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[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yesterday, Big Brother 26 Live Feeds, Day 71 in the House
[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_02]: There was some campaigning that happened and lots of other talk
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So with me to talk about it is Cory, how you doing Cory?
[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing alright Taran, I want to be super transparent with you
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought we were recapping the first episode of The Summit today
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: My notes are way off so I need you to guide me on this one
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You got lots of Manu Bennett quotes
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Exclusively Manu Bennett quotes
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the Summit
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly
[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, alright well listen we'll talk about it all here today
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course as you know, MJ is the H.O.H.
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: She nominated Angela and Kimo then won the veto
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Kimo off the block and replaced him with Leah
[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Leah being the new target
[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But then the night before yesterday, Leah confronted MJ about this
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And had a very long conversation where she denied many of the accusations
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: That were being levied against her
[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: The blame fell onto Kimo and Rubina primarily
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: There was also a long talk with Chelsea
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: She did manage to get MJ to realize that this was perhaps not the best move for MJ
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And that maybe she made a little bit of a mistake
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And MJ is like, hey it's not too late, it's not over, you can still stay
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: In fact I never was even targeting you in the first place if you think about it
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of where we left the night off
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I think it's a problem with this season where they're so obsessed with blindsides
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Where it's like if you don't go for the blindside and you do the BB25
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell everyone my plan before it happens
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You could get rid of some of these miscommunications before they happen
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But because it's shocking the rest of the house or at least shocking Leah here
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You gotta wait till after the fact when it's more than likely too late
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Well in the morning of day 71 they do get together again
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And MJ is still feeling like she wants Leah to stay
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I love you, it's fine, this is gonna be great
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And they kind of come together, they discuss a little bit of strategy for what they should be doing
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ wants to keep talking to Chelsea, see where she stands
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_02]: She wants Leah to keep talking to Chelsea
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She said that Chelsea told her last night after the conversation that she had with Leah
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: That she was willing to have another conversation with Leah
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So more talk with Chelsea, also talk to Cam, also talk to Rubina
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Keep talking to people, we'll make this happen, you're gonna stay, it's gonna be fine
[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I don't know if it's that deep but it feels like it's put Chelsea in a really difficult spot
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Because MJ is almost like testing her because MJ is gonna pitch to Chelsea
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And if Chelsea is super pushing back we have to get rid of Leah
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And that almost confirms in MJ's head that she's being played
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's this super strong counteracting force of trying to rationalize your own move
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That I think is gonna spare Chelsea here
[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It should at least, yes
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_02]: The rest of the day for the most part is gonna be fairly slow
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: They do get as briefly talked about a little preview of the Summit
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And we had our own preview of the Summit here at RGV
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're interested in checking out the premiere
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Very fun
[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and I'll tell you what Taren
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't super interested in watching the show but watching Angela's reaction to the Summit
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be sad, I'm there
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean Angela was in tears
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I can only imagine how good the show is
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Almost good when Akimo's speech is, you know what I mean?
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: The emotion, it drags it out of you
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So they had a little Summit thing but the real meat of this is that MJ does get to work here
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: She has a conversation with Chelsea
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And again is just gonna sort of pitch this idea of
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, just because Leah's on the block doesn't mean she has to go
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_02]: One of the arguments being that if they keep Leah
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Then Leah's a bigger target than Angela
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And if they keep Angela, are Akimo and Rubina really gonna go after Angela?
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Is Angela really a big enough target for them to actually go after them instead of us?
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_02]: As opposed to Leah
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And Leah and them, they're pissed at each other
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_02]: They're going after each other
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Will Angela and them really go after each other?
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And Chelsea's just kind of like, yeah but I don't think they're gonna win anything
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't matter
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the operative word being us
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They might not target Angela
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But will they target us, Chelsea and MJ?
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it'll be MJ and Cam
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it'll be MJ and Angela
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think Chelsea's hearing all of this
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And it all does make a certain degree of sense
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Just not for Chelsea at all
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So she also says, well hey but Leah is definitely not going after us
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: She's pissed at them
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And Chelsea's like, I think Angela would go after them too though
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, yeah but I just don't know
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Did Leah even do any of the things that they're saying that she did?
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that they're lying
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And Chelsea's like, well
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I need to talk to Akimo and get a sense of whether I think he's lying or not
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Did Akimo make all of this up?
[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of talk about this
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_02]: How much did Leah actually say?
