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[00:02:24] How are you?
[00:02:44] I'm good. I'm good. Thank you.
[00:02:46] Matt, what went wrong?
[00:02:50] I think there's a little bit of multiple things that added to it.
[00:02:54] Definitely that executive power of Vito losing Vivek.
[00:02:59] He was definitely an ally for myself and Dougie.
[00:03:03] We should have known right there that maybe Spice wasn't riding with us as much as we thought so.
[00:03:08] Probably we can say a little bit with the showman's probably put a little bit of a target on my back
[00:03:16] or just the girls thought they were losing Lexus, which they probably were
[00:03:20] just because I feel like Lexus would have rode with me over them any day.
[00:03:26] But everything happens for a reason.
[00:03:28] I was blessed with the opportunity just to be a part of season 12.
[00:03:32] It was a great experience.
[00:03:34] So I have no regrets.
[00:03:36] The women even told you, I believe that they felt like with you gone, they'll get Lexus back.
[00:03:43] Do you think that's true? Is she going to go back to them?
[00:03:46] No, no way.
[00:03:48] Lexus is loyal.
[00:03:50] I know she was riding with myself, Tola and Dougie.
[00:03:53] And we thought Spice too, but we saw where Spice's cards lie.
[00:03:58] And it wasn't with us.
[00:04:00] That was evident after this week.
[00:04:03] I told Lexus that she doesn't need to get my revenge right away,
[00:04:07] especially finding out about the five person alliance in Spice's goodbye message
[00:04:12] with herself, Kayla, Avery, Lexus and Dougie.
[00:04:18] It's probably best for Lexus either to let Tola win this week.
[00:04:23] Obviously one of them needs to win, but if Tola can get that win and take out two of them
[00:04:29] or if Lexus just plays nice for one or two more weeks,
[00:04:33] there's a couple other people that are probably mutual agreements that they can send home.
[00:04:38] And then when it's time, I know Lexus can pull off the big comp win and then send one
[00:04:43] or multiple of those girls packing down the road.
[00:04:46] Did you discuss like future plans with Lexus and Anthony about like what they want to do moving forward?
[00:04:55] Like if Anthony were to win HOH this week, would he target Spicey Kayla Avery
[00:05:01] or would he maybe look at like Todd Bailey?
[00:05:05] Without myself there, are we talking about?
[00:05:08] Yeah.
[00:05:11] Let's be honest. I don't know if Dougie ever goes for any HOH or comp win.
[00:05:16] So he's the social game master so he might just leave it and let someone else take it.
[00:05:22] However, I know those girls have a good power grip on the house right now
[00:05:27] and they're not willing or they are willing to take any shot.
[00:05:30] So Dougie does have to be a little bit more careful than he might have had to be in the past weeks.
[00:05:38] I think Dougie, he has good relationships with everyone in the house.
[00:05:42] Probably Todd's the only one who doesn't truly trust him.
[00:05:46] Bailey, I feel like her and Dougie have some sort of relationship where she would flip and join Dougie
[00:05:55] and trust him if need be.
[00:05:57] So I think Dougie's just got to look at the big picture which I know he always does
[00:06:02] and make the best move for him that's going to take him the furthest.
[00:06:06] But like I said, it might be a little uncharacteristic for Dougie to go for that HOH win right now.
[00:06:13] So what did you make of Spice's goodbye message and this alliance?
[00:06:20] Obviously it was five members out of the seven of the directors so it was just excluding Goose and I.
[00:06:28] At the beginning, I'm not going to lie, I was taking back a little bit
[00:06:32] just because maybe if Lex and Dougie told me I could have used that to flip Bailey and Todd
[00:06:38] because Bailey probably sees herself in a tighter alliance with the girls
[00:06:42] but if she knows there's a final five without her, I think she would have been willing to make a deal
[00:06:46] especially as I can provide better physical or endurance gameplay for her in competitions compared to Goose.
[00:06:57] However, after being a little bit of time here, it is what it is.
[00:07:04] I truly believe that Dougie and Lexus both would have chosen me and taken me over any of the three other girls in that alliance
[00:07:11] and possibly anyone in the house.
[00:07:14] Maybe I'm naive but they gave me their word, they looked me in the eye
[00:07:19] and I truly believe that when they said they were riding with me.
[00:07:23] Yeah.
[00:07:25] I want to talk about last week a little bit because Goose was the HOH
[00:07:29] and after the veto he came to a realization about what SpicyV was doing to him trying to pit him against you
[00:07:41] and he told you and Lexus and Anthony as much
[00:07:46] but from our perspective at least we didn't really get to see a lot of follow up on that.
[00:07:51] Were there more conversations with Goose after that?
[00:07:54] I know you went straight to Spicy with that information.
[00:07:57] What happened after that?
