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[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Rob Cesternino, Taran Armstrong and more
[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Rob said that he could do it. Tomorrow he will do it again.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello everyone and good morning.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to our live feed update for September 21st.
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm your host, Taran Armstrong, and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday.
[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: The Big Brother 26 live feeds. It was day 67 in the house and nominations were made.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Zingbot arrived. That was pretty much it.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So with me to talk about it is AJ. How you doing, AJ?
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing good this morning, Taran.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I really like doing these live feed updates because like, you know, with the TV show you get to talk to,
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I could talk to like friends and family and stuff like that.
[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Be like, oh yeah, did you see what happened on the show?
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't really talk to them about the live feed because they're like,
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: why are you a crazy person that's watching live feeds?
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I like doing this. But really today was a one person job.
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's finally happened. The feeds have died.
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they died last week, but there was hope that they'd be resuscitated
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_03]: this week. Not quite so far, at least.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not the most exciting, especially I think as MJ is HOH.
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I think if we had like an Angela HOH that would be like so much more fun or more interesting.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, MJ is like she has her plan. It's set in stone.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And the only thing that could throw it off right now is like a Leo VO.
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that would. Yeah, the only thing that could go wrong is a Leo VO.
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: As in, that's the only thing that could go right.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the only thing that could fix her plan.
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But like here's the thing, Taryn. Watching this season,
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what's going to happen because people often makes the wrong first decision
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and then it gets course corrected.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, we'll see. We'll see here.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, as you know, MJ won the HOH.
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: She let Leah know that she planned to nominate Angela and Kimo with Kimo as the target.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But that was a lie. Her real target is Angela because Angela might take out Chelsea
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_03]: and MJ doesn't want that.
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's the plan. She hasn't told Angela yet.
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's the first thing on the agenda.
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: She's going to let Angela know that she needs her to go up on the block as a pawn for Kimo to lead.
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And Angela is like, why?
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: No, like truly why?
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Because here's the thing, pawns frequently go home.
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Pawns always go home. Like McKenzie legit spent last week putting in really good work with Angela.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So why would she even consider messing that up by putting her on the block and telling her that she's a pawn?
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You got Chelsea sitting right there. Like Chelsea is right there.
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: She's got people that are not going to vote her out.
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Rubina, Kimo, Cam, like it's fine.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But you're using Angela who's like the most volatile person who only has Leah and you MJ.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So why are you using her as a pawn? It doesn't make any sense to Angela.
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't. Angela says, because I got to get Kimo out.
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And Angela's like, why is Kimo a threat?
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, because it's because he's Kimo, because he's got to go.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And I got to use you as a pawn. I don't want to get blood on my hands.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And Angela hits her with like, OK, I mean, not bad.
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: She's sad. She's disappointed.
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd hope, I'd hope, I'd hope it wouldn't be me, but that's fine.
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I truly wish McKenzie didn't win this HOA.
[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I understand the idea of padding up her resume, having another competition win to make her look favorable on the jury.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: This was not the week to win it for McKenzie, in my opinion.
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And like worst case scenario for McKenzie is Chelsea goes.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: If I was McKenzie, I'd be like, I would love for Chelsea to be in the jury.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And not just because I think she's like the biggest threat.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: That's actually a voice in the jury that's pro McKenzie right now.
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, like if Chelsea somehow left this week, I think MJ becomes the front runner.
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: If Angela leaves this week, I think I'm not sure MJ can win the game.
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to see it is it's hard to see it.
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's still routes where she can win, but it's like she's really like closing herself off.
[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That is one lane. That's not good for her.
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, there's listen, there's always a chance.
[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just definitely a lot worse, a lot worse, especially when she has such a great path in front of her.
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And I agree. I mean, I think that like she didn't necessarily need this age, but I don't think it would have been bad for her to win this age and do almost anything other than what she's doing with it.
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just that like her winning this age and targeting Angela, you know, targeting Leah would be worse.
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But she still might do.
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_03]: This is definitely the second worst thing that could have happened to her game this week, especially given that she can't compete in the following age.
