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[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Hello everyone and welcome to RHAP. We are here tonight to talk about a janky world
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_06]: veto episode of Big Brother 26. I'm your host, Taran Armstrong and it's late.
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It's late tonight. There was a two-hour Survivor premiere.
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_06]: There was some Survivor podcasting that went on. Interestingly, with one of my guests,
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Omer. How you doing, Omer?
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Hello. You're gonna have to recap it for me too because I was on with Rob.
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, Omer straight off of the Survivor recap did not have a chance to actually watch
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_06]: tonight's episode. But here's the interesting thing about Big Brother.
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_06]: If you know what's happening on the feeds, do you even need to watch the episode?
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_06]: That is the question we're going to ask here or maybe answer here tonight. And fear not,
[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I have watched the episode as has my other guest, Amon. How are you doing, Amon?
[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm good. I'm good. Yes, I have watched the episode.
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_07]: So fear not. We are here to talk about it all.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_06]: In case you really needed the dirty details about that janky veto comp.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that janky is the cutest thing ever, though. What a little cutie.
[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that he's a bit of a troll. And so I like that. But yeah, I didn't.
[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Was the veto competition like really like low rent? Is that also what it was?
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_06]: It was fine. Basically, the veto competition was a in terms of like design for a competition.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was great. The outcome was great. We had Angela winning Leah getting place
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_06]: and and the the competition was that you had to take a bunch of differently sized circles
[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_06]: and fit them inside a larger circle.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Angela won that crazy.
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_06]: The queen. I think she might like puzzles.
[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they might be.
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I like her back.
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, she's missing one piece of the puzzle and that's my heart.
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I still yeah. Waiting to give it to her when she gets out of the house.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh man. Listen, it's dangerous to give Angela your heart.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_06]: It is. You might want to return to send it.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, she says with so much conviction every time somebody uses the veto on her like I have
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_08]: your back 100 percent no matter what. And then three days later, she's fucking them over.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, how would you feel if if Angela said when she came out of the house,
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I love all of my supporters, every single one of them.
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Except for you. Don't talk to me.
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my God. I would be so bothered, you know?
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_06]: All right. Well, here's the plan. Listen, it's late tonight.
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_06]: We did not get a lot of extra information from this episode.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to try and keep this a little tight on the East Coast.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_06]: We are approaching midnight.
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And by the time I think many of you are going to listen to this,
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_06]: you are either up with us right now and probably want to go to bed
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_06]: or you're watching or and or listening to this tomorrow,
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_06]: having also got update content, survivor podcast to listen to.
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And the eviction is coming right up.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_06]: So we're going to try and keep this short.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_06]: But listen, we're going to have a fun time doing it.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_07]: You know? Yes, we will.
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I think the old time it janky, janky old Tom, janky old podcast,
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_07]: janky old midnight. I'm here for it.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, OK, so what we saw here, I think the biggest headline was that Leah seemingly
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_06]: was very determined to not make the move she ultimately makes at the end of this episode.
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_06]: That's after Angela just listen, I'll give I'm going to tell Omar a little story.
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, Omar, you're you're mostly you're mostly caught up on the general happenings in the house, right?
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_08]: To some extent, I will say this is the season I've enjoyed the most,
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_08]: but possibly have kept up with the least.
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And but I from what my understanding is, is that Leah fell on the outs.
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_08]: She was going to backdoor Chelsea and then all of a sudden decided to backdoor T-Core.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, more so never really intended to backdoor Chelsea, turns out.
[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_06]: That's crazy. Why not?
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. That's the question.
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_06]: So Leah, the H.O.H. nominated Kimo and Rubina.
[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_06]: She tells us very quickly in the episode tonight that she is desperate to keep the
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_06]: nominations the same, that she does not want to get any more blood on her hands.
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_06]: She not only doesn't want to backdoor Chelsea, but doesn't even want to put T-Core on the block.
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_06]: She wants Kimo and Rubina up there.
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Kimo was the target at that point in time.
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, so she's talking about like, I need to win this veto so that I can keep my nominations the
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_06]: same. I hope that nobody wins the veto and uses the veto.
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_06]: And, uh, Omer's face was my face at various points throughout the week.
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And also I heard her say this in the diary room.
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_08]: This seems crazy because, you know, if it's three versus three versus two and one of your two is
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Angela, for fuck's sake, you would think that you would go after the stronger group of three, no?
[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_08]: You would. Yeah, one would think.
[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_08]: But, um. Happened to her in the Genki week.
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_08]: They weren't they like super tight? What happened to that?
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_08]: No. Girl, I'm clear.
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, were they not like final twos with each other?
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Like Chelsea, Leah and Mackenzie?
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_06]: They they were tight when Matt was in.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_06]: They've been I would I would classify them as like.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Buddies at best and frenemies at worst the rest of the season.
[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_07]: You know that that gift that's now famous with Leah, where she's walking in smiling and then
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_07]: crying afterwards, immediately after.
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_07]: That's kind of like the relationship, really.
[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_07]: It's just like it's like it's crazy.
[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_08]: This was the perfect opportunity, you would think to put up to like the two put that she put up.
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_08]: You use the veto so you ensure that you have two votes to keep.
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_08]: The like if you take off chemo and put up Chelsea, you have two votes to keep Rubina no matter what.
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_08]: And Angela like that, that's crazy to me.
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_08]: This is crazy.
[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_08]: So what's her plan moving forward?
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_06]: The plan was just to take a shot at the at the trio that she knows of the T-Core
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_06]: chemo Rubina trio wasn't even attempting to take the shot at T-Core.
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I assume because she didn't think she could get the votes and and then just work with
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Cam and MJ, I think was the plan and pull them away from Chelsea.
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And so, you know, kudos to Cam and MJ for, I think, successfully playing Leah this week.
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Kudos to Chelsea for disarming Leah enough and, you know, sending her troops over to
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_06]: keep her disarmed enough to not make the move that she probably should have made.
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_06]: But but yeah, that was it was very surprising to hear that not only did
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah not plan to backdoor Chelsea, but she didn't even plan to backdoor T-Core.
