BB28 Monday Live Feed Update September 21, 2026

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[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_03] Every morning, Taran Armstrong, talk big brother, looking at the stuff from yesterday. All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from Fio to H-O-H.

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[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_05] Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for September 21st. I'm your host, Taren Armstrong, and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday. The Big Brother 28 live feeds. It was day 76 in the house.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_05] And it was really a day of campaigning, both for the two sort of people who need to campaign, primarily Melody, but also for like what's going to happen after this eviction. What's going to happen as we get to the final four, to the final three, the final two, as Dee especially is working hard to try to ensure that as many people will take her there as possible.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_05] And with me to talk through today, it's Matt. How are you doing, Matt?

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_04] Really, really good. This season has had obviously its ups and downs, but towards the end here, I've just been endlessly fascinated by all of the different ways that this game could end. And of course, 100% right that yesterday was a big day of like, all right, we really got to start having these conversations if we haven't already been. Like, what do we think we're going to do here at this end game?

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_04] And I'm looking ahead to, you know, maybe there's an eviction coming up imminently, but a couple more people have to go. We'll have our final two. I feel like we could be in store for like another big moment or two as someone either gets blindsided or cut whatever the case is. So the season may feel a little slower, but to me, it's not anywhere near done. Fair enough to say.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_05] Certainly, certainly. Well, of course, as you know, Devin's is the HOH here at the final five. He nominated Drew and Melody. Drew went on to win the veto. So he, of course, will be taking himself off the block with Taylor as the replacement. They're still a little bit concerned about what the Pharaoh's curse could be. I still think it was just an excuse to make the eviction happen sooner.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_05] And when they said only the HOH and veto winner will be safe, I think that was just a fancy way of saying the veto winner that's not on the block could force the other person on the block kind of thing. But who knows? Either way, Taylor expected to go up on the block next to Melody. And that is one of the topics of the day. Should we evict Taylor? Should we evict Melody? Melody.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_05] And so the night before, Dee had approached Drew with like, I kind of, I'm interested. Like, are you interested in Melody staying? Wouldn't that be kind of something you'd be interested in? He didn't really bite that night. So in the morning, she approaches him again. It's like, I'm kind of surprised you're not trying harder to keep Melody. And he's like, I just don't think Devin's is going to budge. I mean, we could keep her. We've got the votes.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_05] And Dee's like, yeah, but I'm not going to. I mean, like, I wouldn't blindside Devin's over it. It would be a conversation. And Drew's like, well, I don't think Devin's will want her here. So we're at a bit of an impasse, I think.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_04] And Dee probably ultimately won't want that either, regardless of the conversations that could happen today. But it just is like a couple of days ago, Dee was talking to the cameras being like, yeah, my ideal final three at this point would include Melody. It would be Melody, myself and Devin's where I take Melody to final two and have a pretty easy win. I think she doesn't view Melody and Taylor too far from one another as far as like what their jury prospects could be. But I do think it's fair to assume that Taylor has a higher likelihood of getting more votes.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_04] She has some more friendships in the jury and people like her a lot. Whereas Melody until now hadn't won the competition. So just the idea of Melody sticking around was on Dee's mind. And there still is the possibility that Melody could stick around. But she knows it doesn't really make sense for her. And as we're going to talk about, I would say, you know, throughout the day today, it's like, Drew, Melody, do you have any final pitches? Like Drew just coming off of the day of like, I'm not going to leave you all alone about keeping me off the block. Well, go to work. Do that again.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_04] Just this time trying to get Melody to stay.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. And I think the best argument at this point, Drew has is, I mean, and he's using some of them. Number one, it's, hey, Taylor has friends on the jury. She has friends on the jury and she's a lot more likely to beat you than you might think. Lala, Yash, Yash could be a big voice in that jury. And he's going to learn from Melody quite soon that Barrett may also be a voice for Taylor on the jury. And so he should be really be using that as much as possible.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_05] Whereas Melody, less so. Now that's also a dangerous thing for Melody, but like you never know, right? Number two, he's going to be talking with Dee about Devens. Just, I think specifically with Dee instilling some fear into Dee that Devens might be looking to cut her.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_05] Because if Dee is worried that Devens might cut her, then there's an argument to be made that taking Melody to the final four is a little bit safer. Because Devens can't afford to cut Dee at the final four and take a showmance to the final three. Therefore, he would have to evict either Drew or Melody, whoever is available, if he wins that final four veto. And, you know, worst case scenario, Drew or Melody win.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_05] And they probably, according to what Drew would pitch, evict Devens over her. Devens can't win the final four HOH, so that would keep her safe. She would still be in the final three with a showmance, but at least she's not cut at final four. Whereas if it's Taylor, then, you know, and they evict Devens, then, okay, it's Taylor and Drew in the final three. And you could make an argument that Drew and Taylor will equally just take each other as much as Drew and Melody might.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_05] Now, granted, that sort of flips the Taylor can win argument on its head. But it's still like, it's something, right? There's really not much reason to keep Melody. And so you really have to stretch. But I think specifically trying to tie into this fear that like, hey, what if Devin sees the opportunity to cut you and take me and Taylor to the final three? Thinking we both take him, you know, and that he beats us both and that he can't beat you.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04] It's been something that I think has been in the air for, I don't know, at least the last week or two, the BB21 comparisons. But like, like every day we're inching closer and closer to that. Like, like everything is lining up the one to one of it all of just like, this is where we were of two pairs talking about like, is there any possibility that a final four, even with this other locked in pair makes sense to go to the end?