[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So like even if it was just like nominate chemo and Rubina and then it'll be like, okay, you're putting yourself between Chelsea and Cam and Angela and Leah and they both need you.
[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd like, you know what, MJ, you did that.
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And you don't have to worry about like Rubina when he did it because it's taking down chemo because they talked about that today too.
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_02]: One of the few thoughts we had that was interesting today.
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just I don't it's it's so simple.
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so simple that you're in between these two duos, one of which you have a much better chance of beating in the end anyway.
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: But even if you don't want to go with them, like it's still very simple.
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Cam and Chelsea can't do anything but target Angela and Leah.
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: So why are you doing it for them?
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a great question.
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, and I was thinking about it.
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like if there was a world where McKenzie was to play this game again, I would have like a lot more faith in her because I think she needs to like learn her lessons from this season.
[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I see the potential.
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I see right there.
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I saw what she did last week.
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think she just needs to like, you know, have a reset.
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Be like, okay, let me reconfigure my head because this season she's playing with Chelsea.
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And by playing with Chelsea, everyone else is like you're playing for Chelsea.
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's not a good place to be.
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: See AJ, I think you're wrong.
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that the MJ we saw in Janky World, not the same MJ.
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It was an imposter.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a different person.
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: What?
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Pretty sure that had to.
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That's literally the only the only explanation.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So Angela is upset.
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ is going to run off to Chelsea and let her know about her conversation with Leah the night before.
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, guess what?
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah told me last night.
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: She tried to get me to not put up Angela because like her and Angela are numbers for me.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: What?
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God, that's so wild.
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's like coming after you and not me.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And that like they benefit my game like.
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_02]: What does she think she is like telling me this?
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_03]: God, can you believe her?
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You like me now, right?
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm giving you all of my things.
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I get to win now.
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that how it works?
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trading in.
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trading in my pieces to you.
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Do I get affection?
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't get it.
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't get it.
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Man, I really hope Rubina doesn't win that veto and use it on chemo because.
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't be forced to nominate Leah and then and then Leah will have to go and that will be even worse for me.
[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_03]: She says to Chelsea who definitely plans to throw the veto to Rubina.
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Like like it's insane because literally everyone in the house can see it.
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like everyone but MJ can see what MJ should be doing.
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like just actively trying to please Chelsea and being good with her in cam.
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like MJ, MJ.
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_02]: MJ.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You were you were on the rise.
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Your stocks were higher than ever.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was like shame.
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And listen, this is this is why I said this is why I was pushing so hard on Chelsea's HOA tweak to say that I felt like taking
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Quinn out was the right move because what I said at the time was if you take Quinn out, nobody else in this game is capable of playing strategic enough to dethrone Chelsea.
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And let me tell you Leah came close, but she backed away and she said yesterday I will get there.
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And if Quinn was there, he would have hyped me up.
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have made the move probably.
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But she didn't MJ isn't and this is typically how your end games work, especially if you're able to take out.
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The more, you know, openly strategic players, you get the kind of like not as familiar with the show people ending up just kind of playing for somebody else.
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's a huge part of why I think the end game often slows down is that we often get players like this who just kind of don't play for themselves.
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree.
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it really was like, okay, we are actually in the end game, but I will push back on this one thing.
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I think there is one person on this board who is willing but not capable and her name is Angela.
[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's so disheartening because Angela would have been such a funny choice.
[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all don't you understand?
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_03]: No, you're totally right.
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I completely agree.
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela also certainly was capable of taking a shot just not as capable of influencing others to take a shot in the way that Quinn might have.
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, and when you're not able to influence, like you don't really have much because I think Angela would try to take the shot Chelsea and ultimately failed.
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: She had one HOH.
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But wouldn't that have been fun to see someone try?
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Angela would have landed the shot.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I think Angela would have gone through with what Leah didn't and put up Chelsea and T-Core.
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And then.
[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, last week.
[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I agree.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she would have done that last week.
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But this week it's like now that T-Core is gone.
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: What is the configure of people that you can get right now that can vote out Chelsea easily?
