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[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob Sestradino back here with some bonus coverage here during BB26.
[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_08]: And this is very fun. I had the chance to bring in an old friend of mine who happens to be the founder and the head of the Proto company.
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Which has outfitted the big brother house with a very fancy hologram machine here with us. David, David, how are you?
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow, this is great. I'm a big fan of the show. Obviously, you and I are friends.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_08]: David Nussbaum, I'm so excited to have you back. I think I just introduced you first name only.
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_06]: David Nussbaum, I am a super Rob Sestradino fan and your family. I love you and miss you guys.
[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And I knew I had to do something like invent a hologram technology.
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Bring it to the world of Big Brother just so you will invite me on to show so we can hang out again.
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's what I had to do.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Have you had a previous RHAP appearance?
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_06]: You came to my house, right?
[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. The first time we ever met, I think Johnny Fairplay. Was it Johnny who introduced us?
[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I think so. Yes.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Johnny. So and I looked this up. It was 14 years ago.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_06]: It's 2010 or 2011. You were living in Valley Village or something.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Sherman Oaks.
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Sherman Oaks. OK, sorry. Sherman Oaks.
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_06]: For all those who if you don't know, Sherman Oaks is Valley Village in Sherman Oaks.
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_06]: So and I came over. Johnny Fairplay set us up.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_06]: What did we talk about? Survivor?
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_06]: We talked about Lost.
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, OK.
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_06]: The show Lost.
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. Yes. OK. Now on Netflix. Still relevant.
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. It is. It is. I would like to rewatch it.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I've had some friends rewatch it.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Knowing now what they would have liked to have known in the first few seasons, it can be very helpful.
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_06]: I think I saw somewhere on social media somebody ended up putting Lost in like in an actual timeline.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. Yeah.
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. We could talk about that, but we've got to talk about these holograms.
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_08]: OK, so you are single handedly responsible for unleashing Ainsley on the Big Brother 26 contestants.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I have to give. I will. I will own the fact that I I bugged the producers of Big Brother for 20 years.
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. Either trying to get on the show, trying to participate in some way, collaborate.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And eventually I got a phone call this year saying, if you promise never to call us up and bother us again.
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_08]: But be serious. OK, so so could you tell us like sort of like the chicken or the egg of in terms of like, OK, so BB 26, they're coming up with a theme.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_08]: They have an A.I. theme. Do they reach out to you as sort of like being?
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. They've seen the proto hologram and they say we want this.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_06]: We sold proto sold our technology to Big Boss, which is Big Brother India.
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And so on Big Boss last year, they did a whole thing. And so I was like, oh, my God, this is.
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Should we get the should we get coverage on Robbins podcast?
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it's not as good as Big Brother, but it's it's big. It's Big Brother India.
[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't really understand much of it. But, you know, same gameplay.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It's this it's Big Brother India. So it's just different. It's just in a different language.
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, contestants and challenges and stuff like that. So I sent that clip to, you know, to the fly on the wall folks.
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And and and I got a call. I got a call probably four or five months before Big Brother started this year.
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was given some general idea of what the the twist might be.
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And is this something that we can is this something that we could collaborate on?
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_06]: And I said, wow, that would that is first of all, great twist. Thank goodness.
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_06]: This is and yes, absolutely. So now I didn't come up with this idea.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I just kept pitching. Let's beam Julie into the house.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Now you are a longtime Big Brother fan.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_08]: If I recall that you've interviewed Big Brother contestants from way back when that you.
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_08]: So this is like a dream come true for you.
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I auditioned, I think, five years in a row to be on Big Brother.
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. That's what you did. You auditioned for Big Brother and then they put you on.
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_06]: They put you on Survivor. Yes.
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. So I wanted to be on on Big Brother.
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I auditioned like seasons like 10, 11, 12, like the Matt Hoffman's and the Reagan's and like those years.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. They took my spot. Ian, that was my final season.
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't take it after Ian, after Ian when I said I'm no longer auditioning for this show.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. OK, so you said, OK, well, now I'm going to come up with some way to torment the Big Brother house guests with my hologram technology.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought, look, instead of Julie communicating to the house guests on a closed circuit TV set, the Big Brother house is the ultimate house.