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_02]: How much of this was invented by Akimo of all people?
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Chelsea would be super on board to keep Leah
[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: 100% on board in fact
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: If Leah just fessed up
[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: To what?
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't tell you
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He fessed up to targeting Chelsea, I suppose
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: To making up Akimo and Rubina's lies
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: To making up the Matt and MJ accusations
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: As long as Leah figures out what to fess up to
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And fesses up directly to Chelsea
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she has a long duration left in this house
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, according to Chelsea
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ also talks to Cam
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: She talks to Rubina
[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: She talks to them both
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: About this option of what if Leah were to stay
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_02]: How should we talk about the vote?
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And the response is basically like
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I didn't realize we were having this conversation
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think there was a conversation to be had
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that we were just voting out Leah
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, we're just talking about options
[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Classic case of HOH puts someone on the block
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Then confused why that person might go home
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a theme this season
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the idea of let's talk about the votes
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The votes are there if you want them to be there
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We have the votes in this room
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think Chelsea has almost mastered
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The deflection tactics at this point
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We gotta go with the house
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if the votes are gonna be there
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: X, Y, and Z
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe someone's lying
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Sending people on sidequests
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: While Chelsea seemingly with her words
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Is floating the idea
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And is gonna entertain it
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll talk about it tomorrow
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Is vehemently shutting this down at every turn
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they do agree, MJ, Rubina, and Cam
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That Angela should be the next target
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_02]: At least amongst themselves
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And how they want the final five to be
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02]: The three of them
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Plus Kimo and Chelsea
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: That is sort of the final five
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That they're looking to do
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Taren, can we flash back to one week ago
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The live feed update
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Where everyone in the house agrees
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That Angela will be the next target
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And they'll save Leah for the week after
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who the target next week's gonna be
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably gonna be MJ
[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it'll end up Kimo
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It will not be Angela
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the thing is
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It is a double eviction
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: There's not as much time
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: To realize you shouldn't be targeting Angela yet
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: A double eviction at this stage
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The votes are very simple
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not about organizing
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: A six-person voting block
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the way that Angela gets evicted
[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Is an MJ winning a veto, for example
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But even then
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It would just be crazy to me
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: If Kimo and Robina don't then settle on someone like a Cam
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's a missed shot on Chelsea
[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But the only one who would take that shot is Angela
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So she won't be vulnerable
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I hear what you're saying
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think there are counteracting forces
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Of like, double eviction makes it easier
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: For someone to just get flung out of the game
[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But the vote's very simple
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I really think
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially with this cast
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo and Robina's
[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Or at least Kimo's whole MO
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Is organizing things in the last eight seconds
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if they want to keep Angela
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll keep Angela
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, well
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_02]: These three
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they have
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Lots of other conversations here as well
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you want me to pass the ball to you
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how deep you want to go into it, Corey
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But
[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Lots of
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting conversations about
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Basketball
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And different techniques that players use
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And stuff like that
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much of a
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Basketball player you are
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They call me a baller
[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Corey's Horniness Corner
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go down the
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The Horniness Stock Watch
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's tens across the board, Terry
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Truly
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we talk about this season being
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Just a cluster of bad strategy
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I think
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It's primarily because it's a cluster of
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Something else
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like the use of the word cluster here
[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That was icky
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: What are you going to do?