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's this notion, by the way, that Angela was against Chelsea going home last week, that she would have been like this adamant figure to stop Leah from doing this and that if Leah had put up Chelsea, Angela would have screwed her over and evicted T-Core over Chelsea, which quite frankly is fairly absurd.
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela was fully on board with the plan the prior week and definitely would have been on board to take out Chelsea.
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: What she had been saying was like, I want to take out Chelsea myself next week.
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But there was never a serious discussion about what would actually happen if that if she went forward and did that move.
[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah went.
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah said herself, I backed away from this decision because I didn't think it was the right move.
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And Angela agreed with her.
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know where this other idea that Angela somehow blocked the Chelsea numb came from because it's definitely not true.
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I truly think it came from that comment she said where I want to get rid of her, I can get rid of her next week.
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that was more like appeasing Leah like it's OK, you're not having a terrible H-1 train.
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I will do what you should have done this week, next week.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think that's where they took it and ran with it.
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But truly, Angela, because here's the thing I love about people like Angela.
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: She don't care if these people like her.
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she's going to cry about it.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But she's like, I've seen the brother and I'm here to play to win, despite what Zingbot might say.
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because Zingbot came along a little bit early, not for the veto comp.
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Just just hanging out, I guess it came came a little early to give some zings.
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm sure that Zingbot will be there for the veto comp, but the zings came before the nominations.
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_03]: See people in the chat still know Angela was adamant.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: She wasn't.
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Zingbot comes and we get some zings, we get some zings.
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about you, AJ.
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: None of these sounded very good.
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_02]: No, like not not particularly.
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And I am a person.
[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I understand Zingbot is a staple at this point in time.
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_02]: People love Zingbot.
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So freaking overrated, like actually extremely overrated.
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's like a handful of really good zings and the rest of them like.
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I see what you're going for.
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't really land it.
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we'll see when we see the of course, the actual footage, I guess.
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But basically we got for Angela, you can't win the game.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You cry a lot.
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Something along those lines.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Kimo, you are boring.
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You put people to sleep.
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You're not on the show.
[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Mattress salesman put people to sleep.
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Get it.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people were like, Kimo, no, you're not boring.
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's absurd.
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean?
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Cam, you're boring.
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, too, I guess.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't have substance, you know.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Rubina's was all about Tucker, which was so sad.
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that was the best way to zinger.
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It was her deepest insecurity in the house.
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess.
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess so.
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess.
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Chelsea's, I think, I guess was about Cam a little bit, which, yeah, I guess as the potential for a good zing.
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But hard to know.
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Talked about MJ's feet.
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was, that's the most ridiculous one.
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: MJ, you have dirty feet, you beast.
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say the low key, like it always hurts me when I see a reality TV, like someone lying on the bed and the bottom of their feet are black.
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh my God.
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, that's all of them.
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And then Leah's, I think was like chubby chaser.
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Killing it this year, Terrence, honestly.
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Showing out.
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, it's well again, we'll see.
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Usually there's like one that's mildly amusing, but the rest are pretty bad.
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I think they did this once with like a Kathy Griffin and she like came in with zine.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think they really should have like a comedian who's follow on the show, like come in with them and be a part of the zings.
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe.
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what the solution is.
[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It's yeah, you either have like, you have to like actually dig deep or yeah, be like a funnier joke writer.
[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I don't know.
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Because at least what a comedian, they have good timing and punch.
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, Z-Bot is just like a pause zing.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, okay, cool.
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So we finally get to the nominations.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And as planned, Angela and Kimo are nominated for eviction.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Kimo talks to Rubina afterward.
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He's basically like, oof, this is, this sucks.
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: This is what she said she was going to do.
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But I really hope that I'm not the target here.
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_03]: We really just have to put our trust in Chelsea.
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, she, she said she really wants to go after Angela and Leah.
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So we got to hope that she really means that and that she has her backs moving forward because MJ and Cam are clearly working together.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So we got to hope that it works out there.
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And he says, you know, I'd never ask you to use the veto on me, Rubina.
