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[00:02:43] Hey, everybody. What's going on? Rob Cesternino. We are back here for one episode of Big Brother tonight. We got all of the fallout from that wild Saturday that we saw play out and all of the fighting in the house and so much more to talk about here.

[00:03:03] And we have a real fun panel of fun American people that we're going to talk through here today and here with us. I'm very excited on a Wednesday night. It's Pooey Zavikili. Pooey, how are you? Putting the man in Manscaped. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Yes. Okay. We can talk about that. Yes. Okay. Is it Slop Tuesday already?

[00:03:28] Oh, my God. All right. Very excited to be back here with, you know, I dropped the single today, so I finally know what it's like to be like this guy. You may know him as Air. We also know him as Jacob Jones. Jacob, how are you? I put the J in Jive Turkey. Bacock! That's what I'm doing today. That's what I'm doing today. I feel good, Rob.

[00:03:55] I'm with y'all. I feel lively. We're in a nice, nasty Big Brother season. Let's get into it. Yes. And very excited to be back here with Jenny. Autumn, Jenny, how are you? Rob, I'm great. This, you know, the letters FAP are on the mind and I feel like we're some FAP podcasters here. Yes. I think we're all on FAP here.

[00:04:21] You know, I was kind of, I was waiting for like, okay, well, they're probably going to make them change this name. They're probably going to make them change the name. But then, you know what? Then once I saw FAP on the screen, it's like, of course, Big Brother is going to do this. Like, this is so up there. Any sort of like phallic joke they could be making on this show, yes, of course, they were going to do it. They were not going to change it. But what do you think? They were going to FAP stain? That was never going to happen. They were always going to have that on the screen.

[00:04:51] Yeah. So they did it. They did it in the most Big Brother possible way. And we are in the best timeline. And this was such a, I thought this was such a fun episode. And I mean, I thought that the, once we got to the veto, I think things kind of calmed down. But that's the first hour I thought was so good. So good. Like. I'd say 10 out of 10. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I got to the point where I was like, are we even going to have a competition? Because I'm fine.

[00:05:20] Like, I am usually hoping on these Wednesday episodes that we spend as little time possible on on the veto competition, which is never the case. And, you know, I feel like this was as good as we could possibly do, especially because there was so much to give. I'm really, really glad that they didn't edit it down too much. And they gave us like a really long story before we, you know, got to the veto. Yeah. I thought they did a really great job.

[00:05:49] And so we'll break it all down and everything that's going to come up. And then also, as we keep an eye on tomorrow night's eviction, when either Chuck or Haley, and I don't really think even it's possible for Barrett to go home, but you never know. I don't think that likely. Yeah. I think that likely. I don't want this one. Unlikely. I'll bet on it. Yeah. Okay. Let's let's just talk about this. You know, Pooja, I'm always curious to know how how well did they tell this story?

[00:06:18] Were they were they pretty faithful to the events as we understood them? And I know that we didn't actually see the actual Haley versus Angela play out on the feeds. Here's the thing. I feel like when you're getting as little time as you can get on the show, it's never going to be an easy thing to do. But I feel like tonight just felt like they structured it really well. I think that we had the fallout. I think they they tailored in the Kamu part of that.

[00:06:47] Well, watching Angela's guilt get built up a little by little throughout the episode. Like, I feel like they did a very good job sequentially of delivering on that. And they were able to squeeze it all in, which I was happy about, because, you know, I think when you look at this, like four years down the line, the fight will be what's remembered. But I think tonight you can think of the buildup because I really thought the buildup was good here, too. Yeah. Really, really exciting to see how it all played out. And then I thought that this was news.

[00:07:15] And, you know, you all tell me. But I had thought that this whole fight between Angela and Haley ended up happening after Haley revealed that Angela had said when when Haley had asked, was it D who lied about the vote or flip the vote? And Angela claimed, trust your gut. And I and then when we saw that big reaction, it's like, boy, I think she does protest too much.

[00:07:45] It seemed like Haley really nailed her. We find out, Jacob, it seems like that Haley made this up. And Angela, this was an honest reaction to being wrongfully accused. Now, I will never give Haley a 10, but I will give her an eight for the way that she ate that up. I was loving it. Getting a person riled up like that straight to their face and lying at it.

[00:08:12] Oh, I mean, to be honest, before I saw this episode and before I really could trust Angela, I was like, oh, she did say this. OK, Haley, you doing a bang up job, Miss Mamas. But, you know, I mean, I like it. I liked it a lot, actually. I mean, the way the way that Haley did this was really funny because she she feels like she didn't really lie because she's like, well, Angela tells me to trust my gut all the time.

[00:08:38] So it's like she did say trust your gut to me at some point. So it was valid for me to say that. But the fact that we got the scene that she's referring to, that Haley is referring to, and we got to see that, you know. Angela didn't really say anything, but we also got the confirmation from Haley in the diary room that she was kind of fabricating the truth. And Haley feels justified to do this because she's like, you've just been lying to my face for three days.

[00:09:07] So I'm going to I'm going to lie, too. And she gets what she asked for here. I don't know if she was expecting this this kind of blow up. That conversation that they had on the balcony that Angela said basically, hey, we should just let this go. We should just. Yeah, it was. It's best just like, you know what? Somebody's lying. Let's just not think about it anymore. Yeah. The exact opposite. I mean, but I from from Haley's point of view, Angela mentioned her family and then she lied.

[00:09:36] So Haley was like, all right. All fair and love and war. Which can we talk about that? Because that is, I think, the most egregious part of the whole anger. Like, I get the anger of you lied to my face for three days. You didn't vote the way I wanted you to vote. Whatever. She shouted your family out because you couldn't shout your family out. Like, regardless of how she felt, would it have been better if she neglected them? That feels mean. Yes. It would have been better, Pooja. If someone, if I'm saying, yo, make sure you give my mama two kisses on the cheek in the diary room and then you lie on me.

[00:10:06] Oh, you lied on me and you gave my mama two kisses on the cheek. Oh, I'm done. That's how it is. No, I disagree because I think tell my mom she deserves loving. Like, why does, why should my mom get her shout out? Like, I can't do it. Let someone else say it for me. She disobeyed the HOH's wishes on top of the shout out. You can't, you can't undo that with a shout out. Come on. I think that people, you know, take the, take the family thing very seriously.

[00:10:36] And so, you know, but the, the, the thing is, is that the, the worst thing that Angela did was the lying for, you know, at least 24 hours afterwards. It wasn't so much the not telling Haley that this is the way the vote was going because Angela could still kind of play off. Like this, this wasn't about you. It's shown by the fact that I like still shout out your family because I truly care about you.

[00:11:05] It's just, I, I heard something was really freaked out about, you know, being on the wrong side of the vote. And then I felt really, really guilty afterwards and didn't know what to say. Like that's, that's what you can say. I don't think the actual move against Haley, even though it was kind of like in a way, it really against those three, that's not really what the bad thing was. The bad thing was the lying after. Right.

[00:11:31] Like, listen, as you know, I, I have heard many a shout outs get said in the last 24 hours. Like what? I think it would be nice to get shouted out. I think personally, I would like that. I think that'd be pretty cool. I shout you out every morning, Pouya. I appreciate you, Jenny. Just to myself as I, Pouya. That's my friend. Pouya, if I didn't die so quick on the traitors, I would have shouted you out. I know you would have. I thought I had more time. I thought I had more time.

[00:12:02] You were saving it for a better moment. I get it. I'm saving it. They got me before I got my shout outs. I also really love the buildup that they gave Angela when she, like, when she gave off her lie. I'm going to shower because I don't want people to think I'm crying in the shower, hands and face. Stream running down, her rubbing the hair. Haley enters the room. You look beautiful. Thank you. Haley, I'm sorry. It was so dramatic in only an Angela kind of way.

[00:12:31] Well, thank you, Rob. I like to call myself a lesbian. Not a lesbian, but a thespian. Thespian. A lesbian. Yes. I like to call myself a thespian some of the time. Yeah, I do occasionally. Yeah. You're thespian curious. Yeah, a little bit. I do.