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: There's really, I mean
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Not a lot
[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Of stuff to go over today
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is why I think a lot of people are like
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we're getting the
[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Horniness rankings on the update
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a long conversation
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Another one
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Between Leah and Chelsea
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea
[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Seems to at least
[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Say to Leah that she believes
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That Kimo has been making this stuff up
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So the night before
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea was talking to Leah
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And basically saying
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard from so many people
[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Not going to name names
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That you said X, Y, and Z
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're denying it right now
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But I've heard from so many people
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: On day 71
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: She's saying to Leah
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you know what
[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Do kind of feel like
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Kimo is making stuff up about you
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And
[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh that Kimo
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He's freaking out right now
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: He's running around
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe he's so against you
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Leah
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And so
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Leah tries to take that opportunity
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: To make
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: A new angle for her pitch
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is hey
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You know
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You're concerned about Kimo
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Well if I stay
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm loyal to you
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm loyal to you
[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: To MJ
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: To Cam
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Those are the people that
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to work with
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Those are the people that
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear enough
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: In the past
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm trying to make it clear now
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You are my people
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to ride with you
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: If Angela stays
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: She's going to be loyal to Kimo
[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: She's always been loyal to Kimo
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_02]: She wants to make up for voting him out
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_02]: She used the veto on him
[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: They have this special relationship
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Kimo and Angela had a long conversation that day
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Where they did talk about
[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know moving forward in the game
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So she's trying to make the pitch
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That like
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I am a pro your trio
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Angela is a pro
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Kimo Rubina
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Duo
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: At the very least
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Pro Kimo
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And so
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I benefit you more than Angela does
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I think a lot of people are
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Clowning on Leah for like
[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you believe this is all
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo and Rubina's machinations
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But for this campaign
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to believe that
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't like understand that
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea is the problem
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then expose
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That is so much more unrealistic
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Than making MJ and Chelsea upset
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: At Kimo and Rubina
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I do want to ask you Taren
[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this is a very messy
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Move by Chelsea
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If Chelsea is not actually
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Considering keeping Leah
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Because if you're trying to get rid of Leah
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You just keep filibustering
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep stalling until you vote her out
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Now all of a sudden
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She's badmouthing Kimo around the house
[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And luckily it's Kimo
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think she like opens up
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a little bit of a
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Spot where she's actually vulnerable
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I mean
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That's you know
[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of par for the course
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: For Chelsea right
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean she was the one arguing
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_02]: For Quinn to stay
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: In the last days of
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Her own HOH when she took out Quinn
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Which was probably the best move
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Of the season
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not surprising to me
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_02]: That she would actually consider
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_02]: This pitch
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And the idea
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_02]: The biggest question for me
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Is like does she actually believe
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That Kimo did some of this stuff
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Because he didn't
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: She did
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: She's the one that did it
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like surely she knows
[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That she can deflect blame
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: When you can
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Even when it's somebody
[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's leaving the house
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Riley's coming up to me
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to say that I'm not voting for her
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm deflecting it to Suri
[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: When in reality I should just say
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah whatever
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like okay fine
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a very understandable response
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Chelsea's game
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Looking retrospectively
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll not turn this into another
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Winner's ranking
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But these journeys are really messy
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And it made for a really good season
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But like
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Getting Tucker out
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Very effective, really well done
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's her move of the season
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The Joseph move was ridiculously messy
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And really shouldn't have happened
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: The Quinn move you just talked about
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Is insanely messy
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still not, she failed on the T-Core week
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_01]: This week we'll see
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is going to be
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: One of the cleaner weeks
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But this conversation opened up
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And when we think back to it
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god she orchestrated
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: All these vote offs
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's fair
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a real true way of saying it
[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And she is the reason these people went home
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So give her credit
[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like we have the privilege
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Or whatever the opposite of the privilege is
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Of viewing exactly how it happened
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And all of that being very top of mind
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is definitely the case
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially like
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is I think a fairly common thing as well
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Where I think that
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_02]: People remember her more fondly
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Than the in the moment view
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Because as you said
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: The bumps often get smoothed over
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: In the same way
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Many fondly remembered strategists
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Have maybe not had this many bumps
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But have certainly had their own
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Foibles here and there
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think people
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they should keep in mind
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That when they're ranking a Chelsea
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Versus let's say a Maggie season
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Season six
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You are not remembering the day to day
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Mistakes that Maggie made
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that you're not remembering them
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You just don't know them
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: For 99% of Big Brother fans
[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So like I've been very critical of Chelsea
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been extremely critical of this cast
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think a very fun thought experiment