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_06]: It's the ultimate it's the ultimate like location. Right.
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_06]: So I thought, wouldn't it be cool? Like as technology continues to evolve, got to put a holographic window, a portal into the Big Brother house and houseguest families could be men.
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Julie Chen could be men. I thought that would be great.
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_06]: They had a much better idea. And that's what we're kind of doing this season.
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_08]: OK. AI. AI. So, you know, so many questions about like what's what's happened and where where this is all going.
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_08]: So they had like a whole list of things that they wanted to do with the twist.
[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And they come to you, they say, can we can we execute these things or are you like, did you know you could do this?
[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Do you know you could do this? And are you are you feeding them ideas on what to do?
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_06]: They I, I do. So I typically demonstrate what our hologram technology can do.
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I show off our AI. I show off museum pieces. I show off people.
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I could beam Howie Mandel into this thing right now if I wanted.
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And I show off all of the technology. I show what it looks like on TV and how interactive it can be.
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_08]: And then they come up with all the ideas. OK, now, can you tell us that your technology that has been with the house,
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_08]: it's been very much tied into deep fakes in terms of we could take any person, put them in there and make them say anything.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Now, is that something that you want?
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, hey, like we can get Howie Mandel and get him to talk about how great Rob is a podcast is right now.
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Or is that something that's totally different than what people should expect from a hologram?
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_06]: So when it comes to AI, that is one of the things that we do.
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I can take you, Rob, I can scan you two minutes of scanning time.
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Literally, you can stand in front of a camera for two minutes, talk about anything you want.
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And then and then your AI is then created.
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_08]: There's a bit and there's a little bit to say anything that you want.
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, yes and no. I mean, you would you own your own avatar, so you would have over complete control over anything that your avatar would say.
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't have permission to just type in anything or say anything into your avatar and it spit out what I say.
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_06]: But but yes, I mean, you would have control over what your avatar says.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And so let's say you're doing a TED talk or let's say you're doing a convention and and you're and you don't have time to be there.
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_06]: You can't beam in because you're busy doing something else.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Your avatar, you can type in a whole paragraph.
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_06]: You could your book, the Rob has a podcast book comes out and you could drop the whole text into it.
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And then your avatar can now do a book tour and read it.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And by the way, in any language, in your voice.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, OK. Yeah. Yes. All right.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_08]: So, David, where are you? You're not in the Big Brother house, are you?
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm in my showroom in Van Nuys.
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_06]: So I have I have I've got I've got hologram Paris Hilton over in our Big Brother kind of studio wall here.
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Allegedly, some of these other house guests knew Paris Hilton. Is that how they got on the show?
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know. To see Paris Hilton is just like, hey, my personal chef.
[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I've seen that. I've heard of all of these things.
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Lots of you know, as as the season goes on, people continue to find out more and more pre Big Brother stuff about some of the contestants.
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think it's all it's all very interesting, but coincidental.
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. OK, so can you talk about the idea for Ainsley?
[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Did you design Ainsley?
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_06]: We use a company sometimes called Code Baby and Code Baby is like a remarkable AI.
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, they're an avatar company, so they could they usually they create avatars of of non photo realistic like animation avatars for websites and commercials.
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And they do a lot of work like that. Proto Hologram takes some of their work and portifies it and makes it look like they're physically in the room.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: So we kind of bring them to life. Yes. In a way.
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I did not create Ainsley. That was the Big Brother producers.
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I had I guess they storyboarded it out. I don't know. They did all of that.
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I just I just offer the holographic technology that that brings her to life.
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_08]: OK, David, do you know, could you tell us whether you have a conversation about what was going to happen if the house guests voted Ainsley into the house?
[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Were you was there a contingency plan for that?
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know the answer to that, because I think, well, of course there probably was.
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what I'm. There's always a there's always a contingency plan.
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. So reality television is very interesting in the sense that, well, had she been voted into the house,
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_06]: then there then there would be really no reason to come up with this other scenario.
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_06]: She would have just been voted into the house. So I mean, so either way she was getting voted into the house.
[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_08]: OK, so did you have anything with the actual actress who played Ainsley?
