BB28 Thursday Eviction Ep Recap, Week 5

[00:00:07] Hello everyone and welcome to Rob Has a Podcast. I'm Rob Sesternino here tonight to recap the eviction episode of Big Brother 28. I have a very special guest or two, perhaps, eventually. It's Rachel. How you doing, Rachel? Hi, Taryn. I missed you. We haven't talked since our four-hour discussion. Is that how long it's been?

[00:00:35] We did advise some players on how to win Big Brother. That's right. That's true. That's true. I don't know if they listened, though. They absolutely didn't. Unless they are all kissing up to the, I did say like play to their egos and they all are kissing up to the icons. So maybe they did listen. Maybe they did watch and listen. Drew is a fan. Yes, maybe Taylor did as well. This is Big Brother for dummies.

[00:01:00] That was such a good quote. I mean, this episode was such a classic Big Brother episode and Wednesday's episode too. I really love how they're leaning into the ridiculousness of it, but also still playing off of the gameplay. And like, it's really been a fun, I think it's been a fun season.

[00:01:21] It has, yes. Unfortunately, Rob couldn't be with us. He was busy tonight just hoping for Haley to win. But luckily, we do have a soundbite of him reacting to Haley's blockbuster win. Haley and win this competition! You have won and you are now officially off the block.

[00:01:49] Wait, was that Chuck's reaction? I thought it was Chuck's reaction at first, but going back to watch the clip, I'm pretty sure it's actually somebody from the audience. Oh, okay, okay. Screaming their heads off. Screaming their heads off often. Which, you know, I have to imagine that if not Rob in voice, it was Rob in spirit. Oh, 100%. It may have been Jerry in voice. That's true. We'll have to wait. Yeah. Wait, did you see Rob's?

[00:02:19] Obviously, you saw his video with the thog song. Yes. He may have tested this. He did. And I think it's a good call too. I'm glad Haley's still there. So, I think the discussion was, if Haley stays, does everyone still target Haley? Is Haley still going to be this big personality in the house? Does she have anyone to work with? So, a lot of people were saying they wanted Haley to go so that the icons would get targeted.

[00:02:48] But I disagree because I think that having Haley there brings so much extra layers to every episode and every, like, the dynamics of the house. Yeah, of course, she'll still be targeted. But, like, I think it's interesting because are you going to continuously just target Haley now? Is that what's going to happen? Like, I feel like that's, you know, if that does happen, I mean, we might all start rooting for Haley, which is something I never thought I would say.

[00:03:19] Listen, we talked about could Haley become the Keanu of the season? I mean, actually, right? And, like, that's crazy to think. But Haley, look, she's playing a better game. She understands what's going on a little more. So, yes. Rachel, I do think we have to get one thing out of the way here.

[00:03:46] Obviously, a lot of people watched you get pushed into a volcano by a velociraptor. Maybe they're not unlocked watchers. Maybe they're just curious about how it feels to be burned alive in a volcano. Are you feeling okay? Taryn, you know, thank you for asking. It's been something weighing on my chest for a few weeks. You know, I do feel okay. It's really hard to get burned alive.

[00:04:15] And you just become this, like, skeleton of a human, right? Like, it's a shell of a human with a wig, a beautiful wig that, of course, outlasts everything as it should. But, you know, thankfully, there's time travel. And I'm still alive in the Big Brother time travel world. In my head, I'm being teleported to another part of the Paramount Plus reality TV family. You never know, you know?

[00:04:44] Have you seen the image we used for the updates? Oh, my God. It's amazing. Yes. Yeah, of course. And I love that you're, like, one of the only sites that actually still has that as me as one of the players. Because I'm like, I was a house guest. First one evicted. Yeah, exactly. You were literally evicted. I was actually evicted in 1885 or something. Or not 18. It was, what was it?

[00:05:12] Like, B.C.? Yeah, I don't even know. It had to have been, right? It was the Egyptian times, I think. Something like that. Egypt. Some medieval, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. So, let's talk about what happened here tonight. It was a pretty, I think, straightforward episode. There was actually a lot of intrigue coming into it. If Barrett had won the blockbuster, the target was supposed to be Hayley.

[00:05:41] So, theoretically, she saved herself by winning the blockbuster. But, in reality, D gets real bored in that house. And she had, in the same way she did last week, flipped the vote just today, just a few hours ago, to blindside parts of the house, particularly Lala and Taylor, by keeping Hayley over Chuck. Unfortunately, Barrett did not win the blockbuster. And so, we did not get to see that.

[00:06:11] But, you know, it is what it is. Well, so my question is, do we think, because they actually did cover this in the episode tonight. So, do we think that the idea did pop up before Dee had this idea today? Because we obviously saw Dee on the live feeds, like, totally pushing for it. But do we think other people also, because the way they edited it is to make us think that, like, Devin's had the idea.

[00:06:40] And maybe Barrett had the idea. You know, Drew had the idea. So, it was kind of like, or Mallory, whatever. So, it was kind of like, whose idea was it first, is what I'm wondering. Yeah, my theory is that they edited the show because there were a bunch of different people, including Mallory, as we saw. Devin's was a huge proponent of it. A lot of different people thought, maybe we keep Hayley. But none of it actually stuck.

[00:07:08] So, my theory is that they edited the episode to be like, ooh, look at all this great misdirection we have for the vote. But then Dee actually went and flipped it. So, it now just looks very straightforward. Right. And that's, I wondered that too. Because then I was like, does that, because you know when they edit it like that, it is always misdirection. Right. Yeah.

[00:07:29] But yes, in terms of like, Devin's had the thought, Mallory had the thought, Melody, Drew had been kind of against it and had pushed back. It's actually in the episode they show that when Drew and Barrett rat out Lala at the summit talking about the vets, that this is kind of the idea for Dee that she's like, oh, maybe I need to keep Hayley around to go after them. And in reality, she had already wanted Hayley to stay.

[00:07:56] And actually, the ratting out of Lala changed her mind briefly. Yeah. Before she came back to the idea the next day. But, you know, it kind of makes sense to kind of tack it all into it like this. I wouldn't be surprised if we get another, you know, segment on Sunday that kind of goes back and says, hey, they were about to do this. Especially because, very relevantly, they were planning to bring Kamu in on this vote flip and still leave Lala and Taylor out.

[00:08:26] And so he may know this now that they were planning to flip, even though it didn't happen. And that could be maybe interesting. That would be really interesting because I wonder how he would take being deceived again by them. Right. Like this week, they've all been buddy, buddy. And now everything can change. I also I would love to see a Hayley H.O.H., which I know, like, listen, I don't it's not that I really want to.