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_06]: So how did the veto get used?
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Basically, Angela wins this veto, which is Omer.
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a funny veto because they're all standing there doing the puzzle.
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Now, Omer, if you if you're all big brother viewer only, Omer played survivor
[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_06]: and there's lots of puzzles on survivor.
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you ever encountered this on survivor, but basically they're all standing
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_06]: there at their individual stations doing the puzzle.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And while they're all doing that, while they're all concentrating on like trying to figure out
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_06]: the different locations of the circles, Angela is going, nope, nope, not enough space there.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, nope.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Let me try this one.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Nope, that's not going to work.
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Moving over here.
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_07]: That's so annoying.
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Narration was was top notch.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Can't wait to watch this tomorrow.
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_07]: Jeff probes for placement level, to be honest.
[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Do you love how she makes everything about her?
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that's the best part of her.
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, she's she's just playing some some big freaking brother.
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Big freaking brother!
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_07]: I really wanted, I don't know about you, Taren, but I really wanted the
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know why I wanted those those pieces of candy in the veto ceremony to spin.
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Like I just they reminded me so much of like those gear
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_07]: um gear socket type challenges that we see.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_07]: We had to put it in the right spot and then spin the whole thing to do whatever.
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_07]: And but no, it was just to stick the circles in a box and figure out how to do that.
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And is there a world in which Angela could win at the end?
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I genuinely think with each week that passes,
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_07]: it's looking more and more likely.
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it's still a long way to go.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_07]: But you said that three weeks ago.
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And here we are.
[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's certainly not out of the normal possibility for sure.
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, it really has been interesting watching Angela continue to go
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and winning her third competition and like real competition as well.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Not just like a janky veto second place finish or
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_06]: an AI arena win over two other people.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's two HOHs in a veto challenge.
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Or an eight or nine hours, like something crazy.
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Like she, you know, good for her.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I couldn't last 10 hours in a challenge.
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know about you.
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Nope.
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, Angela wins the veto.
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_06]: She wants to use it on Kimo because she feels bad.
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he's gonna hate me.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_06]: He's voted him out twice and she loves Kimo.
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_06]: So she wants to make it up to him and use the veto on Kimo.
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_06]: She informs Leah.
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_06]: She says, Leah, I want to use the veto.
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And Leah says, OK.
[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess I'm just gonna have to vote.
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_06]: She's just fine with it, doesn't even fight it.
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Does not fight it.
[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is part of why I think when we watched the feeds, we were like,
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_06]: oh, she's, this was, OK, this was her plan.
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Was she wanted to backdoor T-Core?
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Probably.
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And then it worked out that Angela wanted to use it.
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_06]: But seemingly this was more so just like, OK, all right.
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I guess I'm gonna have to put up T-Core.
[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, this has to be the season where the veto has been used
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_08]: the most amount of times.
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_08]: It's basically been used every week now.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Every week so far.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Every week.
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Crazy.
[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that for us.
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, this really was an Angela centric move here.
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, obviously not as much of an input from Leah as much as we would have liked.
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_07]: But, you know, Angela, look, we were talking about whether or not she's going to win.
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_07]: She's obviously, you know, working on them votes right now.
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_07]: She wants to move things over with Kimo
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_07]: because, you know, she wants to make sure that when she's sitting in the end,
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_07]: she gets those votes.
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I just feel like if Angela wins at the end, it'll be like how she survived so long.
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_08]: It has nothing to do with her.
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_07]: I think yes and no.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like part of it is that I also feel like it's just partly like
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_07]: like it's like the it's the sit down now, grandma thing that like
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like there's like that mentality there with a lot of these other players
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_07]: where they just feel like no matter what she does, it's going to be crazy.
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's just like, yeah, we'll just let her do her thing.
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_07]: What is like y'all let her do her thing a little bit too much.
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, well, it's kind of like if you're going to go to the shops,
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_07]: but like she's still with us, you know?
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_08]: If you hit, you have to like if you like need to get help or something like that,
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_08]: you have to hit rock bottom.
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_08]: And I feel like she hit rock bottom very early in the game.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_08]: So the only way has been up.
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And the sky is the limit for her.
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_08]: For her.
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And then we can hopefully see her on MILF Manor season three.
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, God.
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Here's to hoping.
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, genuinely, there is a world where Angela makes it to the final two,
[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_06]: having won the most amount of competitions.
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Who does she need to take to the end, though?
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Like Leah or?
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's still going to be a battle for Angela regardless.
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's going to be her actual realistic chances of winning
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_06]: are still very low.
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just that like they've been next to zero all season
[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_06]: and now they're like, oh, next to one person.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Like every week is just like a just a little bit better chances for her.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, it's not like honestly, I was thinking about the other day.
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, I'm not mind.
[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Like I feel like her being the winner of BB 26 is so appropriate.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_07]: It's been such a wild ride thus far.
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_07]: And they're like, who better to crown?
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_07]: She also wouldn't even be the worst winner of BB US.
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_07]: She would not be.
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's really saying something like strategically.
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think another thing about it is like I would really
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_07]: you just know that she would really appreciate it.
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Like just the.
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't like it's like, yeah, we're going to be such.
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, but like in the same fashion of like a of like a Josh Martinez,
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_07]: like you're just like there's just like such unbridled passion there.
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Just like, you know, just how appreciative that they are there living their dream to be there.
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Like just her winning this video even today, just like she could not stop screaming.
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Like she's just it's just been like that the entire way through.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's like as as as wonky and as crazy as she is, like it's kind of hard to like
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_07]: not want to root for somebody like that because they're just she's just so in it to win it.
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Even if our chances are so slim to none.
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_08]: She's like a bell curve where she's her most annoying self when she's either really down
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_08]: or really happy.
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, like genuinely because again, like talking about like how she can make this.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_06]: She's she's won three regular competitions.
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_06]: That is more than anyone else currently in the game.
[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_06]: If you don't count AI arenas or twist competitions, just regular normal competitions,
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_06]: which is typically how you, you know, look at the record books.