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I don't know. I didn't know anything about the actress.
[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_08]: OK, now, did you get to work with Tucker when he was the AI instigator?
[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Did you were you like getting like messages from Tucker of like, all right, Nuzzy, here's what I want to do.
[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_06]: So no, no. So so he from my understanding, Tucker gave you know, he he he was able to puppeteer these AI avatars.
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I personally had zero communication with any of the house guests.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_06]: This is all everything flowed through the producers at Big Brother.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_08]: So you get a message from the producers of Big Brother and they're like, hey, Tucker wants to pose as Rubina and say,
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_08]: or poses Quinn blowing up his relationship with Rubina.
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_08]: And you were like, wait, he's trying to throw his girlfriend under the bus.
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I have no opinion. However, this is not what this technology was invented for.
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. So it is very yes. I saw the I saw the the the messages.
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_06]: It is it is just it is dropped into the software, the soft and the and the hologram produces the content that you see.
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So I I that's what I did. You know, I I I created the holographic display.
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_06]: The AI avatars create themselves. Essentially, you take take the words, whatever it is that you want your your AI to say.
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And it and it spits out the the proper message. Yeah.
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Could you as a reward for say for Quinn, would it be possible that you could get a holographic Leah to reciprocate his feelings for her?
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, could that be a reward he would win where he's like, hey, Leah, actually, you're sick, nasty.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And she's like, you're sick, nasty too, Quinn.
[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Right. Yeah. You'd have to talk to our our producer friends over at Big Brother again.
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I am you could do it. I I could not do that.
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_06]: No, because first of all, even if I did want to do that, it's not something that I have no control over what goes on the air.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I am merely a technology liaison. Yes.
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And I have nothing to do with the actual gameplay.
[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't write the the bits, although I have offered some suggestions that, you know, obviously I am not a writer on Big Brother for a reason.
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_06]: The stuff that they're coming up with is far beyond anything that I could have ever thought of.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_06]: But no, I mean, I think they're coming up with some very, very clever concepts.
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. And I love that they're showing off the technology in a way I like.
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I like that they I like that they're using our helix. Yes. Statue. I like that.
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I like that because it's very volumetric. It makes it look very it looks very sophisticated in the house.
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I like that there's a cartoon kind of an animation of Ainsley.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I like that the real people are are making their way into the house.
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Even even Matt made his way back into the house. That was my favorite.
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_08]: So then, David, so what are you hoping happens because of Proto's involvement with Big Brother?
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Are you hoping that this just raises awareness of what's possible or are you hoping that people ultimately would you like to see everybody has sort of like this type of setup at their house?
[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_06]: So two two things. I it's more of a vanity for me.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just a big fan of the show. And so I was pretty aggressive about wanting to get our technology on the show and very grateful and honored that they chose to put the technology on their show.
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So for me, that's all all I've ever all I've ever wanted. But aside from Big Brother, that's not my my business is not reality television.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_06]: My my business is not putting technology on television shows. We're like a legitimate enterprise and retail.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Like we're we're replacing a lot of flat 2D screens in malls and airports and casinos with volumetric holographic displays.
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_06]: We are going to some people's houses, but mostly being used in large company innovation centers, airports.
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we're in 50 universities. Rob Sestronino, did you know we're in 50 universities beaming teachers into give lectures from around the world?
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_06]: So this is really it's a it's you know, this is this is podcasting in 20 years, in 10 years from now.
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_08]: This is instead of talking into a microphone and hearing your voice come out on a speaker or instead of looking at me into their house to be doing this, this this old I disagree.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I disagree with the matrix. Right. I think that taught us. I think that I think that was a glimpse into the future.
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_06]: How can we get very realistic, lifelike projections of our loved ones, teachers, entertainers, music, whoever, podcasters and personalities into our homes?
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I can see a future where you're beaming onto onto coffee tables all over the world.
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. David, I don't know how tapped in you are on the live feeds, but there were some stories about what happened, what was going on in the matrix that I don't even know that I'll tell you offline.
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, really? Oh, no. Oh, no.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. Really? This guy, Joseph, piece of work. Something else.