[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Terran is who's the second best player
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Of the season
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And that being said
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Like every most recent season
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Of Big Brother is the worst
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And every most recent winner
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like that's a lot of
[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The discourse happening with Chelsea right now
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It is really
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Not like a ton of other stuff
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That's happening here
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But it feels like Chelsea
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Is at the very least
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like doing that thing
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Where she is considering
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The other side of this
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Could she keep Leah around
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: She's able to push in this direction
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You know
[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: There's again more planned conversations tomorrow
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So Chelsea is saying to Leah
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: The four of us
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Me, MJ, Cam, you
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Should talk tomorrow
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And yes
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_02]: This is reminiscent of
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Quinn getting the group together
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And them all saying yes
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_02]: In the same way that everyone said yes
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: To Jag and then voted him out
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It does feel like
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: There is an opening here
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Where really there should be none
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think waiting to see what this conversation looks like
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Particularly waiting to see
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: How the conversation between
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Chelsea and Cam
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea, Cam, MJ goes
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Because Cam is still pretty set on wanting Leah gone
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea seems at least a little bit open
[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: To Leah staying
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And MJ is pretty adamant on Leah staying
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So that creates kind of an interesting dynamic
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Genuinely I think a lot of this
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Door being somewhat open
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Is a result of them just really being over Angela
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a whole
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Like subplot yesterday of people just being in the HOH room
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Talking bad about Angela
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: All day and it's every houseguest
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: This is obviously a more emotional cast
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And when you're looking at the pros and cons
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Of Angela vs. Leah
[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Truthfully they're not that different
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: In terms of like jury potentials
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They're a little different but not that much
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Compability a little bit but not that much
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Things like
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hang out with Angela anymore
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Can push that over the edge
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially for players like Cam, MJ
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully not Chelsea
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So the door is open
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Again it's not super open
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and honestly
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I can already sort of imagine
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Right now
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: If Chelsea did decide to keep Leah
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people would be like
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh turns out Chelsea's an idiot
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I've been saying this from the start
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't actually think it matters
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: All that much
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Which one of them goes for MJ for Chelsea
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It's great for Chelsea
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Regardless which one of them leaves
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really bad for MJ
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Regardless of which one of them leaves
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: That said
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think there is some
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Credibility to the idea
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: That like
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: If Leah does not leave
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ, Chelsea does not get this notch in her belt
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess both for
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: The fans but also for the jury
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think she needs it for the jury
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that like
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay so I've been
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Again I've been saying
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: For MJ, Angela leaving, Leah leaving
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's both really bad
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Both numbers for her to
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Keep her and go after the other people
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That are bigger threats in the game
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: She's already screwed up massively
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_02]: She's already put Leah on the block
[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It's already looking like
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: She's going to be a lot better
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I do think that now
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It is especially beneficial for her
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_02]: If Leah stays
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it makes this week
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Seem like it wasn't as bad
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_02]: As it was
[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And it makes Chelsea not seem
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_02]: As controlling as she is
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And it gives MJ just a little bit more
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Credibility if she does make it to the end
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not against Chelsea
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But like
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Where I think Leah goes to the jury house
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: This week
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Saying MJ's an idiot
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Or saying things that would make Flynn go
[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ's an idiot
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: If Angela leaves instead
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like oh why did she nominate Leah
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_02]: That's interesting
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But then they didn't vote Leah out
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_02]: What are they doing?
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just a little bit more nebulous there
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So things shift in terms of what
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Could be the optimal move
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I do think this benefits MJ
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: To keep Leah here
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I would assume that's why Chelsea
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Will not ultimately
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep exploring this option too far
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But we'll see
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's also a massive help
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: To Leah's jury prospects
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Of surviving a backdoor in this way
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: At this stage of the game
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Well let me float an idea
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Of why keeping Leah is good for Chelsea
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I say this all not thinking
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good move for Chelsea
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We all have been talking about online
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The Twitter spaces
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: About how Chelsea is similar to a Vanessa
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Mari made this point yesterday
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Of maybe getting cut at the final three
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that last hurdle she has to get over
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like where she's going to be
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Most vulnerable at this point
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get cut for Angela
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That is how this works out
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: This is how it happens
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And again Chelsea is more in that category
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Of needs to be dragged to the end
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_01]: When I say dragged I mean just not
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Necessarily winning that final competition
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: She's very capable
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But again when you're in this good of a position
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to assume you're going to lose
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: All the competitions just to make sure
[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got all your bases covered
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And if it's her and Leah
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: At final four or final three
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: They're always going to get rid of Leah
[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Leah is a jury threat
[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're choosing between Chelsea and Angela
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost a binary choice of win or lose
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: At least for someone like Cam
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: For MJ it might be lose or lose
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So I could understand the perspective
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Of get rid of all the people
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to win against
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So they have to take me
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the problem is
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She might have people blindly loyal enough
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say, remove Leah from this
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo, Rubina, MJ and Cam
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Who is most likely to cut Chelsea for Angela?
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Any of them?