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_06]: She's won three that's more than anyone else on the cast right now who is in the game.
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_06]: If she wins two more, just two more over the course of the next few weeks,
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_06]: she will have won more than anybody in the entire season,
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_06]: including Tucker if we're just counting regular comps.
[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_06]: That's it.
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It's impressive.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_06]: The competition is this season and a testament to Angela and like the undeniable nature of
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_06]: like if she does get to the end, can you really discount her entirely by saying,
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_06]: well, the only reason you got here is because people ignored you when the Vita was used
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_06]: on her so often and she won more comps than anybody else like yeah.
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_08]: But don't you think that like the social game is still just more important than the comp wins?
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, certainly.
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean the issue is that the comp wins often feed into the social game.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, like having power enhances your social game a lot.
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Not for Angela.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_06]: But that's kind of what I'm saying is that like I think it is for Angela to some degree.
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I've seen some people on the feeds this week talking about like, you know what?
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_06]: You got to respect it.
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean, I guess if you're such an underdog and people discount you so much
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_08]: and the longevity of the season helps a little bit with that for her perception
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_08]: that there could be slow momentum that builds and it's kind of like,
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, cells dividing or bacteria dividing.
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Like it starts with one to two, then to four, then to eight.
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_08]: And by the end of the season, there might be the momentum there.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And I, for one, would think that would make it the greatest season in since BB14.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_07]: It'd be a low budget finale and I really appreciate it.
[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I really would.
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I really would.
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Some of the best movies are low budget.
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_08]: This season of Big Brother is one that's not boring.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's true.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Like the last few seasons have been a bit of a slog and this is great.
[00:17:38] Yeah.
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And again, I think a huge part of it comes down to the competitions.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think this one in this episode was no different.
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that having a competition like this, it felt like genuinely anyone could win it.
[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And Angela did.
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_06]: That said, I do think that this could have been more dynamic.
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Amon, as you said, I feel like, you know, this, you could have like had it spinning a little bit.
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I think trying to put this puzzle together while it spins would have made it take longer.
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Sure.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_06]: But maybe it would have made it a little more visually interesting.
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I also think that for what it's worth, they did give us like at the start an example of a finished
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_06]: puzzle.
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_06]: But you know, maybe if we had been able to like flash to the finished puzzle while getting an
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_06]: overview of where people were at times, you can see how close they were.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Might've helped because it did end up feeling like just randomly Angela wins and then randomly
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah comes in second.
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And so that's what I'm looking for most of the time when I'm watching a competition is like,
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_06]: can I follow this?
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Can I see who is close to winning?
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Can I see who's not close to winning?
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't think physical competitions necessarily have an advantage here.
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But a competition like this, I do think requires a little more creativity perhaps to get that.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And I did feel like I missed it, but I'm fine with that.
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_06]: A slightly boring competition is worth the result of Angela and Leah holding all the power this
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_06]: week and the chaos that ensues because of it.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Do you think from a game mechanic perspective, I think that the reason Big Brother has been
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of off for the last 10 years is because one, the casts are too large so that it becomes
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_08]: a lot harder to have a swing when you're battling against an alliance of 10 versus, you know,
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_08]: when there's 12 or 14 people to start the game.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_08]: The other thing is a lot of the competitions that they would have, like the hacker competition,
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_08]: the battle of the block, those game mechanics really favored the majority alliance.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_08]: And then also the inequitable also contributed to that.
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_08]: But this season, I feel like the game mechanic of the AI arena actually favored minorities.
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_08]: And like the minority alliance.
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_08]: And so I think that that's what made it more interesting.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Or do you think it's just the cast?
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_06]: You nailed it.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, those are the three reasons I've been talking about for years.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And I do think the AI arena is exactly what you said.
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_06]: It was the first twist that they designed in years, perhaps decades,
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_06]: that was not easily exploitable.
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I will maybe give a slight nod to like the, I don't remember what it's called,
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_06]: but the BB all-stars, BB 22 competition that like Acer and Janelle got safe.
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Backstage pass or something like that.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Backstage pass.
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Something like that was actually fine.
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that was a fine one.
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_06]: It only lasted a couple of weeks though.
[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But yes, I think the AI arena was very instrumental in that.
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Plus the equitable comps was very instrumental in pushing the season into where it was.
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that you can certainly say, hey, it wasn't backstage, safety suite, safety suite.
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_06]: But I do not think it's a coincidence that after years and years and years of the same results,
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_06]: they finally have changed the competitions and introduced a twist that is not easily
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_06]: exploitable by a majority.
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And all of a sudden we're getting a season with wild swings, veto plays all the time,
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_06]: votes that are up in the air, close votes, blind sides,
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_06]: like everything that we've been saying would happen if we just made these changes.
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And so while I do think this is a fun cast,
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that these macro level things are way more important.
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I agree.
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_07]: I think, yeah, I think we've always talked about the cast and casting.
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_07]: And while there's always been pitfalls with casting, I think ultimately most people,
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_07]: maybe I'm being a little bit too optimistic when saying this, but I feel like most people,
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_07]: when you're on Big Brother, when you're on a show like this,
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_07]: you will play if the game is designed for you to play, right?
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Otherwise, you're just going to do what is going to make you feel most comfortable.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's like what you mentioned, Omare, is like, you know,
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_07]: forming these big ass alliances and trying to just like this whole,
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_07]: when everybody is doing the anybody but me strategy, it gets very, very stale very,
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_07]: very quickly.
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think just putting things in the game where it's like,
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_07]: it's more likely that you could end up on the block or that your alliance might not be in power
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_07]: the very next week.
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that that forces everyone to play.
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's when you will get the personalities coming out of these players a lot more because
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_07]: they're forced to come out of their shell.
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, it's this BB26 has definitely been, yeah, it's been very, very refreshing.
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm very, very pleased.
[00:22:50] Yeah.
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I still think it's too long though.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I look, I have never been opposed to a cast of 16 and a season of 100 days.
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I know that it gets like a bit of a slog towards the end.
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I get it.