[00:12:54] So, Angela, it seems like once we have that, okay, D is going to talk to Kamu, the episode makes it really feel like that. Okay. All right. Now, D gets to tell Kamu, I got to get the jump on this of that. I'm going to get, it's going to like D gets to alleviate the lying to Kamu. I'm going to be the one stuck having to do all the lying. I got to get ahead of this.

[00:13:25] Well, I think the way that it was edited as well really showed how like how tough this had been and how like hard she had been, you know, going through it for however many hours. And so it's like as soon as she knows that like somebody else is going to have that release of, you know, clearing your name. Hmm.

[00:13:50] She's like, I got to get in the shower, get myself ready for this because I too want this release. Yeah. And I need to race to have it. But, uh, and I do think that that was like, you know what, if, if we're, if we're telling things now, I would love to finally be telling something. Um, so I, I do think that it was just maybe a little bit of like, you know, jealousy of the idea that D could get some sort of release of her, uh, conscience.

[00:14:19] Um, we agree race to release the worst reality show. So to make it here, I'm sure that someone's done a web series. That would be something I would cover though. Like, sure. No doubt. Like Chappelle and I are on that like immediately. So she apologizes or she reveals to Haley. Then Haley goes and thinks about it.

[00:14:47] And then she goes and tells Chuck in the storage room. And then like the first sign of trouble happens when she comes back and Angela gets in. I know you just told Chuck. And Haley says, I didn't tell Chuck. And he's like, come on. Come on. Chuck, Chuck enters in five seconds later. I'm disappointed. I know she told you. Like Haley, what is this? You could have just fessed up. All the marbles are on the table. And here we go. But like, you wanted to lie even more. I get it.

[00:15:16] But I too would be pissed about that situation because Haley was passionately saying, Angela would never do this. We took a blood oath basically. Dude, it's so tight. They were so tight. And like, I, it's the conviction that, that was in Angela's heart that she had to confess, which I understand. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So the relationship is definitely fractured.

[00:15:42] And then we end up after D ends up having a conversation with Kamu, which we can talk more about if you want. And they bring everybody back into it. And then ultimately, we see Kamu tell us that, oh, I, for the, for the lols, I need to bring Angela into this for the TV, which we do appreciate. But, yeah. Like, I feel like Kamu got a lot, got a very good edit tonight. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[00:16:10] I think Kamu's going in the BB time capsule on Friday. Yep. I would say that's a good bet to make. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's happening. And they, they had him in the confessionals, arms up, nice tan tattoos showing pearly whites. I'm like, oh. Yeah. I need to admit how good he looked in the Vito. Yeah. He had a good 70s outfit. Yeah. I thought Yash looked was nasty. You know what? That's what I was going to say. I want the Yash shirt. That looked pretty good.

[00:16:38] I, I liked the Rick Devins jacket, but. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, it, it kills me to admit that. Uh, so I'm sure, like, apparently Kamu's got all, all of them thirsting in the house. So you have to imagine that, you know, people that are maybe not, uh, aware of all of the things Kamu are watching this just, oh, enjoying the view and, uh, they're going and they're going to make their little vote.

[00:17:06] Um, so yeah, I do, I do think that there's a very good chance that Kamu's popping into that time, time capsule. Yeah. The only thing that you would say, if you are rooting against that, you would hope that the people who are online have been voting every day are voting all week long. I just don't know how much they even talk about the BB time capsule that it's like the powers aren't really that great. How much are the, is the average person who's watching the show for, oh, I gotta, I gotta remember to vote for the BB time capsule.

[00:17:35] Especially with a week like this, where the, the quote unquote majority alliance didn't have power again. I feel like people may have taken their foot off the gas this week. Like they've just been hanging out. Yep. And also I went to try to vote and then I saw that you had to enter your email and I exited the page. So like, I think that is a deterring factor in a lot of ways for people too. Yeah. All right. Well, either way, he brings Angela up and we get really them going back and forth and

[00:18:04] it doesn't necessarily go to 100 instantly. Um, that Haley wants to, uh, or, or they, that D ends up saying that they're talking about, you know, who lied about the vote? Was it D or was it Yash? And Haley is saying that she's been honest the whole time. And then, uh, Haley brings up, uh, about the shout out.

[00:18:32] Would you rather I be on the wrong side of the alliance or the wrong side of the vote? Uh, and it really just is the jump off on Angela did not say trust your gut. This is really fun too. Like this was, I don't think anyone was really prepared for how much it was. That escalated because I don't think that that was part of the plan. I think it was just like, let's get some people in here, talk it through all of the people kind

[00:19:02] of implicated here. And what I also really loved that the, the show like acknowledged through D's, um, DRs is that like, okay, now that Angela has admitted, um, you know, we're doing the math. It only could have been D or Yash, not both of them that were, that were in on it. So it's kind of fun to bring the two of them in and have it be this kind of like open conversation

[00:19:30] about what, like where everyone voted. And, um, I really liked how we got the explanation of like, this is fun because D and Yash have their own thing. They're in like a separate alliance together. And so it's okay for them to kind of both just be still saying like, no, it was me. No, it was me. I'm playing against each other. Um, because they know that they're on the same page and that's fine. Like that part of it was, was really funny.

[00:19:59] And I think didn't even end up being a part of the conversation because Haley like, you know, ignites the spark and Angela and shit gets crazy. Yeah. That's a good point, Jenny, about all of this and that before this all blows up with Angela, D talks to Yash and it's like, ah, I need to go talk to Josh privately before. And she's like, all right. She's like, I'll just lie to that. Like you say that you didn't do it. I'll say I didn't do it. So like D and Yash were in cahoots with Kamu, like in this whole thing.

[00:20:29] So like this whole exercise was just to sort of like, uh, dunk on Chuck and Haley when they were there. But I guess Angela didn't quite get the memo that it was, uh, just kind of a dog and pony show and not like an actual inquisition. I mean, they had their threesome like squared away and they were key, key and ha ha and all the way to the bank. But also when Angela walked into the room, a little inside baseball, she first pointed out, she said, why is y'all, why is y'all share?

[00:20:57] If we're talking about an alliance and we talking about members in here and we being transparent within the red corner, why is he here? Um, well, um, well. And so Angela really came into that room, bootstraps, hair braided up. She came in for a tussle. She knew what time it was. And I think she handled her, her, her, herself accordingly, to be honest. Yeah. I think one thing that's always been the case with Angela is that she's going to unapologetically

[00:21:23] be Angela, whether that is sensible or not, she's going to ride how she's going to ride. Cause I do think that obviously there's a world where you, you just read the room and don't let it go here. But I think the combination of being upset about what you've done, being apologetic and then being, you know, we've all been there, right? You, you apologize. Some of you feel bad. They don't really take it. They don't really give you what you're looking for, which is like, let's move on. You know what? I'm a double down now. I'd actually, I've changed my mind. I'm not sorry anymore.

[00:21:53] I think we also were starting to get there a little bit also. Well, this got compared a lot in the days leading up to this, to the, of course, crazy eyes, Matt Hardman situation from big brother 26. And ultimately the way this played out, this was very different where both things like started the same way. I understand the similarities, especially from our perspective of, I think both things happened on a Saturday. Both things happened first thing in the morning.

[00:22:20] Both things happened after Angela was sort of like up all night ruminating. But in the one, in the Matt Hardman situation, she was like planning out exactly what she was going to say. And she had her like speech where she like, she was in complete control of what was going on. This was, she planned to like come clean to Haley. And then after that, I think there was no plan after this. This was Angela at a complete lack of control.

[00:22:49] And she was not expecting after coming clean to Haley to have Haley make up a lie about Angela in front of everybody. And so that Angela just was seeing red and not Haley's hair. I think psychologically, though, that that really like points to something in that she, you know, was really she even says it in the diary room. Like, you know, when she was in on this vote flip, it was really fun.

[00:23:18] But then, you know, she started to like feel badly about it, worried about, you know, it was a race to release. She finally, you know, she finally gets, you know, this off her chest. And I would say that, you know, the conversation with Haley, the first one, the initial one in

[00:23:47] the bathroom did not go as well as she was hoping it would. But she's laid all her cards out. And so she feels like absolved of any guilt and for Haley to kind of bring it back in and to be like, OK, because she is still lying by protecting D.