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_04] And even to this day, we're debating about did Cliff and Nicole make the right decision in bringing Jackson and Holly to final four rather than this other person, Tommy at that time and Taylor here who could get votes on the jury. And there's just valid reasons. Like it's not a zero percent, like it's not a complete open and closed case as to, oh, of course you should evict Melody here and split up Drew and Melody because there are some reasons. It's just a matter of what you value more competitions, all that kind of stuff.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_04] But it's just very weird how we're ending up in a very similar type of situation.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. And I guess, I mean, it to make it more comparable, I think if Yash had survived and it were Yash on the block here, I think Yash is probably more comparable to Tommy in terms of especially competition threat. But, which would make the decision, I think, easier in the other way, probably. But, but yeah, it's, I really do think the, the BB21 comparisons continue to, to work out here.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_05] So Drew does talk to Melody. He, she asks him if D or Devin's has talked to him about the vote and he says, no. He says, all he's talked about is that he's told them he's not voting Melody out, which is, which is a lie. Um, she says, uh, she talks about, they start to talk about, they, they, they do a lot of this throughout the day. Um, he's starting to do some of the things I was hoping he would do, uh, which is like, talk to her about jury management, talk to her about who he should sit next to in the end.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_05] And a little bit directing her to, to advocate for him in the jury, though, not nearly to the degree that I think he should. Um, she says that, uh, Taylor might really win. And this is part of her campaign as well, but like Taylor might really win this game, especially against D, uh, probably not against Evans, but D should really want to get rid of her. Uh, and he says that he has talked to D about that.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_05] Like he thinks that Taylor's game resembles Ashley's from last season and that she could win. Like she won one veto in the start of the game. And then she might win the final HOH, take out a big competitor and win the whole thing. She's got friends on the jury. Um, and, uh, and Melody's like, well, I mean, I did talk to Barrett about jury votes before he left. And he said he would vote for Taylor over D. So, and Drew's like, wait, really? He's like, yeah.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_05] He's like, oh wow. And then he, he later asked like, well, who should I sit next to? And she's like, well, obviously me, uh, or Taylor, or honestly, maybe D just definitely not Devon's. Yeah.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_04] And I've, I've been waiting. I don't know if they've like had specific talks about this in the past couple of days and maybe I missed it or at all, but just like hearing them yesterday, uh, have this conversation so close to the end game. We will likely be down to four very, very soon. Um, and the big decisions will have to be made. Obviously when we get to three, I think that there is a really good chance that we get all of Drew D and Devon's in the final three, just based on the competitions that could be coming up for the veto.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_04] Like that's extremely likely to me at this point. Um, and so just who would take who for Drew to be talking about even possibly considering cutting Devon's. It just wasn't on my radar because, uh, they've been so close throughout the game, but like you have to look at things differently. Now you have to kind of throw out everything that you knew about the game and any alliances or anything. And just who do I have a chance to beat against? And the idea that drew could win final HOH and willingly take D with him.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_04] It sounds insane, but if his only options are D who has not been perceived to play as strong of a game as Devon's this season for Devon's, it's just like, he's the obvious. It's like hand him the wind. If he's there, he gets the wind. There's no discussion to be had, but there feels like there could be a discussion when it comes to, uh, when it comes to D versus drew. So there is a lot to consider. It's interesting to hear melody being on board with this as well. Uh, just like we know that Devon's has to go.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_04] Um, and then, I mean, look, we can back it up to the, uh, the Taylor thing as well, because the Taylor, Ashley, what are we're still doing this? Um, especially just as we get closer to the end game. I mean, their, their perception of those two has gotten worse. Uh, like comparing those two has gotten worse to me as the season has gone on of like, there's like such a baseline of like, oh, she turned it on at the end.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_04] She made a big move and then she won the game every single, like, well, we don't have to go all the way back into it, but just like every single step along the way, they have played such different games. I can't, I, I, I, there's not, there's nothing to it. It's just like, yes, uh, social game. She won there. She won there. That's it. There's just so many differences in their games, uh, up until this point, but it's what drew and melody are really kind of holding onto. It was like their last bit of maybe we can use this to get D on our side.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_04] Just really remind her, you know, what happened last season? Someone like Taylor won. No, not really. No. So it was a lot there, but, uh, it's just a stream of consciousness.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_05] Yes. Um, and, and it's not, I think a very effective argument either. Uh, we, we do get a little bit later in the game and the day, uh, D and Devin's talking about how, uh, that they're trying to pitch to them that, you know, that Taylor is going to be, you know, is going to be able to win the game. Cause she hasn't pissed people off. She's got friends in the jury. She's like, uh, the last season's winner.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_05] And they're like, no, which, which isn't like, they're like, Oh, she's not like Ashley. They're like, Oh no, she can't win the game. What are they talking about?

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah. Uh, a lot of that as well happening throughout the day. It was not like this, the final seven, I'm going to take it back to at least, but even into this final five, it's been like such good vibes. Everyone's been hanging out. Everyone's been having a good time, hanging out in the backyard, inside, whatever. Um, and, and so like the vibes are high, but then there still is like the level of like, you know, this person didn't play a really good game. Right. And then it just turns into a little bit mean, uh, along the way, just in my opinion of some of the way that they're phrasing about Taylor's game and melody too.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_04] Uh, just like laughing it up about how, like, it would be so ridiculous to even hear them try to explain themselves and how they played this game. It's like, well, let's be careful before we underestimate people.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_05] It's, it's, it's the, it's the fans too. It's I'm still like, uh, I don't know how anybody watches the double eviction footage and says with their full chest that Taylor has done nothing in the game. When she was in there fighting with the best of them, uh, hard to get Mally to change her mind. And, and let me tell you, that's not the norm. Like people often just lay down and die in those double eviction scenarios.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_05] Uh, Taylor was fighting hard to try to get drew up on that block. And that wasn't going to happen, obviously, but that didn't stop her from trying because she's not somebody that does nothing. And if you still say that, then you're really starting to show where you're coming from, aren't you? Because she certainly did try.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_04] The tough part is obviously that it didn't go her way and that she doesn't get to like have this award on her shelf of like, look what I accomplished and got done. Uh, and so it just feels like the culture of how these people are viewing the game and, and these moves and like, yes, of course, you know, a hundred percent that she was doing a lot there, but they're going to look at it and just say, well, but you didn't get what you wanted. And Yash went out that week. So it doesn't really matter. Um, there a lot of talk about, you know, Taylor hasn't won an HOH, which a lot of almost everybody else in the jury has, I think, except for Angela and Taylor.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_04] Um, so there's, you know, just a lot of that perception of her going on. Um, and truly it's like, you know, for some of these people, two of them, at least in particular, uh, that have played with how many different other reality TV people on seasons of survivor, the challenge, whatever. Uh, I, I just, I guess I'm a little surprised to still hear this level of like possible underestimation of like what could happen at the end game.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. And, and like clockwork, like clockwork, like expected the second I bring this up, people, well, but it didn't. Work. Did it? Hmm. Did it, didn't work? Did it? Uh, that's not what we're talking about. Is it? Uh, goalpost movers. Um, you really, you can't take the L like that because I'm talking to people that said she's done nothing. And you're saying, well, no, okay. Maybe she's done something, but it didn't do anything. It didn't work. Uh, like, okay, that's very different. It's a very different claim.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_05] I think here. Anyway, uh, we're having fun. It just, it genuinely, it, it, it, it's annoying. I think it's very annoying. Uh, the people that, uh, they can't be like, okay, you know what? But maybe I was wrong. Maybe she has done some things. Um, cause you just, you just, people can't, just can't take else. You know what I mean?

