BB28 Why ___ Lost Week 2

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[00:00:30] And this is BB28 Why Blank Lost Week 2. This is BB28 Why Blank Lost Week 2. Welcome back to Why Blank Lost for the second eviction of Big Brother 28. I'm David Bloomberg and with me is my co-host, a man who would never be described as a beta or submissive. Chappelle!

[00:00:57] I'm sure somebody thinks of me as a beta or submissive, but I'd have to reject that. Maybe, I don't know. I'd call myself an alpha male, not in the Big Brother sense. So I don't really know where I would fall. Yeah, and in the Big Brother house when it comes to those things. I think Rome would be okay with me, though. Yeah, yeah, I think so. You're, you know, kind of a mastermind behind the scenes and that's what he, you know, that's what he was looking for, those types of people.

[00:01:23] And he needed more of them, clearly. But we'll get to that in a minute because it has been quite the second week of Big Brother here. But of the surprises that we saw, Rome leaving early, not one of them. In our preview podcast, I gave Rome a 1 out of 10 for how I thought he'd do in following my rules. And I believe you were somewhere in that ballpark as well.

[00:01:51] Yeah, if I didn't give him a 1, maybe 2 at the highest, but I could see through this man. I could tell this was someone who was not very familiar with the game. Someone who had their preconceived notion about how the game was going to go, what they were going to do, and how it really didn't align with, you know, just like classical Big Brother strategy. And so I really didn't think he was going to make it too far. I think both of us knew that a competition here and there could definitely save him.

[00:02:18] And that could have actually happened this week. But overall, he didn't seem like a rule follower to me. And so I'm not shocked to see him go out right here. Yeah. So the question we will answer today is how did he live down to that lowest possible rating when it came to my rules? And were there other factors at play? So we'll find out the way we always do by evaluating how he played compared to a set of guiding rules. I originally wrote way back in 2004 and have modified ever since.

[00:02:48] We'll analyze his actions using what we saw on TV, live feeds, interviews and other information. And of course, the most recent published version, which is a few years old. It's I noticed it still says you're playing for half a million dollars. I'm like, oh, got to update that. It is at RobHasWebsite.com slash Big Brother rules. But before we get to that, we always have some other things to discuss about the week in general.

[00:03:12] One that I want to talk about today is Drew and Barrett versus Angela's paranoia. Because for a little while now, we've seen Angela believing that those two, especially Drew, are plotting to turn against the icons. And that paranoia is like extremely contagious. It has spread now to Dee, Devins, Haley. So far, Camus seems immune to it.

[00:03:42] But at least those three and who knows how much further it'll go. And every time Angela sees either of them talking to someone else, she is sure it's a big plot against her. And it's just like of all people. He should have learned. From her previous season that it doesn't work that way.

[00:04:04] I. I would presume she watched it back or at least heard after the fact that when she was absolutely certain people were against her, they were often actually on her side. But it's like she she just really can't help herself. She's in too deep. You know, she can't see the forest for the trees. She's in there and she's they're being told, hey, this is your alliance. We're all good. But because she's in so deep, she's like, but are you my alliance?

[00:04:31] Are we good? You know, she I think she trusts Dee and Devin so much because she feels like she knows them better. She saw them on TV. Right. So there's a level maybe parasocially or maybe it's just just because we watch them on TV shows that we have a better understanding for who they are. And so maybe she just naturally feels like that connection is stronger. Everybody also, if you don't, you know, if you take a step out of line, Angela might suspect you doing something nefarious behind her back. We saw this the first time she played, like you said.

[00:05:01] I don't really know if Angela has a good grasp on the things that happened the first time she played, because I've just seen her make different comments on the feeds and stuff about, you know, I think that one of the controversial things she said this week was about Rabina getting voted out and saying, oh, I mean, being saved. It's like, oh, well, she was campaigning and they didn't want to, you know, she was campaigning about how she wanted to be the first Filipina to go far in the game.

[00:05:25] And Angela looked at that and said, well, it seemed like they did it. That was almost like a sympathy save when if you watch the show, you know, that T-Core and Kimo actually really flipped the house. Like it took a lot to keep Rabina. It wasn't just a sympathy save. But that minimalization of her move makes me think that maybe Angela hasn't done a lot of self-reflection on the game that she played. And she doesn't realize that the first time around she was I mean, that that low budget movie rant about crazy eyes.

[00:05:54] That was all Angela's paranoia. No one had done anything to her. She just laid in bed and spun herself into a frenzy. And so it's no shock to me that she's acting like this again. I was just hoping that she would have learned something from the first time. I mean, she indicated in pregame, she kind of gave conflicting signals. You know, she said she said, well, I'm going to try not to be as paranoid. But then another time she said, ah, who am I kidding? I'll probably revert to it. If you know that about yourself.

[00:06:22] And look at what's happening and try to stop it. You know, it's like they say that, you know, the first step is recognizing you have a problem. Angela, you have a problem. Yeah, it's a really good point. If you're if you're suspicious of somebody, you can address it and then maybe quell your suspicions. But it seems like instead of going to Drew and saying, here are the things I thought I saw you doing. Can you make me feel better about that? What is what's been going on? What's your point of view on that?

[00:06:50] Instead, she goes to D, who she trusts more and she vents about it. And, you know, she talks about it. She airs out her grievances. And then D, who I've decided as far as these survivor players go, the survivor game is just too fast. It is too fast, especially the new era. They're used to gaming constantly. You know, you got a day and a half before you got to get the next person out. You already need to be working on who's probably going to go next after that. And these people, they're just looking for any reason to start gaming again.

[00:07:19] So when Angela goes and says, we'll trust Drew, deactivates. And she said, oh, bet. Let's do it. Let's talk it out. How do we get them out? What do we do? What do we got to do? And so I do think that Angela paranoia is spreading. And I think the survivor players actually kind of welcome with a little bit with their their eagerness to game. Yeah, I mean, it makes a very difficult situation for Drew and Barrett. And you said it.

[00:07:40] And it's something I often mention relating to survivor is that you do almost have to figure that any time you as a player talk to other people, others are going to assume it's about strategy, no matter what it's actually about. We've we've heard that from some of the people who get voted out early on survivor. They're like, well, I was just I was just chatting with so and so. And all of a sudden I get lumped in with them. Well, yeah, because it's survivor. That's why.

[00:08:11] And, you know, Aubrey, Rob and Taryn talked about it in Aubrey's RHAP interview as well. Noting there are just so much there's so much more time to kill so many more conversations in Big Brother than in Survivor. And that whole time frame, like you said, is stretched out. If you're going to tribal council and back to back days, then every moment you have is precious. You're not going to waste it.

[00:08:37] So if you see a group talking, yeah, you should probably be worried. That makes sense. In Big Brother, the days are long. The nights are longer. You have to entertain yourself. Sometimes that means chatting with a woman you want to get to know better. Sometimes it means sticking a piece of cucumber on your forehead in the storage room to see whose will stick longer. This is the entertainment that they have.

[00:09:01] But Drew and Barrett need to realize what's going on and find a way to mitigate these situations so they don't get punished for Angela. It's pretty surprising, too, that it hasn't really gotten back to them that they are putting this target on their backs, you know, because because D and Angela aren't exactly being discreet about it. You know, I think they've pretty openly been talking about how they don't really trust the two of them.

[00:09:27] I think Devin's is doing a lot of work to kind of keep that at bay because he does trust Drew. But yeah, I mean, even he's made some comments about it. And yeah, but but you're right. It is interesting about how much they know, because Devin's did come in. We saw in live feeds. Devin did come in and warn them like, hey, just so you know, there's some people talking about this. I don't know that he specifically said your tight allies are talking about this.

