BB27 Thursday Live Feed Update August 28, 2025

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[00:01:12] Was für heute? Oh, der Team ist ein paar Mal. Hallo, und gut. morning welcome to our live feed update for august 28th i'm your host jen armstrong and i'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday the big brother 27 live feeds it was day 51 in the

[00:01:31] house and more campaigning going on there's proposed sleepovers going on there's going on all kinds of things to talk about today and with me to talk about it all until i didn't chantelle i'm doing really well and i can't believe it because he has a girlfriend at home but i'm kind

[00:01:57] of shipping vorgan i'm vince or mints vorgan i got i'm shipping it um this is the big topic of the day chantelle uh people are shipping them people are condemning them people are condemning the shippers people are it's all over the place i'm being condemned now my god they're gonna burn me at the

[00:02:20] stake but i don't know i there's something about it that i i kind of enjoy yes well we will talk about it plenty here today of course as you know vince is the hoh he nominated ava mickey and kelly mickey then won the veto we saw that in the episode last night uh she used the veto catherine was the

[00:02:45] replacement after much to do uh and now the vote will fall between two of ava catherine or kelly um it's been a relatively straightforward vote to this point with kelly being evicted if she doesn't win the blockbuster and then catherine being evicted over ava uh in the event that kelly does win the blockbuster meaning ava is safe no matter what and catherine and kelly leaves unless she wins um however

[00:03:15] the day before day 50 morgan expressed some significant interest in keeping kelly over catherine um for a few different reasons one was that catherine said she was a vote for rachel in the jury uh she felt like catherine was uh more connected socially kelly's gonna go up on the block um and another big part of it too i think that we especially realized yesterday is that um mickey has been

[00:03:44] campaigning for catherine to stay and because of that uh they uh want or morgan in particular wants mickey to not get what she wants uh because if mickey wants it that's probably bad for her because she doesn't want mickey to have a number and so that's maybe another reason why you would keep kelly around who does not get along with mickey um and so uh many reasons why but morgan wants

[00:04:09] something and when morgan wants something she pushes hard to get it which is like great um you know we've seen these people that are on the block right now and the only person that i really see kind of talking to people and kind of working on staying in the game really is catherine and so you know morgan i like the fact that like okay you know she has this connection with finn she's in power right now she might as well get her agenda across like she might as well get what she wants and so

[00:04:39] if that happens to be having catherine go just to spite morgan or despite mickey so be it i'm okay with it so that's really where we start the day morgan continues to campaign against catherine um we've seen her obviously if she like if she pushes hard enough she we know she's able to get vince to basically do whatever she wants um the bigger problem is that uh she can't

[00:05:08] really do it alone um you know in a spot where it's kelly versus catherine um you you don't really have the votes at all uh if you're morgan unless you have all of the judges backing you not to mention the fact that she obviously wouldn't want to break from the judges just for this vote so she needs to convince the judges uh and that means ashley will rachel um and then you know just

[00:05:36] to a smaller degree people like ava or mickey would help um but uh she does start talking with rachel and rachel i think uh takes a very smart tactic with this vote considering that it's not that important which is yeah i'm good either way whatever you guys want i mean and it's also really good to take any sort of you know focus off of her she just had a big week people that's really

[00:06:05] hasn't fully settled with riley leaving and so like if she wants to hopefully fade back into the shadows maybe not cause too many waves so whoever wins next week won't be likely to put her up up um i definitely think it's a good tactic to be like hey man whatever you guys decide i'm on board let's just do it so yeah i agree great great position to take yeah and she still has opinions and you know uh she's participating in the discussion but she's very willing to concede to what they're looking

[00:06:35] to do i thought it was a very well played day from rachel here um and uh and so earlier in the morning and not really morning but like uh earlier in the day uh rachel is starting to agree with some of the points that morgan is making uh katherine is more well connected in the house and not only is mickey trying to work with katherine but even keanu is talking about how katherine is a stronger asset to have in the game than kelly he will not vote against kelly he will be casting a sympathy vote

[00:07:04] for kelly regardless um but uh but he does see the value in keeping katherine potentially because she's uh potentially a stronger player and again asset to go against other people in the game like morgan mickey ashley whatever um and so the fact that keanu seems to want to keep katherine around that also makes them feel like maybe we don't want katherine around and i i get it um i mean i think

