,
[00:27:20] but I want to keep them around and take out the people who
[00:27:23] aren't going to put either of us up and take them out
[00:27:26] because they're your people.
[00:27:27] And so from Anthony's perspective, it's like this,
[00:27:29] this makes no sense.
[00:27:30] And he has finally figured out you are,
[00:27:32] you are telling target that you are actively playing me
[00:27:35] against these people.
[00:27:36] This is not our structure.
[00:27:37] This is your structure.
[00:27:39] And so the whole thing starts to fall apart at that point.
[00:27:44] So like, I think the thing that I would say is that if you
[00:27:49] want to play this game from spicy's perspective and you
[00:27:53] don't want to co-structure, you want this to be yours.
[00:27:56] You want all of your people.
[00:27:57] The trick to that is you don't actively have to get
[00:28:01] people to be targeting Anthony.
[00:28:03] You can be protecting Anthony in the short term so that when
[00:28:09] you want to take, to protect those people and take out some
[00:28:14] of Anthony's people, you have enough deniability to be like,
[00:28:18] no, these people are solid with you.
[00:28:20] This is not a huge loss for you.
[00:28:22] Like losing Matt is not a huge loss for you because you
[00:28:25] actively believe you also have Avery and Kayla and maybe
[00:28:30] even Bailey, but probably not.
[00:28:32] She's probably too hard to get Anthony to be convinced that
[00:28:34] she actually has her, but like so on and so forth, right?
[00:28:36] Like you need to be able to make everyone feel comfortable
[00:28:40] like they are solid.
[00:28:42] And that is what is not happening.
[00:28:44] And we are seeing the dissolution of this structure
[00:28:47] because of it.
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[00:31:23] Can I ask you, Taren, can you hit us with a quick power ranking
[00:31:26] right now of because you know, we talked about the three,
[00:31:29] the three threes, the three trios.
[00:31:31] Right now who is in the best spot?
[00:31:35] Overall.
[00:31:37] Best spot overall.
[00:31:39] Yeah.
[00:31:42] I think it's Bailey.
[00:31:43] Wild.
[00:31:44] That is a wild thing to say.
[00:31:46] Right.
[00:31:47] Incredible.
[00:31:49] Incredible.
[00:31:51] Spicy is still up there.
[00:31:53] I think spicy is still in a fine position.
[00:31:57] She's probably okay in a lot of scenarios,
[00:32:00] but like things are starting to slip around.
[00:32:02] Anthony is still OK for short term safety,
[00:32:05] probably, but long term his prospects have altered.
[00:32:08] Whereas like, like who's actively targeting Bailey right now?
[00:32:12] Not Anthony, not Lexis, not Tola,
[00:32:16] not any of the women, not Todd,
[00:32:18] not Goose.
[00:32:20] And none of them are even thinking about it really anymore.
[00:32:22] They're like actively Anthony side and they might change their mind,
[00:32:25] but right now they're kind of like, we trust Bailey more than we trust spicy.
[00:32:31] And why wouldn't they?
[00:32:32] They never had any deal with Bailey where Bailey should be looking out for them,
[00:32:37] but they did have a deal with spicy where she should be looking.
[00:32:41] So they feel very burned by that.
[00:32:44] And I think Bailey has done a very good job of projecting her reality
[00:32:51] onto spicy Kayla and Lexis because they have hot chocolate.
[00:32:55] They have the directors and they had a lot of safety
[00:32:59] and like a huge road like runway in front of them for how this game could play out.
[00:33:04] And Bailey's sort of like idea of how the house should be working
[00:33:10] would like sort of infected their minds to think that is right.
[00:33:13] That is the only way that things can go.
[00:33:15] And they didn't even really consider how much power they had
[00:33:18] as they sort of chopping off their own limbs.
[00:33:21] And I think a huge, I think Bailey is very good at like just staying on top of people
[00:33:29] and continuing to like force that reality onto them, intentional or not.
[00:33:34] But like, and I know some of it's intentional,
[00:33:36] but like Bailey is very, very good at talk blocking.
[00:33:40] When when Anthony talks about like it's hard to get in a room with you spicy.
[00:33:44] It's because Bailey always joins when Lexis talks about the women.
[00:33:48] Like I'm I can't ever find time to talk with you guys because you're always with Bailey.
[00:33:53] Bailey is actively being like, whoa, whoa, guys, Anthony's in the room with Avery alone right now.
[00:33:58] We need to go break that up.
[00:34:00] Bailey is constantly making sure she is in these rooms,
[00:34:04] like pushing her agenda.