[00:09:57] I think it was more generic than that. And then, of course, we saw the scene on Thursday. That the two of them seem to understand where they are in the tool shed. There's the trio, the trio and them. But we need to see them do something about it. Even though I have to admit, I'm not sure what they can do. You know, that's a good point, David. When they when they did their outline of how they viewed the house,

[00:10:24] it was, you know, the vets, then the corner and then them. I never looked at the house structure like that. I always looked at it like the vets and them. Then they brought in the corner as the last people. But apparently the and this is, you know, OG strategy, you know, so I'm not saying anything new. But when they are the last two people or the last person to walk into that room when they have the big alliance there, it did give them the idea that, OK, we're the last ones in. So we're the first ones out. We're at the bottom.

[00:10:53] But I never really thought about it like that because it just felt like Devin's was vouching for them so hard. And I think Barrett also was kind of in D's pocket for a while. But I think that moment, it feels like it kind of gave Barrett the ick. You know, he walked in and realized, oh, God, I might be at the bottom. And then since then, there's been like a rift between that group. And as you said, we saw them walking and talking and talking about how they were going to change their position and not be at the bottom. I never thought they were at the bottom. I think now they might be.

[00:11:23] But at first, I didn't think that that's where they were. That's where they stood. I mean, I think there are a few things happening there. First, for Barrett, he needs to realize that I don't think he will based on what he said. Yes, he was the last one brought into the tool shed, but they tried to wake him like three times. He wouldn't budge. That is not their fault. Now, has anyone told him that? I don't think so.

[00:11:49] I don't think he realizes that he was only brought in last out of happenstance and due to deep sleep. As far as the trio thing, I don't know if Drew caught this or not. But there was a conversation between Devin's and Drew where Devin's was this was on live feeds. Devin's was talking about we have the tool shed and then we have the crossovers and then we have our trio.

[00:12:20] Well, in Devin's mind, what he was talking about was the icons, but he said it out loud to Drew. And Drew said, oh, you mean you, me? And I don't remember who the third person was. And Devin's was like, yes, yes, of course, that's what I mean. But Drew's sharp enough. He may have picked up on Devin's slip there. It wasn't as bad as like, say, naming your alliance to someone who's not in your alliance, but it was darn close to it. Yeah.

[00:12:49] So that paranoia and stuff is only going to make things worse. And so I think, you know, Drew and Barrett really need something to shake the house up that they plan on changing their position, because if their current alliance, the tool shed keeps winning, then they're going to stay in the same spot. You know, they're not they're never going to be able to take a shot, because why would you take a shot at your own side when you have these people who are actively coming against y'all?

[00:13:13] So if anybody in that tool shed alliance does not name Drew or Barrett, when they're going to be stuck in that same position as they whittle down their their other numbers, the people that they could use to maybe shift the power in their in their favor. So whatever they have to do, they have to start winning power very quickly. Yeah. And that's the thing, because like they've demonstrated their loyalty. They they bring information. They bring good information.

[00:13:38] But every time, especially Drew brings that brings it to them, Angela and now D are like, oh, thank you. Thank you. And then they turn around and they're like, well, if they're telling us this, what are they talking to the other people about when it comes to us? And, you know, we saw Angela going further off the deep end, talking about how Drew was probably laughing at her in the diary room and so on.

[00:14:02] It it's truly nuts considering that she went through this once before and she should know she was wrong then. If you're a producer, David, are you in the diary room being like, Angela, what do you think about Drew? You know, are you really are you really going to poke that bear? Because I think that's I think somebody's rolling her up because it does feel like every time Drew does something, it's like it's getting right under her skin. And then she goes and rolls up D and then I roll up each other.

[00:14:31] But I wouldn't be shocked if the line of questioning isn't, you know, oh, how do you feel about Rick? How do you feel about D? And then that Drew, that Drew guy, huh? What do you what do you think about him? You know, I don't know if the tone shifts when they talk about him, but it definitely does feel like the air of not trusting him is just floating around. Like it's in the atmosphere in that house. Yeah. Yeah. Now, those two have, of course, formed their own named alliance and it is. The druglers.

[00:14:59] Hey, that's impressive. I cannot juggle. I've never tried it like because it just looks like something I wouldn't be able to do. But that was cool. I didn't I didn't expect you to have that one in you. I did a whole video juggling the whole time. So just about that topic. But it's been a while since I picked up beanbags there. So but I wasn't going to try with clubs or rings. I have those, too. But, yeah, doing a video.

[00:15:29] I've just been bonking the camera and myself probably. So but, you know. All they can do now, like you said, they could stay wary. They could look for signs that something is going to come at them. But like you said, there's no place for them to go now. And if it continues like this, I think there are going to be people looking back on the season and say, Drew and Bear did it to themselves.

[00:15:56] All of their possible people were picked off and they did nothing about it. Like we've seen in certain survivor seasons. And it's like, no, they didn't. I can already see myself getting into arguments with those people because it's like they didn't have an opportunity. There was at no point. Could they have realistically turned? If this continues. Now, we will see what happens. Obviously, I'm just forecasting the future based on past events.

[00:16:25] They will need some specific circumstances like. Either. The the icons turning on the tool shed and they can, you know, figure out which way they want to go there. Or, yeah, like you said, someone on the other side, Melody. Mallory, someone like that winning H.O.H.

[00:16:45] And at that point, they're going to have to make a decision and and flip because otherwise, I think that Angela is going to keep pushing and pushing. And eventually someone is going to cave in if they keep winning H.O.H. on that side. Yeah. Drew and Bear got to win, too. You know, that's the beauty of Big Brother is that you can be at the bottom. But if you win a challenge that could that can change your odds in the game, I could change where you stand in the pecking order.

[00:17:12] If they start winning, then people will come to them because they have power. You know, if let's say Drew wins the next H.O.H., if he's really uncomfortable in his spot. And I guess he didn't sound as uncomfortable as Barrett. So let's go with Barrett. If Barrett wins the next H.O.H., he's not comfortable in his spot. He sees their numbers on that side. OK, grab the betas and submissives that Rome thought he was going to pick it pick up and then do something about it. You win. You put put those people on the block and then make them campaign against each other.

[00:17:40] You know, this is how Big Brother works. But you have to be able to win. We we are gone are the days where you can just, you know, chill in the house and hope for the best. If you want to change your position, you have to win a competition. And even then, it's going to be tough for them because like. Lala believes she's in an alliance with two of the icons. Yeah, they don't care about that alliance, but she believes it.

[00:18:07] And. And. If let's say Barrett does win H.O.H., is he going to be able to get Lala to vote with him against them? No, I don't think so. I don't. Those two don't seem to have much of a relationship. You know, is is he going to be able to get probably the rest? Many of the rest, he probably could because they'll eventually see how it is. But you need all those numbers if he does. So, yeah, they need to.

[00:18:35] Like you said, they need to win something that's about their only option or hope that tool shed turns on the red court. I'm sorry. There's a war within the tool shed. Yeah, we'll see what happens, but they got to do something. Yeah. Yeah. So do you have anything else that you want to discuss before we move to our next semi regular segment? Yeah, I have a question.

[00:19:05] What's what's your opinion about BB Unlocked now that they are using it to hold vital information in the game hostage? So I know that you cover BB Unlocked. Full disclosure, I did not as of yet listen to the podcast from last night. Because I didn't have a chance last night as we're recording this. So so I don't know what your opinion is.

[00:19:28] I was saying on Blue Sky, I do find it interesting the way they're doing this, because someone else on Blue Sky and I can't remember who it was pointed out. They used to be holding live feed clips hostage from the live feeders. Now they're holding game clips hostage from the TV only viewers. I prefer this. I mean, maybe it's because I was watching Unlocked anyway. And so it's like, well, good.

[00:19:58] Put some interesting content in there. And I do think they have upped the game this season. I think it is more interesting, more fun. Certainly all of the mentions of RHAP last night didn't didn't hurt matters at all. And so.

[00:20:18] I do like what they have done to to make it a better show, a more interesting show to get more people to watch, because I think that news will spread. I think that's why ratings were up week one. And I'm sure ratings will be up again this week from compared to before, because truly unlocked before. I think most. Casuals ignored it. Certainly most like live feed viewers ignored it.