[00:07:33] they need to think about all the points that are being made and actually make the decision in that way because if it's like oh like let's do exactly the opposite of what either keanu or what mickey wants like that's actually not necessarily doing what's for your best interest so look at their points and i think that there's valid points and valid reasons for for keeping either one of them but then do it for yourselves not to do it to really despite even though despite is kind of fun for tv and

[00:08:00] for the audience but for your own game like look at the points and think of what's actually best for you right and well the thing about this is of course that keanu doesn't i think really want katherine to stay over kelly i think it's partially just what he's saying um he uh he has expressed you know pretty significantly that he would like for kelly to say i think that he thinks it's a bit of a losing battle um and so he's starting to invest in katherine but i think if he if he could get his way he would

[00:08:29] keep kelly around and when it comes to mickey yes she is trying to keep katherine around but that's because she doesn't realize that katherine still doesn't really care much about her uh and um you know that's that's part of that uh because at the end of the day we can talk all about and we will to some degree all the intricate twists and turns through the day of you know who convinced who and when did it go here but all we really need to do to figure out who's going to leave this week

[00:08:58] is to figure out who keanu doesn't want to leave this week um and then we will know it's it doesn't matter what anybody else does keanu decides the opposite so so keanu is the new like reverse oracle exactly it's kind of fun a fun barometer like how accurate has it been up until this point

[00:09:19] i can't think of a time he's ever gotten his way okay this is fun this is fun um okay so at this point what does he want he wants kelly to stay okay so kelly is going home um so uh in the meantime lauren is gonna have a little bit of a journey through the day um lauren is not sure what to do

[00:09:48] with the vote and she's still not really talking to many people so she of course goes to vince um she's like vince uh what do i don't know what to do with the vote i think i want katherine uh to stay

[00:10:10] but i don't i don't know what what do you think i was listening to her on like 3.5 and like still i'm like come on let's get it out like what are you trying to say here sorry to interrupt no uh basically she talks to him about uh wanting to keep katherine obviously but she's also kind of

[00:10:36] coming around to the idea of she'd kind of prefer kelly stay over ava too um and uh you know ava leaving might actually be the best thing for her game she's basically aligned with all three of these people ava has been talking with her and katherine about forming a little bit of a three uh but her and katherine are obviously even closer uh and then kelly has been talking with lauren for a long time

[00:11:02] and is you know much more isolated and willing to take shots that lauren would like her to take than ava who is a bit more passive and too close to some of lauren's enemies uh and so she i think to some degree rightfully is looking at what would be great if we could get ava out the problem is you don't really have the votes there um now lauren and keanu voting ava out would be two you need

[00:11:30] four plus vince's tiebreaker um and vince's tiebreaker is far from a given lauren you should know this um but uh if you pull the third vote as say katherine or kelly coming down off the block you need one more vote plus the tiebreaker um and so they're kind of wondering where they could get that vote lauren would like for vince to convince morgan to vote that way because she's under the

[00:11:59] mistaken assumption that vince influences morgan and not the other way around like how you can't see that uh it's very surprising that she is not getting a full picture of like the dynamic between vince and and morgan um i really hope i mean i don't know if she's actually going to make anything happen i think it's going to be like the people campaigning like i'm worried for ava because she doesn't really

[00:12:23] campaign very strongly or at all like she does mostly napping and stuff like that like i feel like she's not showing that she's an asset other than maybe a number at times and a number for people that you're not necessarily working with if you're if you're lauren and so uh i'm getting kind of worried though that maybe some traction might pick up for the rest of today and that ava might be in trouble in the end like kind of getting worried yeah so uh they talk about that vince says for his game

[00:12:51] it would be best for ava to leave and he's not entirely wrong there either although i'm not sure he means it um because ava is somebody that is against him and with his enemies and kelly for as much as she's also potentially against him as much as catherine is potentially against him at the very least those two are not with and i say enemies his alliance uh judges ava's a number for the rest of

[00:13:20] the judges and not for him catherine and kelly at the very least despite not being numbers for him are not numbers for the rest of his alliance so there is a lot of value to potentially taking ava out but of course from his perspective well but but they'll be mad at me if i get rid of ava they will so don't do it as you continually put yourself in the position where you can't