[00:08:55] It's just that, like, it would make for like some interesting television. And I feel like that could be something that like I'm not sure if she would target. I feel like she would target Kamu. And then is she also going to target like maybe Devon's and probably not? Well, I don't know. Angela is such a toss up. Like she fought with her, but was she target her or is she going to target D?

[00:09:21] Yeah. So, I mean, Angela tried to make up with Hayley as much as possible. She saw it at the end of the episode that Angela was like, hey, look, they were cheering for you. It's like, no, that was just Jerry. But but yeah, it'll be I think the interesting thing about a potential Hayley H.O.H. is that it really could go anywhere. She has so many targets and so few friends that like who really knows where it goes. And that's you know, that's not quite what D wanted.

[00:09:50] D wanted her to be a targeted strike at Taylor and Lala. But I'm not sure that Hayley is exactly what she thought she was. So it'll be really interesting to see where Hayley falls, especially if she does win power. But we also had we had some other things that were interesting in this episode. Obviously, a lot of this Hayley stuff. A lot of, you know, Chuck. Chuck made a lot of promises to us. I am going to cause World War Big Brother.

[00:10:19] And then tonight he says, truly, everyone in this house must pay for their sins. I loved it. He's so dramatic with it, too. I also wonder, like, is this the Chuck that we just haven't seen? Or is this just Chuck, you know, maybe he's in the DR saying these things the whole time and they just don't play them for us? Because they're like, like literally this guy in the house doesn't say anything. You know what I mean?

[00:10:48] And it's just to me, it's it's like I love the sins soundbite because it's like thunder and lightning in the background. It's like I'm telling you it like this is what it's supposed to be. Like, I'm telling it's time for them to pay for their sins. But instead, it's Chuck and Chuck GPT. And so he's like they they will pay for their sins. They will. Truly, everyone in this house must pay for their sins.

[00:11:17] No emotion behind it. Yes, I love it. Oh, God, you really gave us. You know what? Chuck did not give us much in the house, but he did give me a lot in his diary rooms. You know, it's time. Her face is so poker. You pay for your sins. He says, I am like buffooned. I am buffooned. He's fed me for days. Yeah, I mean, he did.

[00:11:45] I listen, Chuck was not really doing a lot in the alliance or in the house. But yeah, when we finally saw him in episode four, I think it was episode week four. I'm sorry. Not episode four. Week four. We were like, oh, this guy's here. You know. That is exactly what we thought. That is exactly what we thought. I think actually the first thought was, who's that?

[00:12:15] Yes, exactly. He was your house guest the whole time. That was his strategy. Yeah. Lay low. Lay low. It's working for Barrett. Although, okay. I do have a question about the rat Barrett. Okay. I, Bear Rat. Yes. I am surprised that Bear Rat, as being a super fan of Big Brother, would call himself a rat like that.

[00:12:41] Like, to be honest, I, and I don't think he, I mean, he's not playing the ratiest game. He's, his game's a little questionable. I think that, that Barrett has been on these BB streets for a long time. Yeah. And I think, I think he knows more than anyone how the audience might be reacting to his gameplay and what kind of nicknames they might be making up for him. Okay. I see that. Yes. That makes sense. Yeah.

[00:13:10] I mean, and I guess it's like, if he knows that, wouldn't you think he would be the main one that would want to work with the newbies over the icons? Look who's here. It's Brendan. We are friendly. 100%. Yeah. Brendan shows up week four as well. Yeah. It's Brendan time. Yeah. It's Brendan time. Oh, Chuck. Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. Chuck. Okay.

[00:13:39] Also, we loved Julie roasting him, but I don't want to go everything out of order. Sorry. No, no worries. There's not a huge order here tonight. We're just kind of chit chatting. Brendan, how are you doing? Good. Yeah. You know, I'm just doing all the parental stuff. Rachel has all the fun, typical big brother, you know, stuff. Typical. Yes. Yeah. I've been pretty good. It's a lot better having two parents at the house this year than one. I noticed that. Yeah.

[00:14:09] And what was it like to have your wife travel through time? I think that's what it's going to do. I don't know. Is she still in time or is this my wife? Are you her? I don't know. Or is this a paradox? Yeah. It's a hologram. What if a different universe's Rachel came and replaced your Rachel? I like that. I tasted her cooking. This is definitely my wife. Oh, my gosh. I'm not a bad cook. I mean, I was on board.

[00:14:42] What did you think of the episode, Brendan? Were you happy to see Hayley win the blockbuster? I was. You know, to be honest with you, on the way over to watch the episode tonight, Rachel was on the phone with Jimmy and whoever. And everyone kept saying they were like, oh, Hayley this, Hayley that. I was like, the more people complain about Hayley, the more I want her to stay. Yeah. A lot of people. I was surprised by the alumni reaction, especially in chat BCC, that everybody was really wanting

[00:15:08] Hayley to go home because I felt like I felt like she gives us so much. Like, I'm kind of team keeper around. And she's a really good villain. Like, she's a really good villain. She's really like she's winning competitions. She's in the middle of all the drama. Now she has like two rivals. I think it could be I mean, it's going to be very interesting to see her in there. Also, do we think she's going to go after Kamu?

[00:15:38] Like, I kind of think she will. Like, I think that's the first thing. She's going to try to get power. Then I think she's going to talk like fight with him about it. I think I mean, listen, you can't ever underestimate the power of a crush. That's true. I think if if Kamu. I feel like there's an 80s song coming on right now. I don't know which one, but there's definitely one out there. There's some flirting happening.

[00:16:06] That's an interesting flirting, you know. Whoa! Come on! It was? Moving on. That was so good. I mean, it was kind of funny because I legitimately was just trying to be quirky and funny and like, you know, off. Shout out Mallory. Yeah, just being funny and different. But then I think, yeah, Julie ran with it like, Julie, I think you did not pick up on

[00:16:33] the right vibes because I don't I didn't know. Taryn would know out of anyone. Barrett is not interested in Mallory as far as you understand, right? It does not appear to be so. No, because the only thing I ever heard about Barrett was D was like there was something for a minute. Yeah, he's got a little bit of a cuddly thing going on with D. He cuddles many people. There was some very initial talk like in the first week about like, does Mallory have a crush on Barrett?

[00:17:03] Does he reciprocate? But but it's been very platonic for a very long time at this point. Yeah, I think I think they talk a lot and they hang out a lot. So maybe it's like an inside joke kind of thing. But I don't know. Julie just kind of like blew up a fake spot. Yeah, she like she went off script. That's what it was. The rest of her lines tonight were totally scripted. That was off script.

