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[00:02:20] Every single season, you know he is the reason. You know what's happening. Rob said that he could do it. Tomorrow he will do it again. Hello, everyone, and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for August 13th. I'm your host, Rob Cesternino, and I'm here to update you on everything that happened yesterday.

[00:02:50] The Big Brother 28 live feeds. It was day 37 in the house. We had some more talk of a vote flip. We had a little more maneuvering, moving around. Another plane adventure and plenty of things to talk about heading into tonight's eviction and HOH. With me to talk through it all is Maggie. How are you doing, Maggie? Hi, Taryn. Hi, everyone.

[00:03:20] I am great. I have to be honest with you that I have been so obsessed with the live feeds this week in a way that makes me feel like I am a live feed updater, right? Like I get on here with you. But it's on constant, like, because I'm excited to watch it. And yesterday was like the sleepiest, I would say, out of all of the days this week, definitely. There's still some stuff to talk about.

[00:03:47] But I'm just like, this week has been so fun. And it's just been fabulous. And I'm having a great time with the season so far. Yeah, I mean, things are still moving along pretty interestingly. Of course, we do have a new HOH competition coming tonight. That is going to be the big thing to be looking out for. A lot of people think that they are positioned really well.

[00:04:14] A lot of people think that they are in the middle of a lot of different things. And really, only one group of those people can be right about being in the middle of all of those things. And it's the vets. The vets are right because the vets are playing better than everyone else. Totally. But the vets, there are still some people who would put up the vets. Like, they aren't untouchable right now, depending on which way the HOH goes. Even though they are playing as though they're completely untouchable and playing with their food at this point.

[00:04:45] Yeah, I mean, nobody right now actively like Taylor maybe. Even then, though, she's like... Haley? Well, Haley, maybe as well. Haley, I'm discounting Haley and Chuck because Haley's like on her way out the door potentially. But yes, Haley. Haley, probably the most likely to actively target the vet.

[00:05:10] But she's also so out on an island that like, who knows what she actually ends up doing if she even stays. That is why I will say, like, before we get into just the events of the day, that's what I'm rooting for. I'm rooting for a Haley HOH. She said her nominations would be Lala, Dee, and Kamu with an Angela backdoor. At that point, like, the diamond power of Vito, totally, you can try to use it. But like, who is Haley's closest ally that would like, hurt her? You know what I mean?

[00:05:39] So I'm just like, that's my main thing that I'm rooting for. I'm with Rob, the thog song. Like, that's what I would like to happen this week. Just for the chaos of it. Make everybody sweat a little, you know? Yeah, that's my secret weapon. I have no friends to put on the block. Literally. All right. So, of course, as you all know, Lala is the HOH. Barrett, Chuck, and Haley are on the block. Haley is the de facto target.

[00:06:09] She is the default. But there's been a lot of talk about flipping the vote to keep her over Chuck if Barrett wins the blockbuster. But nothing has really solidified yet. And even over the course of the day here on Wednesday, nothing is going to solidify in terms of any kind of vote flip.

[00:06:30] And I genuinely think this is just primarily because, as I talked about yesterday, nobody really cares enough. And so nobody's bothered to really fully make an attempt. I think we might see another one today. We'll have to wait and see. We'll talk about some of the conversations that happen because of it. Drew is somebody who actively thinks Haley should leave.

[00:07:00] In every conversation D or anybody else has with Drew, he says Haley should leave. But he's one of the few. Him and then, obviously, Lala and Taylor really want Haley to go. And then D really kind of wants Haley to stay. And she's going to have a few conversations about that. And then almost every other person is just kind of like, do what the HOH wants because who cares?

[00:07:28] I think Melody also would like Haley to go. Yeah. I mean, they've had conversations about it. But she's not actively campaigning to anybody. And Drew is actively campaigning for Haley to go because of that conversation he had with Kamu the night before. Where Kamu, actually, I hate Chuck. That guy sucks. Sucks. Sucks. Sucks. So, like, sorry.

[00:07:55] If you guys haven't seen Rob's video on the RHAP Instagram, what are you doing? But I probably will be quoting it all through this update because it is so funny. But he was basically like, I screw that guy. I was never that close with him. And with Drew with his sights set on Kamu because he was the one who wouldn't swear on the Bible to him. So all of his ire is now pointed at Kamu as the one who was going to betray him when he was on the block.

[00:08:23] He is really, really pushing for whatever makes Kamu the most or whatever cripples Kamu the most. Yeah, which is funny because Kamu is like when he asks Drew about Haley staying, he says, no, the only person that wants Haley to stay is Kamu. But when she asks Kamu, he's like, no, Haley should go.

[00:08:45] Like, Drew doesn't know that Kamu actually is fully willing to drop Haley and actively like not wanting to burn his own relationship with Lala and Taylor to keep her. Though he does recognize that like keeping Haley is like Haley is more likely to link back up with Kamu. And and in addition to that, every time he talks to Haley, she talks about trusting Yash a lot, which I think is also a red flag for him. Yeah, definitely.

[00:09:12] And I think that also like when it comes to Kamu and the vets, like I think Drew's big problem is that he like has been really underestimating his competition. Like Kamu coming to him and being like, yeah, I like Haley. I don't like Chuck makes him be like, oh, then he wants Haley to stay.