[00:13:46] do what you want uh they'll be mad at me if i didn't and he literally says this too like am i gonna ruin all of the goodwill i built up by not putting up rachel by taking out ava it's like how do you not see this is the exact same scenario you and lauren were in previously when you didn't put up ashley and then oh wait now we can't keep adrian either because then we'll ruin the goodwill we built up by not putting up ashley and man what a large amount of goodwill that was

[00:14:16] at least vince is playing a little bit right um but yeah i know he's really frustrating that he's just so it's so difficult for him to take a stance he'll just be like this is what i want this is what i want to do um like yes i'm gonna make some enemies or people might be mad at me for it but like it's not gonna stop me for doing what's in my best interest here when i have the power like he should be like yeah make a decision and then you can still build those relationships back it doesn't mean

[00:14:42] like it's completely over forever if you if you do something that people that you're working with or even not working with don't like and so i wish he just had a little bit more of a backbone and he's a little bit more of like a you know a gutsy player that wasn't so worried about disappointing and like upsetting people it's like come on appeasement is rarely a good strategy on big brother but especially

[00:15:06] uh if you are going to like look into the idea of it you have to look at the path in front of you when you start down that road of appeasement because if the appeasement is i'm in power and i'll throw this person a bone because they're a little side path off of the direction that i'm going and i'm going in this direction anyway sure appease a person um but if the appeasement is here's the path i want to take

[00:15:32] in the game and it's straight to my goal and the appeasement is turning around and going in the opposite direction and what that means is that like by not putting up rachel now you also have to appease the alliance on who to who you do end up evicting this week and then uh and then the following week it's like the same it's the same thing every time time after time you have a path in the game that you want to take that includes somebody like lauren the rest of your alliance doesn't like

[00:15:59] lauren they want her out and so if you appease them once you appease them again and and anytime at any point down that path you decide you want to stop all of that work was for nothing um and so you have to look at the paths in front of you before you make these kinds of decisions uh and you know vince very likely doomed lauren uh with that decision um and committed to a path that is not

[00:16:27] exactly amazing for him here so uh we will see but i wonder how he plays other games like is he this like worried about like he's playing monopoly like oh my god like they're gonna get mad at me like i got boardwalk and they landed on it i got the charges of red like does he get mad at those other games as well or not mad but like like worried about how people are going to be with him from like just playing the game is it only because it's with people and it's like the social dynamic

[00:16:52] with it because i'm like come on he has some gusto here he talks about he has like family and like you know his mom and all this stuff and like he you know he visits his family every sunday like do they play games like i don't know it's just very interesting his gaming sense is so of that of appeasement vince is absolutely the person i would play risk with in high school that i'd be like

[00:17:18] if you attack me it's over i'm spending the rest of the game hunting you down we'll both lose make your choice and he'd be like okay okay with the entire country oh my gosh risk oh that's a throwback i used to play risk all the time i'm charissa and my empfehlung an alle entrepreneurs startet mit shopify erfolgreich durch ich verwende

[00:17:46] shopify schon seit dem ersten tag und die plattform macht mir nie probleme ich habe viele probleme aber die plattform ist nie eins davon ich habe das gefühl dass shopify ihre plattform kontinuierlich optimieren alles ist super einfach integrier und verlinkbar und die zeit und das geld das ich dadurch spare kann ich anderweitig investieren vor allem in wachstum jetzt kostenlos testen auf shopify punkt de ich bin charissa und meine empfehlung an alle entrepreneur startet mit

[00:18:12] shopify erfolgreich durch ich verwende shopify schon seit dem ersten tag und die plattform macht mir nie probleme ich habe viele probleme aber die plattform ist nie eins davon ich habe das gefühl dass shopify ihre plattform kontinuierlich optimieren alles ist super einfach integrier und verlinkbar und die zeit und das geld das ich dadurch spare kann ich anderweitig investieren vor allem in wachstum jetzt kostenlos testen auf shopify punkt de ich bin charissa und meine empfehlung an alle entrepreneur