[00:24:13] So she's not fully gotten everything out, but she cares about D. I've never seen Angela as excited to make a vote than when she voted out to evict Lyric. Julie, I'm here to play. She had the grin on her eyes, the stars in her eyes. It was insane. And I loved every minute of it. But once you come down from that coffee enema that you got injected with and once that wears

[00:24:41] off, then you're like, oh, now I made a real friend and I effed over. Oopsie daisy. And you get the crying, Angela. But even though she entered that room with no notion of what was going on, she knew she was on defense. And I would have the exact same reaction Angela had. I think this was the most practical reaction Angela has ever given off. I just I just think when you're in a position where you're beefing someone who's the house

[00:25:08] target, it's easy to just like get in the argument with them because you can come across in a better spot. You don't do what Kamu did where you call a whole meeting to like shit on them, basically. But if they're speaking on your name in a way you don't like, don't let them take the high road. Don't let them get the high ground. But I think Angela definitely goes a little step further because at one point it really does feel like Haley has put her hands up and said, I'm done fighting.

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[00:28:02] rescues Angela from the gym meeting after she had been listening nearby, we then see that Haley and Lala have a back and forth in the kitchen where that Lala wants an apology from Haley to Angela. Yeah, Haley made it ugly. I didn't like it at all.

[00:28:30] She didn't say anything and she was mute and Haley was in her mind saying what she had to say in a very calm way. And I just think Lala took on, even though I have to admit when Haley was HOH, we saw a different Haley. We didn't see no puppy dog scurrying the corner, whimpering, sad, mopey all day. We saw a bad that wanted to isolate every other and that was ready to go after it. And so where is that Haley now? So when the energy is bought back, how come you're not putting your heels in the mud and sticking in it?

[00:28:57] And so I don't feel bad for her, but Lala, don't take on Miss Mama's beef. No, let Lala have a big head over the, have a bit of HOH-itis. I'm very okay with this because Haley has been acting like she has struggled for five weeks now. So if her one week is worth three weeks worth of struggle, I think that'll balance it out for me. I'm kind of okay with it. And Lala just hates her. So that's... Yeah. I'm like, you know what?

[00:29:26] That's not, you know, who am I? Who am I to tell her who she should hate and not hate? Um, it's just funny to me. Uh, even though I can be empathetic, I'm choosing not to. I'm very okay with this. My favorite type of big brother is confrontational big brother. And so just seeing them across the table with people in the kitchen eating a cereal, making a milkshakes, making X, Y, and none of them backing down, straightening each other's face. I was like, please give me more. Haley, don't walk away. Please say something. And Lala was just ready to pop off.

[00:29:55] It got me excited. Haley couldn't get out of it. There was nothing Haley could have said to escape that. She's like, I don't want this to get ugly. Why? I was like, who's making it ugly? Are you saying I'm making it ugly? Haley could have said, Lala, I want a kiss. Like, it just would have got... It just would have... Like, Lala was ready to be on her ass. I don't get it. This was also... This was also the same woman that was HOH and said,

[00:30:21] and all the fake-ish, nobody better be eating my gluten-free snacks, my sugar-free tea. No one eats my food. I don't want none of that up here. So y'all stay down there. And so, you know, I like when Todd has turned a little bit. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And Lala sent her to the bathroom after. So, yeah, go there then. Go over there. Yeah. But Haley respectfully, he'll leave the conversation. Let's go back to the beginning of the episode also,

[00:30:47] because I thought there was a lot of fun fallout from Lala's nominations, where she first put Haley and Chuck on the block. And we saw Chuck was so indignant about now being a person who's on the block. Haley, Chuck, you guys are a strong couple. And we saw that Lala the other night said this about Chuck and Haley. She ended up saying, Haley, Chuck, you guys are a strong couple.

[00:31:16] You're a strong couple. Boy, Chuck is a really beautiful lady. And I think she thinks I'm a handsome guy. But we truly are just friends. What are you talking about? And in her speech, she said that Haley and I are a couple. She's a beautiful lady. And I think she thinks I'm a handsome guy. But we truly are just friends. Yeah. There's truly no one worse in the diary than Chuck. I get where you're coming from, Lala. I get it. Like, of course, like, she's very beautiful. I'm a very handsome guy.

[00:31:46] I don't see it, though. I mean, just because we're both really attractive and maybe also agree that we are both attractive doesn't make us a couple. How much did they not have that this was the DR they put for him? Which was him clarifying, I'm good looking. She's good looking. But trust me, America, we're just friends. Nothing's going on there. It's Chuck time.

[00:32:14] It's giving Corbin talking about him and Parmita. We both work out. Lee is the same person. Yeah. I like, this was the first time. I've been grossed out by Chuck before, especially today. Oh, yeah. Oh, my goodness. But honestly, if I just want to tease y'all or add y'all to the scent joke, it has to smell like man musk, right?

[00:32:41] It has to smell like man musk. And I don't know. I'm kind of like, let me let it can. We're racing here. A little bit. Let me calm down. Let me calm down. But Chuck was nasty in his, for one, I didn't even expect him to communicate to Lala in that way. It was like a little bit disrespectful. It was like, you don't know how to play the game. I've been in the majority. You now need to learn. And you think you're doing something. Well, you know what? Let's get there. I think that first Taylor comes out. And Chuck is saying that I can't believe this.

[00:33:11] What's wrong with Lala? A couple? Chuck, listen to me though. I'm just thinking. Hold on. That was so dumb. That one was so low. I got it here. I don't think I love that. Have you ever been considered a couple? A couple? When we're only just friends in the house? Like, that was so dumb. That one was so low. And so, like, when have me and Hayley ever been considered a couple? It was a lie. She lied. Is he offended? She lied. They're a couple. That's not true. Come on, Lala.

[00:33:42] Stop lying. Stop tapping. He has to grasp at straws to have something to complain about. Truly, he's like, how dare she call us a couple? I am a single man in this house. It's nice that you ship us. Push is thinking. Yes. Oh. Do you want to be part of the sinking ship? And he's thinking ships. Then Lala comes out and tells Chuck about his situation. The Chuck is lying back. Push is thinking. Do you want to be part of the sinking ship?

[00:34:11] What the freak? Shitting shit my ass. I love how, what, what words Chuck uses to like, you know, use like the more PG version and what ones are okay. Like he's decided what's allowed to be said. What the freak? What the freak? Ass. She can ship my ass. She can ship my ass.

[00:34:40] No, he said sinking ship my ass. Oh. Rob, you just, Rob, please. Yeah. I thought he was, I was like, what if she can ship my ass? Some people online thought he said. We're not dating. We're friends, but she can ship my ass, man. Well, people thought he said she can shit my ass. Oh, no. Freak. And maybe that explains some of the thing. Sinking shit my ass.

[00:35:11] That's Big Brother out the dark right there. Yeah, sorry about that. What the freak? Nasty ass. To your point, Jacob, you said that your favorite version of Big Brother is confrontational Big Brother. And Chuck is doing the opposite of that. Chuck is all big in the DR right now talking smack about Lala, but had none of this energy for Lala in person. He was disrespectful. Like he definitely was like condescending to her face. Yeah.

[00:35:39] But he doesn't talk as big as he does in the DR. Like he really bigs it up in the DR. But like in a way that is so like still boring. Like still not impressive. We got an old lady read. We got Lala doesn't know what she's doing. Like I'm like, Chuck, if you're going to read, read. Like go nasty. Don't just stay like on. That's easy stuff. Man said her game is disgusting.

[00:36:10] And we'll get to what's disgusting later in this episode. Chuck, don't you worry. We'll get there. Yeah. I really don't like how he talks about or to Lala. Like even I feel like, like this is even before all of this happens. But like, yeah, he just really thinks that he he's pulled a good one in how he speaks to her. And it was, it was kind of, maybe I'll talk about this in previous episodes,

[00:36:36] but when Lala and Taylor were debating about whether they should put Chuck up, they first were like, no, we don't want to do this for the culture X, Y, and Z. But I thought it was so fascinating that big brother, we're now on big brother 28. And we now have black winners that look like the people that's playing in the game. And so even people on Twitter, I saw a tweet by Dave Vaughn saying, we already have people that look like us. You can put them on the block and don't feel bad about it. Cause Chuck is nasty.