[00:09:36] And he's completely blind to the fact that Kamu is playing so well that he has all of these other options and is absolutely willing to drop Haley. Like Kamu didn't use the veto on Haley. In what world do you think that they're that close that like Haley has to go? You know, I I think Drew will talk about it when we get to like the end of the day.

[00:09:59] But Drew sometimes is just in his own world of the level of gameplay that's happening in the house and can't expand his mind to the fact that like he is, in fact, on the lower end of skilled players. Overall, he's he's young. He's yeah. Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah. Chuck and Haley are going to spend some time together.

[00:10:27] I mean, really spend most of their time together. They do. They're upstairs playing chess. This is this has been. Probably the biggest thing from yesterday that people are talking about, which which, you know, at the very least is this is like in a representative scene of of how Chuck and Taylor's relationship has continued to kind of deteriorate over the course of the week.

[00:10:57] That Taylor kind of walks up to the two of Chuck and Haley. And she's just like, you know, I'm looking at you, don't you? You just used the bathroom, didn't you? And and Haley is like, oh. Yeah. He has a smell. Well, and and Taylor's like, what did we talk about? It's I already told you to take care of it. And he's like, what?

[00:11:28] Manscaped? What? What the fuck is manscaping, bro? And Taylor goes on to to explain to him that he needs to be manscaping. He does. He does say this. I'm chicken number two. Oh, my God. She says it's not about the number two. It's about hygiene. He says, I have great hygiene. She says, no, you don't. I. OK. I watched this live.

[00:11:58] I could not believe my eyes. I I immediately put out something on Blue Sky and then deleted it later because I didn't like I have thoughts on this, but I was like, is this real? Is this a real thing that somebody would say? I. I know that this is probably not the popular opinion,

[00:12:22] and I'm sorry, everyone, but I've seen a lot of mean things on the Big Brother live feeds. But pointing out that somebody's private area is stinky to their face, knowing that it's being broadcast to the world. It's so mean. I I'm so sorry. I know this is not popular opinion, but that is crazy behavior.

[00:12:50] And it's crazy that, you know, it seems that there is some type of hygiene issue. Like, I understand living in close quarters with someone like that. Absolutely. I just cannot believe that this was something that she felt she emboldened to say, knowing the world was watching.

[00:13:15] I think there are not to go too deep into this, but I do think there are a couple of extenuating circumstances in that number one, she's clearly told him before in a way that was private and he didn't listen. Number two, she's the one cleaning the bathrooms like he's not. You know what I mean? So it's like maybe if he cleaned up after himself a little more, it would be a little less of a thing.

[00:13:41] I do, though, understand the sentiment that like, you know, could this be handled privately? That would be the ideal scenario here. And and, you know. It definitely, you know, what I will say is and the reason I think it's it's worth talking about is that it it really seems to piss Chuck off that this happened in this way. In front of Haley.

[00:14:07] And she said specifically she did it in front of Haley, like so that she would have backup in it. And it just felt like. Like she was in front of Haley, like she was trying to embarrass him into into doing this a little to me, at least that was my read of it. I look. I see already I'm getting jumped in the comments. People don't agree with me. Totally. Totally. I understand where you're coming from. Like, I feel like.

[00:14:37] You know, it does feel like it's not something I think I could ever have done. No. In a million years. I don't care how many I would I would continue to have to. I mean, like, I think I don't know if I would I would have had the guts to do in the first place, but like, no, you know, but certainly it's something I would for sure always want to try to keep as a private matter. Yes. Yes. That's that's all.

[00:15:04] What the thing I will leave you with is Chappell quote tweeted this. It said, I don't know how Chuck didn't turn into dust when she said this. And that's my sentiment, too. Like, and I don't know how you go up to somebody and you don't think that that's not what's going to happen. You know, I I just. I felt. It was very inappropriate.

[00:15:34] And that's all I'll say. All right. Well, I again, it really just I think speaks to the nature of their relationship right now and and what might happen if Chuck does stick around here moving forward. I mean, really, what's going to happen is I am going to cause World War Big Brother. So, yeah, I mean, another reason to keep thog and vote out Chuck this week. Totally.

[00:16:04] Totally. And but OK, and I will say. This harkens back to Big Brother three, right? Living in close quarters with someone's wash your nasty hands like I I get it. This has always been an aspect of Big Brother. It was just brutal to watch. And maybe that's what it is. Maybe what I'm saying is that I just thought it was so brutal because of the nature of what what was going on. But it's my my thoughts.

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[00:18:52] So, Dee's going to talk more with Kamu and Devins. She tries to get a sense of where Kamu stands on the Haley vote. This is when he says Haley leaving is best. She does try to plant more seeds against Taylor and Yash, which of course is what she's been trying to do.

[00:19:16] Um, it's, it's very similar to how she turned Kamu against Drew back, uh, when they did that, uh, where she's just been kind of dropping these seeds and Kamu is recognizing that she's dropping the seeds and is wondering if he should take it seriously. Uh, so he's going to have a conversation with Devins about it later. In the meantime, Taylor and Yash talk about how pleased they are with their position right now.