[00:18:40] startet mit shopify erfolgreich durch ich verwende shopify schon seit dem ersten tag und die plattform macht mir nie probleme ich habe viele probleme aber die plattform ist nie eins davon ich habe das gefühl dass shopify ihre plattform kontinuierlich optimieren alles ist super einfach integrier und verlinkbar und die zeit und das geld das ich dadurch spare kann ich anderweitig investieren vor allem in wachstum jetzt kostenlos testen auf shopify punkt de ich bin charissa und meine empfehlung an alle

[00:19:08] entrepreneur startet mit shopify erfolgreich durch ich verwende shopify schon seit dem ersten tag und die plattform macht mir nie probleme ich habe viele probleme aber die plattform ist nie eins davon ich habe das gefühl dass shopify ihre plattform kontinuierlich optimieren alles ist super einfach integrier und verlinkbar und die zeit und das geld das ich dadurch spare kann ich anderweitig investieren vor allem in

[00:19:30] wachstum jetzt kostenlos testen auf shopify punkt de morgan interrupts their conversation uh and there's like a small amount of pitching like what about ava leaving no no no ava's not gonna go uh anyway between katherine and kelly i'm thinking katherine needs to go and lauren's like oh wrong answer but um lauren just doesn't want to be on the wrong side of the vote that's what she

[00:19:59] tells vince um and uh and you know she ends up leaving this conversation morgan talks more with vince about uh taking out katherine she's continuing to give these arguments uh she does want vince to like check in with lauren and get whatever information she can about katherine um i think probably hoping that it will lead to some more damning evidence that she can use against katherine

[00:20:25] uh but uh we'll see what comes of that later they do talk again more with rachel uh who is open in either direction but leaning toward getting rid of katherine right now uh she thinks katherine is too close to ava uh like ava wouldn't put up katherine but she would put up kelly so many people are willing to put up kelly but again you know whatever you guys decide i'm pretty chill with it uh i don't

[00:20:49] really mind either way i personally think that katherine probably is a better player than kelly and kelly could be a target target and so i mean i think that they're on the right track with getting new katherine but like oh my god the showbats back to back like that's just so brutal like they're the they're not gonna ever forgive rachel for breaking up the entire and sending them to

[00:21:14] their homes it's not respectable it's not respectable yeah um so uh things got interesting during the episode when lauren who is finally starting to branch out you know like just a little bit you know just having some preliminary conversations about the vote you know she's thinking about wanting to make sure

[00:21:41] some votes could be there to keep ava over katherine at the very least she's talking with ashley in the train room um and she's you know they're whispering uh but you know pretty loud and um and lauren is talking about ava and and ashley says well i'm closer to ava you know what i mean um and and she's she's just now like i'm just now starting to talk you know what i mean like with katherine you know

[00:22:06] what i mean uh and so uh you know what i'm saying like uh so i mean obviously like i'd want ava to you know say you know what i mean um and lauren is like yeah yeah i i just i feel like i can trust katherine um when it comes to ava

[00:22:31] it's hard because i'm really close to her but you know against katherine i mean i don't want to be on the wrong side of the vote but against katherine and when it comes to ava i don't really know um and then if you're watching

[00:22:58] this video i'd like to direct you to the screen for a moment because this is um this is the visual of what's happening uh if you are listening to this podcast lauren and ashley are talking on one bunk bed bottom right ava is uh top left and though it may look like is she sleeping i can

[00:23:27] tell you she was not she was not sleeping she was hearing all of this because the second they uh left and uh walked away from this conversation ava goes and then starts like counting like votes and like

[00:23:47] she did look noticeably panicked um so the camera lingers on ava just like freaked out looking upset again you have to remember ava has been close with lauren since the beginning they had a final two at one point called the bond girls she's been talking a lot with the with her and katherine about being in a

[00:24:14] bit of a three uh and the fact that like lauren is saying she would vote for katherine to stay over her um maybe not that surprising but like the cavalier way with which she was like i don't know i i might vote with the house if that's what it came to but uh but she you know she's not necessarily a vote

[00:24:37] uh for her against katherine it seems to have made an impact on uh on ava who i think again felt pretty good with her um and in the meantime uh lauren has realized that ava was in the bed um and she's freaking

[00:24:59] out uh and she runs upstairs to talk to vince um vince um i think i just messed up um i was just talking about ava and she was in the bed uh he was like do you think she heard i don't know i don't remember