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_07]: But to me, that's sort of like part of the game for me.
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Like the length of time.
[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_07]: The length of time.
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like the more and more you shorten it, it doesn't, to me, it doesn't feel like big brother.
[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know, maybe.
[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_08]: That's wild because it started out at like 40 or 50 days.
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_07]: It did.
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_07]: And it could be similar to Survivor in that like, you know, Survivor was 39 days.
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_07]: It's what, 26?
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_07]: And a lot of us were sort of opposed to it in the beginning.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_07]: And we sort of kind of just like, you know, we're all kind of used to it now.
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_07]: So like, it's not to say that like, if they did shorten it back down to 70 days,
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_07]: like would we all be like up in arms about it?
[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_07]: No, but like, there is something to be said about like, just like the length of time
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_07]: and like having to sort of like have sort of the mental fortitude to make it that far.
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's just, it's impressive to me.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_07]: When you have like these giant stats and people that have played multiple seasons,
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_07]: and they spent over 100 days in the house, like that to me is like, you were playing big brother.
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Like that's it's a marathon.
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_07]: It is not a sprint.
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_07]: And I've always admired that about the show.
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_08]: But don't you think with the length of that, it also incentivizes passive gameplay earlier on?
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_07]: For sure, for sure.
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_07]: But I do think that like what we said before is like, if you have things like, you know,
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_07]: AI arena and things of that nature, then you can kind of combat that.
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_07]: So like, yes, it does.
[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_07]: It's not without its pitfalls.
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not saying that a long season is, you know, the greatest thing of all time.
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_07]: But I don't know.
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_07]: I just like the fact that people have to sort of like really grind for it.
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, you know, like you got to if you want to win, you got to put in the time.
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Like put that time in.
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm kind of with Amano on this.
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, so, you know, fun fact, the original concept for the show,
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I believe, was supposed to be a year long and they shortened it a bit.
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_06]: It came to the US.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Season two was 82 days.
[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's always hovered around the 80 day mark.
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_06]: The shortest season, I believe, was in the 70s.
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's always been that.
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just like the adding of the extra 20 days, I think, has been
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_06]: where a lot of people have been like, oh.
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_06]: But I do agree with Amano in the sense that like,
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that the issue is that we often approach the final bits of Big Brother
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_06]: the same way that we would the first bits of Big Brother.
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's just different.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Like if you're a feeder and you are hoping to tune into the feeds
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_06]: and be watching them regularly, you know, in the last 20 days of gameplay,
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_06]: it's just not going to happen for you as much.
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're going to be really bored and you're going to be disappointed
[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_06]: that you can't watch the feeds in the same way that you were before.
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, I think there's an argument to be made that like,
[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_06]: what's the difference if you had no feeds versus just a tiny trickle?
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it's there's an argument to be made that it's not that big of a deal.
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I think the issue comes in when things slow down to a halt for too long.
[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that's the extra 20.
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I think the 80 day mark is really solid.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's what we are aiming for with this season.
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that fits really well.
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_06]: So the season's 80.
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought this was 100 as well.
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_06]: No, that makes no sense.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the season is going to end in just over three weeks.
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Dang.
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_06]: OK, so I think it's going to stop short before 90 days.
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_08]: So, yeah, I think that's more appropriate than the 100 last season was just too long.
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_08]: But it was a long time.
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_08]: And then in terms of tomorrow night, who's present at home and who,
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_08]: like, does it matter because they're in the same alliance?
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, is it fairly interesting?
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_08]: It very much matters.
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot to talk about with feeds.
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll get there very shortly.
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to wrap up the episode talk quickly here and then we'll talk about feeds.
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[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_06]: So just a couple extra things from the episode.
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_06]: One is that there's really not that much to do in the episode
[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_06]: because I would say it felt like 30% of this episode was dedicated
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_06]: to the janky song, eating pizza, eating ice cream.
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_06]: It's hot out here.
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_06]: The janky song.
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It sucks.
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm really tired.
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_06]: It's hot out here.
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_06]: The janky song.
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Mackenzie misses her dad.
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Happy 15th birthday, Dad.
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_06]: They went in on Mackenzie here.
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I will tell you that they went in on Mackenzie because all of a sudden
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_06]: it's looking like MJ might have a chance to win this thing.
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, quick editing note.
[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I could be like just like not remembering very well.
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's been a it's everything like blends together these days for me.
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Has Big Brother really done sort of like the Survivor thing where they'll like
[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_07]: have pictures of family and stuff like that outside of like
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_07]: the HOH getting their picture and everything?
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Like they really had like a whole little family segment for MJ.
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And I feel like we don't really see that a lot of the time outside of like the premiere episode
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_07]: where we see, you know, what their life looks like before they go into the house.
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that like a thing that they do?
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_06]: They used to do whole segments.
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah.
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_06]: They'll film whole segments at their house.
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Like towards the beginning though, right?
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Is that something that we usually see?
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh no, they do that throughout.
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, wait a second.
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_08]: They did a segment at her family's house or a segment at her.
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_08]: No, no, not tonight.
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_06]: No, they just showed some pictures of like her and her dad and family and stuff.
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I got to miss the days where they would literally like mid-season,
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_07]: they would go to these contestants.
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_08]: They did it every eviction episode or like they would highlight somebody's like backstory or.
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, or something if something scandalous was going down in the house,
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_07]: they would try to get the family.
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_08]: His girlfriend was like, I love the Sovereign Six and not the friendship.
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_08]: That was iconic.
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, my favorites were like, let's talk to Allison's current boyfriend?
[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, was that Donnie?
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Donnie, yeah.
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_06]: He later went on The Amazing Race.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you see The Amazing Race?
[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I did.
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_07]: I can't remember the last time they went to somebody's house.
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_07]: The only one that's like popping up in my head right now is like,
[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_07]: I guess I remember Donnie 22.
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_07]: They definitely did for me at one point because some of them are like,
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_07]: you know, they have relations with other players, past players.
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_07]: But right now, I don't think they did.
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Did they do a family segment for 22?
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I know they did for 20.
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I know they all.