[00:19:45] Um, they feel like they are, as I said, safely in the middle. They've riled up FAP. They don't know the name, of course. They've riled up FAP to go against the icons. Um, and meanwhile, they have, uh, Kamu and the icons kind of mostly in the palm of their hands in their minds, uh, potentially kind of going after essentially FAP, uh, and that they are the group who is sitting, uh, on, uh, in the middle.

[00:20:15] And that really FAP is almost just as dangerous as the icons. We need to make sure that not all four of them make it to jury. So at least one of them needs to go. So when icon needs to go and a FAP person needs to go, and we're just gonna let them battle it out. Uh, unfortunately for them, that's not quite how things are set up at the moment. Yes, exactly. Um, and also like, this is what happens when you, when the vote is pretty much set for the

[00:20:44] week, you start looking down the road and coming up with your perfect plan of all, if everything goes perfectly for you, what you'll do one, two, three weeks. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, uh, D and Angela also talk for a while, uh, and D really gets into, uh, the idea of what if we kept Haley this week? D has clearly been flirting around with this idea, uh, all day.

[00:21:11] Now the night before she had kind of been flipped back over by Drew's information and Devins was the one who was pushing it, but now Devins is mostly out of this conversation and D is the one pushing the idea. Mm-hmm. Um, D is just really, I think, attracted to the idea of Haley staying means Haley goes after Taylor and Lala. She really hates Taylor and Lala. And it wouldn't, it wouldn't be great if we kept Haley and she went after them.

[00:21:38] Um, now that's a lovely idea in theory, but D has not really talked with Haley about any of this. Doesn't really know where Haley stands. Now I think her idea would be that if they keep Haley, they would, and she mentions, they could just blindside Taylor and Lala again. They could just grab six votes. And then those six people would be the people Haley wants to keep around and protect and go after the people they blindsided.

[00:22:08] But of course, blindsiding them means again, damaging the relationships with Yash, with Taylor, with Lala, activating them, getting them worried about now I need to win HOH. Now we need to go after these people, uh, all kinds of messy things that really, you know, D just loves a mess and she loves being able to clean up the mess and she's been able to clean up the mess. And that just makes her want to make another one. I think that's what I'm saying. It's like playing with your food a little, you know, a hundred percent.

[00:22:38] Um, so we know that keeping Haley is actually probably not that great for D at the moment. Uh, Haley is probably one of the more anti vet, anti D people in the house right now. Now that said, if D led a charge to keep Haley and blinds out to the other side, she probably would be like, okay, thank you. Um, but I don't even know how much she would thank her because the problem is it's not like she's being kept against Barrett.

[00:23:08] She's being kept against Chuck and that's still like, not like, she's not like, oh, I'm doomed against Chuck. Like, uh, like, uh, you know, I need to stay against Chuck. She's been kind of like, uh, you know, me or Chuck leaving is, is, is the loss. Um, so I don't think this is a good plan from D. Uh, but what I will say is again, even though there's a lot of talk here with Angela about it, um, it never comes to fruition throughout the day though.

[00:23:38] It's now Thursday today and she could certainly make something happen like she did last week. It's a survivor timeline, you know? Um, and I do think that she could push the issue. The problem is like Haley is not like Haley will hold a grudge.

[00:24:00] Like she's not going to not go after D I think in this scenario, if it's, if it's against Chuck, like you said, I think if it was Barrett, it would be a different story, but she's not looping Haley in. And she's also going after off the information of like, lot like Haley hates Lala and Taylor. This will be perfect.

[00:24:24] But Haley has been talking about putting D up in the event that she's HOH and D doesn't know this because she hasn't been talking to her at all. Haley and Chuck have just been siloing themselves basically. And thank goodness you are watching those feeds because I can't bring myself to do it, but, uh, they're, they're siloing themselves. So D is going off of kind of bad information in my opinion. Yeah, I agree.

[00:24:50] And I think that, I think she's just, she just wants to do more exciting things. Which love her for that, please. Yeah. I mean, I'm down. Yeah. Uh, another blind side would be quite interesting. Um, so, uh, they also talk D and Angela about D really thinks they need Kamun. And this is another running, uh, through line throughout the week is that, uh, D and Devins have been very pro Kamu ever since they won him back over.

[00:25:19] They really want to keep him around long-term. There's going to be even more conversations about it later. Angela though, less convinced on the Kamu front. Uh, she is not a Kamu fan. She's worried Kamu's coming after her. Uh, and, and just in general is just like, you know, she, I mean, she doesn't have Kamu in the way that D and Devins do. And I think maybe even there's also a bit of it that's like, she understands the danger of Kamu better than Devins and D do.

[00:25:47] Uh, you know, it's, it's very, it's a much more survivor thing right now to use the meat shield strategy and bring somebody like Kamu deep into the game on survivor because he will be the one that people take shots at and he won't be able to protect himself, uh, all the way down until the end. But on big brother, it's very, very different. Uh, even if you don't win every single competition in the end game, the fact that you've won so

[00:26:17] many gives you so much power and, and, you know, influence in the house that even that time that you do lose, you're usually rewarded, uh, for some, with some loyalty for the decisions you've made for the last few weeks. Um, and so that's something that they don't seem to be as cautious of as they should. And Angela is a little more aware of, um, but, uh, but we'll talk more about that as we move forward.