[00:25:20] what i said um uh she's just so one camera is that the other camera is ava freaked out it's it's phenomenal i i i caught the tail end of this originally uh right after the episode ended um and she's just freaking out eventually ashley comes in and she's like ashley um i think ava heard

[00:25:44] what we were saying uh and ashley's like oh no oh geez oh man oh what did i even say i don't think we said anything that bad i mean oh i was like what no never mind never mind it's not that but oh now some people are speculating that ashley knew that ava was there the whole time i don't think so

[00:26:12] but i don't think so either yeah the whole sequence was like it was really fun to watch where you see lauren come in back into the bedroom to check on to see if like ava's awake or not you know and like ava just i believe was just to play dead like she was just sleeping and that's when she ran upstairs to vince and like just seeing her like mind just going be like oh my god what did i say like

[00:26:37] replaying everything back to back to back um it was it was cinematic it was it was a great moment um and uh and so vinyan's up leaving eventually uh the up in the hoh room and and it's just lauren and ashley and um lauren's like do you really think it's like do you really did we say anything bad um and ashley's like i really don't think we said anything bad i mean i can't really remember i can barely

[00:27:01] remember i said but uh you know what i mean like i oh but we did say that she keeps doing she says i think we just don't say anything we just don't say anything we just hope she was sleeping don't say a word to anybody and hope it goes away and and lauren's like yeah yeah and it'll that'll get it out of our minds um and then like uh catherine rings the doorbell and she's like should we

[00:27:28] say and ashley's like i don't think we should say she's okay okay we're not gonna say anything catherine catherine hey and they don't say anything but of course ashley runs and talks to ava i mean just like going to temperature check a little bit being like what does she know she acting a little bit differently um vince did give like one tell like if she does come up here to campaign for you know my vote if it's if it's a tie she hasn't done that yet that could be an

[00:27:57] indicator that she she heard something to make her feel a little bit uneasy so that was a good potential indicator i mean here's the thing this is this is what it is lauren you have no practice talking game with people so you're making rookie mistakes you know you need to this is not that this is you got to get back up on that bike and try again lauren you know that's the only way

[00:28:19] you're gonna learn uh don't let it scare you off it might it might but or check like the room like it's not even like she was like hidden like if she's like blatantly right there uh it's not like you know when they're in like the bathroom in the head of household you know what i mean i'm pretty sure that when we saw the house photos pre-season uh i did a stream and i talked about like oh that's interesting because what if somebody's like up in a bed somewhere and you don't realize it like

[00:28:48] this would be so easy and it's happened multiple times this is not even the first time ava has overheard a conversation because she's just hanging out in that bed all the time uh you know it's it's not easy to check all of the beds just at a glance you need to sort of like walk the room to do a perimeter check uh and so you know uh not to mention the fact that ava like just blends in

[00:29:10] the bed a lot yeah um so uh while they were upstairs ava talks to rachel um downstairs and she's like uh rachel's like how are you feeling she's like rachel's like what you don't need to be concerned with the vote or anything is she's like ah frankly i'm just concerned that people aren't gonna do what they said they were gonna do

[00:29:39] uh and rachel's like you have the votes for sure uh like you know you have me and you have ashley and morgan and will uh and those those votes are locked and vinny will break the tie for you um so like and i'm sure you have lauren too and she goes not sure i have lauren oh

[00:30:03] so heartbreaking moment for her against katherine you know it doesn't even matter if you have lauren we've got the votes anyway you don't need to matter um and uh and this this genuinely could be a significant turn of events here because um again ava was being pushed in the direction of uh or pulled i

[00:30:26] would just say in the direction of lauren and katherine um and away from rachel and she's always had an issue with ashley although that's been warming uh and uh and she's now like really hates mickey uh she was telling will early in the day like sorry but if i win hoh i'm backdooring the b

[00:30:50] not a fan at all um so uh this is significant because she now feels like a bit betrayed i think by lauren and uh and she is talking with people like rachel and ashley to get reassurance um and she says she's back to saying later in the day like you know the thing about rachel because before they were talking about like all the emotional manipulation that rachel does during the votes