[00:37:06] His mouth is nasty. His attitude is nasty. His nuts are nastier. But yeah, I very much so liked this moment. I very much so did. Yeah. Yeah. This is also from the beginning of the episode that, I really hope you're not trying to record your CR right now. After finding out about the nominations. She said this in the diary room. I can't ever recall this before. And I really hope you're not trying to record and do a DR right now,

[00:37:35] because I look like absolute ass and I would have to go put makeup on respectfully. Yeah. I've never seen somebody in the diary room saying like, Hey, this is not for the shit. I'm not. You can't film me right now. Don't clip it. I would not expect that anytime you go into the diary room, that, that it is a potential diary room that they are going to, you know, possibly use on the show. Like, I don't understand the concept of like, like,

[00:38:04] by saying that there's, they're going to be like, Oh, actually, no, you're giving us some good stuff right now. Do you want to go take 30 and go like slap on some foundation girl? Like, but this just, the fact that they included this, not the first bit of evidence we've gotten. Uh, in fact, it's like, like item like 53 of the season of the producers are so down to dog this girl. Like the fact that they included that clip, especially to be like,

[00:38:34] yeah. And she didn't want us to air this. Like, Oh my God, they hate her. It's actually like so crazy. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about some of the powers that we had discussed in the episode. Uh, we see first that Devin's talks to D about the power. She comes clean to Devin's and it's no harm, no foul. Devin's I think legit does not care. No, I definitely got the vibe that he was very,

[00:39:02] he just wanted to know if he was right or wrong and he felt like he was right anyway. So it was fine. Yeah. D then is going to have this big conversation with Kamu and she does such a good job and she really is so good at this. She throws Haley and Chuck under the bus and she's able to explain her lie to Kamu in the, the context of, we just hate Haley and Chuck so much. We thought you were going to tell them. And he's like, Oh, okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah.

[00:39:32] I think this episode did a very good job of highlighting the polar opposites that, uh, Kamu has been with regards to Haley and Chuck within the same alliance, because those two are willing to not use the veto and stay on the block to protect him. And he is a very self-serving player who has realized the writing on the wall and will buy this narrative. If it means buying him longevity in this game without the two of them. So it doesn't matter whether he buys what D is selling or not. Just take the deal and move on. I think that's the right choice.

[00:40:00] But D does tell Kamu about her power. And she says she has the BB bribe. She says she hasn't told Devin. She hasn't told Angela. She's only telling Kamu. She loves to lie a little bit. She does love to lie. Yeah. And I mean, I like this moment for D. I just didn't really get it. Like, I was just like, okay. Like if we're being honest with them, D was like, let's just rip off the bandaid so I can, I already feel like I'm in the mud with you.

[00:40:28] Let me throw something else out there where you feel like you have my undying loyalty now. But to be honest, this power, $5,000 to give to someone when they're in the house fighting for $750,000. Is that how you say that number? $750,000, right? Yeah. Okay. I'm in for the real money. And so I don't really get this. I don't get this, this, this coin of, not coin of destiny, this thing. I get it because I do think the five, I agree with you.

[00:40:57] I don't think the bribe is a big power, but I think that information is worth more than the bribe itself is. So for Kamu to be not only being confessed to, I think for D, it's let me take it a step further. I'm not doing this for no favors. I trust you so much. I'm going to share this thing that I'm not even going to tell anybody else about. And I think that is just a bonding moment that I think she's hoping can get them further together. And Puyo, do you also think because the power is so minuscule in regards to the bigger game that she's like,

[00:41:26] if this does get out, okay, but I'm still going to give you this little nugget. It won't be that much. If it does get out, that it will like transform it. Yeah. I think the biggest worry with this power is if other people deem it as a threat and want to put you on the block to burn it or get rid of you because now you are a bigger threat to their game. But other than that, it's fine. I think actually the biggest threat is that she hasn't told Angela about it.

[00:41:52] And I think if it gets out that Kamu knew about the power and she didn't tell Angela about it, I think that that's really the, like if they, if, you know, if Lala finds out D has the BB bribe, it's like, okay. Uh, if anything, I feel like it like lowers her threat level. It's like, they're afraid that she has some cool power and it's like, Oh, she can just like pay somebody $5,000 to do something. 5,000. Yeah. Yeah. I, I'm worried for D the one thing that I think is like, you know,

[00:42:20] we've seen what happens when Angela feels like that there's a, a wedge between people. So I think that's the one thing I worry about. It's, it would probably even then be fine. I think that D has really good, uh, uh, Angela whisperer skills, but I think that that's a little bit of a hole. I feel like, I feel like D would probably like manage the situation in, in such that she would tell Angela before there were,

[00:42:50] there was any risk of Angela finding out, um, like some other way. Um, and would probably, you know, if they're all still in the game at whatever point she decides to enact this power, she will fill her in before it is used so that she still has that. Like, I'm telling you what I've got. I've been keeping it to myself or whatever. Um, but you're right. Like, especially after Angela has this, like, you know,

[00:43:17] wild meltdown over lying and then, you know, comes clean to Haley, but it's still kind of lying on behalf of D if, you know, if she were to feel like I've been really trying to protect you against my own, like morals and you clearly don't feel the same way about me. Like I could definitely see Angela getting, uh, you know, really torn up about that. But I, I, I really just think that, you know, what D said about Kamu is,

[00:43:47] is correct in that he really values honesty. And it seemed like the conversation that they had just really flowed naturally. And she just, I don't know. There was a little bit of like social lubricant that, you know, and, uh, she just, she let it slip out. And, and, and she even says that she wasn't even expecting to like say that, but I do think the fact that she had already kind of acknowledged the power with Devon's,

[00:44:14] I think the previous day that kind of got the situation started. It's like, now it's been said out loud. It's a little bit more real. So it's like a little bit easier to say it again. Yeah. All right. You got a little loose. Exactly. Seal was broke. Exactly. Let's, uh, talk about the veto competition a little bit. And again, uh, kudos to the big brother costuming department, the set design.

[00:44:40] They've come so far in big brother from where they were even like three and four years ago. And so we're going to go back to 1977 to do our glass bridge memory competition. And we're going to have everybody, uh, face off again. It's, it looks cool. Uh, you can't really play along at home. Um, it's, it's fine. The actual competition.

[00:45:08] Let me ask the question that we had this rule where if you had the fastest time in round one, you get a buy. Is it better to not have the buy? I know that come ultimately one. Pooja, do you think another round of practice is beneficial for round three? Well, you could tell that Barrett kind of got a groove on no pun intended, very close to winning the whole thing by the end.

[00:45:34] I think ultimately you really are damned by your 50 fifties closer to the end of platform. Regardless. Um, I don't, I don't hate the idea you get to practice one more because ultimately you are getting one more matchup under your belt and then you still have to do the final round anyway. So I might side with you on this one. I think I, I would rather do get another round in, um, and, and, you know, fight through that than to skip around unless you feel very confident, but I wouldn't feel confident.

[00:46:04] Like it's not going to be the same pattern. So it's not like you're getting the same practice, but I guess if you're trying to develop as you go, like a strategy, unless you start like from the jump and you have like your perfect strategy, how you're memorizing it and it works the way you want it to, then maybe you don't need that practice, but like just getting the reps in of like, okay, like this is how I remember which way and which number. Um, maybe that, yeah, that practice does help, but it,

[00:46:34] you're like, it's nice to get a buy because then it's like, okay, I just need to win one more. It's not like, I have to like, because there is also a little, yes, it's memory, but there's also like Pui said, the 50, 50 of it all. Like there's an element of luck. So it's like, maybe it's best to just have the least amount of competition. Like, I think the other thing I would say, if I was to advocate for the skip is that if you get to watch everyone else's matchups instead and kind of see how they, what style they have, that could give you an edge.

[00:47:03] Like for example, if you're like, Oh, Barrett likes to just keep trial and error. And he doesn't wait to look at his opponent. That's good for me. Cause if I watch behind him a little bit, I can maybe catch up and just skip my own steps and like move in a little faster there. So there's strategy there potentially. Can they see each other? I don't, I do think Kamu, Devin said to Kamu on the live feeds that you could see Barrett's and he was like, yeah, I could. And so I think they, they definitely did. Well, Kamu, I think did.