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_04] I mean, it's the kind of thing that when it comes to the cast themselves, uh, some cast members will come out of a season with like, you know, whether it's like, I don't know if incorrect is the right word, but just like a specific take that they're focused on. Like people are going to come out of this season and say, Taylor didn't do anything to like they're again, laughing today about like what could Taylor possibly say about her game. And then they're going to go home and people are going to say, Oh, she did this. And you didn't realize this. You didn't give her credit for this. You didn't give her credit for that. She had all these connections that she could, if she doesn't win the game, I guess I should say that she could have won.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_04] Um, and at that point, like months down the road, weeks down the road, it's going to be like, Oh yeah, you're right. But right now it's just like a very, like the wall is up and they're not willing to admit that there's something there, even though they are. Obviously a little afraid of sitting next to her at the end because of this narrative. Oh, she could be like Ashley. Uh, oh, she has a couple of friends that, you know, the Yash and Lala votes feeling like they're locked in there, but it's still just not actual respect for her game or anything that she's done. It's just like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I don't want to sit next to her.

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[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_05] Well, Dee talks to Taylor. And she says, hey, you're good this week. Don't worry about it. I'm not going to forget that you saved me on Barrett's HOH. She says also that she knows Devens and Drew, they plan to take each other to the end. And she knows she can't take Devens. Taylor says, well, yeah, Devens easily has the best resume. And this is more reinforcement for Dee that obviously, not that she needs it, but that Devens has, that Devens is seen as the front runner.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_05] Dee says she wants two women in the end, ideally. And it's cool that nobody else sees how close they are. And Taylor says, well, yeah, that's the game I've been playing. I've been working in silence. I've been hiding my relationships. People think I'm just in my pot all day, but I've actually been working on these relationships. And sure, yeah. Like, again, there is a reason why she has at least a couple of votes in the jury. And it's because she has developed those relationships and those friendships.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_05] You know, that they were not just like built in, you know, she's she had she has been working. Dee talks to Melody. Melody does. She tries to pitch here and she tries to pitch that, hey, Taylor can beat you. You never know. She hasn't had this is when she said she has hasn't had to any piss anybody off. She has friends in the jury.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_05] And Dee says, says, like, oh, yeah, it's just like I'm in a tough spot because I'm being asked by both of the boys to vote you out, you know, because it helps Drew to not have to do it himself. Like fully just tries to throw Drew under the bus here. But I'm not sure that Melody like fully caught it.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_04] No, I think she's much more focused on because she she's going to walk away from this conversation feeling like Dee actually does have a possible desire to keep her and doesn't want to piss off Devin's. So Melody is kind of locked, focused on the Devin's of it all in all of this of like, oh, who cares what Devin wants? We should we should do this anyway. You should you know, you should totally keep me anyway, because I want to go further with you and not with Devin's. That's why I put you up last week on the double eviction, because I wanted to take Devin's out. It was never to take you out.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_04] And so like there's like not nothing to this pitch, but I do have to kind of take points off just going back a little bit how long it took her to get here. I mean, they think that an eviction is happening today. Yesterday, that is they, you know, don't know exactly when or what's happening. I mean, also weird veto ceremony hasn't happened yet. Who knows? But like they're kind of it's it's looming over them. Like we have to go. We have to do this now. And they're still just like hours going by of just Drew and Melody hanging out together and like get to work.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_04] Like we have such limited time left here. Get to work. But I also know who I'm talking to. This is Melody, who has spent so much of the season going back to when she and Mallory were doing this together of like they're just going to kind of sit around and talk about it. And like, oh, I don't want to. But if I have to. All right. Fine. D, can we talk and make it as quick as possible?

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_04] So, you know, she really she really pulled out a big win, two wins in the double eviction, keeping herself safe, blockbuster, all that stuff. But, you know, I unfortunately do have to be OK with the fact that she's going to go out here. And I don't know. It's just there hasn't been enough for me.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_05] It really was. It was the worst HOH for Melody to win as well, because it didn't give her a week of time to to like be in power. So she never got to learn what it's like to be in power and learn how to like talk to people more. And, you know, like it just it did not help that that she did not experience that week of power either. So D and Devins are sorry, Drew and Devins. They talk again about going to final two together.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_05] This is a brief conversation. I will say Devins is a little bit of sleep at the wheel here, especially compared to D. He is doing very little to lock in his relationships. You know, even even D herself, but certainly Drew, who he is relying pretty heavily on. He's he has like this one conversation with him about like, hey, us. Right. And that's kind of it. And he does tell Drew as well.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_05] I don't see how I could sit next to D in the end, which is ammunition that Drew can and should use with D to try to maybe even get Melody to stay. But at the very least, to try to pull her to to take him if that wasn't already going to happen in a final three where they were together. So I really I just I don't love this tactic from Devins.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_05] I think he's kind of doing the bare minimum while exposing himself to all kinds of dangers like like if you're not going to have a bunch of conversations, then. Don't even say you don't plan to take the you know what I mean? Like don't don't half measure it and then give him ammunition to use against you.

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah, it's it is weird, especially being at this endgame where everyone in the house and probably in the jury house are talking about that Devins is the number one candidate to win. And as we are watching the pieces reposition themselves on the board and I want to like emphasize reposition themselves on the board as far as like looking to the endgame as we said earlier in the podcast, like who do I want to sit next to? What are the different merits of like me versus this person versus that person?