[00:17:32] Yeah, they're going to be like Barrett and Mallory. Like, yeah, the producers in the back like, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Yeah. Julie, how did you discover this? We didn't notice. Yeah, it's Julie trying to like be the Andrew of the season and call out Hayden and Kristen. Oh, hey, look at that throwback. Yeah. Taron, the OG.

[00:18:02] So that was just that. And I am assuming because you guys got this, too, because I was assuming she was talking about the Mallory shout out. There were some people in my chat tonight that were like, maybe she was thinking that he was flirting with her. But but I also thought she was talking about Mallory there for sure. I thought she was talking about Mallory. I think so. And I thought it made sense when she said it, because when Barrett said shouting out Mallory from Big Brother 28, I was like, is he flirting with her? Like, what's this all?

[00:18:32] I took it as. That's what I took it as. I took it as Barrett trying to be quirky Barrett. Like, hey, I've watched the show long enough. I know how many people do shout outs. I think it'd be funny to shout out somebody who's here. Oh. Right. I think he was just trying to be quirky and funny. So the only reason being is because he did light up like a like a like a Christmas tree when Julie called him out, because all of a sudden then he actually got like, yeah. Well, he did. Yes.

[00:18:59] But was he interested in their Adam and Eve costume? That's the real question. I mean, it's a that is a as a long time over very little people in the house. Yeah, perhaps. So not to say that probably did not, you know, yeah, affect something. I do think if if if Drew had done that shout out to Melody, I think that everyone would have been swooning over that. Oh, I would have died. Yes. We would have all lived for it.

[00:19:28] I would literally it would. I would have been talking about it on chat. BCC on it. Like it's literally OK. I'm I'm one of those people that my algorithm on TikTok is feeding me all the what do we call them? And Drudely. Melodrew. Melodrew. That's right. The Melodrew content. And I like eat it up. So I do love that. I love their little showmance.

[00:19:53] There was a little knife in the in the backs of the Melodrewthers tonight with Melody's shout outs. It's further further damage done to the Melodrewthers. I know. But we're just going to ignore that. Yeah. We're going to ignore it. And I also loved when the camera zoomed in on when Haley stayed on Melody's or Melody's face. That was amazing. Yeah, she was not pleased. Which is funny because she was in on the vote flip to keep Haley over Chuck.

[00:20:23] Like, it's not like. Of course. Yeah, like she knew theoretically that Haley was staying there, but probably just was like. I think she just didn't want her to win. And she's probably annoyed that she's winning because because Melody hasn't really. I mean, she's not won anything really. Right. So I wonder if that has anything to do with it. But I saw all the faces. Angela's was the most excited, but everyone else was not excited.

[00:20:52] And I thought that was really interesting. Because, again, like Haley's going to see, you know, be there for a week. Like, also, it was really interesting when Haley was what she had like three balls and she kept knocking him down. And then Barrett was like five or four balls in. And did he throw that? Do we think? Barrett throw it? Yeah. No way. No. No.

[00:21:21] I saw some people questioning that. I don't think so. I mean, it would be quite a silly thing to do, but it certainly seemed like he was choking pretty hard. Yeah. And he had four balls. Yeah. But, I mean, sometimes it's hard to get that last, like, one, you know? Maybe. Or hit all of them except for the last one. It gives people trouble and people gets up. Yeah. So. Yeah. Julie did the preview of this competition and she crushed it. She did. So much faster than all of them. I know.

[00:21:51] And I actually thought that this competition would last even longer than it did. It certainly went on for a while here. Yeah. Which was kind of surprising. Do we have a run time? Does anyone in your life have a run time on that? Oh, that's a good question. Well, I kind of wondered if they had just caught it the first half of the comp. Hayley still would have won probably, huh? Yeah. Because she was the first, the second set of balls. Oh, yeah. If they just did that.

[00:22:19] That to me would have been a normal HOH comp. I would expect. They could have filmed on TV. People saw it. Oh, you mean a normal. Just the five balls up. That'd be it. Yeah. Well, or a normal blockbuster. And I know, like, that was the question. We were watching the show at a watch party and we kept saying, did McKenzie and so is McKenzie Cedric. McKenzie. And two years ago. And Rabina. Did they have to do the balls, knock the balls off? I don't think so. I think they just had to. I don't think they did either.

[00:22:49] Yeah. Get them up there. That's what I thought too. Yeah. The knocking down, I think it was added because they were probably worried that it would go too fast. That's what I was thinking too. And then it took a really long time. It took a long time. But I noticed last Thursday, they had a little bit of dead air, which I think maybe that blockbuster was quicker than they were expecting. Oh, really? That's what it seemed like. Because they have time between the blockbuster and the live vote where it felt like they had a little bit of time to talk.

[00:23:18] Maybe they were expecting them to talk more or maybe. Like, quick, Julie, improv. Yeah. Improv, Julie. Send them to the vote. Whatever. Talk about flirting. Yeah. Talk about flirting. Yeah. But this Thursday, it did seem like it took a long time. Chad is saying they did do both with McKenzie as well. They did. They did also. Okay. Okay. And then did they, did anyone in the chat have runtime on that? How long it lasts? I don't, I didn't see anything.

[00:23:48] I would guess it was at least like three minutes. That's what I was thinking too. And most, aren't these blockbusters supposed to be two minutes or less? Yeah. I think they try to aim for two minutes. If there's a timer, it's usually a two minute timer. Right. That's what I was thinking. I wonder what they would have done if they just couldn't make it happen. Like couldn't, and it would like gone on to a commercial break. Like, is that what they would have done? Just said like, and when we're back, you guys will find out the results.

[00:24:15] But like everybody wants to see the live or would they have just pushed commercial breaks maybe? Cause it's a live show. That's a good question. Maybe they push commercial breaks and they just cut into Chuck's interview time. Right. Oh, that makes sense. They, yeah. Which they didn't really need that much of anyways. They did not. Man, what an exit interview. Let's talk about that a little bit.

[00:24:39] Uh, because they obviously showed, you know, Chuck talking to Lala in Wednesday's episode. Yeah. He says she's very confused. Uh, and this is what he said. I am like buffooned. He is buffooned. Um, and Julie, Julie was like, she was really pressing him, but like, to be fair to Julie in the pressing, I feel like she gave him every out.