[00:20:47] And some actively boycotted it because it was felt that they were holding hostage. You know, some of that was live feed clips. Because I do think there's a general sense that it's gotten better. Yeah. And they've even given us a little bit more on the feeds to not so much that they're not still holding stuff hostage. But right. Them coming back from the from the the veto ceremony and letting us see the end of that. I don't remember Big Brother doing that before in the past.

[00:21:15] And then I think most recently after the the show went off, we got to see Angela put away her her costume, you know, for just 15 minutes. And then they, you know, so they're breadcrumbing us a little bit and say, OK, don't complain too much. Yeah, we're holding some stuff hostage. But we're giving you a little bit, too. So I don't know. I don't know if we thank Taylor Hale directly or if it's just, you know, maybe they're bringing in some, you know, newer viewers of the show,

[00:21:41] some more passionate fans of the show to really influence the things they're showing us because they are feeding the live feeders more than they normally do, especially last season when they had unlocked to keep all that stuff from us. At least they're giving us a little bit so that we don't feel completely starved out by the show. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:22:01] Of course, one bad change they made is with their switch over back to X instead of Blue Sky, where they were last season. You know, the posts that they're popping up are from X instead. So that's a bad thing that they did. But, you know, but overall, on the whole, I'd say it was generally a good change. Cool. Yeah, that was my question.

[00:22:32] Well, then it is time for another edition of Julie Chen Moonves' Wrong About Blank. In this case, we actually have Julie backtracking a little bit from slamming Devon's incorrectly last week. She told Dalton Ross, he won me over when he admitted to Rome's face that things were going to get ugly and then went the extra mile and exposed who Rome was willing to sacrifice and then won the veto fair and square.

[00:22:58] I'm not really sure what winning the veto had to do with anything in that list of things that he did. But OK, Julie, you do you. And then she continued. All this being said, he may be the living, breathing example of Big Brother's tagline, expect the unexpected. In Survivor, he was known as an agent of chaos. But here in BB, we just call that Tuesday. Again, not really sure how all those thoughts connect.

[00:23:28] Even as Julie begrudgingly sort of admitted that she was wrong about Devon's, she still in that last part tried to downplay him. You know, all week they were acting like, oh, this moment on TV is huge. We're going to make such a big deal out of it. And she's like, it's just a regular day. And she picked Tuesday of everything. Tuesday is probably the most boring day in the Big Brother house. It's not even Waffle Wednesday. Right. You know, Julie, don't fight it.

[00:23:58] You're a fan. And that's OK. That's OK. Sometimes we watch these shows and we come in and we are. I don't want to root for this person. But they start to win us over. I think I've seen a lot of that with the Angela haters. I'm not necessarily an Angela fan. I guess if you had to put me in the Venn diagram, I'm closer to the hater side for Angela. But, you know, I do have to give her her credit where, you know, for these first couple of weeks, she's been playing way better than I would have, you know, considered. And even though the paranoia thing is still happening, I think that's just her.

[00:24:27] I think for her, she's playing the best that she could possibly be playing. And so I have to give her credit where it's due. And I think Julie is begrudgingly starting to give Rick Devins some credit as well. So I'm glad the backtrack is happening. Yes. Yes. Now, I have a special bonus addition to the segment this week. Jerry O'Connell is wrong about blank because Jerry did an interview with Mike Bloom.

[00:24:53] And he said, I'm actually amazed that the newbie house guests are not going after the icons more. If I was in that household and I am a newbie, I would say we've got to get these people. We've got to get them out. And Mike tried to kind of help him along and point out that only D and Devins have been HOH. Like, hint, hint, the newbies saying something like that out loud wouldn't be very smart. Jerry brushed it aside and said, still, I'm amazed that there's more plotting against newbies

[00:25:21] than there is like, we got to get these people out of here. They're going to win this thing. It's just like, Jerry, come on, man. You're a fan. You're supposed to understand this. It would not be a great idea to talk about your future plans for going after the icons while the icons are in power. Yeah. You know, I think that that's probably something that I've seen in the fan base as well,

[00:25:46] where the fan of the show just instinctively says, OK, you bring back these returnees or these icons. You got to get them out because you can't let these people go far in the game. And so your your knee jerk reaction is how do I get them out? We saw that in the first week with Lala, you know, immediately being like Angela's got to go. I think we saw that with Jason as well. A couple of people where they just plant their flag and say, we're not going to beat these people. We have to take a stand.

[00:26:12] The problem is in Big Brother going against the vets rarely benefits you. It definitely benefits you to align with them to some extent. We've seen that. I mean, I think every example of working with returning players has always proven that, yeah, you're going to have the vocal people who say we're not doing this. But because of the way the show is structured, the way they bring people back and give them certain advantages, the fan votes as well.

[00:26:37] So it is more times than not beneficial to just get in bed with the with the people in power and they're going to get power eventually. And so you go with them and then you start to work with them, you know, cozy up to them a bit. And then when you get the chance, you get out of there. And so, I mean, look, look in the past. I mean, even last season, Zay, you know, he's going up against Rachel Riley. It's not that's not a wise thing to do. You know, don't get me wrong. Yeah.

[00:27:06] If I'm Zay, I'm probably thinking I don't want Rachel in the game long because she's a winner of Big Brother. She's not going to be great for me. But by putting yourself against her, the people who are naturally drawn to her are going to throw you under the bus at the first chance they get. And you see the same thing with these people. So you got people saying I'm going against the vets. But you also have people who immediately are like, because I know the vets, I want to work with them. We saw that last season with Morgan. She wanted to work with Rachel because she was a vet.

[00:27:32] So, you know, it's always a dangerous game to target those people who are coming back or these bigger names. I get the instinct to do it. But in practice, I don't know if it's ever the best strategy. Yeah. I mean, we said or at least I said in our preview podcast, I was like, what you should do is get rid of them right away. The problem is you can't do that for the reasons you mentioned and because production always protects the vets.

[00:28:00] Oh, only one of three people can be HOH. Oh, it's the it's the three icons. OK, so, you know, they're fine the first week. And then, you know, you've got we're giving away power. Yeah. You were vote. Oh, gee, like they're not going to win the first three. So it's like, come on. So, yeah, you don't really have a choice. And especially once, you know, it's one thing to say it hypothetically, like at the first week. Of course, they're going to the camera.

[00:28:30] We got to get rid of that. Well, that's hypothetical at that moment. But once, you know, oh. D one power of HOH. Devon's one HOH. OK. What are you going to do? You can't go around saying let's get rid of them. You can't do that no matter who the HOH is. So, come on, Jerry. Yeah, it's OK. I get the instinct. But at the same time, like what do you look like in this situation? There's nothing these people could have done yet.

[00:28:59] All they have to do is wait for their opening and they just haven't found it yet. Right. Now, I will say at least Jerry was right to talk about how he checks in with Taryn every morning to find out what happened on live feeds. And that was even before all of the Rob and Taryn and RHAP shout outs on Unlocked. So it was a it was a big week, you know, for for shout outs there. It was. I didn't like the diary room shout outs during the eviction night, but the ones from Unlocked, they were good for me. I appreciated those. Yes. Yes.

[00:29:27] Well, there was one that was good from D on eviction night. Yeah. Big shout out to Brandon Donovan. Yes. So. All right. Well, Rome came into Big Brother 28 with a plan to protect the betas and submissives. And you know what? He actually kind of tried to do that. So why didn't it work out for him? Was it that very plan that tanked his game? What other factors came into play?

[00:29:53] Like, say, a young woman named Lyric or his inability to keep his mouth closed? Let's dive into it all, because at RHAP, we know Big Brother and we know why Rome lost. Now, the first and most important rule is to scheme and plot. And one reason Rome came to the majority alliance's attention was because they thought he was doing a lot of this.