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04] And even if like that person shouldn't feel like they should take you to the end, nobody should feel like they should take Devins to the end. But nobody should feel like they should take D to the end either. And D is having conversations with every single person in there about what that would look like. Even Melody, who's about to go home. It's more of Melody campaigning. But she's talking to Taylor about I want to be at the end with you. She's talking to Drew about we should go to the end together. And Devins isn't quite having that.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_04] Even with D, like the times that him and D have locked in over the past couple of days has been like, that's probably the most intriguing aspect of like this endgame for me of like, what are they going to say to each other? Because they both keep saying separately, like we know we can't take the other to the end. But then like, so we're still good for that final two, right? And then like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I know I couldn't imagine either of us losing this game. One of us has to win. We're going to go to the end together. D is saying the right thing. So like, I know that you're going to beat me, but I don't care. We have to go to the end together. It has to be one of us.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04] But again, that's D saying that. So I am waiting to like hear a little bit more of that from Devins, if at all, over the remaining days.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. And I think it's, it's relatively indicative. I think I talked about this much earlier in the season that like one of the bigger differences between Devins and D and one of the reasons why I think he was slated to be evicted over when on Barrett's HOH, but not D was because like, like Devins' approach to people is very logical. He stays within the realm of logic, like always.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_05] And so when he feels like he doesn't have logic to aid him, he kind of just is like, I mean, it would be cool, right? Like, Hey, it would be cool if we made final two together. But he doesn't, he doesn't like have it in him to sort of like mind meld in the way that D really does. Right. Yeah. And so I think, and I think this is a problem that a lot of players have.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_05] A lot of people, like I said, they get to a double eviction and they're like, ah, it is what it is. Like, there's nothing I can do. Or they get to the end game and they're like, ah, I could argue, but like, you know, I am in a showman. So it does make sense to evict me. So I'll give a token effort, but you know, it's, there's no way it's going to work. But players like D and there are others, they just keep going. And honestly, Drew is kind of one of them too. Drew, he also puts in some work even when it doesn't make sense.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_05] But like, they just keep going. They just keep pushing more, more, more. And yeah, sometimes it doesn't work. Even again, like Taylor in the double eviction, she's trying to get Drew on the block. Was it going to work? No. Could it have worked? Maybe. Maybe. You never know until you try. And sometimes it does work. Sometimes D does manage to stay when it's fair. It's HOH. And sometimes, you know, you just need to make that effort.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_05] I think also about like Kevin Jacobs in Big Brother Canada 10. Like, he pulled off some things that never should have happened and nobody believed could happen because he just kept trying. And the more effort you put in, the more likely it is to happen. And I think that Devins is just in that position where he's like, I'm not going to insult anybody's intelligence by trying to like overly convince them. And I think also, I'm sure part of it is a little bit of guilt of like, I don't plan to take her.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_05] So I'm not going to really like dive all in and really try to convince her only to cut her throat. I think it feels safer to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. We're definitely taking each other, right? Of course I'm not. As opposed to, I would die if I did that. No, of course. It is us forever. Every second of the day. Yeah.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_04] Just like it is a little frustrating, just the way that the games again are being viewed towards the end game. I'm not upset about it because I am rooting for D first and foremost personally at this point. But I just like Devins is being seen as like he is for sure the guaranteed winner if he gets there. Meanwhile, like, yeah, two weeks in a row, he was going to be evicted if he didn't win a blockbuster. And two times, three, three times.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_05] Well, three weeks in a row, not two rounds in a row because they had the double in the middle. No, the double, sorry, the eviction before the double and in the double, yeah.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_04] Yes. On Drew, then Barrett, then Melody's H-O-H is right? So, but then D here, who has now survived two votes that like really, yeah, obviously could have gone the other way. And it's like, we're not even considering that as far as like that she is the one that you should be terrified to sit next to, that she did that. But if that's the underestimation that it takes to get her to a final two chair, I'm sure she's ready to pull that out and go to town for it.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_04] But like if it's her versus Devins in the final two and it's just like, well, Devins saved himself via competitions more and he, you know, spun a chair into the diamond power of Vito. So he's the winner. It's like, well, it's going to be a little frustrating for me to digest, but we'll see. Yeah.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_05] And it's, I think probably one of the bigger differences between being there and watching is that like when you were actively trying to get one person out and allowed another person to come through, you feel like the person you tried to get out and failed is probably more impressive than the person that you chose to let through. Especially too, because like, it's a little easier on the ego to be like, well, I tried, but he just kept winning comps.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_05] What can you do versus, oh, I made the mistake of, of allowing this person to stay in the game. Um, so, uh, you know, while I do agree, I think that one is the, you know, I think the latter is more impressive than the former, uh, that, you know, it's, I think harder for the players themselves to feel that way.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah. Um, D I guess, or the benefit of when the social player is the one in this position that they're not automatically seen as having played a good game or a better game than the person who won a lot of comps is usually that person has the ability to start explaining it. So whether it be now, as she sends people off the jury or just in the, you know, 60 seconds that she has to talk to the jury to say, you know, something super impassionate about how, uh, you know, try to bring all these moves together. We'll see, you know, if she can use that opportunity to do so.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_04] But, uh, it is a skill that goes along with the skills that has saved her at this point.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_05] So drew, uh, drew talks to melody there again. Like when I say drew talks to melody, basically anytime there's downtime, drew is talking to melody. Uh, it's just that occasionally they bring up something strategic. Um, drew at one point in the day mentions to melody. I think I have to take Taylor to the end. Um, that's what he says at one point in the day, but don't worry. There's going to be more later.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_05] Then he has a conversation with D drew and D and he asks if D knows how she's voting. She says she has to vote out melody. She does want melody to say, but she can't keep her. Uh, and drew kind of quickly moves on. Uh, he's like, well, I hope, you know, that if it's us in the final three, we can't take devins. And he's like a hundred percent and they go over jury votes. Uh, the devins obviously wins, but like the two of them against each other, that is, it's actually a bit of a contest, right?