[00:25:05] Like, uh, she was like, you want to, you want to take it back now that Lala's in the house and you're not. And he was like, no, I know. I know. And she, I felt like she was like low key roasting him and he didn't realize it. And he just kept, kept going. Like he just, it's like, he's, he's mad at Lala. That's what it seems like Chuck from the exit interview. Oh yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:34] I mean, it was, it was bad. Cause like, I think in Chuck's mind, he has this image of Lala, which is that she's very, a very confused player who didn't know anything that was going on in the first four weeks. And he was, he was in the majority for the first four weeks. He was in charge of everything that was going on. And then, oh, one bad HOH result. And now he's the one that takes the hit. Um, and, and, and in his mind, he's just like not willing to let that go. He's just like, no, no, I am a better player than Lala. It kills me that she's still in there and not me. Yeah.

[00:26:03] And it's just like, dude, I know. Well, I mean, I think it speaks to the ego of the player. Sometimes like these people who don't watch big brother, I don't think are always necessarily bad additions to the game. As long as you're willing to adapt and realize that you don't, may not know what you're doing. So like, kind of pay, pay attention, pay up clues, change your game, adapt. Like you go in, you don't watch the game and you're unwilling to like, try to be flexible at all.

[00:26:33] And big brother, like you're not going to do well. You know, he just, Chuck just got lucky, but he did not play much of a game at all. No, he got lucky in his alliance. And I think that he, when the cards, when the, you know, they had the first chance to get the, anyone from that tool shed alliance on the block. I think he didn't do a good job either of trying to save himself. Like, I don't think he really positioned himself in a good spot with Lala.

[00:27:00] He was like, I don't think he even gave her good argument. Like he didn't try to give her good arguments. Yeah. So I felt like he almost just accepted his fate. Yeah. And I mean, at the end of the day for Chuck, like he was in a position where outside of Haley, the only people that had any desire for him, for him to stay in the house were Lala and Taylor, the people who put him up on the block in the first place.

[00:27:28] And Taylor's trying to give an advice on like what to do and what to say, because she wants him to stay over Haley, but like that, like that's such an indictment on your position in the game. If the people who nominated you are the people who care most about you staying. Yes. A hundred percent. It's like, they don't care if you go and he should have taken a page and realized that he needed to win something this week to stay. But yeah, I don't know.

[00:27:57] I felt like, what do you, okay. So I obviously did that blockbuster last season or not the blockbuster, the veto last season that Kamu won. Do you think it was a good game move for Kamu? Because this was a big discussion this week. So you do. See, I still don't think it was. Yes, it's a question. Yes, it's a question. My question was, do you think it's a good game move for Kamu to have not used the veto?

[00:28:21] I, so I think I personally would have preferred to use it if I'm, if I'm Kamu, I think that like saving an ally is always going to be like my preferred option unless maybe you're Lauren and Vince. Um, and so, uh, you know, and, and, and, you know, there are levels to it. Like my thing was if he can talk Lala and Taylor into being okay with it, uh, meaning what

[00:28:50] if I take off Chuck and, uh, and that makes Chuck and Haley both still super loyal to me. Chuck comes off the block. Uh, you put up drew in his place cause you don't want Chuck to leave and Chuck will leave. Um, and then Drew can go up on the block. Then if Haley wins the blockbuster too, great. I've got both of them still. And now drew or Barrett leaves. And that's great for me. Um, and if Haley still leaves, then she would have left anyway and no harm, no foul.

[00:29:19] Uh, so I think the, the key to it is that he doesn't want to damage his relationship with Taylor and Lala too much. He's got a good thing going there with the Ash as well, but I would have liked to have seen him try, you know, like make an effort, see if it was viable for him to make that move. Yeah. And he didn't even want to listen to their arguments. He had already made up his mind, which I thought also was kind of silly because I thought he should have at least played into the fact that like, maybe he was going to use it.

[00:29:48] Like, you know, like maybe Chuck, you're making good points. Like whatever he could have said. I agree. I totally would have used it if I were him, especially because I always feel like if you win any power in big brother, you just use it. Like you use it to make deals. You use it to like, you know, solidify yourself. And I still think Kamo is a huge target. And I think it's so silly for him to get rid of like Chuck leaving this week for us as viewers. Like we don't care. Right.

[00:30:18] But for like him, for Kamo's place in the house, it's not good. And I'm not like rooting for Kamo, obviously. But like, I think like I just think in the head of like a player, like I just don't think it's good for his game. Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, the people he made the happiest by not using it were Drew and Barrett. Yeah. And Devin's indeed. Right. And Drew and Barrett are still coming for him.

[00:30:47] Like they're targeting him. So it's like he didn't really gain a ton from it. I do. I am like keeping an eye because the feeds do come back very quickly before the HOH competition after the eviction episode. And, you know, there's some sometimes some non-spoilery fun things come up. I'm seeing a quote from Haley talking to Angela. Uh, now remember in the at the end of this episode, Angela was saying like, oh, they were really cheering for you.

[00:31:15] Haley is now saying, I think I am going to get this America's vote tomorrow. So I am pretty excited. I'm telling you, this whole week was about me getting bullied a thousand percent. Oh, my gosh. We we love Haley. She's so. So what is the word that when you when you're like live in a different world than what's actually going on? Delusional. Well, that too. Yeah, she's so delusional. As the kids say.

[00:31:44] No, but there's another word for it. But anyways, yeah, she's so delusional. She's that is so funny. She's just not self-aware. But that's self-aware. That's what I'm thinking. Lack of self-awareness is really. But I so we were on a when I was talking to Jimmy and all them, we someone said that her family members are now our friends or something are coming out saying, no, this is how Haley really is in real life. So like we. Yeah.

[00:32:10] So we should expect that, like when she comes out of the big brother house for her to be consistently saying, like, no, that's really how it was. Like her perspective is like what she believes. A hundred percent. Oh, I fully expect her to do be doing like tick tocks with Matt Hardman. Oh, my gosh. How Angela is a bully. Well, but she might have to switch back and be best friends with Angela again because it's true.

[00:32:38] So and you know how that everything changes in that house so quickly, like and if Haley wins H.O.H. Forget it. Like her and Angela are going to be like they were never separated, you know? Yeah. But I do think back to the whole common thing, I think that if because now he's made an enemy of Haley and if Chuck would have stayed, he would have had enemy of Chuck. So just the fact of him doing that, it's very like not a good game move. Yeah.

[00:33:06] So if Haley wins, she I mean, she kind of has to win or she's just going to be a target. So I was kind of wondering if come who didn't use that veto. I mean, is he doing a better job at starting to move back towards the middle? Should there exist? Because he's never know. Comey is never going to be in the middle because he's going to be a target. They act like they're like want to work with him. But I think from from my perspective of how the dynamics of the house. Well, yeah, because he's, you know, a competitor.