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure he is. I don't know anything about that.
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_08]: OK, OK. Good. So in some ways it was an incredible endorsement.
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, good. Well, that's good. So is that because it's so real, so realistic?
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. Yes.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_08]: So then that I feel like we're recording this on Thursday. I'm feeling like, OK, we're sort of like maybe reaching a point where we've seen everything that there is to have happened on BB 26 with hologram and the Ainsley technology. Is that maybe not the case?
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I would say expect the unexpected. I think it's probably the best way to put it. I certainly couldn't talk about anything that may or may not be happening in the future. But I know there's the protos in the house. So they should use it for something.
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_08]: David, do you think that they will continue to use the proto in future seasons beyond this AI themed season?
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I would hope so. You know, Zingbot comes back once a year and I think they like to bring back. I mean, I would love it if they did. But but I also get that this is a bit of a theme and not sure that it makes sense for future seasons. But I would love it. I would. I would absolutely love it.
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I feel like that they've done so much in the past on Big Brother where like former house guests come in and like host a competition. And this seems like a great way to be able to facilitate this without there being like a ton of maybe like, oh, I'm worried that, oh, if we if we bring back so and so from last season, they're going to accidentally slip up and say something that they shouldn't.
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, wouldn't you think that they could use this for more things even?
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, the way they're using it is perfect, although.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_06]: So naturally. So, yes. So they're doing it. They are. They're doing everything perfectly. However, outside of Big Brother, it can be used to beam people anywhere, anytime. Yes. Right. So anybody can beam anywhere. It could be a former. It could be, you know, so outside of the Big Brother house, proto technology is being used to beam people all over the world live.
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_06]: OK. And the camera that's above the person beaming in, you know, I'll do I'll put Howie here for now. So the person who's beaming in.
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Howie.
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_06]: So the person who's beaming in can see and hear and interact with their global audience in real time.
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So Street Howie, look at that. Look at him.
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Oh, he's you know, this is how he shows up because he's here. He's actually here right now. But he shows up. He's very comfortable.
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_06]: He'd like he wears. Here, look, here's the look at this one. Look at this version of him. You think that Street Howie? Look at this guy.
[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_06]: That outfit. Wow. Yeah.
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_08]: That's what he does to your office and that's what he is.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I met Howie on the Internet a little over two years ago. We met on Instagram.
[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_06]: So to a little over two years ago is the end of a very long day at Proto where I my old office and I go on Instagram.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I just start scrolling through my my my feed and I'm looking at all my God, look at all the comments I'm having.
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, wait, why is every comment from Howie Mandel?
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. So one of the comments has check your DMs and in the DMs was his phone number says, call me.
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_06]: You have some pretty incredible technology. And so I called him. I came over here.
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_06]: This place was just an empty warehouse. He has this production building in Van Nuys.
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And I came over here and I we we became friends. I moved in.
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_06]: He's invested in the company and he's become a great kind of creative advisor.
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's wonderful. He introduced us to Kris Jenner and Kimmel.
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, a lot we've gotten a lot of work because of him.
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, this hat I'm in his he owns this building and I'm he is my he is my landlord.
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Right. So, I mean, they could use this on Donde on Deal or No Deal Island.
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_06]: He pitched it. He did not want to go to he did not, you know, he did not want to go to Panama.
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. So we we they got him.
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Just beam me there. Yeah, they got they got him there.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_06]: But anyway, so the camera that's above his head, this camera right here sees the audience is being beamed in front of.
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_06]: So he's having a bit of a zoom on his side.
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_06]: He's basically doing what we're doing. Yeah.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Except on the receiving side, you see him like he's actually.
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_08]: So if you're going to like beam somebody in live, do they need to be standing in front of like is it like any sort of like special camera or do they need to like be at your office?
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_06]: No, they could be anywhere.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_06]: You could use an iPhone or any 4K camera captures the person and it sends the feed to a regular phone.
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Any any camera, any phone. Yeah.
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_06]: For a you know, an iPhone 13 or better works really well and any camera so I can beam you or anybody anywhere.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, it's great. And they're not using they haven't used this on Big Brother, but you can also change the language.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So you can be speaking English here, but in the Big Brother house, it can change the words that you're saying from English into Italian or Japanese.