[00:26:47] I'm sure. Mm-hmm. I mean, I, number one goal would be to get rid of Kamu and they're like number one, it's giving like Christian in season 23 where it was like, you know, if he stayed, there's a really good shot. He could have just run those comps towards the end and they made the decision to get rid of him, but yeah. Yeah. Wild. Mm-hmm. Kamu himself, uh, talks to Yash.

[00:27:15] Um, he's up in the, uh, gym. Um, and they talk about, you know, Yash is, uh, as I said, uh, when he talked to Taylor, Yash is now trying to make sure that there's some attention on fat, um, and wanting to have some kind of shot taken at them. So he's trying to sort of like get Kamu to kind of look over at, at them.

[00:27:40] Uh, Hey, maybe if like melody was gone, we could, we could actually loop true in, uh, or like, Hey, Mallory's kind of dangerous. Um, stuff like that. Uh, and then Devins joins the conversation and Devins is interested in kind of prodding Yash for some of this new information that he was brought the night before, which was when Drew and Barrett told Devins about the summit the night before that, uh, where, um,

[00:28:10] Lala led a conversation that was against the icons and that they need to be, they need to go. Oh, particularly Devins needs to go. And that Yash was very much part of that conversation and agreeing with everything being said. And Devins meanwhile, feels like he's got a great relationship with Yash. He's in like three different alliances with him. Uh, and, um, and so he's kind of wondering if he can get this from him. He's like, yeah, I've been hearing that there's some anti icon, uh, sentiment going around.

[00:28:40] Um, and, and Yash, I, I, again, I personally don't think he does great here. Not because, uh, of anything Yash himself like did in particular, like he shouldn't just come out and say everything obviously, but he doesn't know that Devins already knows all of it. So Yash initially is kind of like, yeah, yeah, I've heard about it. I was like, yeah, I heard there was like a conversation about it specifically. Like, oh yeah. Like, like early on in the week, like, no, like recently. Uh, oh, you know what?

[00:29:09] There was a conversation two nights ago. Uh, like who was in that conversation? Um, yeah. So it was like, you know, me and, and Lala and Mallory and Melody and, um, and basically confirming that again, that conversation took place, but very clearly not explaining the details of it in the way that Drew and Barrett did. Um, so, you know, again, should be further confirmation for Devins that this is, this is true. And that this is sketchy information.

[00:29:39] Um, but, uh, but, but he doesn't press too far and he doesn't try to make Yash feel interrogated as much as possible. Uh, they do end up like, Hey, we're locking in though. Um, you know, we've got the wolf pack, but it's really like the three of us. Cause we've also got this thing going on with Taylor now. Uh, so the three of us were like in the middle of these two other things with the Bermuda triangle. And they go like this and hold their arms out to make a big triangle.

[00:30:09] And yeah, the Bermuda triangle where you, you're so scared to go anywhere near there because you disappear. They're triangulating their position in between all of the alliances. I also think that it's really hard. Like Yash, I agree with you. Like just went badly for Yash because he had to be prompted to give the information up.

[00:30:36] He gave it up, but like that should give you alarm bells. If you're Yash immediately of like someone ratted, what is happening here? He's doesn't trust me. You know what I mean? Like that immediately is where your mind should be going. Um, and you know, I think we're, we're not quite there yet with, with Yash in the, the day I would say.

[00:31:06] Yeah. Um, so Melody joins the conversation. Uh, and then this clip has been going around that they obviously stop really talking game and they start talking about having babies. Um, because just to be clear, cause you know, obviously I'm not covering like every minor conversation about relationships and stuff, but like, you know, this is a house generally

[00:31:33] that's like pretty weird about relationships and especially Kamu. Uh, and sometimes Yash, we've talked a little bit about it before, but like, you know, just they, they have lots of opinions about the way that relationships should be. Um, and, uh, and so they're talking about having babies and they're like, start, Hey, if you're

[00:31:58] interested in having a baby with us, send us some baby emotes or whatever. Uh, and, um, and then, uh, Kamu makes a joke that's like, uh, Oh, and, and, and, and melody too. Uh, what will get you pregnant, whether you like it or not. Um, and she's like, not actually, please.

[00:32:22] She's literally just trying to be on the, the, uh, not the treadmill, whatever the like running thing is. I, it's insane. It's completely insane. I don't have any, anything else to say. It's just insane. And she's like, she genuinely, she just wanted to work out. Like she just trying to get into that gym, but like there've been people that she doesn't like in there this whole day. And so she's, she's, that's been a whole thing for her in the day.

[00:32:53] It's crazy. I, she literally is like, she's also really not even like, ha ha not. She's like, ha ha not like leave me alone. Basically it's wild. Wild. Yeah. Um, so melody leaves. Yash leaves. It's just Devin's and Kamu now. Uh, and Kamu again, same thing that happened with drew when people were trying to turn Kamu

[00:33:21] against drew Kamu goes to Devin's and he says, Devin's, how do you, how do you feel about Taylor? Because I feel like D doesn't really like Taylor. Uh, and you know, I'm like, how do you feel about Taylor? And Devin's at this point, um, is kind of like, I'm fine. Like, like, I, I, I'm not part of that. Uh, like, let me be on the other side of this issue. He does not press the issue on Taylor.