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_03]: She says, well, but I would.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It makes sense for my game.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Why would you say that?
[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, truly when you said, I want to ask you to use it.
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think everyone in the world that was watching at the same time, including Rubina, was like, what the fuck?
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, what?
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean?
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, of course she's going to use it.
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's not even a question.
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't, don't tell them to not do it.
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Because what are you talking about?
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Even though like we're confident, like Angela will go home because like, there's no reason for Chelsea to vote out Camo at this point in time, especially against Angela and then Rubina.
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And MJ's not going to go against Chelsea at this point in time.
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty like, sure, it's secure, but it's not fun.
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, it just is a weird thing to ask to say.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like going, going out to eat with somebody and then being like, I'm not going to ask you to pay for your portion.
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'd never do that.
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Pause.
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just such a weird thing to do.
[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's more like you take your credit card out about to pay for the entire table.
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's almost like, you know what?
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to ask you to do it, but you know, go ahead.
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela ends up crying by herself.
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, Chelsea also has a moment.
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's things are just very slow, I think.
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And Angela's on the block and is just in general.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, you know.
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Isolating and long and everything.
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Late into the night.
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: They were also talking about like, and I think Camo and Rubina was talking about like, this was one of their fifth times.
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The other one, sixth time being nominated and stuff like that.
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like truly being like being nominated that much.
[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what sucks, but like being continually nominated and be like, we don't value as a game player.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll just like use you how we want.
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like so draining morally and stuff like that.
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So like I completely understand.
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And especially like someone like chemo and Angela who like I truly believe our fans of the show and understands what like that perception is.
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And like, we'll just hate that.
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So, praise my heart.
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, as somebody who's had a member of my draft team nominated every week, I understand how they feel.
[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I basically feel the same way.
[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But hey, they're all still there.
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you got to take what you can get.
[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, take the ones where you can get a baby.
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So late into the night, Leah talks to Rubina and she's having some buyers remorse.
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_03]: She's having some regrets.
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That man, it was it was almost as if Leah outside like outside janky world.
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah was also a different person because she had this plan to put Chelsea on the block with T-Core.
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It was such a good plan.
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It would have worked really well or at least been better than what happened.
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And then she went to do it.
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And she didn't do it.
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, I'm such an idiot for not doing that.
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't going to say it, but you know.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I might have said it.
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm glad she like realized because like truthfully, what did she get from that winning HOH then?
[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she got T-Core out, which is like, it's not bad that you got T-Core out, but she didn't like actively improve her position in the house and her position in the game, which is like, mama, like you have HOH.
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the one thing I would like for you to do besides like, you know, get your target out.
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Which also McKenzie like, yo, put yourself in a better position.
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, I think I've had this complaint with almost every HOH this season.
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, yo, put yourself in a better position and stop just doing stuff.
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, listen, I'm trying to think back real quick.
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm having a hard time finding a single HOH reign other than Chelsea's where she got Quinn out.
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: That was like a real, like I think T-Core's and Chelsea and people will argue against me on T-Core.
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I think T-Core taking Tucker out was a successful HOH reign.
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think Chelsea, you know what?
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela as well.
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela taking out Matt.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Although you got to say the process of doing it kind of screwed her over.
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not going to say Angela actually.
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure, you know, Chelsea gets Lisa out the first time, which was fine, but she could have done better.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Like taking out Leah that week.
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_02]: She gets Lisa out, but then like her alliance crumbles.
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what's in the next couple weeks?
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the only real successful HOH reign all season, I believe, was Chelsea's.
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And it kind of, she walked backwards into it.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And the same with T-Core.
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: T-Core was successful, but she also walked backwards into it.
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, what are you going to do?
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I like people who fell upwards.
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not easy.
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I see so many people fall backwards this season.
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So doing it upwards is great.
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Basically, what Leah says to Rubina, by the way, is that she came in with a plan.
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_03]: She backed off of it.
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: She got scared.
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_03]: She ignored her gut and played it safe.
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And if she had won that veto, the janky veto, and she did try, then she could have fixed everything.