[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's and it's your voice. It's really why like my I have an AI.
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I have one of me, you know what? I have one of me speaks 140 languages.
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_06]: It's crazy. Yeah. Here's my AI.
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll just put it on in the background. Are you wearing? Let's see.
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's see what I'm wearing in my in my AI. Let's see here.
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. So loading. OK. Oh, there I am.
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm wearing the same I'm wearing the same T-shirt. That's me.
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And what language are you speaking?
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I will I speak English when you speak English to me. But if you spoke French to me, I respond in French.
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow. Great. And I and I know every question.
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I know every answer. And and it's got a lot of information like it.
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_06]: It's me like it's it's got my my information.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_06]: So you can ask me about my where did you meet your wife?
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Tell me about your, you know, your your work.
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Like really literally it's it answers it as as if it's me.
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_08]: So there's an artificial intelligence also element to this.
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. So this is for real.
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I like what they're using on Big Brother is obviously not real.
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_06]: It's it's BB. Oh, come on.
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_06]: It's BB. Although there is there is a bit of a I mean, the AI that they're using is it's you know, we've scanned the people.
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's not really like communicating. Ainsley is not communicating.
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_06]: It's it's BB AI. It's it's all very, very regulated through the producers.
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's quite fascinating how they how they're using it.
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_06]: But no, my AI like it's it's very open.
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Like there's no I've opened it up so you don't know what I'm going to say.
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_06]: It's really, really wild stuff.
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Can you have you could have a conversation with yourself?
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I can have a conversation with myself. Yes.
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_06]: You can ask you. I don't even have to be here.
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_06]: You can ask my AI any question and we'll see how it answers it.
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's you know, do you want to do that or?
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. Well, I got to think what to ask him.
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't want to ask him like I'll take my what's going to happen next on Big Brother.
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_06]: He won't know that. But he's not like he's not like a yeah.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_08]: All right. I got a question for for how do I address your your hologram?
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. Hold on. That.
[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Nuzzy is taking off his headphones.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. Here he is. It's very lifelike.
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. Here he is.
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. But you're that I can't hear you anymore.
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I've made myself two inches taller and 10 pounds lighter because, you know,
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_06]: you can when you're a hologram. Yes. All right.
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_06]: All right. So you want to ask me a question? Okay.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_06]: All right. Wait. Oh, wait. You know what?
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I got to turn the volume up on this thing. Okay. All right.
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_08]: This is rather incredible.
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. I'm in the technology realm and his remarkable achievements.
[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's delve into the world of proto hologram and the captivating stories behind
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_05]: this innovative endeavors. Yes.
[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_08]: David, can you tell me how the proto hologram could be used on Survivor?
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Certainly bringing proto hologram technology to a show like Survivor could
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_05]: revolutionize the viewing experience.
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Imagine contestants beamed in live from their remote locations to discuss
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_05]: challenges, strategies, and tribal councils in real time.
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_05]: This immersive integration could enhance audience engagement and truly transport
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_05]: viewers into the heart of the competition.
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_05]: The possibilities are endless with holographic communications.
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_08]: It's pretty good.
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_08]: David, can a hologram watch my kids so I can do other stuff?
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Technology in various contexts always sparks excitement.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_05]: If you have more questions or want to uncover more about proto hologram,
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_05]: feel free to ask.
[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_08]: He's not as good as the real David.
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Can he watch your children?
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I use a proto hologram of myself to watch my children.
[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. That's a very good question. Let's find out what he has to say.
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_05]: It's essential to make sure the kiddos are well taken care of.
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_05]: While David Nussbaum is a visionary leader in holographic technology,
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: he is a dedicated family man who enjoys spending quality time with his
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_05]: children, fostering creativity and sharing joyful moments with them.
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Their family dynamics are filled with laughter, love, and a sprinkle of magic
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_05]: from the holographic world David immerses himself in.
[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, David, tell me as much as you know about Rob Sesternino from Survivor.
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Keep it cute.
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Rob Sesternino, a legendary Survivor contestant turned podcasting dynamo,
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_05]: has left an indelible mark on reality TV fandom.