[00:34:07] And because she pushes it in a frame that is this is what's best for us, not them, they're buying it
[00:34:18] because she believes it because she doesn't know about all the other stuff they have going on.
[00:34:23] And that's what's so fascinating about Bailey is that this is not from my perspective.
[00:34:27] This is not the moves of someone who is trying to mastermind.
[00:34:31] This is the moves of someone who legitimately feels like this is her truth.
[00:34:36] This is her world, her perspective and legitimately feels like, oh no, this is dangerous to have these people talk.
[00:34:43] And she's it's funny to say that she's in one of the better spots considering the fact that I think to her if you asked her,
[00:34:49] she probably does not feel safe.
[00:34:50] She probably feels she seems so like high key all the time of like, no, oh my gosh, how dare they talk that way?
[00:34:58] How dare they do this? Oh no, we got to fix this.
[00:34:59] We got to do this problem.
[00:35:01] You know, and I think that that's really fascinating to have someone like that because if she does end up ever getting any power.
[00:35:08] Honestly, if she gets any power, it'll probably make her in a worse spot.
[00:35:11] But before she is right now, things are okay.
[00:35:15] Think about the trajectory for Bailey just briefly.
[00:35:18] Let's say that Anthony's team takes more hits and eventually like dies off.
[00:35:26] That leaves Bailey in the middle of the two remaining trios.
[00:35:32] She's got Todd and Goose on one side.
[00:35:34] She's got spicy Avery and Kaylee on the other side.
[00:35:36] Spicy Avery and Kayla are going to go after Todd and Goose before they go after her.
[00:35:40] And vice versa, Todd and Goose will go after the those three women or at the very least Avery and I mean certainly.
[00:35:46] Yeah, those three women before they go after Bailey.
[00:35:47] Bailey, if Anthony's side takes a shot at Spicy's side and they lose some numbers.
[00:35:56] That's still fine because then she just continues to join forces with Spicy's side.
[00:36:01] They still have the numbers against Anthony's side.
[00:36:03] They wipe them out and now she's in an even better spot than she was before.
[00:36:07] The worst case scenario is if Anthony's side wins and decides to take a shot at Bailey or Todd or Goose.
[00:36:14] And has to lose one of those numbers first.
[00:36:18] But like this week has been like a massive push to get that to not happen essentially with all this mad stuff.
[00:36:26] So it's basically like one more hurdle to get over.
[00:36:31] If she can get through one more week where her Todd and Goose remain intact.
[00:36:36] I think she's very well set up to go far.
[00:36:41] Yeah.
[00:36:43] Yeah.
[00:36:45] And this is to circle back to what you were talking about earlier.
[00:36:48] What's funny about the structure that Anthony and Victoria have created is that Anthony has given Victoria too much power because he was thinking, oh, well just, you know, here's the plan.
[00:36:59] You got your side. I got my side will protect each other, whatever.
[00:37:00] And then by him letting Victoria do that and her sowing all the seeds against him on her side, it's allowed someone like Bailey to have this viewpoint on what the structure is.
[00:37:17] And to not be what probably should be, which is either someone on Victoria's side who's okay with Anthony or more be in the middle between the two herself or feel like an extra person in the house, I guess, is sort of where Bailey was set up more earlier on of like, Anthony's allowed Victoria to have way more people that he's just not checking it on.
[00:37:47] And because of the, like, telling the girls they need to be careful about Anthony, it's made that people like Bailey are going to be much harder for Anthony ever to get on his side.
[00:38:01] Which is what he discovered here, which is so funny.
[00:38:04] And the weird thing that I can't figure out is like, it does feel like Victoria wants to go to the end with Anthony.
[00:38:10] So I would be so happy if she was doing all of this purposefully to get a leg up to then win the game.
[00:38:17] But it doesn't feel like that. It feels like...
[00:38:22] I have no clue what she's doing, honestly. I don't understand her goal at the end.
[00:38:28] I don't understand why she wants to go to the end with Anthony.
[00:38:31] At this point, she's got the numbers. She doesn't need Anthony.
[00:38:34] I don't think I believe her in the diary room.
[00:38:35] She's expressed on the feeds before, or on the drops before that like she...
[00:38:43] I think early in the season she was like, well, if I do one thing, if I target the women,
[00:38:48] I'm going to be hated by the audience for targeting women.
[00:38:51] And if I target Anthony, I'm going to be hated by the alumni.
[00:38:54] And so she felt like she was in between a rock and a hard place in terms of who would be mad at her for making a move.