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we know they're different.
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_06]: 20.
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Who is that for?
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, they had Swaggy go and meet Bailey on film.
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_07]: It was a whole thing of funded parental trip.
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Love that.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, what a time.
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, what a time.
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought they did it for BB 22.
[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe I'm just thinking about like the opening segment.
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm thinking because that was the COVID season.
[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, I guess that wouldn't make sense.
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't imagine.
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I was thinking of the opening segment.
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_08]: BB 22 did not.
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I stopped watching once.
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_08]: A Tyler won HOH.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like, I'm done.
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, anyway, uh, we did have some.
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_06]: So there was this interesting moment.
[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_06]: So Leah says to us in the diary room after a conversation with Angela.
[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Angela tells her I want to use the veto on chemo.
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_06]: They talk about putting T-Core on the block.
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Then Leah tells us in the diary room,
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I would consider if I have the ability to use my janky veto.
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Because this is the other part of this episode.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Leah came in second place.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_06]: She gets the janky veto, which means she has to complete a challenge.
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And if she completes the challenge,
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_06]: she then has a full second veto she can use.
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, she says to us in the diary room,
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_06]: if I get this opportunity, I might use it to also put Chelsea on the block.
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Now this feels like a lie because she does not commit to the idea in the diary room.
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And in that very conversation with Leah or with Angela on the feeds,
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_06]: she said, yeah, I've thought about putting Chelsea on the block,
[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_06]: like what we talked about, but I don't think it's a good move.
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to do it.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think she did consider it.
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she talked in the diary room about considering it.
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I also think they played it up a little bit like,
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_06]: oh, maybe if she does this, it'll happen.
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_06]: So here's what the challenge was, Omer.
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a carnival game.
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It was those stacks of like, you know, three cans.
[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Various stacks.
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_06]: She had three throws.
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Three throws with the ball to knock down five cans.
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And it went something roughly like this.
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I missed.
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Hold on. Hold on.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_07]: You have props.
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_07]: You're the same.
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Look at all those things you have.
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I missed again.
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Hold on. Hold on.
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Hold on.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know why.
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_07]: For a split second.
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I missed it.
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no.
[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_07]: For a split second when you were looking for something to throw.
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought you were going to pick up Kellis.
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, no, don't do it.
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Outrageous.
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_06]: She didn't even throw anything.
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh.
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it was bad.
[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_07]: It was bad.
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Yikes.
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of speculation that she maybe threw things.
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_06]: No, yeah, she threw something.
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_06]: It's hard to imagine she didn't considering how bad the throws were.
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_06]: She says in the moment,
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_06]: the weird thing is I was even trying and this is really embarrassing.
[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And it was in front of everybody.
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_06]: So people were watching this.
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_06]: People were watching.
[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, crazy, crazy.
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_08]: So she did not get the second video then.
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_07]: It was a very janky performance.
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_06]: She did not get the chance to use it.
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but from what we know from the feeds, she was not actually planning to use this.
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_06]: She had told Angela and everyone else multiple times she's not going to use her veto.
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_06]: So they I think they played it up like it was a possibility,
[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_06]: but it did not seem like it actually was.
[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_06]: So it was a funny moment on the fees, though.
[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Also, a funny part was that to start the veto ceremony,
[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Angela and Leah, there's two like porta potties.
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_06]: They both entered stage via porta potty to use their veto.
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Wait, are you sure it was a porta potty and not Howie's shack?
[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, boy.
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, nothing like a nice long number two so you can contemplate
[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_07]: what you're going to do with that veto, baby.
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm pretty sure they moved Howie's shack up into the have not room.
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Joseph was in isolation.
[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_07]: They're cleaning the house like they've had like this all this time without the
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_07]: house guests having to be in there.
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, are they cleaning it at least?
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, is it just going to be dusty as hell when they walk up in there?
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, I think you mean, listen, we've seen those ceilings.
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think they do a great job of cleaning.
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, what's the point of doing this outdoor thing?
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_08]: It's kind of stupid, right?
[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_08]: There's no point.
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_08]: And I saw somebody posted online, like, why did they leave the lights on?
[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_08]: In the outside, inside while everybody's outside.
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it seems crazy.
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_06]: But that was that was the episode.
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_06]: T-Core goes on the block.
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Kimo very grateful that the video was used on him.
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_06]: T-Core goes on the block and immediately starts sobbing.
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Like literally sits down and just breaks down.
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_06]: That's really sad.
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_08]: But also, OK, so T-Core has been a fun character, but why?
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_08]: She doesn't seem strike me from the show as like the best strategist.
[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Is that off base or true or wrong?
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think she's an awful strategist.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that she actually has some decent instincts.
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she's very, very good socially, even though she's a super introvert.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that like drive and like motivation to be actively social,
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_06]: social and strategic is one of her bigger issues is that like it just takes a lot
[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_06]: to get her to go out and do the things that she should be doing to keep herself in a good spot.
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, I think she's on the wrong team, if that makes sense.
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like I mean, obviously, like Kimo and Robina are great allies for her.
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't mean in that sense.
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I just think that like sometimes I sit and wonder like if she was as close with Chelsea
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_07]: as she was with the other two, what a force to be reckoned with that duo would be as opposed
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_07]: to the trio that she has.
[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think there's a lot of comfortability with who she has in Kimo and Robina because
[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_07]: the two of them sort of are like they're good at bouncing ideas off of one another.
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_07]: It's like she's very comfortable where she is.
[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_07]: But I do think that like if she was with someone that was a little bit more just like
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_07]: game oriented, I think that it would be that she'd be much more stronger in the game.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_07]: But at the same time, like I don't necessarily know if she is like I think that the team that
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_07]: she has right now is she's been doing very, very well with them.
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't necessarily know if she is as does she get her way as much if she is with
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Chelsea?
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_08]: See, I felt like my OK, so you I should not try to correct you because you know way more
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_08]: about this than I do.
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I have not been keeping up in detail, but from watching the show, my read is that I
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_08]: feel like she really cripples her own reliance on her age week and her own position in the
[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_08]: game.