[00:33:35] And now they view him as a threat and a competitor. And yeah. But like somebody like he's also good at like D. I see D may want to work with him because she sees him as another strong person. D at some point, what happens? Strong people in Big Brother got to realize. Yeah. They look around and realize, hey, I'm the only one of the strong people left. But D is not controlling Lala and Taylor. That's the thing. That's why she's like to come around. Yeah, of course. But at the end of the day,

[00:34:05] Kamu is in a better spot with Taylor and D. Sorry, with Taylor and Lala than he is with D, I think. Or wait. That's that's a better place for him. Ultimately, the vets are going to be much more dangerous, though they do plan to take him quite far. At least D and Devins do. The main issue for Kamu, which actually brings us to, I think, like the the only thing we haven't really touched on in the episode yet, which is this summit where Lala on some wine

[00:34:33] is going to lead a conversation about targeting the icons. And Drew and Barrett decide to rat it out. Of course. Now, what was not like super included in this or in this segment in the episode is that the main conclusion for Drew and Barrett through all of that was that they want to target Kamu because Lala was saying, oh, we love Kamu. We should keep Kamu around.

[00:35:02] And they were like, why do they love Kamu? Yeah. What's going on there? So all of FAP, as they have now been introduced in the episodes for the American people, all of them are targeting Kamu. If any of them win HOH, Kamu is their primary target. Yeah. So that's not great.

[00:35:26] But let's let's talk about this this meeting and the decision to to rat it out, because obviously, like the way it was sort of shown to us was Barrett being like, ah, what if somebody else tells them first? Um, but the reality is that like a lot of this stuff was, as Barrett said, going to be told to the to the icons.

[00:35:50] In fact, on the feeds before Barrett tells D, uh, Taylor had told, uh, Devin's a lot less information, but Taylor had said Mallory and Melody were behind all of this stuff. So the fact that Barrett and Drew get to this and spill way more detail and say Lala was leading it actually kind of saved them from, uh, from being looked at very skeptically by the vets. I think the major issue, though, is that like,

[00:36:19] why are you allowing the vets to decide who they're going to believe and who they're going to trust? And like, why are they the source of truth here that you have to go to them and give them the information before somebody else does? That should be a major red flag. I think if you're playing this game, a hundred percent. And I think that they are still so enamored by the vets. And I think that that is what really it boils down to.

[00:36:44] They're like, they want the, I think they all want secretly for the vets to like, they're worried about what the vets think. They want the vets to want to work with them. I think that's really what it boils down to. I think it's just like, they look up to them. And that's also like part of your strategy is being a, a player that comes back of that. Right. Like you have to understand that, like they've watched you play, but they're like a little bit enamored by you, a little starstruck.

[00:37:14] I also just think that the, that the vets like majorly benefit from a fractured house. My phone's going to go down. And with them being, you know, the entire house being so fractured, it does seem very tough for them to unite against the vets, which is always going to be beneficial for the vets. I mean, as long as they're not talking or they're not comparing notes, I mean, the vets have a good, good chance to go a ways before they really get pushed back, you know?

[00:37:42] Yeah. I mean, I think that it's something it's, it's sort of exaggerated when you have vets in the house who are really in power for a long time and they consolidate their power. I think Rachel's phone is perhaps dying here. They will hopefully get a backup soon, but I'll make my point anyway, which is that when people hold power in the house,

[00:38:10] they, they become the, the, the, the holders of it, right? People who have won power before who have exercised that power, they tend to maintain the power and people like Barrett and Drew, who have not touched power yet, they've just been around it. They don't see themselves as holding power at all. They see themselves as orbiters of that power. They don't know what it feels like to win HOH and get through it to the other side, right?

[00:38:38] It's very scary to somebody like Drew talks about throwing the HOH to be like, oh, I don't want people to be mad at me because he's never experienced what it's like to actually win that HOH and then come out the other side with a bunch of deals and a bunch of people who are like really happy with him. And so here we go. We have Rachel, Rachel back.

[00:39:01] Um, but basically the point I'm making is that when I think one group of people holds a lot of power for a long time, you just start to acclimate to it and you just believe that they are the powerful ones and that you need to wait for your turn. And I think that that's how everyone is playing this game aside from the vets and essentially Kamu. Kamu. Now, Lala obviously took charge this week and made a move.

[00:39:27] Um, but, uh, which is why I think she feels a little more emboldened to lead this charge against, uh, against the vets. But, um, it's very dangerous and you have to be careful who you are talking to. She, and I think she knew Brendan that she was like, Drew, if this gets out, I'm going to be mad. And it's like, I mean, I mean, she's, she, she's justified in already expecting stuff to get out because I feel like this season has really done a lot of leaking.

[00:39:55] I mean, there is a lot of leaking that goes on. So like conversations happen and I have not, I don't think I've seen a season where so much stuff gets ran back and forth so quickly. Usually it takes a little bit or maybe it's like one person, but it seems like a lot of people are running and telling everybody's business this season. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody wants to be the person that the group in power chooses to keep around.

[00:40:20] And they want to like be able to, uh, I mean, we saw it with Lyric, like, Hey, look at my friends, not me. Uh, we just saw it with Kamu who did a little more successfully of like, Hey, target my friends, not me. Um, and, uh, and I, and I think we see it with Drew and Barrett sometimes where they're like, Hey, look, look, Mallory and Melody are doing things. Sometimes I think they are starting to learn to like vouch for each other though, which is nice.

[00:40:46] We see that in the episode tonight that Barrett was saying in the diary room, like, Hey, Drew said that, that Devin's was scary, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna do him a solid here and say that Lala said it, uh, which is like, good. Yes. Protect your allies. Yeah. Finally, the realizing that, I mean, even when Barrett seemed to be okay with Drew going what last week. I mean, yeah, he did was not real.

[00:41:13] I guess that was one thing I was kind of surprised by is that I thought Barrett and Drew were pretty close. So at least when he was going getting nominated, that there would have been some pushback and not been so willing to just kind of roll over and let him go. You know, as long as it's not me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The idea, but yeah, I mean, you can't really, you can't really win big brother without allies. It doesn't really happen. Yeah. Especially this. I mean, they still got so much game to play.

[00:41:40] I mean, I think that's what people don't realize is like, they still, they feel like they've been in there for a long time. Cause they have like for all intents and purpose where they've been in there for like 40 days, maybe somewhere around there. So about to be day 39 tomorrow. It'll be Haley's 39th bad day. Yeah, exactly. So more bad days for Haley to come. So, but you know, Haley HOH really turned that around. Oh wait. Yeah. She can win HOH. She's up. Right. So, yeah. So, Hey, you know, everybody roots against somebody.