[00:47:32] So they can see it light up even like not just see their bodies moving. Cause like from the angle it's shot at. Oh yeah. Maybe, maybe it's just the body movements then. Hmm. But obviously if they keep going, like, I guess you can kind of tell which side they're on. I don't know. And I don't even know if that would really help. Like paying attention to somebody else. Like, I'd be so locked in on my own platform. I don't think I'd have time to look up on someone else. I wouldn't. Yeah. So Kamu ends up winning the veto competition. And now I think this is going to be tradition.

[00:48:00] Now he gives us the Keanu from Kamu to Keanu. I believe you have a prompt, but Yash didn't crash out. So it didn't feel authentic. We got it once. They don't need to do this every time the compass, like we don't like just once. Never again. Do you remember that? Cause I know it was Ava who was the, who was hosting the veto during that comp. But she wasn't the HOH. Why was she so mad? She hated Keanu.

[00:48:29] I mean, it's Keanu getting egotistical to your face. I feel like she was not going to let it slide. But was she HOH? I don't think so. You know? no, no. I don't think so. I don't recall. Cause why would she be hosting if she was HOH? Yeah. I guess so. I was just trying to remember why was she so mad? Why was she so annoyed with Keanu? Because it's Keanu. If the house pariah is getting mouthy to me, I'm not going to let it stand. I can't have that. Rob, having someone tell you, okay, ma'am, deliver your lines. Like, it's like, hold on.

[00:48:59] What are we doing? Hold on, puppy. I think that also people, like the, everyone was kind of just like sick of Keanu and like the whole, like there, there was no positive reaction to him winning. And it was just kind of this awkward silence. And so I, that was like what prompted him to be like, I believe you have a prompt. And it was just so smug. So she's like already annoyed that he's won. And then he kind of puts it on her. I think that was more, it wasn't really about her.

[00:49:28] And also just Ava would just get mad at, at things like that. So. Yeah. It was a great moment. I just couldn't remember like the backstory of like, why did, why they had beef. Everyone was sick of him. We were sick of him. Okay. That's what everybody said. People, people in the chat are saying that it was, it was, uh, Mickey's HOH was when that happened. Okay. That sounds right. A good moment. Okay. Tomorrow morning is knocking. Stock your fridge now.

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[00:52:20] and then they'll have to put up a renomination that's going to be somebody that's not even in the red corner. Chuck basically went to Kamu and said, give me the necklace. Like he basically was like, this is mine. I chose you. This is my necklace. You worked for me for free. Now give it to me. And he got, what did Dale say? Those tables be always turning. I was a little bit spooked behind it. I was a little bit spooked behind it.

[00:52:48] And that Kamu has come up with this plan with Lala of, hey, oh, they told me that somebody who's very close to me is going to go up on the block. And so that's the reason why I can't use the veto. And I don't know. I guess for Haley and Chuck, I guess they accept this. But it's like, I don't know why you needed that fake story of why. I think it's actually a thing of like,

[00:53:14] if you tell somebody you can't do something and you have an actual because, like people like accept it more than if you just said you can't do it. I think that, I think the way Kamu has played so far also indicates that he needs a justification for his actions. Like even when he wants to put Jason up, he wants to target Jason. He needs to vilify him. He needs to say to everyone, these are the reasons why, when the reason should just be, I don't vibe with him. Or I don't think he's good for my game. That's good enough.

[00:53:42] Here he could just be like, I think it's better for my game if I disassociate. But like, that's not, that's a hard truth to put out there. It's better to build a bunch of nothing and feed you the nothing. That's better. And Chuck and Haley, they cannot believe it that the great Kamu, who they were willing to throw their games away for, that they were not even, if they won the veto themselves, they were not even going to use it. So Kamu would not have to go up on the block, would not even use it on them.

[00:54:14] Do you think there's a world where Kamu would have been like, I just couldn't pick between the two of you. I genuinely think they would have let it go. They were like, you know what, you're right. I think Haley would have had her foot on his neck the entire time. I don't think she would have definitely not let that happen. I think she wanted it. Yeah. You should have just been like, remember when you said that, the way that we win people back is we just don't use the veto. Like, yeah, it was under different circumstances,

[00:54:43] but like that's the plan. If someone wins the veto and we just don't use it, you did say that. It's essentially what Haley did with the lie about Angela. It was like, you often told me, trust my gut. So you could just do the callback of being like, remember the one time you said, don't use the veto. I just was following what you wanted to do there. You did say it once. Yeah. Well, I want to make it clear that we all said, okay, no, Haley would not let that slide, but none of us defended Chuck. I think all of us believe Chuck would have been like,

[00:55:12] that's a good enough reason for me. Keep on the block, sir. Story checks out. Makes sense. Haley asks, what's even the point of an alliance if somebody doesn't even use the power veto on you? Haley sometimes makes good points. No doubt. It is a good point. The fact that she's like, oh, maybe we don't have an alliance with Kamala. I mean, even when she was upstairs with Angela saying, well, would you want to be on the right side of the vote or the right side of your alliance? Like, which one would you really rather be on?

[00:55:41] But it's just like, damn, I just don't like her. So I can't fully agree with her. But dang, she'd be making some smart points. I have to give it to her. Yeah. Just goes to show how terrible her social game is. She can be right about things, but people are still like, I can't support it.

[00:56:29] Yeah. He's reading a teleprompter, right? Like, that was a lot. Get out. There's no teleprompter in there. We saw when our friend Jerry O'Connell went into the room, Jenny. They made an exception for him. I truly believe. Because what? Yeah. Was this one? Did Kamu say this when he was, when his chest was out? This is Chuck. This was Chuck. Oh, who did I say? You said Kamu. It's a Kamu.

[00:56:58] Chuck say this when his chest was out in the dining room. I think so because I couldn't focus on nothing other than the man's chest. I was like, okay, Chuck. Listen, the prompt was not prompting. So I understand there were other things to pay attention to at that point. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I have to say, I know I'm a big Haley stan. I want her to stay.

[00:57:27] But, you know, some of these Chuck diary rooms do, they do get me. It's in the same way that Haley was the best host of a comp is like Chuck is also the best in the diary room in that way. Which, to be clear, it's definitely Melody. That's what I truly feel. But, like, Chuck is the best, quote unquote, in the same way that Haley was the best. Yeah.

[00:57:54] If Melody's DRs are cinema, Chuck's DRs are the movie you go to with your friends where y'all are just talking smack about the whole thing. All the way through. We still need it. It's still important. Oh, it's still a good time. Very different reason. Yeah. All right. And listen, there's a world. Hey, Barrett's on the block still. Chuck and Haley could both stay. Rob, please. That's not going to happen.

[00:58:23] We all know what Rob's cheering for. Yeah. Okay. He shouted you out, Rob. Come on. I know. I know. He's a nice guy. Look, Barrett's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. But you'd like it if he was messy like the other two people on the block. Right. Right. Okay. Actually, that's a good reminder. Okay, Barrett, part of the four awesome people. And they are going to come up with a name for their foursome.

[00:58:52] Melody, Mallory, Drew, and Barrett. And they come up with a bunch of ideas for average people, for amazing people, for American people. And then they become for the American people. And we are officially born for the American people, abbreviated FAP. I just understood that four could be F-O-R and F-O-U-R. You know what?

[00:59:20] Honestly, when I had heard it, I had only heard Taryn mention it, that they were going to go with four American people. I was like, okay. I was like, whatever. I thought it was the number. Yeah. We're just four Americans. Four American people. Okay, sure. I think it's target that way. Yes. Because they were trying to, because, you know, clearly they were trying to shoehorn a reason for these letters. That's why we start with four average people, four amazing people.

[00:59:50] What else? What else are we? American. That's an A. Four American people. And then, like, they're like, that sucks. But you know what doesn't suck? Four the American people. And then the T, because obviously it's not a big part of the acronym. It's just, we drop the T. It's lowercase. And this is what they've landed on.