[00:39:00] What she thinks the alumni would respect a win though? Would be like...
[00:39:03] Regardless of... I don't think she perceives it that way.
[00:39:06] And we know based on how she plays the game, she will just lie to you up until the very moment when she will make the decision to show you which one was actually the truth.
[00:39:19] And I think she's lying to us when she says she wants to go to the end with Anthony.
[00:39:22] Mary, here's what I'll say, right? Okay, let's say you and Taryn are on the next season a big brother U.S., okay?
[00:39:28] I think all of us...
[00:39:29] Okay, let's just play it out.
[00:39:31] The two... We will all be on the outside looking at me like, yep, these two are going to run things.
[00:39:37] We bet on them. They're going to work together.
[00:39:39] And then we hear Taryn talking to Tabitha in the bathroom and he's like, I think you should put up Mary.
[00:39:45] And everyone's like, Mary? He said Mary. Let's sharpen the pitchforks.
[00:39:49] Let's wait for him when he gets outside.
[00:39:51] He ruined a good thing because the reality is I'm 100% with you.
[00:39:54] I feel like ultimately if Taryn cuts you, you cut Taryn and you go on to win the game.
[00:39:59] 100% should have done that.
[00:40:01] If one of you turns too soon, the other one goes like two weeks later, then everyone's like, you had a built-in alliance right there.
[00:40:08] We've been through this game together. We have each other's back.
[00:40:12] That's when we sursy shame you through the city.
[00:40:14] Yeah, I want to say right here right now on the record, I would never cut Taryn ever.
[00:40:21] Even I winning big brother is not enough to face that smoke on the outside.
[00:40:28] Taryn has so many fans.
[00:40:30] You should say you're willing to cut me publicly.
[00:40:32] And then after the podcast ends, be like, obviously we're just saying that so we can trick people with young stuff.
[00:40:38] No, I don't need the Taryn stands to come after me.
[00:40:43] Don't need that.
[00:40:45] Not enough smoke in the world. That is a lot.
[00:40:46] But I mean, that's the thing is like I 100% see it that way as well where it was very clear from week one that spicy was looking at the game that way.
[00:40:55] Where I don't want to piss up the fans. I don't want to piss off the alum.
[00:40:58] The reality is you're going to piss some people off no matter how you play this game.
[00:41:03] Like you're not going to play a game that's going to work any other way.
[00:41:06] But what's funny is she keeps repeating this.
[00:41:08] She keeps repeating the Anthony's my real final two and I'm rocking with Dougie to the end.
[00:41:13] And the question is if you are, why are you making it so that they will?
[00:41:18] Because I mean, it's like self preservation because you can have a final two and then still set yourself up where they will always be targeted before you.
[00:41:26] In case people decide, all right, the vets need to go.
[00:41:29] You want to be second seed, not first seed.
[00:41:32] So I completely get that.
[00:41:34] But then some of these more intense conversations they have.
[00:41:38] I just don't understand how she expects them to react any other way.
[00:41:43] Because again, ultimately, Spicey's game is incredibly messy always.
[00:41:49] So if you're an ally of Spicey's, you've basically agreed to give her the keys to the car, but she's going to take how the shortcut she's going to drift.
[00:41:58] She's not she's going to ignore a speed bumper to throw caution at the wind when you're in the car with with the spicy.
[00:42:04] Yeah. I mean, I would say if if her goal actually was to get to the final two with Anthony Douglas, if that is actual, if she's telling the truth, and that's actually her goal, I think she's playing an awful game.
[00:42:17] Yeah. This is the worst possible way to get there.
[00:42:21] So like it's like, oh yeah, Anthony, I'll get you to the end.
[00:42:24] I'm going to make everyone in the game mad at me and also you mad at me in the process for no reason and make it really difficult to get there.
[00:42:32] To me, it feels like she's setting it up where someone else is going to take him out.
[00:42:37] She's not going to say, oh man, you know, I've been saying that he's my number one the whole time and he just went out.
[00:42:42] I didn't do any of it.
[00:42:43] I was with him the whole way through and I think that's really the narrative she might be painting here where there's plausible deniability of no matter what chaos went down.
[00:42:51] I just like being messy, but I was always riding with taking no matter what.
[00:42:54] She's hoping there's enough of a lack of live feeds that she can get away with.
[00:42:58] Yeah.
[00:42:59] Well, do you know you're the star? You're one of the stars of the show with just two returnies.
[00:43:03] So they're going to give us a lot of you.
[00:43:05] Yeah.