[00:33:49] Um, I, cause Devin's again, he's hearing all of this information. He clearly doesn't like it and he wants to change it. He's not like, I'm hearing this information. Therefore I'm going to pivot. Uh, like he eventually did with drew. He's like, I'm hearing this information and I need to change the information so that I don't have to pivot because I still want to target true and melody in them.

[00:34:16] Um, so, uh, so he's trying to continue to like change their minds. Right. Uh, that's, that's my read on it at least. Um, so Devin's is like, uh, like I feel fine. I also think that like, you know, Matt brought this up on the round table, like the crushes thing. Like, I think that Kamu likes Taylor as a person and maybe there's, you know, some buzzing, something buzzing around there more than he ever did with like drew, you know?

[00:34:46] Um, so I think that he feels more incentive to be like, no, no, no, no. Like let's keep Taylor around. Cause he likes hanging out with her more. And like, yeah. Yeah. And, and I think to be fair to Devin's here too, even if it's not fully this interpretation that I'm giving, it's also that Devin's has less, uh, ground to stand on to criticize Taylor and Yash. Um, like D is saying, Hey, Taylor and Yash are really, really tight.

[00:35:15] I'm not sure we can trust the both of them worried about what Taylor is saying about whatever. Uh, but with Devin's like, he's, he's not only in the, he's in like the primaries with them, but like the primaries was originally just him, Taylor and Kamu. And then they brought Yash in on their suggestion. So like to say, I'm worried Taylor and Yash are really tight, like doesn't make as much sense from what Devin's has been doing.

[00:35:42] Um, so, uh, either way, uh, Devin's, uh, talks about this and, and Kamu says something here that I think is there's, there's, there's two, two examples I want to talk about with Kamu's game that I think are really telling for why he's so effective in the house at this moment. Right. One is last night on the episode where we watched it happen. Uh, Angela confesses to Haley, Angela confesses to Chuck.

[00:36:10] They're both mad and disappointed and they're both on the block. Then she confesses to Kamu who's not on the block. And he says, Oh my God, it's totally okay. Angela. And he hugs her and he says, this is great for me, uh, in the diary room. And that approach compared to the approach of those other two is very obviously telling as to why he's so much better at the game than those other two.

[00:36:36] There's another thing happening though, here on the live feeds, when talking to Devin's about Taylor and D he says to Devin's, listen, we need to protect D and Taylor from each other. And I'm just like, yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's how, that's how the game works. That's how you do well in the game is that you take two people who you are aligned with

[00:37:03] and you make sure that they like each other as much as they, as, as possible. Uh, if they are not liking each other very much, you, you protect them from each other. So you don't end up losing one of them or sketching one of them out so much that you get iced out. This is just, this is, this is fundamental, but, uh, something that's not everyone in this game is doing very well. Mm-hmm.

[00:37:31] And yeah, I mean, like looking to bear it, you know, like, why are we sowing like seeds within the people that we're working with? Let's start by moving outward and we move inward as time goes on, you know? Mm-hmm. So, um, Devin's asks Kamu, he, he talks more to Kamu about more in detail about this thing he's been hearing that Lala is talking about coming after him.

[00:37:58] Kamu's like, oh, I hadn't, I hadn't heard about that, which is actually kind of true. Kamu was not in that conversation. Uh, and they've actually been weirdly careful, uh, talking about the, the anti vet stuff with Kamu. Um, and so, uh, Kamu's like, I know that, and I think Kamu in this conversation is still lying in the sense that he is hiding his own involvement when in the early portion of the week.

[00:38:23] So he actually thinks that Devin's is referring to like the early portion of the week where, uh, Lala was deciding who to nominate. And Kamu had, uh, pitched De and Angela. Um, and so he's like, oh yeah, I hadn't heard anything about that. Like toward the beginning of the week. He's like, no, actually recently. I was like, oh, recently. Yeah, I really don't know about that.

[00:38:44] Um, and, uh, and so, you know, Kamu's trying to, um, you know, he's, he's hearing about this. Uh, he explains what happened at the beginning of the week, leaving out the pitching of Angela and Dee part. Um, and that, uh, he, he doesn't think that there's anything too much to worry about there. Uh, and then Dee ends up coming in and sort of interrupting the conversation.

[00:39:09] Uh, and they talk a little bit, um, again, Dee asking once more. So we're, we're set on the Haley thing and Kamu saying, I, yeah, I just think that like not rocking the boat here makes sense. Uh, and she's, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Mm-hmm. Totally. Uh, so we'll see if what, what she pulls later today before the vote, if there is going to be any change, but yeah.

[00:39:37] In the meantime, Angela's going to do something very similar with Lala, uh, as she uses the information she has to try to pull information out of Lala. And, uh, and, and she pulls like all of the information. It's just like all, all come spilling out. Um, she gets details on Lala's deal with Kamu for why she didn't nominate him. She gets, uh, she talks about being worried about Kamu and Lala says, oh, don't worry. Kamu owes me.

[00:40:05] So I'll make sure he protects you. Um, and, uh, totally. That's how it works. And yeah. And Angela is at Angela asks about like, were there like, were there any conversations that you've been having? Like with the, the icon stuff. And she asks about like drew and, uh, Lala's like, yeah, I did. I tell, I I've told him before, like, I'll kill him if, if information we talk about leaks. She's like, what information? Um, and she's like, oh, just, you know, that I was going to nominate him.