[01:00:12] Which, you know, absolutely so much better than what the true alliance name was that we will never, ever get to fully acknowledge on the show. But we know it in our hearts. We know what cap is. Yeah. Imagine they, like, go on to dominate the season and then Julie has to explain to people when they come out of the house, actually, there was a secret four-person alliance that was running the game. Do you want to know what it's called? I can imagine it.

[01:00:41] Personally cannot wait for one of them to win HOH next week and have BB announcer guy say that they're having a fabulous ring. I think that's in the cards. You got to put that in there. Yeah. So good. Okay, we also got to saw Mallory and Melody Punishment Time. Jacob, would you consider wearing the Adam and Eve punishment costume? Yes, I definitely would consider it and I would volunteer for it. He would look so good. Yes.

[01:01:11] Like, I'm, like, there are a few people I would suggest before Jacob. Yeah. Jacob, who are you getting tied to? I'll get tied to Taryn. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Shocker. Wow. Both walking around. And I've heard around the street, check out the L.A. streets. Oh, Jacob. And probably the last time y'all seen me, Jamie and Pooja, people have been like, oh, Jacob, you're getting a little muscular.

[01:01:40] Your body's starting to feel. I'm like, well, you can't see it now because it's contained. But when it's not, busting at the seams, baby. So, yeah, put me in it. Chest out, baby. Okay. Just like Chuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This would break the internet. I want it. Like, Jacob and Taryn sharing the apple centrally in the Adam costume. Like, crazy. Half-con's about to change lives. I'll tell you that. Oh, that would be fun.

[01:02:09] Like, the internet is going to have a race to release. Okay. Oh. Wow. All right. Who can finish first? Rob, am I fired? Am I fired yet? No, no, no. Yeah. Why don't we talk about some live feed stuff and talk about as we head into the vote going into Wednesday night.

[01:02:35] If anybody is leaving us at this point, don't want to hear anything, tune in for Thursday night. It's going to be a great episode. Brendan and Rachel are going to be here with Taryn. I'm going to be on a flight tomorrow night, and so I will be missing the eviction recap. I should be back for Sunday night's episode, but I will be missing, I'm very sad to say, missing both the eviction and Brentshel on Thursday night. But you all will have a great treat.

[01:03:05] We're excited, Rob. We're going to miss you, but we're going to thank you for leaving us well fed. All right. Rob, are you going to be in air, missing who wins the blockbuster and who gets evicted? This is a big week for you. I'm not sure if they're going to have the show on the flight. If worse comes to worse, I might have to wait until I land on the West Coast. Get that in-flight Wi-Fi and just fire up.

[01:03:34] They'll see what I can do. We need to find out if you can save Thog. This is a spoiler. I will be able to be a spoiler. All right. Spoiler. With that in mind, let's talk about what's happening on the live feed. And that protective action should be taken. The Office of Civil Defense has issued the following message. This is a spoiler. Warning. A spoiler. Warning means that an actual spoiler against this country has been detected, and that protective action should be taken. Okay.

[01:04:03] All right. Let's get nuts. Let's, yeah. What the freak? All right. Let's talk about the vote going into Thursday night. Pui, where do we stand at this hour? Rob, you might want to cover your ears for this one. Why? What is it? Oh, no. I think your thog is still win or go home right now, unfortunately, for you. It's not looking good. But Rob believes in her.

[01:04:33] Yeah. You believe in her, Rob? She's a competitor. She's going to be, she plays softball. She's going to be good at the challenges. I feel good about her in a blockbuster. Yeah, we'll see what the blockbuster is. But I, I mean, I think, no offense, but her real, her only opponent is Barrett. I just don't see Chuck winning a blockbuster tomorrow. And even Barrett hasn't, like, won.

[01:04:58] Like, he's been close on a couple things, but he's also had, like, a couple really bad performances and challenges. So, like, it really could go either way. Yeah. I, I don't have a lot of... It's Chuck time! I don't think so. I'm not seeing it. You know, they still haven't done the one where you have to be, like, tied up in the strain, in the ropes and try to get to that one. Chuck's going to be bad at that. He's too big and bulky to get through, like, the monkey bars to be able to escape.

[01:05:27] Is he good with ropes? Yes, technically, I think he's good with ropes. But if there's anything you have to, like, untangle yourself from and climb in and out of the thing. Is he a cowboy or does he just wear a cowboy hat? I think he just wears that. Yeah. He's LARPing. He's LARPing, definitely. Yeah. I'm trying to remember what some of the other blockbusters are that they've done. What was the ball one? Yeah, there's, like... Oh, where they drop the ball into the... Ah, into the thing. It's like a pod.

[01:05:55] Yeah, or they've got to, like, roll the ball down the platform, right? Yeah. Yeah, you're trying to get it into the tube or something. That one's hard. That one's hard. Hey, you know who knows how to throw a ball? It's Haley. It's Thog. It's Thog. Yeah. So, I don't know. I like her chances in the blockbuster. We saw Chuck. He did win one of the comps back in the first week when you had to, like, put the... Like, cross the bridge. So, he was okay with that. But we'll see. Is it anti-Haley?

[01:06:24] Is it pro-Chuck? What's the sentiment in the house? I mean, it's still anti-Haley. I think the idea is Chuck goes next week. That's kind of where they're at, is that Chuck will be lined up to be the next person to go. I think for some others, they're potentially looking at Chuck being the bigger target for next week. So, it's more so that than anything. And I mean, let's be very honest here. Whichever one of them survives is going back up on the block next week unless one of them wins H-O-H.

[01:06:52] I think it's a mistake for the vets to not be pushing harder to keep Haley. I know that Angela and she are not on the same page. But I do think that there is less of a chance that Lala and Taylor are going to work with Haley. And so, if Lala and Taylor are sort of like at the core of leading the rookies against the vets, I think that Chuck is somebody who could win HOHs for those people.

[01:07:22] And then could potentially like, hey Chuck, this is what you have to do. I think that Haley is a little bit more, it's going to be easy for the vets to sort of manipulate her and keep her in their good graces and use her as a weapon against the other side of the house. So, I believe, I think that they should be keeping Haley. I think on an entertainment standpoint, that has the higher dividends paid off for entertainment also.

[01:07:49] Because if somehow Haley can pull out an HOH and puts up Angela, could you imagine what kind of feeds we're going to get next week? That would be phenomenal. Whereas, I don't, Chuck winning HOH does nothing for me. Besides potentially just giving him more DRs for us to, no offense, but laugh at. Like, I don't think there's a lot more going on there. There's not a lot of potential.

[01:08:14] But like, the combination of Haley's HOH itises and also some of this incredulousness, that's at least something to pick at, to look at, to laugh at, to root against even to a certain degree. I'm here for that. Yeah. I also think that even though everyone is kind of talking as if like, okay, this week we get rid of Haley or Chuck and then the next week it's the other one.

[01:08:39] I really do think that we run the risk of Chuck kind of falling to the wayside and other things being seen as bigger priorities. Because once they're split up, because I don't know if you've heard, they are a couple and don't tell Chuck. I know.

[01:09:00] But once they are split up, I do think that the threat of the two of them and the problem that people see kind of diminishes. But people dislike Haley. So if Haley remains, there will still be people that have Haley as their initial target no matter what.

[01:09:21] Whereas I do think that people will look at Chuck and even if they don't love him, they are, I could see people being like, why am I going to waste my HOH week on Chuck who no one likes? Like I have to break up this power structure. So I think that there's a higher chance that, you know, he kind of falls into the background and some other stuff starts happening.

[01:09:49] So it just really depends on what your rooting interest is in the game. But I do, I do think that especially for the vets, like having Haley there as like a common enemy for everyone else that people would still go for first before starting to take shots at them. That's probably better. We'll see. We'll see what they decide to do. And really, this is the night to watch. And really, I was on the podcast last week with Chappelle and Mary and we really were saying goodbye to Drew or Melody.

[01:10:19] There's no chance that one of them is going to stay. And then it really was Thursday morning where things started to change. So things can change on a dime in this house and people could wake up in whatever kind of mood on Thursday and ultimately change things. We've talked about the live tribalification of Big Brother 28. So if D or Devin's end up with a last second idea, we could see the vote end up swinging around. Pouya, has there been any talk about what the next HOH comp could be?