[00:43:07] Well, we'll see.
[00:43:09] I mean, the HOH is is crucial, but it's twist.
[00:43:13] There's going to be another eviction on Sunday.
[00:43:17] Is this the first juror?
[00:43:20] I believe so.
[00:43:22] I mean things are about nine.
[00:43:24] Final nine.
[00:43:26] Yeah.
[00:43:27] Movie massacre.
[00:43:29] Yeah.
[00:43:31] What kind of twist do you think this is going to be?
[00:43:34] Because BB Ken has loved doing these random eviction twists lately.
[00:43:39] What do you foresee this being?
[00:43:41] I'm hoping it's secretly not one thing.
[00:43:43] I watch Love Island quite a bit.
[00:43:46] Love Island UK specifically.
[00:43:48] They have a movie night, which they have every season.
[00:43:50] And that involves the Islanders watching clips from throughout the edit of the season that they've not seen of each other saying stuff.
[00:43:59] I doubt it's going to be that, but then why call it a movie massacre?
[00:44:02] Why?
[00:44:04] It's a carpet theme.
[00:44:06] That's why what it is.
[00:44:08] Hollywood.
[00:44:10] Don't show them any movie.
[00:44:12] Don't show them any clips.
[00:44:14] That'll make things incredibly messy.
[00:44:16] Yeah.
[00:44:17] So, if we had done a form of a safety chain, I would say, like that's a given.
[00:44:22] We literally just did it like last week.
[00:44:25] It was like very recently.
[00:44:27] Be very wild to do another safety chain.
[00:44:29] So, I really have no idea, but it will end in an eviction.
[00:44:36] Right.
[00:44:38] So, theoretically, we would be looking at an HOH, a veto, a vote if we were doing anything like normal.
[00:44:47] So, that makes me feel like we're probably not doing something normal.
[00:44:52] Otherwise, they just call it a fast forward.
[00:44:55] It would be probably something a little different.
[00:44:58] So then it's like, are we doing an HOH at all?
[00:45:03] Is it just going to be an entirely new format for the week where they've determined somebody to be evicted based on something entirely different?
[00:45:11] I don't know.
[00:45:13] And it's a special time of 8 p.m., so they're moving it up an hour.
[00:45:15] But is it two hours or is just the one hour still?
[00:45:19] I think it's just the one hour still.
[00:45:21] We're a choice to then move it up one.
[00:45:23] That's probably beyond their scope.
[00:45:26] That's probably network stuff.
[00:45:28] But yeah, I mean, who knows?
[00:45:33] It feels like we're going to get it where it's going to be, because if I remember correctly with the fatal feast last season,
[00:45:41] I'm sure I got the right two people here to correct me if I don't remember it right.
[00:45:45] There was the chain and then there was one comp for the people that were in the bottom and the winner of that survives.
[00:45:52] The other two became the gnomes and then one of them got voted off, right?
[00:45:55] Final three. Yeah.
[00:45:57] So I don't think it's going to be a classic.
[00:46:00] There's an HOH and a veto.
[00:46:02] I have to believe it's going to be one of those two things.
[00:46:05] Yeah, it's just like how do you do a week of eviction with only one comp?
[00:46:10] Did that get, is that already done?
[00:46:12] Or you know what I mean?
[00:46:14] Did they record that in the last two days?
[00:46:17] Is it like today and tomorrow or is it going to be like we get the drop tomorrow and there is an HOH?
[00:46:24] It could be tiered though.
[00:46:26] It could be like they do a competition, which the top half of people win and move on.
[00:46:33] It could even be a team competition or something, or it could just be the people with these best times are safe this week.
[00:46:39] And then they have another competition later in the week.
[00:46:42] That has the rest of the people in the bottom two people.
[00:46:45] Those are now the nominees or something like that.
[00:46:48] I mean, there's a way you could do it where it's just multiple competitions getting you to the nominees.
[00:46:53] Whittle down, whittle down, whittle down.
[00:46:55] And that there's no HOH or veto technically.
[00:46:58] They might, I guess maybe have a veto on top of that.
[00:47:01] But if the idea is you had two chances to save yourself already in these two competitions or however many there are.
[00:47:05] I could see that where the massacre is just multiple competitions slowly narrowing down who's available to be eliminated.
[00:47:13] It's not very spooky, but.
[00:47:18] It is interesting though because we've kind of sped up got another earlier eviction here.
[00:47:26] Red as the jury is about to start.
[00:47:29] Historically, does this mean anything?