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Rob's strategic gameplay and witty commentary on his podcast,
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Rob Has a Podcast, have garnered a devoted following across the Survivor community.
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_05]: His insightful analyses, engaging interviews and infectious enthusiasm
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_05]: showcase his enduring passion for the game and the world of entertainment.
[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Now tell me, uh, tell me your favorite,
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_06]: tell me your favorite moment in Survivor, but tell it to me in Japanese.
[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_04]: My favorite moment in Survivor is when the players work together
[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_04]: to take on a grand challenge. It's a show that overcomes difficulties
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_04]: and deepens the game. It's a wonderful show where the teamwork of Survivor players
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: shines bright.
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_08]: What did he say when Banu said that he was going to get a million hearts?
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Isn't that something?
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_08]: That was amazing. That was really amazing. Incredible.
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. How did you ultimately get, uh,
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_08]: get going in this business? Because I, that, you know, as somebody who has,
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_08]: uh, been connected with you for all these years on Facebook, I see like all
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_08]: these, uh, different things that you've done and like all these news shows
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_08]: that you appear on. But how did you, uh, go from a guy
[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_08]: who was a podcaster to working, uh,
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_08]: in this emerging technology?
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you know, I was a, before I was a podcaster,
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I used to work for some traditional, uh, terrestrial radio stations,
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_06]: CBS broadcasting and a number of other independent radio stations.
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I always wanted to be a radio guy. I always wanted to be on the air.
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, but every radio station that I applied for a job at,
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_06]: they stuck me in the sales department, you know? I mean,
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_06]: so when I discovered podcasting in like 2007, 2008,
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_06]: and I started my first podcast, um,
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I got to take control over my life.
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I, this is all I ever wanted to do is broadcast, uh, on my podcast,
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_06]: uh, decently funny, which doesn't exist any longer.
[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_06]: My podcasts, I, I interviewed you. I interviewed a bunch of radio,
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_06]: uh, you know, uh, uh, celebrities and, and reality stars.
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I met my wife on my old podcast cause she was on a show and I was a guest
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_06]: and I was a fan of hers. But also on my podcast,
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I met a guy who knew of some random,
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_06]: rarely used, uh,
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_06]: patents that were later famously used to put Tupac on stage at Coachella.
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. And so I developed,
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I co-founded an entertainment company in 2011 that,
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_06]: um, brought dead people back to posthumously perform.
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And so for like five or six years we were just acquiring all of these rights of
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_06]: all of these late legends. Uh, and,
[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_06]: and one by one we were bringing them back to life so they could perform in front
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_06]: of, it was just bananas.
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Like some of the people that we were acquiring rights to that was acquiring
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_06]: the rights were, was more fun than actually bringing them back to life.
[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_06]: That was the hard part. Why? Why, why was that?
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, uh,
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Why was acquiring the rights the fun part?
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, because I got to, cause that was sort of the dreaming part.
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a dreamer. I like to dream. Like I like to,
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a what if guy, like what if we did this? What if we did,
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_06]: like when you physically do it, then that's doing it.
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I like the idea of something. And so like, you know,
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_06]: creating a, a company that didn't exist and then not just a company that didn't
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_06]: exist, but like a brand new industry.
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Like we're going to bring people back to life and we're gonna like,
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_06]: nobody had ever done that before.
[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And so reaching out to Michael Kaufman,
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Andy Kaufman's brother, uh,
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_06]: and say I would love to bring back Andy Kaufman and wouldn't it be great if we
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_06]: did something like a, you know, or red Fox.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I worked with the red Fox estate and I worked with the Whitney Houston estate
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_06]: and I worked with like all these people.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's so great because you're in charge now of expanding beyond where their
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_06]: life finished and where their legacy may continue.
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Tupac at Coachella is a perfect example of that. Most,
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_06]: most people know of the Tupac. Like when you say,
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_06]: have you ever seen a Tupac performance?
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of people that I ask refer to the Tupac hologram at Coachella,
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_06]: which Tupac actually never did. He was, he was,
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_06]: he was gone 10 years when that, uh, when that performance happened.