[00:40:35] Uh, and, and then Angela's like, but hasn't there been some conversations about putting the icons up? Um, who's been talking about that? And Lala's like, oh, everyone. Oh, but it's not, it's not you though. Just Dee and Devin's, um, and like, oh boy. And it's like, you've been making sure that I'm out of it. Right. And Lala's like, yes, I've told them not Angela. It's so wild.

[00:41:05] It's so wild. It's like Angela's left alone or Lala's left alone and things go haywire. Yeah. Um, so, uh, not that Angela like needed any of this confirmation necessarily, but she certainly now has it. Um, Drew, uh, meanwhile talks to Yash. Um, he's just, I think a little bit worried about where Yash stands right now.

[00:41:34] Um, and Yash of course is a little bit worried about where Fab stands. Um, and they haven't really talked much since Yash tried to get Drew voted out. Um, Drew or Melody. Um, so Drew is just trying to be like, Hey, I'm, I'm not a, I'm not like in a locked in pair with Melody. Just see, I like, I don't want people to think that that's not a thing. I'm open. My door is open. Literally.

[00:42:02] Earlier in the day they were in the bathroom and Drew was like laying with his head essentially in her lap, looking up at her. And she was like curled around him. And they're just like in the bathroom while people are walking in and out in that position. And they are not in a locked in pair. Let me tell you, they are not. No, he's open. Very open. Very open.

[00:42:26] Um, so, Hey, we should secretly continue to work together, you know, like how we used to. Uh, yeah, for sure. I'm totally, I'm totally into it. Um, I do think, I do think that Yash believes what he told, uh, Kamu, which is that if Melody goes, then, then they can maybe work true. Uh, and, and the reality is that's actually worst case scenario for Yash and Kamu.

[00:42:56] If Melody goes, Drew is just a full on vet pawn. Um, that Melody being there is the only thing that gives Drew even a chance of not just being a tool for them. So, uh, that's really the last thing that they should want is for Melody to go. And I do think that like Melody, yeah, Yash voted her out. She does not like that, but she likes Yash as a person more than she likes Kamu.

[00:43:24] You know, like her and Yash get along well, like they joke around. And I think that if he were to get rid of Drew and keep Melody, there is a long-term chance that Yash could reel her in. Like, I think that it's the complete opposite of what he's thinking right now. Yeah, but one of them's a bro. You're so right. How could I forget Melody is a female? How could I forget? Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate.

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[00:46:15] Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. D, okay, so this is where things get really messy here. And not all of this is like on the feeds, which is quite annoying. Yes. But at some point in the night, D has... Sorry, to reset this story.

[00:46:40] We were very frustrated when Drew and Barrett leaked the FAP name to Devin's, D, and Angela. And in the process of doing so, Drew, while I think having good intentions of being like, they're not planning to nominate you at all. Because Barrett had already prompted it by saying, yeah, the only thing to worry about is Mallory because you nominated her. Drew trying to kind of like contain that by saying, oh, but she wouldn't nominate you.

[00:47:08] If anything, it would be like maybe a backdoor because we don't have many options. He didn't say backdoor. He said, sorry, sorry. Replacement. Yeah. Replacement nominee. Because we don't have many options. And D was like, what? Yeah. And then when they then tried to reverse course and they ratted up the summit the day after and things were going really well. And Drew in particular was like, yeah, they are totally down to work with you guys. They wouldn't nominate you.

[00:47:38] D was like, what happened to me being a replacement nominee? And Drew was like, what? Like he didn't even remember saying it. Uh, because he thought it was not a big deal. Um, and she was like, you said that Mallory would nominate me as a replacement. He's like, oh no, I don't think she would. Um, and, uh, but the D has still been thinking about this and. Cause she's a winner and she like, like she's one survivor and she's an amazing player. Of course. That's what you think about, you know?

[00:48:06] And so at some point in the night, she goes to Mallory and asks her about this directly. Uh, and basically seemingly says like, Hey, Drew told me that you might put me up as a replacement. And I think it was in the course of like, Hey, we're working together further conversations about like, let's team up against the other players. Like they had been talking about. Um, but my only hang up is that Drew told me you might put me up as a replacement or something along those lines.

[00:48:34] Uh, and, and Mallory had to play it off. I'm sure. Well, we know this because Mallory then talks to Melody and she's like, how the hell, why, what is Drew doing? And telling D that I'm going to put her up as a replacement nominee. And Mal, Melody's like, he did what? Like, is it because. Is that why they came to work with us? Cause like Drew was saying that and they were like, Oh, well let's then work with them so that Mallory doesn't do that.

[00:49:02] Uh, and like, why is Drew telling them this? Like Drew is, is he just closer to the vets than with us? Like we can't tell him things apparently. Ding, ding, ding. Uh, yeah. Yeah. And Mallory is really upset about this. And I guess in that conversation, D told her like Barrett was there. You can ask Barrett what was said. Also crazy to say by D.