[00:47:31] Again, I'm horrible with dates y'all.
[00:47:32] I've watched all these seasons just like you.
[00:47:35] I do not remember any connections with prior season.
[00:47:38] So, Taryn, what I'm trying to ask you, I guess is this early enough where there's a buyback that could be in place somewhere?
[00:47:45] Or are we right on schedule?
[00:47:47] Where are we at?
[00:47:49] Because we think another eviction happens on Wednesday as well.
[00:47:51] I think yeah, I think we needed to speed up in terms of getting people out.
[00:47:56] But then we did start with fewer people.
[00:47:59] Right.
[00:48:00] So, maybe not.
[00:48:03] Yeah.
[00:48:05] I mean, last season we started with what?
[00:48:07] 16?
[00:48:09] We lost three through early departures.
[00:48:12] So.
[00:48:14] I don't know.
[00:48:16] It's another one of those.
[00:48:18] It was just like the executive veto where it's just like we can speculate all we want.
[00:48:21] Who knows?
[00:48:23] They gave us zero information about it.
[00:48:25] So there's not much we can really say with any real confidence.
[00:48:28] It's hard to even analyze strategically what might happen because it's entirely dependent on what the twist is.
[00:48:37] If we knew what it was, we could maybe say, oh, well, that's how this might impact the current dynamic.
[00:48:43] But we don't know about this.
[00:48:46] So that's kind of where we're at with that.
[00:48:51] However, I will say that podcast schedule-wise,
[00:48:55] the plan is to essentially move the Friday podcast to Sunday night.
[00:49:02] So we will be doing a Sunday night recap, no Friday podcast,
[00:49:06] because A, I think there's a decent chance we're not getting drops at all.
[00:49:11] Right.
[00:49:13] Given that they filmed this eviction last night and whatever they're doing for Sunday,
[00:49:18] they're probably filming it at some point somewhere
[00:49:21] and I don't even know if they'll be a regular H O H or anything.
[00:49:23] And B, even if we do get drops and we talk about them on Friday,
[00:49:30] if we did another one on Sunday, the podcast would basically be a rehash of Friday's podcast plus whoever got evicted.
[00:49:37] So it's like there's not enough content to spread it out that much.
[00:49:42] So I think the current plan, Sunday recap is the plan, no Friday podcast.
[00:49:48] But I will have an interview with Matt tomorrow.
[00:49:54] I'll be talking to Matt.
[00:49:56] How do we feel about Matt?
[00:49:58] We said, Puyas, you said he didn't really give you much.
[00:50:00] I kind of am inclined to agree here.
[00:50:03] Even his campaigns were just dreadfully boring.
[00:50:06] So it was not much there.
[00:50:09] But he did get some MyLoveViews in there.
[00:50:12] And I got to say, there was a distinct lack of this from Arissa.
[00:50:21] Oh, I love it.
[00:50:24] I want more.
[00:50:27] I want more.
[00:50:29] I want Arissa to love love, you know?
[00:50:32] Is that what you want, Teran?
[00:50:34] Is that really what you want?
[00:50:36] You want love love like this?
[00:50:38] I want Arissa to ask these questions so I don't have to.
[00:50:41] As the great poet Arissa once said, you can and you will, Teran.
[00:50:45] Ask him tomorrow.
[00:50:47] The way to ask it is so Matt, clearly you were in a showman's.
[00:50:52] We know this because that was all you did and all we saw and we saw nothing else.
[00:50:56] So how did it ruin your game?
[00:50:58] Elaborate it.
[00:51:00] Matt, how does it feel to be the current top Matt of Big Brother?
[00:51:07] Yeah, I did see tweets about this of like he's going to come out of the house,
[00:51:13] search his name and Big Brother and it's all going to be about BB-25s Matt
[00:51:17] because of this week.
[00:51:19] So he's going to be a ton of people being like, screw that guy.
[00:51:22] He's the worst.
[00:51:24] Yeah.
[00:51:26] This human garbage and he's like, what did I do?
[00:51:28] I literally didn't do anything in the game at all.
[00:51:30] And we're like, yeah, this is.
[00:51:31] The winner of BB-25 also is denouncing me.
[00:51:36] Like what's happening?
[00:51:39] What is the cast of BB-25 not like me?
[00:51:42] What did I do to them?
[00:51:45] Oh boy.
[00:51:47] Yeah, I don't know.
[00:51:49] My whole again, my whole thing with Matt was that he was in a
[00:51:54] shomantic pair where the his counterpart, Lexus had the way more intriguing game,
[00:52:02] way more intriguing allegiances, allies work cut out for her.