[00:30:16] But I have to tell you, as I look back over things, I really feel like the tool shed gave Rome a lot more credit for scheming and plotting than he actually deserved. He was just kind of hanging out with people. And yeah, he called himself the president at one point. But I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I think the only actual named alliance he had was Four Seasons, which wasn't even very real.

[00:30:44] And, you know, as a way to look at how much scheming he did, while he was making out with Lyric four days into the game, Rome even said, oh, it's too early to form alliances now. And then added, Mallory was trying to form a big alliance. It's too early. Now, just a week ago, you and I talked about Ashley realizing that not making alliances before day two was too late.

[00:31:10] And then when Rome realized Devons was coming after him, he commented in the diary room that he would go to war. But you need an army to go to war. And you didn't have one. This man did not play Big Brother. He came in the house and forgot to play Big Brother. He started to flirt and hang out with his friends. That's really what he was doing. Yeah, there were strategy talks happening, but that wasn't his main objective.

[00:31:39] You know, to me, it felt like when he was on the way out, he didn't have that killer instinct that made me feel like, OK, I need Rome to stay. You know, I definitely see me getting an exit press that he said, oh, I would have come after the vets. Sure, you would have. You know, everybody would have. Everybody would have, could have, should have did all this stuff. But while you were in the house, what were you doing? You know, we know you were booed up with Lyric. But for you to be there for two weeks and only be a part of basically one named alliance in this house where everybody's in a named alliance.

[00:32:10] You know, he was really resting on his social influence. And I don't even think that was active gameplay. I think that's just who he is. He was a likable guy. People were drawn to him. And the vets picked up that he had and the tool shed, I guess, as a whole, picked up that he had a lot of influence. And one of the people who really started to push that that narrative was Angela. And we know Angela is just naturally a paranoid person. So to see you as a social butterfly, she thought that you were at least scheming and plotting.

[00:32:40] And he was not. And if he was scheming and plotting, maybe he would have made it past this round. But it doesn't seem like that was one of his main objectives. Yeah. I mean, he he he seemed to have some connections, but the more he hung out with Lyric, the more those connections broke down because he was paying a lot more attention to Lyric than the game. And even as late as Wednesday.

[00:33:03] He spent most of the day that is supposed to be reserved for waffling just standing around with Lyric rather than trying to convince people to keep him. I think I saw him try half heartedly with with Haley, but that wasn't going anywhere, especially. I think I saw him try to play with Haley. You know, now. He could have campaigned all day. Would it have mattered? Probably not by that point. But it is surprising how sometimes people can pull it off. That's why it's called Waffle Wednesday.

[00:33:34] You actually need to try for that to happen. It was just he didn't to me. He didn't care about the game as much as some of the other people. Right. I think that people like Melody, they will go down swinging no matter what. But I think that people like Jason, you know, we saw him and how the the level of competition in that blockbuster between Jason and Rome. Jason was running. You know what I'm saying? The entire time running. It was not one second wasted.

[00:34:03] You know, I just don't think Rome had the desire to be in the house to where he would do anything to stay in there. He'll make these alliances. He'll break these promises. He'll say whatever he needs to say. And I think all of that goes in line with just the reason why he wasn't able to to scheme and plot the way he should have. He just wasn't motivated to do it the way he that I would like to see a Big Brother player do it. He should have been motivated to stay with Lyric. Come on, man. Well, well, he figured she'll get voted out before the jury anyway.

[00:34:32] And then she could just come home and he could be our big strong man. Apparently. God, when he was asked that, was that? I don't know. Say that. Yeah, there was. On TV. Why would he say that on TV? As a boyfriend, you have one answer to that. You always say, I want her to stay in there as long as she possibly can. Win it all. Yeah, bring home the money. You never say, oh, I want her to be voted out so she could be here with me. She's going to see that and be like, what the hell? What the hell?

[00:35:02] Yeah, I would you. I just thought it was a crazy thing to say. But again, that to me, that shows you who's locked in lyrics like, OK, you got to go so I can stay. I'm by you got to go. I'm trying to stay. But for him, he's like, what if we both live? You know, what if I get voted out and then you shortly follow after and then we get married and then it's like, hey, hey, bro, keep your eye on the prize. Yeah. Well, for him, the prize is lyric. So we'll see. And yeah, exactly. You know, she may not have the same opinion there. Well, we'll find out.

[00:35:31] But they seem to in that, you know, two weeks from now. But we'll talk about that more later. Now, even when it came to, you know, going back to his other relationships, even with Devons, when you think about it, all Rome had with him was an understanding of sorts, not an actual alliance, which made it that much easier for Devons to turn on him. But like Devons approached him and he gave him, you know, I don't remember the exact words,

[00:35:59] but it wasn't like, OK, yeah, let's form an alliance. We'll be the chess players, you know, whatever, because that's where that was mostly formed. It was like, yeah, OK, I got you. You got me. There's a reason naming alliances has a power. It makes no sense logically. Yeah. But it has a power to certain people. And it might have been a little more difficult for Devons to flip up. Maybe not. But it might have been more difficult.

[00:36:27] He told Mike Bloom the few days before the HOH, Devons and I were sitting or outside sitting alone. He's like, no one talks game with me. You're the you're one of the only guys in this house that talks to me like this. I trust you. I hope you trust me. You're one of my closest allies. And Rome said and I took that to heart. I really felt like he and I were having a good moment and I thought he was a good guy with the power of both of us. We could go really far in this game together.

[00:36:55] So in other words, Rome fell hook, line and sinker for Devons sob story about how nobody wanted to work with him when, in fact, he already had multiple alliances. Yeah, I think if Devons is telling you that, I think at that point, you said we're locked in me, you and Lyric, you know, do something, try to at least try. Try to give yourself some coverage, you know, and you probably should have done that before Devons won HOH for sure. You know, like D was in power last week. Where were you in Devons?

[00:37:25] You know, when that was going on. So, yeah, I think that we see a lot of people with these named alliance and they're getting out of control. Everybody in the house has a named alliance with somebody. But the reason for that is that at least you feel covered when the HOH happens. So that way, these people have to actively betray you. You know, so that gives you more license to be upset. If someone you're not aligned with comes after you, then all you can do is stand there like Rome and say, yeah, that man's a good ball player. You know, that's that's it.

[00:37:52] You can just like charge into the game and say, well, I wasn't working with him. So that's why I ended up on the block. Make an alliance with these people scheme and plot. Yeah. Well, I mean, Rome did try to to make an alliance after Devons was HOH. He said, hey, come come join the Four Seasons after there were four four seasons in it. And it was clear the alliance was preformed and Devons was only being invited because he

[00:38:18] was HOH, you know, and so it's like that's not the way you do it. And, you know, then, of course, from there, Rome spilled literally everything about his game, virtually unprompted and even offered himself up as a pawn if Devons wanted. It was like he was going through a checklist of all the wrong things to do when it came to scheming. Yeah. It's just again, you're not he wasn't really locked in. He didn't really know the show that well.

[00:38:48] And so he was just going off of his instincts. But your instincts are not enough to get you through big brother. A lot of times, I mean, sometimes it works out for people, but I would strongly recommend that, you know, you really take an active stance in your gameplay as opposed to just being social and letting the game pass you by. Yeah, I will say when it came to scheming and plotting after nominations, when it became clear Rome was going to be backdoored, he gave Lyric some decent advice that led to her maneuvering her way off the block.

[00:39:18] He did more strategizing to protect her than he did for himself. You know, I'll give him credit for that, too. The fake breakup, as dumb as it sounded and as transparent as it seemed, it did to an extent work, right? It kept him and Lyric off the block together. So by the end of the week, there was actually a world where if he won the blockbuster, him and his showmatch would have survived. And so, you know, as hard as I was on him preseason and even, I guess, to an extent I am now, I

[00:39:47] will give him credit. That is impressive because the vets should have not, they should not have made that mistake. That could have been a massive fumble. Rome could be in the house this week and he could be winning HOH and targeting some of these vets. I mean, if he's being honest about what he said when he says, oh, I would have gone after the vets, then this could have been an incredible mistake for Rick Devins. So, you know, kudos on making that happen. And I think, again, his urge to save Lyric was bigger than his urge to remain in the game.