[00:08:01] I think because I truly trusted Spice.
[00:08:04] She had proposed Final Four with myself, Dougie and Lexus
[00:08:09] and just because I know her relationship with Dougie on the outside of this house I truly trusted her.
[00:08:16] I probably shouldn't trust Goose a little bit more.
[00:08:19] I know he's a pretty genuine big hearted guy
[00:08:23] so he probably was telling the truth even if he had said some misinformation
[00:08:28] or spread some misinformation earlier on the week.
[00:08:31] I just feel since the day before there was a lot of misinformation spread about what I had said
[00:08:37] and a lot of the heat and spotlight was shining on me
[00:08:42] that I use this more so as to kind of put that spotlight elsewhere
[00:08:48] and for people to see that Goose was spreading misinformation about everyone.
[00:08:53] I really trusted Spice and I should have known that she'll use a gamer,
[00:08:57] she'll do whatever she needs to to win.
[00:08:59] This is her second time around the block
[00:09:02] and I don't doubt it that she probably did say some of those things now going back
[00:09:07] and especially knowing about the Five Person Alliance just because like I said
[00:09:12] and she even told me this in her campaign that she feels Dougie and Lexus would choose me over her
[00:09:17] when I was campaigning to her and she's probably not wrong.
[00:09:21] I really do think they would have chose me over anyone in the house.
[00:09:25] Yeah, basically Spice and them were convincing Goose that you were coming after him
[00:09:32] and then he was just trying to relay the conversations he had with you
[00:09:36] and they were kind of twisting that to try to use it as more sort of fuel to get you out.
[00:09:42] Yeah, it is what it is. I can't go back now so there's no, as Goose would say
[00:09:48] there's no point in crying over spilled milk.
[00:09:50] No flipping point, right?
[00:09:51] No flipping point. I should have known when he told the 8th flip
[00:09:55] in a row that he was telling the truth.
[00:09:57] But like I said, I just felt like I was in the hot seat the day before
[00:10:01] and I used it to kind of confirm that what was being said wasn't 100% true
[00:10:06] and there's definitely misinformation out there.
[00:10:09] For me, I'm a very upfront loyal and honest guy.
[00:10:14] When I give my word, I mean it and my word is bond.
[00:10:18] Sometimes it can be a fault where I assume people are going to reciprocate that.
[00:10:24] I usually kind of give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they do be dirty.
[00:10:28] It just took me a little bit too long to figure that out
[00:10:32] and now I'm sitting here with you having this conversation.
[00:10:35] But it is what it is. I can hold my head high.
[00:10:38] I stayed true to my character. I was loyal and honest.
[00:10:42] And at the end of the day, I feel like I represented myself, my family and friends well
[00:10:47] and I have no regrets.
[00:10:49] Hmm.
[00:10:50] Talk to me about Lexis. What's going on there?
[00:10:54] What you want to know about Lexis.
[00:10:56] I heard a lot of I heard a lot of loves being thrown out last night on the episode.
[00:11:02] On the episode, I feel like I told Dougie I love him more than Lex, but
[00:11:08] I don't know if I even said I love you to Lex.
[00:11:11] I think I might have told her I have real love for you.
[00:11:14] It was definitely a hard situation just because I told so many people in the house
[00:11:18] and I truly do. I love them. I got them.
[00:11:21] Obviously when I say that to Lexis means a little bit something different.
[00:11:26] I'm hoping that we can build off the romantic relationship that was blossoming in the house.
[00:11:34] I think she would be open to it as well, but right now she needs to focus on the game
[00:11:38] and do whatever it takes to win.
[00:11:40] I think regardless, her and I will have a lifelong relationship,
[00:11:44] whether that's a friendship or something romantic.
[00:11:48] Tell me what your final words to the house?
[00:11:53] What was the intent behind that?
[00:11:56] Are we talking about when I was leaving from the stairs or
[00:11:59] when I was...
[00:12:03] So I said, talk is cheap.
[00:12:05] Inside and out of this house, talk is cheap.
[00:12:08] Don't talk about it. Be about it.
[00:12:11] All my clients know that's kind of my motto for my brother and I's business,
[00:12:16] our personal training and active rehab business.
[00:12:19] Lots of people can say they're going to do something,
[00:12:22] but action speak louder than words.
[00:12:24] So I always tell my clients and I live by this motto,
[00:12:27] don't talk about it, be about it.
[00:12:29] And I felt like it was a perfect message just because there's a lot of people
[00:12:33] saying they were going to do things this week,
[00:12:35] saying that I was safe or saying they had me and not to worry,
[00:12:39] but action speak louder than words,
[00:12:43] loyalty is seen, not said.
[00:12:46] All right. Well, thank you so much, Matt.
[00:12:49] You're welcome. Pleasure talking to you.
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