[00:31:19] she's like you know what at least she pushes hard for her allies like she fights to the death uh for her allies lauren um so uh she's talking to rachel they they end up like you know chatting and um and and bonding a bit even in just this conversation uh and the growing over votes and how she i have a feels like she does not have keanu's vote she did talk to him earlier in the day and he told her he

[00:31:45] was voting for kelly no matter what uh and she says you know what frankly if what cost me 750 000 is that i didn't talk to keanu enough it's money well spent i actually overwhelmed and watched that many times because it was just so funny just how like we just wasn't expecting her to say that and she just like it came out of her and like i thought it was really funny i wrote it down because i'm like

[00:32:12] if you don't mention it i need to bring up this line it was it was a great eva line yes um so uh as i said ashley comes downstairs and uh and chats with eva in the shower um so it was a bit hard to hear but uh they were talking about the the interaction um and ashley was talking about how funny it was once uh she realized that eva overheard of course from ashley's perspective if she does remember everything she

[00:32:42] said like ashley is more trustworthy she was the one saying i'm closer to eva i'm keeping eva for sure it was lauren that really uh was saying some not as good things for uh about eva um and so ashley is telling uh eva like you don't need to worry whether or not we have lauren you have the votes these votes are locked they're locked and loaded and she's like like they're locked making her laugh um and it's

[00:33:12] like uh oh look at eva and ashley i love them together i do i mean like ashley i had like a week where she frustrated me but i've come around definitely on ashley and like i i do think that she has a good game sense uh she's funny she's entertaining and i love that she's working on this relationship with ava because that was a little bit of like a blind spot of hers so i i'm loving i'm loving this dynamic

[00:33:37] they're very cute um now uh ashley has also been talking with katherine a few times throughout the day uh i think that uh like she's making some some good progress here uh with with katherine um kelly not doing much

[00:34:01] kelly's being kelly um but uh really again throughout the day it's it's a lot of like a back and forth katherine versus kelly um katherine having more conversations with people some bonding but uh but for the most part it was like this uh like eavesdropping drama and um and you know this this bit of back and forth but there's more conversations about katherine versus kelly late and later into the

[00:34:29] night um morgan uh as i said had asked vince to get some information from lauren he comes back to her saying yeah i i'm hearing that like uh katherine is just kind of like humoring mickey that she's still pretty mad at mickey about everything um and not really a number for mickey and morgan's kind of like okay i mean if she's not actually a number for mickey then it's not as pressing to make sure that

[00:34:59] she leaves um and on top of that like they're talking more with rachel who kind of agrees um and discussing like who the jury votes would be and how kelly's never going to be a jury vote for rachel and she's like ah that's pretty annoying um and uh and rachel starts to come around to the idea of maybe we should just get out kelly that's kind of what my gut is telling me now um and uh vince seems to be more on

[00:35:25] that page as well um that he later says to the cameras he just feels like he's burned kelly three times now and she's never going to come back to him um and so uh morgan starts to reluctantly back down um she doesn't have rachel as much anymore uh vince is still like a tough sell and uh they haven't even really made any progress yet on ashley and will so uh it's starting to look like things are locking back

[00:35:55] in for kelly to leave well and what do you think about you know the someone in the jury voting for the winner based on loyalty and kindness how do you feel about that karen oh well it's uh it's all about who's the nicest as long as you're not rachel and if they're backstabby yeah no you can i mean you

[00:36:20] shouldn't be backstabby but as long as you're not rachel that's okay man i was like i was like when i was watching rachel and keanu have these conversations i'm like keanu can't you see that she's like like that's not the right argument for rachel she she wants people that are making moves and like if you're trying to keep kelly in this game but she's saying loyalty and kindness is what she's basing her vote on like there's no way that you're gonna be able to convince rachel

[00:36:46] that she should keep her but anyways he didn't really seem to pick that up uh he was kind of going around in circles with how he was trying to deflect that uh it was it was odd that he couldn't figure it out i mean again it's this is what i said at the beginning it's all about figuring out what does keanu want right i forgot he pitches more for kelly flips rachel back over like it's it's pretty easy

[00:37:12] you know i'm starting to really figure out this house it's really just what does keanu want do the opposite um that's it now do you think this only works with him in the house or do you think next season if he's doing any commentary um speaking about it if he wants something to go or if he's rooting for someone do you think it will still play out in the outside world or is it only within the house i think