[00:40:17] Yeah, I do want, he did help or maybe, you know, instigate the plan for that. I want to give more credit to Lyric. She made it happen. She convinced people that she was not really a player and that she was more naive and innocent and, oh, you know, made Devins feel comfortable. Devins even said, I don't know why, but I trust her. And I was like, well, you shouldn't, you know, but yeah, but yeah, Rome contributed to that. But Lyric really made it happen, I think.

[00:40:48] Yeah. She's very impressive week for Lyric. Even if, like I said, it's a little transparent, it still looked really good. Right. Right. Okay. Well, the second rule says not to scheme and plot too much and to keep your scheming secret. As with last week, I feel I have to reiterate something here. Keep your scheming secret. Rome violated this rule badly in multiple different ways.

[00:41:17] First, how obvious he and Lyric were about their showman. This rule specifically notes that such relationships are just begging to be split up. Of course, it also says the best way to do this is to nominate both members of the showmance. Something as we just talked about that Devins, D and Angela apparently forgot. But it still didn't work out for Rome. The rule continues, quote, players need to avoid the appearance of being part of a tight pair.

[00:41:43] If you fall in love and you value that more than $750,000, good for you. But these are rules about how to win big brother, not how to win a soulmate. And Rome even acknowledged to Dalton Ross that if he could go back and change one thing for his game, quote, I would have probably hidden my feelings for Lyric a little bit better than I did. It's a bit too late for that one, Rome.

[00:42:08] I mean, day two, we saw, you know, we saw clips from day two of him. And like, you know, I think this is this is the one I think this is a day to. Oh, you start to already lock in on this showmance. I mean, look, keep your feelings to yourself. Fine, whatever. But you making out and stuff like that on the have not bed and and then some, you know, doing all the things you're doing while laying inches away from people.

[00:42:35] We've seen have not rooms where there's a little bit more space between people when they're sleeping. These people are sleeping on one spinning bed together with a little divider between them. And y'all are doing right. Y'all are doing so much publicly and then saying like, well, you know, we also broke up. Really, that's crazy because I heard you last night kissing, you know, and we can hear you last night whispering to each other. They weren't he wasn't trying to keep anything a secret. So just be like, I think I could have hid my feelings a little bit more. A lot.

[00:43:04] A lot of it like that's you know, you gave away your biggest ally in the game. Most of these alliances are trying to remain secret to some extent. You're number one. You don't have a named alliance for it because it's just the girl that you want to be with the entire game and potentially outside of the house. So, yeah, he definitely gave his position away very quickly. Yeah. Like you said, the lies that he came up with were so bad. Oh, I I was only up in lyrics bunk because she had lost her voice and, you know, was whispering. So I needed to be up there to hear.

[00:43:34] And like you said, these are bunk beds. They're all right there. They could hear you. And then later they had their master plan that we already talked a bit about breaking up. Even he left at that in interviews because it was such an obvious lie. And yet some people who should have known better seem to fall for it for at least a little while.

[00:43:59] Yeah, it's it's the best that Rome could do, I guess, in these spots. But it's still bad, you know, and I guess, you know, when you have these big secrets, you're supposed to keep them secret. Right. I think at some point he's kind of like, yeah, we we're we're back together. You know, it's like the worst kept secret that that the house ever had was this showmance. And so, yeah, if you're not if you're trying not to put a target on your back, he went about it the complete wrong way.

[00:44:28] Yeah. So, as I said, he screwed up in this rule in multiple ways. Another was, of course, the way he just handed over his entire strategic alliance map to Devons. First, he told him his extended group and then he, of course, boiled down his list. He forgot it was a game just because he liked Devons.

[00:44:54] You know, he said he wanted to protect the betas and submissives, but he offered them up very quickly. You know, I think saving Jason and Lyric, I don't think that's necessarily saving the betas. I wouldn't consider either of those two people a beta or submissive. But to be like, yeah, Lala is good. You can have her, Mallory, anybody. Basically, you know the women on the bottom that you can have them. But don't take my strongest two allies.

[00:45:21] Look, OK, well, I don't I don't know, man. I thought you were supposed to be championing the little people. He was willing to get rid of them. And don't get me wrong. He should have been trying to save Lyric and Jason. Those they seem like very strong allies for him. But to just give that information to Rick Devons and say, OK, don't don't backstab me. When you especially when you don't have a real solid alliance between the two of you, it was a misstep.

[00:45:46] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the way he wanted to protect the betas and submissives was a little different. I have something to say about that later. You know, it wasn't it wasn't protecting them in the way of not using their names. It was it was a different way that we'll see. But yeah, in in telling Devons all of this, he also broke a specific corollary within this rule, which says if any alliances do get out in the open. Oh, actually, here it is. I forgot it was right here.

[00:46:17] Do not let it be known that you are the decision maker. But. Rome prided himself on being in charge or the president, as he said. But and this is where, you know, Taron got Rome to explain his betas and betas and submissives line in the R.J.P. interview. And Rome's Rome said he didn't want to work with the alphas, but be the face of the people who would be the masterminds behind the scenes. And he would basically take the attention off of them.

[00:46:48] And so he didn't mean protecting them that way. He wanted he wanted to be out front leading the betas and submissives. He wanted to be the face of them. And I mean, he succeeded there. He definitely took the attention off of them, which is literally the opposite of what he should have been doing. He said, don't target them. Target me. Yeah. And what are we doing? Are you trying to win the game by being the biggest target on your side of the alliance?

[00:47:16] I just think that he was just very misguided in what he thought the game was. I know they don't show them the game and sequester. I think Taylor Hale said they don't give them any any episodes or anything like that to watch. I kind of wish they would, you know, or, you know, just just so that some people aren't in here just walking around like like little targets, you know, for Rome. It was just a matter of time before somebody got him out just like this. Yeah, I think in his mind.

[00:47:45] He would draw the attention to himself and then he would win whatever comp in order to ensure safety. And and it's like you can't just automatically decide you're going to win a comp. It doesn't work that way. I don't know. Maybe he saw maybe he saw last season and it did seem like the person who needed to always want to comp. And he was like, oh, that'll be me. I'll draw attention to me and I will protect everyone. Hmm.

[00:48:12] Yeah, I think people should realize, first of all, that these concepts can be so random sometimes, you know, but then also that they're not easy. And then all these other people have a skill set as well. Right. So it's like, yeah, you might think you're very he said, I'm the most competitive person I know. That's great. That's you're the most competitive person, you know, you know, but when you get in this house, these people are also competitive and they want to be there.

[00:48:35] And I think that him imagining him winning a bunch of competitions like a Keanu style or even like Tucker style where it's like, oh, yeah, it doesn't really matter what I'm doing in the game because as long as I win, I'm fine. You you then have to put up or shut up. You didn't have to win. And he wasn't able to do that. Right. So Rome also spilled his plan for what he'd do if he stayed in one HOH, telling several people that you mentioned this, that he would put up all three of the icons.

[00:49:03] So doing exactly what Jerry O'Connell was wrong about. So, you know, two of the people he told were those who were nominated against him, Melody and Jason. So, of course, they told others about it with Melody's info getting to Devin's through Drew and Jason telling Devin's directly. When you have like two separate lines of evidence come together like that, you know, it's more likely to be true.

[00:49:29] And yet another reason to want Rome out because he was doing exactly what Jerry O'Connell said he should do. Following Jerry's rules and not yours. The dangerous game you're playing, Rome. Yeah. And then as if things weren't already bad enough, Rome tried to campaign to the guys. Just the guys. Maybe he thought it would be secret, which is ridiculous to believe.