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And something might have happened.
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Notably, she doesn't say, and Angela talked me out of it because Angela controlled my nominations that week.
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And Angela was so adamant.
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_03]: She backed out.
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: She backed out.
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_03]: She didn't feel like she could do it.
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And she should have, because she could have been able to change things up here.
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like the producer says, let me give you a second chance.
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We saw what you initially did, but you can fix this.
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: This could be good TV.
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Leah, do what you got to do.
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: To Angela's credit, when she won the veto, she was like, I'm using this veto.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Full stop, no questions asked.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm using the veto.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully T-Core or Chelsea gets put up.
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I understand the hesitation.
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_02]: When you're making a move, a big move, that's terrifying.
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_02]: But you want to be the person like T-Core who's like, yeah, I got Tucker.
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm out of the game now, but I did what was right at that point in time.
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And not be like, ah, man, I'm about to be out of the game and I did not try my hardest.
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I did not do what I thought I should have done.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: That's worse.
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: People being like, Leah says, I think putting Chelsea up is a bad idea.
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Angela says, yeah, I agree.
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And people are like, ah, Angela talked her out of it.
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So she's regretting it.
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, the interesting thing here is that she's talking to Rubina about this.
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously a lot can be made of the fact that Rubina is a possible renom, as is Leah.
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And what is Rubina going to do with this information?
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not exactly new information.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone knows that Leah is against Chelsea and that Chelsea is against Leah.
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_03]: This information could certainly be used to reinforce that position.
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And given that Kimo and Rubina had already talked about needing to rely on Chelsea to keep Kimo safe this week,
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_03]: there's a good chance Rubina will use this to help make sure that Angela leaves
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_03]: and that she doesn't go up on the block as a replacement and that Kimo stays.
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Those are three big, important things for Rubina's game this week.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: At the same time, the question can become, is there any chance that what Leah is saying could stoke some flames of self-interest in Rubina when it comes to Chelsea?
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_03]: The problem is that she's relying on Chelsea this week because Chelsea will basically control the votes, whether or not Angela stays.
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: The big thing is, will Rubina and Kimo fall in line, as they like to say in this house, with Chelsea in the following week?
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_03]: If Angela leaves, will they actually target Leah over MJ Cam Chelsea?
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing that Leah needs to be working on.
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It is definitely risky right now because she could go up as a renom, but she needs to get to it at some point.
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe wait until Vito's ceremony, but then you only have a couple of days.
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: This is probably a bit early and is honestly likely to backfire.
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_03]: The intent here is worthy of discussion.
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_03]: The delivery method and the timing is a bit off.
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I low-key disagree with you.
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a huge task for Leah.
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She has to turn Rubina and low-key Kimo, but particularly Rubina, she's not on the bottom right now, against Chelsea.
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They want Chelsea in their final three.
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_02]: That's their current vision.
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea was one of us.
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: She's so mad at Leah because of the T-court situation.
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_02]: They're loyal.
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't wait later into the week to wait on trying to flip Rubina.
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to start that early and you got to do that frequently and hard.
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's risky because you could easily be the renom and Rubina could rat you out.
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But you put yourself in a bad enough position, this is the only light you have to run towards it.
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I do agree.
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that like, because I feel like I went back and forth as I was saying it.
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_03]: She needs to do something and waiting until after the veto ceremony only gives her a couple of days.
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the risk here is maybe it's wait until today because the veto competition is going to happen today.
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_03]: In the event that like Kimo or Angela wins the veto, Leah is in a lot of danger.
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's Leah or Rubina.
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_03]: At that point, Rubina now has extra dirt to throw at Leah.
[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Rubina goes up, maybe Leah goes up.
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But maybe once you find out what happens with the veto, then you have a little more confidence that you can start this path.
[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: But I do agree.
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that at the end of the day, what else is there for Leah?
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: If she doesn't flip Rubina and Kimo, she clearly isn't flipping MJ at this point.
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Then what does she have left?
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: She's screwed going into next week anyway unless she wins.
[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And even if she wins, where does she go from there?