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_08]: And I feel like maybe she's trying to like dip her feet into too many pots like yes,
[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_08]: her and Chelsea could be a force to be reckoned with.
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_08]: But at the end of the day, Chelsea has a stronger alliance with other people and is the
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_08]: strongest member of that alliance.
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_08]: So why are you trying to like placate her by not putting her on the block and putting
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_08]: instead?
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_08]: You're like somebody that would work with you and draw more of a target like Tucker.
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Like there's no reason I feel like to put him on the block in that position.
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_08]: And I feel like if she were more like focused on putting the hammer down on the
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_08]: opposition, she could be in a better position now.
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_08]: But that's my weak read on the show.
[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I do think that she has put far too much faith in Chelsea.
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, but I have been a defender of the idea of like losing Tucker there was actually pretty
[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_06]: good for her.
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, I think that like if you don't lose Tucker there and you know, then like best case scenario,
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_06]: somebody else takes a shot at him because you can't let him be in the game too late.
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and it becomes harder and harder for you to take a shot at him because then you lose
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_06]: some of your allies like Rubina.
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, so you, okay.
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Best case scenario, somebody else takes a shot at him for you at some point.
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he wins the veto.
[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Now you've lost Rubina or Kimo or you worst case scenario.
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And now you are stuck with him even more.
[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, cause it's like now it's you, him, Kimo.
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and it's like, oh damn, now he's part of my trio and he's going to crush us all
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_06]: in M game competitions and crush us all in the final two votes.
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, so I do think that losing Tucker there was actually pretty good for her game.
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_06]: This is a rough week for T Corp because almost any result other than Leah winning would
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_06]: have been mostly fine for her.
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of people were looking at Leah and Angela as targets this week.
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_06]: If one of them leave, she's in a seriously good spot, uh, still.
[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and even then if the veto hadn't been won by Angela this week, she probably doesn't
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_06]: even hit the block given what we know about how Leah was looking at things.
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and even now she is on the block against Rubina.
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Will she go home is the question.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's the question I think we should try to answer here as we get into some spoilers.
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, here we go.
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[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: This is a spoiler.
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[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That makes me the janky queen.
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_06]: The janky queen nominated T Corp.
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, so this is what's been happening.
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_06]: You might've listened to the update this morning if you're listening at home, uh,
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_06]: where I talked about the fact that there's been some drama between Chelsea and Cam and
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_06]: how Cam has been cuddling with MJ and Chelsea does not like that.
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and this drama has kind of taken Chelsea's attention away from the game and onto this
[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Cam stuff.
[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It's driven Cam away a little bit.
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_06]: It's driven MJ away a little bit.
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And at the very least, the lack of attention on them has caused MJ to drift quite firmly
[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_06]: into the camp of Leah.
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I think we should vote out T Corp here.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And Leah, who did not think this was even a possibility is like, sure.
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm down for that.
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Angela's down for that.
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_06]: That's two votes.
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Can we get Cam?
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And as I updated people on this morning, turns out Cam is on board.
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Cam recognizes it's best for his game as well to take out T Corp.
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Is it because Chelsea blindsided him so he's okay with doing it back?
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Not quite.
[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_06]: He sees that taking T Corp out is beneficial to his game, but he would like for Chelsea
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_06]: to be on board with it.
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_06]: He does not want to blindside you about it.
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_06]: But they went to MJ or they went to Chelsea, MJ and Cam on the night of day 64, which was
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_06]: last night.
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And they basically said to her, we're thinking we want T Corp out.
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And she said, well, if that's what the house wants, I'm willing.
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Today, she has fought back.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_06]: She had a long conversation with Cam.
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_06]: We saw in this episode, or I should say heard in this episode,
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_06]: the audio quality outside full of planes, trains, automobiles, washing machines, and
[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_06]: in this case, car alarms.
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's lovely.
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_06]: But in this conversation, Chelsea tried to reassure Cam that she is not actually that
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_06]: tight with T Corp.
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Simultaneously, we should probably keep T Corp this week.
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And wouldn't you know, he kind of bought it.
[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_06]: He kind of got back on board to the idea of keeping T Corp around and getting rid of Rubina.
[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_06]: There was a huge anti Leah push from Chelsea, which is making it even more wild that she
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_06]: didn't touch the block this week, considering that Leah had all the power in the world to
[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_06]: take Chelsea out.
[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And now Chelsea is doing everything in her power to sewer her name, as they might say
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_06]: in Big Brother Canada, and get everyone to target Leah next week.
[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_06]: She's been spending all day on that.
[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_06]: She tried to convince Cam that Leah was lying to him when she said to Cam that T Corp was
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_06]: trying to get Cam on the block.
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Cam now thinks that Leah might have been lying to him, that T Corp didn't want that to happen.
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_06]: If T Corp is down to work with him still, maybe he should keep T Corp around.
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_06]: But that's not the end of it, because MJ is holding firm and she still wants T Corp to
[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_06]: go.
[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_06]: So she had a conversation with Cam during the survivor episode tonight.
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I have not had a chance to watch it myself, but I have the gist of it so far.
[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And what from what I understand, Cam was pushing MJ.
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I think maybe we should keep T Corp around.
[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And MJ was like, no, that does not make sense.
[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_06]: That benefits Chelsea, not us.
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_06]: And seemingly has him turned back around to evicting T Corp at the moment.
[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So this has been a little bit of a back and forth.
[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I cannot tell you for certain where Cam or sure stays or leans in this moment.
[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But the current lean seems to be back in the direction of taking out T Corp.
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_06]: In addition to that, Rubina had a conversation with Kimo where she made her pitch to him
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_06]: and he said that he was open to keeping her.
[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I personally feel like Kimo still leans toward keeping T Corp.
[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_06]: That is not something that Rubina would want to rely on by any means.
[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_06]: However, if the votes are already there to keep Rubina, it would not super surprise me
[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_06]: if he put a vote there as well.
[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But we'll see.
[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's where things seem to be.