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_05] Like D probably has Angela and Lala, but he probably has Barrett and melody. Um, D probably has devins. And she's like, I don't know. I feel like, I don't even know if I definitely have Lala, but, uh, but I, you know, I probably feel more comfortable having or more confident that I'd have devins than Lala, but it's, you know, who knows? Um, and then it's like, well, and then there's Taylor and Yash and they might decide it.

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_05] So, you know, it's kind of like, you know, all, all's fair. Uh, like, let's just go for it. Like whoever can convince Taylor to vote for them in the jury, uh, then like that's, it comes down to that versus devins who is just going to win for sure. And he does say he's a little worried about what devins intends to do. Like this devins want to take Taylor to the end. Um, and this is closer to where I want him to go, but he doesn't fully connect it to the argument of keeping melody.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_05] Uh, more so just, you know, worry about devins in general, sort of toward the end of the game. Uh, he says everyone since the beginning of the game has said devins wins in the end. And he, you know, he, he means melody. Uh, it's a lot of melody talking to him about how devins is going to beat him. Uh, and she says, well, devins has told me he's taken me to the final two. I'm sure he's told you the same. And he's like, yes, yes, he has.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_05] Uh, and so this is a, this was a bit of a leap here for D, but, uh, this is, I think like another domino falling for drew in terms of devins. He's been told by melody devins beats you. You have a shot against D, uh, which by the way, I think that melody, like a huge part of this too, is that D has been working so heavily on melody over the last few days that like, I don't think melody from a couple of weeks ago.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_05] That was like, I hate D so much. I never, I don't even want her to get second place money would be saying these things if she hadn't come around so hard on D, uh, in, in, uh, the last couple of days, which has helped true come around. Uh, and so they both admit to each other that devins is promising them both final two.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_05] And so this like gives them the sort of moral, uh, day pass to be like, all right, now we don't even have to feel that guilty cutting him. Do we? Because he's, he's doing the same thing.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_04] I also can't emphasize strongly enough. Like we've talked a lot about over the course of the season, the drew and devins father son relationship. Oh, they're so cute. It's so fun. The drew and D like brother, younger brother, older sister relationship is like huge of a factor here. They, I think like that, like dynamic between the two of them is something that is like incredibly genuine and something that will go on. I think beyond the season for a long time to come. Whereas like, I don't know.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_04] I'm now I'm just speculating people's personal lives, but devins has a family. Like he'll call drew every once in a while, but like, I could see D on the phone with drew like regularly. Like, how's it going? Like, uh, how's melody doing? What are we up to? She specifically said yesterday, you better call me if there, if you ever get into trouble, if there's ever anything going on and you don't call me, I'm going to be mad at you. Uh, you, you're like a younger brother that I always, I never knew I wanted that I've never had just like they have, they are so. Friendly with each other.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_04] And let me wind it back to the beginning of the day, the hairbrush gate between the two of them was resolved where, uh, drew, uh, the night before D had hid drew's hairbrush. She's just being silly about it now. It's not trying to get at him.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_05] Um, she had a prank war kind of, uh, he hid her sunglasses.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_04] Um, this morning starts with both of them giving those items back to each other and they're hugging and they're laughing about it. That's so funny, dude. I can't believe you hit that. I can't, I couldn't see it up there. That's so they are just so close and, and that I think could be such a big factor in just how the rest of this way goes. I mean, I think that drew keeping D over Yash was not just like, Oh, I'm afraid of Yash in the game. I want him to go. You know, I don't think I can beat him, but also I like D more. And I really wouldn't be surprised if that factors into just more of how this end game plays out with the two of them.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. Uh, D has definitely been putting in a lot of work with drew, uh, really since, um, since the, uh, since she stayed on Barrett's HOH really. Yeah.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_04] Since he addicted her. And then she said, it's fine. I forgive you. I'm like, she never once said like, I'm going to come after like the way she went after Barrett after all of that. She did the complete opposite with drew said, we're still good. We're still best friends. She said the sentence, you're, you're still my little weasel a hundred thousand times since then. And like, she means it like she really still likes the kid.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. And so it's, it's an interesting development and a huge coup for D if she's able to get drew to bring her to the end because, you know, drew in the final three has a much better chance of beating devons. Now, can she be drew is another question. I think probably, but if drew is the one that makes the big decision to cut devons and bring D there is a chance.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_05] He wins the respect he needs from a player like Josh, uh, maybe even melodies in their convincing Barrett. And now all of a sudden there's three votes. Um, and you know, that means D needs to pull all of devons, uh, Angela. Lala and Taylor, which, you know, could be, could be difficult, but who knows?

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_05] Um, so, uh, she says, yeah, she says the thing about final two D, uh, brings up the Taylor thing that she's like, oh yeah. And I guess like Taylor hasn't pissed anybody off. So like there's a chance she could win. He's like, oh, absolutely. And even Barrett would vote Taylor. And she goes, he told you, he says, yeah, no, no. She, he told melody who told him, but fair enough.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_05] She goes, oh, uh, and they bring up that Yash could be a big advocate for Taylor in the jury. And that would be pretty dangerous because Yash is a really like well-respected player in the game. So if, if Yash is an advocate for Taylor in the jury, which he might not be for the record.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_04] Uh, I don't know if he will be, I mean, he could be, but I, I could almost more see him advocating. Like if there is D or Taylor, I'm more inclined to think he's going to vote for D.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_05] Um, Yash is pretty comp focused. I think in general, when it comes to how he's viewing the players, uh, there was, uh, an exit interview question that was like rate the players on their gameplay or something. Uh, and he had Taylor pretty low, which does track with like him wanting to vote out Taylor over Lala, uh, because he felt like Lala was a more valuable ally because she could win more things.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_05] Um, so, uh, so that is obviously, you know, a concern for Taylor if she gets there. Though I do think similarly, if she were to win the final three HOH and make a big move and cut Evans or something, that could be what it takes for Yash to, to sort of, uh, come over to that side. Either way though, it is, uh, oh, you know, they can't know this for sure.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_05] Uh, all they know is that Yash and Taylor had a very good relationship and that obviously there's a very real chance that Yash could advocate for Taylor on the jury. Um, it would be negligent to assume that he's not going to do so. Uh, so she says, uh, that, um, you know, they, they both agree that that could happen and they come back to Devin's. They're like, okay, well, what do we, do we think Devin's is going to cut us at the final four to take Taylor to the end?