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like you might as well just aim for the fences, which she should have been doing last week.
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But here she is.
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I do not disagree here.
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Although I will still say that delivery method was a little much.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_03]: She was talking at Rubina quite a lot.
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not wrong.
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So that was pretty much the day.
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_03]: There's not much else here.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: The veto competition is going to happen today, day 70.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: No, not day 70, day 68 in the house.
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And we'll find out who wins the veto.
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see what happens with it.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_03]: The main things are, once again, just to set this up, if Angela wins the veto,
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: likely it's Rubina that goes up.
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Not likely.
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Likely MJ will initially want to put Rubina up instead of Leah.
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I do not think she will want to do Leah.
[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But Rubina now has this extra dirt to throw, and Chelsea will be pushing hard for it to be Leah.
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is actually a pretty bad scenario for Leah if she's not able to, obviously it's bad.
[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But in general, it just still pits her against Kimo and Rubina.
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of hard-pressed see a world where she's sitting as Kimo in space.
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, if Leah goes up.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Leah.
[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if Leah goes up, she's done for sure.
[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: There's, you know, there's seven players.
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: You only need two votes and a tiebreaker.
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you could maybe say that Angela and Cam come together with MJ to break the tie
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: to flip against Chelsea's reign.
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It just feels impossible.
[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, if Leah goes.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So if Angela wins, it's Rubina or Leah.
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But after a couple of days, given what is out there, I'm willing to bet that things start really leaning toward a Leah backdoor.
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, people get weird about backdoor, but whether she plays or not, it's kind of a backdoor in my opinion.
[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And if Kimo wins the veto, it's a lot more likely to be Rubina in my opinion.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that MJ has much firmer ground to stand on to say, like, I still want Angela.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So Rubina will be my replacement pawn.
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas if Angela wins the veto, there needs to be a new target.
[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why Leah is more likely to go up in my opinion.
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's those two options.
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Then there's Leah winning the veto, using it on Angela, assuming she will.
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: In which case I think it's pretty cut and dry.
[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Rubina goes on the block.
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Kimo goes home.
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Rubina could win the veto and use it on Kimo, I would hope.
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And fairly cut and dry.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah goes up.
[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Leah goes home.
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's different options where things are shifting around here.
[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And most people will be playing.
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Only one person sits out.
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So I would imagine that Cam, MJ or Chelsea all winning the veto.
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_03]: If MJ wins, Chelsea will push MJ to use it to put up Leah.
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_03]: If Chelsea wins, she'll advocate for herself to use it so they can put up Leah.
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_03]: If Cam wins, she'll push Cam and MJ to use it so that Leah can go up.
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So on and so forth.
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think regardless of what happens with the veto, there will be some pushing and pulling in directions.
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And we'll see what happens.
[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I agree.
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And not to also talk about bad job on MJ again.
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But like MJ, bad job on you.
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Because literally last week, MJ was the main pusher to keep Rubina in the house.
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_02]: First off, she worked hard on the Angela relationship.
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: She also worked hard on Rubina as well.
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And like to go into this week and Rubina being like, oh yeah, there's a good chance she's going to nominate me.
[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's probably going to put me up.
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, no, you should be like Rubina.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Be like, no, she went to bat for me.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I might have some sway or we can do something.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel comfortable.
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But yet here's Rubina not feeling good about you.
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Feeling good about Chelsea who wanted Rubina gone.
[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So she's useless.
[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, MJ, harsh words.
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Anything else, AJ?
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Not much.
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to see how this game turns out.
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Likely Chelsea.
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I would not be upset with Chelsea win.
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be happy with Chelsea win.
[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know what?
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Good things.
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Good things.
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's what we have for you today.
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all so much for joining us.
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I will, of course, be back tomorrow morning, 11 a.m.
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Eastern time to update what happens with this veto competition and what the initial plans at least are for the veto.
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[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_03]: AJ, what do you got going on?
[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I know you're talking to Rob a little bit after this, but later today, I'll be on Renap.
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[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that is what we have for you here today.
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[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And I will see all of you next time.