[00:37:37] it's only within the house because part of it is that he can't help but try to get what he wants and every time he tries to get something it does the opposite so anti-influence i guess this is like what he has okay got it yes uh which is funny because he's such a big like motivational like uh self-help kind of like manifest uh what you want kind of guy um and uh and in the

[00:38:04] house if if he listen if he figured out his superpower and he started intentionally campaigning for the thing he doesn't want he would be unstoppable i mean the next dan geasling he would be an amazing player like that would be oh my gosh that'd be really cool to watch um is he actually also very good at chess because like the way that he was teaching lauren i was i was like oh my god he's so

[00:38:31] annoying so condescending and like anyways is he actually good like i only know how to move chess pieces i do not i am not uh like tracking the elo of the chess players but uh i do not believe he's great at chess okay because he's actually he's bobby fisher over there and like with how he's like you know teaching and mentoring lauren being like you know as long as you know what you're doing

[00:38:58] and like why you're doing it then it's still a good move and i'm just like okay but like then you just miss that move that kelly points out it's also very funny kenianuisms hey denk dran dass auch dein immunsystem hunger hat und probier es mal mit den gesundheitszielen zur ernährung in der app auk navida hol dir tipps rezepte und challenges für dein gesünderes ich jetzt die app auk navida downloaden und loslegen auk plus aus liebe zur gesundheit

[00:39:31] then you know there's it's it's a lot of a lot more of uh of morgan and vince um because morgan has started to back down on the uh kelly thing but she keeps kind of coming back to it um and like late late into the night she's like crying about it she's like all of a sudden like out of nowhere

[00:39:54] like oh i just feel so bad uh you know like uh she she's like she's always been told that she's too much and we're just gonna vote her out and i want to give her more of an opportunity and this is just i think another like final like final like hail mary grasp at like um you know without actually pushing can i push a little bit to see if we can get this vote back um but it's not really going

[00:40:21] anywhere uh especially because um from vince's perspective it seems like the only thing he's really focused on is trying to see if she's willing to stay up in the hoh room with him overnight because he asks about four different times so you're gonna sleep up here you're gonna stay up here

[00:40:45] yeah i mean she's beautiful they get along really well he's slowly got a head of household room here he he really wants her to win next week so that they could keep this room for another week together uh i get it yeah you know if you wanted to stay up uh if you wanted to stay up in here that would be that'd be like i wouldn't mind at all um and uh you know did you want to come back up um and

[00:41:15] you know oh man i really hope uh one that you win next week so we can keep the room um uh i could totally stay up here i was waiting for like we just have to be respectful be respectful i want to be respectful yeah uh listen it's we we started talking about this like at the beginning

[00:41:38] of the week and it has continually like heated up every single day and it's to the point where last night it was really uh it's it's pretty much all anyone's talking about this morning because the vote is not that interesting it's not we want we do i guess like riley and katherine weren't the love story that we wanted i've i've i've kind of more invested in this one i'm sorry i'm sorry i like love

[00:42:04] island i watched the bachelor like i love love shows so if we got a little bit here i'm happy those in those shows people are all over the place right like they're not super committed you're used to it yes definitely um this is not just something that we are talking about uh or that's being talked about

[00:42:30] on the outside either it is something that people inside the house are starting to notice and comment on um that uh there were a few different sort of pointed comments about how they are attached at the hip that uh they spend all of their time together ava was noticing like yeah they were i walked up there at like four in the morning last night and the two of them were like uh hanging out up there together

[00:42:57] um and uh that like she's you know bringing food back to him and uh that they're awfully close and uh you know this is not the first time that this has been commented on either uh they were all surprised or not all but some of them were surprised to find out that vince had a girlfriend a month ago um because they thought that there was something going on between the two of them uh so this is it is also

[00:43:24] pretty game relevant here uh in terms of what's happening with vince and morgan and we know you gotta break up a showman but you know let's let this week happen let's see what happens with the next vote or the next um head of household and and then we can decide if we want to split them apart but we we can have the love story for now right darren listen uh you're like i don't