[00:42:10] I'll be honest with you. The big brother gods deliver and that person will win. Listen, those are always some of the most classic moments in big brothers. Yeah. From the block to the HOH room is always one of the best moments. It is from the, from the, what is it? The outhouse to the penthouse? Yes. Yes. And now she thinks she's going to get a power. So we'll see. Taryn, so what do you, what do you think about the powers right now?

[00:42:39] Cause I will be honest with you. Like when D won this $5,000, you know, I was like, what a waste of a power. Like why you didn't put that in there? It's like diamond power veto, you know, this coin of destiny. I still don't know if this thing's real. Everybody talks about it. And then $5,000 bribe. Like, wait, what? I mean, you know? Yeah. It feels, it feels very useless. Yeah.

[00:43:06] But depend, I think the only where, the only world where it becomes useful, like really useful is, is depending on how the rules work. Because what it says is that somebody like they must follow through if they accept the bribe. So like theoretically, you could try to use it more like a contract. Yeah. Where it's like, Hey, I'm HOH this week. If I don't nominate you, will you accept this bribe and then be contractually obligated

[00:43:34] to not be able to nominate me next week or something? Right. Like, yeah, I'd be, it'd be interesting to know what that line is, where they would determine that it was a binding contract. And, you know. Exactly. So CBS legal has to get involved. Yeah. Because if you're able to just, if you're able to just be like, Yeah. Yeah, you can take the 5K back. I want to nominate you anyway. Then it's, yeah, it's useless. But it's like, if you accepted it, you have to now follow through. Then there are some things you could do to kind of trap people into not being able to

[00:44:03] make a move that they want to make or forcing them to make a move that you want them to make. Well, even when it would do like the, uh, in prizes and punishments, you know, we'd have that, uh, for veto and people would have that 5,000 or usually $10,000. I think I always thought like, yeah, that's great money. But the end, if it's going to cause you to lose the game, I mean, it does not really seem like a good amount of money. So to me, it just pales in comparison to the thought like, yeah, I take this,

[00:44:31] but it might really bite me in the butt next week or I might go home as a result. Like it's not really a hard choice for most people. I think, you know, A hundred percent. There's no world where like taking the 5K is worth making a move that is super detrimental to your game in any way. The only thing I did wonder about was, are they able to lie about the powers? Cause sometimes they will stipulate that you can't lie. I'm not going to lie.

[00:44:56] If I had a power, I would definitely make it out to be way cooler than it was. So if I get that $5,000, I'm definitely telling somebody it's the ability to do something that scares people. You know, could you do that? Would they allow that? That is a very, it's a very good question. You are not technically allowed to do this. However, there are some workarounds. Like you can't say I won the power. It's called the BB bribe. I have $50,000. Yeah.

[00:45:24] Or like, or something like, you can't say like, I, if you have the BB bribe, I don't think you can say I have the power. It's the coin of debt or it's the coup d'etat. Yeah. I don't think you can actively say that. However, this is something that Devin's indeed. I heard Devin's doing this. Yes. You can say, you can do things like, Hey, it would be cool. It's an HOH takeover power. Do you get the HOH from that week? Yeah. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting question.

[00:45:54] I know. I did. I think I heard, may have heard a recap from you when you were talking about him doing that. So, uh, you know, so we'll see. I, and, and, you know, you can also, I can think just be very vague. Like D even with her 5k bribe power could easily be like, Hey, you know, that, that third vote was never accounted for. You can, you can nominate me if you want. It might not go well. Exactly.

[00:46:20] Like you can, you can definitely vague, you know, vague post and, and threaten in that way. And so, uh, there's a lot of value there. I do think, um, there's definitely a lot of value there, but what I'm curious about now is who do we think is, is actually going to win. The time capsule, uh, this week, because I think the online community has been pushing melody all, all week from what I've seen. A lot of melody pushed the, the biggest online polls are looking at our, our, our saying melody.

[00:46:50] Um, I mean, I think melody looks like the most viable to do something with a power. Like give me somebody to win a power who I think might actually do something with it or worthwhile. Because if I'm giving a power to somebody, I want to see you as proper. I want it to be used. I mean, big brother wants to be used. The fans want to be used. If you're going to do this, makes it, make sure somebody is going to use it. Right. Yes, I agree. Uh, then nothing's been used yet. And, and, you know, Devin's plans to use his power if it, if it's about to expire. Yeah.

[00:47:20] Uh, but the fact that he has it for six weeks and probably won't have to use it until it expires. It's kind of crazy. Exactly what you want. Yeah. No, I mean that, that to me, like six weeks of some of anything in big brother where you actively can use it at any time is a huge power. I mean, that's pretty big. It's massive. I don't even know that it's, it's the diamond power of veto as much as that six weeks, like you said. Right. Exactly. Cause you had six weeks where I can do a lot of stuff and still know at the end of

[00:47:47] the day, worst case scenario, I can still kind of bail myself out to some degree. Right. So for sure. Yeah. It allows you to play more aggressively, uh, which maybe is a good thing, but it also allows you to be just so insulated that nobody can even touch you, which kind of forces everybody else to play conservatively. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so melody, I think is getting a good push for the power. Uh, she does have that segment in Wednesday's episode with the punishment, which was very fun, but it was still pretty Mallory centric.

[00:48:16] And I, and I think a huge part of me wonders do players like Taylor who has had some great content, you know, uh, this is big brother for dummies, good stuff or Kamu who has been very, very present in the edit, uh, and has had a pretty good edit in general. Um, does Kamu have a chance if it's like TV, uh, watchers, uh, voting for these powers?

[00:48:41] I really think that I don't really know exactly where the vote goes here. I think the fact that Mallory won last week, uh, is some evidence that the online community has some sway because that was the name that the online community was rallying around. But Mallory also had a really good and present edit. So I don't know. How many more of these do we have? Do we have any guarantee? Like, do we know? Two left. Okay. I believe. Okay.

[00:49:12] So, I mean, are they, is there time for all these things to get used? I mean, the bribe, I guess. No, right. I mean, you know, at some point they're going to be things that have, can be used, I guess together because, you know, they can't. Yeah. I am. I am curious about that. Like if Devin's got the power this week, would it still have been good for six weeks or would it only have been good for, you know, two weeks or three weeks? Yeah, probably. Exactly. I would like to think, hopefully. Good God. For those dragging this thing into week 10 again, you know?