[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it might be
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Rubina or Kimo
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: But honestly it's hard to say
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: When you are Chelsea
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_02]: When you are the front runner
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: When you probably beat anybody in the final two
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to keep all of the people
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Because you can beat everybody
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You want to get rid of the people
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That are really easy to beat
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Because you don't need people
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That are really easy to beat
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: The people who can't beat you
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Are the people that need that person
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Because of getting to the end
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to be the person
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That beats everybody
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And know it and be rock solid in that
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_02]: But you definitely want to
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Avoid being in a spot
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Where things are too tricky
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: The key here though
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that you can be in a situation
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Where say, you're Derek
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And you want to take a Victoria
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So all you do is
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: You make a pact with the house
[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And you say if Victoria makes it
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Then when Cody wins the final three
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like maybe he's a dummy
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's worried that that pact
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Falls through and Victoria beats him
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea has not done this
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Intentionally or unintentionally
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Because this was done by Quinn
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: More than anybody else
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But there is a narrative
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Going around the house
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially yesterday, day 71
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: They were talking about this
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And MJ is actually spreading this a lot
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: To get Angela to leave
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: They're saying Angela can win in the end
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: They're saying Angela is not
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: The final two goat
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That we once thought
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: That she is a contender to win this thing
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She's won three competitions
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: She's played this game
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: She has a story
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: We should not be looking at her
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: As somebody that can just
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Be easily beat
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that narrative is spreading around
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think that's worth
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Looking at
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Watching the feeds yesterday
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's a little bit different
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I would think people would be
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Voting for Angela
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Less than they'd be voting against
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Erica Cody and for Victoria
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Angela has
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_01]: As much as anyone can earn their way to the end
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: She's had a pretty wild journey
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is kind of like that prisoner's dilemma
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Of everybody knows they want to take Angela
[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And the only way to not take Angela
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Is to have some sort of
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Group up and realize
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's something we all can't do collectively
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest risk for Chelsea
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Of keeping Leah is
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Not even is she a better competitor
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And jury threat and all that
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah and MJ after one day of beefing
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Leah's back on MJ's lap
[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And MJ's advocating for keeping Leah
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You just can't take that risk
[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Chelsea was able to
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Win MJ back from Leah
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Decisively, definitively
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But the week before
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It was Leah getting MJ to vote out T-Core
[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So unless you want to
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Roll that dice again
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Get rid of this problem
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Before it becomes something else
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: MJ's actively targeting Angela
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just not the right move
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_02]: We will see, of course
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Day 72
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Today, Wednesday
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Will be the final day
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Final full day before the eviction
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So we will likely see
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Some more of this campaigning
[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: What she wants at this point
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_02]: She wanted Quinn
[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea didn't
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: What she wanted happened
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: She wanted T-Core
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea didn't
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: T-Core happened
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_02]: This week, she does not want Leah
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She wants Angela
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea doesn't
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So what happens here
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think will be very interesting
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think that MJ
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Will happily back down
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: After, again
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea has already conceded
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Some of this
[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what we've been talking about
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: In terms of rationalization
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't make a mistake
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That can only work
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_02]: When you haven't ceded ground
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that MJ feels like
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: She's got a hook in this
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I spent a full day with Leah
[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Working with her
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Campaigning for her to stay
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk to Chelsea again
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea seems like she's open to it
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's not looking like
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: This was the non-mistake
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I never intended for Leah to go home
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I intended to put her on the block
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So that we could figure things out
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And now we've figured things out
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was right all along
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_02]: To put her on the block maybe
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But obviously we're not sending her home
[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously Angela needs to go
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was right in wanting Angela out all along
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And so you've kind of lost
[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Some of that initial surge
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: That you could use to pull her back in
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And trying to get MJ to be okay
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: With Leah leaving
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is a good move to sort of take I think
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see where this goes
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it has some legs to be interesting
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's give some credit to Leah
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I know you thought this
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I certainly did as well
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That she was like dead in the water
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And she might be dead in the water
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But she's less dead in the water
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Than she was yesterday, which is great
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it also is a bit of a testament
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: To MJ again
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The whole conversation of
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it Chelsea's great move
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Or is it MJ was fully convinced
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And is campaigning for Leah now
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think we're getting a little bit illuminated
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: As to the math there
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But I do have a ton of respect
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And admiration for Leah
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: If she gave up this week
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd hate to see it
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You love to see people campaign
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I would totally get it
[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It felt like there's very little to do
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever little to do, she's doing all of it
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And the last thing I wanted to bring up, Taryn
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Before we end this update
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Is I think when it comes to
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Chelsea figuring out this endgame
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Her most important job
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And this may seem counterintuitive
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they're so loyal to her
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Is getting rid of Kimo and Robina
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And somehow doing it in a way
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That they're not upset with her
[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Because this is a very
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, blighting swing in the jury
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If all three of them are on the jury
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Teeqoor, Kimo, and Robina
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: She might get all three of their votes
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If one of them is next to her
[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: She loses the other two's votes
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So how does Chelsea get them on the jury
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And also not have them mad at her?