[01:10:49] Not that I recall, but I'll be very honest. I tune out when that conversation usually comes up. It's not really something that keeps my retention. Have we had a knockout? Yeah, that's why I was so – I think that there's maybe even a little speculation over there. Are we due for the knockout competition? What a bad idea. I don't want to manifest things necessarily. But I actually feel like that if it's a knockout competition, I could see a world where people are very afraid to pick Kamu in the knockout competition.

[01:11:18] And considering he's been very good at mental comps, I could see that being a layup for Kamu. He gets a bye again. Yeah. Also with so many sides of the house trying to target a person from the different side, I think that could be the most interesting thing. We have a group of three or four and then we have the icons. We have the Giggle Girl or we have FAP. And then we have Taylor, Yash, Lala, Kamu. Kamu in between with the icons.

[01:11:45] And so I think a knockout would be so interesting with the dynamics of who would choose who. It would be interesting, but I think that all the sides are pretending they're with Kamu. And I think that even though many of them would secretly like to see him go, I think that maybe other than the FAP, I don't know if anybody's going to call on Kamu in the knockout. Okay, hear me out then, Rob. Because they have to randomize a starting pair.

[01:12:10] So what if Kamu is just randomized to be in the starting matchup? And then it's like, you have to get your back. Yeah, you get someone that just locks in quicker and he loses that way. And then we've got an open game. Like, listen, let's just believe in our dreams. Because I agree. I do think that people are, one, going to fear losing to him. And you're maybe not going to pick a competitor.

[01:12:41] I don't know, I guess because you're picking like who goes next. But I don't know. Yeah, people are not wanting to show their cards. But I also could see some of these people just being like, oh, I picked you against someone that I knew you would beat or something. I don't know. Like, these people will say whatever. But I do think that that's the situation you want is that he gets randomized. He's forced to start that first one. Yeah. Okay. We'll see.

[01:13:09] It could be a knockout. It could be something else. Of course, we'll find out by Thursday night. Anything else going on? Yeah. In the words of the immortal Julie Chen, cue the balls, Rob, because we've got to talk about something. Let's talk about it. Okay. What's going on? What's going on? We must talk about it. If we must, we must, man. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm not going to get too into the details because, quite frankly, yuck.

[01:13:38] But, basically, there is a bit of an odor situation happening in the house where one of the, you know, not the nether gorgon, but the nether region of one of the house guests is seemingly, shall we say, not welcoming. Okay. And not that it needs to be welcoming.

[01:13:59] So, I had seen the clip that has been reshared where Taylor confronts Chuck and says that she believes that he is the cause of this issue. Now, prior to this conversation, had there been any discourse around the house of, hey, does anybody else smell this? Is there an issue?

[01:14:25] Or was this just like Taylor took it upon herself that she noticed something and she was going to call Chuck in to tell him about this? I don't, well, you guys can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't feel like there has been open conversation about this particular issue. I feel like there has been a lot of conversation about Chuck being one of the worst roommates in terms of, like, cleanliness and, like, respect for... What the freak? Yeah. I know.

[01:14:56] I know. So, I think that maybe that topic because, like, he, in the clip, he immediately is like, well, is there pee on the floor? Is there pee on the floor? And so, like, you know, there's a discussion about that part. But to me, I think this particular issue seems like the first time it had come up. Yeah. And the clip was funny because not only did he first say, well, is there pee on the floor? And she's like, no. You know, body parts have hair.

[01:15:24] Sometimes the hair can keep odors. And he's like, wait, so it was hair on the floor? Like, he just couldn't understand that we're talking about a smell that's attached to you. We're not talking about mess you've made. This isn't what we're discussing here. He was committed to misunderstanding the situation, which I actually think was maybe intentional because he was just like, plead ignorance here.

[01:15:46] I mean, and the fact that you have your homegirl sitting across the chess table also saying, before Taylor mentions the smell, Haley saying, oh, are you talking about the smell? I'm now looking at Haley. Oh, you can't on the joke, too? She immediately was like, you have a certain smell sometimes. Oh, and Haley was like, you know, I've been there. I've dated men. She said, I've dated men. I was like. So you're complacent with this? Yeah. I know exactly what this is.

[01:16:15] Is this why Haley has had such a hard time in the house? She's been with Chuck the whole time. Maybe this is why they're not a real couple. He's an attractive lady. She thinks he's a handsome guy. Honestly, I would rather. Like I would fight through so many things, so much adversity to stay in the big brother house. If I got told I smell. He's like, maybe we can get rid of him this week. Maybe we can go.

[01:16:45] Yeah. If I got called out like this and was told I'm smelling, I'm self evicting. You'll never see me again. This is shame. I could not stand this shame. If you go into a room and then you leave the room, go all the way upstairs. And then the stench is still in that room. And the person goes in that room after you open the door. Oh, this is Chuck. Oh, you have to evict. Evict me, brother. Like someone knew it was me based off of probably a five minute gap. And then they went to the restroom. He might evict me, please.

[01:17:15] Evict me from earth. Like, hello. Yo, I'm just waiting for the moment where Chuck hides behind something when someone else goes into a room to strategize and like, wait, I think Chuck is in here. Where is he? How did you know? Yeah. Hmm. God. Yeah. Wow. This is, I don't think we've ever had this type of conversation in the big brother house. Maybe. You know what?

[01:17:44] They used to say that sis smelled. Sis? Do you remember this, Pooja? This sounds familiar. I don't remember the exact story there, but. It needs to say that sis used to, oh, maybe she's not, she's not bathing. Yeah. And all of you online that said that Barrett, they thought Barrett smelled and then they were surprised that everyone said, everyone in the house says that Barrett smells so good. So it's like, people talk about how each other smell.

[01:18:13] All of you shady MFers online have been like, no, I bet you this. Well, we have proof that they think he smells great. And now we know who doesn't. But then you also have to get into Chuck to maintain that body. He has to pump iron. So Chuck outside sweating all day, getting greasy, sweaty, milky. You know what I mean? Like it's milky. Well, it's natural pheromones, I believe.

[01:18:39] Like if you go to a men's, if you go to a gym and you in a men's locker room, that is probably what Chuck smells like. He smells like a men's gym locker room. Like that's probably what, you know what I mean? Wow. Yeah. I'm still at milky. Yeah. Milky was a little nasty, but you know. I actually hate that I have an active imagination because like Jacob, you're too good at the description. Like it's.

[01:19:08] And you can smell it, can't you? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I can almost taste it. Yeah. I think to sum it up, Chuck could afford to go on a race to release the hairs. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Well, you get the clippers on Thursday. You know, it would be so funny if Chuck comes out of the house and he doesn't shave his pubes like throughout the entire duration. He's in the house gets off the house.

[01:19:37] Oh, people talking about my smelly hair. Let me put it in a Ziploc bag, sell it on what are those sites? Amazon or. Yeah. What are those sites? Whatever. What do people sell things on? What's the eBay? If he sells his like stuff on eBay just for someone to take a sniff, that would be crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Boy, this. Boy, this interview on Friday with Chuck could take a turn.

[01:20:05] Question, who was the house guest preseason that said they do some, some barber? Was it Chuck? What did he say? How are you going to be the barber and you're not taking care of this hair? He's strictly above the belt, baby. Maybe they're like, hey, Chuck, have you considered maybe doing some grooming? He's like, no, no, no. I got the Yash thing going. This is like. It's called. I got the Yash, but not on my head.

[01:20:34] It's called the downstairs Yash. The Australian Yash, if you will. The down under. Yash down under. Yeah. And also, I think that with Chuck, I think me and Chuck have the same hair type. And so, Chuck, you got to shave that. Like you, Chuck, Chuck, I'm talking to you, brother to brother. Chuck, you have to shave that. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:20:59] They need like, I don't know what the implements in the shower that they give them, but like those exfoliating like gloves or like, like exfoliating is very key just in general. Well, you know what? Honestly, after Angela started throwing the knives yesterday, I don't know what we're going to get. Oh my God. You'll never get anything again. Oh my God. Chuck's hoping for a scissor. I'm not sure. Rick Devins had to cut his beard with the toenail clippers.