[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Chelsea also had a conversation with Rubina where it seemed as though she was not super
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_06]: confident she was going to be able to make this flip back happen.
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_06]: She was hedging her bets saying to Rubina that she wants her to stay.
[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_06]: She wants her in her final five.
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_06]: But I guarantee you, if she has the ability to, she will still keep T Corp.
[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_06]: She's just trying to cover her bases and make sure that Rubina is anti Leah as well,
[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_06]: which she seems to be after her conversation with Chelsea.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Wow.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_07]: So this all hinges on cam.
[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_07]: What you gonna do, bro?
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_07]: What you gonna do?
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_07]: You better get some telepathy going with the dogs back home because, uh,
[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_07]: dogs at the crib rather, because you're gonna,
[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_07]: this is, this is a, this is very critical for you.
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I personally think that you just go ahead and snip T Corp up out of there.
[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I think, uh, trying to keep this trio intact.
[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, I mean, either way it's going to, they, they are going to get rid of somebody in the
[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_07]: trio.
[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I do believe that T Corp is the more capable player, um, socially.
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_07]: So I just feel like if you want the better shot at having options in the end, I think
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_07]: that you sort of have to chop this trio off at the knees, um, where they're going to feel
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_07]: at the best or feel at the worst rather.
[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's going to get, that's going to be getting rid of T Corp.
[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, so I'm interested to see if Chelsea is going to be able to, to make this happen.
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, she only has a little under 24 hours left.
[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, I mean, I wouldn't put it past Chelsea though, because we've seen her work some
[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_07]: miracles and works of magic, um, plenty of times this season.
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think that if she, MJ just has to stick to cam, get back to cuddling, um, try to make,
[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_07]: uh, Chelsea as jealous as hell because that's going to just turn cam off.
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_07]: So that's what I would do if I were MJ.
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Ride that train until the wheels fall off.
[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_08]: She seems to be playing, um, like much more aggressively now than she did earlier.
[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_08]: She seemed so passive early on.
[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I was a blood in the water now.
[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_07]: And I feel like it's been getting, it's been getting that way for her for so long.
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_07]: She has been so frustrated for not feeling as though she has been like an active player
[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_07]: in the game or having like a good team.
[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_07]: And now I feel like that now that she knows that she has like a little bit of like something
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_07]: going for her.
[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_07]: This is the time they're like hit the ground running.
[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_07]: This is, this is the sprint to the end.
[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And, uh, I'm, I'm glad that she's been slowly waking up for the past couple of weeks.
[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_07]: It's been great to watch.
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I think, I think like she was floundering for so long, uh, finally found some footing
[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_06]: and just started pushing in any direction coming up with wild theories.
[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, some of which stuck, even though they were completely out of nowhere, uh, convincing
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Tucker that, uh, Quinn had a ballers alliance with Chelsea.
[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, and actually that was, uh, it would Chelsea and cam or something.
[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and so, um, then eventually found some actual solid ground, solid footing in the
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_06]: game, started pushing really hard against Quinn, which I did not think was in her interest.
[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_06]: It was in Chelsea's interest, but she was still pushing, making a move.
[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and now with this, I think very good HOH results with, uh, Leah finally pushing
[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_06]: in the right direction, recognizing what's good for her game, pushing in that direction
[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_06]: against the will of Chelsea, um, and forcing Chelsea to lose some power and putting herself
[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_06]: into a very solid position where it's setting up to be Leah versus Chelsea with cam and MJ
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_06]: sitting pretty in the middle.
[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and, uh, that's, that's pretty good for them.
[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_08]: So you don't think it's going to be that if they make this move that she will lose
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_08]: traction with Chelsea?
[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_08]: You think Chelsea is still focused on Leah?
[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she has to be.
[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that's, what's been, that's what her, uh, like thing has been today has been like,
[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm pushing, she is worried about MJ.
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_06]: She's worried.
[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_06]: She's going to lose MJ to Leah.
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, right.
[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think that if she's going to take a shot, it doesn't make a sense.
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_06]: It makes sense for her to take the shot at MJ when Leah sitting right there, a comp threat
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_06]: against her has Angela, what she does, which nobody really sees right now is that like MJ
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_06]: has also made some significant progress with Angela, uh, or you might say Angela has made
[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_06]: some significant progress.
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and so there are, there's a lot of interesting stuff going on.
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Chelsea is far from dead in the water here.
[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_06]: She still has a very solid position.
[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not like MJ and cam are going to be targeting her anytime soon.
[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not like chemo or Rubina will likely target her anytime soon, even if she does
[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_06]: lose T-core.
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, so she has plenty of room to rebound.
[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, whereas Leah has a much shorter path, a much shorter runway.
[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, however, her power has been significantly diminished for sure.
[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, and, uh, and it has given an opening for people like MJ and cam to really step in.
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Now the question then becomes, will MJ and cam give her space to rebuild or just bring
[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_06]: her to the end thinking that now that she's been weakened, they can beat her, uh, and
[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_06]: give her a chance to really, uh, come back.
[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's, it's interesting stuff.
[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And she still has a chance to keep T-core this week, which would be a huge coup.
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_08]: So do you think Leah is, um, the most in trouble next week?
[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And if she wins veto, does that mean they're going to default to Angela or do you think
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_08]: that they'll start turning on each other?
[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So it depends on who's HOH.
[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I think, um, I think that cam will look at chemo and Rubina for sure.
[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I think MJ would look at chemo and Rubina.
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I think Chelsea would do likely.
[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, she's been back and forth, but like, I think she would do Leah or Angela.
[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_06]: If you could.
[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and I think Angela would do Chelsea.
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and chemo and Rubina, they're a little bit up in the air right now.
[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Chelsea is pushing Rubina hard to go at Leah.
[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that, uh, and quite frankly, that's probably where they go because they will have
[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Chelsea pushing them on one side.
[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_06]: They'll have MJ and cam who are like, yeah, not us.
[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, if T-Corp goes, they'll blame Leah.
[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_07]: So, yeah.
[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_06]: So, um, so there's definitely a lot of like, she's in a lot of danger for the renom.