[00:52:06] I felt like Matt was just kind of a number there for me.
[00:52:09] Like in any way you slice the pie, just nothing was impacting me.
[00:52:13] Yeah.
[00:52:15] I mean, can we talk about the like Paul-esque goodbye message that Vanessa,
[00:52:19] that spicy V left for him?
[00:52:22] Let's because did I miss this?
[00:52:25] Yeah.
[00:52:27] I mean, she very much did the like, oh, I really wanted to see what happened.
[00:52:31] It's just like it happened this way and then like tried to throw like Anthony and Lexus under the bus.
[00:52:37] Like, you know, Anthony and Lexus are in an alliance with me.
[00:52:40] And just like, you know, for me, I was like, if this is a preview for her jury goodbye messages,
[00:52:47] every time she betrays someone like, oh, uh-oh.
[00:52:52] Yeah, not good.
[00:52:53] No, not good.
[00:52:55] Yeah, I was in general, I just want to see more people owning the goodbye messages.
[00:53:01] Just being like, yep.
[00:53:03] Sorry, had to get rid of you.
[00:53:05] Catch on the foot, but he flopped.
[00:53:08] Hey, hey, hey, that's goose.
[00:53:11] We don't even do goose impression.
[00:53:14] But like even like Anthony this time being like, oh, you were so we're boys were so tight.
[00:53:21] See on the outside and it's like, who cares?
[00:53:24] Can I speak on this because I haven't gotten a chance to and I don't know what your takes are on this.
[00:53:29] I'm someone who I recognize that we can't cuss all the time because too much because, you know,
[00:53:36] might be around at the presence of, you know, children or people who don't cuss but also professional setting.
[00:53:41] You can cuss.
[00:53:42] I understand all that.
[00:53:44] I find it infinitely worse to try and say a cuss word in a PG way than at all.
[00:53:51] Like I've done, I talk about 90 day and when we have to talk about people having sex there,
[00:53:56] I find myself having to be like, let me not say that because you don't know who's listening.
[00:54:00] And then I'm like, oh, this is worse.
[00:54:02] This sounds worse.
[00:54:04] And using flip, I hate it.
[00:54:06] I hate it so much.
[00:54:08] You don't like talking about boinking?
[00:54:09] No, no.
[00:54:11] I'm not going to the Sheldon Big Bang Theory coitus route either.
[00:54:14] That's not happening for me.
[00:54:16] Yeah, that's worse.
[00:54:18] I'm telling you it's worse.
[00:54:20] I think sometimes I think it's it's funnier when it's worth like I wouldn't talking about the dating shows.
[00:54:25] I like to say banging because it just sounds so much worse than anything else you could have said.
[00:54:29] Maybe just try it out once, you know, try it out on a 90 day podcast be like, all right.
[00:54:36] So last night they flip.
[00:54:39] They flip.
[00:54:41] No, no, no.
[00:54:43] No, no.
[00:54:45] The ones that I don't like is like a flip and flipped.
[00:54:48] All right.
[00:54:50] If you're if you're someone who says like.
[00:54:52] Mother Trucker like that's kind of funny.
[00:54:55] I think that's OK.
[00:54:57] I think that's funny.
[00:54:59] Mother Trucker is on the right side of that line for you.
[00:55:02] To me, that's funny.
[00:55:03] And this is what Goose does.
[00:55:05] If you're cursing when you're angry.
[00:55:07] Yeah, that's when I don't like it.
[00:55:10] I don't like it when you're like saying flip when it's like you're angry.
[00:55:14] It's like then just say a different word that's not a cuss word or just be like, you know,
[00:55:18] you don't want to.
[00:55:20] You don't need to do it, but it like it makes it.
[00:55:23] It's like you took a thing and I'm like now you just made it weird.
[00:55:25] So I don't like this.
[00:55:27] Like if you're like if you're just not someone who curses use filler words.
[00:55:30] There are some that are there.
[00:55:31] I just don't like flip that one.
[00:55:33] For example, and I'm going to use one real quick and I apologize
[00:55:36] to anyone that doesn't want to hear a cuss word.
[00:55:38] But you know, when someone says they think their shit doesn't stink.
[00:55:40] OK, but like when you're on a podcast or like someone's like trying to give you
[00:55:45] the PG for like, yeah, it's like he thinks his poop doesn't smell.
[00:55:48] No, no.
[00:55:50] It is not the same.
[00:55:52] Why did you have to censor stink?