[01:21:29] I know. That was disgusting. He didn't have to for the record. I have to. I agree. I agree. Not me to do that. Yeah. I didn't. I genuinely didn't think we would get to a point in this season where I am not saying Yash's hair needs to get cut. I'm willing to let Yash keep his hair if, if Chuck can deal with his, because while I'm not impacted by it, now that I know it exists, I fear that I know too much and I can't have it be around.

[01:21:59] The way that they, they both put like Haley piped up immediately. You just know like this has been impacting people. It's like, that's her friend. She immediately was like, yo. Oh my God. So you're saying this hope for Haley on the block tomorrow. Rob, not enough smells. Not enough smells. It's still winter go home. Guys, we can't take it anymore. So, sorry. I am at 1,002% sure that I am a Pharrellis target.

[01:22:29] Haley ended the episode for the second night in a row. Talking about Lala. I am 1,002% sure that I am Cruella's target. This calling Lala Cruella DeVille is not, it's not landing. It's not a thing. She's really trying to make it happen.

[01:22:51] I will say the, the MMA versus AARP that we got in, in the previously on a section was one of the wildest things I've heard. Like they're like, it's just like old. Like, oh my God. Chuck was Lala alone. Chuck wrote that one. Yeah.

[01:23:16] He can't even write his own diary rooms, but he did write that one. I need Chuck to stand up and give a plea speech tomorrow. Like he cannot win the, because I need to know what this man's going to say live. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is a dream scenario, right? Like Thog wins Blockbuster and the vote is Chuck versus Barrett. Like that's what, that's what everyone's rooting for.

[01:23:45] I think everyone's rooting for that, but I feel like Haley has been like a puppy hit on the nose with the, with the newspaper too many times this week where I feel like she's kind of a little bit tapped. Like her energy. You think so? She'll bounce back. Yeah. All right. Let's bet 50 on it. I think so. I think so. Will we get a goodbye message for Chuck? Chuck, smell you later. Taylor's going to bring that up. Chuck, if you're seeing this. Smell you later.

[01:24:16] All right. Anything else from the Big Brother house? I think we've released it all, Rob. We've released it all. All right. Well, this was so fun. Jenny, I do apologize for earlier when- Yeah, you were gaslighting me, I heard. Yes. Everybody else in the world could hear you. Yeah. You're like, oh, is there a woman speaking? I can't tell. Yes. I'm kidding.

[01:24:46] Maybe the bad internet was me, so I do apologize about that. Okay, Rob. I put it together that you were the only one that apparently- I was the only one. I was the only one. I'm so sorry about that. We'll figure it out on the remix. So, my apologies to you, Jenny. Let's see what's coming up in the future here on RHAP. Brendan and Rachel are going to be with Taryn tomorrow night, so be on the lookout for that.

[01:25:16] We will be together at RHAPCon in two weeks from today. Can you believe it? It's going to be so exciting. We have so many fun things planned, games, podcast panels. Big Brother's 1,000th episode. We'll be together for that. You can get tickets still at RHAPCon.com in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

[01:25:40] We have so much great stuff over on Patreon all season long, including last night. It was an all-timer on the slop. So fun. We had so many laughs there as well. I was hoping that this Chuck clip would make it till Tuesday when I got to talk to Chappelle again, but we might have to rehash it anyway. And so many fun things from last night's slop. Definitely check that out. Today, we released my Big Brother mailbag with Taryn.

[01:26:09] We went through all of the winning odds for all the players into week number five and answered your questions. You can send them in. Rob is website.com slash BBmailbag all week long. And then this Friday, I will be in L.A., but we will be in amazing hands when Pouya and Brandon Donlan, shout out Brandon Donlan, will be live at 3 p.m. Eastern for the Q&A this week.

[01:26:38] We'll both have Coke Zeros. We'll be ready. It'll be fun. I can't wait. Coke Zeros, call in with your hot takes. Check that out over on Patreon. And then with Ethan's on, I went through with Mike Bloom on a Survivor time trip back to the first swap of Survivor episode five of Survivor Africa over on the Survivor podcast feed. Pouya, how's the Traders Australia going? I'll tell you this. It's been so much fun. We're four episodes deep.

[01:27:05] It's been absolutely exciting the whole way through. There's some wild choices being made, decisions being made, twists that have come through. The host has been very fun. And you know that just means Annabelle and I are having a great time talking about it. So make sure you all check it out. Okay. Yeah. I got to get the episodes and maybe I'll catch up this weekend on the Traders Australia. I've heard nothing but good things. And then what's happening on the PAL?

[01:27:31] So we got to catch everyone up on the PAL this week with our AC drama we had. Liana was very tapped into the Big Brother stuff going on. Oh, man. Oh, Asana. It was 92 degrees at one point in our house. Like when I tell you, I would have self-evicted. I would have left. It would not have been the move. But no, we had a lot of fun. Back to regular form on the PAL. Learn about whether or not Liana is...

[01:28:01] What's the word I'm looking for? Overstaying her welcome. Oh. That's a clickbait. Yeah, check it out. See what I mean by that. That sounds worse than actually... Let us down back. Oh, yeah. That was worse than I couldn't hear Jenny. Yeah. No. Just watch the PAL. It'll clear it up. Don't worry about it. Trust me. It's fine. Everyone's showing up with pitchforks. Honestly. Jenny, what's going on for you? Nothing, Rob.

[01:28:32] Just life. And I'm really enjoying the season. It's been really fun. And I'm glad that we got to get the F-ass podcasters together tonight. And I'm looking forward to seeing everyone in Milwaukee in like a couple weeks. So I can't believe how quickly summer has gone by. Like we're already at what, August 12th? Like wild. So anyway, this was fun. Thank you for having me. I am on social media.

[01:29:01] And that's pretty much all. Because all my shows got canceled. So that's it. All right. Well, great to catch up tonight. By the way, speaking of summer, summer of Stein coming up tomorrow as well. So there'll be plenty to talk about with Eric Stein. Jacob, what's coming up for you? Big brother. I'm here for it. I'll be on the live feed updates, I believe, next Thursday morning. Which I have. It's kind of a new resurgence. Because I haven't done live feed updates in probably two years. But you've been on addiction day.

[01:29:30] I know. Yes, yes, yes. And so it's kind of like this season. My era of life that I'm in. I really feel good. And my attraction for Big Brother is just kind of growing every time. And yeah. And so I'm also making music. I make sexy ass music. I made a... I released a new single last week called Sunset Tower by Air. A-T-I-R. That's so good and so milky. And shout out to the RHAP community. Because y'all have shown me so much love.

[01:29:58] Even as I've been getting back to podcasting. Even with my music. And it doesn't go unnoticed. I appreciate all the messages. Someone even at my job was like, yo, you learning? And I was like, yeah. And so it's just... I appreciate the community aspect of this platform, Rob. That you've kind of just like, you know, created. And so I appreciate all y'all. And I had a fun time tonight. I told Chappelle I want to be on the slop very soon to get sloppy. So please have me on. And yeah. You were slop adjacent tonight. Yeah.

[01:30:27] We were nasty as hell tonight. And I appreciate it. You knew what you were getting yourselves in. A little bit. This is a commercial for the slop. Yeah. You know, have fun. I appreciate the opportunity. And thank y'all for having me tonight. Yes. Okay. And then come find out if Jacob Jones is as muscular as they're saying on the streets at RahapCon. Put me in an outfit. Bring the Adam and Adam suit. Yeah. In the handcuffs. Yeah. Pooja, anything else that you got going on?

[01:30:57] I mean, quite frankly, why do we need to talk about that when we can talk about Jacob and Taryn being handcuffed to each other in RahapCon? Get your tickets now. I mean, besides that, we've been getting back on the swing of things with 90 Day Fiance, the Hot Mess Express. We've been catching up there. Wild season. Rob, this is one of those casts where I feel like had you watched from the beginning, you would have been enthralled with it. Okay. Truly some audacious people on this cast this season. And aside from that, find me on Twitch. Twitch. Okay.

[01:31:28] And then I also dropped some sexy-ass music today with my plea to the Big Brother House guest to keep thog. So you can catch that on Instagram and on all our social media as well. Lots of kind words for my latest video. So I really appreciate all of that. And so thank you so much to all of you who joined us here tonight. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye.

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