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_05] If so, we need to make sure he thinks that the final three with of us three is really good for him. He, he, we need to both still convince him, keep him comfortable thinking that we're both going to take him to the end because he, any, any, and that he thinks he'll win. Right. So like make Devin's feel like, okay, my ideal final three is drew and D they both take me. I went against both of them. Uh, that would be the best case scenario because then in reality they would take each other and they would have the best shot that they can.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_05] Um, and, uh, and drew at this point is like, yeah, you know, everyone on the internet is probably going to be like, all you do is work for the icons all game. But like, dude, I was working with them. They they're players too. What do you want me to do? Um, and, uh, it's like, you know, that's, yeah, that's pretty much, uh, it's not just the internet either. There's the jury.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_04] I mean, uh, yeah, I'll get an early plug in for, uh, the diary room podcast when we're going to end up talking about all these players. And, um, I feel like, you know, at this point in the end game, uh, it's not looking good for drew up against the people that are left. I think there's obvious, um, flaws in his game that have gotten him to this point that his only options are possibly going against D, uh, like that's his end game or Devin's like you having to choose between the two of them.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_04] If this ends up being the final three, uh, but on a broader scale, I do think that I'll, I'll have, I'll have a lot to talk about when it comes to drew. Um, as far as just like what you were saying earlier, what he and D both do of just like, they're so persistent. They're so on the game. Like there's never time that drew is not trying something that he's not talking. Okay. Actually not never have been melody spend a lot of time just cuddled up in bed together or cuddled up on the couch outside where, uh, but, but almost all of the rest of the time that he's not doing that, uh, he is doing some sort of

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_04] gaming. Um, and it's, I think for me, a matter of like, there's a lot, uh, that went into him or there's a lot that he showed as a player, but decisions that he made along the way, I think are his biggest flaw. Whereas like, I probably would still pick him pretty high going into a future draft. If he was like coming back for all stars, like I have a lot of faith in him, but this season and the exact path that he took to where he got, uh, I think is where points are going to come off, whether it be in the jury or in just general discussion going forward. Mm-hmm.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. He says, uh, sure. Details him that she would never forgive herself if she took Taylor and lost when she could have given the wind to one of her friends. And he says, I agree as a fan of the show. One of the three of us has to win. And it was funny because he said this right around the time the episode was airing last night. And he said the same thing in the diary room. He said, he means it as a fan of the show.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_05] One of the crossovers has to win this game. Um, I also think he means it because of that. Uh, that doesn't necessarily mean he won't take Taylor to the end if he thinks he for sure beats her, but I could see if he thinks it's a toss up between Taylor and D, which is better. He would lean D just because he would rather be up against D in the final two. He would rather lose to D in the final two.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_05] I do think he, he really leans in that direction. Uh, and so.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_04] Which is why I think he also got rid of Yash too. I think, uh, both of them were, were, were big targets in the game, big threats in the game going forward. But he had this feud with Yash all for a lot of the season. Uh, not like super overt, but like that they both were gunning for each other. Uh, and the opportunity came to make sure that he beat Yash in the game. Uh, and, and he would rather lose next to D. I think the same thing is going to continue happening with Taylor.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_04] I would be, like you said, there's still time and obviously it's not a 0% of possibility, but, uh, I would be really surprised just knowing what we've seen of Drew through 76 days. Uh, if he made the decision to take Taylor to the end and possibly lose to her, I just don't think he has that. I don't think he has that desire.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. Uh, he also finally says that, uh, if he wins the HOH and the veto next week, he will have her cast the eviction vote, uh, because he doesn't trust Devin's to evict Taylor. Uh, he would trust D more to evict Taylor. Um, so we'll see. Well, that'd be interesting.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_04] I mean, what happens there? Uh, Drew's HOH and wins veto. D has the vote to evict. I mean, she knows that Devin's is a big threat and like the whole, we know we have to cut each other at some point. It's just like, does she find that to be the right time to do so? Uh, which is what, well, cause that's not what Drew wants. Drew just said he wants Taylor to go there. I don't know.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_05] Uh, it's just like, it's really, I mean, if that, if D has the option, given this conversation with Drew, there's a very real argument that D should cut Devin's at the final four. Uh, and reason being what we just discussed, if Drew really would choose D over Taylor in the final three, then so many things open up. Number one, Drew doesn't get the move to cut Devin's at the final three.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_05] He'll get the move to cut Taylor and bring D, which is way worse looking. Uh, number two, Taylor still might take D over Drew. It's possible. Uh, we don't exactly know what Taylor's thinking in terms of who she can beat in the end, but Taylor has talked about Drew having a chance to win this game. Uh, just as much as she's talked about D being a threat to win this game. And D certainly has a much better relationship with Taylor.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_05] So it's not impossible that Taylor takes D over Drew though. You know, that's the sketchier one. Um, and it gives her the option to, to potentially take Taylor if she feels like Drew was too impressive at the final four, uh, or something along those lines. Um, now, uh, of course there's risk in that Drew could cut her and take Taylor. And that would obviously be pretty, uh, bad. Um, but it eliminates the risk of Devin's just straight up winning the final three HOH and therefore winning the game. Yeah.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_05] So there's this, you know, it's opened some doors. This whole interaction with Drew.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah. And if you're like, Oh, Drew is going to be upset that Taylor didn't get evicted, that D didn't do what they discussed. It's not going to be hard to convince Drew that like we had the shot. We had to take it. Like you understand that, right? Like it's not maybe the perfect time.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_05] She probably talks to him before. Yeah.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_04] And she says, should we do this? We, we have to do this right now. It's you and me to the end. I'm going with you. I'm doing this for us, not just for me. Um, so I don't think it's going to be hard to explain. And I don't think that's going to push Drew.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_05] I'll take all the heat for it. He'll be so mad at me. You're going to get his jury vote. Yeah.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_04] Easy peasy. Yeah. So, whoa, what a game.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_05] We'll see. We'll see.