[00:55:54] Because his poop doesn't stink doesn't have the I don't know.
[00:55:57] This is what I mean that you overthink it and then it's not.
[00:55:59] It doesn't hit either way.
[00:56:01] Yeah, I grew up never cursing like that was not a thing we did.
[00:56:05] And we did say a lot of like different words, but like it wasn't it wasn't
[00:56:11] like substitutes for those words.
[00:56:13] It was just different.
[00:56:15] We just didn't use just didn't use curse words.
[00:56:17] The thing about curse words is that like it's not really about the word itself.
[00:56:22] Right. Like it's more about like why you're saying it.
[00:56:25] So if you were substitute the word for another word.
[00:56:28] Does it really change anything?
[00:56:30] Like you're still making the utterance.
[00:56:33] You know what I mean?
[00:56:35] You're saying it without saying it.
[00:56:37] Like I would rather someone say what the heck or what the hell then saying what the flip.
[00:56:41] That just sounds weird to me.
[00:56:43] Okay, hold on.
[00:56:45] But what if what if you went what the f***?
[00:56:47] That's better.
[00:56:49] Honestly, if everyone had a censor buzzer in their pocket and would use them
[00:56:54] in moments like that instead of cussing, I would appreciate that way more.
[00:56:57] Just bleep the word flip and everything would be all right.
[00:57:00] Listen, I like it.
[00:57:04] I like Goose's flips.
[00:57:06] They're funny to me.
[00:57:08] Yeah.
[00:57:10] It sounds like they are to you what mother trucker is to Mary.
[00:57:13] That's the one that you're very okay with.
[00:57:15] Because here's the thing.
[00:57:17] I'm just like what are we doing here?
[00:57:19] But the way he says flip is very unique.
[00:57:24] Like unique.
[00:57:25] Yes.
[00:57:27] I've never in my life heard somebody say flip in the tone and frequency that he does.
[00:57:33] Never been flipped like that before.
[00:57:35] Yeah.
[00:57:37] It doesn't work for me.
[00:57:39] No, like when he said horse radish, that was funny.
[00:57:42] I liked that one.
[00:57:44] You like the tired cliche one.
[00:57:46] Yeah.
[00:57:48] Cliche.
[00:57:50] I've never heard anyone say horse radish.
[00:57:52] No, I hadn't.
[00:57:53] I just liked it.
[00:57:55] I think that that's funny.
[00:57:57] Like that's what I'm saying.
[00:57:59] Using a completely different word is funny, but it's the fact that like.
[00:58:02] It's yeah, it's trying.
[00:58:04] It's trying to change the effort to a different F word that doesn't work for me.
[00:58:08] I think the thing too for me is that it like it very much fits within Goose's personality.
[00:58:14] Yeah.
[00:58:16] This isn't Goose trying to censor himself or trying to like be something or someone he's not.
[00:58:21] Right.
[00:58:23] He's just like he's he's a guy that says flip.
[00:58:26] He's a guy that on today's drop, Todd asked him to tell him a story and and he talked about like how he loves telling stories and he loves writing stories and he's written a bunch of stories and he's like so excited to tell Todd a story and he's like I'm going to put us in it.
[00:58:43] And so the story is about Goose and Todd and all their friends and and it's a horror story.
[00:58:49] And it's the it's like there's a big there's a big creature and he starts telling the story.
[00:58:55] And I'm telling you it was not 60 seconds before Todd fully fell asleep and started loudly snoring like it was straight out of a comic.
[00:59:07] Like it was he was just loudly snoring and Goose is in the middle of the story and then Goose screamed and he was running and.
[00:59:15] And and he was.
[00:59:16] And so then he was so he was so scared.
[00:59:20] Are you are you sleeping?
[00:59:23] Oh, it's Todd.
[00:59:25] You fell asleep.
[00:59:26] That's so funny.
[00:59:27] I was like, oh, yeah.
[00:59:29] Sorry about that.
[00:59:31] Yeah. No, I'm listening.
[00:59:32] And then he goes on and he finishes the story.
[00:59:35] Oh my God.
[00:59:37] That's just who flipping Goose is.
[00:59:40] You know what I mean?
[00:59:41] I would have gotten up and left.
[00:59:43] There's nothing more in there as Goose or as Todd.
[00:59:47] Okay.
[00:59:49] I mean, I will say if I fell asleep through your story and you woke me up, I might be too embarrassed to stick around for the rest of the story.
[00:59:56] Like one of us fell asleep in the middle of this podcast.
[01:00:01] I feel like we'd mercy remove them from the video right wouldn't leave them.