[00:49:42] Right. So, hopefully not. Hopefully they learn their lesson, guys. The White Locusts will probably be back and we'll all be having another conversation. So, but depending on who goes home this time, I guess, you know? Yes. Yes. There is another thing I wanted to talk about from tonight. This was very alarming to me when Devin's got in the diary room and he showed off his new haircut. Yes. I don't know if you caught his haircut here. Boulder yash, he said. Boulder yash.

[00:50:14] Lala loves it. Lala could not stop complimenting Devin's today. Lala loves this haircut. Okay. I'm not sure Becca Devin's loves that haircut though. Yeah. Becca may not love it. But she does not know how, you know, few options there are for people cutting hair in there. So, you take what you can get. So, I lost a sideburn from Rachel my first season. So, you know, somewhere in that house. Yes. Yeah.

[00:50:43] They don't usually let you change your hairstyle too dramatically. I guess this was. No, they absolutely hate that. They hate. Yeah. Especially when people want to shave. Or do like big haircuts. Like during the mid, middle of the week. They do not like that. So. End of the week is a little more doable. Yeah. Because there's less of a chance that they need to reuse footage from. Yeah. From a previous week. Yeah. So, a live show. Like, they'll be okay if you do it. Like, maybe for a live show. Because that way, at least it's starting new. But, yeah. By Tuesday, Wednesday.

[00:51:11] No, they're not letting you cut your hair. Except for pickups. Yes. All right. So, we've talked about a potential Haley HOH win. But, but, but is there anyone else you, you're kind of like interested to see what they, what they would do if they won? And like, you know. I mean, sometimes I always like the people that have been, been floating in the middle somewhere to like do something. To like come alive. Like, you know, like a Barrett HOH. I would love to see what Barrett would do. I have no idea.

[00:51:41] I mean, he's going to have to do something where he draws the line to some degree. Because I think he's, like you said, he's Bear Rat in this episode. So, he's embracing his rat side. So, he's willing to do whatever it takes to stay alive. That's good. But, at some point, he's, again, you can make it, but you make it in the end that way and not win anything. Nobody's voting for you. So, he's got to, got to do something. You know? Yeah. I do think, I do think some, some FAP, some FAP wins. Yeah.

[00:52:10] Would be pretty interesting because I do think they would be targeting Kamu. And the vets wouldn't want them to. And so, like, I think Kamu might touch the block with maybe Yash, maybe Haley. And it would be the vets having to, like, be like, oh, Kamu, we don't, we are against this. But then with FAP, like, oh, yeah, we support this. And we're going to vote Kamu out. And then, uh-oh, a blindside. Who knows? So, I mean, another person I'm thinking about is Yash.

[00:52:39] Like, so what does a Yash H-O-H look like? Like, does anyone have any clue? I mean, he hangs out with Kamu, right? Like, they're buddies. Kamu and Taylor and Lala. He also has an alliance with Devins and D. Okay. And so he is looking at both FAP and the icons. Okay. And I would imagine he ends up targeting FAP here. Yeah.

[00:53:09] Easier. Less scary. Exactly. Now, he does still have, I think what would probably happen is, like, Haley on the block. Haley would be the official target. Okay. But, uh-oh, I need some pawns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, Drew. Sorry, Barrett. Yeah. I need some pawns next to Haley. Make sure you beat her. And then if Drew or Barrett stay on the block by the end of the week, he may want to flip that vote. He may not have the votes.

[00:53:37] But, uh, but, you know, we've, there are definitely some, some interesting possibilities with what might play out there. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm still wondering, like, at this stage in the game, what, who is challenging, uh, D or Devins? Are we going to get any sort of competition or push or anything? And does Angela manage to, like, slip by the majority of the season because she's just

[00:54:05] getting these little fights and D and Devins are drawing a lot of heat because they're the ones who look more in control, whether they are or not. For sure. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Angela's not being looked at really at all. I mean- Even with having a giant blowup and still nothing. It's kind of crazy. Anything that the giant blowup is good for her because people are even less threatened by her.

[00:54:30] Um, Kamu did talk about potentially putting, uh, Angela on the block as like a pawn. Um, but, uh, but Taylor and Lala were the ones like leading the charge the most to try to get, uh, Devins out. We saw that in the episode. Yeah. Um, but it's like, you can, you can bang that drum all you want, but you were HOH this week. You could have done it. Yeah. And now nobody else is really willing to.

[00:54:54] So you can be anti-Vet all you want, but if you're not actually making the move- That's what I don't understand. It's like, even when they're trying to, you know, rehab Kamu's reputation and help him. I don't know why if you're the one that nominated him. I don't understand. Why are you having people who are nominating people and then being like, oh, I want you to stay. Like, I understand you, you, you realize two of these three people were going to stay at the same time. Like why nominate them? You know?

[00:55:24] Yeah. It's, and really, I think they just got, they just got swayed by Kamu. Uh, Kamu pulled off a really good, uh, kind of coup there. Um, before, right before the nominations, he was supposed to go up. Chuck was supposed to stay on the block or stay off the block. Yeah. But Kamu managed to convince Taylor who managed to convince Lala and Kamu also convinced Lala. Um, and he got Chuck up on the block. Now it's not like Lala and Taylor had the best relationship with Chuck anyway.

[00:55:54] So, you know, who really, uh, cares, but, um, but yeah, I mean, that was, that was just good on common because this could have easily been common. Chuck essentially was on the block where common was supposed to be. Yeah. Obviously he won the veto anyway, but like. So now have you been converted to a Kamu stand now, Taron, for all his, his, um, magic that he's done this week? Brendan, how dare you? Truly. Everyone in this house must pay for their sins. Yeah. He is, he is the retribution.

[00:56:25] Yes. Um, so, uh, anything else, Brendan, that you want to talk about? Um, no, I mean, it's, I, I've, I so far have been pretty happy with season. I will say not a big fan of twists. I really, again, especially over the last season, but I don't like them doing too much because I do want to see people play. The blockbuster to me did have an, um, kind of a surprising side effect where I do think

[00:56:51] it does make people play a little bit more, a little faster, which is actually nice because to see people like hang out for the first four to six weeks and just pick off, you know, mutually agreed upon targets is not really fun. Big brother. So I will say the blockbuster has actually done a pretty good job of speeding things up. Um, but I do not want to see it continue too far into the game. I want to see them actually play. I want to see D and Devins sit on the block or have to do something to get off, you know,

[00:57:20] whether they can talk their way off or win a POV. I mean, I do, I want to see somebody do something like that before they get to the end. So, cause I can respect the D win. She's a great player, strong player. She's already shown what she can do in Survivor. She can do it here in big brother. The same time, we don't want her to walk to the end. She needs some pushback, you know? That's always the most fun is, uh, as much adversity as possible. Yeah. Um, speaking of twists, we do, we did have an announcement about the thousandth episode.