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[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05] All right. So D talks to the cameras afterward. She says, listen, I wanted to take the little weasel out, but it seems like he thinks he has a chance to beat me. So I'm going to keep pressing that in his mind. Oh, I pissed Barrett off. He's not going to vote for me. Oh, I pissed Yash off. He's not going to vote for me. And then a little bit later, she says that she references the conversation she had had with him before. The night before where he had said she had asked him who he's taking to the final two. And initially he was like, what? I can't tell you that.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_05] So she needs to keep pushing that he can't beat Devin. She feels like she's made some progress on Drew here, but she still doesn't fully trust him. And she's still concerned about like if Devin's is still in the game, then Drew might want to take him. And so this again is another reason why she might think about cutting Devin's at final four is that it doesn't give Devin's the opportunity at final three to convince Drew in the other direction again to take him. So. Devin's we'll see.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_05] Nothing that D has said is like fully full on said she plans to cut Devin's at final four. But I feel like I know D and I feel like the pieces are lining up a little bit that it is possible. It is possible here.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah. Drew was also talking about like, oh, how cool would that be if like I got to sit next to you while you became the first ever winner of Big Brother and Survivor? And it's like, I don't know if that's what you want your legacy to be, that you handed her that by bringing her to the end. But you would be a part of history. That's for sure.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. Drew talks to Melody some more. It's more long conversations. There's some like teasing and stuff about them kissing and all that nonsense. But but they have like what feels like one like probably the most because they've had this they've had this many times before. In fact, I think I was on a podcast with I don't remember who it was. It was somebody and they were like, oh, man, this is it for Drew and Melody. And I was like, that's what they've thought like three times before.

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_05] And then wouldn't you know it? She survives the double eviction and they're still there. But this time it really actually felt like this is probably goodbye. This is probably it. She's telling him you made top four. And he's like, yeah, with three people, I probably can't beat. She's like, well, still. And he says. I should probably take D. Not Taylor. You think so?

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_05] And she says, I don't know. And I think, again, I don't think she says, I don't know if D hasn't done as much work on her as she does. I think that she's like absolutely not take Taylor because she'd rather, you know, him either beat Taylor or lose to Taylor rather than, you know, beat D or lose to D. But but D has done that work. And this is this is another like it's an indication that what we're saying is is actually here like he is.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_05] This was a full on like stream of consciousness thought from from Drew. He's thinking he might want to take the even over Taylor.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_04] I mean, how many different ways can we say that it really feels like Drew and Melody are kind of on the same page of like we want to be happy with the winner of the season. If it can't be Drew or Melody, then Drew or Melody would rather be Drew or D. One of those two people winning is what we're happier with. We've been trying to get Devin's out, obviously, just they might not be miserable at the idea of Devin's winning like they would think that he deserves it and they would respect him as a winner. But they don't want him to win.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_04] So, yeah, there's just but but also, of course, I agree that the work that D has done with both of them has put them in this position. Just even like when Melody walked away from the conversation with D earlier being like, yeah, I think she wants to keep me, but she just doesn't want to piss off Devin's. It's like you are so far off there. She does not want to keep you. But if she's convinced you of that, fantastic. Later, when D talked to Drew and Drew was like, oh, did you tell her that you're evicting her yet? And D was like, no.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_04] Like, well, you know, I guess I can see it both ways of like, why would you tell her versus why wouldn't you tell her just yet? That I'm sure right before the eviction takes place, she'll probably, you know, get in her ear and be like, I'm so sorry. I just can't do it. And there will be a little bit of that. But regardless, Melody is about to go to jury without any sour feelings towards her. And I mean, I would say that's the case for most of them, but just with a little bit of an elevated level of like appreciation for D as a person.

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah, and I'll say it one more time. I think that like Devin's is just kind of asleep at the wheel here. I think that Drew's mind shift has taken place over the course of the last couple of days. And he's been mostly left alone to have that mind shift take place. I think that if Devin's were in there having many as many conversations with Drew as D is. It's a lot harder for Drew to come to this conclusion.

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_05] In the same way that when Barrett was HOH and he holed himself up in the HOH room, it left D alone with Yash and Taylor and she was able to flip them. And it's one of those things because this happens all the time. Like we're in the endgame and it's easy because there's not much else to talk about. It's easy to harp on like the mistakes that the players are making in the endgame. And then they win the competition anyway and it doesn't matter.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_05] And it's like we just spent like the last week talking about the mistakes that they were making as they go on to win the game because they won the competition anyway. So like take it with a grain of salt.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_04] What do people want like a two-minute podcast of like this person won the competition? That's it? Now we move on.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_05] I do think this is a big mistake even though Devin's is still probably the frontrunner to win this game just because he's probably going to win the competitions. Yes. This is you know, this was unnecessary and it is leading him to have worse odds going into finale night.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_04] It's the Yash thing. It's that Yash went into the double eviction and Yash. I'm still you know, we're still going to call him the most likely to win the game because all he does have to do is win this one comp and he wins a lot of comps. But when he doesn't win that comp, it's game over. And that's that feels like just exactly what we're talking about with Devin's here. The Devin's is still pretty likely to win. And but if he loses this one veto competition this upcoming week, I would put him at the what like 99% chance to be evicted at this point. Just the way that we're talking out. Maybe that's a little too high, but I think it's a bit high.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah, I like to be dramatic. So just it feels pretty likely that we end up there.