[00:43:48] just want to i i cannot count myself amongst the shippers uh how dare you i'm sorry uh but uh i i definitely what i will say is again going back to the uh i i said it like a week ago at this point that like or close to uh he says he has permission to do this

[00:44:16] i would say at this point it feels incredibly unlikely to me that they're still together that the level of detail discussed involved what's happening yeah he hasn't really mentioned anything about it since and he really did seem like he was trying real hard to see if she would stay up in the hoh room with her and i yeah i don't know what's going on yeah i mean it's definitely hard

[00:44:42] when somebody has somebody on the outside world and so i'm not looking it from that perspective i'm just looking for what's going on here and so like i do i do hope that he has like he's made it clear with like the lines that he's willing to be crossing with his partner's relationship back home because yeah i don't want someone to be to feel like he's disrespecting them or like messing up their

[00:45:06] relationship so yeah i do feel bad in that sense i agree but what we're seeing i i do like yes well uh and and people in the chat like uh you know there are other kinds of relations absolutely uh and and i i by the way i think that there's a perfectly like you know people have different boundaries individually and as couples and i respect all of those boundaries uh i think that you you can

[00:45:34] absolutely be a very cuddly person you can be all kinds of different things uh i cast no judgment upon any of it uh we are just analyzing the situation as it is and based on what vince has told us um and uh you know that's that's the read that i have on it uh he has not mentioned anything about any kind

[00:45:56] of that kind of relationship um not that he necessarily needs to but uh you know it's it feel what i will say is it feels feels a little off i understand yeah i understand um but listen it's not the first time and it will not be the last time uh the the important thing is that it is definitely impacting uh both of their games specifically his since he was so heavily influenced by her this week

[00:46:25] uh and uh they are definitely rising uh up in terms of uh perception with the rest of the house with how they feel about the two of them uh together as a pair um so we'll have to wait and see what comes of it well yeah exactly we'll have to wait and see like who's head of household next week and if they're going to want to split them apart it's gonna be unrequited love you know it might be one of those

[00:46:53] kind of stories where they can't keep them together all right anything else to bring up chantelle um i just thought when uh just kind of to piggyback on you saying that rachel had a pretty good day today is that she had a conversation with katherine and i it was it was like quite nice where she just was like hey like i don't want to go to war with you like i feel i do feel bad about taking out riley on my head of household and and i really thought that even if katherine is still mad at rachel and still wants

[00:47:23] to come for her like i thought it was a good really good for her to come from a soft kind of kind of even maybe a little bit mothering perspective and like just relate a little bit to katherine i thought that was some good work that she did there to make katherine just not so ready to like aim at rachel necessarily but maybe to like be like okay like we can we can maybe get along and coexist in this house

[00:47:46] uh all right well uh that's about what we have for you then i will also mention um that i noticed this morning there are a couple of uh interviews with riley that have come out uh email only seemingly uh i do not have one uh i was not offered one um so uh you know don't don't expect one from me uh but

[00:48:13] uh i haven't really mentioned it because there's not really much to talk about uh that uh i think you know probably uh it's really honestly not even worth it's just it's just a bunch of pr stuff uh he does not admit any kind of significant uh responsibility or fault in them and uh it honestly doesn't even sound like riley in the interviews so uh that's that's really all worth all that's worth

[00:48:40] uh saying there um anyway that's what we have for you today i'll be back tonight after the episode to recap the episode tonight uh of course i'll be live during the episode as well over on my youtube channel and twitch channel uh so we'll see what happens we've had some fun thursdays so far but we'll see what happens tonight uh and i'll be back tomorrow morning um with a later start time uh

[00:49:05] because we should be talking to the evicted player tomorrow morning um although i guess we'll see uh and um and that's uh that's about it make sure you check out my book behind the mirror uh you can pre-order it at taryn armstrong.com um and uh check out uh all the other stuff we're doing chantelle what do you got going on well tonight i'm going to be on chapelle's channel

[00:49:30] recap kickback and talking about the finale of flavor of love season one i hadn't seen the season before and so we've been going back down on the origin of new york and it has been a time so i have not watched the episode yet so i don't even know how it all ends actually uh and so yeah you'll you'll see us recap that at 6 p.m on his channel tonight all right well thank you all so much for joining us here

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