[01:00:06] Oh no, we would.
[01:00:07] We would leave it live until you woke up.
[01:00:09] That is mean.
[01:00:12] I mean, it ain't going to be me.
[01:00:14] I'm caffeinated like all the time.
[01:00:16] So my life's fine.
[01:00:18] It's like I've never even come close to feel like I've been tired during a podcast.
[01:00:22] I've never felt like I might fall asleep.
[01:00:24] But I have like, I mean many times like in school, even work meetings, there are times where I'm like, I'm doing the long blanks and I'm like, whoa, you got to pull it together.
[01:00:34] Have you ever asked somebody, hey, can you tell me a story and then within 60 seconds fall asleep and start snoring?
[01:00:44] When more children right?
[01:00:46] Like a bedtime story.
[01:00:48] Maybe that's what it was.
[01:00:50] But it was like full brightness daylight.
[01:00:52] And they were in the middle of a conversation where Todd was trying to get to know Goose.
[01:00:57] Oh my gosh.
[01:00:59] That would be a lot.
[01:01:01] Oh boy.
[01:01:03] Anyway, that's what we've got to talk about tonight for Big Brother Canada 12.
[01:01:12] As I said, I'll have an interview with Matt tomorrow.
[01:01:16] We'll be back Sunday night.
[01:01:18] I'll be live on Twitch watching the episode and then back here to talk about what happens on movie massacre Sunday night, I guess.
[01:01:29] So we'll see what goes down there.
[01:01:32] And we'll just keep it rolling.
[01:01:36] We'll keep it moving.
[01:01:38] Mary, what do you got anything going on?
[01:01:40] I'm not too much.
[01:01:43] I'm doing this.
[01:01:45] It's fun.
[01:01:47] It's a good time and that's pretty much it.
[01:01:49] I'm chilling waiting for the summer.
[01:01:52] More shows and podcasts will be just around the corner.
[01:01:56] So right now we can just stay in our happy little Big Brother Canada bubble.
[01:01:59] I don't know if it's going to be happy, but certainly a little bubble.
[01:02:05] Puyah, what do you got going on in your bubble?
[01:02:07] Well, PP Taren, I...
[01:02:11] PP Puyah is way better, dude.
[01:02:16] But it wasn't the first.
[01:02:18] It will never be the first.
[01:02:20] I was sick for like an entire week.
[01:02:23] So I've been kind of MIA, but I'm back on the mend.
[01:02:26] Everything's good now.
[01:02:28] So I'll be back talking 90 days this week.
[01:02:30] We were doubling up on the mass singer podcast because I couldn't record last week.
[01:02:34] So we got that coming your way as well.
[01:02:36] And that's about everything for now.
[01:02:39] Maybe some stuff coming later into the month of April.
[01:02:42] Stay tuned for those.
[01:02:44] And of course you can always find me on twitch.tv.
[01:02:46] That's where I am when I'm not podcasting.
[01:02:48] Tinkle Taren would have been better.
[01:02:50] That's what you would call it.
[01:02:52] You have to use the alliteration.
[01:02:53] You know, alliteration.
[01:02:55] I didn't have it on the fly.
[01:02:57] What's Mary's?
[01:02:59] I'm thinking about it now.
[01:03:01] We don't need this.
[01:03:03] All right.
[01:03:05] I'm going to against my better judgment, look up something.
[01:03:07] Looking at the source.
[01:03:09] Yeah.
[01:03:11] There's nothing that could possibly come out of this.
[01:03:14] That's good.
[01:03:17] Nick charate.
[01:03:19] Mary what nobody even knows what that would be.
[01:03:21] P synonyms.
[01:03:23] There's two mixture eight and Tinkle ironically an M and the other
[01:03:27] one mixed charate.
[01:03:29] Yeah.
[01:03:31] I don't know how you pronounce it.
[01:03:33] I feel like at that point you just go moist and go home, you know,
[01:03:36] it's like you want to be moist Mary moist Mary.
[01:03:39] That's worse.
[01:03:41] Don't be.
[01:03:43] You're talking a big game.
[01:03:44] What have we become?
[01:03:46] This is metaphor for spicy and Anthony.
[01:03:49] Is it?
[01:03:52] All right.
[01:03:54] Massacre the podcast.
[01:03:56] It's over.
[01:03:58] All right.
[01:04:00] That's what we have for you tonight.
[01:04:02] Thank you all so much for joining us and we will see all of
[01:04:06] you next time.
[01:04:08] Thank you.
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