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_05] Well, she does say Melody says to Drew, I don't want anyone else to win other than you. And he says, well, tell the jury that tell them how good I'm playing. She says, well, you are winning a lot. He's like, not as much as Yash. She's like, you just need like one more veto. He's like, and the final HOA.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_04] Melody might go on to be, I'm sorry, just one of like the worst jury advocates you could ever hope for. Have we seen her trying to play this game and like spend all that? She's going to find a phone in there and she's going to call her mom every day or she's going to hang out with Barrett, maybe hang out with Yash. She will not speak more than like a hello to Angela. Maybe she'll talk a little bit to Lala. But like, if you think that she's going around that house being like, so Drew's actually been doing a lot of like, no, absolutely not. You don't know, Melody, if you think that there's a chance of that happening.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah. Well, I mean, like, like I said, I think this is at least a little bit of what I was hoping for from Drew in terms of asking her to do it. But the next step is like giving her actual points to say, and he didn't quite get there. Now, granted, he has had these conversations with her where, you know, like he knows, he knows the perception that the jury has of him. He knows the perception is that he's a vet pet and he did everything the vets want.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_05] And he knows he needs to probably escape that narrative if he wants to win the game. You have you have it in front of you, right? Like tell Melody, I worked with the vets. I used them to get here and I am not loyal to them. I plan to cut Devin's going into the end game because I know I can't beat him. Instead, kind of what he's saying is like, maybe I should take D instead of Taylor. Right.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_05] And she might still go to the jury house and be like, oh, he actually doesn't plan to go to the end with Devin's. And they might be like, oh, really? And then she might say, yeah, he plans to go to the end with D. And they'll go, oh, yeah. Right. Like the message should be I've I've I've played up. I've wormed my way in like a parasite under Devin's wing as his as his son in the game.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_05] And he's going to be real shocked when I win that final three H.O.H. and I cut Devin's and I go on to win this game and then do it. Fulfill the prophecy. And the jury is like, wow, he he called his shot. And it's still kind of it's there. It's there, but he's making the jury do all the narrative work. Give Melody the narrative so that she goes into the jury, whether she's active about it or not.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_05] If they ask her, she can then say the narrative to them rather than. So who does Drew plan to take to the end then? Oh, well, he was thinking D like. Oh, I don't know about that.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. Obviously, again, lots of intriguing options or possibilities about how this endgame play out, regardless of what's happening in the jury. There are still I mean, this round is pretty settled. We know what's about to happen later today. Right.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_05] We think that I would assume at this point that the normal veto ceremony time will also include the eviction.

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_05] And then who knows about HOH is kind of the main question.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_04] I would assume tonight at some point. And then we go on to have the veto. What in like a day or two? Probably.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_05] I mean, it would be nice if they played before the roundtable tonight. I just I don't know. Like I'm checking my schedule and hopefully they can check their schedule. And if we could just coordinate that pretty well, that would be nice.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_04] Send Melody off to the production office and see if she can put in a good word for you. But yeah, we'll see. I mean, so if Melody is probably out here today, that's kind of done and dusted. But the final four eviction is going to be a big one. The final three eviction is going to be a big one. I'm not breaking any ground with that commentary, but there's some pretty big names in the game. And who decides to cut who at the right time or the wrong time means a lot.

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_04] I mean, again, I do feel like there's a lot that Drew could point to this game besides, you know, his perception as a vet pet that he could say that he didn't that he accomplished. But it's hard to not have the, you know, sticking by the vet sides and evicting Yash and evicting, you know, Angela and all that stuff. Or at least D and sticking by D and Devin side. Like some of that perception is just going to be impossible for him to overcome. But if he can pull this off and evict Evans at four or three or whatever, that could go a long way.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_04] It's still hard to say the final vote here could be very close. But who knows? A lot of competitions to play out still. So we're not done yet.

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_05] Well, I will be back tomorrow morning, 11 a.m. Eastern to update you on everything that happens today, including the eviction. There is still a small chance that this twist means more than just a sped up eviction. There will be some kind of extra element to it. They were speculating it's possible. Maybe what if everyone has a vote? They've planned for a few different contingencies. So if anything weird happens, I'll let you know, of course, tomorrow.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_05] And then hopefully we do have the final four HOH winner tomorrow morning as well to give you the sort of like analysis on what that means. So stay tuned for that. Of course, as I mentioned tonight, the roundtable, 6 p.m. Eastern. 6 p.m. Eastern. 6 p.m. Eastern? 6 p.m. Eastern? 6 p.m. Eastern? Yeah, that's what he... Sorry, 6 p.m. Pacific.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_04] I was like, no, that's really early. Just clarifying.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_05] Yeah, yeah. Sorry about that. Normal time. It's the normal time. It's 6 p.m. for me. It's 9 p.m. Eastern. And so the survey will... I'll probably try to wait until after the thing, just in case, after the veto ceremony slash eviction. And then we'll put up the survey and we'll see where things go from there. But we'll have plenty to talk about, I'm sure, tonight. So stay tuned for that.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_05] And of course, check out my Patreon. I'll be streaming... I'll be streaming Trader's New Blood today on my Patreon as I watch the first couple episodes. It's been a little bit behind, of course, because of Big Brother. But I'm going to be checking it out. And that's about it. Matt, what do you got going on?

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_04] Yeah, New Blood's off to a good start. So I'm sure you will enjoy it, seeing the fresh faces there. Also covering that season as well over on the Free Agents podcast with myself and Brian Scali. And we're talking a little bit about the new cast for Season 6. Mostly have just had that on Patreon, but we're going to be drafting with Pooja this week over there. So lots of stuff happening on the Free Agents podcast. I mentioned it earlier, but the Diary Room podcast, always a fun time, especially as we approach the Big Brother offseason.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_04] You won't go a week without Big Brother content in your offseason if you want to come join us there. So we're trying to find the best player in Big Brother history. We have an episode with Mike Bloom this week and next week. Amon didn't want to say it for some reason. He thought that I'd get mad at him. But the following week, we did talk to Big Brother 10's Michelle Costa. So that was a fun one. Fun to get her takes on everything and lots of Big Brother 28 discussions still to happen there. And finally, Dancing with the Stars.

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_04] We had our premiere recaps. The first two episodes that happened last week, Sasha and I broke them all down. And plenty more of season to go. We're just getting started. We had still 14 couples left to go for Dancing with the Stars. So we know Dancingwiththestars.com will take you there for all of our coverage right here on RHAP. So come hang out with us. We go live on Tuesday nights after the episode. So Big Brother season again, winding down. But if you're still looking for a live chat to come hang out in, we'll be live every Tuesday night.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_04] It's a little later, but a lot of fun. So come join us for all that. That's all I got.

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_05] All right. Well, that is what we have for you then today. Thank you all so much for joining us. And I will see all of you next time.