[00:49:29] Um, and you see Mallory being like, well, I have to talk to Barrett to know exactly what was said before I talked to Drew. This is, I mean, obviously this is Drew and Barrett kind of like sitting in their own mess. Yes. Uh, but this is also quite messy from D. Really bad. In my opinion. Yeah. She's doing this to try to sow discord amongst FAP, which is working right now.

[00:49:58] But like, it came directly from her. And I can't like, I mean, listen, she's been able to just like do whatever she wants to Barrett and Drew. And they keep coming back. And so they probably will keep coming back. But like, this was particularly messy because Mallory does go to Barrett and she asks him about the, this whole situation. She's like, yeah, Drew said this. Apparently you were there. Uh, and Barrett's like, I don't remember.

[00:50:28] I don't remember that. I don't remember that being a thing. I don't remember being there. Um, and she's like, okay, I trust you. Yeah. Just like you weren't up in that room with the Rome thing. Right. Uh huh. Um, and she's like, okay, I trust you. And, uh, and so then he goes and he talks to Drew about, he's like, apparently D told Mallory that you said that Mallory would put her up as a replacement nominee. And Drew's like, what the hell? Why would D do that?

[00:50:55] Uh, and so like, it's, it's messy stuff. We don't get a resolution to it last night because this all took place pretty late. Um, but. What I didn't like. What, what was bothering me about this is that when Barrett went to Drew and was. They were talking about it. Drew wasn't like. Why would he do this? Is she trying to sow discord within that?

[00:51:22] Like, is she, he was just like, why can't she be normal? Like, just be normal. And I'm like, Drew, come on. Like, this is D playing. Like, this is not a slip up. Like, open your eyes. This is D we're talking about. Like, she's a survivor legend. She's. Why else would she do that? It's not because she can't be normal. It's because she's playing. And it's a hundred percent.

[00:51:50] Like what I believe she plans to do, which is like, if Drew talks to her about this, she's going to be like, Oh, I messed up. I'm so sorry. Oh, my heart is racing right now. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to. Um, and he's going to be like, ah, D. D. Crazy. And I do think he'll probably be able to wriggle out of it a little with Mallory and say like, no, D was because he was saying to Barrett, he's like, no, I I'll just tell

[00:52:17] her that like D was asking if you would ever put her up because she feels like it. And I would say, no, you would never put her up unless like she needed a renom or something. And I do think that Mallory will be more okay with that. But like poor Mallory, she's dealt with now lyric hearing from people in power that lyrics writing her out that drew is writing her out. Like this is like poor Mal, you know, it for sure must have triggered the lyric thing because it's like, Oh, this is exactly what happened with lyric.

[00:52:46] Uh, but yeah, Drew does plan to talk to Mallory about this. Um, I agree. I think it'll mostly get smoothed over. I don't think it's a big enough deal to have a significant impact. Uh, because at the end of the day, like where else is Mallory going? Like this is exactly what melody said to her. Right. Like who else do we have? Like, uh, there's kind of stuff.

[00:53:14] It just means they need to be a little more careful with the information they gave Drew, which means also that Drew is going to have less valuable stuff to rat out to D and, and Devin's, which again is just kind of messy work by D here, in my opinion. Totally. But I mean, that's, that's exactly what happened at the beginning when they, that first conversation that drew had with Angela and Devin's, we were on this update and Devin's was like, Oh

[00:53:41] my God, this is amazing that they want to tell you all of this, Drew. This is so valuable. And then Angela and D decided that they didn't like it. And like the, I don't know why they can't see the value that is here with Drew because probably because they're overestimating him as a player. Like at this point, Drew is just completely in the vet's pocket.

[00:54:03] And my, also my big issue with this is that Barrett seemingly like there, there was also seemingly something that happened where like Barrett kind of ratted out Drew saying something a couple of weeks ago to D again, this wasn't really on feeds, but it was like, and I am rooting for Barrett because he's a fan and I really want him to do well. And I am into him being the rat floater.

[00:54:31] Like if that's the game he wants to play, let's go. I need him to float. I need him to actually float. Exactly. He has no relationship with the other side at all. And he's only ratting out people within his alliance. And Barrett needs Drew in the game so badly because once Drew is gone, guess who's going to be in that Drew position? Guess who's the person that will hit the block when they need an extra pawn or like he's going

[00:55:00] to be like Barrett needs to keep Drew in as long as possible because he and Drew are in the same position and Drew is a much bigger target than him. And like Barrett cannot be giving up Drew on a silver platter like this to these vets. Like he cannot be doing that. He can't. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing, too, about the what D has done here, I think, is is that she's also

[00:55:29] like she's weakening Drew and Barrett's influence on Mallory and Melody, which is the last thing she wants because they have been actively influencing them to not nominate the vets as much as possible. And in in the day we're talking about Mallory was talking to Melody about D as a potential third nom that she'd probably have to talk to D about it. And this is the kind of thing that if they did talk to Drew and Barrett about this idea,

[00:55:57] Drew and Barrett would talk them down. But now they're concerned that Drew and Barrett are too close to D and the vets and. They might not take their advice. Oh, of course, you're going to say that you're really close. You're ratting us out to them. But it's just it's just it's just mess. Yes. Mallory also does have a conversation with Kamu and and basically just tries to clear the air a little bit, basically just using Lyric as a scapegoat as much as possible.