[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_06]: She's in some danger for initial noms.
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that Leah's best hope is a cam or MJ win, which they are the two most physical
[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_06]: players left.
[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_06]: So, um, you know, there's, there's definitely some hope there.
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm wondering what the HOH is going to be, because they said it's going to be live tomorrow.
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_06]: They said they were going to start the begin the HOH.
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Which I would, I would assume implies some kind of endurance, but like they just did
[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_06]: one, uh, granted they didn't show it on the feeds.
[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_06]: It could also be one of those things where like they start a tournament style HOH or
[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_06]: like a, like, you know, uh, I always think about, I think it was the one that Jess won
[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_06]: in season 21, where like, they go around, like count all these things or like study
[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_06]: these things and then have some.
[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I'm wondering, well, I guess, I guess the HOH could be in the AI arena room.
[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I was thinking like, they're all outside.
[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm laying with, if it is outside again, is it going to be something where they can
[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_07]: like quickly build it real fast?
[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's a crap shoot.
[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_06]: They could do that too.
[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Like they can start a crap shoot and then finish it on Sunday.
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Like they, they can do, they can start anything theoretically.
[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I do miss a little bit of the days where we found out the HOH the night of, but for like
[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_08]: on the episode on all.
[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, uh, anything else we should talk about before we wrap up here on this late night?
[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_08]: No, I think it's a really good season.
[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that there's a lot of potential.
[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's a bit of a bummer.
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Like I think the momentum would have been carried over a little bit more if she pulled
[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_08]: the trigger on Chelsea, but hopefully it'll still be spicy from here on out.
[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if they had, if they had double vetoed walking out of porta potties, like yeah, that
[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_06]: would have been a truly iconic moment in the season.
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_06]: The dookie veto and not the janky veto.
[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Wait, is Zingbot not happening this season?
[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure we'll get it.
[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_07]: We have to.
[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Seems a little late.
[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Ainsley went to go get him.
[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And Ainsley will come back with like a, like a new boyfriend and it'll be Zingbot.
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll have like a friend.
[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_08]: When is the double eviction coming?
[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_08]: They're.
[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, I think we're assuming double eviction is going to be, they'll either announce it
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_06]: tonight and it'll be seven down to five or assumedly that makes the, yeah, that makes
[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_06]: the most sense.
[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, probably.
[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Seven down to five.
[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But we'll see.
[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, Omar, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.
[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you for filling me in.
[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_06]: It was actually, this was very fun.
[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I liked having somebody who didn't watch the episode on the podcast.
[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was made for a fun little dynamic.
[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, good.
[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad.
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and, uh, Aman, thank you for being here so late on the East coast.
[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_06]: No problem at all.
[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be up anyway.
[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_06]: So.
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, thank you also to everyone who is, uh, watching us live right now, late, uh, on whatever
[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_06]: coast you are on.
[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, I will be back tomorrow morning to update you on everything that happens tonight on
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_06]: the Big Brother 26 live feeds.
[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I do think that they will lock in the vote, uh, late tonight.
[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_06]: They will have some discussions, I imagine, and figure out exactly what they're going
[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_06]: to do right now.
[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_06]: My, uh, suspicion is that they will likely fall on evicting T-Core once again.
[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, however.
[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Is there a world in which Kimo can flip Angela by guilting her?
[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I honestly, it would be the other way around if anything, I think.
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I think Angela going to chemo being like, I used the veto on you.
[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_06]: You're right.
[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_07]: You have to vote with me.
[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Kimo doesn't have a sinister bone in his body, but he has so much ammo and so much
[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_07]: potential to do it.
[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, it's better for Kimo's game that T-Core leaves if we're being straight up.
[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Like best case scenario, Angela wins the whole season.
[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_08]: That'd be insane.
[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_07]: It would be one for the ages.
[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_07]: She'd be the oldest winner in history.
[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, go for it.
[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's what we have for you tune in tomorrow morning.
[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll give you the update on the latest for this vote flip and what it is looking like.
[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_06]: It does not mean that things couldn't change tomorrow as well, but we'll, we'll likely
[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_06]: have some more information for you by tomorrow morning.
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_06]: So tune in for that.
[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And then tomorrow night's episode, find me on Twitch.
[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll be watching it live.
[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll recap it all afterward.
[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_06]: See what happens with this H2H competition.
[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_06]: If T-Core does in fact leave and what, what a wild shift that would be in and of itself.
[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_06]: T-Core one of the front runners to win this game out of the game just like that.
[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_06]: So tune in for all of that.
[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Check out all the Survivor coverage that's going on right now.
[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_06]: A big exciting time in Survivor.
[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_06]: We got to the circles going on.
[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_06]: We did some, some scripted show coverage over at the Tastemakers.
[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_06]: We talked about the TIFF International Film Festival where Kevin Jacobs and Grace went
[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_06]: and hung out and watched a bunch of movies.
[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I got very excited with them talking about all these movies that are coming out soon
[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_06]: that haven't been released yet.
[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_06]: America has a new podcast.
[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm talking about America, the Big Brother player and not the country because it'd be
[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_06]: weird if America, the country had a podcast.
[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And she's also, I believe, going to join us tomorrow night on the recap.
[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_06]: So tune in for that.
[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Tons of stuff.
[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_06]: There's tons of stuff.
[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Omer, what do you got going on?
[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I was just on with Rob to recap Survivor 47's first episode.
[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think personally best episode, best premiere since Survivor Go Wrong.
[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_08]: So you can check that out.
[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_07]: And Amon?
[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_07]: You can find me everywhere at Amon Adwin.
[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I have the Diary Room, my podcast with Matt where we have been doing bracket style matchups
[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_07]: for all of the Big Brother players in North American history.
[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Six players go in, three players will survive all the way down until we determine whatever
[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_07]: the best Big Brother player is going to be.
[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_07]: So that's been a lot of fun.
[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Check us out over there.
[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, thank you all then for joining us here tonight.
[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And we will see all of you next time.
[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm wheeling and dealing over here, ladies and gents.
[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I got to do what I got to do.