[00:49:55] But D hilariously blew it up, even though we didn't see it on TV. I think Devin's summed it up nicely on live feeds by saying saying I feel like he just alienated the bleep out of all the women. That seems to be a common occurrence in this house as well. You know, there'd be a couple of other people who I just couldn't see them having a good, active working relationship with the women.

[00:50:19] But this was the best that it's the best that Rome could do with the limited knowledge that he had and following what his misconceived, you know, idea of big brother is. And so he thought, OK, well, the guys are a lot of votes. If I get those, then maybe they'll keep me. I can I can be a shield. It's like that's not how this works. If we keep saving you to be the shield, are you really the shield? You know, at some point, at some point you're the sword like Taylor. And so I might as well just get rid of you. Yeah.

[00:50:48] All right, we could go to the third rule, which talks about the need to be flexible. How would you say Rome did here? Not great. You know, the pivot. I thought the best thing he did in flexibility is pivoting away from Lyric for a little bit. You know, that attempt was nice for him. Again, this is a person who is like just completely confessing his love two weeks into the game, talking about marriage and stuff like that.

[00:51:15] So for him to actively be able to be like, all right, we need to separate in the game. I'll give him credit because that is something that I wouldn't have expected from him. I thought once he was in there, he was going down the ship. I just knew we were going to see him and Lyric sitting on the block hand in hand, you know, by the time the night came. But they managed to separate themselves a little bit. Aside from that, I don't really see a lot of flexibility in his game.

[00:51:41] Like you said, the scramble does start late in the week and he tries some interesting things. But I think when you're looking at Devin's and Devin's is kind of like, oh, well, who are you willing to sacrifice from your side? You know, for lack of a better way of just putting that, you know, I think the answer there is Devin's, you put up who you want to put up, you know, do what's best for your game.

[00:52:02] I'm with you, you know, and then if Devin is really with you, he might, you know, go above and beyond to save your showmance, you know, but I think he could have learned a little bit more flexibility for sure. Yeah. And you talked about this earlier. Everybody has multiple alliances. Almost everybody. Rome barely had one. You've got part of being flexible is having different options.

[00:52:31] And Rome had one or zero options. Pretty much. He had four seasons and Lyric, but neither of, I mean, I think Lyric was in four seasons. So it's just not, there was nothing he could do. There was no place to maneuver. The proof, the proof is in the pudding. This is the second week in a row. We almost had another unanimous eviction here. Okay.

[00:52:58] If not for Taylor, just throwing him a pity vote, you know, saying, I just thought he should have a vote so that people. Now, I thought this was crazy thing to say. He said, I thought she should, I thought he should have one vote so that he knows that somebody in the house does care about him. Said, damn, Ashley found dead in the ditch somewhere. Y'all didn't give a damn about Ashley feeling this. But, but see, I guess that's the power of Rome social game compared to Ashley's. The issue is that more, more people should have been willing to ride with him and they could have been trying to get these numbers.

[00:53:28] But they knew by the time this is all said and done, he was going home. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the fourth rule says players should not let their emotions control them. I don't think we have anything to discuss here. We can skip this one, right? There's nothing. Oh, my God. This is the weeping, the weeping. It's stand up. And then also the love. Love is an emotion. Do not throw your game away on day two and decide that you're going to be in a public showman. That's crazy.

[00:53:56] Showmances are are beneficial in Big Brother. They really are, especially a showman that can win competitions. But keeping that showman secret has been so beneficial for so many people, at least getting to the point where, OK, now that we're a public showman, there are bigger threats in front of us. But to come out and basically when we're looking for reasons to get rid of somebody, when nobody has wronged anybody, when we're just like, OK, give me something.

[00:54:20] You went and found a huge target and just place it on your forehead because you could not keep your emotions in check and not not some crazy anger or, you know, like you didn't get pissed off and say some wild thing. I mean, don't get me wrong. He definitely got pissed off and said some wild at certain points. But to allow yourself to get wrapped up in this love story that you wrote yourself, it really did take your game for no reason other than you felt a lot about it.

[00:54:49] You had strong feelings and you went with it. Yeah, obviously, this one was a huge problem for him. We discussed in the first rule how he did more strategizing to help Lyric than he ever did to help himself. And it just he didn't help him. He helped her. And but we're talking about him here.

[00:55:13] And, you know, we saw in the live feeds Saturday him telling Lyric he wanted to protect her, even if it meant he would lose the game because she meant too much to him. And I guess it made sense to him because if he had to live his life without her near him, the days would all be empty. The nights would seem so long. Deep sigh. Deep sigh. I don't like this at all. Even on his way out, you know. All right, everybody.

[00:55:42] Just wanted to let you know me and Lyric madly in love. Been lying to you all week. All the tactics that she used. Let me just highlight how effective she is at pulling the wool over your eyes. All right. Bye. And then just leaves her in the house where people say, damn, I kind of I kind of believed her. But that's crazy. Maybe she's better than I thought she was. Thank you, Rome, for highlighting that portion of her game. This man was completely wrapped up in emotion since day two. Yeah.

[00:56:11] I do want to say, even if after the season is over, the two of them go on to become a successful big brother couple and they live happily ever after. And they have big brother babies and everything else. It still will not alter our analysis of this as a game move. And as a game move, he blew it. Absolutely. All right. Well, the fifth rule says players need to pretend to be nice and play the social game.

[00:56:39] I would say for the most part, Rome did well here. What do you think? Yeah, for sure. People thought so highly of him socially. And that's why they looked at him as a threat. You know, they knew people like Angela knew that if Rome was galvanizing that side to make a move, then he could. He wasn't because he wasn't playing the game actively, but he could have. He really did have a lot of social influence, even to the point where Taylor is throwing him a pity vote.

[00:57:08] So he played nice with people. Now, we definitely saw him slip up, you know, him and Thog getting their little tiff after the fight, after the ceremony. Not everybody knows who Thog is. I think we should have seen it. Oh, Haley. Haley Thog Martin. Yeah. A.K.A. The Thog. No, I love Thog. Yeah. He, you know, he definitely had a couple moments, but he even went out of his way to patch that up. You know, him and Haley both kind of mid fences on that.

[00:57:36] So I think he was willing to play nice. You know, when Rick Devins pulls the wool over his eyes, he's not like Rick Devins is an awful person and it's me versus him. He said he played a good game. You know, this man is honorable. I still love him. You know, so, you know, whether that's him pretending or not, I don't think this was one of his weaknesses in the game. Yeah, I agree. So often the players who are voted out this early have some aspect of this rule to blame because they're just pissing people off.

[00:58:05] But over and over, Devins kept saying it was nothing personal and it really wasn't. I think Devins really does like the guy and probably almost everyone else in the house feels the same. And like you said, he kept a level head and except for when things finally got to be too much and he blew up. But, you know, he told Mike Bloom nothing in that house is personal as a competitor. I looked at him and I said, wow, you outplayed me. That was amazing. It was really well done.

[00:58:36] So, yeah, that was, you know, that one was fine. Seems like a nice guy. Yeah. Well, the sixth rule says not to be too much of a threat. Rome didn't exactly have a good understanding of how to handle this. He began by winning one of the first safety comps and he has an athletic job. He has obvious muscles. So he decided he needed to downplay himself as a threat by throwing comps.

[00:59:04] When Yash wanted to pick him to play for Vito, if he got house guests choice the first week, Rome told him, no, don't do that. I'm just going to throw it to avoid being seen as a comp threat. As Taryn noted in the very first live feed recap, it doesn't do any good to go around telling everybody you're throwing comps so you won't be seen as a threat. It literally kills the whole point.

[00:59:29] You're saying I am such a threat that I have to avoid being seen as a threat. And he went around saying this to multiple people. He he forgot to he was he knew that he needed to downplay himself. But he by speaking about it, you were doing the antithesis of that. You know, also when he's sitting around saying, you know, I think I'm the president. He wasn't able to step away from that and say, no, how does that make me look?