[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_06]: So, oh wait, so, so long story short at this point as a, as a,
[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_06]: as a passionate lover of broadcasting and yet still now I know how to do
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_06]: holograms. I thought, what if instead of bringing back the dead,
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I used my, my holographic technology to connect the living.
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I started Proto in my living room in 2018. Um,
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_06]: and I just wanted to beam people places that was for me,
[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_06]: it was just instead of talking into a microphone and hearing your voice come
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_06]: out of a speaker, I thought, what if I, what if I broadcast it Rob somewhere?
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what if I could literally beam you,
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_06]: beam your presence instead of just your voice or your face?
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_08]: So that's so interesting. So, okay. So,
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_08]: so 2018 you're developing a technology to connect people around the world.
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. Uh, little do you know,
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_08]: a global pandemic is around the corner.
[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_08]: How did COVID ultimately change the future of your business?
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, it, uh, I had several million dollars in, in,
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_06]: in a business canceled, right? Because we, I had a,
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I had a lot of business piled up that was going to happen. Um,
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_06]: in 2020 a lot of inventions, a lot of trade shows, a lot of live events.
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And as we all know that entire business globally went away.
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And I said, Oh, um,
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I am going to lose my business and I was all in, I was going to lose my,
[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean my, my whole livelihood was just tied up in this.
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, so I raised money. I did, I did what entrepreneurs do.
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I raised a bunch of money.
[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I took my idea and I went on a road show of,
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_06]: of, uh, fundraising, um, uh, uh,
[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_06]: equity in my company in exchange for millions of dollars. And my,
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_06]: uh, and I had, I had, and I started raising money. So, um,
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I raised about $3 million, uh, as my, as my seed round,
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_06]: uh, Tim Draper, who's famously invested in SpaceX and Tesla.
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like a big kind of communications and hardware machine guy. Uh,
[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_06]: he's really into future technology. And I beamed him, I,
[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I beamed him from one side of the room to the other.
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And he saw himself for the first time in a way that, you know,
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_06]: you see yourself in a mirror and sometimes you see yourself like in a screen
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_06]: on zoom and, but he saw himself like it was his digital doppelganger
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_06]: staring back at him from the other side of the room. And he said, all right,
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to send you a term sheet. So I started raising money.
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_06]: So I took the time off from actually like doing work and like business and like
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_06]: setting up our technology in places to do things. And I just, I,
[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I started raising money. Now we've raised, we've raised some money. We've,
[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_06]: we've raised a bunch of money since then.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And we also have generated revenue beyond the amount that we've raised.
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Uh, it's really incredible. Uh, David, my,
[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_08]: my last question for you is that how do P how do you think people's lives are
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_08]: going to be different five years, 10 years down the road,
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_08]: because of this technology that they may not even realize yet today.
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_06]: It really depends on the person. Uh, I can talk, uh, you know,
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_06]: one of the reasons why I started this is cause I've got older parents.
[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_06]: My parents are both in their eighties. They live in New Jersey.
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I have three kids under 10 at the time when I started Proto, I had two, I had two,
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I had a four and a five year old daughter.
[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And I thought in Los Angeles and we were communicating on our phones and on
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_06]: zoom and my four year olds, like, I don't get what, is that a person in there?
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Like how do I fall in love with this person? Like it's so I thought,
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_06]: wouldn't it be cool if we could beam into each other's homes.
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's where I think we're going to be in, in five years from now, uh,
[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_06]: companies like AARP are investing in Proto because they think Proto
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_06]: technology and senior living facilities and in retirement communities,
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_06]: this is a way of keeping people alive longer and combating by combating
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_06]: loneliness. It's, it's kind of sad what happens to people of a certain age.
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes we forget about them. We put them in like, and so now with AI,
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_06]: they always have a companion, uh,
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_06]: or by beaming people in live little Timmy, right. Or,
[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_06]: or even therapists and doctors,
[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_06]: you no longer need to only have the doctors and the specialists in your area.
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_06]: You could beam in the greatest minds from around the world into wherever you
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_06]: are, even to some of the most rural locations. So I think it's,
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it just kind of flattens the earth a little bit.