[00:56:27] Like anything you've ever heard about me coming after you is all Lyric's fault. And Kamu says vice versa. We it's Lyric who freely got in between us. We are not targeting each other whatsoever. And of course, they're both lying. Totally. Classic classic. Classic person's out of the house. They're the scapegoat now for everything that's ever happened. That's ever gone wrong between a between a pair of people. Yes. D talks a little more with Angela.

[00:56:57] She's actually starting to feel like she might want Yash to go before Taylor. So maybe like Yash, then Taylor. But who knows? But the point is Yash has really plummeted here in terms of positioning with the vets. She does, again, mention she wants to keep Kamu around to take that shot at FAP later on in the game.

[00:57:23] Which is, I would say, not a huge concern for FAP right now. But if Kamu were to win an HOH, that is probably where he is looking at. Obviously, he's not going to take the shot at Lala or Taylor yet unless they can really make some work happen. And I don't think they, and this is kind of the point, I don't think they care enough to make the work happen to make him take that shot at Yash, Taylor, or Lala yet. I think they'd be like, if he's going to take a shot at FAP, whatever, we'll take a shot at Taylor and Yash next week.

[00:57:54] So, worth noting there. Definitely. We also get a relatively brief reconciliation between Haley and Angela that they've both kind of been debating if they even want to bother all day long. We've talked about how this is probably a necessary component to Haley staying. I actually don't think it's super necessary given that Dee was seemingly able to convince Angela.

[00:58:22] To keep Haley around earlier in the morning, even though that plan hasn't come to fruition yet. But if Angela was actively pushing for it, I think this would be much more likely to happen. And so it's like a little bit of a reconciliation, but it's pretty surface level, at least I think on Haley's end. And Angela did sort of have a little bit more emotion there, but she also barely wanted to do it. So. It was really just kind of like, okay, we did it. It's fine. I checked that box.

[00:58:52] Yeah. You know, it was not. For the sake of doing it. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was not. It's not like if Haley wins a joint, she's not. She's going to be like, well, I love Angela now. We had that great conversation and reconciled. Like, absolutely not. Yes. Okay. That's about what I've got. Maggie, anything else you wanted to bring up? We're not going to talk about the plane? Mallory? Listen, I talked about the bus, you know. I know. Oh, she's so fun though.

[00:59:19] The plane is good, but it was just, it was just more of the bus. You know what I mean? Totally. And they did it for so long. But like more people got, got involved this time. Yes. And like, even D went down and asked Haley and Chuck to come up. And funniest part to me of the whole thing, like, is that everybody really was into it and playing pretend and like really down for it, except for like Haley and Chuck.

[00:59:48] Even at one point, Yash like grabbed Chuck's hat and pretended to barf in it. And Chuck immediately like grabbed it back and put it on his head and was like, like they were just not like, it's team no fun over there. But yeah, I, I mean, I think that Mallory has said coming in, like, I love throwing parties. I love doing things like this. And we saw it with the tea party. We're seeing it with this. They've been stuck inside now for many days.

[01:00:18] So they're just like so bored and looking for anything to do and looking to get out all of this energy. And I just think, I don't know. I think that there's something really fun about all of these adults, like sitting together, just fully playing pretend and doing these ridiculous scenarios. I think it's cute. It is cute. It is cute. And, you know, it's, I just, I've, I've had my fill personally.

[01:00:47] I feel like I was, I genuinely enjoyed it. But I'm, I'm ready for, for something new. I don't think that that's going to happen again. That would be my guess that we're going to get a new HOH tonight and then things will switch around. It's just, they're bored. They're inside. There's nothing else to do. And, you know, last night it was like most of the fun people and like, but they were missing a couple of the fun. I say most of the fun people, like the only people who aren't fun are Haley and Chuck.

[01:01:17] But like last night they had, it started with like FAP and then kind of like Dee and Angela joined in and like Yash. But this, tonight they also got, or last night they got Lala and Taylor. It was more a house thing rather than just like something that kind of happened naturally where people would come up to the bus and leave, et cetera. I think that it's fun. Yes. All right. Anything else to talk about Maggie?

[01:01:42] Well, also I do just want to point out that like, look, I'm a Drew-elody, whatever it is, truther. I love them so much. Mella Drew? And Mella Drew, whatever it is. And, you know, Melody was like, are you kidding me about Drew? You know, telling that thing about Mallory. And she was very upset in the moment. And then like later in the night, he's giving her a piggyback ride around the house. And they're like, you know, it just, it's.

[01:02:12] It just all that to say, like, it's not like their relationship has been permanently damaged at this point by, by that notion. Yeah. I mean, they've caught Drew doing worse. Yes. All right. That's what we have for you then today. Of course, I'll be back tomorrow morning at noon Eastern for tomorrow's update, where I will talk about everything that happens today, which might still include a last minute blindside vote flip. Who knows?

[01:02:39] And some H-O-H results, some new plans for the week, I would hope. So plenty to go there. We'll also have an exit interview from the evicted player this week. And tonight I'll be live on Patreon, Twitch and YouTube. Watching tonight's eviction episode will be on the podcast afterward as well. So stay tuned for all of it. Maggie, what do you got going on? I'm watching these feeds. I'm loving the feeds. I'm in the blue sky streets, ML Morgan.

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