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you say you only need four votes
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're just three
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like it's really, really important
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree
[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that
[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about this a little bit
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: On the roundtable last night
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That like, the reason Chelsea is the frontrunner
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Is because she has those three votes on the jury
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the reason why she beats everyone
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't actually have like
[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_02]: The relationships to carry a jury vote
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_02]: She just has this voting block
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Which gets her, you know
[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Three-fourths of the way there
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And then she just needs one more vote
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Via a relationship she has
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, like, that's kind of tricky
[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially when some of those votes
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Robina might be more inclined to go cam
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that's a tough place to be
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: When you need to make sure
[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_02]: That you retain those votes
[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So far I would say she hasn't done a lot
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_02]: To retain those votes
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Because she, quite frankly, didn't do a lot
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: To get them in the first place
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, how does that come in?
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I actually feel like losing T-Core and Robina
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: If she's, say, up against Kimo
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_02]: As long as she also doesn't lose Cam and MJ
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if she betrays Cam and MJ to go with Kimo
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Then, yeah, that's just gifting the game to Kimo
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But, like, if Kimo starts winning comps
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And takes out Cam and takes out MJ
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And she squeezes into the end with Kimo
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she still has Cam and MJ
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like Quinn, Leah, and Angela are swings
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And against Kimo that's actually kind of dangerous
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'd actually rather be against Robina
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_02]: At that point, weirdly enough
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: 100% I think Quinn is a big Kimo guy
[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Angela's always been a big Kimo guy
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Even when Leah gets blindsided
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like she's crying in Kimo's arms
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's always that animosity with Robina
[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So, like, Kimo's one of those weird people
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Of, like, really, you're in the stock watch
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm investing in Kimo at this point
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: After watching him on the feeds all day
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But strictly because it's a seven-person jury
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not about how great of a game you played
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's more what are the votes on the jury
[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially what the narrative this week
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Kimo managed to convince MJ
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: To take him off the block and target Leah
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And we have a small sample size, Taren
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But he gives good speeches
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He swings votes on his side
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very scary to me
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's been, like, the
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like there's two layers to this
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Angela is everyone's target every week
[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Kimo is everyone's other target every week
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And every week they're both safe
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Kimo is at a lot of risk
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: This double eviction
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he'll find a way
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He always does
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Or people will find a way for him
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right
[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll see where it goes
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_02]: We've been talking about it
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: This should be an easy glide into the finish
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: For Chelsea
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But this season has found ways
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: To keep making things interesting
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see if they continue
[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_02]: To make things interesting
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But in the meantime
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That is what we have for you today
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll of course be back tomorrow morning
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_02]: 11 a.m. Eastern to update
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: The highlights
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a Marathon Wednesday
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Survivor on
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And then Big Brother
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: A three-hour block
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be live on Twitch
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Watching it all
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Make sure you come and join me for that
[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And then after the Big Brother episode
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Izzy will be joining us
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: To talk about all of this nonsense
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll get Izzy's thoughts
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: On all of this
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And then tomorrow, the eviction
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what's coming
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So stay tuned for all of it
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: We had another drop of the circle today
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And I can tell you
[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: The third drop of the circle episode
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Messiest yet
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: This season of the circle is wild
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So stay on top of that
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to check out the circle
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Corey, what are you up to?
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Patreon.com slash AmeriCorey
[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Doing a lot of fun stuff there
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Twitch.tv slash Corey Wurttenberger
[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Streaming all this stuff
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: All the time
[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And a bit of an announcement, Taren
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We are in Nashville
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The links are active
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's me, Bowie, America
[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Some other special guests we cannot announce
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you're in the greater Nashville area
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Feel free to check it out
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: On all of our social medias
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, well that is what we have for you then
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you all so much for joining us
[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And I will see all of you next time