[00:57:50] Yes. That, uh, there's all kinds of stuff happening. There's a new twist. Do you have any, any thoughts, any ideas, Brendan, of what this could be? For the thousandth episode? I don't know. You know, when they send out emails asking any of the alumni if they'd love to pay their own way, I don't know what they're expecting. So I don't know if the plan will be all put together until like right up to the last moment. I mean, they may be bringing back some, some icons. It'd be great to see some people come back.

[00:58:18] I, but I want to see some functional stuff. Like you're going to do thousands of episodes. You're going to hype it up. Please, for the love of God, make it good and do something that at least an homage that speaks to big brother. Like have some either like historic or iconic things that are, that are sets or, or competitions or people come back to host competitions that were iconic maybe back in the day or something. I mean, something, but don't hype this up.

[00:58:45] And then again, give us a nothing burger and let us down and just another, you know, Julie coming out and, you know, a couple of fireworks or whatever. I mean, I want to see something good, you know? Yeah. Like, I mean, like I'm not, I'm not hoping for much, but I'm really hoping that it's not just like, Hey, here's the thousandth episode. Here's a quick montage of like historical moments. Now get ready for the big twist of the season. It's the hamster wheel of death. Yes.

[00:59:15] What does that have to do with a thousand? Why are we doing a big twist here? Man. You know, unless it's a twist that is genuinely really relevant to the history of the show. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, and not something just to screw one player over, like something that we can see that would, that would be a part of the show would again, embrace its past. Maybe perhaps, you know, but not, not distort the game too much.

[00:59:41] I mean, cause again, I love this stuff when it does, when it adds to the game, but does not like just tank somebody's game as a result. Cause that, that's what really sucks about big brothers when they do stuff like that. So I'm hoping we get something a little bit more well balanced. I mean, what I expect to be honest with you is that we will see a bunch of people at the block party on big brother unlocked. So they'll be showing footage from the, the, the, uh, because I mean, I don't think they're going to be in the audience.

[01:00:08] Cause that was the other thing is like, at least when we did this for season, what was it? Um, season 20, maybe we went back and they had a bunch of us in the audience, you know? So that to me was a little bit cool. Yeah. That was a little bit more, a little cooler. Like that to me felt a little bit more what I would expect for a thousandth episode is that you would have alumni come back or something, you know? So yeah. Yes. Uh, there is one thing we missed from the episode of course.

[01:00:36] And that was, um, Angela, uh, doing, um, doing some, some, some knife work. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was, I will say that was actually a really good clip. I did enjoy that. So her doing her, uh, hibachi. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't name it properly. So I actually might completely whiff when I, uh, try to play this clip. Uh, what, what is this? You know, I'm a scrabble day head sometimes. Nope. Not that one. Still a good one.

[01:01:06] Um, I wouldn't say I had a hand in these. Not that one either. I don't remember where it went. Oh man. You only got 3000 of these clips. How do you not remember where all of them are at? I actually have done way too many of them. We've had a lot to work with this season. They've been pretty good on the clips. So, uh, so far, so far, so enjoyable. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm enjoying this season. Yes. Uh, of course you can check out our live feed updates, where I did play the clip quite a few times already.

[01:01:37] Um, all right. Uh, thank you for the live feed updates. I actually have been checking out your updates. That's the only way I've been keeping up. So I appreciate it. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Uh, does, does, does, does Rachel have any final thoughts before we, uh, she does not. I will tell you that she is two timing you. She's on a podcast with Frankie Grande right now. So yeah. Oh wow. I know. Exactly. Exactly. She didn't even let the, didn't even let this one finished before.

[01:02:07] She's already off on another podcast. Taryn. I was like, I don't even know her anymore. You know? This is how Zach Rans felt. Yeah. Exactly. So, you know, so let down. Uh, all right. Well, tell her, thank you for, uh, for hanging out. It was very fun to talk to her. Yeah. Well, we, we appreciate it being on here. We miss you guys. And obviously always love the rap audience.

[01:02:34] So, um, yeah, I hope, I hope, uh, we'll see you guys soon on something. I don't know if me, but you know, with Rachel, who knows? So she could be popping out of the volcano. I don't even know what's going on. So I hope you, uh, you have some, some good, uh, velociraptor defenses, uh, at your house. Cause we should, you never know. Well, I don't know if you guys knew what was interesting about that. That was actually universal studios, velociraptor.

[01:03:04] So it was a legit costume. Rachel said, yeah, it was like 100% like the real. Yeah. Velociraptor from universe studios. So that's so that's actually, that's actually very cool. I mean, it makes sense. They're like, they're on the, they're on the lot. So exactly right there. Yeah. But usually you expect from big brother cheesy and cheap. And so, you know, somebody's claw falling off halfway through the shooting. So, all right. Well, uh, thank you, Brandon. Thank you, uh, again to Rachel.

[01:03:33] Um, I will be back of course, tomorrow morning, uh, for the update. Well, we will be talking to Chuck. Uh, I, I will say I'm very scared of what Rob might say to Chuck in the interview tomorrow. So, uh, stay, stay tuned. Um, the live feed update at noon tomorrow. Uh, and you can of course find me on Patreon, Twitch, YouTube, streaming things, all kinds of fun stuff. Brandon, what, what, what, what do you, what do you, Rachel got going on?

[01:04:00] Uh, to be honest with you, I am just working all the time. I'm an assistant professor. So I got to do a lot of big grownup stuff, you know, but, uh, Rachel's still casting and she's still doing, uh, stuff here and there. So you will see her. I think she's doing something in Nashville with Jimmy and like, uh, uh, I'm going next month. I think they're doing a, uh, party there. And I think she's going to be going actually for the thousandth episode to LA and chat PCC is giving them some money to get a house.

[01:04:29] So I think there are a couple of them that we're filming at a house. I don't know. I'll just the responsible one who takes care of kids. So, you know. All right. Well, uh, I guess, uh, you can also find Rachel, uh, on Frankie's podcast. If you, yes, exactly. If you're double dipping. Yes. All right. Well, thank you all so much for, uh, for being here. Uh, it's, it's been a blast.

[01:04:56] Always fun to talk to, to, to Brent Schell and we will see all of you next time.