[00:59:57] Because if you think you're the president, what do you think other people think about you? Right. So he he can tell that he has a lot of social influence and that people are coming to him and people want to be his friend. And he could tell. But he didn't look at that and say, oh, that's probably going to make me a target. Maybe I should downplay that a little bit. Maybe I should get people to hey, maybe we shouldn't talk so publicly. Maybe I should go form some secret alliances. Maybe I should use my influence as the president to go and form a coalition around me.

[01:00:25] But he wasn't really doing that to build. He was just happy that people were like, like, I have people like me, you know. And so, yeah. And that magnetism that he had is part of the reason why he looked at such a big threat. He is athletic, but also you're very social as well. And people want to work with you. Yeah, I think we need to get you out. And for him, it's like, yeah, maybe you got to dim your light a little bit and not just be like, don't just tell people I'm dimming my light. You got to actually do it. Right.

[01:00:53] Well, the problem is he decided apparently to dim his light at perhaps the wrong time because he told Devin's he threw this week's HOH. Clearly, clearly a brilliant decision on his part. Now, we don't have confirmation past that mention to Devin's. I went back and rewatched the comp. It's, you know, as Devin showed, it can be hard to throw this.

[01:01:20] I don't know if they get practice throws, for example. And so, like, his first throw that we saw slid between the two hats. So he got a very low number there. Maybe he threw that, maybe not. But if he did, then he was stupid to tell Devin's the truth for the same reason we just discussed about how it doesn't actually reduce your threat level if you admit you weren't actually trying.

[01:01:48] And if he didn't throw it but just told Devin's that, he was stupid to lie about it because, well, the same reasons, really. When did he get locked out of that room? What was the day? Was that week one? Or was that when Devin's was HOH? Did he get locked out of D's room when they formed a teacher? No, it was Devin's. It was this week. It was Devin's. I know it seems like so long ago. So much has happened already. But yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So I want to go back to the Ashley vote.

[01:02:18] He was aware that the House was split on that and that they end up, you know, remember, they end up going and saying, all right, we all need to vote Ashley out because we don't want to give away our stance. But there was suspicion around that, you know, if they were going to vote her out or, you know, I think for Rome, when there is so much suspicion in the air about where the vote is going. I think this is not the moment where you want to throw the challenge. You know, he was he was trying to play like he was a floater.

[01:02:47] Like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to lay low, throw some challenges. People are going to keep me around because I'm likable. But he wasn't in a floater's position. He was the target. And so when you're when you're the target or when you can be the target, this is your chance. This is you need to seize power to at least keep yourself safe. If if I'm him and I'm in a public show, man, there's no way I'm throwing this challenge because I want to keep me and my show man safe. You know, like now you have to take a more active position in the game because you put that target on your back.

[01:03:17] He just couldn't identify that the target was already on him. Throwing challenges was not going to get that off his back. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, talking about the Ashley vote. I don't think he knew a lot of them did not know where those lines were. They were very blurry at that point. I think Melody clocked it. I'm not sure who else did. Rome clearly did not. Clearly.

[01:03:41] And so but yeah, in a situation like that, this whole thing of I'm going to throw right off the bat because I won one comp. Just. There's too, too many possibilities. He just felt so secure, like you said. And and maybe part of it is, you know, as he was trying to reduce his threat level in his mind, he still thought of himself very highly.

[01:04:11] He told Dalton Ross, these icons were quaking in their boots because of me. And it's just a testament to me. It feels good. It shows that I have strong qualities that people think should be out. But I also think that Angela knew I have a strong sense of leadership. I can rally a lot of people. That's one of my biggest assets. And that's what I thought I brought to the game. And I'm just sitting here looking at this interview like, oh, oh, yes. Yes.

[01:04:37] I'm sure D and Angela and Devin's were quaking in their boots. Well, is the rallying in the room with us? Well, if you had this power, why didn't you use it? You said they could see all these good qualities in me. Could you not see them in you? Why didn't you rally the votes? Why don't you have a side? I think when when when I think about throwing challenges, when we watch these shows, it's because you don't want to have the power because you don't want to wield it. And you don't want to show where your loyalties lie.

[01:05:08] You didn't have anybody. You showed who your loyalties were. You told Devin exactly who your alliance was. You only really had the four seasons that you should have been protecting anyway, because that was your named alliance. This was the perfect time to win a challenge. And everybody who you're not aligned with, you say, OK, boom. What can you do for me and my people? This is how you do that.

[01:05:29] But to just come in, like I said, get into a very known public showman, put that target on your back and then say, and now I'm going to throw the competition. How does that benefit you? You're not you're not going to wield any power. You're not going to rally any troops. And you haven't put yourself in a position where you should be trying to hide who you're working with. If anything, it should be very clear that Rome had his people, the four seasons. He had Lyric as a one on one. And then all the rest of these people were kind of secondary.

[01:05:58] And so for me, I think this is where you this is where you try to win. Instead, he's trying to throw. Yes. Yes. I like the way you put that, you know, the rallying part. Yeah. You can't rally people without power. Where was it? Where was the rallying? Yeah. All right. Well, the seventh rule says to trust almost nobody. And and Chappelle, I bet there's one person in particular you can think of who Rome definitely trusted when he shouldn't have. Yeah, this trust for Rick Devins is crazy.

[01:06:27] You know, not so much that I get it. You could trust Rick Devins. That's fine. It seems like a stand up guy. Right. But you trusted him to the point where you were willing to give him the keys to your game. You know, trust him to an extent. But if you trust him that much, why aren't you all in the final two? You know, if you say almost nobody, that means you've got to trust somebody at some time. Right. You have to be able to to vouch for people and to know these people have your back when it's time to vote. So I get that.

[01:06:57] But if you're telling Rick Devins all this stuff, this should be a we decision. Who do we want to keep safe? Not who on my side do I want to keep safe? Jason and Lyric. Maybe Lala, but she could go. But not those two people. No, that's if you're going to trust Rick Devins, trust Rick Devins. Go all the way in and make this somebody who not only you're trusting, but you're working with moving forward. And it just felt kind of like you said, like a gentleman's agreement. You know, like, oh, I'll look out for you if I can.

[01:07:25] That's not good enough if you're going to be telling somebody all the ins and outs of your game. Right. Right. Yeah. He Rome told Mike Bloom, my truth to him was always going to be out there. I never felt like I was going to backstab him because I trusted him fully. Which is interesting because we already talked about how he said in interviews that he would have nominated Devins, D and Angela if he won HOH. So. We clearly have some contradictions there.

[01:07:54] He couldn't even keep his stories straight in that regard. But he also said in his RHAP interview that Jason and Lyric told him Devins was not to be trusted. And we saw Jason as soon as Devins running around, he's going to back which. Jason, you're wrong. You know, I mean, I know it seems like he proved him right, but no, if you're Devins ally, he is never going to backstab you. Like, I fully believe.

[01:08:19] He will go to the end with D if they can do it, even if he believes D will beat him. He will go to the end with her. He will not backstab her. Right. I agree. I agree. I think. But I think Jason's point is still stands, right? If you're not his ally, then you should not be trusting him. In Rome, you had not proven yourself to be an alliance member to him. Yes, you had proven that y'all have a good working relationship, but he's not going to go with you to the end. Right.

[01:08:49] But the same way you are sure that he will go to the end with D, you don't have that relationship. So when your actual alliance, Jason, Lyric, when they say don't trust him, why would you trust him over them? Well, he said he thought he could change him, which is a ridiculous thing to say about someone who has already played Survivor twice. So it's not like this is some inexperienced person you're going to mold.

[01:09:14] This is someone who has played a game like this in much harsher conditions twice already. And you're suddenly going to be like, oh, let me teach you. Let me the person who knows nothing about these games. Let me teach you how to play. If Mr. Honesty, loyalty, integrity, Joe could change Rick Devins. Rome was not going to. Not that Rome has any idea who Joe is.