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it makes it easier to communicate. Uh,
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_06]: and eventually I think Proto technology in a, in a matrix size, uh,
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_06]: we'll find their ways onto our kitchen counters as a kind of a smart home
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_06]: device. Yeah. Amazing. Helping you through your life.
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_08]: But I think of poor Joseph who was all alone for 24 hours and then, uh,
[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Matt got beamed in to keep him company. Yeah.
[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Have you spoken to Matt about this? Are you? No,
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I have not spoken to Matt about it,
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_08]: but I had seen on his Tik TOK that he didn't even know that it was happening.
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_06]: He was as surprised as anybody. Oh, is that right? Okay. That's interesting.
[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Anything else that you want people to know about all this?
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_06]: That, uh, I am excited for the future. I'm a, I'm a,
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a huge lover of technology, you know, as a kid,
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_06]: big fan of all the science fiction TV shows and movies, even as an adult.
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I loved watching Silicon Valley, you know, and,
[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_06]: and all these really wild, you know, black mirror.
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_06]: So the things that we're seeing in TV and movies, uh, someone,
[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_06]: why not me? You know, would,
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I'd like to kind of bring this into not just being something that you see on TV.
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I'd like this to be something that actually helps us and, uh,
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and benefits our life in a, in a realistic way. Okay. Um,
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_08]: seems like, uh, it's definitely going in that direction, David, uh,
[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_08]: where could people check out more about what you're doing over at Proto? Uh,
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_06]: at Proto hologram on everything.
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's on all the social medias. And, uh,
[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I do Tik TOK lives two or three times a week. I try to, I try to, uh,
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_06]: engage quite often. Um, I, uh, yesterday I did a Tik TOK live,
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_06]: and I just talked to myself for an hour and I opened it up to the audience.
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Does it ask me anything? AMA? And, uh, you know,
[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_06]: some of the questions were not pretty rude people out there,
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_06]: but my AI will answer all questions in the most sophisticated way possible.
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_08]: All right. Well, David, thank you so much for taking some time to talk to us.
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_08]: It's been very fun to see what you've been up to here on Big Brother and
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_08]: congratulations on all your success. Uh,
[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_08]: you've done accomplished so much in in between podcast appearances.
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, Rob. I'm proud of you as well, because I, you know,
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_06]: you and I, we kind of started out together in podcasting and, uh,
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_06]: and so you've got to be, how long are you doing this? Like 12, 13, 15,
[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_06]: you do probably 15 years now, right? Yeah. I mean,
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_08]: 15 years since I started up the podcast and 14 years of starting Rob as a
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_08]: podcast. So yeah, but, uh, uh, you know, day by day,
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_08]: but look, I'm not changing the world.
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, no, you kind of are though, because, uh,
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_06]: this is how many people have been inspired by you that maybe they've gone on
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_06]: and started a podcast and maybe their podcast is about healthcare or maybe
[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_06]: so. I don't know about that.
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I think a lot of people like Fairplay was inspired by your gameplay, um,
[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_06]: on survivor,
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_06]: but I think that people are also inspired by what you do on Rob has a pod.
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, thank you so much. I appreciate that. Uh, all right, everybody,
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_08]: thank you so much for joining us. Uh,
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_08]: this was super fun to check out what David is up to again. Uh, it really,
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_08]: amazing. Uh, my, my mind is blown. And so, uh,
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't wait to see where this all goes next.
[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you so much for joining us. Of course,
[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_08]: we've got coverage of a AI or do you have anything to do with the AI arena?
[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I have nothing to do. So the, uh, I mean, we have a,
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_06]: we have a proto display at the AI arena, right? Yeah.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_06]: So they have a couple of, they have a couple of our, of our units there. So,
[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_06]: other than just present providing this incredible beautiful, yeah.
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_06]: This, this technology and emotional support. Um, uh, they say, Hey,
[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_06]: can we do this? I go, yes, we can do this. So that's, that's,
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_06]: that's how I provide assistance. I say, yes, we can do this.
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I say to my amazing engineers, I go, how do we do this?
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And then they figure it out.
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_08]: All right. Thank you so much for joining us to care. Everybody have a good one.
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Bye.