[01:09:44] Rick Devins is a grown ass man. I ain't letting no 20 something year old come in and tell me that they're going to change me. What? Change me? Do it be is what got me here. You know what I'm saying? You can't change Rick Devins. And this is a tale as old as time as well. People, I am going to be the one to tame the beast. I will change them. No, you won't. You're just going to be a victim. You're going to like you're trying to tame the dog. It's going to bite you. And that's basically what happened. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:10:11] I mean, the main point here is you can't just hand over your game to someone else like that. I don't I don't care how trustworthy you think they are. You know, I think Angela said it. He laid it all out on a silver platter. Yeah. All right. So it is about time to wrap things up. What are your final thoughts about Rome?

[01:10:37] You know, he could have gone far into this season as somebody who won a bunch of competitions. He decided to throw. So that didn't help. He seemed likable enough. So I, you know, appreciate that he didn't come in and make a bunch of enemies and go out like a huge jerk. But as far as somebody and their prospects to do well in the Big Brother game, we saw it in the interviews. We knew this was not going to be like he wasn't going to be long for this game if he didn't win a lot of competitions.

[01:11:06] I think we said the same thing about Yash and Yash has been slipping under the radar, you know, but he also doesn't have the same social influence that Rome has. Yash is not putting that huge target on his back for being a threat. You know, if anything, Yash has other issues with that'll put him in people's line of fire. But being a threat is not one of those issues. And so. I, you know, I think he did about as well as I thought he was going to do without any competitions with the competitions.

[01:11:35] He could have probably been a contender for later on in the game, but this just didn't work out for him. And I'm not shocked. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Wikipedia says the Roman Empire fell for a combination of reasons, including power struggles, increasing pressure from invaders and the loss of effectiveness and numbers in the Roman army, among other things. This Rome had some similar problems.

[01:11:59] Despite being thought of as a leader, he didn't put together an effective army, let alone one that could compete with the numbers on the other side. He thought he held power, but never truly did. And suddenly felt the pressure of an invasion that targeted himself and his closest allies. All of those problems were self-inflicted or at least made worse by his actions. He gave away far too much information. He showed exactly who he stood with from those he told Devons to the showmance that was clear to one and all.

[01:12:29] And every attempt he made to hide anything just made things worse, whether it was telling everyone he was going to throw comps or lying about breaking up with Lyric. Rome was the focus of the entire week. It was so clear he didn't even have hope for a Waffle Wednesday.

[01:12:48] And he helped in all of that because he was fully willing to sacrifice his chance at three quarters of a million dollars for a woman he met two weeks earlier, hamstringing his ability to even try to get himself out of the situation. Now, another factor that Wikipedia says contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire was incompetent emperors. Rome did not call himself an emperor here, just the president.

[01:13:16] But when it came to following these rules, he was exactly as competent as we thought he would be when we met him in the pregame. And that is why Rome fell. Why X fail coming to you live here on RGP? That's a good wrap up, David, I think, for Rome. Pour one out. You know, he was a good sport. I wonder, I'm very eager to see what kind of content we get for him now that he's outside of the game. Yes. Who does he team up with?

[01:13:45] Does he team up with Matt and start doing videos with him? Or does he like find someone better? I don't really know who his people would be because he doesn't really give me the same vibe that Matt Hartman gave us. They could bond over a joint this name for Angela. Maybe that could be something they bond over. But Matt was Matt was unlucky in love in the Big Brother house. You know, him and McKenzie, they did the in the house thing. Yeah. And, you know, and honestly.

[01:14:17] You know, this trajectory could be very similar to that, right? Like he goes out pre-jury very early on and then maybe Lyric works her way to the end of the game. But whatever. I don't know if it was that time away from each other or maybe they just aren't as compatible outside the house. But things don't really work out for Matt and McKenzie. I really don't think Rome, if he want to keep his relationship with Lyric going, I don't think hanging out with Matt Hartman is going to be good for your morale. You know, he might be a little down on your prospects here. So, I don't know, find somebody else, but make some good content.

[01:14:47] Give me something to talk about on the slot. Yes. Yes. All right. Well, everybody should be sure to stay tuned for our predictions in a moment, which, as we mentioned, are spoiler free and written without any knowledge of what happened on the feeds after the eviction. But first, a few other pieces of information. First, I want to mention that the rules we are referencing here are similar to, not exactly the same as, but similar to the survivor rules. And those come in a shorter and much more colorful version as a poster.

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[01:17:53] And then, of course, every other week talking about BB Unlocked. This week we had Izzy and Jenny Autumn on as our guests. And so that was a great time as well. Yeah, I'm looking forward to listening to that, definitely. All right, we could go to predictions. As I mentioned, we write these up, or at least in our heads, before the HOH comp. So, you know, I understand some people don't want to know about live feeds. You don't have to worry about that here.

[01:18:19] Now, considering we knew it's a big build for the HOH comp that required the backyard to be closed for a while, I think it's going to be something fairly athletic, which I believe will favor Kamu's abilities. I think he will, you know, get there. He will become HOH. And that's when things will get interesting.

[01:18:45] Because although I mentioned earlier that it seems like he's held off on the Drew paranoia, I'm not convinced. Haley has been hammering him about that. Yes, Thog has been hammering him. And I don't know if he will fall to it. But I think he will realize, even if it's true, it's still too soon to go after someone within your own alliance. He has been fairly steady about that.

[01:19:15] So I think he will stay making logical deductions about the game. And instead, he will go along with a different person. Haley really wants out, Lala. Along with her, I think he'll nominate Taylor as a close ally of Lala's. And then either Mallory or Melody or Jason. If he nominates Jason, if he wants Lala out and nominates Jason, I think it could be a mistake.

[01:19:43] Because I think more people would want Jason out than Lala. And so he won't necessarily get his target. But if not, then I think he'll be successful. And Lala will say bye-bye. Interesting. So I took a different approach. Because, you know, I'm team fun feeds. And I want the chaos. And so I was thinking, okay, what is the best thing that we can have? And we've seen this in Big Brother before. We like the tides to shift. We want the power to go back and forth so we can root for the underdog sometime.

[01:20:13] You know, so it doesn't get stale. So after watching that blockbuster, I really thought Jason has some momentum. And, okay, this would be the perfect time for him to go in. If it's an athletic competition, I think he's, you know, probably no slouch at that. And so I really hope that Jason is able to win HOH. And really just, you know, go and make this a little bit more interesting right now. Because, as you said, the combo thing would be very straightforward. But I think Jason, he would target those vets. And then we would have to see what it looks like when the vets have their backs against the wall.

[01:20:43] And I think that could be really fun. And so Jason putting up Dee, Angela, and Devin's. That would be my, fingers crossed, optimistic prediction of the week. Okay. Yes, I give, you know, I often give the here's what I think will happen. And then you give the flip side of here's what we hope will happen. Yeah, basically. Yeah. Jason's down and out. You know, so, you know, we love to see the underdogs kind of rise up in Big Brother. It's the fun of watching the game. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

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[01:22:03] And, you know, we will we will see everyone in a week. You can find us on social media in the meantime. I don't know if you have any words of wisdom to send us out on here. David, my word of wisdom is for you. Make sure you take a Sharpie with you to RHAPCON so you can sign these posters and stuff like that, because I think if I would be like showing up with my poster, I would definitely want, you know, some signatures on there. So bring your pin. You might have a lot of things to do. OK, all right.

[01:22:33] I will do that. And that is, of course, in almost exactly a month from now. So, you know, we'll we'll we'll still have plenty of time to talk about that. But I'll try to put some aside as soon as we're done here, because otherwise it'll just leave my mind and I'll forget. But yeah. All right. In the meantime, everyone, we'll we'll see on social media or right here in a week. Bye.